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the people of scotland have spoken, and it is a clear result. they have kept our country of four nations together. and like millions of other people, i am delighted. >> that was the british prime minister speaking just a short while ago after scotland rejected independence from the united ngdom. hello, i'm christiane amanpour from scotland. it may be just 8:00 in the morning here, but it's not too early for those who support the re referendum. at this point, the no campaign
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won 55% of the vote. 45% voted in favor of independence. and that is a significantly wider margin of victory than most opinion polls had predicted. most forecast a very high turnout for the referendum. and scottish voters delivered. more than 6.3 million people cast ballots. that puts turnout at 84.6%. scotland had lowered the voting age from 18 to 16 so young people could vote on the referendum. let's take a listen to the british prime minister david cameron who spoke just a short time ago from 10 downing street. >> i am a passionate believer in our united kingdom. and i wanted more than anything for our united kingdom to stay together. but i'm also a democrat. and it was right that we respected the snp's majority and gave the people the right to have their say.
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let us also remember why it was right to ask the definitive question, yes or no. because now the debate has been settled for a generation. or, as alex salmond has said, perhaps for a lifetime. so there can be no disputes. no reruns. we have heard the settled will of the scottish people. scotland voted for a stronger scottish parliament, backed by the strength and security of the united king dom. and i want to congratulate the no campaign for that, for showing that our nations really are better together. i also want to pay tribute to yes scotland for a well fought campaign and to say to those who voted for independence, we hear you. we now have a chance, a great opportunity, to change the way that british people are governed and change it for the better. political leaders on all sides of the debate now bear a heavy
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responsibility to come together and work constructively, to advance the interests of people in scotland as well as those in england, wales and northern ireland for each and every citizen of our united kingdom. to those in scotland skeptical of the constitutional promises that were made, let me say this. we have delivered on devolution under this government, and we will do so again in the next parl lachlt. the three pro-union parties have made commitments, clear commitments on further powers for the scottish parliament. we will ensure that those commitments are honored in full. >> so david cameron telling the people of scotland, we hear you. change is coming. also telling the people of scotland that this referendum has settled this issue for a generation. now a short time before he spoke, scotland's first minister, alex salmond who led
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the yes campaign and despite his disappointment in the result tried to stay positive about the future and said the independence referendum may be settled for now, but it is still open for the future. >> so friends, sometimes it's best to reflect where we are on on a journey. 45%, 1.6 million of our fellow citizens voting for independence. i don't think that any of us, whenever we thought of politics, would have thought such a thing to be either credible or possible. i think over the last few weeks that we have seen a scare of enormous proportions. not the scare of the scottish people, but the fear of the westminster establishment as they realized the mass move of
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people going on in scotland. [ applause ] >> and therefore, today of all days, as we bring scotland together, let us not dwell on the distance we have fallen short. let us dwell on the distance we have traveled and have confidence that the movement is abroad in scotland that will take this nation forward, and we will go forward as one nation. >> so, as the leaders of both sides have declared now, have made their speeches in public, the actual final, final count, officially, is still to come in. and max foster is at the central vote counting center right here in edinburgh. max? >> reporter: this says so much about this whole process. it's been handled impeccably, every level here in scotland.
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we know the result, you know, salmond has conceded. and even the prime minister's come out and made his statement, but yet the process continues here. there's one more count to come in, and it will be announced here, and then the overall result will be announced officially. but it's a formality really. what you've seen here is a two-year campaign ending up in this vote, which, to salmond's credit does show 45% support for independence, and he's now taking that journey as he calls it, forward. he's championing devolution. i think the story moves firmly to london, because what you've got now is discussion about devolution in england and in wales. and you've got senior ministers talking today about this untenable situation we have scottish members of parliament voting on english laws. so within england now they have to resolve the same sort of debate, how they find their own
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balance of power in england, the same in wales and northern ireland. one thing for sure happened overnight, on the face of it, alex salmond lost this, but london got a little bit weaker through this process. because the power from lon ton is going to move out to the rest of the nations now, i think. >> you're absolutely right. one thing is absolutely for sure, and that is that nothing will be the same again in this united kingdom. a lot of work to be done to figure out how that's all going to fall out and how it's going to work if terms of governing going forward. but right now let's go to glasgow. we've reaction from scotland's largest city. of course glasgow did vote yes. nick robertson is there. >> reporter: christiane, it's sort of the cleaning up after the party. the hangover beginning for some of the yes campaigners who kind of thronged to this square overnight. i was talking to them as they were leaving.
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they were deeply disappointed. there were some young campaigners, and you could really sense their frustration. they really believed that the yes campaign, the independence campaign had an opportunity to win. these were the young people among whom so many in this country supported independence. and these were people who've been out on the doorsteps, knocking on doors, trying to convince people sitting on the fence to jump to the yes side and trying to convince the people in the no camp to swing their vote over to the yes. they told me that they, they're d diggs illusioned by the process, dissolutioned by the people of scotland. they feel this is going to lead to a disengagement in the political process for many young people who saw this as an opportunity who walk away from it feeling they didn't get what they wanted. and others i talked to here taking a more pragmatic view, saying they want to take up the
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differences with the no supporters, they work side by side with them. they're in their own families, a real sense that this is a time to move on. but skepticism from everyone here. the yes camp really very skeptical about westminster, the politicians there. skeptical about david cameron and the other politicians keeping good on their promises of devo max. and of course alex salmond has spoken on that, saying he will hold them accountable on the promise that there will be greater powers over taxation, over welfare, over the economy. so the sense, i think, from the yes camp in glasgow, of course, a resounding yes vote from here and a dwindling yes camp behind me as the people come into the city to go to work. the sense that it's time to move forward, but i don't think that their skepticism about the ability of politicians in
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london, to look after scotland, i don't think that has changed at the moment, so far, christiane. >> nick, thank you very much. it's important to point out that no matter what the result was, the people of scotland have forced change. and despite the skepticism of some ranks, the prime minister made very clear timetables saying that on november they'll have a plan and by january there would be legislation presented. he said he's delighted with scotland's vote. and after the break we'll take you live to downing street for the very latest. stay with us. does your carpet ever feel rough and dirty? ugh. don't avoid it. resolve it. our new formula not only cleans and freshens but also softens your carpet so it's always inviting. resolve. a carpet that welcomes you.
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welcome back to edinburgh here. the scots have woken up on a fairly cloudy and damp moment to know that this is still the united kingdom. the scottish voters have
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rejected the idea of leaving, and they have rejected the idea of independence. the formal announcement of the final results is yet to come. but the no campaign ended with 55% of the vote and 45% for the yes. turnout was very high, about 85% nationwide. the formal vote is yet to come, because there's still some very far-flung areas of this northern part of the united kingdom that have yet to formally send their ballots back to be counted. but we're checking in with airline b errol barnett, and he's breaking down the numbers. >> people will be waking up to the news. we had this momentum last week. it seemed as if the yes campaign could pull out a win. it didn't happen. now you mentioned those fantastic turnout numbers. you see them next to me, 84%. this is really enviable in any
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poll, referendum or election. not enough votes to be counted to change this. but it seems as though the areas in which the yes campaign was popular and was expected to win, and they did so, but not in big enough numbers. let's show you the largest city in scotland, as we get to glasgow, 486,000 registered voters, but as you see next to me, the no votes were behind the yes campaign, winning by 24,000 votes. remember that number. 24,000 votes in grass goe that brought the yes campaign ahead. but when you go to edinburgh, it was the nos that won by 70,000 votes. i'll show you aberdeen, when those numbers were tallied, they came in, once again, the no vote ahead here by some 24,000 votes. so right there as i break down the biggest cities in the country, the yeses were ahead in
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glasgow by some 24,000 votes, but once we got the numbers from edinburgh and aberdeen, the numbers were impossible. let's show you dundee. it gave enthusiasm that perhaps the yes vote would win. dundee, roughly 120,000 votes cast. yes was only ahead by 14,000 votes. it just wasn't enough. we're still waiting, though, for them to give us the official numbers. they're still waiting to count, one by one, the votes here in highland. as christiane said, kind of a far-flung place. some of the votes brought in by boat. but that's what it's really about. some of the people wanting to remain a part of the united kingdom, but 45% voting to separate. but not enough. this was a vote no for independence, but a yes vote for
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something else. those who were pushing for this independence, what was it, how did this lead in the last week evaporate to where we have these numbers. were people convinced by this vow by prime minister david cameron, the more right would be provided. possibly so, but these numbers as we see it now, no to independence, but possibly a yes to something new. christiane? >> well, errol, absolutely. and from here in edinburgh, in front of this historic edinburgh castle there is no doubt that something new is on the horizon. prime minister david cal ron said we hear you. we hear you on those who wanted to stay with the united kingdom and for those who voted for independence. becky is live outside 10 downing street and she joins us with more on what the prime minister had to say. >> reporter: it was about an hour ago that the prime minister
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came out. but he looked relieved. he spoke about the united kingdom, all four nations. he said that he was a passionate believer in the union, but he was also a democrat. and he said it was the right thing to do to give scots the chance to vote on independence. joining me now is our political commentator, robin oakley. was he right, robin, to give the scots a chance at the end of the day? >> i don't think he really had any option, becky. the scottish national party had won an election in scotland which gave them a mandate for referendum. as david cameron said this morning, he could have tried to block that, but he's a democrat, and he realized they had the right to have that referendum, whether he set the right terms for the referendum is a question that will go on. many if his party criticize him for not setting a threshold. they criticized him for letting
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16-year-olds vote. they criticized him for allowing momentum to built up for the separatists. >> what an exercise in democracy it was. there were certain areas of scotland where over 90% of people got out and voted. 16 to 17 year olds enfranchised for the first time. the no campaign or better together campaign had a lied of something like 22 points until towards the end, and it narrowed so much. what happened and why? >> i think that took david cameron and many other lit cal leaders completely by surprise. they call him the essay prize prime minister. several things did change. firstly, the no campaign woke up to the need to really start showing the kind of passion that alex salmond had shown on his side of the argument. and the key was labor and snp. they are the two political
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powers in scotland. a lot of laborers have been drifting across to the separatist cause. and it was the former prime minister who was ousted by david cameron, ironically, who was the man who did more than anybody to turn that, to mobilize labor voters to come, to say it is not a disgraceful or anti-scottish thing to do to vote for better together. >> christiane and i have been talking this morning about the narrowing of this vote and what happened at the end. and we gt a 45% to 55% in favor of staying with the union. i wonder if you would agree that those who were undecided -- and there were an awful lot of people undecided going into this, but in the end veered on the side of caution. a lot of people would say this is independence in all but name without the mucky stuff, as it were. >> i think one of the things here is that a lot of people who were calling themselves undecided, they were actually undeclared. but they were going to vote no.
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but they didn't want to say so, because it might look un-scottish. didn't want to be derided by their neighbors for doing so. >> very quickly, what happens next? >> what happens next is david cameron's got to start delivering on his promises. and what's got to do is get the agreement from the other westminster parties to the things he's been outlining this morning. better powers for nps and not only in scotland but greater devolution to the english regions, to northern ireland and to wales. and whether he's going to get the agreement of the other parties on that, and if gordon brown for example who will be a key figure in the negotiations, we'll have to see. >> thank you. you've got your way, as it were. scots now give the english, the welsh and the northern irish to do the same. one thing is clear, the way the united kingdom is run going forward will change. how long it takes to flesh out the details of what that change is, what the process will be,
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what direction we will be going in, well, that will take some days, weeks and months to come. but certainly, a momentous occasion here today in the united kingdom. >> absolutely, becky. thank you. and thanks to robin as well. a really major political earthquake for the whole of the u.k. the prospect of an independent scotland had given some business leaders pause. so what's the reaction right now in the global marketplace? we'll have a live report just ahead. every day, people fall. from a simple misstep, to tripping over a rug, to just losing their balance. and not being able to get up from a fall can have serious, lifetime consequences. being prepared is important. philips lifeline with autoalert is more than just a medical alert button. it's an advanced fall detection system designed to get you help quickly. if you fall and you're unable to push your button, the fall detection technology within autoalert can trigger the button to automatically place a call for help.
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darling declaring victory. how are investors taking the news that the united kingdom will remain in tact? jim? >> reporter: yes, christiane, certainly there is palpable relief on the trading floors of lop done. because markets hate uncertainty. we're 20 minutes into the tragd day. the london ftsi started up about 7%. now it's up about a half percent. i think the markets have factored in a no. the banks have had exposure to scotland. they're really jumping. they would have had to move some of their operations south it would have cost them money if there had been an independence vote. we've also seen sterling, the u.k. british pound rising. but it has been rising over the
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last few days. they've been pricing in the fact it was going to be a no vote. so sterling had started to rise again the last few days. sterling fell heavily against the u.s. dollar when it looked like yes was gaining ground. so the markets only started noticing this about a week ago. so there had been a lot of uncertainty, but today a lot of relief. >> jim boulden, thank you. when we come back after a break we're going back to glasgow, live. and remember, glasgow voted yes. our special coverage continues. so stay with us. don't avoid it. resolve it. our new formula not only cleans and freshens but also softens your carpet so it's always inviting. resolve. a carpet that welcomes you. hello! three grams daily of beta-glucan... a soluable fiber
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i'm christiane amanpour in edinburgh, and we want to welcome back our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm in front of the historic edinburgh castle. it is a bit of a foggy and cool and wet day as the united kingdom wakes up to the results of the referendum. the united kingdom remains united. and david cameron promising a new plan. alex salmond says he accepts the will of the scottish people. no prevails, 55% over 45%. and with a voter turnout of well over 80%, it's clear that the
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scottish people have spoken. david cameron says he's willing to work with those who fought for independence to change for better. >> it is absolutely right that a new and fair settlement for scotland should be accompanied by a new and fair settlement at that applies to all parts of our united kingdom. in wales, there are proposals to give the welsh government and assembly more powers, and i want wales to be at the heart of the debate on how to make our united kingdom work for all our nations. in northern ireland, we must work to ensure that institutions function effectively. but i've long believed that a crucial part missing from this discussion is england. we've heard the voice of scotland. and now the millions of voices of england must also be heard. >> so massive change is coming. and on the other sued of the vote, scotland's first minister,
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alex salmond who led the independence drive, of course, praised the huge turnout and encouraged everyone to support the results. >> i think the process by which we have made our decision as a nation reflects enormous credit upon scotland. a turnout of 86% is one of the highest the democratic wold for any referendum or election in history. this has been a triumph for the democratic process and participation in politics. [ applause ] >> so we're going to join nick robertson now in glasgow. glasgow is one of the big urban centers that voted yes. and it is also where the better together campaign leader gave his speech declaring victory.
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what was the reason for doing that in glasgow who voted yes? >> reporter: i think there's a real sense amongst politicians here that it's time to bridge, it is the time to bridge the differences and gaps that have opened up. the debate has been a heated debate in the recent few days, real accusations flying between both sides, the yes campaign accusing the better together, the no campaign, of scaremonger tactics. the no campaign saying that the yes campaign wasn't answering the questions fully about what to expect on currency. so many important issues. so it had become a divisive debate and heated debate in the past few days, and i think there's a real sense from the leading politicians now and alastair darling to say we must move forward together. and there was an element of that
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in his speech and people in glasgow will be looking back. glasgow voted most overwhelmingly for the yes vote. 75% turnout, slightly lower than the average across scotland. but people i talked to here today say that they also want to move forward, want to get on together, and they're going to look to their politicians to take that lied, to make that lead and to do it in more than words. david cameron saying that we must work together, that he will work with the people of scotland. we've heard alex salmond, as well, saying he will work in the spirit of trying to bring these increased powers to scotland, that this was, the people of scotland have spoken and we've heard their voices. i believe in part alastair darling has chosen to speak from glasgow because it is symbolically important, really, the people are going to look
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historically back at this and look at glasgow and say yes, that really was the heart and the strongest voice for yes, christiane. >> nick, thank you very much. and we're going to drill down a little bit on this idea of reconciliation and healing the divide and going forward, joining me now from our london studio is nicolas comfort. he's the author of the book "how to handle the media." first and foremost, what is it about the media that you think played into this referendum and the results? >> well, i think in form of the scottish press, what you saw was the polarization of yes and no, between the papers who have traditionally been expected to take those lines. and i don't think it was any gait surprise. the thing i think which was critical and what we're hearing from the yes campaign is that they don't think they had a fair shake from the bbc, on the other hand i think they were trying to
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say that before the campaign started. so it's really no great surprise. i think you will see a pulling together, a determination to hold westminster to account. and then getting on to the next parliamentary elections. >> let me ask you about this idea ever the post result hangover. the divisions were quite intense. there was very fierce campaigning, obviously peaceful, nothing like stuff we've seen around the world. and this was a legal and incredibly engaged referendum and an incredibly engaged vote, but there were very hard feelings and divisions even within families. are those going to be knitted together to go forward, do you think? >> well, there is a great sense of history in scotland. a lofrt the campaign was about what happened 307 years ago with the active union, the battle of bannock burn whose anniversary is close. and a lot of this will go into
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scottish mythology. on the other hand people in scotland are very good at living with each other. it need the a a parliament. it got a parliament and there will be an odd person that nurses grudges, but i think we're going to see a lot of sensible discussion, and i think that will override the more deep-running feelings. >> and what about the idea of these promises? alex salmond has delivered his concession speech. he's going to have a press conference, but he really should be declaring victory, shouldn't he? because he's really forced this issue of maximum change. >> he has. 20 years ago, there was a poll in the scotsman showing that 30% of scots wanted independence. most people thought that was a freak result. he has delivered 45% and delivered it in a way that has
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created momentum. i think if you asked him two years ago what he wanted, he would have said he wanted a close enough result to force something out of westminster. he got moist st of those concess before the votes were in. he has gotten more than he ever expected. >> and just one last question. what about the promises that have been made by the prime minister? how, we can't say easy, because this is a fundamental change in the whole system of government of the united kingdom. do you think it's going to get rolled out as planned? as promised? >> i think it's going to have to be, and he has got all the three westminster parties behind him, but he dot have some problems, particularly within the conservative party where people are saying, hang on a minute. you've given all this to scotland. what about the rest of the u.k.? and i think it's very interesting in his first remarks that the law will have to be changed for england too.
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>> all right. thank you so much indeed for joining us, nicolas comfort from london. and incredible though it may seem, we're only just now getting the final, final result, although the prime minister's spoken, the leader of the scottish national party has spoken the final and full result is just coming in and errol barnett has that. >> we knew how this would all end. it is now official. the last council's numbers have come in, that of highland. 191,000 registered voters. their voice has been heard now. and the no vote beating out the yes campaign by some 10,000 votes. so what's interesting here as we take a look at the big picture now, the overall numbers, what that means as we approach the final moments of this referendum is that those voting no, to stay a part of the united kingdom, those voters have now topped 2 million, 2 million people making their voices heard saying they
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want to remain as scottish people as part of the u.k. should also be noted 1.6 million people did vote for scotland to become independent, but it wasn't enough. as we've shown you throughout the day, look at this map, look at all this red all around scotland. but 55% saying we want to stay part of the u.k., 45% saying no, we want to split away. that momentum is going to be something that those who want independence will try and capitalize on, but this is where things end. you can go ahead and stick a fork in the haggis. the no vote now topping more than 2 million people. >> i'm sure somebody somewhere will be sticking a fork in the haggis. the markets have been paying close attention and so has the world. the scottish referendum has affected many, many people and
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welcome back. so the final results are in. scotland has voted no to independence, yes to staying part of the united kingdom. so how are the global markets digesting this breaking news? let's go to nina del santos who joins us from the city with much more. >> reporter: up here at the top of the skyscraper which is the tallest building in europe, you can see the backdrop behind my remains pretty gray despite the fact that this huge cloud of uncertainty has been lifted from the financial markets. the 100 responding positively as you would expect. it's up, but it's not the stellar reaction some people were hoping for. the british pound which has been so central, that one has been rallying on the relief that we
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now know we have a definitive no decision to that vote. as you can sigh sterling trading up at 1.6443 to the u.s. dollar. it's also at a three-year high against the euro. we've also had some pretty big scottish stocks leading the charge on the ftsi. two financial institutions had drawn up contingency plans to move their headquarters south of the border as well as their billions of dollars in assets had they voted for independence. they both came out with statements in the past hour saying they will continue business as usual. a big pension fund and life insurance company has been a little bit more circumspect saying that it will cause it to
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keep the contingency plans in its back pocket. we've had the biggest employers lobbying, the confederation of british industry which has steered the debate for the no campaign for the last two years. coming out with a statement here, i want to read it to you. it says it's not too difficult campaign, and scars will take time to heal. and now what we need to see is politicians, business leaders and citizens unite to achieve a better future for the u.k. they said it's also important to ensure the international community that a situation like this won't happen again. >> it was the business community that came out to try to persuade the scottish people that economically, business wise, in terms of employment, they would be better together with the united kingdom. did they help sway people's votes, do you think? >> reporter: i think, you're probably right. there are also a lot of undecided economic questions
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here. and many people going to the polls probably felt how can i decide upon my country's future if i don't know which currency scotland will be using tomorrow or in the next 18 months or so. there were a lot of big economic questions that some say the yes campaign just didn't have answers to, including the currency and other issues as well as the oil assets that were to be fought for, et cetera. so the business community has a lot to talk about here. but they certainly tried to steer the debate, that's true, perhaps some might say in the absence of important political rhetoric gearing up towards this debate, the politicians entered the fray at a very late stage many of the business leaders have said. and you can bet that will steer the debate that west minister will be having with the business community. the tory party is the very business party across the u.k. david cameron will probably be fielding difficult phone calls from the business community as we head towards the prospect of
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further devolution of other countries inside the united kingdom, perhaps england and wales. and i point out that one thing that is slightly concerning economists across the city of london is the prospect of potentially higher interest rates coming sooner from the bank of england now that this cloud of uncertainty has lifted. if that is the case, the markets won't react too positively to that. >> nina, thanks so much. and this referendum has been watched very closely all around the world. not least on europe, on the couldn't ne continent as we say here in the united kingdom. we're going to be joined from berlin. how do you think this is going to play in germany which really is the heart of europe at the moment? >> reporter: the heart of europe and certainly the heart of the european union and a country that's been trying to keep europe together and try to dissuade, especially britain
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from leaving the european union. that referendum will take place very soon. we haven't gotten any reaction from the german government yet. but martin schultz has reacted, the president of the european parliament. he says he's not going to make any sort of denying of the fact that he did breathe a sigh of relief when the results came through. and the first thing he's going to tell prime minister cameron is that he hopes that a united britain will remain a strong partner and remain a member of the european union. therefore on the one hand, it's the sigh of relief that many politicians here in europe, not the least of which are the germans. there are secessionists across europe as well. the borders remaining in tact, that's the keystone of european politics for the better half of
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the last half century. but they're still worried about what might come with that referendum on britain joining or leaving the eu not too far away. >> there's that but other countries, spain, which faces its own separatist desires from not just one, but two sets of places. catalonia and the basque region. they were saying don't even it think you can join the eu on a fast track. they were trying to really dampen an idea of a referendum for independence. that must be a good result for the spanish government. >> reporter: it certainly is. and you know what was interesting to see not only the spanish reaction but the reaction of the eu politicians as well. because on the one hand you had the very strong statements from the spanish and from others who said listen, if the scots vote for independence, there's no
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saying whether they will be able to join the european union. it has to be a knunanimous decision. there would be push back. and then it would be difficult to imagine you would have a country right there in the middle of europe that was actually, even though it was part of great britain, part of the european union before and would have no status whatsoever. so certainly, it would be an interesting precedent that the eu would have to deal with. then you're right. there's belgium that has a separatist movement, there's italy and the germans that have the bavarians, every once in a while, even though that movement isn't strong at this point. so certainly all the countries are going to be very, very happy that the scots voted the way they did. >> the catalonians want to have a referendum in november. we'll see whether that takes place. we'll take a break. you can see the figures there on
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your screen. scotland has voted to stay inside the united kingdom. and there's a 10-point margin in favor of no to independence. we'll be right back with more of our breaking coverage.
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welcome back to our program, and a foggy morning here in edinburgh scotland. you might be able to just make out the ramparts of the historic edinburgh castle behind he. but at least the fog of political uncertainty has lifted over this referendum. scotland's historic bid to go it alone has died at the ballot box. opponents prevailed by some 55% to 45%. and overall, turnout was over 80%. so it is indeed a fair reflection of public sentiment.
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alex salmond says that he accepts the will of the people. and prime minister david cameron says while he's delighted with the result that the scottish people have decided to stay in the united kingdom there will be changes. could we still see similar referendums elsewhere? could we see one soon in spain's catalonia region? a massive crowd called for independence there last week in barcelona, which is where we now find our isa suarez. what do you think of the result today? we've had so many catalonian journalists looking at this process. >> reporter: well, good morning. the catalonian people, the once i have been speaking to this morning have basically said look, we're happy with whatever the result is. the most important thing in a democracy, they say, is the opportunity to vote. the scots got an opportunity to cast their vote. and that's all we are asking
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for. the government of spain hasn't spoken. the prime minister hasn't said a word. but we did hear from a top party leader who said that independence doesn't create -- it creates more problems. you were speaking to fred about what the prime minister was saying. he has been one of the outspoken leaders in europe about scottish independence. he said this week that independence in scotland would only worsen europe's economic slump. and he went on to say that basically, look, the idea, alex salmond's idea of an eight-month transition to become part of the eu was really a pipe dream. but people here are still hoping the dream is theirs for the taking. they really believe that what they've seen in scotland has given them the strength and belief that they can vote on this. and today in about seven hours
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or so, the catalonian regional parliament will introduce a new law that gives people here an opportunity to vote in referendums. and one of those could be independence. if that is approved -- many are expecting it will be -- then the catalonian president who we spoke to in june said he will decree a law making november 9 the vote for independence, but that, many expecting, will not go ahead because that needs approval from the madrid government. and they say that is illegal, christiane. >> isa suarez, thank you so much. while the focus turns elsewhere in europe, here the prime minister says this question is closed, at least for another generation. that does it for this hour of our special coverage. i'm christiane amanpour in edinburgh. early start is coming up for our viewers in the upt. for our international viewers, coverage continues. a day at the spa is essential for rejuvenating your spirit.
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