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must have something at this point to definitively believe she got in that car. >> he sounds awfully confident but all of those details are not being revealed as yet. this is a little bit of what the police chief said a bit ago. >> i looked closer and she's walking with a man. i believe that man was jesse matthew. i really do. i believe jesse matthew and hannah found their selves at the tempo restaurant. i believe that. eyewitnesss told us that. and i believe hannah graham left the restaurant with jesse matthew. i believe that. in fact, i believe that jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> all right.
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police chief timothy longo saying that jesse matthew is somebody they want to talk to but he is a few steps away from saying he is an actual suspect. there have been something like 900 tips that have come in according to other representatives of law enforcement. now what as they wait for that forensic testing result that longo said could be tomorrow? it could come tuesday, but he's not really sure when. >> i think there are several layers of things that are happening. the investigation will continue. they do say that that they will not have the community volunteer any more. it will be a targeted professional search and rescue that will be very focused, very targeted. they are waiting for the forensic result and i think they are looking for jesse matthew and i think that they will be trying to arrest him. it was a little surprising. they were asking people in this
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kmou community in the county, if you see any unusual tire tracks on your large plots of land, please let us know. that call out was made to this community also. >> now, mr. longo did not give extensively any kind of details about what kind of evidence may have been extracted from that vehicle or even his place of residence because apparently both places have been searched. we only know that there has been evidence that has been taken to the forensic lab. what kinds of evidence would that entail? >> what they're actually looking for among other things, not only her personal items, but they're looking for bodily fluids. blood, for instance. and they can do preliminary tests at the scene but many times they send this away. we saw out of the apartment
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there were paper bags taken out. we didn't see mattresses, parts of dry wall, carpeting samples. many times the forensic are looking for dna. they want to place her in that car and it's forensic analysis that can do that. >> customarily in a case like this with that kind of search, if there was evidence that would point towards a suspect, wouldn't they know that nearly right away? all of the evidence would not have to go to forensic lab? often that evidence that goes to forensic lab may be information that would help back up their initial suspicions. >> they can do preliminary tests on a car to see if something tests positive or presumptively positive for blood but dna testing has to be done in a lab. they want to have all their
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ducks in a row here. i think they are very methodical in how they are doing this but i do think it's interesting that they want to arrest him and have him in custody, potentially when the forensic results come back in. >> and potentially arrested on something unrelated, which would be reckless driving. >> which is not uncommon. >> it's not uncommon. it seems awfully unusual here and you're saying no? >> this is very curious. i mean, what is curious about this is the name that has been released, the name that was repeated over and over again by the police department. because we have seen other cases where the person they believe that it's wrong. that it's absolutely wrong. so i think that's what a lot of people are surprised at. law enforcement many times keeps this information close to the vest but in this case they want to be transparent. i'm sure they have thought about this and this is their decision. >> uh-huh. i'm sure it was the decision of
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john and susan graham, the parents of this young sophomore, to come forward. but at this time it would seem that, you know, this is certainly putting the family through a lot. give me an idea of how this decision may have come about? was it the feeling likely of john graham to say i feel like it's very important to understand who she is or is this something that the police department might say this could really assist in a great way in the ongoing search by parents doing this? >> i think that they had numerous conversations about it but it's obvious they need more information. they need people to have their conscious take the better of them and realize they have to step forward with information. when you heard the plea of those parents asking anyone who saw their daughter distinctively dressed that night to come forward, that's a plea that many would not be able to ignore. >> the entire uva community, to
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hear the emergency management, volunteers far and wide have been part of this investigation, what does it say that now there is a scaling back one week later of that effort? >> i think they covered almost the entire area with these volunteers. i saw them walking on the city streets, i saw them walking in the foliage around the community. and now they have to go with tips. it's going to be focused, it's going to be targeted and it's going to be a professional search and rescue. >> i think we were trying to rerack some of that interview from john graham. do we have that? all right. it looks like we're still working on that. i wonder, jean, what is the next step in this investigation as they await weather.
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this young man does step forward with this now misdemeanor charge with reckless driving. at what chance do they pursue him? >> well at this point, they are intentionally going to arrest him on what they say is a reckless driving misdemeanor but you can only hold someone for so long. i do want to say the family of jesse matthew, they are here in charlottesville and they are very concerned about this. it's a lovely family. and the friends of jesse matthew in this community, and i have been able to speak with a few of them, they're shocked. they say this is not that person. this person is a quiet person. this is not a person that would do something like this. i see shock on the faces of people that i have spoken to today that know him. that's one thing that makes this so curious. >> uh-huh. curious is the right word, jean.
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let's listen to these heartbreaking words from john graham with his wife, susan, at his side. >> if anyone could get through this, it is hannah. i have been trying to frame my thoughts with the idea that every moment that passes, we are one moment closer to having hannah back. let's hope today is the day. a lovely message that we received this morning. when i returned home from bringing hannah back to charlottesville for the beginning of term last month, i found that she had left this little guy behind. this is hannah's favorite white rabbit, bebe. he was given to hannah by one of my friends when she was left than a week old. bebe helped out in tuscaloosa and he was hannah's constant companion, friend and guardian
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angel until last month when she chose to go to charlottesville without him. constant except for about six months when hannah was about 3 years old when he was lost at nursery. we found bebe and brought him home to hannah and us. all we want to do now is bring hannah home safely. i appeal to anybody who knows anything, please, please, please help us. >> that from john graham and susan graham, clearly it was just too much anguish for her to be able to speak. so jean, in cases like this, when you hear this kind of heartfelt plea, how does that help turn a case around potentially? >> it creates more attention for the case. people stop and they watch and they listen. and one thing that mr. graham said in the midst of all of this, he said they were
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searching yesterday. nobody knew that. they haven't come forward but they were searching. i think that has to touch the souls of the mothers and fathers. i mean i have spoken to mothers and fathers here. and they say we have to help. we had to come out. they're hoping to touch someone that knows something. >> all right, jean, few so much. the family and community, everyone hoping that some information leads to hannah graham, this missing sophomore at uva. we will have much more right after this. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, we're not just insuring our lives... we're helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow.
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killing a state trooper and wounding another. here are the pictures of this suspect who is a self-described survivalist. we heard earlier from the authorities there out of pike county who talked about how they are trying to narrow their search. alexander field was at that press conference. while they are intensifying the search, at the same time they are asking residents to be vigilant to look for anything that is unusual while they have lifted that lock down. >> that is correct. the suspect simply cannot be underestimated. we are hearing quite a bit of confidence announcing that they feel confident that they are moving in on their suspect. they are closely focused on an area that is just a few square miles. the larger search area? about 250 square miles. the bulk of their focus that is
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just a few square miles. and for the first time we are hearing that they now have evidence that shows they are on freen's trail. they say they also have additional evidence this is something that freen had planned and prepared for. >> based on our investigation we know that freen thaz planned this for months, maybe years. he planned his attack and now retreat. we believe we are closing in on him. up until now his advantage has been that this is his backyard. we also know his backyard, the area he once felt safe in. we are pushing him hard. he is no longer safe and i am confident that he will be
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apprehe apprehended. >> the public does play a very large role in this. while police have lifted a shelter in place order, they are also asking people in this wider search area for help. they want to know any information that these people can share abthe terrain, if there are any potential shelters, potential bunkers. they really want people to come forward with any useful information. there have been several reported sightings of frein. we're also hearing more from them about an encounter that happened on friday night. that time we were told that police appeared to be surrounded an area that they believed that the suspect was. right now police are not linking these events together. police say there was no gunfire exchange with the subject. they cannot verify for us
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whether or not those shots were related to this search, but again they do want people to be cautious. they want people to be careful because this is an extensive search that is going on in a deeply wooded, thickly forested area. everyone has to continue to be vigilant with this now lifted. >> it's at the discretion of the school districts to determine whether or not they should continue on with school as planned with this ongoing manhunt. in the meantime in cities around the world today, activists are rallying for action on climate change. people filled the streets of manhattan, among them celebrities and world leaders. in two days the united nations will hold a summit on climate change. a huge turnout earlier. now it looks like it has dissipated a little bit.
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none the less people are hoping that their message is a resill yant one, right? >> no doubt about it. their voices were heard. this was a massive protest that took five hours just to move through midtown manhattan. we're standing here on an important 6th avenue because the march is way down there. it's still marching through the city. this was several thousands of people marching for hours. they are trying to shine the light on the issue of the need to cut down on fossil fuels all around the globe. they're trying to get countries to cut down or cut them out all together. and the timing is significant. this week starts the u.n. general assembly here in new york city. and also the timing is significant because it was just a few days ago that some top meteorologists said that june, july, and august, during the summer that we had the hottest summer globally. so that adds more fuel to the marchers fire. on getting their message across.
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>> and then what about the star power because there was a lot behind the message today. >> oh yeah, leonardo, mark russel, with a lot of issues, especially with climate change, they bring out celebrities but most of the celebrities that showed up today, they really have carried this issue with them. i want you to listen to what mark said to me earlier. why is it important for you to be here and lend your name to this? >> because of my kids and who i love dearly. i see the world changing quickly already and i want to see them -- i want to do my best to give them the best world that they deserve to have and that i was fortunate to come up into. >> and i talked with lots of activists and they say the point of this march is to build momentum to a big climate change
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conference that is happening in paris of next year. there is going to be no agreement that will be signed this week but once again it is about momentum. i want you to hear what one activist had to say. >> yes. we're seeing massive droughts. storms that are devastating the east coast and gulf coast. we are seeing flooding that has threatened this city and many others but it is just a taste test of what's to come if we don't urgently reverse course and the solution is so clear to get to 100% clean energy in every economy. >> also taking part in today's march, u.n. secretary general and al gore as well. they will be prominent faces at the u.n. general assembly this week. a footnote here, the u.s. has actually made great strides in getting a handle on carbon emissions because this country seems to be using more natural
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gas instead of coal to make electricity but many people say it's just not enough. >> all right, thanks so much for bringing that to us. straight ahead, debating the best way to stop isis. two military analysts don't necessarily see eye to eye on everything and how it should be done. but they join me next. ...which eyes? eyes that pivot with the road... ...that can see what light misses... ...eyes designed to warn when yours wander... or ones that can automatically bring the ls to a complete stop. all help make the unseen... ...seen. and make the ls perhaps the most visionary vehicle on the road. this is the pursuit of perfection. what does an apron have to do with car insurance?
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>> president barack obama addresses the united nations general assembly wednesday. we sat down with former president bill clinton and asked him about the beheadings and executions by isis. he asked if the executions were designed to bait the u.s. >> no. but there's a difference in, for example, using targeted drones and air strikes as we did against al qaeda effectively for years to try to take down their leadership and infrastructure and let them know that they can't just decapitate people for the cheap thrill of global media response and get away with it and getting bogged down in the kind of war they would like us
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to get bogged down in that would cost us a lot of lives and a lot of treasure and inevitable lead to greater civilian casualties which is why i think the president's strategy has a chance of succeeding because the iraqi government is more inclusive than it has been since the fall of saddam hussein and that seems to be awakening the willingness of senior travel leaders to participate in traveling. we know others are willin to fight. if we can help them and support them, i think the larger fight against isis can continue as it should, as a local struggle for the freedom and liberty of the people. >> you talked about the iraq part of the strategy, which you're right. it's viable. there's an iraqi army. it could be more effective if it were more inclusive.
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the syria part is the real puzzle. because you know, this is fierce civil war in which the stakes are very high. generally moderates don't do well in those circumstances. the turks have been trying to stand up for a long time. how do you think we should handle it? >> well, i support giving the forces that we most closely identify with greater capacity to fight isis. the whole question about sir syrian government is really academic. >> so do you think that it will stay? >> i don't know. but i think that the worst enemy right now is isis. and i don't think we should be in a position directly coordinating with or cooperating
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with assad, but i think we all recognize what would happen if isis had a monster like state that included most of syria and iraq. but i don't -- i think therefore that when the president said we would cooperate with moderate syrian forces, they're the only people we have to try to empower there to do their part in this struggle. >> former president bill clinton speaking out on the fight against isis. so will the u.s. or uk eventually have to put boots on the ground to defeat isis? we spoke to tony blair about isis and the president's plan. >> the president is absolutely right to take on isis and build the broadest possible coalition. there are round about 50 countries as part of this coalition. we have absolutely no choice but
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to do this, not just in order to contain and then destroy the on ward march of isis but also to send a very strong signal to the other terrorist groups operating beyond the region that we intend to take action and see it through. >> do you think this plan is going to do it? both the u.s. and britain have the u.s. particularly has committed to aerial assaults in iraq for sure. in syria, possibly later on. seems your country is moving that way, both ruling out putting combat troops on the ground. is that enough to get rid of isis. >> you certainly need to fight groups like isis on the ground. it is possible that those people who are there locally and have the most immediate interest in isis can carry on the offensive against them. this will evolve over time and i'm sure that the leadership both in the u.s. and elsewhere
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will make sure that whatever is necessary to defeat isis is done there is no need to put in an army of occupation. i think that we will undoubtedly be over time a need to hit isis. can those people if they are supported locally, can they do that job or will we have to supplement that. >> we are now hearing another plea from yet another british family saying please don't execute this man of peace. and we're also the heartbreak it seems to me particularly in britain must be worse because we're pretty sure that the man who is murdering these people is also british. why do so many british citizens seem to have joined up with isil. >> first of all, the way these
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hostages are abused and subject to this grotesque form of public parade and then execution, it's horrif horrific. it's evil and totally contrary to the principles of any form of religious faith. the question you asked about how many british borne jihadists are going to fight in syria? the estimates are several hundred have gone there. this is not just a problem for britain. most european countries also have foreign fighters there. there was a terrorist plot foiled in another area. >> my question really goes to the why rather than the numbers
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simply because if you're sitting there in britain or united states or norway, life isn't, from the outside you think life's not that bad. why would you join this war and behead people? >> this is an excellent question and one we have got to answer very clearly. these people aren't going because they are mistreated back in the uk. they are given a free education, free health care. they are given all the benefits and freedom that come with living in a country like britain. these people have been subject to an idea olg that has come from aboard. it's based on a complete per vision of the faith of islam. but it is powerful. it is pros is preached not just countries like pakistan and parts of the middle east and africa but back in parts of britain. and one of the things that we
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have got to look at as a country is how do you root this kind of teaching out and make it absolutely clear that it is completely unacceptable to teach these forms of extremism? >> tony blair suggesting ground troops just might be needed in the isis fight. and debating, the best way to stop isis, who military analysts don't necessarily see eye to eye on how it could be done. they join me next. 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. if you convert 4-quarter p/e of the s&p 500, its yield is doing a lot better... if you've had to become your own investment expert, maybe it's time for bny mellon, a different kind of wealth manager
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challenge of defeating isis from different angles. good to see both of you gentlemen. this week the president will try to win universal support. is it a worry if the u.s. were to carry out these air strikes alone? >> i think it would be worrisome if we didn't get additional coalition partners joining in on this. that is a critical piece. this is a worldwide issue. the emphasis so far is building the issue. we have seen france participate and i think we need to see many more. >> general marx, is it worrisome if there are not more who commit to air strikes? >> i think the worrisome part is that we haven't made the case if the coalition partners don't join the coalition to try to achieve an in state, then we have got a challenge on our hands. however there is still a requirement to achieve an in
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state that has isis out of iraq and the iraqi degree of relevance. the worrisome part is not necessarily in terms of the impact on the ground. it has to do with whether the rest of the world embraces this as a challenge. >> and then you have got the internal debate. it may be customary to take place in private but then perhaps see as a problem when it comes to public view. diz dempsey undercut the president by being so public about that dissent? >> i think he did. general dempsey commands the facts and commands the room. he is a first rate individual and a magnificent chairman. when asked by the senate whether there might be contingencies that soldiers or some form of
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ground forces would be required on the ground he answered and gave an example that said yes, possibly that would be the case. my suggestion certainly would have been keep that to yourself. planning can be done and is always done in a secret and rather closed way. he didn't need to answer the senate's questions with that degree of detail. but certainly that's his job. he has to do that. he didn't have to do it pubically. >> do you agree with that especially leading up to the eve of this u.n. security council speech by the president? >> we agree on just about everything but that is one thing we disagree on. he needed to show that yes, we're considering what might happen next. that's what we depend on our chairman to do. i agree with everything that spider said. this is one smart guy. i have known materially dempsey for a very long time. he is the best we can have in
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this position. he helped train the iraqi army. he spent over five years of his life over there and i think he knows what might have to happen next and he is preparing the american people for this long war with some potential branchs and sequels to the original plan. >> this week, former defense secretary gates says that ground forces has to happen. do you agree? >> yes, i do. and the preparation of what the horizon looks like, how long this might take is primarily the job of the president of the united states, the commander in chief, to gal vvanize the natio and say this is going be a long haul. that's not the job of the chairman of the joint chiefs.
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the job is to provide the president the best military council. that is a very private conversation. >> general, i know you don't like the term boots on the ground. so as we talk about ground forces, everything from, you know, spotters to advisors on the ground, is it, do you see that inevitably it will mean that they will have to engage in a conflict? >> again, i agree with spider. you certainly have to have ground forces. it just depends on where those ground forces come from. having spent several years of my life, i remember one time when i was talking to a governor from the north and he said you know what the problem is with the americans? you want this more than we do. and until we want it more than you, we can't win here. what we have to see and what the president is pushing is the iraqi government to stand up where as they did have the new
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replacement for the prime minister this week, they still do not have a minister of defense. they still do not have which is supposed to be a sunni, they still do not have a minister of the interior, the one who controls the police forces and secures the people, that is supposed to be a shia. so they still have problems facing them. until they get their act together in terms of driving that and providing security for all iraqi people, i don't think our ground forces should be the priority or even be considered as the major source going in. >> good to see both of you gentlemen. thanks for coming in. appreciate it. we'll be back right after this. oh wait, you may know her as a quirky detective or maybe you know her as the voice of anna in the movie frozen. chris says when she's away from hollywood, kristen bell is making an impact on the world.
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>> it's so basic. water is the only thing that everybody needs. >> actress kristen bell says she was alarmed to learn that hundreds of millions of people don't have access to clean water so she found a unique way to try to change that. >> for my 30th birthday i handed it over to charity. they have a spectacular program where you give up your birthday and you basically create a charity water page and you ask your friends instead of a present, to donate building a well. >> together you and i raised $100,000. >> charity water partners with groups already on the ground to build wells and rain collection systems. 100% of the profits go towards these projects. >> there are so many aftershocks of positivity, one of which is they are really focused on
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>> all right. it's national childhood cancer awareness month. it's estimated that more than 10,000 kids under the age of 15 will be diagnosed this year alone. one hero is helping kids kick cancer with power, peace, and purpose. >> come on. >> when children get a diagnosis like cancer or any major disease they lose a sense of feeling they are controlling their lives. they are prodded and poked and they are often so afraid. our daughter was diagnosed with leukemia. she was such an incredible little soul who taught me about the power that's inside of ourselves. >> are you ready? >> yes! >> okay.
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begin. >> after our daughter passed away, i started a program that provides classes to children who are sick, to teach them the martial arts. >> good. >> to make them feel powerful. every single type of martial arts uses the breath to take control. i'm a black belt. we use the martial arts as a platform for medication, for relaxation, to allow children to gain these tools. you're totally in control. to really face down so much of the fear and anger that accompanies pain. breathe in. and you can see that light on their face. i feel like their souls are shining. you did it. >> and an epic mission to mars is underway tomorrow. a nasa spacecraft is set to arrive at the red planet tonight!
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>> nasa's latest mars spacecraft is set to launch tonight. >> nasa is back in the news this week awarding two contracts, one to boeing, one to space-x, to get americans back to the space station by 2017. something else that's happening tonight? ma maven is set to arrive to the red planet. i talked to dr. jim green at nasa about their latest adventure. >> ten months ago we launched maven flawlessly. straight trajectory to mars. as we get there on sunday, we're going to reorient the
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spacecraft, fire our thrusters, and that's going to slow us down. we hope that will be enough that mars' gravity will capture us and put us in orbit. the spacecraft will start making major measurements. >> so with mars curiosity already on the surface, why do we need a spacecraft in its atmosphere? >> we believe that mars had rivers, lakes, and even oceans. it had an atmosphere more extensive than it does now. one of the things that curiosity found is that by measuring certain isotopes, it really indicated that mars lost an enormous amount of atmosphere. there is int occasion that curiosity is in an ancient river
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bed. >> billions of years ago, mars looked like earth. so billions of years from now, could earth look like mars? >> that's one of the things that we steady. these planets are similar. what happens on mars could happen on earth. all the questions we want to answer about mars and its upper atmosphere could be very important. >> so we're not talking climate change, global warming or any other short term event. nasa is researching the natural evolution of planets billions of years in the making and for the earth still hopefully billions of years in the future. back to you. >> thanks so much, chad. thanks so much to you for spending part of your sunday with us. the newsroom begins right after a short break.
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