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of an islamic state. now they seem to have inspired others. how worried should we be about this and americans being threatened, kidnapped if you will, warned if the u.s. and france in this case don't stop launching attacks against isis targets in iraq, these individuals will be killed. >> i think it is pretty worrisome, because the al qaeda affiliates in that part of the world, have not typically tilled their hostages. they've made about $90 million from ransoms. the french government has been one of the governments that paid the most. so it's not an accident quite a number of the hostages are french. but if indeed this group is affiliating itself with isis, that is not a good thing for these hostages or for that part of the world, because isis' ideology is so much more militant even than al qaeda,
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particularly when it comes to executing hostages in their custody. >> do you know, peter, why those 47 turkish diplomats being held hostage were all of a sudden freed? >> i don't think we know, wolf. typically money has exchanged hands when hostages have been released. i can't think of any hostage released by isis where there wasn't money exchanged. in fact, it's hard to think of any al qaeda affiliated group giving up something where money wasn't part of the equation. it has happened infrequently, almost to the point of zero. >> fran, how much of a threat does isis pose? we know they pose a great threat in iraq and syria. how much of a threat to they pose to the u.s. homehand? >> just today, the isis spokesman issued a call
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basically for lone wolf attacks. we heard the brian todd piece. very concerning, because it just necessarily call for attacks against sort of official targets but invites attacks against the civilians in the united states and france. we know the australians disrupted that plot. i think this is a real concern. now you have the foreign fighter threat and you have to contend with the lone wolf attacks which have now been called for officially by the group. >> peter, let me play a clip. this is king abdullah of jordan speaking today at the clinton deplorable initiative here in new york. >> as we try to create jobs and opportunities for the youth, isis today is providing foreign fighters $1,000 a month in salaries, which to people in jordan is the equivalent of middle class to higher middle class income.
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>> so how much of a threat is this? they have a lot of money. apparently they've stolen hundreds of millions from banks in iraq. >> and they're benefiting from millions a day from oil flows and obviously they have access to money from ransoms and extortion. so it's a big problem. king abdullah made the same point on "60 minutes" last night. i think it's a problem that sort of speaks for itself. these guys can pay for a large-scale insurgency and pay pretty good salaries. >> guys, thanks very much. we'll stay on top of this. very worrisome. just ahead, they disappeared from an american mall only to get found trying to get into canada. we're learning new details about the case of the missing afghan military officers. plus, a young star speaks at the united nations. a u.n. event that goes viral.
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deboraher iff deborah fairic is working that story for us. >> reporter: this is one of the situations where you would expect to hear from the pentagon, the state department. all are remaining quiet. these officers were guests of the u.s. military. they were invited to attend this cooperation program where they train and then go back to their own countries better than when they left. that's not what happened. they just didn't want to go back to their own countries. three senior afghan military officers attending a special training program in massachusetts were in custody monday after trying to cross from the u.s. into canada. canadian officials, who have in charge, will not confirm whether the three men were seeking asylum. the afghani military officers arrived in the u.s. september 11 to attend the two-week long program, designed to build good
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will between the u.s. military and its allies. that good will took an embarrassing turn, when the men slipped away while shopping at the cape cod mall saturday. >> security alerted the officials that were doing the exercise they were missing and the state police were involved. they were missing and never reported back. >> reporter: they were stopped monday by canadian border agents who took them in for questioning. >> they did not report back to their duty station. >> reporter: neither the pentagon nor anyone from the u.s. would comment on the incident. however, they were cleared by the state department and given visas to attend the program, along with some 200 participants from five nations. a source familiar with the vetting process says officers are usually hand picked. then thoroughly vetted, including a background check, possible polygraphs and interviews. the source says the three officers did not break the law
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and a spokesman for the massachusetts state police says no crime was committed. the afghans were among 15 officers from that country taking part in the program. they had been monitoring tactical scenarios using computer simulations. they're supposed to return to afghanistan this week. and last week two afghan police officers training with the drug enforcement administration also made a run for the canadian border. however, they were picked up and sent home. wolf? >> deborah, what a mystery this is. thank you very much. just ahead, chelsea clinton and her mom take center stage. how will it affect her mother's likely presidential bid? and an actress causes a sensation right here on the internet and here at the united nations. >> you might be thinking who is this harry potter girl and who is she doing speaking at the u.n.?
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we're back live here at the united nations. you can see the barricades behind me. security always tight here at the u.n. but even more so for the general assembly meetings this week and the speeches by president obama and so many other world leaders. there's new reason to be concerned after a shocking security breach over at the white house as well. let's talk about all of this and more with our chief political analyst gloria borger and donna brazil and s.e. cupp. thank you very much for joining us. a lot on the agenda for the president, gloria, this week. can he get the job done? the immediate job of forging a powerful coalition to try to defeat iisis?
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>> that's what he's there to do, they want to get a coalition together for bombing syria. they also want to do something called a countering violent extremism. they want to establish a commission on that, so the countries can work together, wolf, instead of in the moment. but before hand to try and counter violent extremists. the president is going to chair a commission meeting on that. so they have a lot on their agenda, and the president really wants to have a position where he wants to kind of lead the u.n. in this direction. and get allies together visibly, not in covert way. >> donna, he seems to be getting a lot more conservative support from republicans who like this new war against isis and a whole bunch of liberal democrats are really queazy about what the
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president is getting the u.s. into right now. >> wolf, i think what you see is both democrats and republicans responding to the threat that isil poses to the united states and people across the globe. the president has already assembled a broad national -- i mean international coalition, 50 countries, organizations like saudi arabia that has taken initiative in terms of providing assistance, many other countries, whether it's air strikes or delegit matizing the icing ideology. there's a lot to do before we can just, you know, basically pack up our bags and go home. this is a global threat and the president is doing the right thing getting a broad coalition to help fight it. >> donna is with the president. s.e., what about you? >> i'm reminded of an interview i did with donald rumsfeld.
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i asked him about the president's action in libya. he said generally, you define an objective and build a coalition. what president obama did in libya was to build a coalition and later tried to define the mission. i worry that's what's happening here. the president seems far more concerned with building the coalition than identifying a very clear objective. i'm worrying that we're not going to get the support we need from our international actors because they don't know that we are committed to a clear objective. so i think the president still has come work to do in terms of setting out those clear objectives, how long are we going to be there, what is the goal, who are we trying to eradicate and how far will we go to do it before he gets that coalition that he wants and i think should have. >> you know, wolf, the problem with defining the clear objective, which i agree he ought to do, that if you define it as destroying isis, you have
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to say to the american people, this is open ended. that this is going to take a long time. this is not the legacy the president wants to leave, but it's one he has to leave. so that's very, very difficult for him. yes, >> go ahead. wolf? >> i'm sorry. in material of stopping the foreign fighters from entering the battlefield. and also, sure that we can close that border. stopping the financing of isis. that is something that i think the president has set out some clear objectives. the mission is clear. we know what we have to do. it is important to have coalition. if the united states is going to war with isis or isil, that is not good for us and it is not good in terms of trying to
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defeat this challenge. so i think he is going about it the right way and hopefully we'll be successful. i'm talking about the united states and all of our allies. we cannot do this alone. >> i think the mission the president has set out is very, very clear to degrade and ultimately destroy isis. what isn't clear is how this will be achieved. this is a work in progress. they have a lot to do. it is very disturbing. very worrisome, what happened over the weekend. a guy not only jumps the fence but also gets inside the executive mansion. it is a very worrisome development. this is a work in progress as well. >> it is a work in progress. thank goodness the president had left for camp david and he wasn't there. i think you have to ask a lot of questions. how did this fellow get over the fence? should the fence be changed?
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why weren't the dogs sent out? why was the door unlocked? they found ammunition in his car apparently. and what should the secret service have done in this march situation? should they have opened fire? there are plenty there. this is something that has unravel and you can't do it in a day but i think the secret service yet again will have to be at its protocol and seeing whether something has to be changed there. clearly this fellow just jumped over. >> starting with let's lock the front door. this isn't gomer pyle in mayberry. to have the white house door open is absurd. more people now rank terrorism as the second most important concern next to the economy when it comes to voting issues. so this is not a good time to have that lack of confidence and
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that breach of security at the white house for political reasons and actual -- >> over 30 incidents since 1970. over 24 since we closed down pennsylvania avenue. i think this is something we have to look. a congress is coming back next week. and hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it. >> hopefully we will. security to the president and his family obviously a top, top matter. just ahead, you can hear from yourself why a very passionate, why emma watson has received so many attention. >> the more i've spoken about feminism the more i have realize that had fighting for women's rights has too often become synonymous with manhating. who's going to make it happen? discover a new energy source. turn ocean waves into power. design cars that capture their emissions. build bridges that fix themselves.
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one of the stars of the harry potter movies is an internet sensation for delivering a truly passionate appeal for women's right here at the united nations. i heard emma watson's moving speech in person. in fact i introduced her in my role hosting the launch of a new u.n. initiative called he for she promoting gender equality of it was this harry potter girl as she called herself who stole the show. if you're not familiar with her most famous movie role, she played harry's brainy pal, hermione granger. listen to emma wattson's powerful remarks about feminism
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and the misconceptions many people still have. >> i was pointed as good will ambassador for women six months ago. the more i've spoken about feminism, the more i have realized that fighting for women's rights has too often become synonymous with manhating. if there is one thing i know for certain, it is that this has to stop. for the record, feminism by definition is the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. it is the theory of the political, economic and social equality of te quality sexes. >> she proudly declared she is a feminist. she invited men to support
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gender equality. go to he for she.org if you want more information. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >> next, news. the man who jumped the white house fence had more than 800 rounds of am month in his car. how did he get through the front door of the white house? and more news. a new message from isis calling for lone wolves to kill ffls. americans fighting militants overseas are now back on u.s. soil. plus, the fbi joining the hunt for missing uva student. how did police let the student last seen with hannah graham get away? let's go out front. good evening.
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