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terrorism. statistics find that you are much more likely to be shot by a police officer in this country than killed in a terrorist attack. yet another unarmed black man was shot this month. this time in south carolina by a state trooper, but this time, the incident was caught on dashboard video. >> what did you, why did you shoot me? >> well, you doubled back into your car. >> i'm sorry. >> plus, we have an exclusive, lebron james opens up to cnn, his first in depth interview since resigning with the cavaliers. he talks about returning to cleveland, offseason weight loss and what happened in ferguson, missouri. and a lot to get to, we're going to begin with the warning to a threat of the u.s. transit systems. pamela, the supposed plot against the subway, u.s. officials are telling people not to worry, but where did this come from? >> well, today, iraqi prime

minister made comments to journalists of a gathering of role leaders and said he was told of a plot by isis against u.s. and french subways and when he was asked if that was imminent, he said yes and of course, after that, it didn't take long for u.s. officials to respond. they said they're unaware of the plot. i was in a closed door session with other reporters with james comey today after the prime minister made that statement and he said he hadn't heard anything about it. that would be something front and center on his radar. >> and so, people are worried though about an attack on u.s. soil and as you said, you spoke with the director of the fbi today. what is he, did he go on to give any more details about trying to figure out where this came from? >> he didn't. he really had nothing more to add on that suggest. he did say, which is interesting, that the group, the

group of al-qaeda operatives, he believes it still exists and until he has concrete evidence to show him otherwise, he believes they are still plotting against the west and intelligence officials told cnn of al-qaeda terrorists have a supply of materials, they were in an advanced stage of plotting of strikes. one of the plots involved bringing concealed bombs on to planes. he said as of now, the threat remains the same as we awaits the official strike assessment from the pentagon. >> talk about what else he said to you because he's saying now they know the identity of the can i recall in those isis beheading videos. how do they do it and why aren't they naming him? >> that's a good question. l he said it was a combination of factors. actually, officials said they were able to trace his accent to london. from there, they picked apart metta data and relied heavily on

human sources to help pinpoint the identity and they aren't naming him because they're still investigating. they're building a case and tracking this person's network of contact. essentially, it doesn't hold value to identify this person before that process is complete. >> pamela, thank you so much. >> let's talk more about this. we're joinsed by james phillips, senior research fellow at the heritage foundation. juliet, national security analyst and ed davis, former police commissioner in boston. jill, let me start with you. what do you think this new iraqi prime minister was trying to accomplish by suggesting that he had some sort of intelligence no one else had about this plot? >> i think he may have been trying to underscore the value that he adds to the west's efforts to attack the terrorists in neighboring syria.

he may have tried to inflate the intelligence that he or his intelligence ministry has and secondly, he may not be used to deal wging with the western press. he's probably used to spoon feeding iraqi press and is not often challenged on these kinds of claims, but it's highly irregular to publicly make these charges without having strong background information. >> that's a great point. i'm sure he is not used to dealing with the u.s. press. we take those points critically and we want to know is is source. to come out and reassure new yorkers tonight. listen. >> and i have a simple message for all new yorkers. immediately credible threat to our subway system.

i say that with about their business as they normally would. >> tonight, here in new york, yes, i think absolutely. confidence to the extent that we are at a heightened security level of course because we're in the middle of military action against two terrorists organizations, but the iraqi assessment is essentially someone hearing what they heard from someone else. it just happens to be the prime minister who is repeating it. this is why intelligence should never be said by a prime minister or politics. we don't know how this intelligence was acquired. was it through detention or interrogation. it's not been validated. i think this story should end where it begins, probably in iraq and has no impact, at least on the security assessment right now. >> davis, regardless of any of this, law enforcement has to take all of this serious ly and every day, when i get on the subway, i see people stopping, checking bags, looking through bags and talking to people.

does that help to prevent a terrorist attack? what are offices looking for when they go through that? >> well, certainly does. increased visibility, officers stepping out to the subway. i was on the number one train in manhattan two days ago and two nypd officers came on. if someone is looking to do something and they see that visibility, they're going to think twice about it and i think that's what john miller and bill braaten are doing in new york and considering what happened yesterday on the floor of the united nations, the president made clear we're at war with terrorists and as a result of that, we have to understand that we're on the other side of that. >> juliet, i want to talk about the beheading videos we have seen coming out of isis. today, the fbi says they have identified the man holding the knife. in those videos. we can't be sure that he's the killer because you don't see the actual gruesome moment of

beheading. why aren't they saying more about who he is? >> well, because this isn't a man hunt. essentially, the benefit of knows who it is, now the investigation intelligence sort of forms circles around him. where did he dpo to school, who does he know, who does he worship, like how are these men being recruited, how are they getting there. questions that are important to you can stop the flow of westerners to isis. but there's a little old phrase in intelligence circles, called black propaganda. you try to disrupt the enemy by saying all sorts of things about what you know. i think it's smart for the administration to say we know who it is, so others who might think they wouldn't be identified get a little nervous that now, they might be identified. so there's a little bit of propaganda in this as well. >> that moves him further along, but let's get back here to the threat at home.

this can go to jim or juliet. bottom line, americas are really fearful. they're getting mixed messages about the reality of their city or town. first to jim, then juliet. >> i think in the short run, the threat is coming from probably self-radicalized lone wolfs. i doubt isis i doubt that isis has had a chance to develop a network inside our country, although, al qaeda core group they have a much more of a head start on them. but in the short run, i would -- be, nervous about lone wolves who are, watching these kind of videos and take action themselves. >> that seems to be the whole thing about lone wolves. we spoke a lot about that last night. then again do you agree with that julia? >> absolutely, look, the government has to do a lot of things right now. not just about terrorism all the time. and so, there are going to be -- other priorities and so i am, i

am, if there is any person in government you don't want to not prioritize, sorry for the double negatives, terrorism, the head of the fbi he needs to be solely focused on this threat until he is told definitively that the threat no longer exists. i understand the point which is until he is told to stand down, it has, it is his job to, to singularly focus on the homeland threat. >> you know another thing the fbi director said today that's he is not convinced that the air strikes in syria have actually disrupted any plot by khorasan. that is not a good message. >> no. and that particular statement is much more important than anything the iraqi prime minister had to say today. i think as citizens of the united states, listening to the fbi director, concerns he has and being vigilant and cautious is the right thing to do right now. >> thank you, everyone. just ahead, how effective, we have been talking about have the air strikes been against isis

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>> how do we know if the air strikes are working? >> say again? we know in the safe haven, the disruption is happening. the khorasan piece. it will continue. the isr, predators will be over the top of this thing. really starting to look at what is going on on the ground. and what we talked about the other night. what is happening now, what we will call the unblinking eye. the persistent intelligence that is going on, watching everything that is happening on the ground. all at the same time, continuing to do, persistent bombing and target og ing on the ground. there are supposed to be special forces involved. any other advisers, what are they doing on the ground, colonel reece? >> right now, the president said there is no boots on the ground. we know there is 1700 special operations special operations support individuals.

in baghdad, up in irbil, through out iraq that are with the brigades and divisions of the iraqi security forces. advising them, helping them, with their intelligence. we have special forces throughout the area. jordan, saudi arabias. up in turkey. again, we are advisinadvising, people understand what intelligence scan be. also helping them with their intelligence networks to train their people around -- on the ground to identify, find, fix, finish, some of these aspects in the intelligence we are lacking for to really start bringing back our -- bda. >> supposed to be a second part of this campaign. iraqi forces in peshmerga. when will we see action on that front if at all. rick francona. >> don, that is an excellent question. we had a set back today looking at what happened west of fallujah. the second piece of this as the

you say. after the initial start of the air campaign. having an effect. so, the air, the air strikes have been able to stop that momentum. then ideally, air can't take take back, and ground forces rally and move in to take the land back. it is, the iraqi army is having a real problem. we saw one of their out posts, being completely overrun by isis. there is no releader shch in th iraqi army of the 26 brigades. they're not showing leadership. no minister of defense. no minister of the interior. people make the price are the soldiers in the trenches. so where is that second piece it? is not active yet. how much, how long can the air hold these guys off.

the reports of what happened at that army outpost, sound really, really chilling. the survivors and there aren't many, describe, they basically thought that help was coming. they were surrounded by isis. so they thought when they saw this convoy of humvees rolling up, they were relieved. and they thought it was help. then they found out, that it was suicide bombers. and scores of soldiers were killed. it just sounds horrible. there is a survivor. let any listen before you respond to that. let's listen. >> i engauged them. fired and killed four until a sniper shot me. from 2:30 until 10:00 a.m. no one came to help us. i had been calling the commander since 2:00 clock a.m. at night for support. no one responded and they sent us nothing. i stayed injured for nine hours, waiting for them until they air lifted me here.

how do we avoid something like this happening. >> well, you know, unfortunately that's what is going to happen right now. that's why we need this bombing campaign. the bombing campaign is doing action until we can get iraqis to start supporting themselves. what you have right now. these are terms, the american people have heard. these are small fobs, iraqi fobs, outposts. 200 man element. they're not interconnected. they didn't have supporting -- they didn't have any logistics, don't have much communications between them. you get 200, young, brave men out there. want to defend their country. want to defend themselves. what happens is, isis is smart enough off to isolate that fob. they start to engage them in a fight. until the iraqis run out of ammunition. run out of food. they have no quick reaction for to come help them. they have some of the iraqi air force that can help them. or if the u.s. or -- bombers can get it. no one can call for fire.

troops in contact. it is a mess. >> and this is exactly what we saw. as they came down the euphrates. exact same tactic. very effective then. very effective now. at some point the iraqi army has the to take back the territory. further help from the u.s. or coalition? >> that's the problem. jim will jump in. special forces go out and replicate, iraqi command structure melted away. the problem with that is, that is the deaf ngs of troops, boots on the ground. >> general. have to leave it there. -- is the definition of troops on the ground. >> general. we have to leave it there. how can western women be attracted to isis. why some of them consider this terror group, family friendly. that's next. a yummy reward is important after a good workout

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>> another developing story, police in london arrested nine men today in an anti-terrorism sweep. all are suspected of membership in a banned terror group.

news reports say that one of those taken into custody is a radical british cleric who appeared on cnn just a few weeks ago with reliable sources anchor brian selter. listen to this. >> you said you would pose no threat to the of the k, wouldn't you agree that you convert people to a radical form of islam? >> you know, there is nothing radical or moderate form of islam. a woman is either pregnant or not pregnant. if you abide by saddam, you follow the koran. and traditions of the prophet. >> let's talk more about radicalism in the west. mia bloom, author of bombshell. and professor of security studies at university of massachusetts law. and a former jihadist, co-author of undercover jihadi. and a senior fellow at foundation for defense of democracies. all right, let's talk about this. among those arrested in london.

for years under scrutiny of british security forces. why did it take so long to arrest him. >> unclear. a couple theories that one can look at though. when they prosecuted him. they would convict him. a second one is fli paper theory. people who were radicalized and succumbed to radical form and pose ad a throaeat would congre. they could monitor his connectionen connectio connections. >> he is clear about mismessahi mission. he is not a cleric. he has no traditional training. i speak on behalf of muslims we are delighted the fact that he

has been arrested finally. to answer your question, yes, hate speak, hate speakers like him, are responsible for radicalization of muslim youth. absolutely. >> i want to talk about women and why western women might be attracted to isis. we have a fascinating film that cnn acquired of women living in raqqa, under isis, and having an are g argument with their family back at home. believe a french woman. speaking french. how she loves it there. she doesn't want to go back home. maybe we can play a clip of this. >> i don't want to come back. because i feel good here. it's not a question of coming back or not, if i want i can come back. i just don't want to come back because i feel good here. >> mia, another really insightful piece. in associated press reported to day about how some women believe

that isis offers, is sort fauchlly friendly because it ta takes the children out of the culture of sex and drugs and alcohol and so some how it feels like structure and feels more safe. is that what is going on here? >> that's part of the story. there was aster th steory that e out yesterday. a woman from turkey, who left with her 3-year-old son and went to live in syria and she said, precisely that. she wanted to take her 3-year-old out of the culture of secularism, out of, out of culture of sex and drugs, and bring him up properly in the caliphate, consistent with the ex-punk rocker, sally jones, british woman who left and took her 10-year-old son to live in raqqa in syria. >> what is it? what is at the heart of this? what is a peelingppealing about? >> they think that it offers a

utopian opportunity to live in society, muslims, they will be unmolested went be mistreated as muslim and the kids will not have the kind of influences in western society. both mentioned they're worried about their kids being influenced by homosexuals. >> i see you nodding your head. that makes sense to you? >> can you hear me? >> yeah, yeah, sorry. >> i saw you nodding your head, did that make sense? >> yeah, mia is absolutely right. that utopian society, where muslims will be unmolested. dealing with a grievance based ideology, muslims are oppressed, persecuted whether in muslim lands or non-muslim lands. so this fits their utopian fantasy of it is like a pop-up tent. they think if we establish it, we'll all live happily ever after. >> fascinating to hear, from, from one of these women that, that same woman in raqqa is reacting to in her family, it, to her family back home

apparently. getting upset with her. listen to this. reminiscent of families trying to get their children in the u.s. out of cults. is there anything that family members can say that is convincing to their relatives who have been radicalized to get through to them? david? >> that is a great question. it's extraordinarily hard when somebody is actually in a situation like that. some one in a place like raqqa or the taliban's afghanistan. usually the family is at a great disadvantage. one famous cell phone video taken.

of a young man of tunisian origin, had gone to fight in syria. as he was flying through turkey his family tracked him down in the airport. and his family surrounded him. his sister, mother. they were crying. they hugged him and dissuaded him from fighting as a foreign fighter. a family intervention. in person. and really personalized humanized situation. for the phone call in raqqa, much, much harder for the family to get through. >> frankly, most families dent hatch the resources or know-how to go to a foreign country off to intercept their loved one. that take is a lot of effort. most people would be afraid to do that. am i wrong, mia. >> no, i think you are right. but we actually have looked at violent extremism. the role of mothers is crucial. really the mother whose can, either engage and deradicalization or prevention

or insulate the kids from radical ideologies and we really don't understand the best ways to exploit mothers in this was. >> why mothers? why mothers? awe all it is something about the relationship between the motherses and the sons. doesn't necessarily play out between the sons and their fathers. i think it also has to do with the reason why terrorist groups all ways separate the operative from their families, the mothers. they don't change their minds at the last minute. say they're a suicide bomber. this we have seen across a number of organizations. >> interesting. >> fascinating. >> thank you so much for the insight. into that. you can just imagine how, how, helpless the families feel. their loved one has left. and they're so different now. almost, as though, they have been brainwashed. >> something, something, to that, mother/son thing. probably, she says it needs to be exploited in a way to fry to figure out how to stop some of these people from doing that. >> coming up, the back ground

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>> big controversy to tell you about, the debut this week of what many call anti-muslim ads on new york city buses and subways is stirring outrage. people saying that the ad promote hate. but the woman behind the ad claim that they tell the truth, that the media and the u.s. government often ignore. cnn's rosa flores has more. >> reporter: it take is a lot to turn heads in new york city. but on a day when commuters are dealing with word of a potential isis terror plot, the startling ads soon to appear on buses as well, are a shock to the system. >> i find them very disturbing. >> here's one, that says, islamic jew-hatred is in the koran. stop the hate. this one which shows a picture of james foley, most before he

was brutally killed by isis saying it is not islam-phobia it's islam-realism. >> it's america. you can say what you want. >> it's propaganda to really promote hate. >> pamela geller president of american freedom defense is nsh tiff is behind the campaign and says her message is not anti-muslim, it is anti-jihad. >> there is nothing in my ad that say muslim. we oppose jihad. the idea it is anti-muslim in my opinion is a way of detracting from the message. >> reporter: she says it is the koran that ignites jihad. >> there are numerous, numerous verses and calling for an i lags of the nonbeliever, smite them at their necks. >> to say that the koran in and of itself is really what guides the choices muslims make is, is really naive.

>> the ads are generating outrage. >> these ads incite violence. >> especially from organizations like council on american islamic relations. >> these ads are targeted mainly at people who are not muslims. frying to get them to hate islam and be hostile to american muslims. >> this is not the first time geller has rattled emotions with edgy campaigns. look at these ads for back in 2012 when metropolitan transportation authority rejected one of her ads. she took her message to federal court and within. that's why all of these ads have a disclaimer that says, the display of this advertisement does not imply endorsement of any views expressed because in america all views are protected under the first amendment. freedom of speech, protecting what some call a message of intolerance. in a city and a nation increasingly on the edge. rosa flores, cnn, new york. >> thank you very much.

back now with my guests. you can do that in america, that's what america is about. many places around the world you cannot do that. daveed, do anti-islam ads, she said, anti-jihadist ads, add fuel to the fire at a tense time? are they dangerous? the question is how much fuel do they add. i am not convinced when you look at the full picture of afrg that is going on. in terms of lone wolf threats. it is uniquely dangerous. it is not helpful. >> you said not uniquely dangerous. you didn't believe some people will look at that and -- >> what i mean is when i look at the full range of thing that are going on. i don't look at this and say, you know, this, this, alone is likely to engender a terrorist attack. radicalization, last thing we were talking about, radicalization, can be engendered by any number of things, grievance based.

ideology based. not trying to underplay potential. if i looked at a list of top five, toch tp ten things likely cause a terror attack. this wouldn't be on them. possible. we will see. >> sure, i don't think the ads. fear of the ad is that they're going to heighten radicalization. i think that the fear is that they will heighten hate red towards moderate muslims. they're inflammatory. they show adolf hitler meeting with the muslim leader. call for ending all u.s. aide off to all islamic countries that if label as you saw, label the koran, islamic jew hatred being in there. again, her argument, pamela geller's, she is trying to grab people by the shoulders and shake them to tell them what, violent extremism is about. >> one thing i know tis in there, she said this is, not about islam-a-phobia, she said

islam-a-realism. nowhere it says jihad-realism. >> she lumps it all together. what is your reaction to these? >> pamela gerl ller is an extret hate speaker, contributed to the terror attack in which children were killed. >> wait, wait, wait. how do you think she contributed to that? >> well, by this, muslim hatred. the narrative muslims are taking over. muslims terrorist on every corner. this was the narrative that inspired him, his idea giving too much accommodation to muslims. and he quoted her in his manifesto. multiple times. secondly, what's ironic. is that these people they give the same interpretation that terrorists do. so when i hear a non-muslim critic saying, yeah, islam teaches you to kill the disbelievers and this and that. they, they repeat terrorist

propaganda verbatim. like when she said, smite them at their necks. god speaking to the angels. okay. so they will cherry pick verses, and just like the extremists do. the third point is as daveed. extremism can be anything that puts some body over the edge. radicalization happens to them and us. the question is how does it radicalize american public against muslims. at the end of the day. muslims are more than keen to denounce extremism. why, why then denoun the very people that, that we are demanding denons eunce extremis. makes no sense. >> listen. she has a lot of moderae muslims who agree with her. do you belief that is true? i don't believe that at all. >> david. >> it's, seems pretty unlikely. i mean, as you said. the, the -- the slogan is, not

islamphobia, it is realism. pretty clearly talking about religion, not just jihadism. >> then, a lot of moderate muslims agree with her. they went say it publicly. >> these guys said public low they don't. daveed. ads start september 29th. next week we'll see those on buses and subways. yeah. >> coming up. lebron james is one of the most outspoken stars in the nba. and in a candid new interview he oe opens up about racism in the nba. rachel nichols goes one-on-one with the superstar next. [ male announcer ] ...you'd expect us to have a highly skilled call center. kevin, neill holley's on line one. ok, great. [ male announcer ] and we do. it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. [ male announcer ] a♪ [music] defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum.

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>> thank you. >> super excited to see your interview with lebron. before that, we understand you have breaking news tonight on the nfl's ray rice scandal, what is it? >> yes, you may remember a few weeks ago associated press cam out with a report saying that a law enforcement official, in atlantic city, had actually sent the elevator video of ray rice to the nfl in april. so, before they made their decision about his suspension and, certainly before, roger goodell had said unequivocally no one had the tape and hadn't seen it. he presented evidence of a voice mail some one in the nfl offices with the number there, written there, saying, yes, we got it. i saw it. it's terrible. we didn't know the name of who've the law enforcement official sent it to. however. today associated press report aid name. that name, nfl head of security, jeffrey miller. so, someone in his office, was the one who responded and said, yes, we got it, you're right. it's terrible.

and in fact, there was a note apparently on the dvd saying, this is the ray rice elevator video. you have to see it. it's terrible. it is getting harder and harder to believe the nfl's denials. now possible that jeffrey miller never saw the tape. he came out with a strong statement tonight. saying he never saw the video. it is possible. then you have to start asking, how much does that matter. and really a question of accountability. if it was in your office off to that degree. somebody should have seen it. if they've didn't see it. that is almost just as bad. >> rachel, the statement says i deny that i received it at any time a copy of video and had not watched it until it was made public on september 8th. >> joseph miller. jeffrey miller. >> jeffrey miller. there you go. >> okay. rachel is there another story breaking tonight that has to do with domestic violence.

thifs o this one involving the charlotte hornets' basketball player. >> yeah, absolutely. we don't know all the facts in this case yet. obviously jeff taylor, not a prominent player with the charlotte hornets. third year plater. certainly were expecting to use him more. arrested on domestic abous charges. we don't know yet the story behind it. what we do know is nba is going to have to take this seriously. doesn't mean the right thing to do is throw taylor off the court. they have to investigate this. but the right thing to do clearly here, is to make sure that this is important to them. that's the lesson that we have learned from the nfl and huh they handle their bungled, the rice investigation, the lesson we have learned from us soccer has not taken hope solo off the field despite her domestic violence history. the nba under pressure to thoroughly investigate this. a source in the league office tells me they're under way. >> speaking of the nba you were granted an indepth interview with lebron james.

the first since resigning with the cleveland have leers. seems like just yesterday it was breaking news. i was interviewing you, low brn is going back to cliff, oh, my gosh. can't wait to see the interview. take a look and talk about it. this has not been a great year for nba owners, donald sterling, forced out of the league. hawks owner, and received an e-mail. that this league has too many black fans, and he's got some african in him if that makes sense. like he has some -- >> danny was gm while i was there in cleveland. and i never got that sense about him. but that doesn't mean, you know what he said about, deng was right. it was absolutely wrong. very insensitive. there is no room for that in our

sport. we all know that obviously. there is not no room for that in our league, any league, not even a league. not room for that in society. >> you spoke out on the sterling issue and on trayvon martin, how is your willingness to take a leadership role on those things changed as you have gotten older. >> for me, if i feel passionate about it. and i feel look something need to be said or something needs to be done. i voice my opinion. i educate myself beaver i dive into a situation. >> incidents in ferguson, missouri. in the past few months. >> dent shoot. >> the specifics of the situation. it did spark a national conversation the way america sees young black men. what do you think about where we are right now? >> i definitely voiced my opinion on the pietrayvon marti piece, and the ferguson. two boys of my own. if one day my kids left home to

go anywhere. you expect your kids to return. you expect your kids to return home unless they're off off to college. i couldn't imagine them not returning home because of some one else's, i don't know, just not thinking, or, or, cowardice act or whatever the case may be. we know racism is still alive. only thing i can do as a role model. teach my kids. and people following me what the right way is. >> you may remember when michael jordan was playing he was extremely reluctant to voice any opinion on social issue, political issues at all. lebron james, obviously not taking that path. standing up for what he believes, guys. >> he has got a long career ahead him. but one guy who is calling it quits, at laes wheast when it co baseball. 20 years, derek jeter. a within tonight. >> so dramatic. final at-bat, yankee stadium. he singled bottom of the ninth

inning. here comes richardson. richardson is safe. derek jeter. his final game. >> can you believe it? >> 6-5 win. walkoff win. >> the captain. right. walkoff. rbi. bottom of the ninth. come of back win. it is, amazing. you couldn't have scripted it better. except, derek jeter has done this his entire career. he is not the best yankee ever. not even the best shortstop in yankees history. but he may be one of their best winners ever. he is captain clutch. showed it tonight. and guys i sat down with derek earlier this summer just talking to him about his retirement. he said he was looking forward. after these last stretch of games to just basically do nothing for six, eight months. he hasn't done that in 20 years. after that he said, he does want to start working towards building to becoming a team owner in major league baseball. you haven't seen the last of derek jeter. what a way to go out. wow. mike a fairy tale.

thank you much. >> thank you, rachel. see you soon. >> watch the full interview with lebron james tomorrow night. on cnn's unguarded with rachel nichols. at 10:30 eastern. we'll be right back.

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