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the power to influence. i hope you have learned today. that will wrap things up. time to get you back into the cnn news room. > . you are in the cnn news room. we are tracking a dramatic and disturbing story out of oklahoma where a man is accused of beheading one of his co workers and severely injuring another. police say alten nole nd will be charged with first degree murder and assault and battery with a deadly weapon and may face federal charges. police say he had been trying to convert co workers to islam. we learned he woke up from sedation after being shot. he was interviewed by police and
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could be released from the hospital early next week. >> reporter: police have released some details about the suspect in this week's beheading in moore, oklahoma. we are beginning to learn more about him from his facebook page. police say this is the facebook page of the man suspected of beheading a co worker in moore, oklahoma. the images and messages on the page appear to support islamic radicalests. he writes about judgment day and criticizes united states. it was on thursday that police say he brought horror to his work place. he was fired from his job that day to return shortly afterward with a knife. >> he encountered the first victim and began assaulting her with the knife. he did kill colleen and did
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sever her head. >> reporter: according to police the suspect began attacking a second woman who he was shot and stopped by an armed company executive. mark vaughan, son of the company's founder, is also sheriff's deputy. >> this guy definitely was not going to stop. he didn't stop until he was shot. >> reporter: the barbaric nature of the crime has left some residents and others to speculate the act could be tied to something larger and was perhaps influenced by muslim extremists. adding to the theory police say nole nd tried to convert co workers to islam. in a statement to cnn oklahoma's governor warned not to jump to conclusions. the fbi is assisting local police. >> he has a lengthy criminal history according to the oklahoma department of corrections including briefly leading police on a manhunt. the state trooper who had a physical altercation four years
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ago said after she found out what he is accused of doing she wished she would have killed him when she had the chance. >> while he may be released from the hospital he will likely be held until formal charges against him are filed. let's bring in the panel cnn law enforcement analyst. robby, let's start with you. first of all, does this man's behavior paint the picture of somebody who simply snapped or was there a continuum that could have been identifiable and perhaps diagnosable? >> it's really hard to tell at this point. certainly his rantings on facebook suggest he liked aligning himself with a more radical islamic group and perhaps that inspired him in some way to behave in this copy cat like fashion. but when i hear about this man's profile it sounds like he was a
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violent, ill man who somehow came across this radicalized version of islam, adopted it as his own and started acting in a very crazy fashion. the danger is these radicalized islamists may not care who they adopt as these lone rangers. that is where the danger comes in here. >> and what is interesting to me and i want to address this question first. we have been hearing about lone wolf attacks for weeks now. it is surprising to me that either nobody came across this particular facebook page or that, in fact, his co workers didn't think that this behavior was strange or off balance or off putting. if we can't stop somebody so vocal on facebook what does that say about whether, in fact, there is enough eyes on the
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problem? >> it says what you are saying is that there is not an ability to put enough eyes on the problem. you can't expect fbi or police to read people's minds. a guy like this who has been violent on many occasions prior to this one starts putting this kind of garbage on his facebook page and this is america. you have first amendment rights. people put this stuff all the time and authorities don't know if they mean it, are they going to do something with that? are they going to cross the line and commit murder on behalf of these beliefs? and that is the difficulty. right now the fbi is looking at whether there is a way to prove that he intended this as an act of terrorism or is he just a garden variety psycho path who has been on this path for a long time and now it just he has chosen to erupt. >> which when we look at this you look at the acts that are just so clearly insane when you
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think about this are there signs that his co workers could have seen that maybe this man needed to be looked at more closely? >> listen, i am sure this man was behaving in a very bizarre and odd way. i think what we need to remind everyone out there if you see something say something, be on the safe side. if you think somebody is behaving in a slightly odd fashion report it to your boss. report it to your co workers. let the authorities decide whether there is something to be worried about or not. and it sounds like they were concerned about this guy. they fired him as a result of his behaving oddly on the job and that rage could have contributed to what we ultimately saw in the crime of the beheading. >> last question to you, you said that potentially this could be looked at within the spectrum
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of terrorism. what threshold would have to be met by federal investigators to say this was something much more and done in the name of isis and done as opposed to something that was simply just insane? >> if you commit murder it's a terrorist act if the motive is more than just killing somebody. it is because it is on behalf of a religious belief, political belief, some other belief system like that motivates the person to commit murder and that is why they did it. that is very difficult to prove in spite of the fact that he has had this stuff on his facebook page. they will be trying to talk to somebody that knew him to see if he has made indication that he wants to commit jihad, that he is going to show somebody that he intends to do this on behalf of the extremist ideology as opposed to just his murderous ways. >> and looking at the facebook page there are other people that he was friends with.
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you really have to wonder whether, in fact, they perhaps could have predicted this or forewarned of it and reached out to get him the help he needed and perhaps prevent this catastrophe for this poor family. thank you so much. we appreciate you stopping by. and coming up i'm going to be speaking to an officer who tried to arrest him alton nolen in 2010. hear what she has to say. former ohio congressman has passed away. he was injured in a tractor accident. he was running a small 1943 tractor when he lost control causing the tractor to roll over him. traficant was convicted of charges of bribery in 2010. he was 73 years old.
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for hannah graham? are authorities any closer to finding her? >> the search has been underway. the university of virginia kent state football game is going on right now. they were passing out orange ribbons for everybody to wear as a simable of hope. while that was going on they had professional searchers searching the rural areas today. the city of charlottesville is ten square miles. the county here is over 740 square miles, very vast area, grass lands, farm lands, forest lands and mountains. the police chief here in charlottesville was making a call the other day for professionals. listen to this. >> if you are a realtor that serves the region and you know that you are responsible for the sale of a piece of property that
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is vacant, we want to ask you to go back to that property and inspect it. >> all of us have these vacant listings. there is some corners around here that somebody could hide something so i did a look around. we are all just trying to find her. >> and that is so true. you know i met a lady today that has children and she was out searching herself just because she wants to find hannah and it is apparent she wants to help the other parents. the police chief believes that hannah is within this county, all 740 square miles. he doesn't necessarily believe she is outside of the county or between here and galveston. >> what do you think they could charge matthew with? clearly they were going to be holding him. until they find hannah graham it is unclear whether the charges could be more than they would be right now. >> or have the forensics come
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in. this is the jail right here. this is the county jail. he is being held. it is a no bail hold on him. he is in protective custody by himself for his protection and other inmates protection. the charge is abduction with intent to defile. that is kidnapping with the intent to do a sexual act. that is a felony and decades in prison. but the question is will the charges be upgraded? forensics could lead to the upgrading of the charges, finding hannah could lead to upgrading of the charges. that is what we have to look, wait and watch to see if that happens. >> no question in the area where hannah graham disappeared is an area where other women have disappeared. oon investigators looking at those cold cases. we switch to alexandra fields in pennsylvania. 1,000 officers out there.
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frien not found. why are police so confident that he is in that area? >> reporter: well, it has been more than a week and a half since law enforcement decided to focus their search here. they have been saying they are confident that he is in this area. that is because a law enforcement source tells cnn that he came to the woods and made a phone call and called his parents house. the phone rang one time before he hung up. that was more than a week and a half ago. police tell us they continue to see signs he is out here. there have been several sightings and telling us about a few other incidents. >> we have found evidence that there has been tampering with some structures in the area, some abandoned, some vacant. it is yet to be determined whether those items we have located belong to him or someone
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else. >> police tell us they picked up a number of different items they believe belong to frien including an ak 47 but they consider the suspect to be armed and dangerous and believed to have a rifle with him and are warning officers to be aware of the possibility of bobby traps because they say he had been experimenting with home made explosives. >> police say he really does appear to be targeting law enforcement, that he was planning this. we are seeing pictures of him in what looks to be some sort of military garb. what kind of information is that giving police officers who are out there looking for him either about his training or his level of skill? >> we have been talking a lot to pennsylvania state police officers leading this investigation. they haven't wanted to speculate on a motive for the shooting which took place at the state police barics two weeks ago but what they have continued to say is that they believe he is
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targeting law enforcement officials. they said civilians don't seem to be the target of this and they are now pulling out evidence that he may have been preparing for confrontation with law enforcement officers for years. they say they have been searching a hard drive and that that hard drive shows he had done extensive preparation doing research on law enforcement techniques to police man hunts to skills for survival. police are telling us they found diapers out here which they believe belong to frien. it allows someone to stay stationary for long periods of time. >> we appreciate that, the big fear that he may try to lure them into a larger trap. we appreciate your reporting. nearly 800 flights cancelled today in chicago nat in the wake of a bizarre security incident.
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frightening demonstration of how a t shirt laced with chemicals could bring down an airliner. >> four, three, two, one! >> reporter: no ordinary explosion, a clothing bomb. >> so that is a t shirt dipped in explosives that is just blown up and that would bring down a plane. >> explosives expert made it. >> that was flat. that's much thicker than a plane. that would blow through. >> it certainly would. >> he is showing me bomb making technology security experts say al qaeda plans to use and the current security screening would have trouble detecting. >> a bomb of this size containing explosives in that
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quantity going down with approximately that violence would certainly do a great deal of harm to the fuse lodge. >> imagine if that was the skin of an aircraft. it would have blown a hole right through it. >> for years al qaeda's top bomb maker has been aspiring to this, blow up a plane. he has made several sophisticated devices including the under pants bomb targeting a plane landing in detroit christmas day 2009. american sources fear a clothing bomb is al qaeda's next logical evolution. >> i would not be at all surprised if somebody was posting to the united states and from europe wearing something like what i was preparing.
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>> reporter: he shows us a little of how it might be done leaving out some key details. >> how easy is it for an al qaeda bomb maker to do what you are doing here in your lab? >> if he has done a bit of chemistry it shall be very easy. >> reporter: within an hour we test the impregnated t shirt material. >> and that is or could be a t shirt somebody wore on a plane? >> yes, indeed. >> not just explosive but a fire hazard, too. so somebody wearing a t shirt on a plane hard to put out. >> you would not be able to get to him in time to put it out. >> back in the query another test. >> just going to check something. >> four, three, two, one!
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the fight against isis is more than 50 strong. the united kingdom is in. the war planes did drop bombs. the defense ministry says they are ready to strike and now they are authorized to do so by the british parliament. the french air force is making bombing runs and u.s. war planes are taking off and landing on board a u.s. aircraft carrier stationed in the persian gulf. the coalition launched ten separate air strikes against isis targets in syria and iraq. western leaders sigh while the most dramatic advances by isis have been stopped it can be years before the militant group is degraded to the point that it is no longer a threat. the white house did not ask syria's permission to hit isis. it doesn't mean bashar al assad wasn't thrilled to see the bombs falling on those militants. his forces have been fighting
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extremists for years without a lot of success. that has made a lot of his supporters upset. is the u.s. doing president assad a favor by destroying one of his biggest enemies? retired lieutenant governor is cnn military analyst and michael weiss. michael, when you look at the spin that both sides are putting on this, the syrian government is saying the u.s. and their partners are now fighting side by side with our generals. are they helping assad? >> my fear is that we are objectively helping him. we have said quite starkly we are not coordinating with him and didn't ask his permission and nor did he give it. in the last week or so officials have come out including the syrian ambassadors saying we thought obama's speech was great and this is we are effectively now a partner in counter terrorism with the united
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states. the other problem is we are coordinating with the iraq government which is almost entirely controlled by the islamic republic of iran, assad's number one adviser. iraq's natural security a adviser met with assad in damascus and there was chatter about what was going on and assad said we will help with all international counter terrorism measures. >> so here is the issue. you have a multi sided civil r war. you have isis, secular rebels, extremists and the free syrian army. there are so many people who are fighting this, are the insurgents pretty upset right now that the u.s. whether they admit it or not are essentially helping assad wipe out one of his greatest enemies? >> depends on which group
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because if you are the free syrian army you don't have a problem with us taking on isis because you are fighting a group that they have been fighting. if you are the islamic front you probably don't have a problem with it. isis is kind of this one group everybody would like to get rid of for different reasons because it allows them a better playing field than they hope to swoop in and fill that power vacuum for themselves. i don't think anybody is going to lament the demise of isis. >> what is interesting also and we were speaking about this earlier that is assad may be playing a very strategic and very political game here knowing that by allowing isis to fill that vacuum that was created that now you have a coalition that is essentially going to help him. are we suggesting that perhaps he knew exactly what was going to happen that this was incredibly strategic? >> it was interesting for months before this even came about we
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noticed that isis was not being hit very much by the syrian air force or ground forces but concentrating efforts on other groups. it was almost like he was giving isis a free rein because he knew isis was keeping the other ones in check. assad and we were talking earlier, i think we were surprised at how strategic and how smart assad has become. we knew his father had this kind of intelligence but we are very surprised he has developed into the kind of leader he has. >> do you see it that way, as well? he was able to organize this strategically. >> you remember from day one when peaceful protests started erupting in syria they were categorized as terrorists and this extremist plot hashed by the united states. the idea was to essentially play the role of an arsonist and then come to everyone's rescue in the role of a firefighter. that is the sort of strategy.
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remember, the syrian intelligence services and military are trained by the soviets who specialized in this kind of thing. what we understand about jihadism it is incredibly murky. the al qaeda group commander was in iran until a year ago. the iranians say they had him under house arrest which begs the question why did you let him go? iran is assad's number one ally. there is without doubt in my mind damascus has been playing the double game. isis is selling assad's oil back to assad. >> the whole thing is remarkable. you feel like you are just looking at the tip of the iceberg that everything else going on is so deep under the ocean that we can't even really get our heads around it. and we look at now the oklahoma man who is accused of beheading a co worker had a
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firefighters reportedly found 36-year-old brian howard slicing his own throat with a knife. fbi says he was about to take out an faa facility. how do you rate chicago authority's response to this incident that one of their own would be trying to kill himself and threatening aviation? >> the response was good in terms of trying to transfer traffic to other centers. there are 21 of them. it is not spaupding quickly enough. making the transfer to keep the traffic going has been throw and still only 30% to 40% backed up. getting the person out of the facility and containing it was, of course, good. >> do you think that these individuals should be screened more thoroughly especially with the stress, with the life changes? is there routine screening or
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regular screening? >> this is the murky world. is the person really an faa employee or contract employee? in this case they were contract employees. a large percentage of the workforce is compromised of contract employees. they don't have the same kind of screening. basically the faa looks to the private craontractor to do the screening. they look to the contractor for the supervision. >> tom, according to the fbi affidavit the suspect faced transfer to hawaii. do you think the suspect's bosses failed to perhaps analyze or recognize potential trouble? >> i think they may have recognized it but that doesn't mean they thought it would take this form of such a dramatic action of trying to kill himself and sabotaging the facility. so people get transferred and fired, hired, moved, demoted all the time. and they may be disgruntled and
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unhappy and all of that buzz it do but it doesn't mean they will react. >> clearly you don't know intent when the whole thing begins. what does it say to you as an investigator that it was himself that he wanted to harm? >> he had other aspects of wanting to become famous and in a way to bring great attention to himself. he could have cut his own throat at home and nobody would have known. he shuts down aviation for a day in chicago. if it brought all of this attention on himself. the other question i have is it is not that hard to cut your own throat. how did he fail at doing that? i understand he set the fire and sabotaged equipment and shut down aviation. cutting his own throat was too big of an act for him to handle? >> what do airport authorities learn from this particular incident going forward?
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>> i have to learn to see the alarm bells. people did report him coming to work in a basement facility. he was not an employee scheduled to travel with a roller board. for most faa facilities they are secure facilities and you need to be badged to get in. people did notice something was amiss. on the transfers if you are an faa employee you can be transferred for a demotion. they need to look into the transfer basis of this, as well. clearly people saw him coming to work and it looked odd. >> well, people may have been inconvenienced at least travelers nobody was hurt. thank you so much for your time this afternoon. >> you're welcome. the oklahoma man accused of beheading a co worker is finally coming out of sedation. he is awake and talking. you will hear from an oklahoma highway patrol lieutenant who dealt with this very man five
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highway patrol was witness to one of the run ins and wishes she would have killed him at the time. she joins me live. lieutenant randolph, powerful words. what do you mean by that? >> i was just so heard broken when i heard yesterday and found out that the person that was alleged to have done the terrible acts and more was the same person i tangled with four years ago. i had a lot of trooper buddies that asked me, why didn't you kill this guy? at the time, i just never felt like i was -- i wasn't afraid of him. i felt like i was in control of the traffic stop. obviously, i wasn't. i was a lot more confident in my skills than i should have been. and i just felt terrible. i feel guilt. and i don't know that that's something i'll ever be able to overcome. but i do feel guilty. and i don't know. that's all i can say. i just feel guilty about that. >> lieutenant, there is no way you could have known what this man was capable. he did come after you.
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you said you sort of wrestled, he broke one of your fingers. you would have been within your rights to pull the trigger, but you did not. why didn't you? >> well, you know, i stopped him for a paper tag. it looked like he had a fake paper tag. he had a woman and a baby with him. so, you know, i thought i was dealing with a sweet little family. began to visit with this young man, got him in my car, ran his information. he had a couple felony warrants. and, again, i had just come back to work. i had been off for almost the entire year of 2009 after fighting with somebody and had my wrist reconstructed and my elbow worked on. so i don't like to fight with people. i don't even really like to touch them. you know, so i was hoping that i would be able to just talk this guy into doing the right thing. and that just wasn't the case. >> when you think about that, look, officers make split-second decisions every time they come into contact with an individual. was there -- in retrospect, when
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you look back at the conversations you had with him and his demeanor, do you now think of any sort of physical change or mental change he began to undergo as you were questioning him that caused hip to snap like this? >> well, i will say this. of at one point, i walked around the patrol car, and he knew he was going to go to jail. and as i walked around the back of the patrol car, i took my handcuffs out and loaded them in my hand. and i wish now that i had taken my pistol out, because he was a felon, and he was going to go to jail and he knew that. but i had the handcuffs and as he opened that door and i snapped that bracelet on that wrist, he looked me in the eyes and when i told him give me your other hand and he wouldn't, he began to bargain, trying to get out of going to jail. for a brief moment, we looked at each other in the eyes. and it was almost as if i knew that we were fixing to tangle. but i had hemmed him up in the door right there. and i was committed to hoping to
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ride this thing out and end it with him just giving me his other hand and him complying. but, again, if i had -- if there had been any way to know the things that he is alleged to have done a couple of days ago, i would have killed him when i had the opportunity. >> interesting. does it change the way you now police in the future when it does come to stopping people? hindsight is 20/20. >> well, as many times as i've tangled with folks, yeah, it does. you know, every time you -- and i made some mistakes on that traffic stop. i'll be the first to tell you. i think that when you -- when you do this line of work and you're right, we have the ability to take a person's liberty or their life. and we have to make those split-second decisions. obviously, after he broke my finger, after he ran away with one of my bracelets attached to him, he kept looking over his shoulder, because he knew that i wanted to shoot him. but obviously, i couldn't shoot him in the back. but those are the kind of
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things -- i don't know that i'll ever be able to come to reason with the things that he's done. there is no explaining. there is no accepting what he did. >> if he were standing in front of you right now, very quickly, what would you tell him? >> i would just tell him how -- i would ask him, how could you have done that? how could you do something like that? i told him the morning that i took him to jail, you know, we had that 12-hour manhunt and we took him to jail the next morning. and i told him, you could have very easily been killed last night. >> could so could his family. >> right. >> thank you so much. we'll be back after this. past. d triee i hadn't been successful. quitting smoking this time was different because i talked to my doctor and i... i got a prescription for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it was important to me that chantix was a non-nicotine pill. the fact that it reduced the urge to smoke helped me get that confidence that i could do it. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood,
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ladies, i hate to do it. but some terrible, disappointing news for all of you holding out hope that perhaps george clooney would stay a bachelor forever. he's off the market. there he is on his way to make an honest woman out of amal alamuddin. he did it the way george clooney does anything. he did it in big-it time movie star style. here is cnn's erin mclaughlin. >> reporter: hollywood couldn't have scripted or cast this wedding any better. george clooney and his now wife amal alamuddin were married, according to his publicist in a private ceremony right here along venice's grand canal. they were married in a lavish hotel, and the guest list was
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star-studded, including bono and emily blunt and matt damon, cindy crawford among others. the paparazzi were swarming all over the place in speed boats, hoping to catch a glimpse of the happy couple. this was a series of really elaborate events that began on friday. george clooney arrived with amal, fittingly aboard a boat called "amore"and then last night there was a his and hers bachelor and bachelorette parties. george clooney celebrated at one of his favorite restaurants and then tonight the private ceremony which they officially became man and wife. and people here really celebrating. couldn't be happier for the couple. >> erin mclaughlin, cnn, venice, italy. and, of course, we wish them incredible luck and incredible love. we end this hour with a birth announcement. chelsea clinton became a new mom late last night, delivering a baby girl. she tweeted, quote, mark and i are full of love on gratitude as we celebrate the birth of our
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daughter charlotte clinton mezvinsky. chelsea is well and glowing. mark is bursting with pride. that's is for us. i'm deborah feyerick in new york. "smerconish" starts now. i'm michael smerconish. thanks for joining me. isis propaganda. successful? looks like it. they're forcing western hostages to spout their party line. we'll get into it. racism on the decline. that's a good thing. but partyism is on the rise. what's that? it's discrimination based on party affiliation. a fascinating topic. and the politics of fear could sway the midterm elections. congress won't vote on going after isis, but with the launch of air strikes, candidates are using political ads to scare voters. let's get started.