chihuahua who thinks he's a cat and a wiener dog in a wheelchair, i frankly have never been more honored. i'm very pleased. thank you. it is an honor. at least on the "riduculist" tonight. thanks for watching. thanks for watching. "cnn tonight" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. >> great to see you, don. i'm alisyn camerota. how could this happen? it turns out the man who jumped the fence and barreled through the entrance of the white house got deeper through the first floor of the executive mansion than we previously knew. where was the secret service, and what happens now? >> and what about isis? new fears of a massacre. isis fighters are within two miles of the syrian kurdish see of kobani. officials there are desperately calling for help saying blood will run in the streets if isis takes control. and this could be the break they're looking for. police say the arrest of a suspect in the disappearance of that university of virginia student has led to a break in another case, the death of a female college student five years ago.

do police have a serial killer on their hands? and is the nfl's sex abuse scandal zbrogrowing? a prominent attorney says her client has filed a police report claiming she was raped by a player who has not yet been named but who played the very next day. we're going to hear from that attorney. but we begin at the white house. and a new report that the armed man who jumped the fence on september 19th not only got through the entrance but overpowered a secret service officer. the intruder then ran through the main floor before he was tackl tackled. so let's go right away to senior white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, what do we know? >> reporter: alisyn, sources have confirmed that omar gonzalez, that fence jumper here at the white house, made it much farther inside the building than previously acknowledged by the secret service. according to congressional and law enforcement sources, once gonzalez entered the white house he managed to get past a secret service officer, or overpowered that officer at the north portico door right behind me, went past the stairs leading beyond the first family

residence. you can see it in this diagram here. and then ran into the east room of the white house before he was tackled. just as he was trying to head inside the green room. now, no shots were fired inside or outside of the white house. and according to a memo that will be used by lawmakers on the house oversight committee at a hearing on this tomorrow, there were multiple lapses that allowed gonzalez to make it in that far. >> jim-u say multiple lapses. how many? >> reporter: they're saying about four different layers of protection broke down. the one we hear about just this evening is something called the crash button. that crash button, had it been activated, would have instantly locked down the white house. the question tonight is why that button was not pushed. and this new information, we should point out, it runs completely counter to what the secret service initially said on the night of the fence-jumping incident. a spokesman at that time told reporters that gonzalez was apprehended just inside the north portico door. this is definitely a very different story. and the director of the secret service, we should point out, julia pearson, she's scheduled

to appear before the house oversight committee tomorrow morning. much of that hearing will be out in a closed session, but some of it will be in front of the cameras, and she's likely to be asked about this incident as well as other factors leading into overall white house security with the secret service. >> there was another incident we're learning details about in 2011 where shots were fired and they actually hit the white house. >> reporter: that's right. that is something that came up at the white house briefing earlier today, and white house officials, the white house press secretary was very frank in saying that the president and first lady were very concerned about this. you can expect the secret service director to be asked about this as well. and basically, in that case according to the "washington post," secret service officers upon hearing shots being fired in the vicinity of the white house, they were given a standdown order and were told at one point that no shots were fired. and we of course did not learn until days later that an usher

found a bullet hole in one of the windows here at the white house and he alerted staff, and that is how the president and first lady found out about it. they were of course furious about this. and this is of course one of several incidences here at the white house that have raised very big questions about what the secret service is doing over here and whether or not they're providing adequate protection for the first family. the white house said earlier today the president does have confidence in the secret service but expect this director to be tested big-time at this hearing tomorrow, alisyn. >> yes, there are big questions that need to be answered. jim acosta, thanks so much. because in that second incident that he just talked about sasha was home during those bullets flying. >> who knows what the heck is going on here. let's bring in now chris schweker, former fbi member. people call it an identity crisis but it appears there are lapses and something is going on, somebody is not in control of what they should be doing. >> they've always been the gold standard when it comes to personal protection but i think

they're struggling with being assimilated within the decht homeland security. they used to be the marquee agency within the treasury department, and now they're just one of 30-some-odd agencies within homeland security. second, they're trying to do a lot of things. they want to do cyber crimes. they're doing economic crimes. they're doing credit card fraud. counterfeiting. when their core mission really is personal protection. >> but the people at the white house with all due respect are not all doing that. the people at the white house are in charge of the president's security and keeping the white house safe. those are done in washington or around the country in other places. so then why not the focus on the procedures and the right amount of manpower at the white house? >> clearly this is a booming lapse in security. both in public security and private security. sometimes you see people get complacent if they're not tested. and i wonder if they've run tests on their own security within the white house security scheme because that's the best way to determine vulnerabilities in your security system. >> i just want to ask you

something. i don't know if you saw on the "the situation room," the chairman of the house oversight committee of national security, jason chafe-its told our wolf blitzer this this afternoon. listen and then we'll talk about it. >> what is the protocol? why is it that the white house -- i'm sorry, the secret service, they issue a statement that said that the intruder, the guy who hopped the fence had no weapon? ends up he did have a weapon. why is it they said he stopped at the door but our whistle blowers are telling us he went much further into the white house? why is it they brag about -- i say brag, but they tout the idea that there is tremendous restraint by these officers. i want to see overwhelming force, repel anybody who's trying to get into the white house. i don't think that's good leadership. >> that is a great question. and as jim mentioned, there's a hearing tomorrow with the committee. but the question is why wasn't that person shot or taken down or stunned or tased and got all the way into the white house past the entrance to the residence, into the east room? i mean, that is clearly a problem.

jason chaffetz has a point there. >> this is a failure in leadership somewhere in that hierarchy. i mean, clearly this should never have happened. it's a major security lapse. and again, i go back to just basic security 101. and that is you test yourself. that which is not inspected and tested will deteriorate. >> mr. sweker, let's talk about that other incident from 2011, where a guy put up across from the white house, rolled down his window, and fired shots outside outside his window with a semi-automatic i believe gun and seven of those bullets hit the white house. this is while sasha was home. what can the secret service ever do about that? >> yeah, that's a lot tougher. that means to prevent that type of incident you have to have setbacks at the white house, at whatever building you're trying to protect, that we haven't been -- we just have not embraced as -- we want the white house to be accessible at the

same time we want to protect the first family and everybody in it. so that's a much tougher security challenge than what happened with the intruder coming. that's just inexcusable. this i could almost understand. i mean, that's just a much tougher security challenge. >> so for these hearings last question. do you think that they're being spread too thin? what's the answer for the secret service? >> i think they need to refocus on the core mission and that is protection. they can do other things but they must do protection. that's the core mission of the secret service. if they have time to do the other things, that's fine. but those other things are also -- there is some redundancy with these federal agencies. a lot of them are working the same violations. someone probably should look at that. >> all right. thank you very much, sir. we appreciate it. we want to talk more about this security breach at the white house. it happens as the u.s. military takes action against isis, and there are repeated calls for terror leaders for lone wolf attacks in the united states. and that makes it even more

important for police in oklahoma to conduct thorough investigations into the beheading of one woman and the threat by a man who behead a co-worker. we're joined now by cnn's david mattingly. david, incredibly, two stories in oklahoma today involving beheadings. let's start with the first. the case of alton nolen, suspected of beheading a woman there. you spent the day talking to people at nolen's mosque. what did they tell new. >> reporter: well, calling it his mosque is not actually accurate according to the people who worship there. they say he started attending back in may and was only sporadically there. and while he was there he had virtually no contact with anyone. i real face in the crowd, they said, for people that were coming to pray there. there was one man that i met, a former navy s.e.a.l., who worships there. he actually had contact with nolen. and it was a strange incident in which he confronted nolen for putting his koran on the floor, which is something, a sign of disrespect and something that someone who has any sort of training in the muslim faith

would know not to do at a very, very early age if they're learning this religion. so he knew at that point that nolen did not know a lot about islam. and that he observed him a little bit further and said that while the sermon was going on he didn't seem to be listening, in fact just seemed to be caught up in his own thoughts. but he would sit in the back and disappear quickly when the sermon was over. >> and david, the investigators found images of bin laden and what may be a beheading on his facebook page. is he facing any terrorism charges? >> reporter: no terrorism charges here in oklahoma from the authorities here in moore. they are pursuing this as a first-degree murder case and an assault with a deadly weapon case. what they were looking into motivation, they say that nolen has been very cooperative, meaning he is answering all of their questions, telling them exactly why he did what he did, and how he did it.

so they're saying they're having no problem moving forward with this investigation but they're not finding any sort of connection to any religious motivation. they say what set him off here was the fact that he said he was oppressed while he was here on the job. and upset because he had been denied a raise. of course he'd been disruptive on the job, and that we're told is what led to him being fired. he left here, went back to his apartment, where officers presumed he picked up his weapon and came here, killed one of the ladies that worked here, and then wounded another. >> okay. there's another case we want to talk about. oklahoma city police are confirming now that jacob murithi was arrested and detained on a terrorism charge friday after making a reference about beheading a female co-worker. he told his co-worker that he was affiliated with isis. so what do we know about that case? >> reporter: this one is really strange, don. this happened back earlier in september. a woman who works at a nursing home says a man who was a

supervisor there threatened her, threatened to cut her head off, said he was associated with isis. she went to police, filed a complaint. they sent a warrant out for his arrest. she approached the police again after this incident here in moore happened. and you can bet they're taking this a whole lot more seriously now when it might have been she thought -- originally it might have been his dry sense of humor. but now she's taking it very seriously, as are police. they're looking at this as a case of terrorism, as being motivated by his connections to isis and to their beliefs. that in itself is being pursued as a case of terrorism. but what happened here in moore is not. >> thank you, david mattingly. reporting from moore, oklahoma. the only way to describe it is just bizarre. >> absolutely. >> it's just unbelievable. >> trienting. >> up next we're going to talk about a complicated question many people are asking. are muslim countries more violent than others? we're going to discuss that with our guests.

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defenders of islam insist it is a peaceful religion. others disagree and point to the primitive treatment in muslim countries and other minorities. >> so let's discuss this now. we're joined by reza aslan, a scholar of religions, professor at university of california riverside and the author of "zealot: the life and times of jesus of nazareth." let's talk about this because it's a very interesting conversation every time we have it. before we get into this discussion i want to play with you this clip from bill maher's show just this friday night. here it is. >> president obama keeps insisting that isis is not islamic. well, maybe they don't practice the muslim faith the same way he does. but if vast numbers of muslims across the world believe, and they do, that humans deserve to die for merely holding a different idea or drawing a cartoon or writing a book or

eloping with the wrong person, not only does the muslim world have something in common with isis, it has too much in common with isis. there's so much talk -- you can applaud. sure. [ applause ] >> he went on for a good five or six minutes about that, talking about how women are -- circumcision for women, not respecting the rights of women, not respecting the rights of gay people. and what's your reaction? and then we'll talk. >> well, i like bill maher. i've been on his show a bunch of times. he's a comedian. but you know, frankly, when it comes to the topic of religion, he's not very sophisticated in the way that he thinks. i mean, the argument about the female genital mutilation being an islamic problem is a perfect example of that. it's not an islamic problem. it's an african problem. >> well, wait, wait, wait. hold on a second, reza. because he says it's a muslim country problem. he says that in somalia -- >> yeah, but that's -- yeah. and that's actually empirically factually incorrect. it's a central african problem.

eritrea has almost 90% female genital mutilation. it's a christian country. ethiopia has 75% female genital mutilation. it's a christian country. nowhere else in the muslim, muslim majority states is female genital mutilation an issue. but again, this is the problem. is that you make these fassel arguments that women are mistreated in the muslim world. that's certainly true in iran and saudi arabia. do you know that muslims have elected seven women as their heads of state in those muslim majority countries? how many women -- >> but reza, be honest, though. for the most part it is not a free and open society for women in those states. >> well, it's not in iran. it's not in saudi arabia. it certainly is in indonesia and malaysia. it certainly is in bangladesh. it certainly is in turkey. i mean, again, this is the problem is that you're talking about a religion of 1.5 billion people and certainly it becomes

very easy to just simply paint them all with a single brush by saying, well, in saudi arabia they can't drive and so therefore that is somehow representative of islam. it's representative of saudi arabia. >> but hold on. i think that bill maher's point is that these aren't extremists. we often talk about extremists and that we should crack down onists and why aren't muslims speaking out about extremists. in saudi arabia when women can't vote and can't drive and need permission from their husband, that's not extremists. why aren't we talking more about -- that's commonplace. why don't we talk more about the commonplace roles happening in these countries? >> it's extremist when compared to the rights and responsibilities of women, muslim women around the world. it's an extremist way of dealing -- >> but it's not extremist in that country in saudi arabia. it's the norm. >> oh, no, it's not. i mean, look, saudi arabia is one of the most if not the most extremist muslim country in the world. in the month that we've been

talking about isis and their terrible actions in iraq and syria saudi arabia, our closest ally, has beheaded 19 people. nobody seems to care about that because saudi arabia sort of preserves our national interests. you know, this is the problem, is that these kinds of conversations that we're having aren't really being had in any kind of legitimate way. we're not talking about women in the muslim world. we're using two or three examples to justify a generalization. that's actually the definition of bigotry. >> fair enough. let's listen to benjamin netanyahu at the united nations today. >> so when it comes to their ultimate goals, hamas is isis and isis is hamas. and what they share in common all militant islamists share in common. >> so reza, the question at the bottom of the screen that everyone is looking at. does islam promote violence? >> islam doesn't promote violence or peace. islam is just a religion, and like every religion in the world

it depends on what you bring to it. if you're a violent person, your islam, your judaism, your christianity, your hinduism is going to be violent. there are marauding buddhist monks in myanmar slaughtering women and children. does buddhism promote violence? of course not. people are violent or peaceful. and that depends on their politics, their social world, the way that they see their communities, the way they see themselves. >> so reza, you don't think there's anything more -- the justice system in muslim countries you don't think is somehow more primitive or subjune gates women more than in other countries? >> did you hear what you just said? you said in muslim countries. i just told you that indonesia women are absolutely 100% equal to men. in turkey they have had more female representatives, more female heads of state in turkey than we have in the united states. >> yes, but in pakistan -- >> stop saying things like muslim countries -- >> in pakistan women are still being stoned to death. >> and that's a problem for pakistan. >> so in other words, you -- i

just want to be clear on what your point is because i thought you and bill maher were saying the same thing. your point is that muslim countries are not to blame. there is nothing particular, there's no common thread in muslim countries, you can't paint with a broad brush that somehow their justice system or sharia law or what they're doing in terms of stoning and female mutilation is different than in other countries like western countries? >> stoning and mutilation and those barbaric practices should be condemned and criticized by everyo everyone. the actions of individuals and societies and countries like iran, like pakistan, like saudi arabia must be condemned because they don't belong in the 21st century. but to say muslim countries as though pakistan and turkey are the same, as though indonesia and saudi arabia are the same, as though somehow what is happening in the most extreme forms of these repressive countries, these autocratic countries is representative of what's happening in every other

muslim country is frankly, and i use this word seriously, stupid. so let's stop doing that. >> okay, reza. i want you to listen to benjamin netanyahu again. this is actually the one i wanted you to hear. >> yeah, the isis. >> but our hopes and the world's hopes for peace are in danger. because everywhere we look militant islam is on the march. it's not militants. it's not islam. it's militant islam. and typically, its first victims are other muslims, but it spares no one. >> he's making a clear distinction there. he says it's not militants, it's not islam, it's militant islam. do you understand his distinction there? is he correct? >> well, he's correct in talking about militant islam being a problem. he is absolutely incorrect in talking about isis equalling

hamas. that's just ridiculous. no one takes him seriously when he says things like that. and frankly, it's precisely why under his leadership israel has become so incredibly isolated from the rest of the global community. those kinds of statements are illogical, they're irrational, they're so obviously propagandistic. in fact, he went so far as to then bring up the nazis, which has become kind of a verbal tick for him whenever he brings up either hamas or isis. again, these kinds of oversimplifications i think only cause more danger. there is a very real problem. isis is a problem. al qaeda is a problem. these militant islamic groups like hamas, like hezbollah, like the taliban have to be dealt with. but it doesn't actually help us to deal with them when instead of talking about rational conflicts, rational criticisms of a particular religion we instead so easily slip into bigotry by simply painting everyone with a single brush, as we have been doing in this conversation, mind you. >> well, we're just asking the questions, reza.

and you're answering. i think you answered very fairly, and we appreciate it. thank you, reza aslan. >> we appreciate your perspective. >> my pleasure. >> and helping everyone understand your perspective. 126 muslim leaders from around the world have sent a letter to the leader of isis calling on his group to stop harming people. the letter states isis has misinterpreted islam from a religion of mercy to one of brutality and murder. >> we are joined by the national executive director by the national council of islamic relations and one of the signers of the letter. mr. awad, thanks for being here. what did you say in the letter? >> thank you very much for having me. the letter is a clear case against the ideology, behavior, conduct, program of isis. we told them what every muslim will tell them, that isis is misrepresenting the religion of islam, isis is in violation of the islamic teachings, isis is

killing people in the name of islam and the koran. the text clearly prohibits the killing of innocent people. isis is murder iing non-combatants. islam says clearly to save the lives of non-combatants. isis is killing non-muslims. christians and other faith people. and islam protects those minorities. isis is preventing women from being educated and from taking her rights. and we condemn them for that. and we cite in more than 28 pages addressing 24 points where isis violates islam clearly. now, keep in mind that the scholars who drafted this letter are first-class scholars, legitimate leaders and grand muftis from all over the world. they have made a case by

condemning isis and dismantling their religious argument whether in the action they take on the ground or by their propaganda and recruiting young people who are deceived by their symbolism and the religious texts that they have been using in their videos and in their publications. >> nihad awad, thank you very much. we appreciate you joining us here on cnn this evening. >> we hope they get your message. thank you. president obama admits his administration underestimated the growing threat from isis. up next we'll discuss the implication with presidential historian douglas brinkley. (male announcer) it's happening.

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president obama admits his administration underestimated the growing strength of isis while at the same time overestimating the ability of iraqi troops to fight off the terror group. he made those comments last night on "60 minutes." >> let's talk about all this with douglas brinkley. he's a presidential historian. douglas, great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> good to have you on set here. so let's play a clip for everyone of the president talking about how his administrati administration, not he exactly, underestimated the threat from isis.

>> i think our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper, has acknowledged that they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. >> he didn't say that -- just say that we underestimated isil. he said we overestimated the ability and the will of our allies, the iraqi army, to fight. >> that's true. that's absolutely true. >> and these are the people that we're now expecting to carry on the fight. >> not exactly inspiring rhetoric. >> no. poor jim clapper kind of got thrown under the bus with that one. the president really is blaming the intelligence. and he very well might be right. but i think he needs to take a little bit of a buck stops here, that i goofed up on the intelligence. i think that's what he wanted to say, but he kind of hedged it a little bit there. >> because we went back. cnn went back and looked at the administration officials over and publicly, at least over a year they have been warning the president about the danger of isis. they've been telling the

american public about it. >> i remember when james carney did a hole spiel about worrying about isis. and i think the president had his, if you like, mission accomplished moment. remember the banner with george w. bush. i think when he did that "new yorker" article and called isis the jv, that's going to haunt him. >> he said he wasn't talking about -- this is what he said. he said, "i wasn't talking about isis speck lspecifically but gr like isis." but still isis is under that umbrella. >> yeah. it's not as bad as a visual of a mission accomplished banner. but nonetheless, isis is not the jv. we're ratcheting up for war in syria. >> did he throw the intelligence community under the bus? because he said i didn't do it. the buck stops with me but that's not what i meant. >> well, we're really just basically saying a bunch of faulty intelligence, guys, on really big issues, and where's the solution? where's the -- when's the good intelligence coming? are we still relying on faulty intelligence? you know, isis has done a number

on us. the psychological damage that the american people in the world has suffered by those beheadings, we're now all like wanting to get into action and the president's trying to calm the waters but he may have to call congress in session and have a vote -- >> i'm curious about that. given that people are so afraid of isis and you think the president should calm the waters, do you think there's a need for presidential rhetoric that talks about this existential threat and talks about what america means? maybe i've been watching too much of the roosevelts on pbs, but that sort of presidential speech about we will survive this, we are better than this. have you heard that kind of speech? >> i think instead of going "60 minutes" the president needs to primetime address. i know that's a little old-fashioned, but it still breaks through. let the networks cover it and explain what's going on. look, we're in a political season. i understand that. the republicans may be playing some politics with beating up on president obama to do more in syria and -- but we're dealing

with a lot of semantics. what are boots on the ground? what are wars? are drones part of a war? i don't think we have enough clarity. and i think that's the job of the president. we had containment in the cold war and it had different phases. george cannon's containment and then paul nixon's containment strategy. we need a containment strategy plus on syria that needs to be really articulated to the american people. >> i'm going to play another bite from "60 minutes" because he was asked is the u.s. carrying its weight with the anti-isis effort. here's what he said. >> that's always the case. america leads. we are the indispensable nation. we have capacity no one else has. our military is the best in the history of the world. and when trouble comes up anywhere in the world they don't call beijing, they don't call moscow. they call us. that's the deal. that's how they roll.

and that's what makes this america. >> that's more rhetoric. >> yeah. i thought that was great. the indistense penceable nation echoes american exceptionalism. and anytime you say our troops are the best in the world you're starting to build a constituency for your foreign policy. >> but it's tough. americans are war weary but we still have to protect ourselves. thank you, douglas. >> great to see you. coming up, isis is on the move. there are fears of a massacre in a syrian kurdish city tonight. just how is the u.s. dealing with all of this? we'll explain.

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terrorists take control of kobani. >> joining us now lieutenant colonel rick francona, cnn military analyst and former u.s. military attache in syria. and lieutenant colonel james reese, ceo of tiger swan and a retired delta force commander. you two are military men. what do you make of the commander in chief saying the intelligence community underestimated isis? did he underestimate isis when -- last year when we were talking about the iraqis and they were asking for assistance earlier? >> i think we underestimated isis's will to fight. and i think that's what general clapper said. we've known about isis for a long time. and you could watch their development as they sent soldiers, they sent fighters from iraq into syria. they created what was al qaeda in syria. then they joined to form isis. we watched that all happen. i just think we were surprised by the fierceness and the will of them to take on these armed forces. >> were you surprised? >> yes. surprised a bit. but like we talked about the other day, i still think they're

punks. i really do. unfortunately, when you have the bully on the playground who's got a bigger bat than you do, that's a problem. >> and it comforts us to hear that you think they're not as larger than life as they've been depicted. however, they are two miles tonight away from this city of kobani. why aren't air strikes stopping their forward march? >> here's the problem with air strikes. what everyone's got to understand is when a bomb goes boom on the ground there's an explosion. and that explosion has shrapnel that's going everywhere. when you see these technical vehicles that are beside vehicles, where there's people sitting, that becomes a problem. and there's no one on the ground to call that. we don't have ay-130s in there, we don't have warthogs doing close support. we are dropping bomgz bombs on fixed known targets. >> you can't do this unless you have positive control because all you'll do is kill a bunch of friendly forces. i understand the situation up will in kobani is desperate.

>> what happens if they take that city? >> there's going to be a massacre. >> if they take it they'll control all the way from raqqa to the turkish border. >> well, there is an enclave of syrian kurds along that border, and if you look at what they're doing, this is very well planned on the part of isis because they're cutting it in half. and then they will roll up the two enclaves. if you were a military guy looking at this, this is how you would do it. the problem is once they take over what will happen? now, we know a lot of them are departing and taking refuge in turkey. but the ones that remain are at risk of being slaughtered. >> you said they are splitting it. what does that mean? >> so what we've done now is isis has moved north up from raqqa about 35 to 48 miles. they've gained a foothold and they split the kurdish -- the kurdish enclaves. they split them in half. so now that the kurds don't have any interlocking ability to help each other and they turn left and right, and now they're able to roll up people. >> and they're surround them and put them under siege.

there will be no resupply, no ammunition, no food, no water. it'll be several days and then they'll just roll -- >> for air strikes that means you can't because there are civilians or -- >> yeah. they're too close. we call this troops in contact. and when you have troops in contact you have to have forward air control. otherwise, as he says, everybody gets killed. >> i want to play for you cnn's arwa damon did a fascinating interview with an ex-isis fighter who claims that they were prepared for the u.s. air strikes. listen to this. >> translator: they almost entirely emptied out the headquarters. some equipment they hid in civilian neighborhoods. some they hid underground. >> so you predicted it. you both said this, that that's what they would do. he says that's what they did do. >> this is what happens when you announce that we are going to be conducting at some point in the future air strikes in syria.

what we should have said was last night we began air strikes in syria. so they've had two weeks to move everything. so i don't think it's any surprise to anybody that they've hidden this stuff in the civilian areas. that's right out of the playbook. >> but i'm just curious, how do you get to be an ex-isis fighter? i didn't know they let you leave the organization. >> well, that's a great point, that there's an ex-isis fighter. there's also a report that isis has had to change their tactics. instead of moving in columns down the road to the attack, they've now had to move vehicles out one by one. going back to your question, that shows me there's some disruption going on. when the might of the u.s. for all the coalition -- when there's forces from the sky falling on top of you, it's not a lot of fun. >> ground troops. is that where this is leading? >> absolutely. >> ground troops? >> i think so. but your point is well taken, that there is dissension in the ranks. >> good to hear. >> thank you very much. other subject tonight. the nfl. the publicity nightmare for the nfl appears to be getting worse

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well, earlier today attorney gloria allred addressed the nfl's response to a letter she hand-delivered to their office regarding her client's accusation of rape by a current nfl player. >> let's find out more about this. gloria allred joins us now. gloria, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> what are you alleging this nfl player did to your client on september 20th? >> well, my client is a young woman, and she alleges that on september 20th that she was raped, that in fact she reported it very shortly thereafter to the police in the jurisdiction in which it occurred, and that the police then indicated after she, by the way, went to the hospital, had a rape kit taken, that in fact the nfl player was contacted, that he came to the police station, that he was

accompanied by a representative of his nfl team and that the next day the nfl player was allowed to play with his nfl team. >> but why wasn't he arrested? if she had a rape kit done, why wasn't he arrested at the police station? >> law enforcement would have to answer that. but all i can tell you is it may be that all of the results of the rape kit are not available yet to law enforcement. but having said that, my focus is on the nfl because the nfl has a personal conduct policy. and here it is, it's on the internet, and anybody can see it. and it says clearly that even if there is no arrest that the nfl requires its players, requires its clubs, requires any employee to promptly report an incident to the nfl commissioner, to the

nfl. that obviously didn't happen, alisyn, because last friday the nfl issued a statement to the press saying they had no information about this incident that was six days after it was reported to the police. so my question is why didn't they have a report of this incident? and what are they going to do now that it was not promptly reported to them? are they going to take any disciplinary action against the player, against the club -- >> but gloria, they have responded to your letter, though. they responded to your letter and here's what they said. they said they're taking this very seriously. they said they appreciate your concern for your client's privacy as well as your point that a criminal investigation is pending. "however, we recently retained lisa friel, who spent more than two decades prosecuting sexual assault in the manhattan district attorney's office. we would certainly make miss friel available to interview your client on a confidential and appropriate basis to obtain more information so we can follow up on this matter." so will your client meet with

lisa friel? >> well, of course we just got that e-mail from the nfl 30 minutes before my press conferen conference. and definitely, my client is going to consider that. however, let us not be distracted by the play that the nfl is making right here. they have failed to answer any of the questions that i have asked them. they have failed to say what they're going to do to enforce their personal conduct policy, which appears to have been violated because they weren't notified. have they said what kind of investigation they're going to do, what kind of action they're going to take? they purport to care about victims of sexual assault. but you know, actions are louder than words, as the old saying goes. so what in fact are they going to do? we'd like answers to our questions. my client is going to keep her mind open about speaking with the nfl. we also are going to be speaking with law enforcement.

and we want to make sure that if she does speak with them it's at the right time and it does not have an adverse impact on the investigation -- >> of course. but gloria, why aren't you identifying the player or the team? >> well, i think it's the job of the nfl to know, and i think they do know. and the reason i say that is because they did not ask me in this very short note from the nfl who is the player, who is the team. they didn't ask. and i think that means they did know. and if they don't know they should know and they should find out. because i also want to know what is their policy. do they approve of an nfl player being allowed to play a game with his nfl team after there's an allegation of rape made to law enforcement? that's what i'd like to know. >> gloria, listen, i have to run. but they are saying they will

cooperate with the legal investigation. just quickly, maybe they don't want to, because of the seriousness of the charges, i'm just asking, maybe they don't want to try it in the media and they just want to do it -- go through the legal process. >> well, you know, that's fine -- >> we have to go quickly. >> -- to go through the legal process, don, but their own personal conduct policy says that they want to know, that it is the players' duty and the clubs' duty to report to them even if there is -- >> i'm up against a break, gloria. >> let us know what happens, gloria, please. >> we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] we all think about life insurance.

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bad news, don. >> what? >> for all the ladies. some men, i suppose. >> i was going to say some gentlemen as well. >> who were holding out hope for perfection. we're sorry to report that george clooney is officially off the market. >> we're going to have details about his ceremony and photos and a lot more coming up in our next hour on "cnn tonight." next hour on "cnn tonight." which starts right now. >> we'll see you in just a few moments. good evening. top of the hour. cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. >> and i'm alisyn camerota. it's 11:00 on the east coast. in virginia could it be the big break police have been wait forget? they say at rest of a suspect in the disappearance of a university of virginia student has led to a development in the death of a female college student from five years ago. do they have a serial killer on their hands? >> we're learning new details tonight on the scuffleha