>> well, i appreciate -- i have to cut it off. i'm sorry. i'm out of time. i have to get to the next program. i appreciate your time and in put. i want to remind you that anderson cooper has that interview with the woman named louise who is the partner of the patient at the center of the ebola crisis under quarantine and spoke with anderson. his program will be on live at 8:00 eastern and my colleague wolf starts right now. hello, i'm wolf blitzer, it's 1:00 p.m. in washington, 9:00 ins moscow, wherever you're watching from around the world thanks for joining us. we begin with a lot of breaking news. the intense effort under way right now to make sure the first diagnosed ebola case here in the united states does not spread. here's what we know right now. a federal official tells cnn authorities -- tells cnn

authorities are questioning as many as 100 people in the dallas, texas, area who may have had contact with a patient 42-year-old thomas eric duncan. the official says more than a dozen people had direct contact with duncan and they are now being closely monitored. in addition, four of his family members have been ordered to stay inside their home for the next 17s days to make sure they haven't been infected. duncan is from liberia. he went to dallas to visit his girlfriend. "the new york times" says a few days leaving monroe va, he had direct contact with a pregnant woman in liberia, a pregnant woman with ebola. duncan took a brussels airlines flight from monrovia to brussels and after a seven-hour layover in the belgium capital he boarded 951 to here, to washington's dulles airport. after a three-hour layover in the washington, d.c., area, he took united 822 to dallas,

texas. we're covering the story from all the angles. dr. sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent, at the cdc headquarters, the centers for disease control in atlanta, and joining us from new york, dr. alexander vantullcan, infectious disease specialist. sanjay, i want to first play for you and our viewers, what anderson cooper told us a little while ago about the girlfriend of this individual thomas eric duncan, because it's pretty shocking to hear had her story. listen to anderson. >> once he started antibiotics he started having a lot of diarrh diarrhea, making a lot of trips to the bathroom. he was not vomiting according to louise. but he was, you know, sweating a lot during the night in her bed. the sheets are still on the bed, she told me. >> in the apartment where she called from. >> in the apartment. the sheets he sweated on still on the bed, the pillows, the

towels she has put into a plastic bag, still in the apartment. she's not clear what to do with them. the cdc has visited her apartment, she tells me, have told her not to go outside, that she's quarantined. she has to stay inside for 21 days. she's taking her own temperature every hour. she says she's taking the temperature of the young people in the apartment with her. but she's clearly very concerned. >> obviously concerned, indeed. sanjay, that's very, very worrisome. the material this woman has told anderson. >> yeah. i mean look, some of this is pretty troubling, wolf. i think not the least of which is the idea that, you know, essentially for four days, it sounds like roughly, mr. duncan was living out of this apartment, he was quite sick it sounds like, and just the towels and the bed sheets, these things that could potentially have some of the ebola virus on them, have not been cleaned. it doesn't sound like at least she's received instruction or understood the instructions clearly in terms of what to do with that. i can tell you just down the

street here from the cdc is emory where the first two patients came from, and we got an idea of how they handle the waste from the rooms where these patients were cared for. it's, you know, involves a pretty strict procedure. bring in biocontainment bags, special bags, all the materials go in there and then eventually the stuff is incinerated. they take no chances. states have different regulations on this sort of thing, but in this case sounds like she's simply not going in that room. the sheets are still on the bed, the towels still there. from a humanity standpoint that shouldn't be the case. i will tell you, wolf, even since anderson first reported that and we've been talking about it, the cdc has commented that medical contractors are going on their way to the apartment to address this very issue and to make sure there's better communication with her as well. but, you know, it's obviously a frightening situation for her. there's nothing to suggest that she is sick or the other people in the apartment are sick, but

it is, obviously, troubling. >> dr. van tullcan, why haven't they been there the past several days taking away the sheets, pillow cases? she says he was sweating profusely throughout the night, before he went to the hospital. she says he was suffering from diarrhea. this is before he went to the hospital. he went to the hospital. he was vomiting. yet they sent him back home with some antibiotics. this is a horrible blunder i see unfolding here, doctor. >> i agree, wolf. i think this is absolutely extraordinary. he's now been in hospital for a few days, they've had a long time to get on top of this. as sanjay says it doesn't sound like they're treating her in a humane way. not only given her instructions how to deal with a set of items none of the rest of us would want to handle without a hazmat suit on, doesn't sound like they made it easy to leave the house. she should be brought food, book, clean linen because she needs clean linen.

the kids need video games, a tv, phones, whatever to keep them in the house. you can do that well. you don't need legal orders if they educate people. doesn't sound like that's happening here. >> sanjay, you've been all over this horrible situation. explain why only now medical contractors from the cdc, they're going over there to clean up this place, to deal with this situation. he's been in the hospital a few days. he's been diagnosed the firsts case in the united states with ebola. and now here in the united states of america, this kind of situation is unfolding. seems like it's so -- it's hard to believe this could be happening? >> it is hard to believe and there aren't good explanations here. we've asked for some response and what we heard back is, we're going to take care of it. we're sending these medical contractors out to clean up this waste and to help provide guidance to louise, this woman, who anderson spoke to, but as

far as why it hadn't already happened, what the thinking was, was there any rationale explanation, we didn't hear that part of it. i would be curious, we know that cdc employees my understanding have been going to the house, if for no other reason than to help monitor, check the temperature, body temperatures of the individuals under quarantine, but what else have they been telling her? has there been a miscommunication or is this a dropped ball? again, we don't know. we do know in the other situation that you brought up, wolf, where mr. duncan was initially sent home, that sounds like it was a drop the ball completely. a clear red flag in terms of his travel history and that wasn't acted upon. is this another dropped ball? if so, very unfortunate. they've been planning for months. what is transpiring here, as historic as it is, the first patient diagnosed with ebola in this country, it was not unexpected. they've had months to sort of plan for this and go through the various scenarios and two big ones here, seem to have had some

real trouble, the idea of his duncan knows sis early enough and the -- diagnosis early enough and the contacts of the people living in the apartment and how they're being treated. >> and what makes me especially concerned also is the information we're getting, it keeps changing all the time. initially dr. thomas friedan, head of the cdc, maybe a handful of people were contacted by this individual from liberia. then it went up yesterday to 18 or 20, now we're hearing as many as 100 people were contacted, were in direct contact with this individual. i want both of you to stand by. we're not going away from this story. there are major, major ramifications going on right now. stay with us. more of the breaking news right after this.

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we're following the breaking news out of dallas, texas, someone diagnosed with ebola in the united states, individual from liberia, getting shocking new information from this individual, thomas eric duncan's girlfriend, in dallas, that her apartment where he suffered, where he was sweating, hasn't been cleaned up and only now medical authorities for the centers for disease control and prevention are going over there to deal with potentially significant developments. dr. sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent, is with us, as is dr. alexander van tulleken, a medical doctor as well who specializes in infectious diseases. sanjay, this notion that originally a handful of people were being scrutinized and then 18 or 20, now maybe he was in contact with as many as 100 people, it sounds pretty shocking.

what concerns me is the story the official story from government officials, keeps changing? >> it does. it does keep changing, and part of that is not entirely unexpected in the sense that as you get more information about his whereabouts, where he was moving during those four days, you may add more people to the list of people that you want to talk to. it doesn't mean that they're going to be listed as contact, doesn't mean that they're going to need to be monitored. my understanding the number of people being monitored because there's confirmed contact with mr. duncan is still around 12. but think of this, wolf, as throwing out a pretty wide net. anybody that could have possibly come in contact with him during those four days, they want to be talking to them. ultimately, many of those people may be found to be not at all at risk, not at all at worry, but that number 12 may go up somewhat. not going to go up to 100 is my guess but going to go up somewhat. that's a wide net sort of philosophy when it comes to

contact tracing. it's something that should be done, hasn't been done well in west africa part of the reason the numbers keep increasing. they miss people and they don't want to miss people here, wolf. >> in this apartment that is now about to be cleaned up, dr. van tulleken, only now, and these are days later, the same sheets where he was sweating, where he was suffering from diarrhea, over hours before he even went to the hospital and then astonishingly he was sent out of the hospital, gave him antibiotics and said you got minor little problem which, obviously, was not the case, i'm worried about the people who have been in that apartment, not only the girlfriend but four or five children were basically spending some important time in that apartment as well and they were going to four or five different schools if that area. how worried should we be? >> i mean i think you're right to be worried. i have a 5-year-old son and i wouldn't want him in that apartment. none of us would. it's not just ability containing this disease.

we've also got to treat those people really well. look after them. it doesn't sound like they're being looked after at the moment. the really worrying thing about this is, this isn't just doing the job. this is also a drill. this is definitely going to happen again. we don't know if this man deliberately came from liberia to seek help because he knew he was exposed. it does sound like he knew he had been exposed. what you have to think if i was exposed in liberia i would want to come on a plane and get treated in dallas. we're going to see more of this whether deliberate or not. so far we don't seem to be reacting as well as we could. this should all be protocols. >> sanjay, if you saw the pictures, and it's pretty scary all the parents of the other kids and these four other schools where these little children were attending those schools, they're obviously very, very concerned. should they be as worried as they clearly are? >> well, one of the basic principles we've been talking about is unless you come in contact with someone who is sick with an ebola infection your

chance of getting an infection yourself is basically zero, next to nothing. the people that go to school with some of these kids that we're talking about, i think that the chance for them having any kind of problem is really, really remote. the kids who were directly in contact with mr. duncan, that's obviously of more concern and that's why they are being monitored. they're going to have their temperature taken for 21 days. if it goes up that's going to be a first sign maybe something is wrong. doesn't mean they have ebola but may warrant testing at that point to see what's going on. that's something that's, you know, ongoing. i will say something else, that alexander just brought up, that is that so you have a situation now we're learning mr. duncan certainly knew it sounds like he had had contact with someone sick with ebola and then within a short time after that he got on a plane. what the screening typically does, and i went through this when i left guinea a couple months ago, they take your temperature, and then you're also asked a series of questions. had he answered he had just been

literally carrying a woman dying of ebola, he wouldn't have been able to get on the plane. you're seeing part of the problem here, wolf, it does count on self-reporting and if people aren't completely honest the system does start to fall apart a little bit. >> the shocking thing is, sanjay, very quickly, you can answer this, we're stancing by also, there's a teleconference going on from the cdc, the director briefing reporters, we want to stand by for that, but if he knew he was in direct contact with a pregnant woman in monrovia before boarding that flight for brussels and then washington and dallas, it if he was on that -- if he knew that woman eventually died from ebola, then he got out of liberia, that's obviously a significant development in this investigation? >> yeah. i mean, you know, the screening, you know, protocols would pick that up if he had been honest in talking about that and asked

basically not that he can't ever leave the country, but what would likely have happened he would be told he has to monitor himself for 21 days in liberia, not getting on a plane. that did not happen here at the time he got on a plane. he wasn't sick but he had been exposed. and seems like he knew he had been exposed and still got on the plane anyway. so that is an important detail i think in all this as well, wolf. >> and so dr. van tulleken, your suspicions is, he suspected he might have been exposed to ebola so he wanted to get out of liberia, and get to the united states, is that your suspicion? >> i think we may never know. we don't know what his decision-making process was. what i can tell you any reasonable person would want to seek help in the u.s. rather than liberia and there are lots of liberians that have been exposed and can afford to get on a plane. the lesson is not that we should close the airports, not we have to do blood testing in the airports, the only way to

prevent this happening again is to roll back this disease ins west africa. so far over the last few months, basically one private medical charity, doctors without borders, has been doing all the work. they've done everything basically, and now one country in the world has stepped up properly, the u.s. we need a massive response to deal with this ins west africa. otherwise it's not just going to be happening here. it's going to be happening all over the world. >> dr. van tulleken, stand by. sanjay, stand by as well. we're going to get back to the story and get back to the briefing that's going on, but there's breaking news right now that we're following. the turkish parliament overwhelmingly has voted in favor of au authorize rising military force against isis fighters in syria and iraq. ben wedeman joinings us from baghdad. give us the information, ben, what have you learned? >> we understand the turkish parliament has voted as you said in overwhelming majority, almost 400 votes, to just over 90 in

favor of turkish military intervention in syria. now the turks have long talked, wolf, about setting up some sort of buffer zone with -- along the border in northern syria. now obviously they would like to create a situation where all these kurdish refugees who flowed over the border almost 200,000, would be able to go back home and relieve some pressure on turkey itself which is already hosting a huge population of syrian refugees. it's somewhat problematic, however, because they could be going into areas that are currently partially under the control of kurdish militias aligned with the pkk, the kurdish workers party, which was engaged in a decades long war against the turkish state. so we're dealing with a very complicated situation in a sense it's a war within a war itself. now we don't know at this point

exactly what the turkish government is going to do now that they have the green light for parliament, but it certainly changes the equation on the ground and we'll see how it sort of turns out in the coming days. wolf? >> i just want to be precise, ben, has the turkish parliament voted to authorize military force against isis in syria as well as in iraq? >> no. this is specifically in syria. not in iraq. wolf? >> i just wanted to be precise on that and clarify. that's important development. a significant development in the nato ally turkey getting ready to get involved militarily in some way, which way precisely that remains to be seen. all right. stand by, ben wedeman, we'll get back to you for more about that. let's get reaction to what's going on. representative barbara lee joining us, a democrat from california. congresswoman, thanks very much for joining us. you support the president's

decision to go to war against isis, not only in syria, but in iraq as well? >> well, first, let me say that the authorizations that the administration are using, the ones that they're using for the strikes, i believe is the 2001 authorization that i voted against. it was a very broad authorization and i think that authorization as well as the 2002 authorization should be repealed. we should be in washington, d.c., right now, as congressmen mcgovern and congressman jones, myself, we wrote to the speaker august 28th and indicated to the speaker that we saw the expansion of military strikes and that american people deserve to have their representatives in washington, d.c., debating just as the u.k. parliament did, just as the turkish parliament did, whether or not the use of force would be something that we would authorize the president to engage in. so i think bottom line, wolf, we

feed to be in washington, d.c., the american people need to hear the debate with regard to the costs and the consequences of the use of force and then make a decision and cast a vote. it's premature to say how anyone would vote, i believe, because we haven't had that debate. i urge and encourage our speaker to really grant our request to do that. the american people deserve their members to exercise their constitutional duty to engage in a debate so people will know exactly what is taking place and what the costs and consequences are. >> a lot of people would like to see that debate but congress is in recess as you know until after the midterm elections on november 4th. you voted against the authorizations to use force in afghanistan in 2001 after 9/11, voted against going to war against saddam hussein in 2002, the war started in march 2003. you're not very happy right now that the president of the united states has authorized these air strikes against isis targets in iraq and syria, are you?

>> wolf, those resolutions that i voted against were blank checks for perpetual wore. circumstances change. we're now dealing with notes necessarily al qaeda. the resolution that i voted against in 2001 was so broad, it was against any nation, organization, video, connected to 9/11. it casts a broad net. i think right now, we should go back and discuss, debate, and really put forth to the public exactly what the costs and consequences are of the use of force. those resolutions should be repealed. other members i know and on a bipartisan basis i think we've said very clearly we would want to see those repealed and engage in another debate. i for one like many members believe that prior to engaging in an increased use of force and in a war that has not been authorized nor declared, that

the american people should have their members of congress go on record and engage in a debate so we know what this means to our national economy, national security, and what this means in terms of building schools and infrastructure and health care system in our own country and make some decisions as it relates to the benefits and costs of the use of force. >> but as congress, you know, stays in recess, they're not going to have that debate for at least another five, six weeks. who knows if they're going to do it during the lame-duck session. might have to wait until next year. here's the bottom line question. in the immediate weeks ahead is the president doing the right thing by launching these air strikes against these isis targets in syria and iraq? yes or no? >> in the immediate weeks ahead, i believe that we have to be very careful in moving forward because we do not want to see any more danger, any more hostility, any more anger and hostilities towards the united states, wolf. we have to be very careful in

how we use the use of force. the administration, the president as commander in chief, i think he's done a very good job in developing some regional strategies, but i don't want to see the military stix undermine a political and diplomatic initiative in the region that would lead to a more permanent first of all disabling of isis and more permanent solution. this is a war that has to be fought by those that are being affected in the middle east, yes, the president has laid out the fact that there is no military solution and yes, that in the future, this could be a possible threat to the united states. isis. but in the meantime we have to make sure that the diplomatic and the regional initiatives are not undermined by the military use of strikes and force. >> all right. representative barbara lee, thank very much for joinings us. i know you've been very, very critical of the war in afghanistan, the war in iraq, the way all of that unfolded.

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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. we're learning new details about

the first ebola case to be diagnosed right here in the united states. here's what we know right now. a federal official tells cnn authorities are questioning as many as 100 people in the dallas, texas area who may have had contact with a patient 42-year-old thomas eric duncan. the official says more than a dozen people had direct contact with duncan. they are now being monitored. in addition, four of his family members have been ordered to stay inside their home for the next 17 days to make sure they have not been inif effected. one is his girlfriend who says the sheets duncan used while he was sick and sweating with a fever, those sheets are still on the bed. they have not been removed. a cdc official from the centers for disease control and prevention in atlanta, tells cnn a medical waste contractor is now on the way to get those sheets removed and to inspect the apartment. duncan is from liberia. he traveled to dallas, texas, to

visit his girlfriend. "the new york times" says a few days before leaving monrovia he did have direct contact with a pregnant woman who was then suffering from ebola. that's just part of the ebola story unfolding right now. let's bring back our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. he's over at the cdc in atlanta. also our cnn money correspondent christina alesh she, more in new york, on more of the supply of what could be a promising ebola drug. the cdc is holding what's being described as a teleconference with reporters on this ebola case. what are you learninging so far? >> well, they're addressing some of these issues and making clear precisely what it means in terms of these hundred people who are being -- they want to find 100 people they think may have had some direct contact with mr. duncan. they're not saying that those people have had direct contact with mr. duncan for sure.

only 12 people have actually been confirmed as having direct contact and those people are being monitored. but the number could go up and they want to find out if there's any other possible direct contacts with mr. duncan. at some point they want to make sure they find everybody. they don't want to find out afterwards there was somebody who did have direct contact with mr. duncan that wasn't found and possibly got sick and became another source in terms of an ebola infection. they want to find everybody now to try to prevent this from turning into an outbreak. it's sort of tried and true methods in terms of outbreak controlp they haven't been able to do it effectively in west africa. they've been missing people which is why the numbers continue to increase. they don't want to miss anybody here, wolf. >> yeah. 6,000 plus people have been infected and more than half of them have already died. so this is a serious crisis and there have been some estimates by the cdc in atlanta maybe as many as a million people in west africa could be infected by

early next year. christina, the drug, zmapp, has shown at least some promise against ebola. it's the experimental drug given to those two american patients who contracted ebola while serving in west africa. they then came back to the united states. went to emory university hospital. they got this drug. a limited supply. you're studying what's going on. are there plans to increase production? i know the fda hasn't approved it yet. what are you hearing? >> well, it there's actually no supply. i went to the national institutes of health today and i asked them about how much was left of this particular treatment and they said that all of the available doses have been distributed. so as a result, the company that actually makes zmapp, that's malpractice biopharmaceuticals said in a statement that it's working with the government to ramp up productions. keep in mind this is not -- this is not a treatment that can be produced overnight.

it requires a specialized tobacco plant that needs several weeks to grow. so we're talking about what could be a lengthy time before we get any decent amount available. now also keep in mind, this has raised questions as to why the fda doesn't have an approved treatment for ebola, given the fact that two government agencies have funded private research and development on this front and part of the answer, actually, could be sequestration. you know, we had the n.i.h.'s top doctor two weeks ago basically say in a public forum that budget cuts did hurt the agency's ability to push forward some of this research and development. we have to keep an eye on how much funding is going to this and also, president obama has asked congress for an additional $58 million to ramp up producti production. that might help there, wolf. >> all right. thanks very much.

sanjay, stand by. i know we're getting more information constantly on what's going on in dallas, texas. we're also learning new details about the patient, thomas eric duncan. duncan's half brother wilfred smallwood doesn't believe duncan knew he had ebola when he left liberia. mr. smallwood joining us from phoenix. thanks very much for joining us. first of all, have you been in direct touch with your half brother and if you have, what are you hearing? how is he doing? >> well, as far as we're concerned, family, after the news of him betting ebola and then taking to the hospital, we have called the hospital and they will not allow us to talk to him at the hospital. >> what can you tell us about his condition some what have you heard about that? >> well, as far as i'm concerned, they say he has ebola. but we have not been able to talk to him. only the kids and his wife, his woman. >> he came to dallas to see his

girlfriend, not legally married, but you and he, what, you have the same mother is that right? >> eric is my brother. we have the same mother. he was born in 1972 in liberia. >> you came to the united states how many years ago from liberia? >> i came here 2005, some nine years in the united states. >> this is his first visit, your brother's, to the united states, right? >> his first visit to the united states, yes. >> and there's some suspicion, because he had been in contact with a woman, a pregnant woman, in liberia, monrovia, just before he boarded that flight for brussels and then washington and then dallas and this woman had ebola, that he may have known he potentially could have had ebola and wanted to get out of liberia and get to the united states for treatment. you've heard that suspicion to which you say? >> well, as far as we're concerned, in liberia, is a

country we help one another. this pregnant woman was walking and was falling and he ran to help her so she can't drop and hurt herself. nobody ever know he had ebola because ebola is in the system, it's not on the body. i think you run to help the person, that's all. that's what we heard. the information. he didn't know the woman according to the story. he was pregnant woman and what we do in liberia, our tradition is to help somebody who needs help. >> he went to help. the trip that he had to the united states, mr. smallwood, do you know if that trip was long planned or if it was a last-minute decision? >> well, as far as i'm concerned, it was two weeks -- when he got his visa two weeks before he came he called and said i got my visa from the u.s. embassy. gave me a visa. now i can come there. when are you coming? i may be there next week or week after next when i get my ticket

ready. we said okay. we are happy you are coming. after that we gave him some money. okay. i got my ticket already i will be there by next week. finally he came. when he got to dallas -- our mother talked to him and talked to him a lot. he was happy here with his family. >> you've been in the united states for nine years. is it fair to say for the last nine years, you have not seen your brother? is that right? >> for nine years i've not seen my brother. we talk on the phone and text messages, that's all. >> maybe skype, stuff like that. tell us a little bit about him, thomas eric duncan. what's he like? >> well, thomas eric duncan is a very hard working person, he's the last child of my mother. he loves work a lot and we were refugees and i lived there and i came to the united states for -- and he stay there going to

school. he went to school. he has some experience and something he did in school, and then he moved to liberia after the refugees were over in ghana, he begin life in liberia, got his visa to come to the united states. >> do you have any plans to go to dallas to see your brother? >> if i had a plan to go see him or he come to see me until this news broke of ebola, we had a plan to go and see him because i haven't seen him for nine years, so it was our duty, i'm going to find a ticket to go to dallas and see him. if i did, we would be in the house. my son is there right now. they're quarantined in place. >> your son is being quarantined right now, that what you're saying? >> he's with them. he lived there with them too. i just talked to them this morning. the woman and my son and all of them. i talked to them a few hours ago. i talked to them every day.

>> so they can't leave that apartment. you've heard the news that anderson cooper reported, he poke with your brother's girlfriend who said he had been sick for a while, he was sweating overnight, sweating in the sheets. he had diarrhea. only then did he go to the hospital emergency room where he was -- where he was vomiting. he had a fever. they sent him out. they said go home, gave him some antibiotics if you will, some pain medicine, and they just let him go back. you must be deeply -- your son has been in contact with him and being quarantined. how old is your son? >> my son is 21 years old. >> what does he say to you? >> when i asked him this morning and yesterday, about before this, before the announcement of ebola, what happened to your unc uncle? he said he been here fine. we all be okay. he was trying to see if he can get a job here. i call him every day. he never tell me he was sick.

he was laughing. playing music. until they say on thursday. he got sick for the first time. fever, they took him to the hospital. they went to the hospital. the doctor gave him some medications and said okay, go home. and sent him back home. when he came home, from thursday he was okay, thursday, friday, saturday, and sunday when he started getting a fever again. when they looked, he began to start vomiting, went to the bathroom, that's the time they had to call 911 for him. and the doctor said he had ebola. >> how worried are you, mr. smallwood, about the potential condition of your 21-year-old son who's being quarantined inside that apartment which really hasn't been cleaned up since your half brother was spending the nights there sweating and potentially leaving some very contagious material in that apartment?

>> well, i think at this issue now, we look to the cdc, who is responsible to get the people out of there and put them on prevention immediate and dot best they can do to that place. i'm just hearing from you that this man was in the bedroom sweating and all we know was fever. he started with fever and went to the hospital and the hospital sent him back home and gave him medications. on sunday when he started vomiting in the bathroom. my son said he vomited in the bathroom. we call 911 for him. that's it. >> yeah. and only now we're told the cdc is sending medical contractors to that apartment to get the sheets, pillow cases, remove them, clean up that apartment. are you scared about the fate not only of your 21-year-old son but others who are there, including your brother's girlfriend, and other kids, children who are there? >> well yes. i'm skeptical now because since

you describe it this way, everybody is skeptical. this way, we're hearing the information he was sweating all along and the house has not been cleaned and they are quarantined there, that's a major problem to us, to everybody. that worries me now, yes. >> so your brother, obviously, understandably so, given the spread of ebola in liberia, he wanted to get out of there and two weeks ago you say he got the visa from the u.s. embassy in monrovia to come to the united states and then you say a week later he actually bought the ticket and flew to brussels to washington dulles international airport and then to dallas, texas. is it your -- i don't know if you spoke to your brother but did he say to you, i have to get out of here, because i'm afraid of ebola? >> no. he come -- he never even said. i'm happy -- i'm coming -- my son and my wife helped me i come to see them. we know it take him a long time

to see his family. coming to the united states to see the family he didn't mention ebola, any sickness at all. he just came. he's coming to help his son, he live here. regular and normal to visit your family and be with them. that's all we feel. he was here, we spoke and talk every day. okay. you're here. i'm fine. okay. i'm trying to find my way and come to see you guys. i try to do something. i'll come there. maybe you come here too. let me get money for you to come to visit me in phoenix. we discuss like that. only recently now they said ebola. i don't hing he knew he had ebola. the second thing again, coming from liberia to the united states you got to go through all the tests. i think he was tested in africa too at the same time and went through a medical test and came to the united states. and if he had been the first time to the hospital and sent him back home with ebola among

the people, who should be blamed? who? the hospital or my other concern, how does he get ebola? is it from here or africa? that's the question. >> apparently he was in contact with a pregnant woman in monrovia who had ebola, wound up dying, and as you pointed out he wanted to help her, saw her collapse, went over to help her. there's one suspicion maybe that's how he got ebola. as you know, ebola is pretty widespread in west africa, including in monrovia, the capital of liberia. will fred smallwood we will stay in close touch with you. you're deeply concerned about your brother, deeply concerned about your son, 21-year-old son, who's there in that apartment. you're concerned about the other family members and friends who may have been in contact with your brother, thomas eric duncan. good luck to you. good luck to all of them. and we'll certainly stay on top of this story. thanks very much. going to have much more on this ebola crisis coming up. but there's other important news we're following including the u.s. secret service gets a new

interim director after a string of embarrassing and potentially dangerous blunders and we're learning more behind the scenes details about the resignation of julia pierson as head of the secret service. she stepped down yesterday, 18 months after she was sworn in as the first female director of the u.s. secret service. our chief washington correspondent jake tapper is getting more information on what's going on behind the scenes. tell us what you're learning. >> well after the initial september 19th fence jumper happened, there are a lot of meetings between the white house officials and secret service officials and there was some annoyens at the fact that stories weren't all straight, the facts kept changing in private and public accounts. white house officials understood according to a source i spoke with, there was a certain fog, not fog of war, but fog of high adrenaline incident in the white house. what i'm told was the final straw was when the incident with the elevator breach was revealed. of course three days before that

september 169th, a contractor wo was armed with a gun was in an elevator with president obama. >> with a criminal record. >> according to some accounts, yes. what i'm told by a source is, there are three things that are problematic. one that it happened, of course. two, that throughout these weeks and weeks of white house officials meeting with secret service officials, including now former director pierson, this incidence was never brought up. three, tuesday afternoon, just before the story was about to break in the press in "the washington post" and washington examiner, that's when the secret service finally told the white house, president obama, about this breach, two weeks before, that i'm told, was the final straw. that's when it was decided that president obama really no longer had any confidence in director pierson. now former director pierson. >> she was pushed to resign? >> indeed. the idea that anybody would leave a job and resign voluntarily without another job to go to seems silly. it's part of the washington ka buke ki but she was pushed out.

>> that's what she resigned. you're going to have more coming up for our north american viewers, 4:00 p.m. eastern on "the lead" with jake tapper. thanks very much. >> thanks, wolf. the elevator breach may have been the last straw that led to the resignation of julia pierson but one of the security lapses that have raised questions ate the agency. lawmakers grilled pierson about the incident during a hearing on tuesday and they were outraged over the white house fence jumper and 2011 incident when shots were fired at the white house, that the bullets weren't discovered for four days. when they were, they were discovered by a housekeeper at the white house. republican congressman daryl isis chairs the house committee that conducted the hearings this week and joining us live from san diego. so first of all, give us your sense where this agency, the secret service, is heading right now? >> well, the major changes you're going to see is first of all, you have an acting director who does have a strong, personal protection background and i believe that the priority is

going to be on just that. making sure the envelope around the president is clearly at 100%. and then you have the secretary we talked to yesterday, jeh johnson, who's called for a blue to go through each and every and all of these breaches and really look at where the organizational, leadership or training problems occurred. i think that panel is going to have to look at the morale problems that very much are there as came out in our hearing yesterday when people feel more comfortable going to the press or to congress than they do their own bosses, that's the beginning of a statement that you have an agency in real trauma and something that bothered all of us, on the day we knew about the additional incident and asked the director if there was anything else. we did that in unclassified and classified sessions and she never came forward with it. i do believe that this

represented a breach of either she knew and didn't say or she should have known and didn't know. >> we know about the 2011 incident when shots were fired at the white house and nobody noticed for four days. we know about the fence jumper that not only got into the white house but into the east room. we know about this elevator incident where there was an armed man with a criminal record standing there with the president of the united states and the white house wasn't told about that until it was about to be published by newspapers here in washington. here's the question because you've studied it. your committee has studied. are there more incidents along these lines that are about to come out? >> there are a number of additional incidents and again this represents the kinds of things that can happen in any organization but the corrective action, the constantly driving a 1% failure down to a 0% failure and being open and honest about the fact that if a human error happens, it has to be quickly

dealt with, honestly said to the president and protective personnel and made sure it doesn't happen again and that's where this $1.5 billion over 6,000 individuals, 4,000 of them agents and officers, that's what they're dedicated to. this is an organization that is not law enforcement. it's guard. this is an organization that has a very focused mission of protecting a very small group of people but protecting them at 100% level. >> darrell issa, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> let's get a different perspective now. senator barry sanders from vermont joining us right now. let me get your quick reaction to this secret service disaster that is unfolding, senator sanders. do you believe the president, the first lady, the first family, they are safe right now? >> well, i certainly hope so. there's no question what we have seen is a fiasco. i'm glad that the director has

resigned and let's hope they get their act together. regardless of political persuasion, everyone understands it's imperative that the president and other officials get the protection that they deserve in a very, very dangerous world. >> let's talk politics for a moment because you've intrigued a lot of us, senator sanders, not only know but over the years. are you seriously thinking of running for the democratic presidential nomination? >> well, wolf, here's where i am. in this country today as i think you know, the middle class is collapsing. we have more people living in poverty than almost any time in the history of this country. we have massive wealth inequality. 95% of new income is going to the top 1%. we have a citizens united supreme court decision that allows billionaires to buy elections. we have the global warming crisis. we have an enormous set of problems facing our nation and

in fact the world. and i think that the working class of this country, the middle class of this country, needs to stand up for them and to take on the billionaire class which today had so much power economically and politically. and, yes, within that context, i am giving thought to running for president, but it is a very, very difficult decision. not on easy decision. i have to assess whether there is the kind of support necessary all over this country in terms of unprecedented grassroots movement prepared to take on the billionaire class that have so much power. that's what i'm trying to ascertain right now. >> what's wrong with hillary clinton? >> absolutely nothing. hillary is somebody i have known for a long time and have a lot of respect for her. this is not about hillary clinton, barry sanders or anybody else. this is about the middle class and working class of this country. how we deal with reality, wolf,

that real unemployment today is 12%. do you know what youth unemployment percent is? 20%. our infrastructure is crumbling. we need to create millions of jobs rebuilding our infrastructure. it's not about hillary or anybody else. it's about ideas that can reverse the decline of the middle class, create jobs, raise the minimum wage, and our disastrous trade policy, which is creating great jobs in china but losing jobs in the united states. we need a vagigorous debate. that's some of the ideas i'm thinking about. >> we'll see you in new hampshire and iowa, some of those early states in the days ahead, is that right? >> well, if you're down in durham, new hampshire, tomorrow, i'll be there. if you'll be in iowa this weekend, i'll be there as well. >> that's always a good sign that you're seriously thinking of running for president of the united states. senator, we're going to continue these conversations down the

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hi there. i'm brooke baldwin. a lot to get to this hour. the news keeps coming in on this ebola case here in the united states. the quarantine partner of ebola patient has spoken to cnn and when you hear details, it's a shocker. you hear about the sheets that this man slept in while he was sick. they have still been on this woman's bed. you'll hear what else she told anderson cooper in just a moment. first, a quick update. news from the director of the cdc moving to assure people they have the situation under control. take a listen. >> bottom line here is that we remain confident that we can contain any spread of ebola within the united states. there could be additional cases who are already exposed if that occurs, systems are in place so that they will not further spread ebola. >> now, the number of people who could be at risk here of