hello. i'm wolf blitzer reporting. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington and 9:00 p.m. in monrovia. wherever you're watching from, thanks for joining us. we just learned in the past hour or so that a person with possible, possible ebola-like symptoms has been emitted to a washington, d.c., area hospital. howard university hospital says the patient traveled to nigeria. since returning, the person has exhibited symptoms of ebola. the risk of ebola in this patient is considered very, very low but they are monitoring the situation. this patient is under quarantine, at least for the time being, under an abundance of caution. we received a statement from the

d.c. department of health, the director saying this. director garcia, the district of columbia has been working for the centers for disease control and prevention at howard university hospital to monitor any patients displaying symptoms associated with the ebola virus. there are no confirmed cases of ebola in the district of columbia. once again, we're monitoring that situation. and here in dallas, look at this, there's a hazardous materials team at the apartment where the ebola victim was staying. earlier they were turned a i way until it gets permission required to transport hazardous waste. in the meantime, four people came in to contact with the ebola patient remain quarantined inside the apartment. in ebola, a cameraman working for nbc news has tested positive

for ebola. ashoko mukpo's parents say that he's leaving liberia on sunday to head to the united states. thomas eric duncan answered "no" on a questionnaire asking whether he had been exposed to ebola. and had been helping ebola patients. the president of liberia is angry. >> with the u.s. doing so much to help us fight ebola, he's gone there and set up, and in a way put some americans in a state of fear. and put them at some risk. so i feel very saddened by that and very angry with him, to tell you the truth. >> let's get an update now on how officials in dallas are handling the ebola cases as well as what airlines are doing to try to reassure nervous

travelers. rene marsh is here with me and martin savidge is in dallas. what are you hearing about the possibility of restrictions of flights to west africa. >> they are all saying at this point there is no indication, no plan to tell airlines to stop flying to this region. and you know, when you talk to a lot of these experts, they believe stopping or putting these restrictions on these airlines in place could do more harm than good. we did speak to brussels airlines, one of the three carriers this man was flying from liberia to brussels. and their reason, they say that it's their humanitarian duty to continue to fly there. they've got to get medicine there, health care workers there. if you clamp down on these airlines, the concern is how do you get the necessary supplies there. at this point, no indication that they will stop the flights. >> martin savidge is in dallas. martin, the dallas county health and human services director

certainly understandably trying to combat fears about this one confirmed case of ebola diagnosed in the united states near to where you are. listen to what he said on "new day" today. >> most people see the ebola outbreak in africa and, therefore, the fear that it could happen here in the united states, specifically in dallas, is understandable. but at this point, the family has been monitored, there is no outbreak and so, therefore, everyone should ease their fears and allow the public health officials in this state and from the cdc and local health department to respond to this issue. >> martin, you're there. you're a man on the scene. is the situation under control? what does it look like? >> reporter: you know, it depends, really, if you look at the situation now. we're at the apartment complex where thomas duncan was staying and the woman described as his partner and several other family

members continue to be quarantined. you'll see that now you've got the dallas fire rescue haz-mat team that has shown up on the site. on top of that, there's a private contracting cleaning crew. all of this comes as a result of anderson cooper's interview yesterday with the partner of thomas duncan. she had a shocking revelation when she said that all of the sheets, all of the mattress, the towels, everything that duncan had used, even though he was suffering from ebola, was still in the apartment complex. i think that shocked a lot of people because it would have been assumable that been one of the first things you do is getting everything out that was contaminated. we saw the dallas city officials trying to organize something. a cleaning crew showed up last night and then were turned away because they didn't have the property authority to transport the waste that they were going to clean up and collect and haul out of the apartment. so this is where you get the

plan versus the reality and apparently thinking about disposing of ebola waste coming from a residence had not been part of the original plan and this is what worries the public, that even though on paper everybody says they've got a good, working secure plan to protect the neighborhood and those who may have come in contact, they look at scenes like this and see the first initial diagnosis and say, wait a minute, what you say versus what we see are not adding up. >> rene, what are you hearing? >> we now know, just adding on to what martin is seeing on the ground, a special permit will be issued by the end of the day. that coming from a source. the special permit will allow a waste management company to essentially remove the materials inside that apartment as well as within the hospital where this man is. the issue, according to this

source and why it took so long, is they needed to find a contractor who could essentially handle all of this waste and dispose of it safely. and that company needs to have a plan for how they are going to do that safely. we're hearing this special permit will be issued by the end of the day. >> and quickly, martin, how are they doing in locating those hundreds of people that may have been in contact with this ebola patient? >> reporter: well, they have a special team. the cdc has ten people on the ground here. they divided them into two separate teams. they are, one, focused on the hospital staff and emergency staff that initially came in contact with the patient. they are tracking down and looking at how serious their contact was. some of them are going to be deemed as very serious because they interacted with the patient and others only communicated. and the same is being done within the community. we don't know how far along they are on the list of 100. we assume it's going down but if it goes down, that means they are going to find those who have

had direct contact, those are the ones that they want to keep a very close air on. we expect today more information. >> we're going to keep showing these live pictures, the haz-mat team working at the apartment where the ebola patient stayed before being admitted into the dallas hospital. it was certainly only a matter of time before an ebola case was diagnosed here in the united states and now we're following developments, as i said, here in the d.c. area as well. there's a patient there with what is described as possible ebola symptoms that was admitted into howard university hospital. let's talk about this and more with dr. sanjay gupta, an infectious disease specialist joining us from london, institute for international humanitarian affairs. sanjay, let's get some perspective now on what is going on here in washington. this patient who just arrived from nigeria, i'm told, about a week or so ago, has some

symptoms, some diarrhea, some fever but i'm told that there's a really, really low chance that this could be ebola but out an abundance of caution they've isolated this individual, they are hydrating this person. but they don't really think it's ebola. i guess that's the smart thing to do even though nigeria engineer yeis one of the places that has done an excellent job of spreading ebola. >> there are a success story with how they have been able to contain it and don't have evidence of ebola now. i think there is always a flag that goes off when you have somebody who has traveled from that part of the world and has symptoms that may be consistent with ebola. but keep in mind, and i think you're making this point, wolf, that there is a lot of things that could look the way this patient does and cause these sorts of symptoms. it's a graphic, it's a busy

graphic, wolf. take a look. the high-risk people, people that you know you've had direct contact with their bodily fluids, they have to be tested. on the far right of the screen, people with no known risks, they are generally not going to need testing. it's the people in the middle, did they have contact with somebody perhaps maybe someone in their household, a health care person, not sure. you review those cases more care carefully and then make a determination whether they should be tested or not. they may put that person into isolation and wait for those test results to come back. they come back negative, the patient free to go. they want to find out what is causing his or her symptoms but it's ebola that won't be on the list anymore. >> i'm told, sanjay, it's a little confusing, that at least for now the cdc, the centers for disease control and prevention

decided not to do an ebola test. they are monitoring this person, hydrating this person and for some reason they don't want to do an actual ebola test, at least not now. what do you make of that, doctor? >> as sanjay said, coming back from west africa you can have a huge number of the problems. and so it's really important not to fixate on the ebola. it's important to isolate the patient to be nursing them so there's not a risk of transmission but then they have to be treated the way we treat any other patient. a test by the cdc would involve the transport of bloods, it's quite expensive and there's not necessarily a reason to do this in everyone. what's more important is observation and waiting. i don't think it's irresponsible to do and it sounds like they are monitoring it very carefully. >> they are doing the right thing at howard university

hospital. sanjay, quickly, how long does the ebola test take before you get a result? in other words, you draw some blood and how many hours does it take to learn if the patient is positive for ebola? >> pretty quickly, within a few hours. what has been happening is they want to get a test and then a confirmatory test. they sent a sample to the cdc in atlanta as well for con firm ma confirmation. i saw it getting done in field hospitals within a few hours, wolf. >> please sand by. we're going to check back with you a little later this hour. we've got a lot of questions from our viewers out there and around the united states and around the world. we're going to try to answer some of them. more of the news coming up. also, an american is now believed to have joined the fight against isis taking up arms with rebel forces in syria.

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we're going to get back to the other news on ebola but breaking news coming in from hong kong. let's go there. will ripley is on the scene and joining us live. what are you seeing, will? >> reporter: wolf, for the first time in several days, we have seen uniformed police officers enter the area in hong kong that has been the heart of the occupy central movement and it has created quite an up roar. i saw a line and i would estimate dozens of police officers walking and members of the crowd were shouting, put away your rubber bcatons. i'm going to show you, they walked up over this way and towards that bridge right there, it leads to a police building where we know that protesters have set up a blockade and have been attempting to stop supplies

from entering. get over here and talk to us. tim schwartz, tell me what you saw. >> well, there was a lot of police coming in to apparently change shift in the building here. the protesters tried to stop them, put their hands up, they forced their way through and there was no outright violence. they were angry and shouting at them and we saw a few people knocked over, one guy being crushed by the railing. i hope he's okay. i think he is. a few people seemed to get light injuries. in the end, the police formed a barrier and these students started calling for calm. >> reporter: and so, wolf, this is tsignificant. you can see the volume of people that are here right now. the numbers have been increasing throughout the night. we have many thousands lining the streets after a day that was pretty quiet. only a handful of people were

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streets for nearly a week, wolf. >> that could be a very dangerous and ugly situation if that were to happen. will ripley on the scene of breaking news in hong kong. later this hour i'll bring in jon huntsman, the former u.s. ambassador to china. he'll join us live to give us his assessment of what is going on. also, when thomas duncan went to the hospital with symptoms, the dallas hospital made a huge, huge mistake. we're going to take you to another hospital that will talk about what is being done to prevent future mistakes.

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the united states now upping its military commitment to combatting the ebola outbreak in west africa. the pentagon has announced it will add an additional 600 troops to the 3,000 already committed to the region. here's what the pentagon spokesman rear admiral john kirby said on cnn's "new day" about the u.s. troops headed to africa. >> our main focus of the effort really are in four things. command and control and logistic training and engineering support. we're not going to be treating patients the troops are not equipped to do that. that is not their job. we are going to help establish the infrastructure, health facilities, emergency treatment units, that kind of thing so the health care workers can do their jobs. >> let's bring in democratic congressman elliott engel, the ranking member of the house foreign committee affairs. you agree with this decision to send 3600 u.s. troops to liberia

to these other countries of west africa to deal with ebola? >> yes, very much so. the way we're going to control the ebola virus is by controlling it right at its heart in west africa. and only the united states has the ability to do that. i think it's a very excellent decision to send our people in there. >> why do you say only the united states? why not the europeans? why not britain or france or italy or belgium, the scandanavia countries? >> this has to be a global effort. it was a global effort but the united states kind of led the pact. i think it's the same thing here. it is a global effort. >> but our military units from other countries, are they being deployed to that region? do you know? >> as far as i know -- i don't know.

they may be in the future. but we know what we have and what we can do and what we can do to help. i don't think we have to wait for -- to see what other countries do. i think we need to move quickly. again, that's the only way we're going to contain this virus. it has to be contained at the source. the problem, of course, in africa is that they don't have running water. they don't have all of the things that we are used to having in western society. and so we have the expertise to try to build those facilities and try to make those hospitals better so that we can, again, attack this outbreak at its source. >> there's been one confirmed case, an ebola patient, as you know, in dallas, texas, here in the united states. and as you also know, there have been several major blunders by authorities in dallas that obviously have caused a lot of concern out there and there's a lot of questioning about whether or not the u.s. government knows what it is doing right now. here's the question, congressman. do you have confidence that local, state, and federal

authorities are up to the job? >> well, i have confidence. that doesn't mean that -- it doesn't mean any kind of monitoring. it does. and it doesn't mean that mistakes aren't going to be made because invariably they will. yesterday i was on the phone with the usaid chief, rod chaw, and i think things are under control. i think these are things that are fluid, that we have to continue to monitor it each and every day and each and every hour and make sure that we are doing the right things because as we see with this patient in texas, he lied and there were other missteps as well. it's got to be monitored constantly each and every day and each and over hour. >> hopefully emergency around the country, indeed, around the world, will learn from the mistakes that were made in dallas, texas, and they won't be happening again. eliot engel, thank you for joining us. by the way, the president's

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the world. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. let's get you up to speed on ebola, the efforts to keep it from spreading here in the united states, indeed, around the world. a hazardous materials' team is in dallas, texas, and a company is now waiting to get the necessary permits to transport hazardous materials. four people have come into contact with the ebola patient and remain quarantined inside that apartment. in liberia, a freelance american cameraman working for nchl bc news has tested positive for ebola. ashoko mukpo is due to fly back to the united states on monday. eric duncan will need to be monitored for possible ebola symptoms, those words from the commissioner department of state health services.

he says they are going to monitor 50 people to make sure they don't. the response of dallas health care officials should set off huge alarm bells around the world. workers at texas health presbyterian hospital gave them antibiotics and actually sent him home despite the symptoms. doctors were not aware that he travelled to liberia even though he told a nurse he just arrived in the united states from liberia. the big question a lot of americans are asking right now, are u.s. hospitals properly equipped? are their staffs adequately trained? kyung lah walks us through one hospital's protocol. >> reporter: the first line of defense in containing an ebola outbreak in the united states are our nation's hospital. this is the emergency room.

like all emergency rooms, there's a check-in. at this particular hospital, a registered nurse does that check-in if you have nausea, headache, and have traveled to west africa. this hospital ebola virus protection protocol kicks in. there are signs all over the hospital asking if patients have traveled in the last three weeks to west africa. is that enough to raise alarm? >> it's certainly enough to raise an alarm. >> reporter: do they ever end up sitting in the waiting room? >> no. people would have a risk of being exposed to the virus. >> containment is the key here? >> containment is absolutely the key. they will be brought, maybe depending on how sick they are, transported by a gurney and transported to the isolation room. >> what's the first step for the health care workers? >> the first step is always to

wash your hands. she puts on a mask and then she's going to go ahead and put on her protective goggles. she's going to put on a gown that is impevious for protection. if i were in africa, i would also use a much higher level of personal protection. but this is more than enough protection from any of the infectious diseases that we see. by recommendations for centers for disease control, we have a sign-in sheet and everyone who enters the room will sign in. >> reporter: this looks like a normal hospital room. >> well t. is a normal hospital room other than the fact it has a special air handling system. >> reporter: let's say the patient vomits on the sheets. what happens to the sheets? >> it doesn't matter whether they vomit or are just on the sheets. all of the patients on the sheets who are suspected of ebola are disposed of as a

biohazardous waste. >> i think the case in dallas, if the cases before were a wake-up call, really has made everyone very aware that all hospitals need to be prepared for the possibility of seeing someone coming from west africa who has ebola. >> that report from kyung lah. hospitals not only in the united states but in europe and asia and africa, south america, all over the world. lessons need to be learned. just ahead, as fears grow over ebola, many people are deeply worried about how the disease is spread. our experts are joining us. we're getting ready to answer your questions. the conference call.

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there's major action going on right now. will, what are you seeing right now? >> reporter: let me walk you through what happened in the past few minutes. we heard an up roar in the crowd. people started shouting police, police. when we looked up at the pedestrian bridge, we saw a line, dozens of uniformed police officers walking along the bridge which takes you directly to a police building which is right there. right there where you see all of those people walking up, all of those people gathered. that's where the police building is. you can see what happened ex ne. they forced their way through a barricade that the protesters had said up. they kept repeating that they were unarmed and kept carrying supplies that delivered to a large contingent of police officers that were inside that building right now. they have been essentially camped out because the protesters have been blocking the supplies and blocking the entrance to that building. but it was quite a scuffle, as you see in the video, and we have a young man caught right in

the middle of it all. his name is raymond and he's 24 years old. he's just now back -- i understand that you were actually thrown to the ground at one point. >> yes. >> reporter: tell me, are you doing okay? >> yes, i am okay now. >> reporter: take us through what happened, raymond. >> the police go along the bridge and then there's a barrier in front -- at the corner and then they just keep pushing and then the police pushed us along and then go to the -- another barrier at the entrance and then just pushed me to the wall and then pulled me out of the area and kicked me. >> reporter: so you were kicked and pushed but the officers were unarmed. is that what you saw? >> yes. >> reporter: talk to me about why this created an uproar. everybody was immediately alarmed as soon as the uniformed

officers were spotted. talk to me about why that was so concerning to you and other protesters here. >> they just go up and there are many people and also they just -- this is the second time to try to protect that barrier and this is the second time they climb there and then the barrier was set up by me and my friend because we want to stop so that the people on the bridge can go downstairs -- >> reporter: so they can move peacefully? >> yes. >> reporter: but the police have a different side of the story, wolf. they say that protesters have been blocking supplies from getting into that building and they were very determined to enter that building and that's exactly what they did. but there's growing fear here in the heart of this protest that

this is only one small sign of what may be to come. the inevitable in the view of many people here action on the part of the city of hong kong and they fear beijing itself dispatching perhaps its people's liberation army, 6,000 to 10,000 troops. there's a lot of concern that at some point they are going to try to break up this whole operation and i can tell you, even here in the early morning hours, wolf, thousands of people continue to line these streets and the mood is certainly shifting. it's been peaceful for much of the week but there have been clashes around the city and now the biggest incident that we've seen since that incident on sunday when pepper spray was involved happened in a few minutes when those uniformed officers entered the building. >> when you say uniformed, i want to be precise, uniformed and armed officers or just uniformed officers? >> reporter: they kept repeating and you can hear the officers saying, we are unarmed. unarmed. one officer was carrying a

baton. we know that officers do have riot gear available. we saw them a couple of days ago with riot shields. they were containing shields believed to carry rubber bullets. they have the capacity to deal with the crowd but none of those were used tonight. they forced their way through the barricade to get supplies to the officers. they have issued repeated warnings to all of the protesters here saying if they do not disperse from in front of government buildings -- this is a main thoroughfare normally full of cars and it's been closed for nearly a week now. there's financial hardship as a result of this. government employees had to stay home today and the city of hong kong says that if this doesn't disperse soon, there will be very serious consequences. we don't know what that is going to look like but maybe we got a preview of that tonight. >> it's approaching 2:00 a.m. in hong kong. stand by, will. i want to bring in the former

u.s. ambassador, jon huntsman. you spent a lot of time in china and hong kong. you see what is going on, governor. what do you say? what's your analysis? >> the first reaction and having stood on that same street many weeks ago is that you've got a chief executive in hong kong who has very little legitimacy and credibility, he came to power in 2012, is not respected by the protesters and others involved. the other part of the equation is, you've got this anti-corruption campaign. he can't afford to make a mistake. he's got to be very careful in terms of what he chooses to do. the way that this is navigated is going to have to be a very narrow approach. the options are not great but they can take a hard line against the protesters.

thr going to have to find a compromise to get them off the street. >> how worried should we be about this being another tiananmen square? >> what gave hong kong its uniqueness and freedom, its ability to eject a bright light of competitiveness across the world could be compromised on the democratic principles. i think the longer term is really the risk that is being run. the crowds will gather, hong kong people are passionate about their freedom. but longer term, diminishing the democratic prospects of hong kong could carry long-term implications that could be very harmful. >> and further complicating the situation, a relatively new development. other protesters, the pro-democracy protesters. there's obviously the police. but now increasingly there are some residents opposed to those

protesters. they don't like this area being shut down. they are not going to work, they are losing money and there could be a clash between hong kong residents who support the protesters and those who oppose the protesters. >> well, that's right. you have 7 1/2 million in the crown colony. you'll have a lot of partisans who are in favor of china. and china will encourage many of them to get unorganized. that's just the way they operate. it won't be unusual to see people wearing shirts that represent that they are in favor of what china's endeavoring to do longer term and those basically committed to the core principles of what hong kong was founded upon. >> i want to you stay with us. we're going to continue watching the breaking news on the streets of hong kong. goemp governor, much more after this. stay with us.

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let's get back to the breaking news on the streets of hong kong, will, set the scene for us. what's going on right now? >> reporter: this is leading into the central business district which you see behind me. normally this street would be full of traffic. for nearly a week now it's been full of protesters, students who are demanding a choice. they say they want real democracy in this country. they want a chance to elect a candidate as beijing promised in the 1997 hand over when hong

kong was transferred to chinese control. beijing made a promise that people here would be able to elect a leader in 2017. over the summer, there was a huge outrage in this city because beijing said you will be able to vote for candidates that the communist party handpicks for you. there's a committee here. it's pro-beijing. they choose candidates that will be elected into office. that's what has built up to this protest. there's no one single leader. there's no one group that's organizing this. these are students who have come out and who on sunday unarmed were pepper sprayed by hong kong police causing tens of thousands of citizens in this city to fill the streets and show support for these young people. that was the only incident of violence that we saw. the rest of the week police haven't shown a presence here because there was a backlash and people were angry to see police using tear gas on students who

are now joined by people of all ages who are out here because they want to demand the same thing. democracy. tonight as tension grows in this city, you mention it's a city divided. each day that this protest goes on, each workday, people are losing money. businesses are forced to stay closed. some smaller businesses are in danger of going under. there's a group of people here in hong kong who are tired of this and growing more angry with each day that this continues and that's why we're seeing now clashes popping up in parts of the city and there's a lot of tension, a lot of concern, about what the police are going to do to try to disperse this crowd. so when a convoy of uniformed officers tried to enter that government building up there, everyone rushed toward that area and started shouting and you saw video on the pedestrian bridge of the confrontation as the police forced their way through a barricade that protesters set up. >> be careful over there. jon huntsman is still with me. former ambassador to china.

you say china is less concerned about the global image and far more concerned with maintaining control. this is a huge problem that they face right now. >> it's a huge problem. one of the things on the mind on the new leader in china is how you maintain domestic stability at a time when you have 700 million internet users, people who use social networking to band together to get messages out with lightning speed and deal with that environment pushing for change with one-party system that doesn't want to accommodate change as quickly as population would like it brought about. >> what should the u.s. be doing and saying about these demonstrations in hong kong? >> i think the united states without talking about principles for which we are famous throughout the world but the asia pacific region. we have a name brand. it's freedom. liberty. human rights. open markets. we should be saying something about the importance of preserving the stability of hong kong and why recognizing the

underlying principles of free market economics and democracy have made hong kong great. they should never be jeopardized and we should stand up in preservation to speak to preservations of those principles. >> a tense time over there. lots at stake. not only for the people of china and hong kong but for people all over the world. we'll watch it very closely. governor, thank you for joining us. governor jon huntsman. that's it for me. thanks for watching. 5:00 p.m. eastern later today "the situation room." for our international viewers, christiane amanpour starts after a quick break. for viewers in north america, "newsroom" with randy kaye starts right at the top of the hour. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare,

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