of the u.s. senate to jon stewart to south park. the controversy over the redskins name is boiling. >> when it comes down to it a racial slur is a rascial slur. >> derek jeter's career ended in spectacular fashion. what about the hole he left in baseball. what's next for the superstar. >> there is only one george stein brern, like to be as close to him as i could. >> one of the sport's, figure, ironman, cal ripken jr. addresses rumors he is headed back to baseball as a manager. >> i don't know how that is going to end up. i do know i have an inkling or need to test myself there. >> welcome to "unguard." tonight out of our l.a. studios. if you watch nfl games on tv and the numbers say that most of you do. this will affect you. the announcement that it is

kidding banning television and radio stations from using the word redskins when referring to the washington, d.c. nfl team. this could be a landmark moment. owner daniel snyder has sworn to never change the nickname. it would be hard to see the nfl alug him to keep it, if it can't beep used in major media. the fcc its not alone in weighing in here. earlier this year, the u.s. patent office actually canceled the team's trademark registrations. noting the neck name is "disparaging of native americans." pop culture has taken note. the team was satirized on south park last week and the daily show devoted a segment to the debate putting native americans in the same room as team supporters. i want towell come of in simon smith, and don wetzel sr. of the black feet nation, falls on the other. also, george washington law professor, the man who filed the petition. the fcc is considering.

let's start there, john. what is your main argument here? >> what we are arguing is that repeatedly using a word look the n word or r word on broadcasting, hundreds of times a day in many cases, is clearly contrary to the public interest which is the standard that the fcc enforces. >> well, don, you have a unique place in this debate, your father was chairman of the blackfeet nation, very respected member of the community. he is actually the one who suggested the logo, that other native americans now find so offensive. he is the one who petitioned the team to use it. >> the name redskins has been around for 83 years. and the logo, since 1967, i believe. rocky wetzel gave to the owner, six pictures. they picked the picture that they wanted on the helmet. he did it right. he had medicine men. they prayed over these pictures. and then, all of a sudden, the

logo showed up on the, on the redskins helmet. >> simon, you may beg to differ there, right? >> there are new studies now to prove that, there is an impact on the mental health and stability of native american kids as a result of indian mascots and racial epithets. the term itself is a racial slur. it does harm native am cerican kids. these children are adversely impacted by the images and by the language. >> rachel, in the court proceedings, virtual leave every main your american indian organization has signed on to say that the r word is as represehensible to them as american indians, as the n word to african-americans. it is inincontrovertible. whatever is 606 years ago. if the. >> when you look at evolving attitud attitudes. espn conducted a poll.

a good point how things changed. 23% of americans think the team's name should be changed. an increase over 20 years. you have to look at the poll found 71% of americans think the team should be allowed to keep the name. i mean, simon, do polls like that matter in this debate? >> no, they shouldn't. you have to think about it. these are polls. numbers. when it comes down to it. a racial slur is a racial slur. just because you approve of its use doesn't make it any less harmful. that's one of the arguments we hear. there not being malicious. the intent is all good. and we're honoring you. intent doesn't change the outcome, the consequence. >> give don a chance to answer this. that's what his perspective is. the guys are whacking away at me here. let me tell you the team at colorado, formed a pro football team. and they had four indians on it.

and they had indians. and they voted to call themselves the redskins. we were proud, proud of our color. we were proud to be red men. they felt the redskins would be a great name. >> far as i know the team here in washington is not made up of american indians hatch not chose in it to honor themselves. we can't make policy based upon one person who has certain memories about things. today is today. it is clear low a racial slur. it is so clear. it is in virtually every dictionary. >> look up chelsea luger's piece, she said growing up on the reservation she was okay with mascots and the term skins. when sunhe left, she saw it in nonnative's hands. it be came very problem atting to her. they did not know the, the native am can hist american his. don't know the plight of the native american. in the wrong hands.

the term itself, r word does have an impact on native americans. even itch yf you are from the reservation. >> you filed the petition from the fcc. this could be the game changer. the fcc chairman, seemed favorable. he promised to consider it. he said there are a lot of names, descriptions used over time that are inappropriate today. and he said, i think that name, that is attributed to the washington football club is one of these. so, given all of that. what do you think is going to happen here? what do you think the ruling is going to be, when? >> first thing, we'll be filing a similar complaint against stations in los angeles which has the largest urban population of indians. broadcasters are going to decide it is not worth their while to go through proceedings with licenses held up for years and years. and do the thing they should be doing all along. we will all be better off for it. used to have a team in washington we called the bullets. we changed it. the fans kept coming. >> clearly, debate with a lot of passion on all sides. going to have to stop there,

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>> major league baseball playoffs got under way this week. despite some cool extra innings barn burners, nothing yet matched the emotion of the final days of the regular season. and the sports farewell to its biggest star, derek jeter. we're going to discuss what jeter's departure means to baseball. first a clip from my interview with jeter this summer. i asked him what it has been like to have so many people emotional over his retirement i've gotten a lot of

appreciation, makes you feel good. whether it's fans, or player, or managers or coaches. just say they respect the way you play the game. makes you feel good. >> one and two on jeter. maybe his last step out as a yankee. at the coliseum. >> you have gotten gifts everywhere you have gone to. i think people have given you've pinstripe everything. the oddest object you received? >> i wouldn't say odd. all have been unique. the paddle board in anaheim. was pretty interesting. not going to be too active the first two months i retire. i have a lot of great things. >> has there been a moment, whisper of regret, i don't know about this? >> no, not at all. i am contnt wient with my decis. >> talked about possible post retirement plans, wanting to own a team one day, now that this is real are you thinking seriously about that? >> my first plan is no plan. i have been on a schedule pretty much i entire life.

i would look to take time to not make plans. that's my next dream. my next goal. who knows when it will happen. but it is something that, i would set my sights on. >> first, be a bum, hang out. then maybe george steinbrenner after that? >> well there is only one george stein steinbrenner. i would look to be as close to him as the i could. >> hey, michael jordan owns the charlotte hornets. wouldn't bet against jeter pulling off that same transition. of course that's not going to be immediate. want to bring in ian owe con thecon -- ian o'connor, wrote the best-seller "the captain." how big a deal do you think it will be to the sport to lose derek jeter as the its face here? >> a huge deal. this guy's life in baseball has been like "the truman show." losing the face of the game is a big deal. when darie i jeter was the face

yankees, and i think that was good for baseball. not having a significant figure. one who did represent the ideals that baseball wanted to put forth. derek jeter. i do think that is a big hit. the new commissioner, rob manfred will have to sort of find a guy to sell to the masses. that will be difficult. >> in your book you describe how jeter had an incredibly rough transition when heap made the jump to joining the yankees organization, crying, phone calls home from the minors. he is an adult now obviously. do you think the next transition for him is going to be harder than he thinks? >> he is off to a good start. his website. broke a story. funny. he learned something from sports journalists over the years. led with his best stuff. that's russell wilson saying that here is the -- used to beat people up when he was younger. rather shocking. everything he touches turns to gold. big question whether or not he is going to on a baseball team. and i would not be surprised if in, five, ten years, derek jeter is owner of the new york

yankees. >> ian. thank you. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you, rachel. off awe from one baseball icon to another. don't go anywhere. because after the break i sit down with the legendary cal ripken. will you soon see him back in the dugout? this time as a manager? the clock is tick. >> i'm at a point in my life if i was to decide to do something, pretty soon i would have to decide.

welcome back to unguarded. you don't have to be a baseball fan to know cal ripken and what he stands for. the sports ironman came to work every day. day after day for 16 straight years. more than 2,000 straight games

now. that he is retired you can hear him in the broadcast booth. he'll be calling the playoffs for tbs this weekend. will we see ripken taking the leap into managing a major league team. i asked him directly. take a listen. there has been speculation you are finally ready to get more deeply back into the game. how interested are you if some one come to talk to you about managing? >> i answer the question carefully all the time. i don't know how that is going to end up. i do know i have an inkling or need to, to test myself. i am at a point in my life to decide to do something, pretty soon i would have to decide. if you are going to get back in. it would have to be fairly soon. >> you have been doing all kind of things in your post baseball career. what fascinated me most was books for kids you have been writing. this isn't some vanity project. you are on your fourth one of these.

>> i always loved my influence that i had with kids. this one, squeeze play, about parents, putting pressure on their kids. i really wanted to highlight, some of the issues. from a kids' perspective. how do you deal with it. from a parents' perspective. maybe change my behavior. >> your dad coached your team at the major league level when you were with the orioles. people would ask your dad, coaching his sons, managing his sons. he would say all the players on my team are my sons. that didn't sit so well with you. >> no, there were time when dad downplayed that. the way to handle it. we group in professional baseball. it was normal for us. there were times when you wanted dad to be dad. i really wanted to grab him and say, hey, we're your sons. you know, we want you to say that. >> your son ryan, how much pressure is it on him to be the next generation of ripken baseball player? >> it is a terrible burdburden. the frob lproblem with the namee

are repercussions and expectations far greater. i can't shelter him. i give him perspective. he handles it pretty well. he is a good sized kid. he has some talent. but it is his situation. he has to deal with it. >> i do have to ask you about post playing career activities. you were named by the state department as diplomatic envoy. >> fancy title. >> jon stewart, yeah, going to send cal ripken to china. >> to get china to like us, we will send a guy they never heard of to crush them in a sport they never played. >> where was the funny part of that one? just kidding. i deon't look at as a diplomat. making friend. taking sport. value worldwide. using that sport to, to, be friends. kind of give a feeling of what it is like. there was a controversy over dennis rodman. should he been in north korea. >> i don't give a rat -- what

you think. i'm saying, look at the guys here. >> what do you think of the idea of sports di policemen splomacy? >> in general. it is much safer when you do it with the united states. than do it on your own and have to deal with all those, use. >> you think. >> sports can heal. many examples over time. end of my last year was, 2001. 9/11. really amazing how sports was able to, aid in the healing and the -- and the distraction of something that, that well all couldn't really get around. >> interesting stuff. i mean, certainly always thought provoking when sports reaches beyond the playing field. something cal ripken has done often in his post-baseball career. coming of on "unwarded" you will not want to miss the story of the nfl player who succeeded against seemingly impossible odds. that's right after this break. first our nikon unguard moment of the week.

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seattle seahawks derrick coleman isn't only managing to play this way, he won a super bowl playing this way. cnn's dan simon has his story. >> reporter: the nfl's reigning champs, seattle seahawks, every player on the team every professional athlete for that matter has their own personal journey. but few have had to overcome obstacles like fullback derrick coleman. >> definitely a blessing to be able to have the super bowl title underneath my name for the rest of my life. nobody can take that away. >> reporter: a title that no one would have predicted. at 3 years of age, derek lost his hearing. doctors determined it was angen. >> my right ear want out first. hearing was going down. next thing you know my left ear was leaving too. it was really profound. from the start. and kept getting worse and worse. >> reporter: ever since he can remember he has been wearing hearing aids. he is considered legally deaf. do you mind being known as the

football player who is deaf? >> i love it. you know the fact that because -- that's who i am. it made me who i am today. >> he was always bullied and teased in elementary school. not a little bit but a lot. they would call him four ears. go and want to knock his hearing aids out. >> derek's mother did everything she could to keep up his self-esteem. >> i told him. any body teasing you and bullying you they're beneath you, trying to pull you down. stay at your level. keep moving and pushing forward. >> they told me it couldn't be done. b that i was a lost cause. >> derek's determination displayed vividly in a commercial for duracell, viewed 22 million times on youtube. his story all the more inspiring because he wasn't even picked in the draft. >> and the last pick is -- >> they didn't call my name. told me it was over. but i have been deaf since i was 3. so i didn't listen. >> the story about my life.

and i got chills too. when you want something, find a way to make it work. don't let anybody or anything, derail you. >> coleman says the key for a deaf player like himself its to be able to read lips. because he can't filter the noise in a loud stadium. he has to keep his eye on the center snap to know when the play begins. as you can imagine he is an inspiring figure to the hearing impaired community. especially to children. here is just one piece of fan mail with a little girl cheering him on in the super bowl. i know how you feel. i also have hearing aids. just try your best, she wrote. how often do you get those kinds of letters? >> about two big boxes in my room. make no excuses for anything you do. if people say you can't do that. i will take that as fuel, motivation and prove them wrong again. dan simon, cnn, seattle. >> terrific stuff, dan. thank you. and thank you for joining us out here in los angeles this week.

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