video. he speaks perfect english. and officials believe he may be an american. despite a month of relentless air strikes, u.s. officials now say it's not if, but when the syrian town of kobani is taken by militants. how big a deal is this? also, definitely a big deal, authorities in britain say they have foiled a terror plot. we're covering every angle of these stories. beginning with cnn's pamela brown in washington. >> the fbi is turning to the public for help now after weeks of trying to figure out the identity of this isis militant we see in the isis propaganda video speaking fluent english and eric. it reflects the concern in the intelligence community of americans in syria who may have slipped through the cracks. the fbi is asking for the public's help identifying this jihadi speaking in what sounds like an american accent in an

isis propaganda video. for weeks, the fbi has been using facial recognition and voice analysis, trying to trace his accent and comparing him to what they find other americans that the intelligence community has been watching. the fbi director told "60 minutes" there are about a dozen americans currently fighting in syria. he's even more worried about the americans not currently on his radar. >> i don't know what i don't know. >> the severity part of a broader public appeal by the fbi to identify americans seeking to join jihadist groups fighting overseas. it comes on the heels of a 19-year-old chicago man arrested saturday. cnn has learned that mohammed khan wasn't on the fbi's radar until very recently. >> without this digital footprint, i don't think this young man would have been on our radar screen at all. >> he was in contact with someone online. when police arrested khan at

chicago's o'hare airport fbi agents were simultaneously searching his house, where khan's members refused to talk to reporters. notebooks found inside khan's home indicated he paid $4,000 for a round-trip ticket, flying from chicago to austria and then into turkey. >> it tells me probably that he was trying to evade being caught. by purchasing a round-trip ticket versus a single, one-way ticket. by spending more than the el cheapo ticket can you get and by not going direct. so he is more likely than not, not raising a red flag for intelligence services. >> and khan is expected to be back in court for a detention hearing on thursday. we have reached out to his attorney and have not heard back yet. chris in. >> of course pamela for the fascination with this young man, it's going to be about the contacts that he may have made and obviously that's the focus of the investigation. we know you'll stay on it and

we'll stay with you, thanks for the reporting in this one. to london now, where scotland yard has arrested four men on suspicion of plotting a terrorist act. the threat so dangerous that armed police, who are rarely used in london, assisted in that raid. specifics are scarce. but the city police commissioner calls it quote, a serious case. senior international correspondent nic robertson joins us live from london with the latest. >> the indications are this was a terror plot thwarted in its early stages. this was an interventionist act according to the police chief, that they decided to intervene. they're not saying why these precisely why these four men were arrested. however he has said this has ties and connections going back to iraq and syria. the indications therefore are that potentially this is linked to the isis group. of course british officials here very concerned that over 500 men have gone to syria. to join isis and other like-minded radical islamist

groups and they may come back and pose a threat here. the men being questioned, they continue to be questioned, the police have another 14 days or another 13 days now before they need to charge them. but at the moment, the indications are that this was a plot thwarted in its early stages, allison. >> nic robertson, thanks so much for the update. >> more information on what's going on here with the fbi and the terror plot in the uk, let's bring in daveed gartenstein-ross, and kirk lithole, former commander of the "uss cole." he was on the ship when it was attacked in 2000. i remember that attack and remember all your efforts to save the ship and secure the crew and help in the investigation. what do you make of the fbi asking for the help of americans? does that show an inability on

their part? or the new way of terror policing? does it tip a hand to how important this man is to them? >> i think it's an absolutely right thing to do. if you look at it, the fbi has spent considerable time already trying to narrow the focus. and figure out who this person is, where he might be from the united states. now that they may have narrowed the field within their own intelligence network and what they may know, they're asking the broader american public, by doing that, it's going to allow a number of hits across the board. and it will allow them to narrow more within their area, get more defined. and let's face it the fbi used the same technique when we were going after the boston bombers. it proves effective. and i think the american people see something, say something. this is what's going to pay off and help keep us safe. >> it seems effective from a detection standpoint daveed. but in terms of relevancy, why is this man so important? >> one of the reasons is he just showed up on a major propaganda

video and he's on camera actually executing people. something which is grisly, just like you had the man with the british accent who was involved in the foley beheading, which caused a mannive manhunt to try to determine exactly who he was. they want to determine who this man is with a north american accent who is committing battlefield atrocities on camera. >> there's a fascination with recruiting americans. we had the director of the fbi recently say they're misguided souls seeking meaning in some misguided way. how does that play into our understanding, or the united states' understanding of who isis is looking to find in the u.s., daveed? >> well, a number of ways. i mean one is, it's absolutely correct that people who are searching for meaning end up finding it in radical islam. it's one of the trajectories in radicalization. i don't think all individuals can be called lost souls, one can see the kind of bar barety they're inflicting and the

atrocities they're regularly committing. a number of people, rather than being lost souls, are i'distically finding meaning in the wrong place, many of them is much more sadistic, it's one of the more sadistic organizations we've seen. not all people who go over are not inherently bad, is an important part of cracking the very difficult radicalization puzzle. >> the hope is that the savagery of isis will play to disadvantage of other groups and alienate it. but we've yet to see that let's turn to the news in the uk. why is it, is it proximity to the rest of the world as opposed to the united states, that we see so much terror activity there. the head of the government saying 500 uk citizens may be fighting for isis. you know, we just had a couple of weeks ago, ten men arrested. now four men arrested. why so much activity there? >> well i think what you're seeing, chris, unfortunately, while the british may have been one of our closest allies for

decades now, you're seeing they reap what they sow. they have allowed people in their mosques to speak and radicalize a first generation and second-generation immigrants. they have a much more open society when it comes to that kind of free speech and allow people to do things, less controls on them. what you saw was a radicalization of these young men and in some cases women that have gone off to fight. their proximity to be able to migrate through europe, to get to the battlefield. they're much closer than the united states. and they did not have some of the capabilities electrically that we were exercising through the national security agents and others, in order to monitor, do some of the massive data that we were doing before, and so consequently, they weren't able to track them as well. that's why you're seeing the difference between the u.s. and maybe a dozen or more, versus great britain with, 500-plus. >> daveed, any defense that can be offered up to the uk

strategy? they are on severe now, restricting passports and doing a lot more aggressive maneuvers. is proximity part of the poison for them? or are they just behind the ball? >> proximity, they have many more people who have gone over to syria. which is due to a number of factors. not only proximity, but demographics and you'll also, the climate in britain as kirk alluded to, all of these are issues that have britain very much on alert. and viewing this as many other european countries do, as something that's much more than just a problem and actually approaching a crisis. >> quick take if each of you before i let you go. daveed, kobani. syrian border town, is this a key city? does it really matter if it falls to isis? >> no, it's not a key city strategically, it matters, because a lot of people will get slaughtered and that's an awful, awful thing. but isis coming to the turkish border, it's not a major crossing and it risks drawing turkey into the conflict.

>> that's the last point i want to you follow up on, kirk. why hasn't turkey put boots on the ground when it has one of the biggest armies in the world. it's gotten authorization from parliament. do you believe it could be a catalyst? >> i think it could be a catalyst. i tend to disagree, i think the fall of kobani will be strategic. despite our air strikes, we were unable to deter isis from taking this territory. it is going to have strategic impact. whether the turks get in or not, i think they're trying to play all sides at once. they want the fall of assad, they want to take down isis. they don't want to empower the pkk. so consequently they're indecisive and they're not committing to action, which at some point they're going to have to do to go in and get boots on the ground themselves. because being on the border is eventually going to come it their towns and cities. >> daveed, kirk, thank you very much for the perspective, gentlemen, appreciate it here on

"new day." ten minutes past the hour, a look at your headlines now, after two days of bitter debate in the house of commons, canadian parliament has voted to join u.s.-led air strikes against isis in iraq. that clears the way for canadian fighter jets to immediately participate in the mission. prime minister stephen harper applauded the outcome, saying it's imperative that canada works with its allies to stop the terror organization. in syria, officials revealed four previously undisclosed chemical weapons facilities, the u.n. special envoy overseeing the destruction of the stockpiles was told three of the facilities were for research and development. one for production, the news ramping up concerns that the syrian government hasn't fully been transparent, about its chemical weapons programs. all right. we've learned of the smart people who have scored the nobel prize in chemistry. americans eric betzig and

william moerner, along with german scientist stefan heil, they were honored for their work in optical microsoft. in the eyes of some supporters, vut vladimir putin god. an exhibit going on in moscow. supporters paid tribute to the president's 62nd birthday by hosting the exhibit. depicting the leader as hercules, taking out terrorists, happy birthday music video. among other tributes. pop quiz -- do you know the president's birthday of the united states? so many people know when his birthday is. of his supporters, i suppose. but no one knows when the president's birthday is. >> i think he's a leo. >> is he making that up? >> only halfway. >> i think that the president may be a leo.

>> i think vladimir putin may have done some of those drawings on his own. >> the globe on the shoulders, isn't that atlas? >> yes. >> he's more than one god. >> he was depicted as several. >> shirt off, killing lions, good for leadership, bad for leadership? michaela pereira, what do you say? >> i'm going to go no. >> bad? image of strength or image of too much. >> strength. slaying the lion? sure, why not. compare it with the golf club in your hand? it's different. >> obama is a leo, it was verified in my ear. which means it is fact. the nurse in spain, new developments for you, she is saying she did nothing wrong. she followed all of the safety protocols. so how did she contract ebola and what does it mean about how to control the spread? meanwhile, insult to injury, authorities in madrid are about to kill the couple's family dog. why? we've learned that pets can carry the disease.

a desperate play being made right now to get the dog out of quarantine and hopefully save him. and a key town in northern syria as you've heard is on the verge of falling into isis hands. some analysts say it would be a critical victory for the terror organization. so why is the white house downplaying this development?

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breaking news, the nurse's assistant infected with ebola in spain is speak out. she claims she followed protocol, and has no idea how she became infected. this, as spanish authorities getting a court order to euthanize her family dog, fearing it might spread the virus to humans. the nurse's husband also in quarantine, pleading to spare husband dog in a video posted online. joining us to talk about this is al goodman live in madrid outside the hospital. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen and dr. alexander van tullekin, senior fellow for the national institute for humanitarian affairs. al, what is the latest today from spain? >> hi, alison. the nurse's assistant and her husband are both in this facility behind me, she's the only confirmed case with the ebola virus. he's there as you said, on suspicion he might get it. their family dog is about 30

minutes south in a southern suburb. where they live. excalibur is the dog's name. we're told at this hour, that there are some 20 people outside the house, chanting, javier, teresa, the dog excalibur is not alone. there is a campaign which these people have been promoting to try to save their dog. officials are saying they may want to put it down because the dog doesn't get ebola. but the dog getting the fluids from them in their kitchen, on their couch, wherever, this is the concern that anything in that apartment could be a problem and that's what's happening right now. >> okay. al. thanks so much. dr. van tullekin, how big a risk to animals pose to spread the disease. >> the dog is a really central issue, it isn't some story trending on twitter because it's really cute. we know that ebola pose as great threat to apes and chimpanzees,

you can catch it from porcupines, fruit bats, armadillos, why don't know about dogs, i would say that's one of the reasons to keep this poor dog aline. it's easy to quarantine a dog. we can take blood samples, find out what's happening. it would be very useful to know this. we haven't got lab studies. >> elizabeth, in fact that is what the husband is pleading for, he's saying the dog is basically quarantined right now, he's alone in their apartment. and the husband said, that's, that was my situation, are you going to put me to sleep, too? >> it's an interesting question and dr. van tulleken has an interesting point, why not keep him alive to study him. i think it's really important to point out that as americans we think that our doctors know everything. and scientists know everything and the cdc, that they know everything. but that's not the case with something like ebola. we don't know what risks this dog poses. we just don't know. there's so many questions.

and so some authorities will you know sort of take the extreme and say let's just kill the dog. there's no sort of right or certain answer here. >> you know, it's not just the vigil that people are holding outside of the apartment trying to block authorities from getting in to euthanize the dog. there's an online petition, 86,000 signatures to spare the dog. what about the authorities' contention that if he is infected, the dog, that he is spreading it within the apartment and they would never be able to go back to the apartment. wouldn't the virus die in there? >> first of all, it does not seem to be a virus that survives well outside of the body and on skin, even on dog skin, your skin is covered with anti-bacterial agents, it seems very likely the dog is running around covered in someone else's ebola for a very long time. they're going to have to sterilize the apartment anyway. it seems to me, i think elizabeth's point is exactly right. the dogma about eebola we shoul

be very suspicious of. we still don't know a lot of things. >> what has the nurse's aide said about she thinks she contracted the disease? >> she really doesn't know, allison. she and authorities have said that she took all the steps she was supposed to. she had in some ways a relatively pretty dangerous job as a nurse's assistant. she was cleaning up fluids, thee was in the room when the priests died. she cleaned up afterwards. it's very, very brave to do this work. and the problem is with the protective gear, you make one mistake, you do one thing wrong putting it on or more importantly, taking it off because at that point it's contaminated and something can go wrong. we've seen hundreds of health care workers become ill and we really don't know in each case what exactly has gone wrong. >> yeah, al, in fact somehow a local reporter, a print reporter from el mundo was able to contact the nurse, she's in

isolation in the hospital behind you. he was able to make a phone call and she somehow picked up. he said that she sounded very weak. do we know what their exchange was? >> yeah. he has published a written report of that exchange and an audio report of that exchange in spanish. he said she gave very short sentences, what elizabeth is saying, she doesn't know how she got it and she's not aware that she did anything wrong and that is to how she's doing and what's happening with her, she didn't want to talk about that. so it was a relatively short interview. but "el mundo" was the first one to get it a day after they talked to her husband. >> doctor, she took care of two missionaries, she is the first person outside of africa to have contracted ebola. those two missionaries have since died. she says that she followed all the protocols, does that mean when she taking care of them would have been wearing a head-to-toe full protective suit? >> a very interesting question. it sounds like the gear she was given was permeable, the wrist

attachments were not that good. we don't know whether it was, it doesn't sound like it was the w.h.o. criteria suit for handling ebola. that's as far as we know. >> wrist attachments? >> you have to attach your gloves to your suit so you can't get any leakage between. what's very interesting is here, the cdc are actually saying at the moment if you're nursing an ebola patient or someone suspected of having ebola. you don't want to be wearing the full hazmat suit because it's terribly hot to work in. you can protect yourself fairly well with an impermeable gown and eye protection and mask and gloves. to be experienced enough wearing the suit and gear to deliver care. it's practical and most people can do. >> clearly something went wrong. dr. van tulleken, elizabeth cohen, al goodman, thank you so much for all the information. workers in liberia working frantically to stop the spread

of ebola we take you to ground zero of the bat toll stop the outbreak. the u.s. conceding the key syrian town of kobani is about to fall to isis. why is the white house saying it's not a major concern? charlie, the demand on this network, it is increasing by the second. it's crazy, huh? and people are relying on it more than ever.

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here's what we know, the syrian town of kobani is about to fall to isis. it is near the border with turkey. and isis has advanced despite heavy coalition air strikes. so turkey has put 20 tanks on their side of the border to keep isis out. but they aren't otherwise using their ground troops and the u.s. is playing down the potential victory's significance. the question is, is this just another town? or is that just spin and that would be a key loss, let's bring in senior international correspondent arwa damon, she is reporting live from the turkey border, where she just witnessed a giant explosion near the town. why don't you tell us what's going on and a little bit of context, people are saying there is a lot of media around kobani, you're giving it artificial significance. what's your take? >> well, there's a lot of media focus on kobani, but giving it artificial significance, that i think the people that have been trying to push isis back and the

civilians that are forced to flee will find that incredibly insulting. you can see the remains of a plume of smoke rising into the sky. just a short while ago we witnessed a massive explosion. we have been hearing fighters jets overhead. this explosion significantly louder than anything we had been hearing or seeing over the last few days. earlier we saw similar explosions further to the east. unclear at this stage if that was because of an air strike or not. there were similar explosions reported yesterday around kobani, but cent com has yet to come out and say they were firing during the day. they have struck numerous targets over last 48 hours, but those strikes taking place overnight. kobani is significant for a number of reasons. not to mention the humanitarian catastrophe that unfolded as isis swept through here. but no one can really afford to see kobani fall. there is the issue of that if it

does fall to isis, isis would have a clear logistical stronghold and transport route. and you have the dynamic between the kurds and the turks. the kurdish population is very frustrated and angry with the coalition. even though we're seeing air strikes taking place, they want to see more. equally frustrated and angry with turkey for not taking a more definitive military position. >> arwa, if that explosion is the sign of another air strike, we know they've been intensifying the attacks, it shows an urgency by the coalition, you make the most important point. whether strategically kobani is all-important, doesn't really matter, because the people there matter most and certainly there's been a heavy toll and it will get much worse if isis overcomes the city completely. ara, thank you very much. a lot of news to get to, your headlines now, the fbi asking for the public's help now, in identifying a masked man seen in this propaganda video

from isis. officials believe he is american. he speaks both arabic and english. he speaks with a north american accent. a portion of the video was posted on the fbi's website. officials are hoping someone might recognize his voice or his appearance or even both. four men now have been arrested on suspicion of plotting a terror attack in london. this threat was considered serious enough that armed police assisted in the raid. we do not know the specifics of what the men, all in their early 20s, were allegedly planning. these latest arrests come almost two weeks after police in the uk arrested at least ten other men on suspicion of terror offenses. confusion over a revised count of new voters in ferguson, missouri, in the wake of the michael brown shooting. the st. louis county election board has revised the number from almost 3300 to just 128. the director of elections says the original number was inflated because it included voters who

changed registration information. it had been believed, that protests that followed the shooting inspired a rash of new voters. all right. a little prank video promotion for a new halloween movie called "ouija." >> r. >> u. >> n. run! run! >> yeah. i would have run. new yorkers were given a chance to get a free ouija board reading and wound up getting scared out of their socks. the video is used to ramp up interest in the film which hits theaters october 24th. it is the eyeballs that have sent me. >> there are people who apparently can do that. i would have lost it.

>> that was scary enough. >> that was super-scary. >> ouija board, experiences as a child? >> it was a slumber party staple. it was, you would -- >> i still seek truth on it. >> true that you used it to discover things about yourself? michaela pereira, about boys and whether they liked you? true or not? >> maybe. >> nailed it. >> didn't end well. >> a rare moment for me to move on. >> it's too late to come back. >> meteorologist indra petersons, also known as the master of perfection keeping track of things in the latest forecast for us. >> i don't think anyone got to the point where we discovered anything. a lot of people screaming. no one ever got there. we have an erie day in the northeast. a lot of thunder and lightning, system making its way offshore. visibility issues for everyone trying to look up. we'll get to that in a second. keep in mind as the system makes

its way out we're talking about gusty winds, it could mean potential delays, boston could gust as high as 32. not too bad, but enough you're going to feel it especially if you have allergies. otherwise, temperature difference, we'll notice the cold front starting to bring showers to the middle of the week. temperature divide still exists, 50s not north, dallas looking for 91 degrees, if you're in the southwest, remnants of simon could bring some flooding. this is what everyone is talking about. the blood moon. almost like a super moon, it's so big out there and it is orange. so what is going on? the peak right now is now until about the next hour. the earth is going through, we're seeing the moon in the earth's shadow right now. not until it become as total lunar eclipse do you start to see all the reflections of the earth's sunrises and sunsets, to make this guy orange. send us photos, in you're in the northeast or southwest, there's some clouds out there. i'm still getting good shots.

people are sending me shots with clouds in the mix. you can still see it. >> no clouds in a place where it's beautiful, always. >> we need an ouija board. >> tonight is not the night to try it, it's scary. blood moon, responsible for any types of behavior changes? >> one of those, is it? >> lunatic, anything? >> nothing. every day is a crazy day here. we'll see what happens. please report any strange activity. u.s. troops, are they being set up for disaster? here's why the proposition is in play. ebola has killed more than 2,000 people in liberia. and now members of the u.s. navy are on the ground building labs and clinics trying to stop the virus from claiming more lives, are their lives in jeopardy. we take you inside their monumental effort. this shocking video of a police officer using a tazer on a man, after breaking his car

window, children were in the back. is this a case of excessive force?

the nurse who contracted ebola in madrid says she did nothing wrong. she tells spanish media she followed all protocols before she got sick. u.s. naval personnel now working around the clock to help save lives in ebola-stricken liberia. america has set up four labs in an effort to diagnose and treat potential victims. it's not an easy task. cnn's neema el bagr gives us a rare glimpse inside one of those labs. >> this is what we do in our day job. >> the u.s. naval personnel deployed to liberia, has become testing for the ebola virus, their lab just minutes from international medical ebola care center. the u.s. has funded four such labs in the fight against the virus. >> a complete game-changer.

some patients have only minor symptoms and they're not convinced they have ebola. so they might a avoid coming because they're afraid they'll become infected here. now that we have the lab patients can get the results back within hours. >> perched on top of a hill, the treatment facility feels very far away from the crowded beds and dangy hallways of the liberia government centers. this 19-year-old waited a week for an ambulance. he was carried here bleeding by his father. today he's recovered enough to tell us he thinks he's going home. >> but there will always be those they couldn't save. the imc treatment center opened less than a month ago. and already, a line of graves has snaked through this clearing in the jungle and more are being dug. president obama has authorized up to 4,000 troops. a few hundred have arrived in countries, 600 are expected before the end of the month. but will it be enough? >> there's no question in my

mind that we're making an impact. there is no better fight worth fighting than the one in liberia right now. soldiers are used to moving toward the sounds of the guns. these are the loudest guns that the world has heard in a long time. >> cnn, liberia. incredible glimpse there. well the video is shocking. it's a police officer smashing a car window and tazing a passenger. after a routine traffic stop. how can this be justified? we will debate that. and something far less controversial -- the new cnn series "roots" our journeys home kicks off on sunday. has a lot of us digging into our histories, including yours truly. >> i can't wait to see your trip to italy. >> very surprising, even to us, it turns out my real name is federico. kidding, the series runs across all of cnn next week. here's a look. >> they travel the world to chase the story. but not just anyone's story,

their own. >> it will be a journey of surprises. >> the story of how they came to be. >> i had a great, great, great, great grandfather come to paraguay around the 1850s. >> my grandparents died here. >> this is where my great grandmother was begin up for adoption. >> my dad's report card going back to 1944. >> the records go back 40 generations. >> when we found out there's people here related to us, that's when it felt real to me. >> now they share those stories with me. >> it's like going back in time. >> my colonial ancestors were on the wrong side. >> it was like coming home. >> join the familiar faces of cnn as they trace their roots. all next week, starting sunday on cnn. cnn money time, brought to

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point of view. >> ha was good, thank you, christine. police tactics under the microscope again for good reason. take a look at this. >> if you can pull out a gun, there's two kids in the back seat. >> do you understand? >> no, no, i'm not the operator. >> if you do that, all right. i'm not, i'm not the operator of this vehicle. >> are you going to open this door. >> why do you say people won't hurt you, people are getting shot by the police. >> on the ground. >> this video being taken in the back seat by a kid. and it is of cops in indiana breaking a window, tazing that guy in the passenger seat during a routine traffic stop. and the kids in the back seat got hit with glass, they say the passenger, jamal jones refused to produce i.d. that's what the cops say and refused to get out of the car.

for 13 minutes that will be key in this investigation by the way. all the while, the cops also say he reached behind him. and when he did, they feared he was reaching for a weapon. now he says he didn't leave the car because he was scared of the cops and a weapon was never found in the car. and all of this, from a seat belt violation and not even his girlfriend, who was driving, she wasn't involved. so now they're suing the cops for excessive force and false arrest among other things. what is the legal situation here and what is the right versus wrong of it? let's bring in former new york city prosecutor and cnn loyal analyst, mr. paul callan and mo ivory. attorney and radio host. this story appeals to the heart. let us begin with the head, okay? paul, what is the legal basis? when a cop makes a traffic stop, what are they allowed to do? >> well, the supreme court of the united states actually had a series of cases about this. in the late 1990s. they had two cases, the mims

case and the wilson case. when you make a routine traffic stop the chief justice said the danger that passengers pose to police officers is so great that the police officer without even reasonable suspicion can order the passengers out of the vehicle. as well as the driver. so the supreme court has said, what the indiana cops did is perfectly legal for the safety of police officers. >> what they did meaning asking for the i.d.ings asking him to get out of the car were legal. >> correct. >> so now we go to, what they do when he doesn't get out of the car. let's assume that not giving them the i.d., not getting out of the car was wrong. so now what should have the cops done, mo? >> well first of all, under indiana law when you ask a passenger in a car for i.d., they do not have to give you that i.d. under indiana law. you can ask them to get out of the car, but they do not have to produce an i.d. but that is not even what

happened in this case. he told the officers, i don't have my license, because it was taken because of an insurance violation. but i do have the ticket to show you that my license was taken. why don't i give you that? that was not enough for these officers, so of course, they will go to well we have reasonable suspicion that he had a gun in the car. because every black man has a gun in the car. this is the problem. an officer can always say, i was fearing for my life. i thought that he was reaching for something. he was reaching for the piece of paper that you asked him for. >> that harkens us to the case that happened just a week or so ago. >> in south carolina. >> the man was going for what the cop asked him for and he got a shot a lot by the police officer for his efforts. let's not go to race yet, mo, i know you're going to say i'm avoiding the obvious. but the man and the woman in the car were not just noncompliant, they were openly defiant of the

police officer. >> i disagree. disagree. >> i don't know the indiana law, i'm trusting you that there is a law somewhere that says, you don't have to offer i.d. to a cop. >> wait, wait, chris, what you just said was that the driver and the passenger were openly defiant. that is not true. that is what the officer is saying. >> that's what i'm saying. that's what the cops said, not my opinion. >> the law says that you don't have to have reasonable suspicion, you don't have to think he's reaching for a gun. chief justice rehnquist said you can tell the passengers to get out of the car for whatever reason. >> with no suspicion. forget about them reaching for the gun. >> the cops say they were openly defiant. do you agree with in a. >> i don't care about the open defiance, i'm looking at police

officers surrounding a car for 13 minutes and saying to the passengers -- get out. and they're refusing to get out. now, have you ever heard of a situation? mo, have you heard of a situation involving another car where for 13 minutes, could you please answer the question, give me another case where passengers remained in a car, of any race, for 13 minutes, refusing to obey the cops? one case in the united states. i've never heard of one. >> i'm sure you haven't. >> have you? >> a lot of people have never heard of one. let me tell you something, he had every reason to not want to get out of the car. >> that being what? he doesn't like the police? >> he could have been in danger getting out of the car. >> and that's what you're failing to address. >> so make the point, mo. this is not about paul. please listen. this is not about the 13 minutes and why didn't they just get out of the car. this is about the excessive rampant force that something used against black men. this man was a passenger in a car. >> i did not hear racial

epithets used by the police officers. i did not hear a single reference to race. >> paul, let me finish. why didn't the police officer offer them a police escort to the hospital? to see her dying mother? why does the disrespect happen from the second the stop happens? it doesn't matter if he was -- >> maybe he would have if they had gotten out of the car like the cops asked. >> mo -- >> mo -- mo. >> this is a prop! >> there's no question, it's a problem, agreed, undebatable. and easily demonstrable. we can show it again and again. but you do have to look at every case. because you have these 13 minutes, what does that show us? why does it matter? you can't say it doesn't matter at all. it does show that here's why it matters, mo. because these cops didn't immediately jump to doing the wrong thing. they eventually got to being excessive. but they didn't start there. >> chris, they started by

stopping the woman for a seat belt violation. and automatically questioning the passenger in the car. the second that the woman said, i am trying to get to my dying mother at the hospital, where is the protect and serve in that? where is the compassion? where is the respect? >> i hear you, but if you talk to cops, you know the number one thing they're told by white, black, green and yellow when they pull them is -- white, black, green and yellow. >> everybody says i have an emergency. but you just -- absolutely believe that if this is had been a white couple or an asian couple, this would not have happened, true? >> chris. no doubt this wouldn't have happened. a white officer just pulled a white woman over the other day because her child wasn't in a car seat. did she get arrested? did her child get threatened to go to child protective custody? no, he went to a store he bought her a car seat. he put the child in the car seat. he let her go. and then he got on the news.

and then he got on cnn. did that happen? >> these cases are -- >> that was on this show, mo. >> i want to be clear, the cops overreacted and mishandled the case, we know that, because there was no weapon in the case, there was no danger. >> but four indiana cops were killed last year in line of duty shootings, the most dangerous thing that happens with a cop is when they approach a car to give a violation. >> and every black man is carrying a gun. >> mo, hang on for a moment. >> that's the most dangerous situation a cop faces. and when you, approach a car and you ask the passengers to step out, and they refuse for 13 minutes, i'm not surprised that this escalated. it would not have escalated if the passengers complied with the request. >> look, this situation -- hold on, mo, mo. >> the saddest part is that you're not surprised that it escalated. that's the saddest part. >> i'm not surprised. that could be for various reasons. one, when you get into it with it the cops, bad things

invariably happen. and that could be true as well, we needed to have our heads wrapped around this. paul, thank you for that and it certainly evokes passion, mo and thank you for bringing that to the show. because that's what we need to have the discussion for. yes, we do. >> thank you for being a part of it. mo ivory, paul callan. be sure to join don lemon tonight for his interview with the family involved in the incident. to learn more about what happened and why there are some facts in dispute. cnn tonight airing at 10:00 p.m. eastern. following that story. there's a lot of news to get to so let's do that. >> the fbi is asking for the public's help identifying this jihadi speaking in what sounds like an american accent. >> he's murdering terrorist, it's important for us to find out who he is. four men are under arrest in london. >> a terror plot tlorted in its early stages. >> we must do everything we can

to defeat this organization. anger and fear in the streets of madrid. >> a second nurse's assistant is under observation for a fever. >> the enemy is ebola. good morning, everyone, welcome back to "new day." i'm alisyn camerota alongside chris cuomo. the fbi this morning is hoping the public can help them identify a masked english-speaking terrorist seen in this isis recruitment video. let's all have a listen. >> they lie. we are the -- and the flames of war are only beginning to intensify. and we're here with the soldiers of bashar, you can see them dig their own graves in the very place where they were stationed. >> four men are under arrest in the uk suspected of plotting a terror attack. we're covering it all for you. starting with cnn's pamela brown in our washington bureau. good morning. >> good morning to you, alisyn.

>> after weeks of trying to figure it out, the fbi doesn't know for certain, that's why it's asking for the public's help identifying this man here. intelligence officials have been using facial recognition, voice analysis to trace his north american accent and comparing what they find to other americans in the intelligence community. they've been watching and using human sources to try to figure this out. but after scrutinizing everything, it's still unclear who he is and where he comes from. it appears he's not someone who is on the fbi's radar and that's what is so concerning. if he is an american, you know the fbi director, james comey said his biggest fear is what he doesn't know. not knowing about americans currently in syria, falling with isis, those who may have fallen through the cracks and the hunt for this militant is part of a broader campaign by the fbi to identify any american who may have traveled overseas to fight

with terror groups or those who want to travel. >> we're going to go to the uk. there was a possible terror plot thwarted there. scotland yard arresting four men. how imminent was the threat? let's bring in cnn international correspondent nic robertson joining us live from london with the latest. what do we know? >> chris, what we hear from the police is these men are held on suspicion of preparing, of either preparing or instigating a terrorist plot. what the police believe is that they have thwarted potentially in its early stages, a plot here in britain. the chief of police here says this was a serious case. that this was an interventionist act that they took by going in and arresting these people. again they're not saying how close they believe this plot, this potential plot was. but they're also saying that the links here go back to iraq and

syria. so although they're not saying this has direct ties to isis, it certainly, they're certainly giving that impression. there are 500, at least young british men who are believed to have left this country, gone to fight in syria, with isis or other radical islamist groups. and the real concern here, and the fear is that some of them may have come back. and officials here have seen in recent weeks how australian police arrested 15 men on suspicion of about, on suspicion of potentially perpetrating acts of beheadings on the streets of sydney. so this is the background that we're hearing here, to these arrests at the moment, chris. >> they're gruesome beheading in the uk as well. they've raised their terror level. so clearly they have a lot of work on their hands, we appreciate the reporting this morning. alisyn? >> for more, let's bring in tom fuentes a cnn law enforcement

analyst and former assistant director for the fbi and will geddes, manager of international corporate protection. let's talk about how the fbi is looking for the public's help in identifying this isis fighter. tom, let me start with you. let me play a little clip for you. you can hear this man first speaking in arabic. and then speaking in english. listen to this. [ speaking foreign language ] >> we're here in the 17th division military base just outside the city of raqqa. here with the soldiers of bashar al assad, can you see them digging their own graves in the very place where they were stationed. the very place where they were stationed, terrorizing the muslims in raqqa. >> he has them digging their own graves, it's so sickening to watch that what do you hear and see when you watch that clip? >> to be honest, when i hear that clip, he does not sound like a native american speaker to me. he sounds like somebody who is possibly has a middle east accent.

and then was taught english. he speaks english fluently, there's no question. but it doesn't sound native to me, but i'm not the language expert apparently in this case. >> you're sort of rejecting their notion that we've been told that he is from somewhere in north america. will what do you see when you see that clip? >> well i have to concur with what tom is saying. i think it will be too narrow a search to try to look at this as a domestic american who has goon over there. certainly when you look at a lot of the education facilities in the middle east, much of the local language or a lot of the teachings come in with very much an american slant. and the accents. so i think again, the search has to expand quite significantly. to not just focus on the u.s. >> so tom, all we see are his eyes. where is the fbi begin to identify somebody in. >> well that's tough. what they're hope something that somebody, a friend or someone member of the family knows this person and may be you know, will

identify him to the authorities. the fbi and law enforcement intelligence services throughout the world do not have every single person's voice available to compare. contrary to what people may believe in the era of snowden, they just don't have everybody's voice to match it to. so it's going to take somebody that knows this person, that recognizes not just his voice, but he's moving around, the physical mannerisms, the tilt of his head, the look of his eyes. you know, all of that combined, if somebody knows this person, will help them identify them. and hopefully cooperate and identify him. >> tom, you make a great point. will, this guy has to somehow already be in the system for any sort of voice recognition or facial recognition to work. >> yeah. i mean again, as tom was saying, it's going to be human sourced intelligence that's going to identify this individual. the one thing we know is that many different international persons are joining the ranks of

isis from across the world. so in terms of trying to determine exactly where they came from, necessarily, is going to be very hard. so it will fundamentally come down for the law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies to through to determine anybody who recognizes that voice. if you think in some respects that could be quite difficult, you also have to bear in mind that whenever you receive a phone call from a colleague or even an associate, you are quite often recognize the voice quite quickly. we have a signature to our voice. so it is spreading this message is wide and far as possible, to try to determine if anybody knows this voice. and like tom was saying, physical shape, mannerisms, tilts to the head, anything else which can give us an indication beyond being able to see their eyes. >> let's in fact, congressman peter king was talking about just how challenging this is. identifying this person, as well as the entire fight against isis. let's listen to what he had to say yesterday. >> he's a murdering terrorist

and it's important if he is an american, for us to find out who he is. not just individuals we're looking for, it's really the whole web of conspirators who have left the united states to go to syria. and as director comey said the other night, what we really fear is what we don't know. >> tom, what we really fear is what we don't know. what does that mean? >> it means we don't know everybody that knows this person. if he's an american or spent a great deal of time in the u.s. or canada, who were his friends here? is he in contact with them? is he trying to recruit other people? he could be part of a much larger network propaganda machine. recruiting machine. and we would want to identify all associates of his involved in trying to get people over and fight for isis. and then involved in these direct murders of hostages. >> you know, will, it does work. asking the public for help, it does work. all of the manhunts, john walsh can tell you how successful it is to have millions of eyeballs

on the target. there is a chance that someone will recognize that voice and will know him. what do they do? how do you go about connecting with the authorities if you're willing to help with an international terrorist? >> well, you know, again, very, very good point. cover your first one, general public involvement in contribution is critical. in the same ways as when we raised threat levels as we have over here in the united kingdom in the last few weeks. this is not just to put people on alert. but it's also to put people on alert with a purpose. that purpose is, to report anything suspicious if they see activities, that they deem to be suspicious. reporting it through to the counterterrorism unit. now, beyond that point, it's also important to get the general public involved. in trying to find the solution. we look at thes incident that occurred. the nic was talking about, the four individuals arrested. the soft borders we have through turkey into iraq and into syria,

make it incredibly easy for people to get into theater and out again. and it's suspected that certainly of the four individuals that were apprehended yesterday, one of them is believed to have returned certainly from isis' operations down in that region. >> will geddes, tom fuentes, thanks so much for the expertise, this is a call to action, if you know anything, call your local fbi office. let's go over to michaela for more news. here are your headlines, the fall of kobani believed by many to be a key syrian town to isis is now a done deal. they say they're not concerned with this town. u.s. official says their goal is to target isis leadership and infrastructure in syria, not to save cities and towns. stunning allegations, against "7th heaven" star stephen collins. reportedly shows the actor confessing to child molestation, the recording ways made during a

2012 therapy session with his estranged wife, faye grant. collins cannot face charges with an alleged victim went to police because the statute of limitations has expired. an investigation continues to see if there are more victims. collins claims his wife peddled the tape in an effort to extort money from him. americans are living longer. this according to a study by the national center for health statistics, the average life expectancy in the u.s. is now 78.8 on average. that's up just a bit. researchers found increases across all demographic groups from 2011 to 2012. women outlive men by an average of 4.8 years. shocking video out of louisiana. a freight train crashing into a truck that was stranded on the tracks. the truck was hauling a crane. luckily the truck driver managed to escape. the train conductor was treated

at a local hospital for nonlife-threatening injuries. a lot of people were commenting why didn't you call 911, why were you so busy recording this? apparently they were stopped right in front of a police station so they knew the police would deal with it. that was a frightening thing to see. >> thank goodness he got out. every time you see that, it is an instinct where you say, why didn't the train stop? there's zero chance. >> it eventually will stop. >> something that heavy being able to stop in time. that's why we do so much to try to keep people away from the crossings. we do have breaking news for you this morning. the cameraman infected with ebola has received reportedly received the blood of another american survivor. this has happened before. you'll remember this one of the first doctors we heard about. the question is, will this save him? this as a nurse's assistant infected in spain is fighting to save her dog. authorities believe the dog may be able to spread ebola and they want to put it down. what's going do happen? straight ahead.

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brantley he was diagnosed with ebola and brought back to the u.s. and cured. a nurse in spain who contracted ebola said she followed all protocols before she got sick. her dog will also have to be put down, say authorities. because of concerns that it may have gotten the virus. all of this raising serious concerns about whether proper precautions were taken to prevent and contain the virus. let's bring in christian am pour. do we believe the risk is great anywhere europe. we're hearing there's more cause for concern. is that true? and why? >> clearly governments and health systems are on high alert. the british government is holding british prime minister david cameron, the security meeting that he chairs in spain. the prime minister today has urged calm around the country. because of this issue with this spanish nurse, and some of those, doctors and nurses and

medical workers at the hospital are protesting about this and saying that our health is not secure. but of course, obviously in the west, it's much, much easier to deal with this. because there are specialized units all over in very developed health systems to be able to deal with it. but it's a question of knowing how and when and when these people come. now the united nations has announced just in the last minute or so, that one of its medical workers in liberia, the worst west african-hit nation has contracted ebola and is being treated on the ground there. i spoke to the liberian minister, ambassador here in england yesterday as they wait for the u.s. military help to get up and work there in liberia. he in our conversation showed the total dysfunction of liberia's health system. listen to this. >> you only had 200 doctors for four million people. how can you even begin to get a grip on this? >> we have no choice.

that's even better than what we met when the president sirleaf got in. when president sirleaf got in, we had seven doctors. seven liberian doctors. by the time the ebola situation caught on, we were about almost 200 doctors. so we were climbing slowly, but surely. >> so you can see, chris, from that, how incredibly fragile the systems are. trying to deal with this epidemic in west africa. on the other hand, go to nigeria, where they have dealt with their epidemic. the finance minister, nigeria, the most populous country in africa, the biggest, richest country in africa they've dealt with it. they're saying not just people are dying, but there's a contagion of fear, a psychological impact across africa that is harming economies and could hit economy there is to the tune of tens of billions of dollars.

>> the fear is spreading as a contagion much faster than the actual virus, in the uk as you know, there are significant flight restrictions from major carriers to and from liberia. how is that being received? is that being seen as prudence? or is it being seen as panic? >> not panic. it's being seen as prudence, british airways, the national carrier, which has decided to do that. not just to liberia, but also to sierra leone. some will say that's excessive. others will say hang on, some of these cases are contracted precisely through passenger travel. the u.s. is screening, increasing screening around airports, there's no ban on u.s. flights as far as i know at the moment. >> not yet. >> so this is an issue. now later today, i'm going to be talking to the general in charge of the u.s. military effort in liberia. where 3,000 personnel have been sent to build a temporary big

medical facility. plus take some pop-up facilities around the nation. plus try to train and equip liberians to deal with this epidemic. because liberia is the worst hit. more than 2,000 have been killed by ebola in liberia since it first erupted. >> there's a new level of concern. because of what we learn with the auxiliary nurse in spain and i saw auxiliary nurse on purpose. it's our understanding she wasn't a first-line responder or treater of victims. and therefore, she may not have been given the same safety equipment that a first-line person was. that's the same thing you hear about the u.s. troops, cristiane, they're not going to be directly dealing with anybody infected with ebola. we'll be able to be okay with them. maybe this is teaching us that the realm of who's safe in,ing would around ebola patients is a little bit more suspicious than we first thought. >> well clearly i'll put that question to the general in charge. and also i'll be speaking to the

u.s. ambassador in monrovia, liberia at the same time. we're obviously going to ask those questions. the pentagon has said that u.s. troops will not come directly in contact. and i'll ask exactly how then they plan to do the train, equip and helping and who will be the medical personnel on the interface between those who got the disease and those who are trying to save lives. >> and it's important as we try to reinforce the urgency of the situation, no irony that the united states, a dog, excalibur his name is we know his name, which lets you know how much americans care about pets in general, the spanish nurse's dog now may be put down because dogs may be able to communicate the virus and that has everybody in a whole new sense of urgency here in the united states. whatever it is, that takes them to get tuned in. i guess is fine. that's something we'll be following as well. christi christiane amanpour, thank you for the perspective on what's happening in africa, the uk and here in the u.s. thank you. thanks, chris.

how do you track what cristiane is doing? that part is easy, you watch "amanpour" on cnn international. so how effective is enhanced screening against ebola? we will put one new tool to the test in our studio. we'll show you how thermal imaging works when michaela tries it. and president obama has been largely on the sidelines this election season. the first lady is out tearing up the campaign trail. we'll have more "inside politics."

26 minutes past the hour. your headlines on "new day." the fbi is turning to you, the public for your help in identifying an english-speaking extremist seen orchestrating the execution of prisoners in another chilling isis recruitment video. officials are hoping that someone will recognize this man through his voice and appearance. four men have been arrested on suspicion of plotting a terror attack in london. considered serious enough that armed police assisted in the raid. we don't know specifics of what the men were allegedly planning. but we will continue to follow the story for you. look at the pictures. a lunar eclipse in the skies over the united states. it just ended. the window closed to see it around 7:24. it's called a blood moon. you could see it for about an hour. it turn as burnt reddish-orange. the second in a series of four blood moons, the next ones are

in april and september of next year. so mark your calendar, especially if missed this one. remember the rock the vote ads, they're back right in time for mid-term elections. what's up. lena dunham showing off her dance moves. and other celebrities making cameos like natasha leone from "orange is the new black." others telling us why they're voighting. hoping ads will reach the younger generation. dance their way to the polls come election time. >> the need is great, younger voters outvote older voters in presidential elections. in the cycle most recently measured from 1992. >> in mid terms -- >> the other way around. >> a low level of enthusiasm as opposed to 2008 and they're t trying to gin them up with dance moves. >> i feel like more needs to be done. >> i know who can do that?

>> john king, that's whey says his name is "inside politics" on "new day." there's the man himself. always enthusiastic about the mid terms, good morning. >> i'm enthusiastic, but john king and dancing do not belong in the same sentence. >> i've seen you dance, move like a sultry scirro. >> let's go "inside politics" this morning, 27 days away from the mid-term elections. with me to share reporting, nia-malika henderson of the "washington post" and. let's focus on north carolina, kay hagen a democratic incumbent. six months ago it was thought she was toast but in the final stretch she has a narrow lead. tom tillis the republican, state house speaker, the republican candidate. this is close. listen to the debate. you could take this theme and take it across the country. the democrats says the

republicans are cold, they don't like the little guy. the republican says, you're too close to the president. >> speaker tillis, it is not how you grow up. it is how you treat people as a grown-up. and folks, speaker tillis has slammed shut the window of opportunity for so many people in our state because of his policies that have harmed north carolinians. >> senator hagen went to washington and became a rubber stamp for president obama's failed policies, voting with him 96% of the time. >> you could almost, nia-malika henderson, go from state to state and give the democrats the hagen line and the republicans the tillis line. >> they're not necessarily a national election, this is the strategy that you've seen. kay hagen is very much out-performing what people thought she would partly because the third-party candidate is in there and taking votes away from tillis. he's got african-american voters down there who will likely support her.

you saw in that there's a michelle nunn and david purdue debate. he tried the same line, the whole idea of tying her to obama and she said, listen obama is only in for the next two years, there are going to be many presidents after obama and we're going to have to have somebody who can work across the aisle and with all presidents that come later. i thought that was a pretty good approach to that attack. >> comeback. democrats trying to find the good comeback. because republicans wouldn't be doing this in state after state if they didn't think in most of them, it was going to work. >> the second anyone saw the president saying his policies are on the ballot. even though he isn't, they jumped all over it. because they think it works, this is their message. this is, as they say, the "seinfeld" election. an election that isn't about really anything. except a referendum on the president, who happens to be pretty darn unpopular. so many red-state candidates who are running as fast as they can.

>> if you look at "the new york times" today,ed lead story, the president as tamara just noted, isn't welcome out there. you'll see the president raising money and making recorded phone calls for turn-out. but you're not seeing him in any of the big senate races because he's so unpopular. his wife is out a little bit. here she is yesterday, listen to michelle obama this is the sequel. >> now as you all know, i was just here in wisconsin last week. so i'm sorry if you're getting sick of me, but i'm back. but there's a reason why i wanted to come back. i wanted to come here to madison to talk a little more with a lot of you, particularly our young people. who are here. i want to you think about all the change we've seen these past six years under this president, barack obama.

>> younger people tend to drop out in mid-term elections, drop off dramatically. but even here, she's out more than her husband, but she's going back to wisconsin, back to the governor's race, because even michelle obama is not being invited into some of these senate races where we thought we might see her. >> she's been in illinois, wisconsin, she cut an ad in illinois for the governor's race there. she has been in georgia, though. but it was sort of a different type of rally. it was like a get out the vote rally. she is quite good at connecting with that, you can call it the coalition of the people african-americans, young folks, women, a great message to the folks who want to remember the old fire that they remembered from 2008 and 2012. >> my favorite line or quote in the piece from steve israel a democratic congressman from new york. he helps democrats get elected.

he said this of the president, in california, illinois and new york, the president is very helpful. ouch. i know he's trying to say something nice. >> everywhere else -- no. >> in three of the bluest, deepest blue states in america, the president is welcome. but please stay away everywhere else. >> and conveniently they have a lot of money in those states. >> the president hasn't done big public rallies, he's done a lot of closed-door fundraising. when i was talking about the obama administration last week they were saying we have three things to do to help where we park the plane isn't one of them. one is fundraising, one is the big data machine, their get out the vote stuff. the stuff we don't really see. and the other one is framing the message. so i guess they maybe put too fine a point on that with the president's speech last week. >> the president has raised a ton of money. i'm interested to see in the final days that the calculation changes that any of these candidates who need to gin up

african-american turnout. and think i'm going to lose otherwise, let's take the rick. the other big conversation in washington is about leon panetta's book. leon panetta, the former c.i.a. chief, defense secretary, very critical of the president says number one, the president should have pounded his fist and told the iraqis were going to leave troops in iraq. leon panetta said if he would have been tougher there, perhaps the isis threat wouldn't have been as bad now. listen to him in an interview with cnn questioning the president's philosophical approach. >> he relies on the logic of his presentation with the hope that ultimately people will embrace that logic and then do what's right. you know what? in 50 years my experience is logic doesn't work in washington. >> in the book he also says he thinks the president too often avoids the battle, complains and misses opportunities. this one hurts, because it comes from somebody who was once so close. >> yeah, i mean this was tough stuff. and you're right, they were once close and you've had a succession of these folks, robert gates, the same thing,

his book was critical of the president. clinton, in some ways also critical of the president. now you have panetta. one of the things about these three figures is they were big figures in washington in their own right before president obama. so that are make-or-break, especially if they're not going to be in politics any more, except for hillary clinton is not as much of a risk for them. >> with friends like these -- >> thank you for joining us. let's continue with this jimmy fallon last night listened to the white house rationale for leon a pa netta's book and didn't buy it. >> the white house dismissed former defense secretary leon panetta's criticisms of president obama saying he's faced some of the most difficult issues of our time. which would have been a great defense if every president didn't face the most difficult issues their time. that's what a president does.

>> jimmy fallon knows the job description. >> makes a good point. many people are questioning the timing, not just jimmy fallon. john, thanks so much. some amazing technology, in the fight to keep you safe from ebola. one of the tools is thermal imaging. we have the actual equipment here and we'll show you how to spot these hot spots. on people's bodies. and after seven months, a new theory, a new video in the disappearance of mh-370. it may be easier than we thought to take over a plane mid flight. aviation expert miles o'brien explains how. we put all the apps you love...

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the center force disease control say they are planning to increase the level of airport screening to detect people who may have ebola before they're allowed into the united states. so far, liberia, sierra leone and guinea are doing temperature checks of all out-bound flyers and fever scanners have been put in several schools in dallas where thomas eric duncan is undergoing treatment for ebola.

and alexander van tulleken, senior institute at fordham university and the bridge barton, the technical director of opto-therm, who has brought one of the devices here to demonstrate for us. kind of cool to see the technology being used this way. rich, let's talk about it. tough right in front of us, it looks a bit likeny other radar, a robert and we have one of our fantastic volunteers, how does it work? >> all objects, including human skin emits infrared energy. and the hotter an object is the more infrared energy it emits. this system is based upon a thermal imaging camera that can detect that infrared energy and quantify it and then measure it. >> like with the police or the military have used before we've seen? >> very similar. this is very high precision thermal imaging camera. >> let's try it out.

we have our volunteer, it's taking his core temperature? >> what it's doing is, reading the inside corners of his eyes, the temperature. >> why there? >> that provides the best correlation with internal body core temperatures. >> we usually take temperature under our tongue or in our ear. what is a normal temperature for the human body? >> inside the middle of your body, the temperature should be about 98.6 degrees. what we're looking for -- >> running just a bit high. that's fine. >> what we'd be looking for in the ebola screening is to look for temperature over 101.4. >> can we artificially create that? >> now, the fever is the one thing they know for sure that indicates there's a problem here. potentially ebola, right? >> let's not forget you can get a fever for hundreds of other reasons. you can have a high temperature because of exercise, inflammation, hormonal imbalances and other things, let

alone tropical diseases. >> things have turned bad for john here, he does have a temperature. this is what would alert the person around the machine, correct? >> the fever can be indicated on the forehead, the face, the cheek. the inside corners of the eyes. as you can see, in most cases, the eyes are the highest temperature on the human face. >> next step would be then after this initially shows this person has a fever, the screening would then go where, then? >> so then you isolate the person and you start to ask them questions, and start to narrow down -- travel history, how they're feeling, specific symptoms, any other medical symptoms that could be giving them a fever. >> and they have to be honest, correct? >> very reasonably, people who think they may have been exposed to ebola, may well be seeking care and may not want to divulge their full travel history. they're not bad people, but they're doing a rational thing and the system has to take that into account. >> they would dot screening, it could take anywhere between hours to potentially days, could

it not? >> depending on how many staff you've got. how many people with fevers you've got, what region of the world you're screening. you're talking about a lot of people. >> i could see the benefit of using something like this on outgoing flights, right, and then incoming because we know one of the concerns is that people could test clear of a fever getting on the plane, a long flight and like we've seen in past cases where somebody does develop a fever on the plane. >> the screening, airplane passengers is a very good application for this technology. because all the subjects that will be screened have been exposed to the same environmental conditions for a significant period of time. minutes, even maybe even hours in a terminal, on the plane. and that provides better correlations with body temperature. >> the speed by which you're doing it, it's amazing you could have this at hospitals and schools. is it an unbearable cost? >> the system is about $20,000.

>> and you're leasing them or people are buying them? >> they're for purchase. >> it's going to be interesting to see about this kind of technology. >> this is a fantastic screening tool to prevent people from ebola from getting on planes. they look great, they work very well but it's not going to keep us 100% safe from ebola. and the administration is very correctly said we need to focus on africa and i think that's right. >> thanks for bringing the device, and hopefully he can get that fever down. good to have you. want to show you newly released video. could it be a lead in the search for mh-370? a little access part of the plane. aviation expert miles o'brien is going to preview his new documentary ahead.

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it can remove control from the cockpit so you can make the cockpit helpless. you don't even need to go into the cockpit. >> that is a look at the new nova documentary "why planes vanish" premiering tonight. it presents a surprising new theory how malaysia airlines flight 370 could have vanished flying from kuala lumpur to beijing. it questions whether the electronic and equipment hatch could have been compromised. let's talk about it all with cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien who is also the nova pbs

producer of "why planes vanish." miles, great to see you. >> good morning, alisyn. >> sounds like there's been developments since we last focused on flight 370. what have you learned? >> you can't take anything off the table yet and there's a lot of scenarios which still can work and all of them are in many cases difficult to reconcile with the facts, but one thing to add to the plate is this idea that control of the aircraft could be obtained without ever having to deal with going inside that cockpit door. that hatch is designed in an unusual way on the boeing 777 in the sense it is outside the cockpit door and commonly it is not secured. once you have access to that compartment, there's all kinds of things you can do to either cause problems for the crew, fail systems, pull circuit breakers or ultimately take over the aircraft. it's just one more thing to put on the table of possibilities.

>> that is fascinating. it's fascinating to learn that that is so easily accessible, that it's unlocked, if i understand correctly, and that it can allow somebody to remote control the plane? >> yes, it's designed for maintenance, of course, but that little personalal there once you plug in the airplane is nothing more than a flying video game, a for anyone to tap into the system you can change the software and control surfaces, you can manage all the systems and so if you have enough experience, if you have any background as an avionics technician, that sort of thing, you would have the capability of doing this so i'm not saying this happened but it's just one more thing to consider. >> so is the latest thinking on this mystery that this was not an accident and that it was a deliberate act? >> i've spent a lot of time looking at this, obviously,

alisyn and it's very difficult when you look at what happened after it fell off the radar screens as it were, when that aircraft took that turn and flew across the malaysian peninsula and took another turn which threaded the needle between indonesia and malaysian air space it's almost impossible to come one a scenario where a human hand is not involved there. there is some sort of deliberate action there. that's something we can say with a pretty good amount of certainty. beyond that, we don't know what human being was twisting those knobs or perhaps on that keypad below decks causing this to happen. >> so this week we understand the crews have resumed the search in the indian ocean. what's different about the search this time? >> well the search is much farther south and to the west. the initial search zone was defined using some clever mathematics by this communications satellite comp y

company, determined what hemisphere it was in but it's not a precise science. the satellite wasn't designed as a positioning tool. what they did was ingenious but not very accurate. they're constantly refining where the plane might have been. they have to factor in things they don't know like the speed of the craft, whoo sort of raping it had, how it was flown. they don't know a lot of things so they're taking the best estimates they can in some cases really just educated guesses to define the zone so it's moved a long way away from where the search was occurring before it was suspended, so maybe just maybe we'll see something but it's amazing to me that seven months later we haven't seen a seat cushion, an in-flight magazine or a shoe or anything from this aircraft. when air france 447 crashed into the atlantic in 2009, they fished out 3,000 pieces of floating debris, so where is the debris? >> such a good question and it is such a mystery. miles, thanks so much for previewing it for us.

reminder, nova's "why planes vanish" premieres tonight on pbs at 9:00 p.m. eastern, 8:00 p.m. central time. we'll be tuning in to that. chris, what's going on? >> i'll tell you what's going on, a bolo, be on the lookout. the fbi is asking for help tracking a member of isis who may be an american, this as the terror group closes in on taking an important city in syria. we'll hear directly from the pentagon coming up. also breaking overnight a possibly life-saving gift to that american cameraman infected from ebola. will the blood from another american survivor save him? we'll tell you. nches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.

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want to put her dog down, thinking it could be carrying the disease. the desperate plea to save the dog. on her own terms, the terminally ill 29-year-old who has created a firestorm saying she is going to end her own life her own way at the end of the month, and reigniting the debate over euthanasia. >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning, welcome back to "new day." it is wednesday, october 8th, 8:00 in the east, i'm chris cuomo. welcome to you as well, alisyn camero camerota. >> thank you, great to be here. >> we have a development in the war, a strategic town in northern syria is about to fall into the hands of isis. tens of thousands of kurds have already fled kobani for turkey. now this happening despite a series of coalition air strikes overnight. the u.s. says it will not be able to stop the extremists from

overrunning the town. meanwhile, the fbi is turning to the public for help as agents try to identify this american-sounding man appearing in an isis propaganda video. have a listen for yourself. >> they lie. and the flames of war are only beginning to intensify and we're here with the soldiers of digging their own graves in the very place where they were stationed. >> horrible message of course, you can see the body a little bit of the eyes and of course the voice and that's what the fbi is banking on. in a moment we'll talk with pentagon spokesman john kirby. first to pamela brown in washington. what is the latest? >> the fact that the fbi is turning to the public shows the urgency here, chris, this is happening after the fbi spent the past several weeks trying to figure out the identity of this isis terrorist with the north american accent, committing war crimes on camera as we saw.

this is someone who could have a western passport, could return and cause harm, could be a recruiter for members and it appears this is someone not on the fbi's radar. we heard james comey say in a recent $60 minutes" interview his big fear is what he doesn't know, not knowing about americans currently fighting with isis, those who may have fallen through the cracks. ever since the man we see in this video heard speaking fluent english in the isis propaganda video intelligence videos used voice analysis to trace his accent, facial recognition. it's unclear who this man is and where he comes from, so of course the hope here is that a member of the public will recognize his voice, perhaps even recognize his distinct features there with his eyes, his eyebrows, those features covered up by the mask, body language, mannerisms, anything

like that and send a tip into the fbi. chris? >> pamela, reaching out to the public often bears fruit. we'll see what happens on that. thank you for the reporting. let's bring in pentagon press secretary rear admiral john kirby. good to have you as always. >> thank you very much. >> let's check off the different news items that we have here. the fbi asking for help, looking for this man in the propaganda video. do you see this as a useful tact tactic? have they hit a dead end? >> we're not law enforcement experts but we think this is smart for them to do this, you never know who might have a tip, a little bit of information. this gets at the larger issue of foreign fighters that so many western countries are concerned about. >> i'm asking you because obviously these guys involved in the war that you are fighting for the united states. let's turn to kobani. is kobani a key city that is showing that air strikes not enough to stop isis? >> kobani, let me try to take

that in two parts. kobani is a border town, not necessarily a strategically significant bordertown for isil, because that border is porous already as it is. it is, however, territory they want to grab that, they want, and they want this victory, that's pretty clear. nobody's taken it lightly, as you reported yourself, chris, we've been taking five air strikes the night before last in one night alone to try to slow these guys down but as we've said all along and this gets to my second point, air power alone, military power alone is not going to be enough to stop these guys. it's got to be a whole of government and interagency and multinational approach and what frankly needs to happen is their ideology needs to be defeated and that can only be done but good governance. it takes time, effort and patience but i think we all need to set expectations here for the limits of air power alone. >> let's discuss the limits, admiral. when you say it takes time, i share that assumption that that means the political change, the

economic change, the cultural battle over this soul of islam is what is needed to take its own due process so that you can crush extremism that way but the air strikes were supposed to be effective very early on, and it does raise the question of, at what point do you think that you will have to go to the president of the united states and say we need to have the best fighters in the world on the ground there, or this isn't going to get done? >> well, first of all, the air strikes in syria were always designed and still designed, i might add, to get at this group's ability to sustain itself. these are strikes of a little bit more strategic than some of the strikes we've been taking inside iraq, more dynamic, going after vehicles and that kind of thing. not that we aren't doing that in syria and around kobani to do what we can but the campaign inside syria is designed to get at this group's ability to sustain to recruit, to train, to equip itself to finance itself.

to your second question, commander in chief has been pretty clear there's not going to be a return of u.s. ground troops in a combat role in this fight. what we do believe and what we have said is you do need competent ground forces. those grouped forces are best when they're indigenous ground forces, people that know the ground, the culture, the tribes, know the situation. that's why we're the questioning ready to get this train and equip program up and running in saudi arabia for a moderate syrian opposition. that, too, will take time. chris, i think it's important for people to understand the concept of time here. this is a long, difficult effort. we've been trying to say that as much as we can and while air strikes are dynamic and they're exciting and you can see the effects on the ground and you have video coming out of kobani, i know all of this is unfolding in real time but people need to understand we need strategic patience here. this group is not going to go away tomorrow and kobani may fall. we can't predict whether it will or won't. there will be other towns they will threaten and that they take. it's going to take time. >> one of the reasons there's

increased urgency surrounding kobani is because there is media there. you're watching that in more real time. >> absolutely. >> it speaks to a different conversation about the need to have this monitored on the ground by the media and others, and that will have to evolve with the situation as well. one of the things that will give a president a chance to keep u.s. military out of this, because if you ask anybody, that's in doubt, i know it's been said, admiral, but what's said and done is often different in washington, turkey, turkey has one of the strongest armies in the world, certainly in nato, and they got the authorization to put boots on the ground, they're lining up tanks across the border from kobani, where are their ground troops? >> well, they are across the border, as you rightly said and we are in active consultations with turkey will b what they will or won't do, what they're willing to do and capable of doing. it is true they have forces across the border and they are observing the situation in kobani as well. obviously they could be of help but this is a decision that the turks have to make, the turkish

quoft has to make, the turkish people have to be behind it and right now i think they're debating that question. >> because they certainly fit the description of what you want there, indigenous fighters who know the grouped, who has motivation to fight, who are well organized and certainly superior to the enemy, but if they don't get involved, i think we all know which way that's going to lead in terms of the only other fighters available that are capable enough. let me ask you about a different front you're fighting against ebola. this situation with the nurse in spain, an auxiliary nurse, that he's not to diminish her position but she was not someone in direct contact with the immediate treatment of the patients. it sounds a lot like what you describe as the role that troops will be in, they're not going to be directly treating ebola patients but they will be there and it speaks to how easily you can catch this even if you're not on the front line in quotes. does it give you pause for concern about what we're getting our troops into? >> this deadly disease has given us pause from the very

beginning, chris. i can tell you that. you saw general rodriguez here in our briefing room yesterday talking to reporters about all the precautions and the procedures and the protocols we'll be putting our troops through before they actually get there, while they're there every day, constant monitoring and then after they leave, and making sure that they're probably monitored and cared for, for a period of time when they come home. we're taking this very seriously. now it is true that our troops by and large will not have any contact with ebola patients and won't be involved in any treatment. they are engineers, logisticians. we are mindful the disease itself is a security threat to our folks and we'll take it seriously. >> the's nurse was dealing with patients in a way you are not seeing for the u.s. troops. it raises the specter of concern. >> absolutely. >> admiral kirby always good to have you on "new day" and as always cnn stands at the ready to cover the situation abroad, wherever the mission takes us.

>> thanks, chris. >> mick over to you. here are your headlines at this hour, syrian officials coming clean about four previously undisclosed chemical weapons facilities, a special representative, the united nations secretary-general alerted the security council, this news now raising concerns that isis could get their hands on the remaining stockpiles a year after u.n. joint mission set out to destroy them. a stark reminder of the danger posed by fighting wildfires. an air tanker fighting a wildfire in yosemite national park has crashed, the pilot was killed. the cal fire st2 tanker crashed. it was trying to drop retardant on flames when he crashed. pieces of the aircraft rained down on a nearby highway and nearly struck a team of firefighters in the area. the san francisco giants advancing to the national league championship series with a 3-2 victory over the washington nationals last night.

they're looking to win the world series for oh, just a third time since 2010. the giants will face the st. louis cardinals, who are after their third world series since 2006. the cards knocked out the dodgers with a 3-2 win earlier on tuesday. you think they're excited? maybe a little bit? check this out. >> what is that? >> thank you for asking, chris, that is a lunar eclipse in the skies of the united states overnight into the early morning hours referred to as a blood moon. >> scary. >> turns a reddish orange, nothing fearsome there. the second blood moons are in april and september of next year. if you missed it don't worry, indra is here. our viewers are sending in great images they caught. >> i get to live veiicariously through video because we're inside. this is milwaukee, wisconsin. looks like october. eerie. >> instagram filter on that? >> they say no but who knows.

here's dallas, texas, you can see the light coming up on it, this is a perfect shot, that's i think my favorite out of victor, new york, you can see the definition there on the moon. >> see the man in it. >> you can see the cheese. >> and my favorite also we have video by the white house, so yes, look at that shot, actually nice live video there. keep in mind at 7:24 the blood moon ended. it has to be a total lunar eclipse so this is what you see, a live shot. you still have an eclipse going on, it doesn't look that blood moon orange. >> two more chances next year you can see the blood moon. >> a little time to wait. >> indra, thanks for that. >> thanks to everyone else. >> thanks to you. we're going to give you the latest in the fight against ebola and infected nbc cameraman is getting what could be a magic bullet in the form of another man's blood. meanwhile, the nurse in spain who got sick says she did everything right and still got the virus. now her dog may have to die

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ebola said she followed the protocols until she got sick. authorities say her dog will have to be put down over concerns it may be spreading the disease. let's get to al goodman live in madrid, cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen and dr. red gen letter, director at columbia university. the breaking news the nbc freelance cameraman ashoka mukpo is going to get this blood transfusi transfusion. why will this work? >> it's important to try various ways of approaching the disease. in this case it's presumed that antibodies built up by brantly will help any other new patient because it will help attack that virus. we don't know if it will work, or work in some patients not others. >> that's better than just finding a family member with his blood type that has healthy blood. >> right, because we want in the blood of somebody who survived

ebola to make sure that there isn't something in that blood specifically antibodies to the virus that might help this person. >> elizabeth, let's talk about the patient thomas duncan, who we understand is struggling to survive, do we know if he got a blood transfusion? >> his family members say that he has not gotten a transfusion, that it was discussed, but never truly considered. his family says that's because the doctors said look, it's not proven to be effective but as we just heard from dr. redlenner it's important to consider everything. there is really no such thing as a proven and effective ebola treatment. the doctors at emory and nebraska have gone out of their way to try approaches like this blood transfusion. >> doctor, shouldn't they be trying everything? >> you try everything but as elizabeth said it's not clear exactly what is going to work and the other thing that's important to remember is that very good supportive treatment especially keeping patients

hydrated seems to be a critical factor here. one of the reasons that people are having so much trouble dealing with this in africa is that even the basic care of a very sick patient like hydration and other supportive care is just not available readily. >> we also know ashoka mukpo will receive the experimental drawing drug. >> it's one of the things we want to try, it's an effective ant antibody drug. it's in the array of possibilities that people with epaola should have a chance to be tried on. >> elizabeth has that been tried on there duncan? >> he's been getting it since saturday although his family wonders why it took nearly a nearly a week to get

brincidofov brincidofovir. they've been in contact with the cdc and emory, but the reality is it took them almost a week to get him brincidofovir. >> al, as we were talking about the nurse gave a very brief one-minute interview to this print reporter who managed to get her to answer the phone in which he asked her do you think you followed proper protocol while treating ebola-stricken patients, she says "i did." he says how were you able to contract ebola? she says i can't tell you, i have no clue. what is the latest at the hospital? >> the latest at the hospital is that the key people in this ebola crisis in spain are in here not only the nurse's assistant who is the only confirmed case but her husband who is under close watch along with some others as potential cases and right behind me right now there is a media scrum, some

hospital officials have just come out for the first time all day to brief and we'll get information on what they had to say but as you can see, how starved everyone is for information. about 30 minutes from where i'm standing in a southern suburb of madrid is where their family pet is, this dog that officials in madrid are considering putting to sleep on fear it might spread the ebola virus, and the couple here in the hospital have used contact with the media and social media to try to drum up a campaign to save the life of the dog saying the dog shouldn't have to pay, out in front of their home in that southern suburb there's been a demonstration in favor of keeping the dog alive, so a lot of angles here, alisyn. >> doctor, what do you think about the dog? >> there's little evidence that a dog actually carries ebola. other animals in the wild so-called bushmeat animals can and do carry it. dogs virtually no evidence in the literature to support that. i'm not clear myself why they

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the five things you need to know for your new day. number one the fbi is tushing to the public for identifying an english speaking jihadist in an isis video, this man with a north american accent presides over executions. a terror plot aimed at britain may have been foiled in its early stages. police in london arresting four men tuesday, specifics of the alleged plotter is scarce however the city's police commissioner calls it serious and a quite serious case. an nbc cameraman who got ebola is getting a blood transfusion from dr. kent brantly. americans eric veitzeig and william warrer in and stefan hell scored the nobel prize in chemistry. the winners were identified for their work in optical

microscopy. the san francisco judge advanced and will face the cards who ousted the l.a. dodgers. we always update the five things to know. visit cnn.com, let me try it again, have i not been doing this for a year and a half, newdaywant f newdaycnn.com for the latest. >> never hurts to try again. meanwhile an indiana police department is at the center of a federal lawsuit after a family says that officers resorted to excessive force during a routine traffic stop. this is the latest incident of alleged excessive force caught on tape. police say they were doing what they had to do because the folks in the car would not cooperate. cnn's susan candiotti takes a closer look. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: an indiana couple says this 13-minute terrifying encounter with hammond police was completely uncalled for. it began when officers pulled over lisa mahone and her front

seat passenger for not wearing their seat belts. >> my mother is about to die. the man is outside of the car, hitting on the passenger window. all my windows is up. i feel like my life is in danger. >> reporter: the video recorded by her 14-year-old son in the back seat of the car, his 7-year-old sister next to him. during the stop, officers ask passenger jamal jones to get out of the car. jones says he refused because he feared for his safety. >> do you want your window broken? >> no. >> i suggest you unlock the car because that's where we're at. >> you all going to pull out guns and everything. i'm scared. you just pulled a gun out. >> i don't know you. >> the situation suddenly escalates. >> are you going to open the door? >> why do you say somebody is not going to hurt you, people are getting shot by the police -- >> dahn! >> reporter: after breaking the

window police tase jamal dragging him out of the vehicle. >> that's when i got shot in my back with a taser, just tasered me and i started going, felt like my body was going to shut down. >> the couple filed a lawsuit against the city of hammond saying the manner which they were pulled over was "highly aggressive" and placed them in "in fear for their safety." the reason they say they did not exit the vehicle. according to the complaint, jamal was struck in the right shoulder while lisa and her two children in the back seat were hit with shards of glass. officers say they feared for their own safety after seeing jamal reaching into the back seat. >> i'm no longer you right now, i got my kids in the car. you're drawing your weapon. >> the hammond police department saying in a statement "hammond police officers were at all times acting in the interest of officer safety and in accordance with indiana law." that indiana law gives them the

right to ask even a passenger to leave a vehicle. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. >> love to hear what you have to say about this case. you can find me on twitter@alis twitter@alisyncamerota. now let's turn to this week's human factor, a split second decision forever changed the life of one 26-year-old who refused to quit despite the odds. dr. sanjay gupta has her story. >> i was driving down on interstate 5, a drive that i had done hundreds of times. >> reporter: but this drive turned terribly wrong. the last memory she has of that day unbuckling her seat belt and reaching down to grab a can of soda roll around the floorword. >> i didn't think anything of it. i've done it before, you reach over, grab your purse, whatever on the passenger side. >> reporter: but her car veered off the highway, ejecting her

from the back windshield. >> and that was it. i snapped my back in half, compressed my spinal cord. >> reporter: instantly par liesed from her mid chest down. days after the accident, she was asked to participate in the world's first human embryonic stem cell trial for spinal cord injuries. doctors need volunteers like her to act as guinea pigs. >> i would like future injuries to have an option. it's hopeless in the beginning and you think your life is over. >> reporter: two years since the accident, her life is far from over. she's back to school, has become a young advocate for stem cell research and this summer, she even learned how to surf. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> our thanks to sanjay for telling us another very important story. a 29-year-old newlywed facing terminal cancer, horrible

situation to see someone so young in. she wants to die on her own terms. why can't she? it's a heartbreaking story that is shaking the law. that's coming up. chris, look who i found in our green room doing light reading? it's mike rowe, knownor doing dirty jobs but his new gig is a little less messy and a little more weird. >> have you read this? it's excellent. >> hoo high school. >> it's a page turner, still holds up. >> we'll talk to you about "hamlet" and your new gig. coming up. .

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this is a story you're really going to want to think about as well as learn about. 29-year-old brittany maynard has a set death in front of her and she wants to control it herself. now here's her story, five months ago brittany was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer and given the promise of months to live, followed by the process of a horrible death. well now in an online video brittany says it's not going down that way. >> i will die upstairs in my bedroom that i share with my husband, with my mother and my

husband by my side. i can't even tell you the amount of relief that it provides me to know that i don't have to die the way that it's been described to me that my brain tumor would take me on its own. >> this is one of those stories that really combines what is almost impossible to accept with figuring out what is possible in terms of what you can do about it. brittany and her husband have moved to oregon a state where death with dignity laws are in place, allowing brittany to end her life when she wants with specially prescribed medication. this is sparking a debate across the nation. let's bring it in with someone who understands the debate, arthur kaplan head of the division of medical ethics at nyu langone medical center. this is the combination of can you and should you. let's start with the can you. what is the law here? what does it provide? >> so 14 years ago, oregon became the first state to permit assistance in dying. it says if you're terminally

ill, certified by two doctors, if you make a request and you're not psychologically or psychiatrically depressed you have to make the request three times over a period of time, they will give you a lethal dose of barbiturates basically, and you must take the pills. the doctor doesn't administer them. you have to reach out and say i'm going to take these now. it's been in place as i said for more than a decade. washington state has followed. vermont just created the same policy. two states, new mexico and montana have court opinions that look like they're going to allow this. >> if she were in one of these other 47 states that does not allow it yet, what would happen? what would the punishment be? >> if she had a large dose of barbiturates and killed herself she'd probably void her insurance policy and have fiscal penalties. if the husband stepped over and said i'll give you these with a glass of water he could be prosecuted in many states for assisting a suicide. >> so here is the thing now. we talk about ethics, and

compassionate care. >> we need to talk about it. >> we want to talk about that because so many people are struggling with this. you have concerns about it. talk to me about your concerns. >> i think the concerns about legalization here, which i will come out and say i do favor, but there are concerns. one is are you going to go down a slippery slope. this is restricted to terminally ill people like her, with a terrible brain cancer. >> what means terminally ill? >> is it an allergist and dermatologist so it hasn't been tight that way. people are going to press and say you know what? what if i have alzheimer's, what if i have some sort of als, i'm not terminally ill immediately but i don't want to live this way. in europe we've seen some slide toward allowing people to die who just say i'm horribly depressed. belgium, netherlands have done that. slippery slope issues are there, we'll worry about those. the other is with a woman, my heart goes out to her but when awe announc i'm going to kill myself on day x and bring the family in and we'll say good-bye

there's a little bit of pressure there. you have to frmperform what you said you were going to do. you don't want to coerce yourself. assisted suicide for people who say i feel horrible, i can't go on, it's too much for me. now we'll do. not i'm going to do it on date x. >> there's help for people who have depression. is there any help for her? >> there sayily lit before help. we've seep the rise of hospice, pain control, emotional support, spiritual support, those are keys. what i would say is this. in the u.s. if we're going to see legalization of assisted suicide, of assistance in dying, we always have to have hospice care first, it should always be a last option. >> we know stories in our own lives and anecdotally something that was supposedly a death sentence and a miracle. >> i don't want to say it happens a lot. the difference is she's 29, she's got this brain tumor, there's some chance. when you get to somebody who is 89 and they have four strokes and three heart attacks and a

cancer, there you're a little more certain about where you're hea head headed. >> they downgraded her outlook, gave her years to live and then mere months. >> someone got a peek at her tumor using dna analysis saying this is a bad one. nonetheless you don't want people pulling the rip cord to go unless they feel like there's no other option. by the way interesting fact about oregon, about 30% of the people who ask for the pills never take them because they like the ability to say i'm in control, but then they want to go on. >> interesting. it's empowering somehow. >> um-hum. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. we are going to shift gears, have you ever wanted to know what it may be like to squeeze into a wet suit and dangle 30 feet from a theater ceiling in las vegas? yes you have, i hope so, because mike rowe has. he's done it. he's here to tell us all about it and preview his new show on cnn. >> yes, i will do that. are the s in the world,

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that's right. here's chris. anybody care? chris just told me my wet suit is on backwards and i might care

when i go down to depth. >> eneverything squeezes. you may want to go change that. >> zip me? >> no shame in his game. that was our colleague mike rowe suiting up back stage at the aquatic show in las vegas. mike newest member of the family at cnn "somebody's gotta do it" looking the unique, interesting odd work with passion. the program premieres tonight at 9:00 p.m. mike is here with a preview, vegas in a wet suit, you do it in style. >> what happens there at this time does not stay there, i assure you. >> you did not know the wet suit was on backwards. >> honestly, i had no recollection of large chunks of that day but that's not unusual. we've been living on the road the last four months shooting pretty much constantly. the adventure started in vegas.

we went there because a year ago i saw that show called "la rev." >> mind boggling. >> i think it means the dream. all i know is sitting in the audience watching people who appear to have no bones in their body drop from great heights into a giant pool of flaming water not to reappear left me with questions along the lines of how do they do that and who is in charge. so on "somebody's gotta do it" we went back to find what i believe is the greatest stage hand in the history of the world, dale hurt who oversees the whole thing. it's amazing. >> you wound up attaching to some great characters at the end of the day. every story is about that. how much of it comes as a surprise, how many people do you go in there looking for? >> we don't do a second take on "somebody's gotta do it." we never stop shooting like my previous gig. i want them to see production, no scripts, no actors. if you're going to have a script, make it great, right?

make it "true detective" or "game of thrones" but if you're not going to have a script tell the truth, warts and all, make it a hot mess and make sure everybody's in on the joke. >> so that's the thing that people will probably feel is familiar with the other show you did, but that is sort of where it ends aside from the fact it's your handsome mug leading us through it. >> shucks, thanks. it's a romp. you've got a small crew going across the country, essentially relying on my facebook page for ideas of which there are many thousands. look, the idea is sooner or later you run out of dirt and you run out of jobs. it's not a secret but you don't run out of people. >> not ever. >> whether it's a stagehand or whether it's a proprietor of a unique museum or whether it's an entrepreneur, an inventor, a bloody do-gooder, the country is full of people who i think deserve 15 or 20 minutes on the tube and in this format the country gets to tell me who i should introduce to you, which i love. >> you say a unique museum. do you mean a hair museum? >> why that's exactly right.

i was referring to that. i was in an after vegas on unrelated business i was in kansas city doing a thing, the crew was with me. i hopped on facebook, i said kansas, who do you know? i got 3,000 replies but near the top people were saying you have to meet lee iyla, runs the only hair museum in the world. she's a sweet lady. these are words i've never seen grouped up in a sentence before so i said let's do that, so we did and you're going to learn everything there is to know about hair, why people collect it, and the role it played in believe it or not genealogy. >> you might have set out with a plan but that hair museum took you to very, very different directions. >> hairy places. >> you can't go into a place, well you can't shoot a show like this if you're too deeply in love with your plan, because in every single case it goes off

the rails. in a fun way. but look, i honestly believe that's what's for sale today, as a viewer, i'd rather see an authentic, unscripted show than a carefully produced thing. >> it was supposed to be reality tv but that's a whole other topic. >> that word doesn't mean anything. >> it does not and it's refreshing to meet these. it's interesting, you look at ve vegas, kansas city, missouri, three different places that have distinct personalities yet within them there's that thread of character. >> and the value of work. that's something that you bring, you bring on a lot of different levels and i love it, and you find people who do a job, they have passion for the job, and it may not be the most glamorous thing that you put up there on a pedestal what you want to do but they love it. >> i keep a journal and over the last ten years i've been to every state, we shot 330 little adventures, right, but along the way, i met hundreds of people

who i would have loved to have put on the show but it simply wasn't dirty enough. the truth is, you know, it's really, scrape all the dirt away and it's about work ethic, it's about passion. it's not about just vocation. it's about advocation. it's waking up a little afflicted because the world's not quite the way you want it, and if. that means i have to run a hair museum at a strip mall that's what i do. if i have to oversee the most dangerous show in the history of vegas, i'll do that. >> does anything surprise you at this point or what has surprised you in putting together your show? >> i'm surprised by honestly i'm surprised by what happened on facebook. i'm surprised when -- i'm late to the social media party. i've just been out there a year, but when i ask people for ideas, yesterday right in this building, we did a little q&a on cnn's facebook page. i said i have an hour, i'd like to answer some questions. apparently we snapped a bunch of records. we had 15,000 questions

immediately. >> that was just from chris cuomo alone. >> and chris, excellent questions by the way. no, no, look, people are genuinely anxious to have a hand in programming the show they want to watch. >> sure. >> so without making it too high falut inn, we're only talking about democratization of television in the 21st century. >> and the world. >> do you drawn a line, though, if there is a suggestion is there something you're like, like you have fears. you looked a little tredidacious jumping 30 feet into the water in las vegas. >> it was 500 feet. >> i think it was 20 feet, you were saying show me 20. >> yeah, i did. >> that's what i thought. >> thank you for pointing that out. it's important. the tube is full of what i'll call self-subscribed stunt junkies. i'm not one. i'm a regular guy. i have a healthy fear of that, which i think would frighten most sane people. i don't deliberately insert myself into situations because,

wow, that would be, you know, fascinating. i do it because i'm shoulder to shoulder with people who do it every day, and my job is not to host the show. i'm not an expert in anything. i'm kind of an avatar for the viewer and it's a really great way to manage expectations. i don't need to succeed, chris. i need to try, which i can pretty much do all day. >> too late, you've succeeded on many levels and i think many more to come. >> nice of you to say. >> mike's new show "somebody's gotta do it" airs tonight, it will air every wednesday at 9:00 p.m. it is entertaining. you make my smile. >> no bad news and somebody's gotta do it. >> how often can you say that? >> thanks. >> a nice set of forearms and you know where else you can get good news. >> that's so weird. >> so weird. >> that's why i asked 15,000 questions. we have a real traffic jam but see what one

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