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blitzer or tweet the show at cnn sit room and join us tomorrow at the situation room or dvr so you won't miss an episode. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" begins now. >> "outfront" tonight, the second possible ebola case in dallas at the same day the man at the center of the ebola scare dies. and new screening at five airports around the united states. will it be enough to keep ebola out of the u.s. considering it doesn't take effect for maybe another week or so. and the president at the pentagon today says isis makes gains, is the mission changing on the fly. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. we begin "outfront" with
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breaking news. a second possible ebola diagnosis tonight. this is after the first patient has passed away from the virus. the two cases may be connected. sergeant michael monig was sent into the apartment where thomas eric duncan was staying and he had some contact with duncan's family members. today he reported possible reporting of the virus. >> while we are being told the risk is minimal, over an abundance of caution we are taking actions to make sure the public health, safety and welfare is protected. >> the case has been transferred to the same dallas hospital where mr. duncan died this morning. duncan's doctors said he fought courageously, and passed away eight days after his diagnosis and had been showing symptoms and sought care well before that. elizabeth cohen is out front
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tonight, out front of the hospital. and what more can you tell us about the sergeant right now? >> reporter: well he is a deputy sheriff and he was inside the apartment where duncan was staying. however it appears he did not have contact with duncan and he was inside that apartment, it would have been several days since duncan had last been there. but let's listen to what he told reporters last week. >> we did not receive any emergency equipment. touched doors, touched lights to turn on lights. that puts the question marks in your mind. when you go home and the next day you start hearing that equipment is being quarantined or asked to be bagged up. >> reporter: now, i want to be clear that according to the cdc, ebola can't live on surfaces for more than just a few hours and monig was in the apartment several days after duncan had left. erin. >> so elizabeth, i know when it
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comes to duncan himself, obviously he died this morning. last night, jesse jackson had been in the hospital, visiting with the doctors and came on the show and was going through the signs on the improvement on the kidney and fever side of things. and then things seemed to quickly take a turn for the worse? >> reporter: right. and that is not unusual with this disease. things can get better and worse very quickly. and i know the family and reverend jackson have questions about what happened with his care. why he had to wait for a week to get an experimental medication when other patients in the u.s. got it pretty much immediately. they want to know why he didn't get blood donated by an ebola survivor so maybe the antibodies could help boost his system. his girlfriend had this to say in a statement. i trust a thorough examination will take place regarding all aspects of his care. and erin, it was interesting. this was a long statement and
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she thanked many people. the judge who has overseen the effort, thanked community leaders, her pastor, she did not thank the doctors and nurses here. >> a very crucial thing. she want there to be a thorough examination of what happened in the hospital. thank you so much. and i want to bring if a colleague of michael monig. president of the dallas fraternal order of police. you've just heard that this officer was concerned and showing symptoms of ebola after entering the apartment. what is your reaction to that? >> well it is horrible. the last thing you want to hear is anybody you work with might have contracted a virus like this while doing his job. >> he also said that he didn't have the proper equipment, they were sent into that apartment, the family was quarantined there and there were sheets and towels that duncan had used and not yet disposed of around the apartment and they didn't have any
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protective gear at all when they went in. do you know if your colleagues were told it was okay, go in the apartment at that time or did they know there was risk? >> well, from what i understand, sergeant monig asked zack thompson if it was okay to enter the apartment and he was told it would be. but that is correct, we are not provided with hazmat suits or anything. >> and that is what they were told? >> that is what they were told, yes. >> and do you know anything about them? at this point we have no idea if he has something else wrong with him and doesn't have ebola, awaiting the results of that. but do you know of anybody else who went in that day that has felt sick? >> i've got a phone call about ten minutes ago that two other guys have gone home from the apartment. one guy was in the apartment and one drove the sergeant's vehicle. >> those two were around but you haven't heard they are feeling ill? >> i heard that they are feeling
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ill. >> you heard they are feeling ill. >> correct. >> and do you know, are they going in also to seek care and try to get tested? >> that is what i believe. >> okay. so your understanding is there were three people in the department, from your sheriff's department going in for tests. >> there was two in the apartment, and one had driven the sergeant's car before they cleaned it. >> and i understand. so you are saying three total? >> yes. >> all right. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. obviously that is a new development here that we now know from what he is telling us, the dallas sheriffs fraternal order of police that there were three people in that apartment or in the car of sergeant michael monig, and now going in to get tested because they are not feeling well. i want to bring in doctor ian, director of columbia school of
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health and doctor alexander tellkin with international humanitarian affairs. great to have you both with us. and dr. lipkin, you said it is not just one person being tested, it is three. people are afraid who were in that apartment. the chances seem to be low they could have been infected, but is it possible? >> anything is possible in biology. it is true it is unlikely. i think an abundance of caution is appropriate. the signs and symptoms of ebola very early are not specific. it is like any other sort of infection. and people might have psychological issues which present as i'm just not feeling well. so we really need the tests. we need the tests. >> and those tests, doctor, it is not an immediate thing. you just go in and get a test. that is not the way it works. >> no. unless detected in the very early stages, there may be looking for antibodies that may
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not have made antibodies against it. so actually clear them will require a period of observation. >> what about the issue of whether they should have been in there. you heard them say, look, they went into the apartment, the family was in there being quarantined and at this point they have -- to our knowledge, they have not shown any symptoms at all but there were sheets, towels that he had been using that were in that apartment and they went in without any protective gear whatsoever. should that have happened? >> i think that was ill-advised. i think the people going in should be trained and have the appropriate equipment. and the point about making the diagnosis which my colleague just talked about is critical. so in fact, what we now do, if somebody is ill, we take one pc r test and wait three days and take another and only after the second pc r test is negative do
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we exclude ebola. >> this will take time for them to know. and now we have possibly three people from the sheriff's department who are now seeking care for possibly -- they think they could be sick. it has been 11 days since duncan had contact with the family members in the apartment, not direct contact with these individuals and so far haven't heard of symptoms. the incubation period is 21 days. when can you breathe a sigh of relief and say they didn't get it. >> they say 21 days. it is important to say this is a virus that we have not studied as much as other viruses. we haven't had a huge number of cases in places where it is easy to study. so 21 days is the rule of thumb we are working on. i think we can relax a bit more after 21 days and that is the period when you would say -- >> so every day you go by, you don't feel better in the home stretch until 21. >> i'm not sure i agree with that. in my view, most people become ill within seven to ten days of
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exposure. so if you make it through the seven to ten day period, the high probability say the risks go down dram satticly. 21 days is way on the outside. and it gets us confidence when you get out to 21 days you are probably in the clear. but more like seven to den days. >> and now it is 11 days. and let me ask you, we were talking the other day, and you said if this is uncontained, up to 1.2 million people could die from ebola. right now 37 people have died from ebola. >> it is a tragedy. and we all agree. and the numbers projected and i think tom frieden has raised the numbers, maybe 1.4 million now. it is a matter of conjecture. what is important, we get there and find ways to contain it and everybody worldwide is trying to send people with expertise,
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resources, supplies, but there is still much more we can do. and many of us are trying to do this. and i think my colleague's agency is very, very involved in this and many others. >> it is a shocking number for people to think about, to go to that number of people. this is not something that will go away. >> staggering. >> thanks so much to both of you. appreciate your time tonight. and up next, did the hospital do everything they could to save thomas eric duncan. his treatment was different than what the americans got. and are fever checks and a questionnaire enough? and airstrikes can't stop isis from taking turkey. is there a plan to save a massive 4,000 people.
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breaking news tonight, dallas county sheriffs deputy michael monnig has been transported to a hospital with signs of ebola. he entered the apartment where thomas eric duncan was staying and we heard from the dallas fraternal order of police that two additional officers are being sick and they are also going in for testing. thomas eric duncan is now the first person to die from ebola on american soil.
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raising questions about the treatment he got. david mattingly is out front? >> reporter: thomas eric duncan's death leaves behind a question of treatment and prevention of ebola that is more than 5,000 miles long. liberian health officials didn't expect the sick woman he helped was infected with ebola until after duncan was already in the united states. five days after his arrival, an ailing duncan goes to the hospital in dallas and tells them of his recent travel from africa, but they just give him anti-biotics and send him home. >> regretfully that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team. and as a result, the full import of that information wasn't factored into the clinical decision-making. >> reporter: duncan spends three days potentially exposing others before he's back, even sicker this time, in the hospital. it takes two days to confirm, he's infected with ebola.
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duncan's case is a sharp contrast to doctor kent brantly and missionary nancy wrightful, the first ebola patients. both were diagnosed in africa and giving zmapp and flown to the united states under quaranti quarantine. that seemed to work. >> what a great nursing staff and great doctors. >> he treated me with expertise, yet with such tenderness and compassion. >> reporter: duncan was in the hospital for nine days when his girlfriend speaks from quarantine, begging he get the same experimental drug. >> i am asking the he be given the same that came, the people from ebola that came. he is too young to die. >> reporter: but zmapp is depleted. he was given a different drug
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and his status doesn't improve. and blood is also believed to provide antibodies to anybody fighting the disease. dr. kent brantly gave blood to an nbc cameraman and gave blood to an infected doctor who have since recovered. they both agreed to give blood to duncan but it only works if their blood types match. now it no longer matters. >> today we are deeply saddened by the death of the patient in dallas. >> reporter: duncan's case ends with the worst possible outcome. brantley was out of the hospital in 19 days, the nurse out in 14. but after being admitted, thomas eric duncan, died in 11. cnn, atlanta. and joining me is alexander van tellkin and you just heard david reporting, that the two
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patients offered to donate blood, but the question is would a the blood have helped. >> they have antibodies that fought the disease and you can take them out and give them to someone else. so that is the logic behind the transfusion. and by the time he had the infusion, we don't know. we don't have data that say this works. we have a lodgic that says it might work and it feels like it should work. >> and that could have happened and there could have been a blood type situation. >> we don't know. >> and what about the z map? there should have been enough for him? >> i don't think they are holding any in reserve for him or anybody else?
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it takes a long time to grow this. >> it grows in a tobacco plant. it takes a long time to grow anything. it is not like we have a machine that can print these things automatically. so they are scaling up a drug that was being researched at a slow pace until recently. >> so a, you buy they don't have it and it takes a long time and, b, we don't know if it works. it has helped in the couple of people that had it but we don't know if it is a cure. >> and if you look at the share price, they would be desperate. i don't think they have some saving for some real american or whatever other story we could tell. >> so then my other question people might have is look, other americans who came back with the disease, who did get slightly different treatment and survived, they went to hospitals that were chose n and hospitals that were ready.
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dallas presbyterian was not. >> i think there is no question, if you go to the hospital, they know what they are doing. they have looked out for other people with hemorrhagic fevers. people aren't drilled and trained, so it is not just a matter of having the copies of the cdc rules, but it is very nerve-wracking and easy to make a mistake. if i was running a hospital right now, i would be up thinking how do i make this stuff easier to do. >> doctor, thank you very much. and officials are taking new steps to prevent an ebola outbreak in the united states. five major u.s. airports will begin screening for passengers arriving from west africa. they will take everybody's temperature. but 21 day incubation period. they could take your temperature and it won't show up. we are live at the dallas
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airport. >> reporter: in days, ramped up screening will begin at the jfk airport and expanding to atlanta, newark, chicago and here at washington dulles. >> these five airports represent about 94 to nearly 95% of all of the 150 travelers per day who arrive from these three countries. >> reporter: anyone traveling to the united states from ebola hot spites, guinea, liberia or sierra leone will have their temperature checked. no touching, just held to the for head. and a cdc questionnaire must be filled out. >> and people may not have a fever when they pass through the airport and when a case comes through, people are asking, we had this temperature screening and why did this happen? and it is plooe diktable -- predictable way this will happen.
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>> reporter: the goal of the new us checks is to identify passengers airport officials missed or developed systems while traveling. health officials say thomas eric duncan did not have symptoms when he arrived in the u.s. so a temperature check would not have raised red flags. >> this is an additional layer of screening that can be targeted to that small population, in a way that will enhance security and minimize disruption to the broader traveling public. >> and ren arks it is amazing that you went out and were able to buy a laser thermometer at a drugstore and how come agents won't use those thermometers until this weekend and some of the busiest airports in the country until longer than that. >> reporter: and i asked that same question and i was told they have to get the personnel in place. we do know that there will be ramped-up man power at these five airports and they have to
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get the people in place and briefed on the procedures and they have to be trained by scdc. they say cdc has to walk them through it, what are you looking for, how do you use one of these things. they are using something similar to this. make sure they know exactly what they are doing. and remember the customs offers are just that, they are not doctors. so cdc will be leading that every step of the way and they need the extra time to make sure everyone knows what they are doing. >> and of course, renee, this just takes one person for something horrible to happen. the five airports according to my understanding getting this and starting to do this, again days from now, represent 94% to 95% of the travelers who could come from an ebola country. that leaves 5% to 6% who are not getting tested at all? >> reporter: right. so the situation is a majority, according to the white house and the cdc, the majority of people coming from these three countries impacted by ebola are
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going to come through those five major airports. sure, you may have one or ten coming in through another international airport someplace else but the number is not as significant as the number coming through those five airports that is why they are pushing the efforts there. that being said, it doesn't mean there will not be checked at the other international airports. we'll still have officers supposed to be looking for visual signs of sickness and we know that at 20 international airports, cdc representatives are on hand and we have quarantine rooms there as well. so if someone is detected at one of the other airports, not in the five that we spoke about today, the procedures are in place to pull that person out and give them a closer look. erin. >> thank you very much, renee marsh. and out front next, as isis grips the town of cob ano. airstrikes will not save the town.
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new american airstrikes against isis. nine in syria and three in iraq as the president met with his top military advisors at the pentagon. >> our strikes continue alongside our partners. it remains a difficult mission as i indicated from the start. this is not something that will be solved overnight. >> over 125 strikes in syria and 274 in iraq. the cost of 61 day campaign, $7 million to $10 million a day. and still isis is gaining ground. jim sciutto is "outfront" at the pentagon. >> reporter: a u.s. b-1 bomber in surprise over cob ano. a rescue that those battling isis have been desperately
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hoping for. military commanders say coalition airstrikes, six in the last 24 hours, has helped push isis back. today pentagon spokesperson admiral john kirby said the u.s.-led air campaign will not save kobani, or any other number of syrian towns an isis assault. >> hearing the public in effect, for the fact that not just kobani but other syrian towns may fall until you have the competent forces on the ground. >> i think we should all be steeling ourselves for that eventuality. >> and it will likely take months more. >> there is a lot of work still left to do, which is why we were honest about the length of time, three to five months until we can get through that process. that is before you even start doing the training. >> reporter: until then, the goal for u.s. and coolation airstrikes is not taking back
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territory, but destroying isis command and control. its helpy weapons and oil depots. targets that secretary of state john kerry said in effect take precedence over protecting a besieged population. >> we are trying to deprive isil of the over all ability to wage this, not just in kobani, but throughout syria and into iraq. >> reporter: in iraq, where the u.s. does have partners on the ground and the iraqi and kurd forces, they say territory does matter and they claim victories in retaking the mosul damn and prote protecting erbil and other towns. but still it looks much the same today, 61 days into the air campaign as it did before the bombing started. of the nine strikes in syria, we've just heard about eight of those were around kobani. u.s. commanders say they are watching closely and the kurdish fighters are holding ground
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there. but as the president visited the pentagon today, jimmy carter took aim at the president a's decision, saying that he took too long. and that has come from his own administration, including leon panetta. >> and now a former president. thank you very much, jim sciutto. and joining me now is buck mckeon. you just heard when jimmy carter said, that president obama waited too long to go after isis. bill clinton two weeks ago said he supports the president and mcchrystal said this is the time to support the commander-in-chief and that is what is necessary for the might of the united states right now. who do you agree with? >> well, they are both right. the problem is it's not what he should have done. we're past that. now we need to talk about what he should be doing now.
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two months into this air attack it is obviously not working. kobani is about to fall. that is on the border of turkey. turkey is a member of nato. this could draw into a much, much bigger war. the longer we wait, the harder it will get. our military commanders, chairman of the joint chiefs, dempsey, and chairman of the army, and the area commander, they have all laid out scenarios where we need more troops. if we don't put groups on the ground, we can't form the coalition and retake ground that needs to be taken and held. >> and when you say don't wait any long earp and you are talking about combat boots on the ground, are you saying there should be american combat boots in mass and that is what it should be? >> no, i'm not saying that we feed to have tens of thousands of troops. what i am saying is troops are
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necessary to call in the targets on the appropriate areas. >> how many -- i'm sorry to interrupt you, how many? because they have a couple of thousand in there. now at the brigade level of the iraqi army trying to help them. i mean, how many is enough? >> if i were the commander-in-chief, i would suggest that he listen to his military leaders. they would give him the numbers that he should follow. i know that they've asked for more than they've been given. it is time that he follow their advice. i know he met with them today and then went to new york and is holding three fundraisers. a couple of weeks ago i gave a speech and i said, it was -- it's good that he does indicate to the american people that this is really important, but his actions aren't showing that he really feels it is that important. i think what he needs to do is follow their advice and be true to the american people, be honest to them and tell them, this is going to take a big effort. it is worth the fight. but if we don't get engaged --
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>> so let me ask you, because obviously publicly the generals so far have said they have not yet asked for more troops and said they would be honest if they wanted them but haven't asked yet for them. so you are saying you know they have asked for more than they've gotten? >> well let me just say, they are in a tough position. he is the commander-in-chief. they are not going to disclose what they privately tell him. i just think that we could be pretty confident that they have told him they need more than they've been given. >> okay. all right. that point then made loud and clear. but in terms of what the president should do, in terms of the boots on the ground, even so, what you are saying is not -- not a mass amount of troops. more troops but not tons, and that somebody, the president has said this, sounds like i know you have also agreed on this one point, that other countries need to be putting in the lyon's
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share of troops but when it comes to other countries it is a painful sound of silence. so if it comes to troops or isis wins, what is the choice? >> if it were me, and that was the only choice, i would put in the troops. that is what we have a military for. the week after the president gave the speech and told how serious this threat was, he went to atlanta and committed billions of and troops to go fight ebola. they are not trained to do that. they are trained to meet and conquer an enemy. that is what they are trained to do. we keep cutting their resources. we cut a trillion out of our national defense and ask them to do more and more. it doesn't make sense. the military has a purpose and they have a function, and it is to protect us against these threats. we should use them when we need to. >> sheriff mckeon, thank you. it is always good to talk to
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breaking news sh the fbi is looking for a masked man in an isis video, carrying out a mass shooting of shoulder.
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deborah is out front. >> reporter: in the isis propaganda video titled games of war, a man has a black face mask covering all but eyes and his brows chblt he makes no secret of his location and intent to kill syrian soldiers. >> we are here in the 17th division military base just outside of the city of [ inaudible ] and here with the soldiers of bashad and they are now digging their graves in the same place they were stationed. >> the man speaks very perfect north american english. >> and behind them you can see the officer's residence filled with bullet holes from the islamic states. >> police are working to find out who he is and where he comes from. >> the question is are there people here in north america that might act on this person's behalf or as a conspiracy with
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him. >> fbi investigators across the country are reaching out to religious and civic leaders in the muslim community. >> do they know people who have traveled recently to turkey, greece or syria and have not come back and been in communication with family or friends. >> reporter: the fbi knows about a dozen americans fighting in syria, but it is what the feds don't know that troubles them. so forensic analysts are looking at mannerisms, speech patterns and voice quality. >> is he arabic. is english his first or second language? is arabic his first language? >> it is difficult to tell, just listening straight through. that are people in intelligence agencies right now in teams who are dissecting each and every word. >> evidence specialist paul gwynnsberg.
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>> it is a deep voice. do you think that is his natural voice or do you think it has been altered. >> well there is another possibility. there are techniques to change the timber or the tone of a voice. and that can be done to try to thwart voice identification. >> a pretty amazing step that they reached out to the general public for tips and they have gotten hundreds of them. a vast majority are false leads, but is this the only person they are looking for that could be american? >> it is not. they are looking at everybody in the video. there is one man standing behind the main english speaker in the yellow shirt. he stands out. he is wearing a white face mask and you can see some of his hair. he looks totally uncomfortable and it looks like he is in the back going look at me. and they are looking at everything. and they want to know who this american speaker or this north
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america speaker is because they don't know who he knows here in the united states and that is what is so critical. they want to make sure he doesn't get back in and make sure if he knows anybody, that they are able to go and make sure there is no plot or conspiracy, no possible hint of any attack that could occur here in the united states. >> so it is really crucial? >> thank you very much. hundreds of tips so far have come in in their mass public appeal. "outfront" next, how often do you get the advice follow your passion? all of the time. isn't a dr. seuss thing that everybody gets for graduation. why does mike rowe say that is not the way to go. and ghostbusters 3 is on the way. no bill murray, no dan akroid, who are they going to call?
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first person diagnosed in the u.s. with the disease has died. we'll have live reports from dallas and i'll speak with pastor george mason who broke the news to his partner about his death and get reaction from his home country in also tonight, we're digging deeper into the police officers accused of using excessive force in indiana. it was caught on tape. >> it isn't the first time some of the officers have faced such charges. it's all the top of the hour with a lot more. we'll see you in just a few moments. you've seen this guy doing a lot of odd jobs, crawling through mines and castrating sheeps. mike rowe joins the cnn family as the host of the series "somebody's got to do it." i talked to him about the show
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and his controversial advice on how to get success. >> you're the type of guy that gets a lot of bruhaha. >> is that a word? >> it is to me. >> a fan on facebook said following your passion and you said following your passion is not the way to go. what with you saying? >> i'm saying there are a will the of lessons from dirty jobs. one of the big ones was i met a lot of people who were happy in their work but didn't follow their passion to get there. in other words, they found themselves in careers that were by no means the embodiment of their wish fulfillment. they looked around and saw where everybody else was going and they went the opposite direction. one guy in particular, who i was referring to in that post wound up in a cleaning septic tanks. it wasn't what he loved to do. he wasn't passionate about it but he was great at it. he excelled at it.
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i bought extra trucks and hired extra people and learned to love it. if passion is important than we're told we ought to take it with us and apply it to whatever we're doing. the success stories that i prefer to highlight are ones that ultimately unfold because the people themselves are passionate irrespective and regardless of the circumstances of which they find themselves. >> i think it's a neat thing what you're saying. it goes to what you're saying, somebody's got to do it. >> i love people who figured it out by taking the reverse commute. some people did follow their passion. it's not like there's a playbook for happiness but a lot of people didn't. a lot of people were passionate to start with and think found themselves in a place where that was rewarded. >> in the show, you go one of
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these places, you go behind the scenes at an aquatic show to talk about what some people may not expect to be doing. i want to play a quick clip of that. here you go. >> that's right. here's chris. chris told me my wet suit is on backwards and i might care when i go down to depth. >> everything squeezes. you may want to change. >> how does that fit now? >> it feel like a dream. >> take two. nicely done. >> thanks. how are you? >> i feel great. >> you'll feel better in the deep pool now. >> bit. >> getting in water here that's
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complicated. it's building suspense right. >> lull. >> 35 feet in the air and you drop like an arrow. >> this show is at the winn casino. i saw it a year ago. i saw things that defy the laws of gravity. boneless people bending in ways nature didn't intend. vanishing into a pool of flaming water and not resurfacing. you think how did they do that. one of the things i'd like to do is go back and find the person because there's always one person who's in charge of all of this stuff. it turns out to be the greatest stage hand in the world. his name is dale. he is in charge of everybody's health and well being in most dangerous show done in vegas. he let me try of things i probably shouldn't have been allowed to try. i came head to head with their
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pr guy who was a little nervous but who wound up becoming an interesting part of the show. we leave with an appreciation for vegas, risk, pr, immersive tv and authenticity and story telling which i'm happy about. >> it's great show. you have to watch it. don't miss "somebody's got to do it." out front next. ghost busters is back with a surprising cast.
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>> there's something you don't see every day. >> i tried to think of the most harmless thing, something i love from my childhood. something that could never destroy us, mr. stay puff. >> nice thinking ray. >> bill murray has thought of a lot of thing including using in the cast. anderson starts now. good evening. thanks for tuning in. another possible ebola case in texas on the same day that the first person diagnosed with the disease in the united states has died. a sheriff's deputy who was in thomas duncan's apartment with county health officials is being examine ad at the same hospital where duncan died today. the head of the cdc offered condolences to duncan's loved ones and noted that even more than 3800 people have died, duncan is now the face we associate with