restrictions on mobility the north koreans said they wanted to have a dialogue on human rights and then china has been characterizing the north koreans. >> very interesting and very bizarre. i now turn you over to mr. blitzer in "the situation room." mr. blitzer? >> happening now, teen terror suspect. a chicago area youth appears in federal court accused of trying to join isis. what evidence will the government use against him? even crisis. congress clears the way for thousands of u.s. personnel to join the hot zone in liberia. can a massive military response help contain the virus?

north tori yefor korea mystery. kim jong-un not appearing in weeks. and experts are studying aerial photos in the missing college student of hannah graham. do they appear new clues? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> a chicago area teenager appearing in court today. mohammed hamzah kahn is accused of providing material support to a terrorist organization could get up to 15 years in prison. we're covering the latest developments in the ebola crisis. at this hour, we have our correspondents and our guests. let's begin with cnn's ted rowlands in chicago with the very latest.

what happened in court? >> reporter: well, wolf, this was to be a detention hearing to find out if the 19-year-old would be free on bail if his trial proceeded. kahn will be held for ten days without bail and then will be back in court. his parents were in court standing behind him. his lawyer argues that this is all just political, that isis is not a threat and kahn has done nothing wrong. >> in my opinion's isis is not a threat to the united states. in a manner of weeks, isis has become the most dangerous group on the face of the earth because they beheaded a few people and very cleverly with public media. >> reporter: he went on to say that his client is very

intelligent and religious. he's an american citizen and he's entitled to them. >> you were in the courtroom, ted. what was your impression of this 19-year-old? >> reporter: he's a teenager. he's a young man who comes a i cross as being younger than 19, slight, not menacing by any stretch of the imagination, talking to people who know him from his mosque. he's a very religious and studious young man who made this decision, according to the government, to go overseas to fight for isis. >> thanks very much, ted rowlands in chicago. meanwhile, isis is gaining ground in kobani and are only yards away from the turkish border. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto has been analyzing what the pentagon is saying about this. what is the latest?

>> we looked at the maps and it's been two weeks into the campaign in syria to see where the u.s.-led coalition is focusing its air power. number one so far in terms of the number of strikes, 98 strikes around the mosul dam. key infrastructure taken back from isis by the u.s.-led coalition as well as kurdish and the iraqi fighters on the ground. number two, erbil. 41 strikes there. but what's the number three target? in all of iraq and syria? it's right up here. it's kobani. 37 strikes so far and they are adding another half a dozen or so strikes every day. that's more than in sinjar. you remember that's where the yazidi people were holed up under the threat of generocide. it's more than in baghdad, perhaps the most important city in the whole war and more than the mobile refineries, oil refineries that are the key source of isis funding which are

a real focus of the campaign. so this, wolf, despite the fact that the pentagon says that air strikes will not save kobani and despite the fact that kobani is not strategically important and saying that kobani may fall and other cities in syria despite the u.s.-led campaign. it's interesting. still focusing a lot of very expensive u.s. air power right here. >> and kobani, we'll see what happens. a critically important place, at least for now. turkish forces are watching this unfold from their side of the border. only a few yards away. but the country's foreign minister said it's not realistic to expect ground access alone. elise labott is working this part of the story. elise? >> u.s. enjoy general john allen arrived in turkey to convince a key member of the coalition to prevent the slaughter of thousands of kurds on its

doorsteps and another town falling to isis. >> reporter: the kurdish minority conditions sending president obama's coalition to turkey to step up and use the substantial military. >> urgent and rapid steps are needed to hold isis capabilities and general allen and ambassador mcgurk will make that clear. >> reporter: there is a growing frustration with turkey's refusal to act. turkish tanks and soldiers stand motionless. amid gunfire and smoke rising across the border. the parliament military action inside syria and today the foreign minister said once again air strikes will not stop isis. but president erdogan has cited inaction from assad is an excuse of his own. he wants a buffer zone to

protect refugees across the border. american officials see turkey's foot dragging in kobani as a way to squeeze both kurds inside syria and those that have been fighting for 30 years. >> if it falls, that will be a dramatic development. they don't want that. but they want to leverage the possible fall of kobani for us and the syrian kurds to a line more pleasing to turkey. >> reporter: the prime minister told christiane amanpour that politics is not at play. >> we have done everything possible because they are our brothers and sisters. we don't see them as kurds or arabs. >> reporter: the u.s. wants to avoid a break with turkey which could jeopardize the fragile arab and muslim coalition against isis. as the main transit route for

foreign fighters join isis, the u.s. wants turkey to close its borders and crack down on illegal oil, a main funding source for isis activities. officials say this will be just as important as the military action over the long term and a focus of general allen's conversations in the next few days. wolf? >> elise, thanks very much. let's get more now with the republican congressman ed royce of california. he's joining us from orange county and is chairman of the house foreign relations committee. thank you for joining us. i know you've studied this closely. what could cause turkey, in your opinion, to join this fight on the ground in kobani against isis? >> well, the offer the turks have made is a no-fly zone. if they could get that no-fly zone which would protect their border, they would accept an arrangement. but at this point, the administration does not want to be tied to that no-fly zone.

there's another observation that the turks have made and we spent two weeks watching that town be shelled with artillery and tank fire without ordering up any air strikes. we went two weeks with the town being shelled by isis without responding at all and now we're responding with five planes a day. they don't consider that serious and i think a lot of our military have second thoughts about why it's taking so long to get any kind of action on the ground in terms of bringing in air strikes or getting any weapons in to kurds. >> what you're saying, i want to be precise, they want the u.s. to operate a no-fly zone over that part of syria. it's not turkey with the no-fly zone. the u.s. would do it? is that what you're saying? >> that's what they are asking for but it seems if the united states led along the turkish border, we could then get the

jordanians, saudis, uae, kuwaiti air force to use that offensively. mostly it's just an overflight and if that were done, i think that could bring the turks in and provide the infantry on the ground. you can either do that or you can get the weapons into the hands of the kurds. right now, kurdish forces in both iraq and syria, are fighting only with rifles. they have no -- up against these tanks and artillery, they have no long-range borders, no artillery, no anti-tank missiles, no armor whatsoever. and that's just not going to work. that's not going to hold back isis. >> how much of this, if any, do you believe turkey's reluctance is because they don't want to aid the kurds? they've got their own problem with kurds in turkey. the militant ppk, for example.

>> i think that's the turkish military view. the military doesn't like the idea of aiding the kurds but they are conflicted. and taking all of the christian and kurdish area, that then leaves them with a situation with more isis fighters trying to get into syria through turkey. and that's been a problem because these foreign fighters are what is swelling the ranks and the fact that they open up that route there will compound the problem for infiltration through turkey. >> the turks make a fair point. why are they being singled out for refusing to send in ground forces when none of the other 27 nato allies are willing to do so? >> right. it seems to me, if we wanted turkey to send in the ground forces for turkey to supply that infantry, then it would have

been worthwhile to at least consider their request for that no fly zone. if they were willing to do that quid pro quo for a no fly zone, that would have not only brought them in but solved the problem of the barrel bombs being dropped on aleppo. they feel very strongly about the humanitarian consequences of the consequences dropped on aleppo which is close to the turkish border. >> mr. chairman, stand by. i have more questions about u.s.-led air strikes, what's going on in syria and iraq, the isis threat here in the united states. much more of my interview with the house of the foreign relations committee when we come back. go ahead and put your bag right here. have a nice flight!

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fresh air strikes against isis forces now control about a third of the syrian city of kobani just across the border from syria. two dozen nations are contributing. but are all of them doing enough? we're back with congressman ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. i know you want these partners to do more. be specific, mr. chairman. what else would you like to see them do? >> well, the one thing we could like to see out of our coalition partners is our nato ally in turkey is providing infantry. their tank battalions are right

over the border. they are three football leagues away from the front. and if they would open up against the isis artillery, they could do an awful lot of damage. obviously the response from turkey has been, well, we want to see some kind of a strategy that guarantees two things. one is sort of a safe haven along the border for the refugees because we in turkey, so says their government, are tired of housing all of the refugees. we want overflights to secure that area. and second, we want to make sure you make it impossible for the air force of assad to go up and drop these barrel bombs on aleppo and on other targets. so they are arguing from a humanitarian standpoint, that they want the other coalition partners to do that in exchange for them actually engaging with their infantry and, frankly, there along the border.

i think it's time to have a real discussion with them about that because otherwise we are going to see a humanitarian nightmare. when this town falls, all of the christians, all of the kurds, the other sunnis that are in that town are going to fall to the sword. and we really need, frankly, to be able to get out of the chain of command a quicker decision. to go two weeks, as i pointed out, without any air strikes against the artillery or the armor and now to be only doing one a day, five a day at most, i mean, it just -- it just makes it look like it is for show and this is what people in the military tell me. it does not look like a serious effort. >> if this town of kobani goes and it's not just kurds, you're absolutely right. there's christians, arabs, all sorts of groups who live there.

there will be a blood bath. there will be a massacre by isis in the town square. they will go with their swords or guns and they are going to kill a lot of innocent people and yet the world seems to be watching this and saying, you know what, if it happens, it happens. there's nothing much that the u.s. or the others can do. and that would be a tragic moment indeed. >> and it would be a messaging moment, wouldn't it? because at that point, on the internet, the caliphate on the internet sends a message, nothing can stop us. look at this, we just took out these infidels, these apostates and we put them to death. come join us. god is with us. we're going to continue to expand our caliphate. and this is the thing that worries me, is the messaging. when you allow these victories city by city and you don't take

concerted action, you don't use the assets that are at your disposal and you don't have a strategy to move in quickly when you see them to begin to surround a town and hit that force hard, you're ending up creating a momentum here that's going to be harder and harder to stop. >> ed royce is the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> these are critical hours right now. coming up, new fears after the first u.s. ebola death. we're going to ask the mayor of dallas, texas, what's being done to keep the deadly virus from spreading into his community. we're also keeping a close eye on what is happening in north korea. right now, the leader has not been seen at weeks. will he make an appearance at an event that's about to get way in the next few hours? you're in "the situation room." financial noise

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there's growing anxiety following the death of the first u.s. ebola patient. new questions now being asked about why a dallas hospital initially sent the man away potentially exposing dozens of other people to the deadly virus. our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is joining us from dallas with more on the worry, the uncertainty going on. what is the latest, elizabeth? >> reporter: wolf, the latest is that the hospital and members of the family have been making statements following the death of thomas eric duncan. i want to read to you what mr. duncan's uncle recently set out. he said, it's suspicion thousand to us that all of the white patients in the u.s. survived this and one white patient pass aid way. meanwhile, the centers for

disease control is doing everything that it can to make sure a case like this doesn't happen again. the director of the disease control said thursday he's seen almost nothing like ebola. >> i will say that in the 30 years that i've been working in public health, the only other thing like this has been aids and we have to work now so this is not the world's next aids. >> reporter: liberia has been the hardest hit in west africa and the health care system is struggling to cope. >> reporter: blood splattered and too weak to hold up his head, he struggles under the weight of a desperately ill patient. the nurse agreeing to wear a camera to give us a glichbs of the weak reality he witnesses daily. here at this government-run treatment center. today the nurse managed to get this patient to drink water.

it's a small victory. >> reporter: meanwhile, questions persist surrounding the death of the first ebola patient diagnosed in the united states. thomas eric duncan's treatment was unlike those given to other ebola victims being treated here, prompting some to ask what went wrong. >> what if they had taken him right away and what if they had been able to get the treatment to him earlier? >> reporter: duncan was initially sent home with antibiotics despite showing ebola-like symptoms and telling a nurse he had just came back from liberia. doctors waited six days after his admission to give him an experimental drug. there's some relief in texas as a hospitalized sheriff's deputy in dallas tested negative for ebola. for a brief time, had he been in the apartment where duncan had been staying. >> for the public, every day that we go by without any of those 48 showing symptoms is a day that you should have more confidence that you are going to

be okay. >> reporter: still, no one's making any promises the united states won't see any more cases. >> i don't think we're making a claim that anything is 100% secure but what is most important is we know. we know how to contain. >> reporter: now, we got a statement from presbyterian hospital a while ago that said that mr. duncan was given his experimental medication as soon as his conditions warranted it. i've spoken to many doctors that have treated ebola patients and they emphasize, the sooner you get the medicine, the better. so it's not clear why they chose to weight six days to give him an experimental medication. wolf. >> by no means certain is it. elizabeth, even if they had given it to him earlier, he would have survived, right? >> reporter: that's correct. hospitals in nebraska chose to give these experimental

medications as early as possible in the hopes that they would work. >> a lot to be learned about ebola. thanks very, very much. the dallas mayor mike rawlins is promising to do everything possible to keep the ebola virus from spreading and said that thomas duncan's death hurts deeply. he also called the case an isolated incident. mayor rawlins is joining us in "the situation room." thank you for joining us. what's the most important lesson that you, the community of dallas, has learned from this experience? >> well, i think you have to communicate frankly, honestly, and you have to believe in science. if you do that and all of those things are problematic by their nature, people will do the right thing. we're focused on containment and we've got low risk, high-risk people we're checking twice a

day there and making sure their fever does not go up. there's zero percent chance you can get this if you don't come in contact with somebody that has this disease and a lot of people don't believe that yet. so we keep saying it. >> the deputy sheriff, who's apparently okay right now, he was never in direct contact with mr. duncan. >> no. >> but he was there 24 hours ago and we were watching helicopters do live coverage of this ambulance rushing him to the hospital. what happened there? >> that's an example of people who say we're going to be overly cautious to move to hysteria. arguably, he shouldn't have been given the ebola test but i wanted to make sure that we proved that this man was not -- did not have ebola because too many people were concerned he had it. and the predictions of all the

immunologists came out correct. we have to believe in science. that doesn't mean we shouldn't be anxious and we shouldn't take every action possible but we have to communicate to each other and then live the protocol that people felt. when we miss the protocol, that's when mistakes happen. >> we're showing our viewers the pictures of the space suits, protective gear, the guy being rushed to the hospital even though he had never been in direct contact with mr. duncan. he had been to the apartment and all of a sudden people say maybe you could get ebola from just being in the apartment and touching something. that's -- based on everything you've heard, that's really unlikely? >> they say it's zero percent. this is not a norovirus. it's very wimpy on the outside of your body. very strong on the inside but wimpy on the outside.

this should show people across the country that they don't need to panic in this situation. >> i want to read to you a statement from josephus weeks, mr. duncan's nephew. a lot of people are talking about this. he says this. "it is suspicious to us that all of the white patients survived and the one black patient died. he didn't begin treatment in africa. he began treatment here but he wasn't given a chance." now, you're the may juror of da. what is your reaction when you hear that? >> i just don't believe it. i don't believe that's the way human beings act in dallas, texas, and i don't believe that's the way the leaders of presbyterian hospital acted as well. we needed to move faster on some issues but that is something that i just don't buy. >> i think the big mistake was the initial mistake when he went to the emergency room and they didn't admit him right away. >> right. >> even though he told a nurse he had just come from liberia,

they let him go back to the apartment for two days and that was obviously a major blunder, right? >> there are missteps along the way. there's no question about that. it's something as a mayor we've got to understand. we have a mathematical chaos out there happening in the world with this disease that can show up at anyplace at any time but we expect everybody to be 100% prepared throughout the united states and when we're not, we make mistakes like this. we've got to do it. i believe it. but it's also naive to believe that every city, every county across america is going to be perfect. >> yeah. but the most important thing right now is to learn from those mistakes. >> exactly. >> make sure we don't repeat those mistakes and i think everyone around the country, probably much of the world, saw what happened in dallas and they are learning from that one initial mistake and hopefully it won't happen again. >> here, here. >> especially if someone shows up with symptoms. that should be a red flag right

there. mr. mayor, thank you for joining us. good luck to everyone in dallas. we'll be staying in close touch. >> thank you very much. coming up, could the next few hours clear up a huge mystery in north korea? will the leader finally appear in public. and investigators say they are nearing a critical point in the search for a missing university of virginia student. what's snapshot, you ask? only a revolutionary tool that can save you big-time. just plug it in, and the better you drive, the more cash you'll stash. switching to progressive can already save ye $500. snapshot could save ye even more. meat maiden! bringeth to me thine spiciest wings of buffalo.

any time now we make get an initial indication of whether a major power shakeup is taking place in north korea. we're monitor rg ting the state television to find out if kim

jong-un shows up for an important celebration. he hasn't been seen in weeks. cnn's brian todd is here. >> in a few hours the major celebration begins in north korea. it's an event kim jong-un went to last year. u.s. intelligence officials tell us they are watching this event closely. the ramifications if kim shows up and if he doesn't are huge. it's the most anticipated north korean propaganda display in years. friday's anniversary of the founding of the ruling workers party. will kim jong-un emerge after staying out of public view for more than a month? >> if he doesn't appear by the beginning of next week, then i think a lot of the rumors and theories about his disappearance is really going to go into overdrive. >> reporter: including rumors of coup with the north korean military now calling the shots. a white house official tells cnn that appears to be a false

rumor. experts say when something big happens inside north korea, it's often signaled by a large-scale military movement. a south korean official tells cnn, his government has seen no sign of that in recent days but that doesn't mean that something is not going on. colonel choe kyong song. >> if they were trying to rebuild power behind him and not in the military, this could lead to action by part of the palace guard and cripple his power. >> reporter: if kim's power is crippled, it's ominous. north korea's stability is based on the kim dynasty. his sister is believed to be handling important duties but not someone that could run the

government. >> and there's a lot of accounts about kim jong-nom talked about not getting along with kim jong-un. kim jong-chul is interested in the arts and in the media and in culture and things like that. he hasn't really expressed an interest in north korean politics and north korean politics is practiced. it's not a job he would necessarily want to take if it was offered to him. >> so if the kim dynasty is to survive, it appears to be all or nothing with kim jong-un and he's setting new marks for himself for a lack of visibility. this chart is from nknews.org. it shows his public appearances since january of last year. you can see they spiked in june of last year.

32 then. then they went down and up slightly. since july of this year, look, they have just plummeted. his longest absence of a supreme leader before this, 24 days. he has just broken that record by two weeks. wolf? >> and we're only a few hours from whether or not he shows up at this event in north korea. brian, thanks very much. if you join brian for a facebook chat about kim jong-un, right at the top of the hour, 6:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room" facebook page. head over there right now to submit your questions. facebook.com/cnnsituationroom. up next, new details about the search for a missing of university virginia student. and we're hearing from the attorney of the main suspect in the woman's disappearance. plus, a powerful journey of self discovery. >> all next week, they traveled the world to chase the story but not just anyone's story. their own. >> it's going to be a journey of

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this the cnn breaking news. >> breaking news about the suspect in the disappearance of the university of virginia student hannah graham. just as authorities are about to wrap up their search of this eight-mile radius around charlottesville, there's new information coming in about the suspect, jesse matthew and another missing person's case. with us from charlottesville, coy barefoot. also with us, our law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. he's a former assistant director of the fbi. coy, you have new information that police have stepped up the information of what's being described as a forensic link with jesse matthew and the 2009

murder of another person in the area. >> it became apparent that the police are ratcheting up their investigation between the possible ties between jesse matthew, charged with the abduction of hannah graham, and the abduction and murder of morgan harrington. she was last seen here in charlottesville, a 20-year-old virginia tech student, last seen here on october 17, 2009, almost five years ago. her remains were found three months later. virginia state police have already confirmed that there is a forensic link between mr. matthew and morgan's murder. so the question becomes then, where was jesse matthew five years ago? i learned he was living here in charlottesville in an apartment complex and driving a cab. he was driving a cab for access taxi. it was a light brown van cab, and interestingly enough, there are eyewitnesss who say that morgan was last seen getting into a van. we can confirm here and sources

close to the investigation have told me that police now have, after much searching, they have seized that same van cab that mr. matthew was driving in october of 2009. and we can assume that forensic investigations will begin immediately into what they might find in that cab. >> and i'm hearing also, coy, that you spoke to the company that owned that van that matthew purchased. what can you tell us about that? >> i actually spoke with a person who worked for many years alongside mr. matthew. i was with this person this morning, getting some of this person's memories of what took place and what he was like. and while we were talking, this person's cell phone rang and it was the virginia state police on the line asking to speak to them immediately. so i can also confirm that the state police are reaching out to all the former employees of that

cab company, and they are interviewing them trying to learn where was jesse matthew on the night that morgan harrington went missing and what was his behavior like in the wake of that incident. i can also report here for the first time that this person told me when the wanted police sketch was released, police were searching for a man related to the abduction of morgan harrington, and the sketch was released that everybody who worked with jesse matthew started teasing him and saying that he looked exactly like that guy in the sketch. that has not been reported. i just learned it this morning. i asked this person, how did he react? they said, well, some days he would laugh about it. other days he was very quiet about it. but they were all convinced at the cab company that he looked like the guy in the sketch. >> tom, the virginia state

police say they have some sort of forensic link, not describing what it is between matthew and harrington, the young woman. but they've filed no charges against matthew for the murder. it's 5-year-old case. how hard would it be to develop a real case against this guy in connection with the death of this young woman? >> apparently it is difficult to put these pieces of evidence together to have it get to a point where they can bring murder charges against him. so it's obviously a methodical effort on their part to get the information correct. one question i would have is going back to the time when these employees were teasing him about looking like the sketch did anybody think about calling the police or making the comparison. not only did he look like the sketch, but draw a similar vehicle to what was being reported as the last vehicle she got into. that part of the investigation needs to be renewed now, and try to add that part of it to it.

>> just to be precise, coy, did they find any forensic evidence in that van? >> that has not been reported. i can't confirm that at all. but we do know and we can confirm that they do have that van that he was driving five years ago, and that is now in police custody. >> the whole notion, though, that this case -- these cases -- he's in jail right now, and so far they're holding him without bail. it looks like it's going to be very difficult to file formal charges, especially if they don't find the bold of hannah graham. >> right. doing the forensics on that van will be difficult, because you'll have hundreds of people that have been in that vehicle over the course of time leaving their samples of their dna. >> tom fuentes, coy barefoot,

we'll continue our conversations. obviously we're watch thing closely. coming up, airport workers on strike over safety concerns over ebola. we'll get the very latest. our own dr. sanjay gupta is standing by live. isis forces tightening up their grip on a city in the syrian-turkish border.

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happening now, isis tightens its grip despite air strikes. get ready to screen passengers and one victim's family is asking if he could have been saved. i'll talk to dr. anthony fouci. police shooting near ferguson, missouri. may have been a shootout, but it sparked violent protests overnight. we have new video as residents brace for more trouble. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we're tracking two major developing stories this hour. isis is tightening its hold over the city of kobani. vicious street fighting is bringing heavy casualties as the

united states steps you have air strikes, the jihadists are paying a price. turkey has tanks overlooking the battle but won't use them, sparking protests inside turkey. as ebola fears grip a u.s. city, the victim of a family is asking if he could have been saved. and five of america's busiest airports get ready to screen travelers. cnn's richard quest and dr. sanjay gupta are standing by with new details. we have full coverage this hour. let's begin with isis and the savage onslaught against the syrian border town. despite fierce resistance from kurdish defenders and u.s.-led air strikes, the jihadists are slowly gaining control. correspondent jim sciutto has the latest. >> we learned that the u.s. has carried out today nine air strikes in an around kobani in an attempt to save the city from

advancing isis fighters, but the fighters keep advancing and getting reinforcements from the south and east of the country. it is tonight the u.s. military's assessment that isis can take the city. it's the most visible front in the cwar against isis. and despite warplanes patrolling the skies over kobani, isis fighters are still gaining ground there. they control a third of the city. bolstered by reinforcements from their strong hold in raqqa. within sight of kobani, just across the border, are dozens of turkish tanks. but they continue to watch from the sidelines. today, while acknowledging that air strikes alone will not stop isis' advance, turkey's foreign minister made clear his country will not commit ground troops. >> translator: it is not

realistic to expect turkey to conduct a ground operation on its own. we are holding talks. once there is a common decision, turkey will not hold back away from playing its part. >> reporter: isis is the enemy, but the war against it has pitted nato allies turkey and the u.s. against each other. today, president obama dispatched his point men for the military campaign to istanbul to find ways for turkey to help. >> the events of last week made it clear that rapid steps are needed to halt isil military capabilities and general allen and the ambassador will make that clear in their meetings with turkish officials. >> reporter: the trouble is, the two sides have different priorities. for the u.s. is, it'sis. for turkey, it remains the regime of bashar al assad. and that's generating a real division within nato. >> there's a bit of ala carte

view of their membership in nato that is very troubling. >> does it make them a pad nato ally? >> it makes them a problematic nato ally. we've had those before. they're not the object ones. but they are definitely a problem for the alliance. >> reporter: with these latest air strikes against those isis positions around kobani, that brings to the total of 46 air strikes around kobani, the second most struck targets since the beginning of this campaign in iraq or syria. for a town that the military officials say is not strategically important, which they say cannot be saved by air power, it's a tremendous allocation of air power to stem that assault. >> they're trying to prevent a massacre of the people there of the kurds and the christians and a lot of arabs there, as well, who potentially could be slaughtered by these isis terrorists if they take over that city. >> they're not using the word "genocide," which they used for

protecting the yazidi people. it's not a term they're using to talk about the syrian kurd there is. but if you're a family that's fled across the border, i don't think you're making those distinctions. >> jim, thank you very much. the battle for kobani is playing out under the gaze of the turkish military and in full view of the entire world. phil black is joining us now live from the turkish-syrian border. what does it look like there, phil? >> reporter: well, through the day, wolf, we saw u.s. b-1 bombers in the skies over kobani with multiple huge explosions around the perimeter of the city. huge explosions, huge columns of smoke over the skyline. incred my dramatic and those kurdish fighters that are resisting fighters are grateful saying that the united states is hitting the right targets. that it is making a difference.

but on the streets of kobani, they've had a day of tough fighting. they say isis has sent reinforcements from its self-declared capital of raqqa deeper in syria. that means they're up against greater numbers, as well as being outgunned. what it's meant for them in 24 hours is those kurdish fighters that have taken territory back from isis, they haven't been able to hold it. while there is pressure on turkey to get involved here, what those kurdish fighters in the city say is they don't want turkish troops to save them, just for the turkish government to lift restrictions at the border so supplies can get sent in. so they believe if they can get resupplied, they can hold out for some time yet. >> if they were to make a decision to move in, i assume, and you're right there, phil,

the turks have a lot of firepower on their side of the border, tanks, armored personnel carriers. they could move into syria and protect kobani. is that right? >> they have a huge capable military, no doubt about that. they would no doubt suffer casualties along the way. what they're concerned about, one of the demands they're making before any ground operation can begin is a no-fly zone and they're concerned about the regime of the president, the syrian president bashar al assad and concerned about his air force and his air force striking turkish troops. a turkish ground operation for the moment remains a nonstarter. >> phil black on the scene for us on that border between turkey and syria. a dangerous part of the world right now. thank you very much. let's go in depth with the

former cia official, phil mudd along with retired general mark kimet. gentlemen, thank you very much for coming in. in fairness to turkey, should turkey be the only nato ally being pressured to send boots on the ground? >> turkey is the one that has the most concern about the isil threat. so they have to take some responsibility. they're clearly negotiating for a better deal than they're being offered by general allen. >> nato was unified in dealing with afghanistan. there was a nato presence there. why can't nato get its act together and deal with isis? >> i think they will, but you're talking about a near-term problem in kobani. it's probably too much to ask

for nato to come to a 28-country agreement on this. >> you heard jim sciutto report that the u.s. and others got together to save the aryazidis iraq. >> i think what we have to understand is we're way behind the curve here. we have a freight train that started years ago. we've been bombing for months. i suspect the bombings are having more impact than we know. but we're behind the eight ball and trying to get ahead of it. >> the kurdish fighters are fierce, but they only have guns. they've got very little equipment. the free syrian army doesn't seem to be able to do much to protect these people. there really isn't much hope in the face of this isis onslaught. >> if you're looking for hope today or tomorrow, step back, strap your seat on.

we're going to be at this. if you're looking for hope, six, 1, 24 months down the road, i would have more optimism. >> how important is kobani? >> militarily it's not important. but if kobani falls with the entire world watching, this is going to be a significant strategic victory for isil and a tremendous recruiting tool. >> especially if they go in there and they start videotaping the slaughter of a whole bunch of kurds or christians or arabs, from their perspective, they think that helps hem get recruits. >> if you're a terrorist, if you're an insurgent who wants to hold territory and run a government, the success you have on the video is we're taking territory, we're the players you want to join. i think it's a tremendous sort of success in terms of image. i don't think over the course of time it's strategic success in

the amount of territory. >> they have a huge amount of territory right now, from syria into iraq. can you believe that isis controls mosul for example? looks like they're on the verge of taking fallujah, some of these other places. these are huge, huge important areas where so much american blood and treasure was spent. >> that's right, but i also agree with phil when he said we've got to take a longer view of this. those towns are not going to be retaken in six months, possibly not 12 months. the iraqi security forces need to get their feet back underneath them and go on a count offensive. it's going to take time and patience. >> the mission is to degrade isis. this notion of destroying isis, at least in the next few years, is unrealistic. >> i don't understand the debate in america today. we have blunted threats in afghanistan, pakistan, somalia,

yemen. in most those cases, we've used drones, intelligence assets to damage an adversary. in this case, we're stepping back somehow and saying defeat of the adversary is our measure of success. i don't get it. victory to me is using partners to blunt the adversary. we don't have to kill every single one of them. >> the u.s. military has been trying to destroy al qaeda for 13 years. it's been degraded but certainly hasn't been destroyed and that's been a 13-year war going on. >> it's going to be longer than that. if we think this is not -- there's not a connection between al qaeda, al qaeda in iraq and isil, we're fooling ourselves. this is a long, continuous book, but we've got a long way to go before this is over. >> thanks for coming this to both of you. still ahead, new ebola fears after the death of a patient in

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fresh questions about the hospital in dallas, texas, where the first ebola patient diagnosed in the united states was being treated. he's the only person to die of ebola in the united states, and many are now asking if he was receiving the best care available. to him and why the hospital initially sent him away. our medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is in dallas with more. what's the very latest,

elizabeth? >> reporter: wolf, duncan's nephew issued a statement saying he was concerned that the white patients treated for ebola in the u.s. lived but that the one black man treated died. so the hospital had respond told these kinds of allegations earlier and said he was treated the way any other patient would have been treated regardless of nationality or ability to pay for care. we have a long history of treating a multicultural community in this area. there have been these concerns did he get as good treatment as other patients have received in this country for ebola. it took nearly a week to get him an experimental drug, whereas others got those drugs much more quickly. the hospital said that he got his experimental drug as soon as his condition warranted it. wolf, it's not clear when i was in liberia, doctors said it's really important to get these treatments as soon as possible. it's not clear why he was in the hospital for nearly a week

before get thing drug. wolf? >> elizabeth, thank you very much. let's get some more now with one of the doctors in charge with the u.s. response to this outbreak. joining us is dr. anthony fauci of the national institutes of health, the director of the national institutes of allergies and infectious diseases and an expert on this issue. thank you very much for joining us. as you know, there's a lot of fear right now concerning ebola all over the country. so how do you balance people walking into hospitals, emergency rooms with ebola and people are panicking, they go to the hospital thinking they may have ebola, they just have a fever, an upset stomach. because you see this going on all over the country right now in emergency rooms. >> well, wolf, i think the best way to approach that is to first of all respect the concern and the fear and understand it. but to try and emphasize that you've got to base how you act

and how you approach a concern situation based on the scientific evidence that we know. i know because people come over to me and say, i don't feel well, do you think i have ebola? the reality is, there's been one person in this country who has come here with ebola. and that's mr. duncan, who unfortunately passed away. he's had contact with a certain group of people that are now under surveillance and being monitored on a daily basis to see if they develop symptoms. so if an individual had no contact or even any remote chance of contact with someone who was actively sick with ebola, then if you wake up with a sniffle or whatever it is, you don't have ebola. so you should not be worrying about it, because the evidence tells us that there's no chance that you would have it. if you are in close proximity, you had contact with and were exposed to bodily fluids of a

person with ebola, like many of our colleagues in west africa are, then that's a big risk. but if you're at no risk, you shouldn't imagine that you're at a risk for ebola. >> the director of the centers for disease control said the world needs to act now so ebola, in his words, doesn't become the world's next aids. what does he mean by that? >> well, i mean, i'm not sure precisely, but i think what tom meant is early on, when i and tom -- i'm a little older than tom, but not much older. but back in the '80s when we were dealing with hiv-aids, there was a lot of unknowns. people were making assumptions about getting infected by going into a restaurant and being waited upon by a gay waiter who might be hiv-infected. that was all things fueled by fear. we don't want that to happen here. we want to take this epidemic

very seriously and do things according to the protocols that the cdc has recommended and developed. but we don't want to start becoming frightened over something that doesn't justify fear. i think that's what we're referring to. because back then, there was a lot of fear about things that were completely unrealistic. >> i want to show our viewers some video, dr. fauci, from our cnn reporter, a courageous reporter in monrovia, liberia right now. a nurse wore a camera inside a government-run treatment center in liberia. this is the first time we're seeing what it looks hike to take care of someone with ebola over there in liberia. how do you get this under control in africa? the cdc said if it's not under control, a million people, even more, could be suffering from ebola by january or february. >> yeah. what we need to do is what we've been talking about for some time

now. we've got to make sure we get the resources that are needed to identify, isolate, treat safely, protect health care workers, and do contact tracing and doing the appropriate isolation if someone is at a high-risk or has been exposed to ebola in a way that they are infected or at least suspected of being infected. this has to be done. we need the resources. we need many more beds, thousands of beds. we need hundreds, if not thousands of health care workers that we need to train. the united states has stepped up very, very aggressively in our efforts. we're sending the military there, 3,000 to 4,000 troops. they're going the give command, control, logistics, engineering and set up the hospitals. but we can't do it alone. we have to have the community of nations chip in and make sure

this is a global response. the cdc's correct, if we don't do that, this has the possibility of expanding in a way that's truly extraordinary, in a much larger effect that we're seeing right now. >> that's why 4,000 u.s. military personnel are heading over there to hi beeria ii iia liberia to deal with this crisis. we'll see if any other countries get involved. i want to read a powerful statement from josephus weeks, thomas eric duncan's nephew. >> what's your response when you hear that kind of statement? >> you know, wolf, it's understandable. there's a great pain when you

lose a loved one. often times you try and look for reasons why it happened. sometimes those reasons could be misplaced. i believe he received excellent care in the texas hospital. clearly there was a misstep early on when he wasn't diagnosed immediately when he came to the emergency room. but i cannot believe as a physician that they deliberately and in any way did not give this man the best possible care that they had. they have a history of treating a multicultural group of people at that hospital. so though i can understand the pain of the relatives, i just can't believe that he was deliberately treated in a less well way than others. >> dr. fauci, thouch for joining us and thanks for what you and your team are doing. we appreciate it very much. just ahead, new airport screenings for ebola are set to begin in the united states, but

will they do enough to protect the spread of the virus? we have two experts standing by. dr. sanjay gupta and richard quest are here in "the situation room." we'll discuss when we come back.

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marsh is at washington's dell us international airport. what's the latest over there? >> reporter: in less than 48 hours, we will begin to see the more rigorous screening procedures roll out at u.s. airports. of course, the goal is to play defense against the deadly ebola virus. even before the security or the screening measures begin, already some people are questioning how effective they will be. at airports in west africa, in countries hardest hit by the ebola virus, everyone departing is checked for a fever. now five major u.s. airports are about to begin temperature checks for travelers when they land here. some experts say the new

screening provides a false sense of security. >> people can take tylenol and mask that fever. this can't a full-proof strategy for keeping ebola out of the country. >> reporter: authorities at west african airports denied boarding to 77 people with fever or other ebola symptoms. >> people have fevers for lots of reasons and you're going to be looking for a needle in a hey stack. >> reporter: temperature checks were announced after the first ebola patient diagnosed in the u.s. died in a dallas hospital wednesday. the cdc does not believe he had any ebola symptoms when he arrived. u.s. officials acknowledge even with the new measures, more ebola cases could arrive in the u.s. >> we're not making a claim that anything is 100% secure. but what's most important is we know. >> reporter: now authorities in

england are ramping up their screening procedures in two london airports and canada is planning increased screening, as well. >> my goal is that we create internationally as many different checkpoints as possible for travelers who go through the system. >> reporter: meanwhile, in new york, 200 workers at laguardia's airport walk off the job, following complaints of say they a lack of equipment in training. >> the ebola scare, the workers are cleaning the planes, they find all sorts of things, needles, vomit, all kinds of stuff. >> reporter: well, their employer has a different story saying they updated those employees on new ebola protocols last week. how, just a short time ago, we heard from the port authority. they have agreed to listen to

the worker's concerns. after hearing that, the workers said they will return to work. back to you, wolf. >> thank you very much. renee marsh at dulles international airport. let's dig deeper. joining us, richard quest and our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, let's talk a little about these screenings at airports. by no means they're going to be perfect. people will slip through, right? >> there's no question. the context is important here. fever is often the first sign that someone is starting to get sick. that's why it's an effective potential screening tool. we talk about this known as the incubation period. the time between exposure and the time someone starts to develop symptoms. it can be as long as 21 days, typically around eight days. you've been exposed but you don't develop symptoms, the screening is not going to pick that up.

i want to point out one thing, if you look back over the past couple of months, they do these exit screenings out of these west african countries. about 36,000 people have been screened, about a quarter of those people going to the united states. 77 of those people had a fever, 77 out of 36,000. and none of them were found to have ebola. so we're not talking about large numbers here. but to your point, there is a period of time when someone could sneak through. >> and if someone had a fever on the plane, they could take some medication and the fever would go away, right? >> yeah. if someone wanted to game the system, they could even take a tylenol or something before they got to the airport and potentially get through that way. when people start to develop higher fevers, they likely have other symptoms. if their eyes start to develop redness, these types of things,

they may come under a little more scrutiny. but if the thought is, they know they've been exposed and they want to get out of liberia or sierra leone, they could take a tylenol and expose the imperfections, if you will, of the system. >> richard, you're here in washington. there's a meeting of world leaders going on. what are you hearing what the international community should be doing. >> this is not about policies but practicality. what we heard today from the head of the imf and world bank, they need basic raw resources. medicines, beds, tents, mobile hospitals. most importantly, they need qualified staff to go there. the president said to me today, the u.s. hospital system had not yet provided sufficient numbers of people to go there and help. and that's what they're really calling for.

this is now all about literally medical boots on the ground. >> this is an international crisis, and maybe up to 1 million could be infected in africa if nothing is done between now and january or february. sanjay, just getting word, and i want your reaction from spain that seven more people have now been admitted to hospitals. fierce of ebola growing there. we heard about that one nurse who has ebola, contracted it in spain. it looks like there are 14 people in hospitals in spain dealing with this crisis. give us some perspective. >> well, there's a lot of fear, and there's some collision of fear and what will turn out to be true ebola may be a much smaller number if any of those people at all. we know who was moving around the city. may have had a mild fever at that point, and the concern is, could she have been infectious at that time.

typically with mild fever, people aren't sprelding the disease. it's when somebody gets really sick, that's when they start spreading the disease. i understand the fear and they're problem hi going to look at these people carefully and see if they can get sick. i think statistically, if you had to look at it, the odds are on their sides still that they're going to be okay. >> the initial person who got ebola in spain is a health worker. i assume health workers all over the world are concerned right now. >> you know, the idea that this nurse got sick, she wasn't sure how she got sick initially, and people started to speculate, does that mean ebola is transmitting in a different way? what we found out is that she likely touched a part of her skin with a glove that may have

been contaminated. the point is this, there's a human air ror componee error co. but to extrapolate and say this now means ebola is translating more quickly, i don't think it means that. i think the science stays the same. the fear grows, but the science is -- >> strikers are afraid to go in the planes now because of needles and vomiting. what is going on here now? >> what's going on is unbridled fear and it will get worse and grow until the crisis is put to bed. what the world bank basically said today, wolf, which is really interesting. if you look at what the u.s. is doing at the airports, this is the equivalent of putting a wet powell under the door of a

building on fire. it's not going to do much good. the only way to deal with this crisis, wolf, they booelieve, i where the fire is, and that's in west africa. >> is it fair to say, sanjay, planes in general, whether a small or big plane, that there's potentially a lot of stuff on that plane where you can get infected? >> i think it's a theoretical possibility. when you're the person on the plane and here it's a theoretical processability, that's frightening. could the virus live on some surfaces? yes. is it likely to get somebody else sick? it could happen and we're dabbling on the edges here a bit. but again, if you're the person

who is going to potentially be on that plane next, you can understand the fear. >> sanjay, thank you very much. richard quest, sanjay gupta, appreciate it. an officer involved shooting in the st. louis area parks protests in missouri. new details about the multiple shots fired between a white police officer and young mam man. what does an apron have to do with car insurance? every time you tie on an apron, you make progress. and we like that. because progress is what we make, too.

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protests on the streets of ferguson, missouri overnight after another officer involved in the shooting in the incident in the st. louis area. police stay young african-american man fired on a white off-duty police officer. leapt's discuss what's going on. joining us john dpgaskin, don

lemon and tom fuentes. john, you're in missouri after last night's shooting in the st. louis area. is there a sense that the increased unrest will never end? what is going on? >> we certainly hope that it will not start back up. last night was a very peaceful night, although you had many people that were angry within that neighborhood, protesters that came from ferguson and across the area went to the scene of the shooting. you had hundreds there last night. but there was no violence. police officers used a very large amount of restraint. there was no violence from police officers or towards police officers. i believe last night under the circumstances was a very exceptional and peaceful night considering what we've seen. so i hope people will remain peaceful with the protests coming to town this weekend.

tensions are still high. cooler heads prevailed last night. >> let me talk about that, tom. the st. louis medical examiner announced that the 18-year-old was shot seven or eight times after firing on the police officer. officials say he was carrying a stolen gun. the number of times he was shot, does that surprise you? >> we need to investigate this further, wolf, and see the number of times, all the first couple of shots could have missed. officers under stress are going to be very inaccurate. we saw this in the south carolina state trooper shooting where point blank range the officer only wounded the person in the hip. so it's not easy to hit the target under those stressful situations and at night. to we need to analyze if the person, if the young man that was killed never surrendered,

never put the gun down and the officer was just shooting away until he hit them, that alters the situation a little bit. >> don, what is so worrisome to me is this -- i guess the unraveling of the trust between local community guys and police officers, if you will. it seems to be getting worse based on all these incidents. i'm anxious to get your thought. >> it does seem to be getting worse. it concerns me because police officers must have control. but they must have respect. i have the highest respect for john gaskin there in st. louis, but i have to disagree with him. most of the protesters were peaceful, but when you look at protesters kicking police vehicles and being aggressive towards the officers, yes, you have the right to protest, but at some point, when you consider to -- if you continue to go on

with not all the information, and to intimidate police officers, and to damage vehicles, you start doing more harm to your cause than good. so everyone, including the protesters, need to take a step back when these incidents happen and hopefully it does happen again. to get all of the information before you start to protest, to figure out exactly how you're going to respond. >> i want john to respond to that. go ahead, john. >> well, i definitely do agree with don, as well. we are encouraging people to remain calm, to allow the prosecutor to allow law enforcement to try to give us as much information as possible. this investigation is very much different, in my opinion, from michael brown's. the prosecutor has been much more transparent. a whole lot more details have come out today than we ever saw with the michael brown investigation.

so we're encouraging people to allow the information to come forward, to remain calm and certainly don't resort to violence, because we don't want to do more harm than good in this situation. >> don lemon, we'll see you back later tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. we watch you every night. tom fuentes, thanks to you, as well. more on this story obviously coming up tomorrow. just ahead, did the white house try to cover up for one of its interns in that overseas prostitution scandal that snared a number of secret service agents? we'll have late developments. stay with us. nineteen years ago, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects

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did the white house cover up its possible connection to the prostitution scandal that snared a number of secret service agencies. michelle was looking into this and file this is report. >> reporter: tonight the white house said the intern was not given any special treatment after a prostitution ring before a presidential trip to columbia. the record that shows an inturn had her stay the night, was more than a slip of paper and a similar record for another scandal were force. they say the inturn's credits were purposeful. through his lawyer, the former

intern denied wrongdoing. neither he nor his father contacted anyone at the white house. an investigator said that higher ups were told to keep him out of the final report, including a claim that one secret service agent said he saw thein turn with a woman he believed to be a prostitute. the white house goes back to the bipartisan investigation of all of this that could not substantiation the allegation of a cover-up. back then the white house said this -- >> there have been no specific credible allegations of misconduct by anyone on the white house advance team or the white house staff. >> reporter: yet what remains are questions about whether the white house's own investigation went far enough or nearly as far as that of the secret service agencies. jason chef et cetes requested a

documents relating to the white house review, saying it is unclear how the white house came to its conclusion. did they conduct a thorough and exhaustive review. and were they held to a different standard than the white house staff. and they are asking if the white house went and interviewed any of the agents who supposedly saw this intern with an alleged prostitute and it is unclear whether that could be substantiated but it is clear the white house only primarily interviewed its own staff. >> michelle kazzinski, thank you very much. and hillary clinton and chris christie are out on the campaign trail and they are stumping for rivals in pennsylvania. brianna cure is joining us live from philadelphia. how is it going?

>> reporter: this was an interesting match-up here to say the least. chris christie campaigning for tom corbett, who is very much the under dog in this case. he took the stage about an hour before hillary clinton did here in the heart of philadelphia, for tom wolf, the challenger who is up very much in the polls and poised to deliver for democrats one of the biggest turnovers of the gubinatorial level this election. very different campaign styles. christy attacking tom wolf and calling him a liar and focusing encore bet's experience. here is what he said. >> you cannot anticipate when you go into the voting booth in 26 days, every issue that will come across the governor's desk. the only thing you can count on for certain is the honesty and the integrity of the person you put in that chair. that is all you can count on.

>> reporter: clinton tried for a more inspirational positive message, talking about wolf and what appeared to be a tune-up for her own campaign advantage and the causes of being a american worker and the challenges ahead. >> nobody innovates more and we have spent years crawling our way back out of the hole that was dug in 2008. but we have a lot more to do if we want to unleash our full potential. >> reporter: and she was focusing on women tonight. equal pay, reproductive rights, big applause lines here in philadelphia. >> i suspect we'll see more of hillary clinton on the campaign trail and chris christie on the campaign trail over the next few weeks before the november 4th mid-term elections.

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