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football team. this is not the nfl. this is high school. now their season is canceled. some parents fear for their kids. others say they want them to play. we have got the story tonight. let's begin with the latest on ebola in america. sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent here. the family of thomas eric duncan left with lingering question as but how he died and several other patients in the united states did not die. we're learning from the hospital that his heart stopped tonight. >> the hospital said early in his hospital stay, mr. duncan expressed his wishes to his attending physician that the care team should not perform chest compressions or cardioversion to preserve life. they were saying maximal in the ventionthe -- interventions. this is the dsr, do not

resuscitate. the reason is one feels like they have gotten to the point where they heart stopped. their disease has progressed pretty far along. the heart stopping means a period of time the blood flow is not getting to the brain as well. the question people ask themselves. i may have be saved. what kind of life am i going to lead what condition will i be in will my brain function the same way, is my body going to function the same way. part of this is just their own personal bias toward this thing. >> can we talk about something out there. the family responded now. his nephew this week said this in a statement. read it. it is suspicious to us that all of white patients survived and this one black patient passed away. there are differences in this case, right? >> no question. some differences which should be investigated a little further. not the least of which. first we know he was diagnosed in the united states as opposed to africa. the first patient ever diagnosed outside of africa is mr. duncan. he did go to the hospital. he had a fever. and he identified himself as some one who came from liberia.

he was sent away. he was given antibiotics. despite the fact he was thought to have a viral infection. antibiotics don't work for i va r -- work for viral. he was not given experimental therapies. we are not sure they work. they have been given to other patients. the hospital says the zmapp was not available. he got something else. brincidofovir. the blood transfusion was not something he got. there was no match. >> the hospital went through some of the ones. he wasn't hospitalized rati ed away. whose fault is that? the hospital don't know if they flagged it. didn't get experimental drug. a different kind of drug. explained that. the hospital had no advance notice. the other hospitals had advance notice the patients were coming. information in the case had been muddled.

the family believes his insurance stat uh playus played. >> the hospital is deing into that. >> the hospital takes care of a diverse population of people. dr. fouci talked about that. hard to figure out people's motivations. did he get different care because of something beyond medical reasons. i don't know. i would be hard press to jump to that conclusion. look if it were my family member. i would want some of these questions answered as well. >> yeah, anyway. the their debunkingcome -- completely not true. race had nothing to do with it. the hospital goes through tip. stay with me sanjay. i want your reaction to this piece on a nsew york neighborhod with close ties to africa, little liberia. how the hospital that serves the neighborhood is preparing for ebola. >> reporter: at this small colorful market women from west africa sell palm tree oil and

sweet potato leaves. the women say it suppose lead replenishes blood. they talk about ebola. with roughly 10,000 if grants, staten island's little liberia is one of the largest liberian communities outside of africa. many fled during the country's brutal 14-year civil war. now, they face a different war. >> ebola is worse than the civil war. with the civil war. people could run to different african countries to seek refuge. with ebola you cannot run nowhere. you got to sit and die. >> aretha best manhattan yates, head the community association here. she said people regularly go back to see family or welcome those who visit. in the last few months things have changed. you tell some one your from liberia they pull away. >> following the death of the first ebola patient, yates says there is more tension among immigrants. fearful about going to hospitals. >> people are not being open about this whole thing. they're trying to keep it to

themselves. >> that is a problem. being able to identify symptoms quickly is crucial. at nearby staten island university hospital, which serves the liberian community, doctors, nurses, administrators have no illusions. ebola may come here. first thang come in. have you traveled. yes. within the last 21 days. where have you traveled. >> is it a risk? of course a risk. any more of of a risk here than anywhere else. maybe new york city. not because of west africans here, because there are so many planes flying here. >> the doctor head up the hospital emergency medicine department. a decontamination room, access from the emergency bay outdoors leads straight to isolation room. >> the patient never has to go anywhere into the general hospital? >> that's right. >> completely isolated. >> isolation rooms are designed to keep ebola contained. >> we do have a plan in place. we would be running a dirty emergency department and clean emergency department if that were to happen. >> doctors and nurses briefed

every day on everything ebola. >> do you feel look you are getting enough information from the cdc or from the health department in terms of how, you are, you are, suppose to respond to ebola. >> yes, more so from our department. they kind of channel information to us. so -- we have a pretty good idea what to do. >> the hospital is prepared to expect the worst. while little liberia hopes it will some how be spared. >> sanjay, you saw there, in deborah's piece. you can see hospitals are preparing. for possible situations like what happened in dallas. they say there were 50 medical staff, dedicated to one pash ti in the wing. put resources into perspective. >> incredible amount of resources for one patient. one question is, is that really necessary. you are dealing with something that is the first patient to ever diagnose with ebola. there is a flooding of the zone if you will.

people really, a lot more resources dedicated. you saw one isolation bed in the piece there would be enough to take care of a single patient. what is interesting, they had to go back and find all these contacts. right. the amount of resource that go into finding contacts is significant as well. imagine, five, 10, 12, whatever number of patients in the country. talking hundred of people out there, fighting the contacts as well. right now there is one patient. we have a public health system compared to liberia. some of the images over there. it is exponentially better. there is no comparison what the care is and what people have over here. >> thank you very much. dr. gupta. appreciate it. my next guest wrote a prophetic book on ebola in 1987. robin cook's best selling thriller "outbreak" a fictional version of ebola outbreak in america. dr. robin cook joins us here this evening. robin not only a best-selling author but a doctor.

this current ebola epidemic looks like it came straight out of your medical thriller to be honest. are we going overboard here? >> i don't think we are. i think that something like ebola, this kind of an illness, is probably the scariest thing that we can deal with. that's why i decided to write the book i wrote, "outbreak" when i read of viral hemorrhagic fevers, i was interested. before any one knew anything about it. ebola was the worst of the viral hemorrhagic fevers. and i wrote that book with the idea in mind that this type of thing was going to happen at some point. and so, i am not terribly surprised. and, i don't think we are making too much of it. i think we should have made a lot more about it earlier. off awe i want to talk to you

about something that you said. we have been watching the updates every day from health officials and the cdc. you say the cdc is making every effort to appear they have everything under control in reality they don't. why do you say that? >> because we don't know enough about the virus. we are really in the beginning stages of learning about it. it obviously can mutate. otherwise there wouldn't be so many different strains. we are seeing something now that we have never seen before. and that is that in previous outbreaks it has been restricted to the bush. and here it suddenly is in an urban environment. it is being passed through multiple passages they call it. which gives an opportunity for mutation. can that mutation go in a good way or bad way? it is a very strange illness. when you think about it. usually is self limiting because it is so deadly. when you think about a virus or

something like, another parasite, if you kill your host, you are not going to have a long future. that's what happens so often with this. i think that is one of the reasons the outbreaks have been relatively limited in the pastable. now you suddenly are in are urban environment. i think a wonderful opportunity for someone else to write another medical thriller. because this is scary stuff. >> i want you to listen to the cdc direct irsomethior somethin earlier. >> this is a fluid, epidemic, it is changing quickly and it is going to be a long fight. i will say that in the 30 years i have been working in public health the only thing like this has been aid. we have to work now so that this is not the worlds' next aids. >> you said it is the first time in an urban environment. is this comparison accurate. could ebola become the world's

next aids? it is very different. one of the reasons it is different. it is much more rapidly fatal. aids people could carry it around and they didn't seem to be symptom attic and could spread it. that was very different. now we have symptoms within relatively short period of time, and you have a better idea -- and it is also more deadly, so it is not going to be similar. but in some respects it is similar. in that, here is something that has come out of the bush, in other words, come out of, it was, was in animals. now suddenly it jumped to humans. the real issue here is -- how quickly it can mutate. how that is going to affect the transmission. i know the cdc has been saying that -- that it is, it has the to be direct contact with fluids. but at the same time, they're willing to say it is in saliva. we all know that when you cough

or sneeze, saliva is sprayed out of your mouth. perhaps this virus cannot live very long in the air. i don't know. but i don't think anybody knows. can it suddenly change and become aerosol so that that is another way it can spread. to me that's the biggest danger. >> thank you very much. robin cook. appreciate you joining us here on cnn. when we come back. tough times at 1600 pennsylvaniach anew. even former members of the president's own team are taking pot shots, but not jay carney. i will ask him how he thinks his old boss is doing. tasered by police. what would you do if this happened to you? who is to blame for cases like these? and high school football team season canceled over charges of shocking abuse by players by some parents say they want the team back on the field. they're s and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity.

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president obama is feeling lonely. he has good reason to. republicans are blasting his handling of ebola. his former defense secretary, leon panetta is criticizing him on iraq, syria and isis. democrats running in the mid terms are keeping the president at arm's length. joining me now is a man who knows the president well, jay carney, the former white house press secretary. kevin madden, cnn political commentator, and republican strategist. welcome, gentlemen.

>> jay, tough time to beat president obama. how do you think he is handling it? >> look, there is nothing like the sixth year of a presidency. second term presidency. going through what -- is almost always a bad election cycle which -- which we're likely to see for democrats this fall. at the very best they'll hold on to the senate barely. but give up seats. at the worst they will lose the senate and lose seats in the house. it has always been at least in modern history, a problem for in coming presidents. and, president obama is no exception. i think that there is a tendency to -- to in an election year and in an environment where -- you know there are a series of things often beyond a president's control that aren't going well. that it begins to snowball and you begin to see that reflected in polling numbers. i dent think that, that this is qualitatively different from past presidencies. >> we have a short time. you are used to being behind the

podium. how do you think he is handling it? >> lack, i think he is handling it the way you would want a president to handle it. he is being dlb reliberate. he is dealing, having the united states take the lead in, in providing assistance and dealing with the ebolaout break. handling the political situation best he can. raising money for democrat candidates. going to those states where his visits would be helpful. >> kevin. here is a problem. new cbs poll shows 36% of voters said president obama has a plan for dealing with isis. 56% say he doesn't. he announce aid four-point plan to the country a month ago. why is that perception still out there? i think the reason that is. the four-point plan came after the president took to the podium and the white house as we all rememberen the f ein the press conference. look, we don't have a strategy. in the space of two weeks before he actually really, began to

find his voice, began to sort of build a consensus for a strategy. in the two weeks. his reputation with the american people as being some one who has the a clear understanding of the threat. had a plan to confront the threat. it suffered irreparable damage. i think it is going to be hard for the president to ever really regain that level of trust. he has a clear plan to deal with enormous challenges we are facing. name leap this crisis that we are facing with isis. with the american people. leon panetta, wonder if he suggested president obama "might have lost his way." you can't have former members of the administration speaking out like that. it doesn't help. >> sure it doesn't help. i'm sure the president doesn't appreciate it very much. i think when you have a

situation like isis. and you have, a strategy that you are employing. unless and until it actually works. american people will be skeptical. inevitably will be the case. i would xhegs -- the idea that, his, you know the harm done here is irreparable. i would say at this stage in the clinton presidency. people thought he was so irreparably damaged he might not survive in office and ended as a popular president and continues to be popular. similarly ronald reagan went through a bad year six in office. and recovered. so i've think, president obama can do the same. it is up to him. he will have to deal with the situation that emerges after the mid terms. take the fight to isis. continue to explain the strategy he is pursuing. and then, fulfill, you know, fill out his last two years with a lot of energy and action. >> you have robert gates, and hillary clinton, and leon panetta's book.

former president jimmy carter has jumped on the anti-president obama bandwagon. listen quickly. >> you know for those in the white house. >> both of the secretaries of defense have been very critical of the positive action on the part of the president. sometimes it draws, red lines on the sand. and time zones. doesn't go through. >> how bad is it getting if you have jimmy carter criticizing you? >> one of the big problems, it is more easily dismissed criticism when that criticism may come from a partisan voice. some republican opposition up on capitol hill. that's one of the big challenges the white house has. not only is it just one person, like, leon panetta. it has been a chorus. it has the been the same consistent criticism. the president has been ambivalent. hasn't been forcible enough,

dealing with some of the big challenges on his plate when it comes to national security and foreign policy. >> perception or reality. mid terms are coming up. what does it do to democrats who are really keeping the president at, at arm's length right now. the democratic candidates have to thread the needle carefully. when you have an unpopular president. opponent are running ads. linking him to you. you want to keep your distance. president obama like incumbent presidents are remains popular with his base and base of the democrating party. in some states and some places those candidates have to be careful about going too far in distancing themselves. it is not a good dynamic. their gel has to be to run local, statement races and not have it, have their races be nationalized. if they're nationalized they will be hurt by the overall

perception of president obama right now. it will be a good year for republicans and democrats. the question its, how good? how bad? >> i have to go. appreciate it. up next how did a routine police traffic stop turn so violent a window smashed, a man tasered and a little girl telling me on this program last night she is not okay and she is scared. who was right? who was wrong. we will have the debate when we come right back. financial noise financial noise

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>> who is right, who is wrong? we have seen it happen again and again from ferguson to the shocking caught on camera moment when police in hammond, indiana, smashed a car window and use a taser on the man in the passenger seat. a warrant for the arrest of the tasered man on an old, unrelated marijuana charge. take a look at this video everyone is talking about. you say nobody is going to hurt you. people have been shot by the

police. [ children crying ] >> that was crazy. >> that is really tough to watch. chris cuomo and alyson. >> the kid in the back seat was taping it. it is remarkable. remarkable first how calm relatively the couple was. they were trying to do the right thing. but then it escalated. that moment is hard to watch. >> the problem it escalated. before we talk more i spoke to the family last night. the entire family. let's listen to it. >> he went from the left to the right. lead them in the car when they have their weapons drawn.

i felt to pro tkt tect my famil. >> the police say they were acting erratically. they should have obeyed orders. they had every right to stop them and ask for i dent fi kade. you watched the tape. did you think they were threatening to the officer? >> i don't. i've don't. he was trying to produce id. he said he don't have it. it had been taken. a ticket. he was trying to fish for it in the backpack. that scared the police. he was frying trying to comply. >> should he have gotten out of the car? >> yes. when he didn't get out of the car, that starts to spark the panic that police officers have. and you can debate the word panic. well they're not panicked. police officers no matter where you talk to them. the first thing they say they want out of their shift is to make it home alive. that may sound dramatic. it's not when your job is often entering and hopefully exiting the worst situations. he was supposed to get out of the car. he didn't. this went on for a long time.

everyone we have spoken to, black, white, man, woman, liberal, conservative, they all say, you should comply with, if an officer tells you to do something, you should do it. alyison, you didn't think he was threatening. he should have scum plicomplied. >> the officer pulled a gun. i am not going to get out of the car. you are scaring me. >> what she did was called 911. can we get a sergeant. they couldn't hatch raisve rais more red flags. i understand why they are scared. technically, yes, you must comply with police officers. you can't -- >> everything we have reported on the past few months wouldn't that make you say, oh kay, i should do what the officer says so he doesn't shoot me, he doesn't become violent? >> one of the head of the naacp, he is more likely to do what an officer says, because heap is afraid of what happens if he

doesn't. puts him in fear of his life. a sad point. and basis for action. if you just look at this situation on the basis of the facts you will wind up nowhere. unfortunately that's of my problem with the story. a high crime area. gives police more discretion. >> not sto say it is right. just to break the window. doesn't mean it is right to do it. my heart broke when i listened to the little girl. here she is. >> you are okay? >> i was just doing nothing. no, i'm not okay. i'm very scared. >> you are very scared, why? after they got the -- just got

the window. that's when i got scared. it was so, so scary. >> so she is going to have the scary feeling about law enforcement for the rest of her life. as a 14-year-old -- >> traum tipstipsed -- traumati. can i ask you guys this. i have had interactions with police officers, obviously that did not turn out, they weren't so nice, so kind to me. do you think that would have happened if your families were in the car? >> look, impossible to say. i don't think i have ever been pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. >> i have. >> for real infractions. >> i don't think the cops acted the same way. why? >> because i think they have prejudices, not just people, as a function of the job. just talking to a criminal defense attorneyment no question they do. race is probably third or fourth. they're most biassed around men, especially big men. you know, and, then -- then you know they may have a particular

bias, color is third or fourth wecht don't hear about the stories happening to white people? why not? because the media gives more attention to when it is people of color. i don't know. the kids in the back really also, a bad fact for both side. the father said i wasn't going to get out with the cops with the gun with my kids in the car. or maybe that was the reason to get out of the car. >> exactly. my family is in the car. >> the cops should have been sensitive to kids. >> what to do if you are stopped by police. if you aren a car. turn off the car. turn on the internal light. open the window part way. place your hand on the wheel. upon request, show driver's license, registration and proof of insurance. >> doesn't say get out of the car? i don't know that you are obligated to get out of the car. >> you are if the officer tells you to get out of the car the a lot of case law on this. in higher crime areas, hammond, indiana, a police officer has more discretion to do it. what you have the right to do and what is right to do are different things. we have of a problem with the

culture of policing too many communities. these conversations don't often make it better. this is a productive conversation. people come on. they're holding on to hostilitiehostili. >> is was a standoff. been there 13 minutes. he wasn't getting out. police officers weren't going away. >> the police officers weren't being that aggressive. they were there that long. if this happened in the first minute. i think you would have a clear cut case of excessive force. still probably is >> they could have written a ticket. okay. you win. >> what happens when you don't listen to a cop. >> not saying for society we shouldn't comply. in that situation there was no probable cause. >> the officer who broke the window and tassed them, has been souped three times for excessive force. the other officer, sued for offensive contact. does that tell you anything? bolster what you say? >> for me, a very bad fact. i don't believe in coincidences. oh, we have a highly litigious

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>> alleged hazing scandal is shaking the community. reports that high school freshmen football players were routinely bullied and some claim sexually assaulted by older players in the locker room. football season is now canceled. miguel marques has the story. >> reporter: friday night lights sold in sayerville, new jersey, the football season canceled allegation bees yond shocking. a criminal investigation under way, a school, football team, and town under the microscope. >> you have two problems right

now. you have criminal charges, hypothetical criminal charges and juveniles. >> reporter: an attorney in the middlesex county prosecutor's office. >> if the allegations that are being floated out there now are correct, i would expect not too long in the future you are going to start seeing arrests. >> of kids? >> who ever was involved. >> reporter: accusations have created an environment, pitting parent against parent. with those who support the superintendent's decision to end the football season. afraid to speak out. the allegations from several parents and their children, all refused to appear on camera, upper-classmen allegedly would corner freshmen in the locker roo room. howling the lights out. they would sexually abuse younger classmates. these allegations, possibly more, possibly dating back more than one year. neither the football coach nor any official at sayerville high

school has commented on the specific allegations. it was the superintendent who took the extraordinary decision to cancel the entire season. >> there were incidences of harassment, intimidation that took place on a pervasive level in which the players knew, tolerated, and in general accepted. >> reporter: the sayreville bombers, state champs three of four years the talk of the sports world and not for their achievements on the field. >> hazing in a high school football locker room in sayreville, new jersey. >> a storied football program is canceling the season because of bullying. >> at a packed school board meeting. football player, parents vented. >> i have been seeing more dedication out of my son. and i want him to play the rest of this season. >> players in shock and emotional. >> we are not going to have that closure of finishing our senior

year going out look we wanted to go out. it just got taken from us. for something we didn't know was going on. i don't think -- >> the middlesex county prosecutor will only confirm a criminal investigation is under way. parents describe an atmosphere of uncertainty and fear. from the school hallways to the streets of this working class town. parents on both side considering or have begun hiring lawyers. what would normally be a season of touchdowns and defense, now turned into fear and the possibility of jail time. >> miguel marques joins me now. they're dealing with the scrutiny of this scandal. in sayreville, would it be fair to say you were received by relative hostility from the commune thee? >> i wouldn't say hostility. people are in shock there. they're not sure what to do. there is a lot of concern about what is to come after, as this investigation unfold.

parents worried about their kids being picked up and jailed, arrested, and tried, for something that they think was just, you know, joking around. >> speaking of that. as this investigation continues to move on. how many victims you think? >> the numbers are hard to come by. we understand there may be as many ten currently. this may go back years. so there may be many more dozens to go, dozens if not hundreds of people in order to talk to for investigators. >> thank you for covering that. appreciate it, miguel marques. if the accusations are true what could cause teenage boys to do this to their teammates? we're going to hear from experts next. take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. honey, you did it! baby laughs!

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>> i need to warn you some of the language you may hear, may be offensive, not appropriate for children. if you have children in the room and don't want them to hear this, you need to get them. the new jersey town after allegations of severe, repeated hazing on the high school football team. hazing that some say was sexual in nature. police are investigating the football season is canceled. miguel marques talked about it.

joining me is psychologist susan lifkins, and civil rights toe , attorney gloria allred. you said there is a word for this alleged active sunny. >> it is called sodomy. would you look me to tell you what allegedly happened? >> if you can do it delicately. >> kids turned off all the lights. there was lots of howling, larger kids would pin down the freshman. raise them in the air with a finger into their anus and then withdraw the finger and put it into the mouth of the kids. that's what is a ledge e allege. it is important for the audience to know, sodomy is common in athletic teams throughout the united states not the first case and not the last. >> what is the mentality of boys that would do this to other. they're supposedly otherwise good kids. what happens here? >> right.

they often are. they're even could be honest students. eagle scouts, anything. what it is, a tradition. hazing is a process. a group process. based on a tradition and used to maintain a pecking order or discipline. this is part of the pecking order. and it is probably happened to the older kids. and they are just repeating the tradition and some times they add their own mark. >> again, alleged. we don't know how many boys this is alleged to have happened to. the prosecutor's office is investigating the allegations in this case. hard to believe no adults ever caught wind of this. could the coaching staff and staff at the school be facing charges? >> well, absolutely they could be facing a civil lawsuit, should the parents of any injured victim decide that it is apre aappropriate to bring a case. i notice that when governor christie today condemned it. he didn't mention the responsibility of the school. of the coach. >> gloria, before you continue.

we have the governor. let's listen. we can discuss on the other side. >> if these facts as alleged are true, then this is a nightmare. for the parents of those young men and it tells us something about the attitude that was allowed to pervade in the program. i speak on that not only as the governor, but as the father of four children who play sports and two of them have played sports in high school. >> my question to you is about the staff, you know, how, would they not know about it. he talked about pervasive attitude if this was allowed to go on, gloria. >> that's right. that's what i'm talking about. the attitude is not just the one of the young people, of the students, it's what is the attitude of the adults who were suppose to be supervising? and that is really important. and i represent a young woman who was hazed at the university of connecticut. there the university of

connecticut did the right thing. they did an investigation of the hazing. and then, they decided to ban the sorority and fraternity that they found were responsible for it. that's zero tolerance for hazing. because hazing can be harmful to students. and parents don't send their young people to schools to high schools, or to colleges, to have them harmed, to have them injured. and that is why this school needed to stop the football season. i'm sure they didn't want to hurt players who weren't hazing. but they needed to take responsibility and stop this practice. >> and that lead me to this. even with these allegations, dr. lifkins, some parents are angry about the suspension of the season. how difficult must it have been for the person, that's eventually did blow the whistle to speak out about what is going on? >> that person is brave and should be honored but is probably afraid to come forward. you know, we need to show people that it is important to report

hazing and to stop it because actually they're saving many, many other kids. on that team and many other teams in the school and other schools from being hazed, from being sodomized from being hurt, physically and psychologically. >> gloria, can we continue i want to talk about the attitude you talked about, government nor talked about. the sayreville program, recovering from arrest and resignation of a coach found with 800 milligrams of steroid and 14 syringes pulled over on a traffic stop. the school said that that nothing to do with students. does this tell you anything about the people who may be running the program? >> well that's right. who is watching the store is really the issue. an of course, you know the principal, the coach, everyone they need to take responsibility. because we talk about in loco parenti, you talk about schools acting as parents. when the parents are not there we entrust our young people to the school. and that's why many cases, appropriate cases, they can be

civilly libel. >> the superintendent did the right thing by suspending the season? >> well, i do think that that was the right thing under the circumstances. i do think it also helps to limit the school's legal liability although it doesn't -- erase it. it doesn't eliminate it for what has already occurred. and so, i think, you know, a krcriminal prosecution if the ft support it. that case has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. possible civil cases. possible investigations by the united states department of education. complaints for violation of civil rights. lots of options here for parents and students who may have been injured. >> does it make it seem look for those who are arguing, for the, the season to continue does it make it seem like they're more concerned abut a sport than they are about the safety of students and, these are children, dr. lifkin. >> right. it is true. i think what people need to understand including parents in

the town is that the team knew. everybody knew. you know, this is not a quiet event. they're howell iling. kids who refused to go into the locker room. parent had to wonder why. coaches should have been there wondering why. this is a tradition. i think everybody has to take responsibility. nobody reported it. nobody stopped it. nobody intervened. and probably it has been going on for years, my assumption. and i think that, you know, therefore we have to send a message to that team and other teams, and this is a lesson. a life lesson, parents, teachers, coaches administrators should be using this through out the country as an awareness kind of wake-up call. >> it is a teaching moment. >> gloria. thank you very much. thank you. appreciate it. we'll be right back. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does? it does. you're type e*. and seeking another perspective is what type e*s do. oh, and your next handhold...

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