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possible evidence against jesse matthew in the disappearance of two young women at the university of virginia five years apart. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." ferguson, missouri, bracing for a full weekend of protests and possible unrest. some marches are already under way in the area only hours after a new explosion of anger about police violation and racial tension. the deadly shooting of another african-american teenager is pouring fuel on an already volatile situation triggered by the killing of michael brown two months ago. stand by for my exclusive interview with senator rand paul about his meeting with the naacp leadership and other black leaders in ferguson today. first to jason carroll who's joining us live from ferguson. jason? >> reporter: wolf, more

demonstrations, another controversial shooting, all this as the city prepares for what is to come this weekend. alarming yet familiar scenes in ferguson. street slashes caused by a fatal shooting, another african-american teenager dead at the hands of a white police officer. police used pepper spray on the crowd and in turn protesters smashed the windows of police cars. >> it just shows how the emotions and how quickly this situation can turn. >> reporter: this knife thrown at police. >> we've had dialogue and communication with them. we've asked them to go home and disperse. just as we were doing that, what i describe as a large knife came flying out of the crowd, hit an officer on the shoulder and landed on the ground. >> reporter: a reaction to the second shooting of an african-american teenager by a white officer, the 18-year-old was shot and killed after what police call a physical altercation with an off-duty st.

louis police officer working a security job. police say myers shot three rounds but family members dispute the claim that myers was armed saying he was only carrying a sandwich. >> you're supposed to teach your kid that they can't depend and rely and trust on the police department. but they're gunning down our kids. >> reporter: an autopsy revealed myers was struck by seven or eight bullets. the officer involved has not been named but he was placed on administrative leave. this comes ahead of a weekend of scheduled peaceful resistant events in and around st. louis by supporters of mrikz brown. the first event here outside the office of the st. louis county prosecuting attorney, who's overseeing a grand jury investigation as to whether officer darren wilson wrongfully killed michael brown in the middle of a ferguson street in early august.

critics argue that mccullough cannot be relied upon. again, more protests are planned for this weekend. myers' family, so much like michael brown's family did weeks ago, are calling for peaceful demonstrations. wolf? >> joining us from ferguson, missouri, republican senator rand paul of kentucky. thank you so much for joining us. i know you emerged from a meeting with naacp leaders there in ferguson. it's a pretty tense situation as all of our viewers know. tell us why you decided to go there? >> everywhere i go as i travel across the united states, i try to hear from people in the community and maybe from some in the community that republicans haven't been listening closely now have to. so we met with the naacp. we met with black pastors, white

pastors, basically community leaders. i wanted to find out what we can do to make the situation better, not particularly just about the shooting but what can we do better with criminal justice in our country to lessen some of the tension and anger that i think somehow lurks beneath the surface in a lot of american communities. >> how did the meetings go? >> i think very well. i think that many of the leaders, some in the naacp haven't really thought about talking with a republican in a while. so it's good to begin that conversation. and i'm one who actually agrees with the naacp on a host of criminal justice reforms, whether it means ending mandatory minimums or giving judges more discretion to mete out an appropriate sentence rather than putting people in jail for 10 and 15 years, sometimes life in prison for drug use and drug sale. i'm for getting people back out, getting them in job training and back into the workforce.

i think we have common ground there. >> did you learn anything new there today from what you heard from these leaders? >> i think mostly there's a sense of tension and unease that goes beyond just the shootings. i think the shooting has brought this to the surface. but there's a sense of unease in our country. black unemployment is twice white unemployment and has been for decade after decade. i know this president cares about trying to improve it. but it hasn't gotten better. so, frankly, we had a good discussion about my proposal for economic freedom zones. i have a proposal that would leave $230 million in ferguson over the next ten years. it will leave nearly $1 billion in st. louis. i think by dramatically lowering taxes in a city like ferguson, you'd have more job opportunities, less tension and less of sort of this problem that develops from crime if we had more job availability. and i think we frankly need to think about different ways of

doing this because what we've tried in the past hasn't worked. >> did you get a sense they like what they heard from you? >> i think it's a beginning of the conversation. and i don't want to characterize how everybody else feels about what i said. but i think it was a good opening to the conversation. and i think in the republican party, the biggest mistake we've made in the last several decades is we haven't gone into the african-american community, into the naacp and say, you know what, we are concerned about what's going on in your cities and we have plans. they may be different than the democrats but we do have plans and we do want to help. and i think beginning that conversation, we'll change the country if both parties are competing for votes and both parties are bringing alternative ideas to the cities, then maybe some good will happen. >> well, i guess the question is, senator, why have the republicans failed to do what you're trying to do right now? >> i think they haven't tried

hard enough. there are those of us in the party who are beginning to try harder, trying to bring the conversation to new constituencies. and i think, frankly, for me, it's pretty easy because i believe passionately that the war on drugs has had a racial outcome. i don't think it's intentional. but i think we've locked up thousands and thousands of people of color who would be much more productive if we were giving them job training in prison and getting them back out of prison or maybe never getting them in prison to begin with. >> how have your fellow republicans reacted to your reaching out to the african-american community? because you've been doing this for several months. >> i think mostly positive. when i was at the urban league recently, the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus, was there also. when i went to detroit to help open an office in the center of detroit, reince priebus was there also. the national republican party understands this. and frankly for me it's a little bit easier because libertarian kind of issues that i'm in favor

of are lessening the war on drugs and trying to get people instead of having people in prison for minor offenses, trying to get them back to work. so i think this is something that would resonate in a big way. and i want to be part of trying to let people across the country know that the republican party is interested in people who live in difficult circumstances. >> you also wrote a provocative article in august saying the united states must demilitarize the police. explain what you mean by that. that's something that will certainly resonate with folks there in ferguson and st. louis and elsewhere. >> we have no use for 20-ton mine-resistant ambush protection vehicles in our cities. it leads to inappropriate behavior. in fact, when fema gives out these tanks, they say specifically they're not supposed to use for riot control. they're supposed to be for terrorism. but we have 20-ton tank-like vehicles being given to towns of 3,000.

we have 14 assault weapons being given to a police force of one person. so we have s.w.a.t. teams in atlanta recently that threw a grenade into a baby's crib in a raid looking for drugs. we have no business scaring people at 1:00 in the morning and getting them frightened and sometimes shooting back at people they think are intruders. we need to treat the drug problem in a different way. drugs are a scourge. we need to keep our young people from using them, let young people it's a bad idea to get involved with drugs. but we need not to be filling up our prisons with these kids and breaking down doors at 2:00 in the morning looking for drugs, sometimes in the wrong house. >> we're going to show some video of what happened in the st. louis area last night protesters coming in. it got sort of violent at times and we're bracing for more of that over this weekend. what's your message to the folks there? >> well, the message -- >> go ahead, senator.

>> the message we have and that we discussed this morning was very constructive. my message was get out and register people to vote. and the people i was meeting with, the leaders of the community, absolutely they're in favor of that. violence gets nowhere and it actually sends us backwards. so if that energy and that -- some anger, if that were channeled into registering voters and getting people out to vote, then you can have constructive change in the community. and i think the leaders of the community realize that. and i also want them to know that i'm a republican that believes in more people voting, not less, and that i've introduced legislation to restore voting rights for people who have had previous nonviolent felony convictions. >> if you run for president, senator, you think it's possible you could get some sizable african-american support? >> i think if we don't, we won't ever win again. we're a very diverse country. but if republicans don't go out and compete for african-american vote, don't go out and compete

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we're back now with senator rand paul, republican of kentucky. he's joining us from ferguson, missouri. senator, let's talk about some of the current stories out there in the news right now, very provocative story in "the wall street journal" saying that the white house is considering the president taking executive action to shut down the u.s. detention center at guantanamo bay in cuba without any congressional authorization, in fact, going around congress. what do you make of that? >> i've been a stickler for the constitution. i think that the president has tried to do things that i think frankly are illegal and unconstitutional. congress is really the body that legislates and the president is the one who executes that action. and our founding fathers really wanted that to have checks and balances. they didn't want a king. they didn't want one individual to be doing things on his own. so i'm opposed to that. we've voted on it in congress.

while i think we should charge the people in guantanamo bay and go ahead and give them adjudication and sentence them, i think that shutting it down, you have to have an answer as to what you're going to do with these people. i think bringing them to our country is not the answer. >> so you're in favor of keeping that prison open at guantanamo bay? >> yeah. but i would have prosecuted these people dozens of years ago. it's a huge mistake not to have adjudicated the process and given them if they deserve punishment, given their punishment. i think most of the people who remain in guantanamo bay are a danger to the country. we should have some sort of justice and it can be given finality instead of having them there without any decision making on how long they're going to be there. >> are you with president obama when it comes to his policy of trying to degrade and ultimately destroy isis? >> i think the biggest problem

or where i disagree with the president most strenuously is in arming the syrian rebels. the syrian rebels don't seem to be able to hang onto the arms. most of the arms we've given and the saudis and the qataris have given have wound up in the hands of isis. so i said a year ago that the irony they will have trouble overcoming is that we will someday be fighting the weapons that we sent into the middle east. and i think that irony is now. i think we have to do something about isis. and i agree with military action against isis. but i think it's disappointing that we are now fighting against our own weapons. >> you make a fair point because a lot of the weapons these u.s.-led air strikes are destroying, especially in iraq, isis weapons, are u.s.-made weapons that isis basically took from the iraqi military after the u.s. provided those weapons to iraq. so that's a fair point. the chairman of the house armed services committee, buck mcke n mckeown, says ultimately ground troops will be necessary in iraq in order to find the right

targets. do you agree with the chamber of the house armed services committee? >> from a military point of view, around i'm not a general, but i would agree with the generals who say that in order to ultimately defeat isis, there will need to be boots on the ground. i just think the boots on the ground should be turkish, iraqi, kurdish, saudi, qatari, united arab emirates, jordanians. i don't think that u.s. troops -- if the people who live there are not willing to fight for their country, i can't see having our g.i.s fight for something they're unwilling to fight for. the iraqis need to step up. the ultimate answer to beating isis is the iraqis need to appoint a secretary of defense from the sunni chieftains that helps in the surge. if they were to have an army that were sufficiently sunni and shia and a national iraqi army, i think they would be able to control and push back isis. the bombing alone may not do it. but i do think the bombing has

served to protect our embassy and our consulate. that's why i support it. >> on ebola, do you have confidence in the way the federal government is dealing with this crisis? i ask you also because you're a physician. >> you know, the thing is, is that i understand people in government not wanting to create panic. and i don't want to create panic either. but i think it's also a mistake on the other side of the coin to underplay the risk of this. the administration has been saying over and over again, oh, this is only transmitted through direct bodily fluids. they make you think that this is like aids and not very contagious. and then in the next statement they quietly say, oh, but if you're within three feet of someone, we call that direct contact. i don't think many americans think standing three feet from somebody is direct contact. the question is, can it transmitted by someone coughing on you? >> i think the virus can be

suspended in cough particles. they call that direct contact. but i think most americans would think that's being aerosolaged. i hope nothing bad happens. i hope we'll have only very isolated episodes in the united states. but i also don't think it's that unreasonable to suspend commercial flights -- if you want to visit your son or daughter and you're coming from liberia, couldn't you wait a couple of months? i don't think that that is something of such an immediate necessity that the chance for worldwide contagion, it's not unreasonable. 15 countries have suspended flights. i think a temporary suspension of flights should definitely be considered. >> let's get to a few other issues. i want you to clarify a subject you and i discussed a while ago. u.s. foreign aid, specifically to israel. at the time you told me you didn't support foreign aid to

israel. but since then, you seem to have changed your position. you're getting grief in the political circuit. where do you stand on that? >> interestingly, they keep playing our interview, wolf. we had a great interview. but the interesting thing is i actually still do agree with what i told you. ultimately, i think a country that's $18 trillion in debt should not be borrowing money from china to send it to anyone. so ultimately my goal would be to have no foreign aid. however, i think in the meantime, if we're going to try -- i've tried to put restrictions on foreign aid. i've been unsuccessful. and so i've come to the conclusion that maybe we should start by eliminating foreign aid from countries that burn our flag and hate us. that would be a good place to start. with regard to israel, i agree with netanyahu's position. and that's that ultimately israel is a country that is growing and prosperous and even netanyahu said they could and should be independent. so it's a matter of -- am i

saying it's a different position? no. but as we gradually move forward, we start with enemies of ours and enemies of israel's and's not a good idea or strong idea for our country to be nearly $18 trillion in debt and borrowing money to send it anywhere. >> but in the short term, you would continue aid to israel, is that what you're saying? until they're capable of dealing without aid? is that what you're saying? >> yeah, it's an eventual goal, to eliminate all aid. but we have such a resistance in congress to even attaching any restrictions that my goal since i've been in congress and the bills i've introduced have been to place restrictions on countries that either hate us, burn our flag or persecute christians or other religious minorities. but here's the thing. if you ask the american people, should we send money to a country that imprisons christians or puts christians on death row for interfaith

marriage, should you send any american money to that country, the vast majority of americans agree with me. but in washington, placing any restrictions on foreign aid is still not that popular. >> one final question before i let you go, senator, are you ready -- are you qualified, do you believe you're qualified to be president of the united states? >> i think other people have to make that judgment. but what i would say is that what we need is somebody who has wisdom, somebody who thinks about issues, who isn't entirely beholden to partisanship from one party or the other. and we need somebody who ultimately if they were in charge of our nuclear arsenal would not be rash, reckless or eager for war. and i think i do meet that criteria. >> senator rand paul, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. >> we just got a statement in a little while ago from the white house, from the national security council spokeswoman on that "wall street journal"

report saying that the administration, the white house is drafting options to potentially close the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay in cuba, going around congress. the statement says, we do not know what these new press reports are referring to when they say the administration is drafting options intending to override a congressional command. the administration continues to object to congressional restrictions. the statement says, including in your statement of administration policy on various issues. it winds up by saying, the obama administration will also continue to call on members of both parties to work together to ensure that congress lifts the remaining restrictions and enables the closure of the detention facility at guantanamo bay. that statement from the white house national security council. coming up, the lawyer for an american teenager accused of trying to join isis. i'll ask him to explain his surprising remarks about the terrorist threat. and where is kim jong-un? where is he now?

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there's a growing fear that isis's reach is stretching into the american heartland where it seeks to radicalize young men. authorities say 19-year-old mohammed hamzah khan was one of them. he was arrested at the chicago o'hare international airport on his way allegedly to join the violent terrorist group. khan appeared in court yesterday for the first time. charged with providing material

support to a foreign terrorist organization. his attorney joins us now from chicago. thanks very much for joining us. a few specific questions. law enforcement authorities have told me they're following the money. where did your client get $4,000 for this round-trip flight? >> i'm not exactly sure. i've only represented him for a few days. but he was working. i don't know whether he paid for it or whether the government paid for it. >> when you say the government, which government? >> our government. >> why would the u.s. government pay for him -- >> i don't know either way. >> why would the u.s. government pay for him to fly to turkey? >> i'm not saying that they did. i'm simply saying i don't know the answer. >> what raised alarm bells is that he spent $4,000 for a round-trip ticket on austrian

airlines through vienna. he could have spent $1,000, go round-trip on turkish airlines nonstop from chicago to istanbul. why would he want to stop through vienna? they say that raises alarm bells as well. >> well, i don't think those are sufficient enough alarm bells to be arresting people. but i think it's a silly case. but we're in very dangerous times and everybody's scared. so nothing surprises me right now. >> what about the notebook that they supposedly found in his parents' house over there in a suburb of chicago in which he expressed his support for isis? >> i don't read it the same way as supplying support to isis. there's a lot of talk about his faith and wanting to live in a caliphate under sharia law.

regardless of what he may think, that's not action. and i don't think that constitutes providing material support to a terrorist organization. >> so you acknowledge that isis is a terrorist organization? >> there's no question about that. it's been an officially designated global terrorist organization. >> clarify -- >> and several al qaeda affiliates. >> clarify -- >> there are several al qaeda affiliates. >> outside the courthouse, you made a statement that isis isn't a threat to the united states. explain that. >> well, i stand by that. i was speaking in the definition of threat that political scientists and national security experts speak in, which is an existential threat. that's the type of threat that political scientists talk about when they talk about sufficient threat to be going to war.

i think there's any number of political scientists, including one at the university of chicago, several national security experts that i'm aware of have said they're not an existential threat to the united states. are they bad dudes, as one of the generals in the pentagon was quoted as saying recently? of course they're bad dudes. but there's bad dudes on the west side of chicago, too. >> so you're going to obviously defend your client, which is your job and you're going to do the best you can to get him out. in the meantime, he's being held without bail, right? >> he's being held without bail because we decided to challenge the government's desire to close the courtroom yesterday. the judge agreed with us that it was a pretty severe step. and she didn't want to do it without further briefing. so we agreed to put the case over until the issue could be briefed because i don't think the courtroom should be closed. i think the public should hear

the evidence on this case. i think there's a lot of interesting issues in this case. it's attracted national attention and the courtroom shouldn't be closed. >> thanks very much for joining us. we'll stay in touch with you as this process continues. attorney for mohammed hamzah khan. coming up, as north korea and south korea exchange fire, kim jong-un once again missed a major event. so who's in charge of north korea right now? and the search for hannah graham expands while police officers seize the cab of the suspect, jesse matthew. what did they find? we have details.

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kim jong-un did not show up at a key ceremony commemorating his father and grandfather. the young north korean leader was noticeably absent, marking over a month since the ruler of the secretive country with an arsenal of nuclear weapons has been seen. cnn's brian todd has been tracking the story for all of us. what's the latest? >> wolf, tonight, the anxiety over what's going on inside this regime is heightened. kim jong-un is m.i.a. and his absence from public view resonates all the way to washington. a u.s. intelligence official tells cnn it's concerning that kim jong-un is out of sight. the north korean leader didn't show up at the much-anticipated anniversary of the founding of the ruling workers party. but he did send flowers. >> to skip an event which honors your father and your grandfather is a serious breach of protocol

unless there's some really good reason. i think right now that kim jong-un is suffering under not only a physical disability but a political one as well. >> reporter: is kim's power eroding? is he under tlelt from inside? u.s. officials tell cnn there's no indication kim has been completely sidelined or is in very bad health. but video showing him limping and recent reports of an ankle or leg injury to kim only lead to more questions. why not have him just sitting down behind a desk or behind something to project? >> unless he's suffering a severe injury of some sort, i don't think that there should be some intrinsic reason why they don't present him in some kind of a public mode, even if it can't show him walking and being very, very active. >> reporter: south korean officials say the regime appears to be operating normally and there are no signs of unusual military activity inside north korea, often a signal of upheaval. south korea's defense minister

also says they have reason to believe that kim jong-un is staying at a home near an elite hospital in pyongyang with his wife and his sister. his younger sister is said to be gaining stature inside the regime. most analysts downplay rumors that she's in charge while her brother's absent. but if kim jong-un is keeping her close by, could he and his sister be threatened? >> it may not be so much an issue of her personal security and well-being, so much as it is he's got to have some kind of a reliable channel near him. >> reporter: but adding to the tension, an exchange of gunfire across the border, when south korean activists released these balloons filled with anti-north korean literature, north korean gunners fired at them. south korea responded with its own machine gun rounds. there were no injuries in that incident. but it was the second exchange of fire between the two sides this week after a confrontation at sea. now analysts say the longer kim jong-un's public absence continues, the more worrisome it

is for south korea, japan and the u.s. this is a dangerous regime with nuclear, chemical, biological weapons, long-range missiles. and right now, no one's sure who's running the place. >> and there are nearly 30,000 u.s. troops on that border between south and north korea, along the demilitarized zone. >> so much potential danger. >> brian, thanks very much. just ahead, police seize the taxi cab driven by the suspect jesse matthew as the search for the missing university of virginia student hannah graham expands. we'll bring you the latest. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.

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graham expands, police officers are doubling down on their investigation into the suspect, jesse matthew, and his past. we're just learning they've seized what they believe was his taxi cab he may have been driving five years ago the night another woman went missing in the area. here's cnn's jean casarez. >> jesse matthew grew up in this community, was educated here, he worked here in our community. >> reporter: and he worked as a taxi cab driver in the charlottesville area. in 2005, matthew got a business license to drive a cab as an independent contractor. he continued that for five years until 2010. a source close to the case confirms to cnn that law enforcement recently impounded the taxi matthew was allegedly driving during the time morgan harrington disappeared. harrington went missing from charlottesville in october 2009 after attending a metallica concert on the uva campus.

law enforcement sources confirmed with cnn a dna link between matthew and harrington, whose remains were found months later outside of the city limits. virginia state police appear to be putting the harrington investigation front and center, saying today state police will release new information at a time and in a manner that does not jeopardize the integrity of this ongoing complex criminal investigation. and matthew did work for yellow cab in 2007. locals say matthew was working for access cab, now out of business, the night harrington went missing. >> our understanding is that he was driving a cab the night morgan harrington was abducted. >> reporter: owner marc brown bought yellow cab in 2012 after jesse had left. brown says his cabbies have been cooperating with police and remember jesse well. >> just in talking to a lot of our cab drivers, the one thing that came out is that he was very child-like. >> reporter: during those years,

there was no widespread technology to track a cabby's location. >> all the trips would have been recorded by hand, almost a notebook situation. so it was prone to have mistakes. you could lie obviously. >> reporter: but that lack of technology in 2009 further complicates the investigation whether matthew, the chief suspect in the disappearance of hannah graham, had anything to do with harrington's disappearance five years earlier. those who spent years with matthew here in charlottesville still say it makes no sense. >> the only thing i know is not what y'all have been talking about or hearing on the news at all. >> reporter: and the owner of yellow cab tells me that back in 2009 when morgan harrington went missing that cabbies voluntarily went to law enforcement to answer every question they could and many gave that you are own dna to be eliminated as the one who had abducted morgan harrington.

>> jean, thank you very much. let's big deeper. joining us, tom fuentes, former assistant director of the fbi. and investigative journalist coy barefoot, joining us from charlottesville, virginia. tom, how important is this new information that jesse matthew was working as a cab driver the night that morgan harrington went mising? >> very important, wolf. because it places him that much closer to being able to have been involved to what happened with morgan harrington. we heard about the linkage of forensic evidence, linking the two of them. so it's an important development. >> we know, coy, and you know this better than most because you're investigating there, but the virginia state police interviewed several cab drivers following harrington's disappearance in 2009, but they didn't interview matthew at the time. why not? >> reporter: i don't know specifically why they did not interview him. but we can confirm virginia state police released a statement last night that during the wake of morgan's

disappearance when that investigation began, they did not interview mr. matthew, for some reason. they were interviewing a number of cab drivers in charlottesville at the time, because eyewitnesss said they saw morgan harrington, at about 10:00 that night, october 17, 2009, on the copely road bridge near the university of virginia trying to thumb down a ride. so of course, investigators went to a number of cab drivers working in town and said, did you pick her up? for some reason, and we don't know why, mr. matthew was not interviewed at that time. >> tom, what do police do next? >> continue to analyze the forensic evidence and try to establish a linkage between the disappearance and murder of morgan harrington and matthew. >> as you know that sketch we've been showing our viewers from

2009. i guess they didn't connect the dots. is that what happened? >> i have confirmed that his co-workers at that time, when that sketch came out of the person who was wanted for questioning, the suspect in the abduction and murder of morgan harrington, his co-workers teased jesse matthew and said you look just like this guy. but they never suspected that he could have anything to do with morgan, and they continue, many of them to believe he has nothing to do with the abduction of hannah graham, as well. >> no new news at all in the search for hannah graham, right? >> no reports of anything that's been found. i spent an hour this morning with the state coordinator who is leading the search and rescue effort. he says we are now entering the second phase of this search. it will begin next week.

there will be a standown period early in the week, then they'll begin pointed specific searches of specific areas of curious fit that have been flagged in the search thus far or the result of interviews, the tip line, or these high surveillance images that have been captured by these cameras that are taking pictures throughout the area. those are providing information, as well. >> coy, thank you very much. coy barefoot, tom fuentes, guys, thanks very much. we'll stay on top of this story. coming up, a new ebola scare at a u.s. airport. new details emerge on the threat right here in the united states.

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happening now, ebola scares. are u.s. airlines and cities so distracted by false alarms they'll miss the real thing? iraqi forces against the wall in baghdad. anger and arrest. after two nights of disturbances in st. louis, who will the weekend bring and will the trouble spread to nearby ferguson? plus, police payback? a man was sued after officers broke a window and used stun guns on him could face time in jail. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."

stories, ebola scares across the country are delaying hundreds of travelers and straining the resources of police and hospitals. the new screening procedure starting tomorrow, the delays could get longer. and new details about the infected man who died in dallas. why did the hospital initially send him home with a temperature of 103 degrees? and breaking news in the war on isis. despite bombs and missiles, fighters are making dangerous gains in syria and iraq, as well. using the global resources of cnn, we're bringing correspondents and newsmakers, including a member of the homeland security committee, right here into "the situation room" to bring you the latest. let's begin with the flood of ebola scares and fears that new screening procedures could make travel delays worse. renee marsh is joining us from dulles international airport outside of washington, d.c., one of the airports where some arriving passengers will be

screened and pressed. renee? >> reporter: wolf, in less than 24 hours, flyers should expect tougher new screening measures in new york. and multiple false alarms mid-air. talking about concerns over ebola. one man making a false claim he had the deadly disease, and it triggered this response. >> i think the man that has said this is an idiot. i'll say that straight out. >> reporter: a dramatic scene on a us airways flight to the dominican public. four emergency workers in protective suits board the plane responding to a disruptive passenger, who reportedly said, i have ebola, you're all screwed. the man appears to say, it was just a joke. but he was escorted off the flight, infuriated passengers were stuck on the tarmac for

more than two hours. >> i believe that in today's environment, a court isn't going to find it a funny comment, no more so than a person who says, i have a bomb, only kidding. >> reporter: it's one of many in-flight scares since eric thomas done call was diagnosed with ebola in the united states. just today, a plane was quarantined after a passenger got sick on board in las vegas. and also at newark airport. >> it was quite scary. >> reporter: and a woman on an american eagle flight in midland, texas was checked out after vomiting. none tested positive for ebola. >> it would seem to me that much of what we are worried about right now could have been

eliminated because the protocols were in place. >> reporter: cnn learned that duncan's temperature was 103 degrees when the hospital released him. temperature screening for passengers arriving in the u.s. begins saturday at new york's jfk airport and expands to chicago, atlanta, washington-dulles and newark next week. but two members of congress say more airports must be included. >> i have made a request to the president and to the secretary and the centers for disease control, and i hope that this will be responded to. >> reporter: we saw in that video there with that incident with the man saying he had ebola, clearly the flight crew got in touch with authorities. they made their way on board the plane. a passenger on board that flight tells cnn at no point did the flight crew isolate the man or give anyone around him a mask after he made the claim that he had ebola. that passenger was concerned that they did not do that.

we did reach out to the airline, and they say that they followed cdc guidelines. wolf? >> renee marsh outside of washington, d.c., renee, thank you very much. let's dig deeper right now. joining us republican congressman jason chaffetz. congressman, thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. >> are you satisfied with the measures being put in place here in the united states to prevent the spread of this disease? >> i would like them to go further, i would like to go faster, but they are moving in the right direction. but having these extra screenings we were told in these five airports, it will cover 94% of the people coming from the countries most affected. i also worry about the transfer of knowledge from centers for disease control to the people on the front line, the customs and

border patrol agents. i know they're regularly trained on these types of things, but to know specifically what you're looking for in ebola is very tough. sometimes, as we heard testimony today, the symptoms won't show up for 72 hours. the cdc says you should be tested, then tested later 72 hours. >> so what else neemds to be done in your opinion? >> i think you're going to need to cover more airports and the country should look closely at the fact of just denying people who have been in these most affected areas. maybe deny them entry into the united states for the next 60 days and give them that period of time and say if you've been to one of those countries you're not coming back to the united states of america. the centers for disease control said that would exacerbate the problem. i don't understand why that would be the case. and several of us questioned and wondered why wouldn't you just

actually prohibit them from coming to the united states of america? we've got to be very careful with this. >> this is a serious problem, clearly. let me get your reaction, representative duncan hunter in the house of representatives said earlier there have been ten isis fighters, terrorists that crossed into the united states from mexico. earlier today, he clarified his remarks to cnn's stephanie elam. i want you to listen to this. >> the question is, is the administration parsing language when they say no actual isis fighters, meaning guys with black flags and ak-47s have gotten across the border. what i would say is what you have are people from terrorist countries, state sponsors of terrorism, that have, in fact, gotten across the border and have been caught in mexico by the mexicans, that have gotten caught trying to cross into

texas. and the four men caught from turkey were self-proclaimed pkk members, a terrorist organization. >> i want you to react. first of all, do you believe his initial statement there have been ten isis terrorists who crossed the border into the united states? >> i'm not personally aware of that. what i am aware of is there were four people tied to the pkk, flew to mexico city, came north and got across the border. once across the border, the four split, two and two and were captured. it's some good work from our border patrol folks. but they were headed to new york city. they are tied to the pkk. despite what secretary johnson says, they are tied to a terrorist organization. the state department recognizes the pkk as a terrorist organization. he tries to say these people are fighting isis. clearly not part of isis, but

terrorists nonetheless and he says we're going to deport them. they should be prosecuted. wolf, over the last 351 days, we have caught people coming across the border from more than 150 different countries. it is a very porous border and we have to pay attention to it. >> the pkk, these are kurds. the state department regards the pkk in turkey as a terrorist organization. but the pkk, as you know, they are fighting isis right now, right? >> i tonight buy the idea that just because they're the good terrorists that this is a good thing for the united states of america. why were they going to new york city? keep in mind, there was no specific plot that's been uncovered. i don't want to overstate the problem. i think it's naive to say we don't have a problem on the southern border when these four people tied to a terrorist organization, i call them terrorists, did successfully come across our southern border.

it would be naive to think we don't have a problem there. we had nearly 60,000 kids walk across the border unimpeded. so to suggest a person with isis would never do so would be naive. the border is not secure. >> do you have any reason to believe those four pkk guys who came into the united states were plotting some sort of terrorist operation in the united states? >> there is no specific terrorist plot. i want to be crystal clear. what i'm concerned about is one of themself identified as being associated with the pkk. and that is what is worrisome. for secretary johnson to say nothing happened like that, i just -- i really -- we've got to be very careful with the words we select. but that did happen, and it happened on september 10, a day before the anniversary of our most horrific event. >> he did acknowledge today, the

secretary of homeland security, jeh johnson, at a forum here in washington, that four pkk members did cross into the united states from mexico and that they were apprehended. but the department of homeland security is making it career there's no indication that ten isis terrorists actually crossed the border. that was the original allegation made by duncan hunter. i guess that's the nuance, right? >> i'm not aware of anybody specifically tied to isis. i am aware of people that have crossed the border. these are just the ones we know of, came from syria, from iran. they have come from iraq. these are just the ones we caught. so to duncan hunter's point, we've got to be very careful that the state sponsors of terrorism, we have caught people associated with them. again, not necessarily isis related, but again, from terrorist nations with ties to terrorist organizations like the four pkk, that's the concern.

i'm not trying to be hyper about it, but we have to be vigilant about the threat. >> and the pkk is listed by the state department as a terrorist organization. the department of homeland security, which oversees the secret service, they announced they're creating a new independent review of the secret service. are you satisfied with that? >> no. these are four very accomplished people. but what i would love to see is truly people from the outside that have experience in the military. i think maybe the fbi, specifically people who have wielded a gun before and had to be in that sort of enforcement type mechanism, the private sector. there are a number of things we need to do. we need to look at the leadership, the culture, the training. those are the types of things we need to be looking at in depth. and the committee, the united states congress, we're going to

look closely at what happened in the 2011 shooting at the white house. we're also going to get to the bottom of what happened with the fence jumping incident, as well as in atlanta with the man with a gun next to the president. >> any other incidents that have not been reported? >> yes, absolutely. december of 2013, the inspector general's office put out a report, and they had agents and officers able to check boxes asking them, have they ever personally witnessed or heard of or aware of incidents that were a threat to the president's safety, to national security, the white house, et cetera. over 1,000 times the box was checked to say yes, they've seen or heard this for themselves. so there are other incidents out there. but we've got to -- i've got great confidence in acting director clancy. he has the trust of the president, which is paramount. i think he's the right person temporarily for that job. the new director probably

should, wolf, come from the outside. if you're going to change the systemic problems in the secret service, you need to bring somebody in from the outside. >> very quickly, do you believe the president and first lady, the first family are safe right now? >> i think they're safer now given the highlight over the last couple of weeks. the more i've seen, the more worried i've become. but you've got to pray for those men and women on the front lines protecting the president. never, ever, can anybody get to him, ever. >> representative, thank you very much for joining us. for more on what you can do to help against the fight against ebola, go to cnn.com/impact. coming up, while tv cameras focus on the fighting in syria,

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province. this is just to the west of the capital baghdad. this area really matters because of its proximity to the capital. isis forces are still advancing, despite a number of iraqi forces trying to push them back. u.s. officials saying the iraqi forces are now backed up against a ball, in danger of being cut off. in kobani and northern syria, isis advancing there, as well. in both places, despite enormous amount of american air power. isis militants in the very center of kobani, undeterred by the u.s.-led air campaign, isis fighters are advancing. and now control almost half of the city. even as coalition warplanes unleashed another day of punishing air strikes, making kobani now the second most bombed target in syria or iraq. u.s. officials continue to warn that kobani and many other

cities may still fall. >> there will be situations that are tragic, like kobani. there are other kobanis in syria and iraq. kobani is getting a lot of focus because it's on the border. what we can do is bring to bear our air power with other countries, intelligence, training and equipping these forces. but they have to be the ones on the ground. >> reporter: kobani is very visible but not very important strategically. anbar province to the west of baghdad in iraq is the opposite. largely invisible to outsiders but crucial to the safety of the capital. there iraqi forces are on the defensive. backed up against the walls say one senior defense officials, with some units now in danger of being cut off. and isis said another defense official continues to make gains. with the campaign facing grave early challenges, the u.s.-led coalition today gains a crucial ally. turkey announced it will help

train and equip the modern syrian rebels. an agreement reached with the u.s. after days of very public divisions between the two nato allies. turkey is considering the possibility of deploying ground troops, one crucial piece still missing from the broader campaign against isis. >> i know they talked about ground troops and we're having a conversation with them about what role they can play prodly, including that. >> one problem the u.s. has in that battle for anbar province is not a lot of visibility because there are no u.s. military advisers embedded with the iraqi units fighting isis in anbar. around baghdad, there are u.s. advisers embedded with those units. i'm told what they have found, and there are seven teams of 12 advisers each, i'm told that they believe those units are more capable, so baghdad defensible at this point, but as those isis units get closer and take over more territory, makes

it much easier to launch attacks. >> jim sciutto, thank you. cnn is on the ground getting a look at the battle against isis as the terror group seizes more territory and threatens more lives. let's go straight to arwa damon, she's on the border between syria and turkey with more. what's the latest there, arwa? >> reporter: well, wolf, that battle is certainly intensifying. those who are trying to keep isis from fully taking over kobani, they won't be able to hold out indefinitely. god is great a voice cries out in arabic in this video, obtained by cnn. within seconds, another explosion. both believed to be coalition air strikes. long live the ypg, a man in kurdish shouts. the ypg, the kurdish force, is fighting pitch strength battles against isis. and there is one brigade of free

syrian army alongside it. but none have the equipment or the fighters to sustain this house-to-house battle. despite coalition air power launching against targets inside kobani, almost half of the city is now under isis control. isis is receiving reinforcements from their strong hold of raqqa. and as we witnessed, moving with ease in the open terrain around kobani, ferrying their fighters around on motorcycles. at the border crossing that was the gateway for the flood of refugees, a handful wait. they don't want to be interviewed. there is nothing to say, they tell us. everything is lost. the turkish military won't allow them to cross back into syria, but they can reach the fence and their relatives, camped out on the other side, to drop off bread. this 22-year-old's father is still in syria. like others, he refuses to cross into turkey because authorities

won't let him bring his car with the family possessions. there is still hope, he says. we don't know, but the coalition is striking. so maybe they will be able to go home. but if this video posted by isis is an indication of what potentially awaits them, home may not be what they remember. wolf, there's a lot of anger and frustration amongst the kurdish population on both sides, because even though they are grateful for what the coalition has done so far in terms of those air strikes in an around kobani, they do feel as if they should have been launched before isis was able to gain a foothold into that city. that rhetoric coming from the u.s. administration about how insignificant kobani is. that causes people to question what the u.s. and its allies' true aim is when it comes to what they're trying to accomplish in syria. >> arwa damon, be safe over

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they believe that myers was not armed. >> it's the worst pain ever. should no parent have to put they kid away. kids is supposed to bury they parents. he was my only child. my only baby. he was my baby. and they took him away from me. >> reporter: his mother there i spoke to just a few hours ago. you can see still grieving, still heart broken over what happened.

>> we've been told that the police from st. louis county are going to be in control and handling the protests over the weekend. so the lack of credibility from the police chief in ferguson wouldn't help no matter what they did.

it's going to have to be st. louis county and state police that handle this. >> what are we bracing for, john, in the next 48 hours? >> i hope that things will remain peaceful, that thing also not get out of hand. that people will protest but do it in a way that reflects positivity on the life of michael brown and his family. so we want people to protest and get out and about and make their voices heard and bolster their message. but we want people to be respectful of people's property in the neighborhoods and the communities which they'll be. and hopefully abide by the laws set forth within the communities. >> the michael brown parents released a statement today calling on people to protest "peacefully and lawfully" this weekend saying they understand the powerless frustration felt by people of all walks of life regarding their interactions with law enforcement. this potentially -- i keep asking you this question, john,

because you're there. you know what's going on. how worried should everyone be that outside agitators could come in and create some violence? >> that should be a concern from what we saw early on. wolf, you covered this all the way through. early on what we saw when this first broke, what we were seeing in the heart of ferguson, that should be a concern. but i certainly hope amongst the volunteers, amongst the protesters that have come to town, i hope there's leadership among those groups, on those buses, that can keep that down and convey to the protesters within their groups that this is serious, that we want to make sure that these protests remain positive, remain peaceful and nonviolent. and certainly make sure that no one with any side agendas try to come on and hijack this movement. >> john gaskin, thank you very much for joining us. let's hope it's peaceful, these protests this weekend.

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>> no! >> i'm not the operator of the vehicle. if you do that -- i'm not the operator of the vehicle. >> are you going to open the door? >> why do you say nobody is going to hurt you? people are getting hurt by the police. >> damn! ahhhh! >> that was crazy. [ crying ] >> horrible. this is a horrible thing. >> we see the video. we're joined by dana curts, the lawyer for jamal jones, the man in that car. thank you very much for joining us. i guess a lot of folks are asking why didn't he simply get out of the car when the police asked him to get out? >> ask that question again, wolf, i couldn't hear you. >> why didn't he get out of the car, when the police asked him to roll down the window, why didn't he get out of the car? >> he was afraid. the police, when they initiated the stop, were already

aggressive from the beginning, whic is why joseph, the 14-year-old in the back seat, started videotaping it. >> what was he afraid of? >> he has -- >> tell us what he was afraid of. >> violence from the police, violence from the police, from what they've seen across the nation, as well as the fact that these officers were already adepressive. you hear on that video, and that's only three minutes. joseph's video is 14 minutes. not only jamal but lisa asked for a supervisor to come to the scene, stating they would get out of the car if a supervisor would come to the scene. >> didn't the police call backup, other police officers were there? >> they did call backup. at no point in time did jamal know there was ever a supervisor or did the officers indicate they were getting a supervisor. lisa called 911 twice requesting a supervisor and people were getting shot by the police. >> does the law require -- isn't

the law, and because the police officers say it is the law, that when an officer tells someone to get out of the car, the individual must comply? >> if it is a lawful order to get out of the car, yes. but officers should give citizens a reason as to why they were requesting someone to get out of the car. that was never given in this case. and in fact, jamal had given police in this instance his identification. i think that's something a lot of people are missing here. he gave them his i.d. that was on his ticket. and the police refused and they escalated the situation to what is an excessive force and violation of his constitutional rights. >> what's the most important lesson people should learn from this case involving your client? the police stop your car, apparently they weren't wearing seat belts, that's the reason the car was stopped. the police ask for identification, the

registration. then they ask for some identification from the passenger in the front seat, your client. he apparently was resisting their request to do what they wanted to do, roll down the window and get out of the car. what's the most important lesson you learn from this? >> well, first of all, it was only lisa who was not wearing her seat belt, and she admitted to that. jamal was wearing it. and i think they both did the right thing, they called 911 and requested a supervisor, they requested assistance by police. the same people that are supposed to serve and protect. so who do you call when you're being abused by the police? the only people you can call are the police. and in this case, these officers have had prior instances. really, the issue here is the hamden police department kneads to take action to ensure that its officers are not engaging in this kind of conduct. that's why we're seeing this across the nation, because

higher-ups are not taking action to ensure that messages are sent to their officers that this type of conduct will not be tolerated. >> dana, thank you very much. dana curts is the lawyer for jamal jones, the man in this particular case. she's suing now the police and the city for unruly police behavior. thank you very much for that. just ahead, with just over three weeks until the election, some democrats in tight races are stumbling towards the finishing line. will their mistakes cost their party control in the senate? i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k)

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with just over three weeks until election day, prominent democrats are trying to recover from some rather embarrassing stumbles and races their party must win to keep control of the senate. dana bash is keeping track on what is being done as far as damage control. what is the latest. >> democrats are defending so many competitive seats that they have no room for error, especially unforced errors, especially so close to election day. democrat kay hagen is striking back with this new ad. >> hagen has a 98% voting record on the armed services committee. >> a rapid response from her republican opponent. >> senator kay hagen was ab sent. >> the neck and neck race, reported by greg hairity, that she missed a meeting on threats to the u.s., including isis,

attending a fundraiser instead. >> she put a cocktail hour ahead of where these things were being discussed. >> she acknowledged missing 27 out of 49 armed hearing meets for other business. but many miss for a lot of reasons. but she did attend a key hearing last month asking a critical question. >> do you see radicalized westerners fighting with the isis. >> and her opponent, tom tillis, the speaker of the carolina house, has missed so much to campaign, they have called on him to offered to. still her absence from an isis related briefing is shocking since beheadings makes a big concern. and it speaks to the voter issue

of 2014, washington not doing its job and it is playing out in campaigns all across the country. democrats are using it too. listen to what kentucky democrat alice son lunder gren grimes told me about her opponent mitch mcconnell. >> unlike mitch mcconnell who has been absent from nearly every committee meeting for the past five years. >> she's trying to deal with democrats dragged down by an unpopular president but she got twisted up over a basic question. did she vote for barack obama? >> i was actually a delegate for hillary clinton and i think kentucky knows i'm a democrat through and through. i respect the sanctity of the ballot box and i know the members of this board do as well. >> so you won't answer? >> again, the president on the ballot as much as mcconnell want him to be. >> i was told this is a

disciplined candidate but when that is an issue, that may no longer be the issue. >> our chief political analyst. why was she evasive. it is not a tough question. who did you vote for? >> i think she is an inexperienced candidate. she is clearly trying to stick on the message, as dana points out. but she seemed unable to answer a question. she knew this might get her in trouble. there is an easy way to answer it. if she voted for barack obama, i voted for barack obama. i'm disappointed. bill clinton is more my type of democrat than barack obama is. i was for hillary, whatever you want to say. but answer the question because the public doesn't like to feel that you are not telling them the truth. >> the name of the game, to both parties, in addition to being outside of washington aauthenticity. people crave authenticity and if that kind of answer is what she gives on a question about who did you vote for, that is not

the authenticity they are looking for. >> but the big picture, will it have an impact in kentucky? >> look, no. i mean, mitch mcconnell is a big favorite. clearly this is something he can use. look, he's tough and he is up in the polls. but it is just that, this is where inexperience shows when you are a candidate. >> and from downside from her perspective, grimes, reporters will keep asking her that question and she'll have to answer it all of the time now. >> i'm guessing she's going to have an answer the next time somebody asks the question, but it still doesn't -- the problem is that she is -- i'm trying to figure out a way to say this in a diplomatic way. she is disciplined to a fault. >> she's new. >> from what i saw. i get it. any was running against mitch mcconnell, one of the toughest campaigners, i would be in the bed with covers over my head.

and he is a tough guy and she is a tough woman. she is a tough campaigner. but she is disciplined to the point where she is losing the humanity that voters want. >> we all assumed she voted for barack obama in 2008 or 2012, but what if she voted for john mccain or mitt romney and said i voted for them. >> but that might actually help her in that state. look, you just have to tell the truth when you are a candidate. if somebody asks you a question, i think the problem is she wasn't prepared for this question. you can try and prepare a candidate, go through all of the questions you think they will be asked and then something pops up and it is up to the candidate to be able to think on their feet. >> let's go to north carolina, kay hagen, how much trouble do you think she's in missing the classified hearing to attend a fundraiser. >> the fact they put out and ad already and this became an issue that blew up yesterday and the

day before, it really tells you they want to make sure that they stop any kind of bleeding because of this. and obviously because of where we are on the calendar. we are just a little more than three weeks out from the election. they can't afford any missteps, especially given the fact that this is the race that if any democrat were going to be in real trouble, it was supposed to be north carolina, she's a first-term democrat, north carolina was won by president obama the first time around but he lost the second time around and she is still slightly ahead of the republican. so this is the one they want to keep in. and all of them, but this is one they want to keep. they don't want to rock the boat. >> and you look up how many votes did they miss, what did they do. and so clearly this is something that is being raised in other campaigns against incumbent candidates. why weren't you doing your job. >> gloria, danneth, thank you.

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