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please be sure to join us tomorrow. you can always watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. that's it for me. thank you for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >> next, officials name the first person to contract ebola in the united states. what went wrong? did the hospital provide enough protection for a 26-year-old nurse? and a live demonstration of how easy it is for health care workers to expose themselves to ebola. shockingly easy. and breaking news, kim jong-un has resurfaced after being missing for 40 days. is there proof?
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dmxt stekd person in the united states with wool has been identified. we are learning new detail with the 26-year-old who treated the patient. on friday, nina pham went to the hospital where she works shelf brought her dog with her shelf complained of a temperature spike. she was admitted and placed in an isolation wartd for treatment. today the head of the cdc said the transmission of the virus might have involved a breach of protocol. among the possibilities, that in removing her protective gear which would have included gloves, a gown, she might have come in contact with the virus. the national nurses union was quick to charge the cdc with scape goaltending and the cdc as quickly apologized and they said they didn't mean to imply the nurse was at fault. only the there are calls to transfer her to one. four hospital that has specialized biodecontamination units. and it is shocking that there
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are only four. how should pham doing tonight? >> we have to rethink the way we -- >> a signal from tom friedman after nurse nina pham contracted the deadly ebola virus while caring for thomas eric duncan. >> there was a breach in protocol. that breach in protocol resulted in this infection. >> that was frieden on sunday. monday he seemingly walk that back will. >> some interpreted that as finding fault with the hospital or the health care worker. and i'm sorry if that was the impression given. that was certainly not my intention. >> texas health presbyterian said the 26-year-old nurse was wearing full protective gear. while frieden publicly back tracked on his explanation, privately an official with direct knowledge. vegts tell cnn that cdc detectives believe there are inconsistencies in the type of gear the nurse used and how she put on it and took it off.
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>> i think contaminated, there is the possibility that the worker will contaminate themselves and become infected in that process. >> transmission of the deadly virus is a contribution to assuredness by doctors shortly after duncan was admitted to the hospital. ? our staff was her to ohly train in infection control and procedures. we're perfectly capable of of taking care of this patient with no risk to other people. we have been meeting literally for week in anticipation of such an event. >> he said days before he was admitted, every person who could have contact reviewed this check list send to hospitals across the country by the cdc. >> i will say we were prepared. >> hours after the nurse tested positive for ebola interesting dallas county medical society tweeted this video. >> be certain to tie it around
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both your waist and your neck. >> it demonstrates how medical workers should protect. they. specifically when treating a patient with ebola. and the type of treatment that duncan received may have put pham and other medical workers at greater risk. >> the two areas where we will be looking particularly closely is the performance of kidney dialysis and respiratory intubation. both may spread contaminated materials and are considered high risk procedures. >> as doctors at this hospital treat a colleague for ebola, they are acutely aware. one of their own may be the next to test positive. >> the thinking is straightforward. if this one individual was infected and we don't know how, within the isolation unit, then it is possible that other individuals could have been infected as well.
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>> erin, we've learned from the state board of nursing that pham has been certified since 2010. new tonight, we've learn from the american association of critical care nurses that pham received her critical care nursing certification august 1 of this year. just two months before she started treating thomas eric duncan. >> and obviously she would then have been very new to this. the question is how is she doing? obviously, she noticed that change in temperature very early on. so she would have gotten treatment very quickly. what is her prognosis, do you know? >> well, doctors aren't offering a prognosis but the official status we're hearing is clinically stable. that's all they're saying right now. as you know they keep the details close to the vest. that's all they're saying. >> thank you. reporting live for us from dallas. an investigation is underway to determine just how nina pham contracted the deadly virus. officials say she took precautions while treating thomas eric duncan but something
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went horribly wrong. which is triggering a scare not only at the dallas hospital but also where pham lives. >> the health care worker who lives in your area has tested -- >> nina pham, a 26-year-old critical care nurse at texas presbyterian hospital in dallas. the first person to contract ebola inside the united states. she was one of dozens of health care workers who treated thomas eric duncan. the liberian man who died there from ebola. she was not among those being monitored. tom is a family friend he will spoke to cnn earlier today. >> she is a very devoted catholic. and she always put the other people' interests ahead of her own. >> pham was raised in a vietnamese family in ft. worth shelf graduated from texas christian university with a nursing listen. she recently qualified to work in critical care. friend describe her as come passionate and outgoing. they say she is known for her sense of humor shelf posted this cartoon on her interest account.
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if i collapse at work, here's a list of doctors i don't want to work on me. >> investigators are trying to figure out how she became infected as they work through the night, fuel gaiting her apartment. that's where they found her king charles spaniel, bentley. many in dallas fear her dog might be put down but dallas mayor mike rawlings for now assured everyone that benlly is safe and being cared for in quarantine. and shortly after nina pham contracted the virus, the blame game started. the cdc said it was a nurse in protocol. many nurses are taking issue with that. karen, the nurse in texas, according to dallas presbyterian, was wearing personal protective equipment. recommended by the cdc. i have the exactly what they're supposed to do. it is not very clear, frankly, not very well presented, but the cdc said they were in compliance. face mask, gloves and gown. is this enough? >> no, it's not enough. and i would like to say up front
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that the blame game should never have happened. the issue is when something like this happens, 200 look at the system and look at what protocols were in effect. and if in fact they were good enough for what's going on with this patient. and that no one should be pointing the finger and we have now a young woman who basically was taking care of somebody that was critically ill. and who had a disease that was actually could be deadly. and had step up to take care of that patient. and then turn around and have her blamed that she did something wrong that made her sick. it is the wrong message to give out to any health care professional and i think that we need to be much more careful going forward that we don't do that again. >> the question i have, last week, the union that is in charge of cleaning airplanes threatened to go on strike because they didn't want to risk their lives cleaning airplanes if there was someone who could have ebola on a plane. i guess it raises the question, you see a nurse going to work,
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doing her job and now is at risk of dying because of that. is it fair to ask a nurse to treat an ebola patient, for them to say no? >> we take care of patients with multiple diseases. that's not the issue. what is the issue is what we're actually doing as far as trying to protect those health care workers taking care of those patients. we're not doing enough. there's been recommendations, guidelines. we need a mandated system that gives us the best. we have the best health care in the world. we need to have the best safety issues in the world so we can be assured that we are doing everything we can. we see them at c.dc. that they are wearing hazmat suits and total protection to take care of these patients, to mobilize these patients. we're not doing that in hospitals. and we need to. and then the answer was, when we asked that question. well, you know what? those are not easy suits to get in and out of and people can get contaminated when they take them
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on. then we're not doing enough training. we should have the best equipment available and then we need to focus on great, we got good equipment. now we need to focus on the training. and it is not going to be great, they sent me a memo, they sent me a video. it has to be hands-on traek. drills continuously and that's what we need to be focusing on. then it is not an issue. >> you make the point about the gloves and the suits. i want to talk more about that. when it comes to treating patients with ebola, the first line of defense against infection, the gowns and the gloves. doctor, thank you for being with me. let's talk about this. the point she's making, this line of defense, these gloves, these gowns that they're putting on are not enough. these the gloves we're talking about. cdc doesn't say what you have to use. you could use ones like this, a little thicker, traditional
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vinyl glove or a nylon glove. the guidelines here that i have, that i read from the cdc don't say anything about what kind of glove to use. >> very interesting. i think there are two questions. are the guidelines good enough? even if they are, it is reasonable to raise questions about that. they are vague and not easy to follow. you start with a choice of gloves. they are very good, thick, strexy, they don't cause allergic reactions. if you puncture them, you can see the hole because they're purple. that's ideal. the vinyl on the other hand is the kind of thing you see, they are widely used in hospitals. you he would see someone wearing them if they make a sandwich in a deli. and even getting them on, they're extremely easy to get a hole. in they're quite clunky. hard to move your fingers into. >> that brings us to the latex. >> the problem with these is they cause allergic reactions and they're quite thin. relatively fragile compared to those. but they stick to your skin very
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well and they're easy to do decks trust things in. so there are advantages to the late sxeks i would say the vinyl gloves are really not the best ones. >> not the best but you're saying commonly used. >> commonly available in hospitals. when you're for an ebola patient, you would want one of these. >> so let's look at the latex gloves. let's say you're a nurse and you're treating an ebola patient. the cdc guidelines, let me say them here. the assumption is the outside of your gloves is contaminated. then they tell you how to take them off. why don't you, we'll show on camera what you're supposed to do. first take one off. put it in the other glove. >> the process is to take the glove. you can tear hole in glove very easily. it may be covered in blood. it you get the thumb under there and lift the other glove off and then you can dispose of them.
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the difficulty is it is easy to make place take unless you're trained well. so the lesson is that not that we should not be doing this. but rather first, the guidelines don't tell you what to do when you make a mistake. and secondly, they're vague. >> you just showed me. you did it. you took one off. by the the way, assumption would be that you would have a long sleeve shirt that would be covering you. but theoretically if you're around an ebola patient, you could be in die re, a blue, vomit. you have a naked hand out there. they tell you to do the gloves first. assume it doesn't fling and hit your has not with some of that ebola infected body fluid. then what happens? your hands are naked and you're wearing a gown. how are you supposed troe move it? >> you have a gown, face mask and eye protection. that are potentially contaminated. these are patients that hem ridge, get vomiting and die re. a it is quite easy to spill bodily fluids all over you.
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and then you've got bare hands. the idea is that you work from the back. you take off your gown from the back, in theory that works. unless you have a team drilled in carrying bowls around, there has not been any spray. you haven't brushed against a wall. >> i think it is hard to imagine. who knows what is on you. when you're taking off these gloves. >> the logic in not wearing a hazmat suit. they're very hard to do things in. hard to get lots of people wearing them well. if you ascribe to that logic, it is not a bad logic. you have to say, the cdc should say, how do we train health care workers to do this. how much training and should they look after other patients. >> dallas mayor says they are not going to put down her dog. >> i think that's sensible. they don't know if it should be ice hated?
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>> quarantine the dog. >> observe it. >> but the point is, the ebola virus spreads from animals to people, dogs get ebola. we don't know that it transfers. you would not think it was fair to assume the dog would not be a risk at all. >> no. i think we can test the dog for ebola. it seems -- this lady, her family is going to be very worried. we can quarantine the dog safely. that's what i would do. >> thank you very much. good to see you and thank you for showing, i guess, the frightening reality of this being the last defense. "outfront" next, the cdc over the debate about blocking flights from south africa. plus, more arrests in the st. louis area following protests. a black teen kill by a white police officer. police say he fired first. others say he was unarmed. and breaking news, north korean media says kim jong-un is back in action. where the heck has he been?
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the president did meet with officials earlier today in a statement released by the white house.
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the president wants an expeditious wrap up into how that nurse in texas was infected. that is an obvious sign that official here in the administration are nervous about this. but the president did get one bit of good news today. he made some call today to the u.n. second general and the french president. the president has been calling on other world leaders to step up their efforts to combat the ebola crisis. and they said they're committing to building an ebola treatment central in guinea. it is a start. not as much as they want but it may be the beginning. >> thank you very much. joining me now, dr. sanjay gupta. great to have both of you with us. several african countries have restrict or banned air travel from the zone. he will ritz airways which serves the busiest airport in the world. i'm talking about dubai. they have all stopped flights. why would not the united states do it too? >> well, you know, one of the
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arguments is that what are you really trying to accomplish by doing something like that? what he was talking about was, take a scenario where someone was exposed to ebola in the west african country. knows they've been exposed but is not yet sick. they're in that incubation period. they can get on a plane and travel anywhere in the world. the care may not be available to them where they are in west africa. they want to go somewhere else. so ban flights. like some people are suggesting. what happens next? it is important to think about how that plays out. people may then start to leave the country by than. go to other countries. fly into another country besides the united states and then fly from that country to the united states. i don't want this to southbound complicated. but if there was a travel ban torborg make sure that the medical infrastructure was there in place so people don't feel like they have to leave. >> is this something where you talk about the first emergency
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ebola treatment center opening up. but once you have a few more, once the u.s. troops are in and you do it as quickly as you can. you do shut the borders. you're giving them the help interesting high school human aid. most people look at this and they say if this is a major security threat for the united states, why is it possible for them to come on a plane and get into the united states? >> we don't run those other countries. so a conversation about shutting the borders of other countries is a little bit different than one about how we protect our own borders. the fact of the matter is that thomas duncan didn't come directly from one of those countries. he came to us on a flight from brussels. so when we start talking about banning flights, it does, as dr. gupta just that, it gets a little bit complicated. and i think in public health, clarity is really number one. folks need to know. not just everything we know but they need to know what to do. what we're focused on, we're focused on stopping this ebola where it is.
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which is in west africa. let's get our resources over there. let's get our services over there. let's make sure we're doing the work where the work needs to be done. that should be our focus. >> i want to ask you about the breaking news. i'll give you the limited information. nina pham, the 26-year-old nurse who was infected while caring for thomas eric duncan, they are now saying got a blood transfusion. that she received a blood transfusion today. i don't know if you know anything more about this but for those watching, we don't know if it is from one of the american or from somebody in africa. that would be significant because thomas eric duncan did not get a blood transfusion. how significant do you think this is? >> i would want to know a couple things. also, sometime as you know, with ebola, people can develop bleeding problems. it is a hemorrhagic fever. people can have bleeding. so is this just a blood transfusion to replace blood she may have lost on her own or is it full of antibodies which is
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what i think you're talking about that could potentially help fight infection if doctors in the united states were a match, she would be a candidate for that and i know that's been discussed in the past. possibly getting blood from one of those patients to give to any other patients. >> and doctor, what is your view on this? it is significant, whether it is a basic transfusion to replace lost blood or antibodies. that is the crucial question. it will go to the heart of whenner this blood came from. the reality seem to be, everyone is hoping that she is going to survive this. and the reason she would survive, i would assume, would be because she was taking her temperature twice a day and she wet in. she didn't have the three days send away like eric durngian. >> she did everything right with respect get toing her care immediately and not exposing anyone else as soon as she thought something was going on. now we want to know. what are you supposed to do?
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what is the best treatment protocol? we had someone last week that didn't get a blood transfusion, that didn't get spiritual medicine. now we have other folks. is it going to help us answer a lot of questions? or one that will make us ask more questions? >> that's very true. especially with the concerns and questions for thomas duncan. thank you very much. "outfront" next, police insisting a black teen fired first before being killed by a white police officer. others say and ensis he was unarmed. and reports, the leader of north korea had resurfaced waffle there a coup and a counter coup? (receptionist) gunderman group.
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19 people in st. louis. some of the 19 arrested today tried to push through a police line. they were then detained for disturbing the peace. jason carroll is in st. louis
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tonight. there was a very big name in that 19 today. >> yeah. the noted civil rights activist was one of 42 people arrested today. the arrest happened right out here. when west came here yesterday, he spoke to a crowd saying he came to ferguson with the intend of being arrested, saying, quote, it is a beautiful thing to see people on fire for justice. i actually spoke with west just a few minutes ago before talking to you. and i asked him a little more about that. he said that he would continue to come out here. continue to take part in these protests. and if he said, getting arrested, he said it is a beautiful thing to stand up for justice. so stay tuned for more of that. since we've been out here since thursday, in fact, we've seen a number of protests. some small, some larger. smaller protests taking place at st. louis city hall.
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a police officer there telling us, one person was arrested there. most of the protest that's we've seen throughout the weekend since we've been here, most of them have been peaceful. we've seen some skirmishes with police. it was friday night, thursday night. we saw police cars that were smashed out. some protesters, a small group of them throwing rocks at police officers. trying to be a suppressed as possible in terms of how they're dealing with protesters. but what protester say what they're protesting about is the extreme force that police have been using out here in ferguson and st. louis and they say they're going to continue. erin? >> all right. jason carroll, thank you very much. and pastor willy kilpatrick is the spokesman for the teen killed by an offduty officer wednesday in st. louis. good to see you, sifr.
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i appreciate you taking time. this is important for the family and what they believe happened here. i want to start with sharing the police side of the story and giving you a chance to say what you think happened. so police say he shot first, shot three time. the officer returned fire with 17 shots. police say they found a .9 millimeter gun at the scene. they believe that was vond ric's gun. do you believe that's true. >>? absolutely not. i want to thank you for having me on the show on behalf of the family. we are grateful for this opportunity to talk about their son and what occurred on that terrible day last wednesday. it is very difficult for us to accept the ending of the story when the beginning and the middle of the story is very inconsistent and factually not true of what the police have said about their son.
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what we know is that on several occasions, when the police have talked about this issue, the story has changed each and every time. first, alone come atkins said the young man came out of bushes. and after came out of the bushes, that caused them to have some friction and the fight started there. then chief dodson said on another occasion, the officers saw the kids walking down the street. they looked suspicious. he wanted to make a pedestrian stop. he turn his car back round. came back and when he got out, the kids ran. then he drove through the streets and found them again. after he found them again he was able to chase this young man to the scene, to the gate waive. so it is difficult to keep one the story because each time there is a different story. even on sunday he said that the
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police -- yes? >> i'm sorry. i wanted to, i understand what you're saying. you're pointing out inconsistencies in terms of what they said happened. i wanted to give you a chance to see, we showed our viewers, and i want to show them again. the video of vonderrit when he went in to buy a sandwich. he walks in. he is buying a bottle of water here. and then comes back out. you can see his jeans tucked. some are saying he could have gotten the gun in the ten minutes outer could have been down his pants. do you think this is definitive? >> well, here's the problem with that narrative. the store owner says that they heard the shot six minutes after they left that store. so in that six-minute time, according to police, all of this other action had to take place in a six-minute time frame.
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we need to have this question also asked. why would the police officer approach them in the first place? it is not, there was not a 911 call out. these kids were not in the action of stealing a car, breaking into a home, breaking into a car. there have been no reports from the police that there were any issues. why would they even stop in the first place? and we have not received those answers. >> what do you think is the reason police are lying? i know you believe they're lying. why do you think so? >> well, i believe that there's a culture and particularly in st. louis. we got three families. michael brown's family, the myers family, they have three situations where the police have what i believe is overreach and excessive forceful we need to have questions answered. why are the police using this type of force with these kids?
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it is a fact that these kids should still be alive. it is unnecessary for them to use that type of force when dealing with african-americans. i believe that the policing in the city of st. louis, there is an issue. now we've got three kids. and on the opposite side, black police officers, white police officers, they go through the same training. however, you don't have black police officers shooting white kids. but now at the end of these stories, we have three deaths and no one can tell us that this had to end in death. there could be some other ways of dealing with these issues. and particularly in the myers case. >> all right. pastor kilpatrick, thank you very much for taking time with us tonight. next, kim jong-un is back. he's been missing for 40 days.
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brand new photos that north korean state media claims, emphasis on that word, i'll show you why, to show kim jong-un. these are the first photos we're seeing of him, using a walking stick. he had been limping because he had so much weight gain. the state media story is dated tuesday which is today. their time. keep in mind it does not include the date that kim made the visit or the date of the pictures which will leave conspiracy theorists plenty to talk about. with the enormous weight gain to the political coup. >> reporter: a north korean state run television, the same news announcer declaring the absolute power. the obligatory rocket launch. or, two, the same old variety
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shows. but no new video appearances by kim jong-un who hasn't been seen on state tv in more than 40 days. the leader did finally resurface hours ago according to state run media which did not show any video. this was the longest public absence for the 30 something-year-old dictator who this summer was seen limping and overweight. north korean's ambassador insisted that kim is healthy, no doubt about it. >> no one has seen him for over a month. >> reporter: mixed messages fueling western news reports, continuing to explode with speculation. >> but sir, you're limping. >> what? who said that? >> reporter: as are comedy sketches, finding the mystery irresistible. >> i will you, i broke my ankle while dunking over michael jordan. this is what happened! >> when asked what kind of foot ailments, they said liposuction. >> somewhere he is yelling
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through a barred doorway at armed guards, come on! i brought you rodman! >> reporter: late night fodder but north korean watcher victor cha believes something is brewing. >> this is business not as usual. it is business, very unusual. >> reporter: he points to a number of clues. this surprise visit by north korea's number two and three officials to south korea earlier this month. last week, a fairly rare exchange of gunfire between the two koreas. and in the publicly missing leader, it is a series of unusual events. but there is also this possibility. north korean ever korea knows prop gandalf he is portrayed in the dprk as the all powerful leader, beloved by his people. >> it is so over the top that we mosque it here in the west cox this recent absence be the latest propaganda move? make him disappear so we talk about it? >> it is certainly possible the leader could be sitting on a
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lounge chair somewhere laughing at all of us, spending all this time, wasting all this time talking about where he is. noonl, in north korea, showing up is everything. right? it is all about leadership appearances. >> uneducated guess, the rest of us left guessing about the ever elusive her mit kingdom. the photos that were released today by state media do appear to show and match the script that was released by state media. here's the important part, erin. we don't have a date as to when that visit took place and exactly what occurred there, other than what state media is showing. after all, this is hermit kingdom. >> joining me what do you make of this? it is undated but it is coming from state media. you have him carrying the stick or a cane which we had not seen before. do you think this is real in.
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>> no, i actually don't. the reason is on friday, it was the skinlt anniversary of the founding, the 69th founding of the party. where kim jong-un is supposed to show homage to his father and grandfather. in this society that is very, very important. on monday he shows up walking around some housing? this doesn't really make sense. i think they're keeping him as a figure head. that mean that he can sort of come out in these photos. but that's about it. >> what does that mean then? john stewart with the book of he is behind bars, but i brought you dennis rodman. is someone else running the country then is what you're saying? he is effectively behind bars? >> people talking about a coup. i think we're seeing a long erosion of power that started late last year. everyone said that kim kill his uncle in december. i think really what happened is, kill was not able to prevent the killing of his uncle who was his main supporter. and his uncle was very brutal.
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he took revenue streams away from the military. they got back at him. when they got back at him, kim jong-un lost influence and authority. >> so susan rice says the united states has no indications there has been any transfer of power. >> nothing that is definitive. but common sense says we have seen so many events that are inconsistent with her narrative that he is still in control. so there is a lot going on. it is inconsistent with what she's been saying. >> the mystery continues with those undated pictures. outfront, missiles and suicide bombs showed thatting. meantime, isis is closing in on baghdad airport. creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs.
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nick paton walsh, you witnessed what was basically a mushroom cloud, right? >> reporter: absolutely. a remarkable series of explosions throughout the day, erin. some, yes, it seems, coalition air strikes. centcom saying since sunday they've hit the town of kobani, isis targets there, trucks, locations, seven times. we may have seen two more after they released that statement. but we're hearing from kurdish fighters on the ground that in fact three isis car bombs may have gone off, too. so a series of huge plumes of smoke rocking that city. we also saw, strangely, what seemed to be a column of 50 unarmed mostly men moving from the kurdish side to the isis side in a single-file column. no idea what was going on. but a lot of motion and concern as each day passes the kurds are running out of ammunition. >> the concern we keep hearing about a massacre, how real is
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that? >> reporter: it depends on really how many civilians are trapped inside. most people we talk to say hundreds potentially, that number doesn't seem to be as high as the 10,000 reheard alarmingly from the u.n. back on friday. there are other civilians trapped nearby, but their fate isn't really dependent it seems on what happens in kobani. the question is what are the turkish military going to do? they are so close. they could create a humanitarian corridor for people to get out. we think it's close judging by the air strikes moving towards kurdish positions suggesting that isis is getting down to them. it's up to the turks to get whoever is trapped inside out. >> as we said reporting from the besieged city of kobani. "outfront" next, retracing my roots. ldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis,
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all week here at cnn we're tracing our roots in search of who our ancestors are and where we came from. here's a preview. >> cnn all next week, they travel the world to chase the story, but not just anyone's story, their own. >> it's going to be a journey of surprises. ♪ i can't tell where the journey will end ♪ ♪ but i know where to start >> the story of how they came to be. >> i had a great, great, great-grandfather came over to paraguay in the 1850s.
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>> my grandparents died here. >> the story of their ancestors. >> is where my great-grandmother was give up for adoption. >> my dad's report card going back to 1944. >> his records go back 40 generations. ♪ i didn't know i was loved >> when we find there were people here related to us, that's when it felt real to me. >> now they share those stories to you. >> like going back in time. >> my colonial ancestors were on the wrong side. >> like going home. >> they trace their roots. all next week starting sunday on cnn. all right, i'm going to be sharing my story tomorrow here "outfront." this roots project here at cnn ironically began the week my parents were moving from the farm where i grew up and where they lived for nearly 50 years. we'll show you white chimneys. and how i found out that my family still lives on a remote
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island in scotland. it was fun for all of us. thanks for watching. see you back here. "ac-360" begins now. good evening. welcome to this two-hour live edition of 360 from dallas. we begin with breaking news. another patient in the united states being evaluated for ebola. this one is at the university of kansas hospital which announced less than an hour ago a nan in his 40s has been to the hospital for about 12 hours. he was a medic on a ship off the coast of africa involved in treating patients with various illnesses although it's not known if any of those patients actually had ebola. he was sick while on the ship with fever, diarrhea and vomiting and returned to the united states five days ago. the hospital says he's isolated, being rehydrated. again, we're not sure if he has ebola. but given the part of the world he was working in, that's a concern. tonight we're in dallas looking for