hello and a big welcome to our viewers in the u.s. and all around the world. i'm errol barnett. and i'm rosemary church.

ahead this hour, a second american nurse is diagnosed with ebola just one day after stepping off a commercial flight. next we'll look at how she was ever allowed to board an aircraft. plus, oscar pistorius is back in court right now as lawyers debate his punishment for the shooting death of his model girlfriend. we start with the ebola outbreak. there are growing questions about the ability to control the spread of ebola in the united states with a second texas nurse contracting the virus. >> an official says she was transferred because of staffing concerns at the dallas hospital where she works. the official says nurses in dallas are considering a walk-out. that's how serious things have become in texas. vincent is said to be ill but in stable condition. >> the first nurse to become ill with ebola is in good condition.

it's unclear weather nina pham will be transferred to another hospital. both pham and vinson had extensive contact with thomas duncan, the liberia man who was being treated at the texas hospital before he died. >> what has so many americans freaking out, the day before she went to the hospital with ebola symptoms, she was flying halfway across the country on a commercial jet. rene marsh takes a look at how this could have happened. >> the cdc is contacting all of the passengers who shared flights with 29-year-old amber vinson, the dallas nurse now infected with ebola. vinson took two frontier airlines flights, first from dallas to cleefed to visit her mother and then back to dallas. vinson had a slight fever before boarding a flight monday. cdc director tom frieden says vinson should never have set foot on a plane.

>> she was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to ebola. she should not have traveled on a commercial airline. vinson reported symptoms the day after her october 13th flight to dallas. the cdc says the risk to the other 132 passengers on board is low. >> we are going and will always put in extra margins of safety and therefore, i will be reaching out to all of the passengers and crew of that flight. >> in a statement to cnn, frontier airlines says they responded immediately upon notification from the cdc by removing the aircraft from service. the airline says the plane was cleaned the night it landed and again today. but it is still in use. >> frontier airlines' aircraft has been decontaminated twice, at a remote location on the airport. there will be a scheduled flight to denver using that aircraft.

>> one public health expert says this case is another example of a flawed system. >> what's staggering, we've done so many table top exercises for novel pandemic flus and sars and all of that, yet the first case of ebola, it doesn't work. >> and to avoid a repeat and possibly try and get in front of something like this happening again, an official says the cdc is now considering putting 76 other health care workers from the texas health presbyterian hospital on a no-fly list. and for the second day in a row, u.s. president obama has canceled travel plans to deal with the ebola outbreak. on wednesday he held a cabinet meeting at the white house to discuss a strategy. the message from mr. obama, washington isn't doing enough to protect its citizens from the

virus. here's some of what he said will be done moving forward. >> as a consequence, what we've been doing here today is reviewing exactly what we know about what's happened in dallas and how we're going to make sure that something like this is not repeated, and that we are monitoring, supervising, overseeing in a much more aggressive way exactly what's taking place. >> and what is taking place is a raging epidemic, according to the world health organization, there are now nearly 9,000 cases of ebola and one of the countries hardest hit is sierra leone, as you see by the breakdown there. the disease has killed almost 2,000 people in that country. people there are becoming fed up with their government's response to this ongoing tragedy. [ shouting ] >> the ebola crisis triggers unrest in sierra leone. angry residents of a densely

populated neighborhood in free town demanding authorities do more after the body of a suspected ebola victim was left in the streets for two days. crowds threatened to keep the blockade until action was taken. they say authorities are slow to respond to the 117 emergency hotline and feel a barricade is the only way to get their attention. >> what the youth are now doing, they can block the streets and then at the end of the day, when authorities are moving around, actions can be taken. >> reporter: security forces responded by firing tear gas and shooting rounds from assault rifles to disperse the crowd. >> if there are problem with the 117, it is our place to call the police and explain to the idp or call the medical team to come over. >> reporter: meantime, this

woman, also suspected of having ebola, sits just meters from the body. witnesses say they are fearful the disease will continue to spread if health authorities don't take quicker action. >> because of the late response of the minister of health officials, people are now getting contact with their family members who are suspected cases, who are dead cases, people are getting contact with their family members. because of this, the case is seriously increasing in freetown. >> a red cross team arrived and removed the body. the government was not available for comment on the incident. the world health organization reports more than 4,400 people have died from this ebola outbreak. jim clancy, cnn. well, the spanish nurse's assistant being treated for ebola in spain is said to be doing better, and a family friend says she told her husband she would go right back to caring for ebola patients once

she gets well. let's turn to our al goodman, who is in madrid. al, teresa ramos has become the darling of her nation where people await news on her health. what are authorities there saying about her condition right now, and do they consider her out of danger at this point? >> hi, rosemary, the officials are saying she's stable but serious, it's a good sign she's past the two-week mark. that's a good marker for other ebola patients, that she's still fighting. but we're getting more information really from a family friend who's been in the hospital and tells reporters that teresa ramirez is able to drink water as opposed to to just i.v. liquids. the family friend was in the room of her husband who is in for observation, showing no signs of the ebola virus. but the husband had a conversation with his wife one

floor above. ramirez was on the team that treated another patient, a spanish missionary who was in africa and came here and died. this is how the friend describes that part of the conversation where teresa ramirez says she's willing to go back and work again with ebola patients. let's listen. >> she would do it again, yes, that's what javier told me. javier told me that she's such a fool when she gets out of here, he will do it again. he said, honey, are you going to do it again? she said, do what? >> he said, that, risk your life? she said, yeah, but with the anti-virus, that was the response of teresa. >> he's decided not to tell his wife that their dog was put down last week by authorities on fears that it might also have the ebola virus. he thinks it's not the time to tell her while she's really fighting to recover.

>> al goodman bringing us up to date on the condition of the nurse's assistant. certainly a brave woman there, many thanks. some people watching the conversation of the second nurse from dallas being flown here to atlanta are asking questions about the man seen without a protective suit. take a look at this. we'll show you video from our dallas affiliate ktvt, shows the man in essentially business clothes, next to people in protective suits. he's holding a clip board. at one point he is handed an orange bag from one of the purple people, i should say, in hazmat suits. >> they say they did some investigating, but was not able to determine who that man is. i'm sure it will come out in the coming days, but the cdc told the station they don't see any problem, since the man maintained a safe distance. but of course the problem here is more public perception, isn't

it? we're seeing this and that is a concern for a lot of people, particularly because this man in street clothes, handled the trash bag, the hazmat trash bag. so we'll keep an eye on that story. let's talk business now. stock markets in europe appear to be finding their feet once again on the heels of yet another wild ride on wall street. nina desantos joins us live from london with the numbers next to that fantastically big monitor there. nina, good to see you. here you have deflation fears, flat economic data and even the slowing european economy factors pulling down u.s. markets. i'm wondering if that lack of confidence here is spilling over to where you are. >> it's all about confidence, isn't it, errol? and it's about the fact that the world is increasingly interconnected. so when you see markets in the united states fall sharply, of course that affects the world. you can see all of the marks

down. the s&p 500 at one point sank during the session as much as 3% before rebounding, but still closing down 8/10 of 1%. remember, these markets have been hitting record highs for a number of months before the market route started in september. that brings me to the asian markets. as you can see, taking their cues from things in the united states. sinking below the 15,000 mark for the first time in quite a long time. closing the day around 2.22 of 1%. markets here in europe have just started trading, so these are early numbers. as you can see, the ftse 100 and the dax rebounding nicely, but it was a terrible day yesterday, amid fears of the ebola virus moving out of africa and affecting the travel industry

after news of a second case in the united states with the second health care worker yesterday. lingering fears about the state of the german economy. i'm just going to tell you roughly how much some of these markets lost. the european markets lost about $250 billion in yesterday's session alone. that to put it in context is the same size as the annual gdp of a country like portugal, but starting off on a better note today. >> nina desantos breaking down all of the market updates. neen a good to see you, thanks. >> we'll take a short break now, but just ahead, more violence amid the pro-democracy protests in hong kong. the head of the government calls for negotiations. plus, it's been six months since boko haram kidnapped 200 nigerian schoolgirls. uk leaders are calling for action. one of them will speak to us live from london.

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just minutes ago, hong kong chief executive addressed the turmoil in the city, calling for talks with student protesters, possibly as soon as next week. listen. >> as long as the students or other sections of hong kong are prepared to focus on this issue, yes, we are ready, we are prepared to start a dialogue and maintain that dialogue. this is why over the last few

days, including this morning, through third-parties, we expressed a wish to the students that we'd like to start a dialogue, to discuss universal suffrage. >> it's worth noting, his tone seemed more conciliatory than what we heard over the weekend, when he said protesters had almost zero chance of their demands being met. those demands are open elections and his resignation. >> now, the remarks come hours after police and demonstrators got into a scuffle for the second straight days. nearly three weeks protesters have shut down key parts of hong kong. their rallies were beginning to taper off, but gained momentum wednesday after this video emerged. it appears to show police beating an activist. this went viral. hong kong's chief executive urged both sides not to politicize the investigation. the plain-clothes officers who

were allegedly involved have reportedly been suspended. >> the alleged victim is vowing to take legal action against police. he showed his wounds to the media on wednesday, saying he was brutally assaulted by officers while entirely defenseless. let's get you the latest information now on the battle against isis. the pentagon says several hundred isis fighters have been killed by coalition air strikes in and around the city of kobani in syria. but even as the air strikes intensify, more fighters are streaming in. the pentagon admits the city may still fall, but insists progress is being made. >> there are areas where we are having success, we have successful made it harder for isil to sustain itself and to operate. they are continuing to feel the pressure, which is one of the

reasons why we think they're going after kobani so badly. part of it is, they really want a win, because they're not getting a win everywhere. >> now, one kurdish fighter defending kobani tells cnn there were 18 coalition air strikes on wednesday. the pentagon says bad weather has put air strikes in iraq on hold for now, and that's freed up warplanes for more strikes in syria. >> well, the threat from terrorist groups such as isis in the middle east, and boko haram in nigeria has prompted several british lawmakers and officials to write an open letter to the u.n. it calls for an international inquiry into boko haram's impact, and those who finance it. the letter comes as the world marks six months since more than 200 schoolgirls were kidnapped by boko haram, and those girls have not been home since. admiral lord alan west is among

those who wrote and signed that letter and joins us live from london. >> good morning. >> how likely is it the u.n. will respond to your call for military assistance, training and coordinated strategy? what are your expectations in reality? >> i hope they will, because what we're seeing is the formation of a group here that's becoming like isil itself. and the head of boko haram is in discussions with isil, and boko haram is starting to occupy ground and talk an islamic state. we were very slow, the western powers, in realizing that isil was growing the way it was. we need to nip it in the bud. they captured, 276 young women students, they treat them as all extreme islamists do, as chattels, sex slaves. they've been sold into marriage. some have escaped, but very few of them. it's an indication of exactly

how they treat women. and it's becoming really, really dangerous. and i'm afraid there are local politicians and businessmen, because of the elections next year, who are actively involved in helping and supporting them, without realizing they're suping with the devil. this is similar too, i'm afraid, the saudi arabian government and the qatari government helping isis and not realizing they were suping with the devil. now they have realized and it's almost too late. we have to do something. the international community, it's better intelligence, doing a really investigation into this. because in west africa, we have a perfect storm developing. we have ebola, boko haram, which is not just nigeria, but chad, mali, al qaeda and nag reb. in the south of nigeria, piracy raising 85%. this is a dangerous region which is beginning to go completely

wrong and we do need to do something about it. >> particularly as you mentioned in that letter, the relationship finish boko haram and isis now is of grave concern. but what should be done to try to get the more than 200 teenage girls who were kidnapped by boko haram six months ago back with their families? >> it is a dreadful and loathsome thing. 219 of them are still in captivity, many are being used as wives, as prostitutes, effectively. and boko haram like isil, do not believe women should be educated. if you want to keep women as chattels, you make sure they're not educated. we have to try to do something. if you have local politicians and therefore some police probably, and maybe little bits of the army in nigeria involved in supporting boko haram, it's very difficult to do anything. that's why we need a full investigation, better intelligence. we need to get the commonwealth

involved, as well as the u.n. and we need to drill down in these areas and stop this non-sense going on. because it's very distressing. six months ago, these poor women went missing and it's a dreadful indictment, i think -- well, certainly of their society, but of us that we're not able to do something about it. >> admiral, thanks so much for joining us. we'll see how the u.n. responds, most certainly. >> thank you. still to come here on cnn, oscar pistorius has just arrived in court. we'll have a live report in south africa as the fourth day of his sentencing gets under way.

welcome back, everyone. oscar pistorius has just arrived at court in pretoria, south africa, day four of his sentencing hearing is about to get under way in moments. yesterday the court heard from a cousin of the victim, reeva steenkamp. she said the model's death has ruined her family. diana magnay joins us live, she's outside the courthouse in pretoria. good to see you. what did we learn yesterday? what new information emerged? >> hi, errol. well, it was the first time really that reeva became center stage of the proceeding. for at the duration of the trial

it's as if she's been a side figure. and now with the testimony of the cousin kim, we got a very real sense of the person that she was, very devoted to her family. i'm going to bring in our legal analyst, kelly phelps. how do you feel the come from kim will bolster the state's argument? >> the state's job is to put forward aggravating factors. this is a recognized aggravating factor, which is the harm caused in the wake of the offense. and obviously hearing from one of the family members themselves in their own words is a particularly emotional and evokative way to really adequately convey to the court the extent of the damage that's been left in the wake of this tragedy. >> and another message that she really did convey was how hard up the steenkamp parents were and have been and how hard-working they are, how hard-working reeva was too, and supportive of them. did you get the sense that the

prosecutor had, in a way, made sure that that message came across? >> i think that was potentially more socially relevant than legally relevant. it's arguably an attempt to put into context some of the discourse that's occurred in the public since the revelation that mr. pistorius has been paying the family a sum of money. and it's essentially giving the family an opportunity to put their side across and convey the imperatives they were under, from their perspective. >> and very emotional all of that. it was the first time we saw june steve camenkamp, first tim saw her breakdown at one moment. >> it's surprising, they spent so long cross-examining the defense witnesses on pedantic points, knowing that he had this witness coming on to the stand

because what could possibly be more powerful, and leave more an impression in the mind of the court in testimony that we heard yesterday and will continue to hear this morning. >> let's go back to some of the cross-examination that nel has been doing. i mean, the probation officer who recommended three years correctional services, which many people think is far too lenient and some say shockingly inappropriate. she was trying to distinguish between the letter of the law, and what happens in reality. >> he certainly was very focused on conveying to the court just how progressive the legislation in south africa is, that tells the prison services should be treating offenders. and the witness was at pains to point out that, hang on a second, there's a difference between a legislative framework and how that legislation is implemented. that's where the problem is in

south african prisons. most people who work in the prison system, probation services, would acknowledge that there is a gap in implementation. that there are massive problems plaguing the prison systems, even with some of the advancements we've had in recent years. >> nel's argument was to counter what she had said, that if his prosthetics were taken away from him, he would be incredibly vulnerable, he would slip on the floor, and could be prey to sexual violence from other inmates. >> what was particularly interesting about that, was that he used another case that's recently got a lot of publicity in south africa called the dujuany case. in that case, an extradition hearing had to go through the british courts, and one of the things argued was the condition in south african prisons. he tried to suggest that the british court said there's no

problem. in fact, what they said, if he were given special treatment, there would be no problem. and we haven't had that undertaking with pistorius yesterday. >> and we are about to go direct to the courtroom now, errol, where today's proceedings are under way. back to you. >> all right, stand by, guys, we'll get back to south africa shortly. as we mentioned, court is expected to begin in a few minutes. we'll take a quick break and get you back to the latest developments out of pretoria after this, stay with us. a day at the spa is essential for rejuvenating your spirit. you owe me this cause i clean your tushy. but i'll settle for a toddler yogurt facial any day. all done, mommy. hey, love that yogurt. it's good stuff. you uh, you got a little something... hmm, it happens. yogurt is number 14 of my 20. the amex everyday credit card with no annual fee. still good. make 20 or more purchases in a monthly billing period, and earn 20% more rewards. it's membership that rewards you for the things you already buy, everyday.

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officials are considering adding 76 health workers to the country's no-fly list after a second nurse in the u.s. contracted ebola. she took a commercial flight a day before her diagnosis. she was transferred to atlanta for treatment at emory university hospital. the pentagon says coalition air strikes in and around kobani have killed hundreds of isis fighters, but more are streaming in, even as the air campaign intensifies. the pentagon says progress is being made, but admits the city may fall to isis. >> day four of oscar pistorius' sentencing hearing is about to begin. he was found guilty last month of culpable homicide. the judge announced she won't be available next week, which means we could learn his sentence very soon. >> let's go there now. >> two things that won't be easy, but we have to deal with it.

now the first issue, i want to ask you for your view, and you were in court when the accused made a public apology. >> unfortunately, my lady, i did not feel that the apology was genuine. i remember crying and it made me realize that -- it brought back to reality why we were here and that was because reeva was dead. unfr unfortunately, it did not seem sincere. >> the last issue, madam, we're dealing with sentence now. yesterday you testified about the first time you met the accused and how you felt about the accused. how do you feel about the accused now, and what are your views on sentencing?

>> i'm very fearful of the accused. i have tried very hard to put him out of my mind. we've even made a point of not mentioning his name in our house, because i didn't want to spend any energy thinking about him. i -- this is not hard -- this is not easy for me.

my lady, i really believe the accused, mr. pistorius, needs to pay for what he's done. my family are not people who are seeking revenge. we just feel that to take someone's life, to shoot somebody behind a door, that is unarmed, that is harmless, needs sufficient punishment. i was very worried when i was under the belief that prison conditions would be bad for him. when i discovered that his rehabilitation process in prison would actually be humane, and keeping with the dignity of a human being, i can say honestly to the court that i feel that mr. pistorius needs to pay for

what he's done, for taking reeva's life, for what he's done to my uncle and to my aunt, what he's done to the rest of my family, but also what he's done to his family. everybody has suffered here, and i think we need to give a message to society that you cannot do this and get away with it. i don't feel the suggested punishment would fit the crime. i think we would be enabling him to carry on doing this and to feel within himself that it's okay, that what he's done is all right. and i don't think so. i honestly feel it's not. >> thank you. i have nothing further for this witness.

>> just two aspects that i want to raise with you. the one is that you say that miss steenkamp spent christmas alone. would you accept that she had dinner with the accused? >> christmas? >> christmas, yes. i can give you the details of the place and so on. >> what year was this? >> 2012. >> if you could do that, i was under the impression she spent new year's alone. i'm not sure about christmas. but i said new year's she spent alone. >> they spent christmas dinner together and five days in cape town from the 2nd of january until the 7th of january. are you aware that mr. pistorius, afterthought incident very shortly wrote comprehensive letters to the parents, but on advice -- and that advice was

accepted -- it was decided that he would not hand them over, for many reasons that we accepted. are you aware of that? >> not at all, my lady. >> we sincerely apologize for the emotional issues. >> not at all, my lady. >> you have not spoken to him? >> i have not spoken to the accused? >> yeah. >> no, my lady. >> you have not had the opportunity to share his insight, to understand how he feels? you didn't speak to him. >> no, my lady. >> you also accept for purposes of your answer, that the conditions in the jail are humane and would provide -- >> i understand that. >> and if it does not? >> i think for anybody, i would not want that.

i would not want that for anybody. >> thank you, my lady. >> just one thing. i was reminded. >> yes. >> in any event that if the family would consider to be appropriate at whatever time and date, that the accused would desperately want to privately apologize. that's all i can put to you. >> thank you. >> thank you, madam. >> thank you very much for your assistance. you may be excused. >> thank you, my lady. >> call mr. modisi.

>> the witness may be sworn in. >> my name is molek moleko zacharia isaak modisi. >> do you have any objection? >> no, my lady. [ inaudible ] >> i swear. >> you are going to testify in english? >> that's correct, my lady. >> thank you very much.

you may be seated if you so wish. >> the court indicated that if you feel more comfortable to sit down, you're welcome to. if you feel more comfortable to stand, you're also welcome to. >> thank you. it mr. modisi, you're the acting national commissioner for correctional services? is that correct? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and there are incidents, as part of your duties, yesterday you were in parliament? >> that's correct. >> and in parliament, you presented the annual report for correctional services, am i correct? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and parliament is the oversight body that wanted you to report on certain issues that they brought up? >> that is correct. >> also a mere coincidence, this

matter was mentioned in parliament yesterday. >> that is correct, my lady. >> you were asked a question that we will ask you today, and that is, if you could cater for disabled people within your facilities? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and to parliament, you said what? >> i said to parliament, my lady, that the department of correctional services is ready to admit and detain people with disabilities in our facilities. >> let us deal with your experience within the department, sir. how many years of experience have you had in the department? >> my lady, i have 35 years' experience in the department. >> and this long period started in -- >> that is correct, my lady.

>> you did your basic training, and you were then assigned to luke ob facility? >> that's correct. >> and from luke ob, you became involved in training of recruits, am i correct? >> that is correct, my lady. >> and your speciality in training areas? >> my lady, i trained officials in three areas. it was to -- also to do and understand administration, and also to do -- [ indiscernible ] >> from there, you spent time at another facility? >> that's correct, my lady.

>> from there, you went back home where you spent about nine years, am i correct? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and then from there, sir, would you just run with your career? >> my lady, i was in transferred to a correctional center in the northern cape in 1993. and then beginning of 1994, i was transferred to king valley correctional center. in 1996, my lady -- >> your position in kimberly, sir? >> in kimberly, my lady, i was responsible for internal and external custody. i was then later transferred to the national office as an inspector of prisons. therefore, i went back to kimberly and in 1997, i was promoted to the position of

director as the provisional commissioner of correctional services in the northern cape. >> my lady, i was later transferred and promoted as the original commissioner of the eastern cape and was based in port elizabeth. >> there was the inhumane treatment of offenders and also the appointment of staff that was done on family members. i was then deployed to come and remedy the situation in houting and then start said as the original commissioner of houting. >> that whole investigation became known as the jolly commission? >> that's correct, my lady. during that time, there was

rampant corruption in the department, relating to appointment of officials, nepotism, but also the manner in which offenders were treated by officials, that led to inhumane incarceration. >> all right, we appear to have lost the signal momentarily there from the courthouse in pretoria, south africa, as the prosecutor continued his cross-examination of the victim's cousin. i think we have the connection back now. let's listen in once again. >> my lady, as i've indicated, there was rampant corruption, and i had to put measures in place that we arrest the

corruption, in terms of employee relations -- [ inaudible ] -- but also the humane incarceration of offenders in accordance, but also important was to ensure -- [ inaudible ] >> you were then transferred in 2003, i think, to -- >> that's correct, my lady. >> where you dealt with another problem? >> my lady, i'm sure it is common knowledge to south africans that that was one of the areas where this rampant corruption was, where the human rights of offenders was not respected, and as such, i was sent there again to go and put measures in place to ensure that

there is compliance to legislation, but also importantly, compliance to the human rights of offenders. >> and then sir, after that, you came to pretoria to the head office? >> my lady, that's correct. i was then brought to come and head the branch corrections at the level of deputy director-general. >> from there, sir? >> my lady, after houting, i was there brought to -- i mean, after that office, i was brought again to houting in 2012, to continue with my work of managing and leading the houting region. [ inaudible ] -- i'm sorry. i was brought again to houting

in 2012 to continue with my work of managing and leading the houting region. and then on the 13th of june 2014, that is this year, my lady, the minister of justice and correctional services then appointed me to act as the national commissioner of correctional services. >> a position that you're still holding? >> that is the position that i'm currently holding, my lady. >> sir, when the department heart of the evidence that was given in court by the probation officer. the department felt -- well, the department volunteered to give evidence and to explain to the court that what the conditions

in prison -- what the conditions are and that we can cater for disabled people, is that correct? >> that is correct, my lady. >> sir, you were still in parliament yesterday, and you flew back overnight? >> that's correct. >> for purposes of your evidence, we prepared a very short document with bullet points that would just assist us through the evidence, is that correct? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and you have that in front of you. i beg just to hand that up for that purpose, my lady. that must be gggg. i just -- >> i think it's ffff. >> the prestatement was ffff. >> oh, yes, you're right.

thank you. >> sir, if we follow this just as a guideline to lead your evidence and we start at paragraph two, we run and manage the correctional facilities in our country in terms of which act? >> my lady, the act that we are managing in correctional services is the act of 1998. >> which came into operation when, sir? >> on the 1st of october 2014. >> can you please inform the court the purpose of the correctional system? >> the purpose is to contribute to maintaining and protecting a just, peaceful and safe society, by firstly enforcing sentencing of the court, detaining all

inmates in safety custody, whilst ensurg the human dignity, and also promoting the social responsibility and human development of all sentenced offenders. >> now, in 2005, the department adapted a white paper on corrections. could you just inform the court what that was all about. >> my lady, as we were implementing in 1998, we were still using the old white paper. it was then imperative that we develop a white paper that would enhance the implementation the act of 1998. that's why in 2005, after broad consultati consultation, the department submitted to parliament a white paper that is called a white paper on corrections 2005, that

would enhance the act of 1998, but importantly, it indicate a departure from the old correctional prison system, to a system of corrections in the republic of south africa. >> whilst we're there, since you joined the department 35 years ago, up until today, there's been lots of development in that particular department, am i correct? >> absolutely, my lady. >> and in 2005, that was a huge step in further enhancing this department? >> quite correct, my lady. >> now, sir, at paragraph six, we deal with admissions, and could you just explain to the court what the powers of the national commissioner is in terms of the provision of section 6-1-b. >> my ladies, in terms of the

section, the commissioner can detain any offender at any correctional facility in the country, depending on the individual needs of that particular offender. >> so there will be facilities in the country that would be able to deal for every kind of need for every individual? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and you have the power to place a person there? >> that's correct, my lady. >> now, to make it possible for you to make an informed decision, in section 6-5-b, there's a health status examination, is that correct? >> that's right, my lady. >> and that information you will use with recommendations from various people to understand where best a specific inmate should be placed?

>> that's correct, my lady. >> now, our facilities have what we call health facilities, is that correct? >> that's correct, my lady. >> i think in a normal day-to-day talk, we refer to it as a hospital section? >> that's right, my lady. >> now, is it possible to keep a specific inmate for his term of imprisonment, or portions thereof, at such a facility? >> that's correct, my lady. >> and you've been listening and watching day four of oscar pistorius's sentencing hearing. earlier we heard from reeva steenkamp's cousin, kim martin, testifying against pistorius, she said he needs to pay for what he did.

>> now we're listening to the commissioner of correctional services try to balance out what other witnesses said, that pistorius's physical condition would be a risk if he went to prison. the judge has to make a decision there at some point. >> thanks for being with us. i'm rosemary church. >> i'm errol barnett. do stay with us. >> if you're watching in the united states, "early start" begins after this break. q.

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