good evening, again from dallas tonight. where just moments ago nurse nina pham left the facility for a facility in bethesda, maryland. the hospital released video of her before she left the hospital. they just put this video out on youtube. we are seeing it for the first time. some of it i believe is sub titles. let's take a look. >> thanks for being part of the volunteer team here to take care of our first patient. this is a huge effort by all of you guys. we're really proud of you.

hi. don't cry, don't cry. >> well, happy tears, otherwise, no tears. oka okay? >> there is no crying. >> i love you guys. >> we love you. >> that is apparently her md actually visiting her just before she left. obviously, shot from his perspective. he is in full protective gear and you can see that nurse, as well, i believe what is a nurse, as well in full protective gear, a much different account, much different gear than nurses are wearing earlier as the whistle-blower nurse has described and will describe more in this hour of "ac360."

just moments ago, nina pham stepped out of an ambulance at love field, walking with assistance. boarding a plane to a special facility at the national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland. federal officials at nih say they have the better training to treat her symptoms and the biohazard that is presented. clearly, the texas presbyterian is lacking in that regard. and you will hear from a nurse from there who lays it out in graphic detail. >> i'm so tired of hearing their explanations that don't mean anything to anyone. i'm tired of them blaming the nurses for being sick. i'm tired of it. i'm tired of it and i'm not taking it. those nurses are heroes. and i refuse to continue to hear them you know, in any other light. and i'm not going to. >> in a moment, we'll have more on my conversation with nurse briana aguirre. there is other breaking news

tonight, where nurse amber vinson, we say may have, already been showing symptoms when she boarded the flight from dallas to ohio, that is three day before systemmatic. and the question is, if that was true, why did she fly? all of that is being investigated. on monday, when she went home and phoned into the cdc, she phoned in with a fever of 99.5, and said she had been treating a patient with ebola. why did the person say it was okay for her to get on the plane? president obama talked about that and more. we have elizabeth cohen here, let's talk about the news that amber vinson may have been symptomatic when she first got on that flight. where is that information coming from? >> that is coming from a federal official. we're hearing she did have

symptoms while in cleveland, that she felt muscle aches, fatigue, not feeling well. and that she felt while she was in cleveland and on the flight home from cleveland to dallas, and she did not tell the cdc. >> is it known that if she had a fever earlier than that day that she was flying home -- >> no, not the fever part of it. i don't know that we know that. but even without the fever someone who has been treating someone with ebola who is known to have personal protective equipment that didn't appear to be up to par. if they had known she had muscle aches, the fatigue, the malaise, they would not have let her get on the plane. >> do we know anything about her condition now? >> we see how well nina pham is doing, she by all accounts caught it very, very quickly. if this amber vinson was feeling it for days before she got help it decreases the chances she has a good outcome. we pray she does.

getting help quickly is so important. >> and nina pham has received plasma from dr. kent brantly, that helps to fight the ebola virus. >> he and nancy writebol are the only possible donors. >> her blood is a rare type. >> and we don't know amber vinson's blood type or kent brantly's either. we hope there is a match there because the world health organization says there is hope for blood transfusions. >> and anybody who has tested positive for this ebola at this hospital anymore, what happens now at this hospital? clearly this will give them some space to try to regroup. because clearly they too need to regroup. >> they do need to regroup. they said since nina pham is going, they can prepare for what is coming next. and it makes you wonder if they expect more of their employees to come back as ebola patients.

and the hospital is two thirds empty. people are scared to come here. >> and i've just been given information while we talked. this is a new cdc bulletin. the cdc is asking passengers on board that flight from dallas to cleveland, ohio, that flight that we know that amber vinson was on is flight is 1142, front airline, from dallas/ft. worth to cleveland on october 10th. they're asking anybody on board that flight to contact the cdc. that is a brand-new information just -- i've just been given that bulletin right now. what is -- and we'll also put the contact number up on the screen in a moment. but what is important about that is because -- this really expands the number that the cdc wants to talk to. we don't want to say anything more than they simply want to talk to and check in with all of those people. because now they have to

basically get in contact with as many people that amber vinson may have gotten in contact with. >> right, and nina pham had one contact, amber vinson is going to have more than that for sure. >> you have two air flights. >> it is getting bigger and bigger. i will say she did not have d e diarrhea or vomiting on the flights. that is good. that will get people sick. and you're less infectious at the beginning of the illness. you just have less virus to spread around. and that is good. >> also, realistically, the vast majority of people on the flight don't have contact with each other. maybe it is the person sitting next to or you know, whatever the seating arrangement was. that would be of most interest to the cdc. but people sitting in other areas -- >> planes are not incredible of high concern to public health experts i have talked to. but you know, let's say she was

sweating, puts her arms down, somebody has a bare arm. you know that is possible, but not the highest of likelihoods. >> all right, elizabeth cohen, appreciate the update. nina pham, this is the first time we've seen her in the hospital room here in dallas, a room she has now vacated. she is smiling there. all along for the last several days she has been described as in good condition. but she is now en route in the air, flying to the nih. joining us now is the dallas mayor, mike rawlings, good to see you again. how is your perspective. >> today is better than yesterday. it was a bad day yesterday, very upset. we've made a lot of progress. >> what is the progress you see? >> well, the most important progress is focusing on the health of the health care workers in the room with mr. duncan. >> so amber vinson, nina pham --

>> we do that, but it is the health of the other health care workers, making sure they're safe -- >> there is as many as 76 health care workers who potentially came in contact with. the hospital said any health care workers who want to stay at the hospital. we'll have rooms for them. do you know how many of them took them up on the offer? >> dozens, more importantly, i just walked out of a meeting. we have the commissioner of the state health services has created a statement that everybody is going to have to sign. o it is going to put them on a no-fly list. they can't take public transportation. they must have a personal monitoring twice a day. furthermore they cannot go to public places. no churches, schools, restaurants, spas. they can't go to the shopping center. no grocery stores, they have to be there or at presbyterian. >> all right, so this is

brand-new. for the ov-- 76 -- >> the individuals that entered that. i think it is more a 50 number. there are a lot of people that did other things. >> so they are still self-monitoring. >> no, they're not self-monitoring. somebody is going to their house. but they can stay in the home if they want or they can come up here. i've had some saying we'll put them in hotel rooms. the community wants them safe. but we're going to keep them from public situations. >> is that quarantine? >> well, it is isolation, it is a technical word for quarantine. but if they do that, they end up going to a restaurant then the state will come in and put a control order on like we did with the first family. >> and this comes from the state or the cdc? >> the state. okay? the city and the county have been working with them under consultation with the cdc. we have powered through that today. we had commissioners that wanted

to do a state of emergency. we said that is not what we want. this is what we want. >> so you will have each of these people sign this? >> they're already out, people are handling it, signing it, going over it. and we're posting it over as we speak. >> thank you, mayor, appreciate your efforts. that is mayor rawlings of dallas, the document that he just held up, you can find it at cnn.com, that is a very interesting development, a new thing coming out of the state. president obama has been clearing out his schedule to deal with the ebola crisis. he met with advisers today and senior white house adviser jim acosta joining us. so jim, i know that president obama may be appointing a ebola czar. >> reporter: i talked to the press secretary on this, who is in charge. he could not answer the question

but went on to say that lisa monaco, the president's adviser can handle isis and ebola as well. and earlier the president said he may appoint an ebola czar. >> it may be necessary to appoint a third person, not because these people have not been doing an outstanding job. susan rice is my national security adviser. they have been doing an outstanding job really working hard on this issue. but they also are responsible for a whole bunch of other stuff. >> now, it is not all clear, the president is close to tapping in an ebola czar. he said he will get back to us if he orders a ebola czar. >> and others calling on him to put a travel ban, he said that is not an option right now. >> he said he is not opposed to a travel ban to the countries in

west africa, dealing with the ebola outbreak. but he did say if it is something needed to protect the american people he may go ahead and do that. he says the experts are telling him a travel ban wouldn't work as well as the current measures in place and that a travel ban may actually force people to evade the screening and go out of other countries and travel through other places to try to avoid being detected. but yes, you're right. all of this week the white house has been saying that they were opposed to all of this. and then curiously, the cdc director said on capitol hill that while he may be open to the idea as well, the president sort of cracked that door open. he did not completely knock down that possibility. just another example, anderson, how people are looking for clarity from the white house on this example. but they just have not been getting it. >> all right, jim acosta, appreciate the update. be sure to set your dvr, you can watch cnn whenever you would like to watch it.

and coming up, the interview with briana aguirre, who worked at texas presbyterian hospital. she says she and her colleagues didn't get the information they desperately needed not from the hospital and not from the cdc. >> i feel like if you're in there with an ebola patient and your life is on the line and your family's safety is at risk you should have the number to anyone. you should have the number to obama administration. to get you whatever you need to perform that job safely. and i'm not satisfied with any answer that the hospital has to offer at all. ♪ who's going to do it? who's going to make it happen? discover a new energy source. turn ocean waves into power. design cars that capture their emissions. build bridges that fix themselves. get more clean water to everyone. who's going to take the leap? who's going to write the code? who's going to do it? engineers. that's who. that's what i want to do. be an engineer. ♪ [ male announcer ] join the scientists and engineers of exxonmobil in inspiring america's future engineers.

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quick reminder, take a look at the bottom -- the banner at the bottom of your screen. if you flew on that frontier airlines flight from dallas/ft. worth to cleveland and on the returning flight, on monday,

either or, flight s 1142, they would like you to call them. now, here in dallas, people rightly take a lot of pride in their city, it is a great city, civic institutions and medical institutions, as well. obviously, it is harder these days, we can make the case that whichever city encountered the first ebola case in the country would probably be struggling in some of the ways that texas health presbyterian was. unexpected is one thing, and unprepared is another. and unprepared is precisely that nurse aguirre says the hospital was, unprepared. cdc guidelines were confusing, training was limited at best and the situation was chaotic. in addition she says the hospital was totally lacking in transparency. we spoke a short time ago with her attorney, bob kelly, and apologize for the helicopters.

it is stunning to me, too, the lack of transparency. this hospital, i'm not here to bash the hospital. >> i'm not either. >> but if you all are putting your lives on the line. putting your lives on the line. and there are other hospitals out there desperate for information, because other hospitals could make the same mistakes and need to learn. and this hospital has just been silent. they have been silent until you really have come forward. that is why i think what you're doing is so brave. this hospital has remained silent and say virtually nothing about what occurred inside there. the mistakes they have made. they apologized generally but they have not gotten specifics. and the specifics matter to help other hospitals out there. >> and ultimately i agree with every word you said. that is why i'm here. i'm so tired of hearing their explanations that don't mean anything to anyone. i'm tired of them blaming the nurses for being sick. i'm tired of it. i'm tired of it and i'm not taking it. those nurses are heroes.

and i refuse to continue to hear them you know, in any other light. and i'm not going to. >> let me ask you about the medical waste, because that is obviously a huge issue, as well. there is obviously a lot of medical waste in a case dealing with an ebola patient. how was that handled? >> well, there was no clear way that it was going to be handled. i believe that -- i mean, i never called a sanitation crew. i just told my charge nurse and the supervisor and the cdc and infectious disease, you know, i said excuse me, i said -- we need our garbage picked up. we are generating a crazy amount of garbage. just with the amount of gear we're wearing and every time you have to go in a room you have to put it all on and take it off and do it again. and you spend essentially all day getting dressed and undressed. and we were wearing disposable

scrubs, paper scrubs, some type of product. and crazy, a massive amount of garbage and waste, some of it coming directly from the patient's rooms. it was just piling up. when i came in on saturday morning the room that was designated as the garbage room was already chuck full. they ran out of room and they were just throwing bags in there. and so then, it started -- started being put in the hallway. and when i came there -- >> in the hallway? >> yeah, a hallway of o-- that s inside of the isolation you have 90. so it is not like a hallway that any joe schmo could be walking down. it was nurses -- it was a lockdown unit. but the cdc and the infectious disease people were walking up and down the highway with -- ha with no gloves on, and touching

stuff up and down the hallway and going into areas that were designated to be cleaned. and that is why i called that scene an uncontrolled, unsystematic, controlled area. >> are there whistle-blower protections for briana? >> they are, but the whistle-blower protection laws in texas are not that strong. that is what i would like to, to be able to avoid any kind of litigation or lawsuit, i want to make a public request to jim burke, to contact you, anderson, and go on record saying look, we recognize this nurse is a hero and her job is in in way in jeopardy as a result of what happened. >> we'll reach out to them. >> she is not in this for the money. she just wants to know her job is secure and she can continue to be a nurse and provide for her family. >> if god forbid you tested

positive and obviously you're monitoring yourself now to be treated? >> i don't know if i could legally refuse. but i would try. i would do everything and anything not to be a patient there. i told this to someone else. it is not because i feel like another facility would do a better job. i have a wonderful hospital. it is because of what i saw there and what i actually know to be going wrong in there. and i just would be sitting there feeling like i could be contaminated at any minute if i didn't already have ebola that i may get it by being there, by having a doctor cross-contaminate between patients. by having an incompetent infectious control department. by having incompetent cdc leadership there. absolutely. they promise. they promised to be transparent and they promised to put their employees' safety as their number one priority.

and i feel lied to. and i know so many other people that do, as well. >> well, briana, i appreciate your strength and courage coming forward. we'll continue to push forward with the hospital to get a response for you. bob as well. >> thank you, anderson. >> i want to point out a few moments ago we actually got a statement from texas health presbyterian from wendell watson, a public relations expert. he said, her employment status is the same as it was yesterday. we'll be able to learn more from her observations when she is willing. we'll continue to see if they live up to that. up next, from all the signs of ebola, there are still significant unknowns. sanjay gupta digs deep on that, coming up, stick around. even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers.

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as we said in a hearing on capitol hill today, lawmakers grilled health officials over their flawed response, the arrival of ebola in america and demanded an explanation for how two nurses became infected in the line of duty.

listen. >> do we know yet how the two health care workers in dallas were contracted the virus? was it a breakdown in the protocol? was it a breakdown in the training of the protocol? do we know whether or not the protocol works? >> you don't really know how ms. pham -- well, either one of these wonderful nurses were exposed? >> you said the protocols were breached, were the protocols breached? >> well, it seems like each day new questions surface about where the protocols broke down, if in fact that happened. if there were protocols in place. the question on who should be quarantined. we have heard repeated through quarantines for ebola should last 21 days, but what if that advice is out dated? well, it turns out there is a lot science doesn't know about ebola. >> reporter: the nation's top public health officials told congress again and again they

know a great deal about the ebola virus. >> there really is a lot we know about ebola. cdc has an entire branch, group of professionals who spend their careers working on ebola and other similar infections. they go out and stop outbreaks all the time. >> reporter: but even after 40 years after the disease was discovered in africa and named after the ebola river in what is now the congo, the disease still has some significant unknowns. for instance, the widely held belief is that if you don't develop symptoms for 21 days you're basically in the clear. >> ebola has an incubation period for 21 days and is not contagious until the person is symptomat symptomatic, beginning with a fever, correct? >> correct. >> but a cent at drexel university says that is not necessarily true. he just published a paper this week. >> i think the latest data show

more prolonged incubation of the time of outbreak, so there needs to be more sufficient data. >> reporter: so if the incubation time is longer it would have a wide-ranging impact on all the people currently being monitored for possible ebola exposure. >> i think their analysis is still founded on the original outbreak in zaire in 1976 without having a simulated the data from the outbreak that is happened subsequently. >> reporter: and what about transmission? how do a long-time friend of thomas eric duncan who slept in the same room with him, not get the disease, and two nurses who helped treat him get infected. >> we have very little idea why two people who are just as sick, one will live and one will die, even if they get the same

treatment. and if they get no treatment at all we know that something similar will happen. there is something obviously that the patients who survive are able to do and we don't know what makes the difference there. >> reporter: it is important to clarify that just because you're exposed to ebola doesn't mean you will get infected. and what about blood transfusions, like the one given to ebola patients like dr. kent brantly. scientists agree there is real hope there. >> use are serum from people who have recovered may very well have an effect, especially early in disease. and it seems that most of the people he donated blood to, and he himself got some from the recovered person, i understand. may very well have made a difference. >> and sanjay gupta joins us now again from emory university where amber vinson is being treated. you know, sanjay, i read the report earlier today about the

21 incubation time may not be fully accurate. it may actually take people longer to make sure that they're symptom-free. i think i read that in as many as 10 or 12% of of the cases it is longer than 21 days, is that right? >> that is what this new paper says, anderson. and keep in mind when you talk about some of the numbers we talk about them in definitive terms. they're not definitive terms or things when you talk about the incubation period. 21 days should catch some, but not all of them. that is something the people have to keep an eye on in terms of their protocols. yesterday, anderson, we talked about the temperature that constitute ebola. the paper just coming out, dr.

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. welcome back, our breaking news tonight, nurse nina pham is on her way to maryland at this hour for treatment of ebola. we want to again show you the video just posted of nina pham from inside her room here.

it was posted by a public relation department at texas presbyterian hospital before she left. her treating physician recorded the conversation with her before she was discharged. nina asked that the video be shared, according to the hospital. take a look. >> thank you for being part of this for 13 years to take care of the patient. this was a huge effort by all of you guys. and we're really proud of you. it means a lot. by all of you guys. don't cry. >> yeah, yeah, we're really proud of you. >> there is no crying. happy tears are okay. otherwise, no tears, okay.

>> a couple of things, first time obviously that is the first time we've seen nina pham in her hospital room and other thoughts and prayers are with her and her entire family as well as with amber vinson, you see the protective gear that the staff is wearing there in the room. it is a far cry from the protective gear that the nurses say they wore, into two weeks -- into what happened at the hospital. the crisis inside. and it is also interesting for a hospital that has not been transparent or not been making public statements on a routine basis, that has not told other hospitals exactly what has gone wrong in treating with and dealing with ebola inside this hospital that the pr department in the hospital would take the time to not only shoot the video

but to subtitle it. and that the doctor would take the time to point out in the subtitles, she was -- they call her a volunteer nurse. a volunteer, to make that point. it is orchestrated. it is important to keep that in mind. it is not an accident that it is released, days of this hospital of being completely untransparent. it is really stunning. we have been hearing a lot of questions about ebola. there is a lot of confusion out there. we have been answering a lot of questions. to do that we have chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. also a senior fellow at the institute for humanitarian affairs. and the author of the book, ebola, the natural and human history of the deadly ebola virus. sanjay, we're getting a lot of questions, cary asked why are patients with ebola being treated at different hospitals and not at just one or two

standard locations. a lot of people have asked us that. >> well, a lot of that has to do with where the patients end up. so in the case of mr. duncan he was obviously in dallas when he got sick and went to the emergency room there. and the anticipation, if you sort of had to look in the future a bit, we're likely to get other patients in the united states that after arriving here will be diagnosed with ebola. so they may not be in one of these places that have the centers, the emory, the nebraska, the nih, those places. so that is why the local hospitals, the local emergency departments have to have some of this training. they're still going to be the first line even he haif the pat are subsequently transferred. >> and even if it not here, it could be down the road and it is good to have that training. doctor, a lot of questions are asked about how the ebola is transmitted.

diana asks, it is not trans admitted through the air, but what if somebody with ebola coughs. >> the questions around ebola are very, very difficult and it is important to answer the questions exactly. most of what we know from transmission comes from looking at the pattern of spread in large epidemics and saying within a proximity people seem more likely to get infected and people have contact with bodily fluids and blood and get infected. what we can say confidently it doesn't seem to be airborne in small particles for a long period of time. but if somebody coughed in your face and you got a large droplet, what we do know is that ebola is highly infectious, especially from a sick person, will have a large amount of virus particles in them. and you don't need a lot of virus particles to get you sick. so the usual rule of thumb, is

the three-foot rule, if you didn't come within three feet it is very unlikely you would be able to catch it in the community. so i think the risk of it, the idea it would be airborne, something like flu is really not a concern. but certainly if you're exposed to bodily fluids over that way, a short distance, yeah they could be airborne. >> all right, david, you've done a lot of research on ebola. kim asked why were there over 70 health care workers assigned to take care of mr. duncan. why went that limited? which is something the cdc says should have been done? >> well, that is a good question, i don't know the answer. i know that people work long shifts. when they're wearing personal protective equipment it is very tiring and gets very hot inside the equipment even if the equipment is not adequate the way apparently it was not adequate in dallas. so people need to be rotated out. there are a lot of different

tasks. but you would think the hospital, if the hospital were really prepared and had sophisticated protocols and were following those would want to limit the number of people who were involved in the rotations of treating mr. duncan. >> doctor, appreciate you being on. sanjay stay with us, we'll shift gears a little bit. tonight, it is sanjay's turn to share his journey into his past as part of cnn's roots program. sanjay's story is fascinating. 1600 years back sanjay has been able to trace his family back. it is an incredible story, incredible journey, stick around for that. we'll be right back in a moment. ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one.

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. . welcome back. all this week here on cnn we are exploring our roots. a look at my family history earlier this week i you missed it. check it out at ac 360.com. tonight, our friend, correspondent, dr. gupta shares his journey into his family's past. how far back he went is remarkable. take a look.

♪ ♪ >> reporter: what are you thinking right now? >> amazing. i can't believe it. i can't believe it. >> reporter: you never thought you would come back here? >> never, never. >> thank you. >> reporter: we're good. now i am back with my son after 67 years. i'm not 67. >> i'm back after 67 years. in between, a lot of things happen. i was only 5. you cannot be 67. >> reporter: i tell people that my mom was a refugee when she was a young person. >> i am still a refugee. i never got that status back. >> reporter: my mom was a survivor of one of the bloodiest partitions in our werld's history. the religious wars between hindus and muslims in india and pakistan. you left everything you owned. >> everything we owned.

just as we did not know how long. and then we were going, we did not know that also. i tell you one good thing happened out of all of this. you know when you take a ball and you hit hard it goes up higher. the harder you hit, the harder it goes up, right? >> reporter: well here you are. >> we are. this is it. this is your roots. >> my roots. where i came. >> reporter: do you want to get out? >> sure. >> reporter: let's go look. it's hard to believe. my mom hasn't been back here in 70 years. she hasn't seemed to miss a beat though. she is asking right now, if any body in the small village recognizes her maiden name. hinurani. hinurani.

♪ ♪ >> reporter: so you walk through here, does anything look familiar? >> i think those doors look familiar. >> reporter: these doors over here? >> one of these doors can be my house. >> reporter: really? you want to knock. take a look. >> we can try. see if somebody will open. >> reporter: worth a shot. we have come all this way. i see some movement back there. they welcome her. she thinks this might be her house. >> we used to have like -- courtyard like this. >> courtyard like this. a swing used to sit in this portion. >> reporter: is that right? what do you think? >> it is amazing. can you believe i lived in some place like this. >> reporter: do you think this is your house? >> if not exactly seam house. something similar. may be seam house.

>> reporter: while my mom's family was forced to move, my dad's family, they have really lived in the same place for thousands of years. so we finally arrived here. it's hard to believe. what you are looking at now its the oldest place we can trace my father's ancestry back to. these are the people who still live here. >> a hero's welcome everywhere dad went. the big crowds. a lot of it was because of my great grandfather. because he donated a lot of land for the temple. a very charitable person. interesting. you can hear somebody's name. you can hear their, where they

lived. but then, when you get a little bit of an idea of what kind of person they were, that's really fascinating. you can see they literally rolled out the red carpet for my father and i. hundreds of relatives. that i didn't know i had. they even put up a sign here. they welcomed us into the home. >> going straight up from here. these are the stairs going right here. what's that? >> so it's different. >> reporter: the idea that i -- you know, tell my friend that my parents came from -- from the

other side of the world and very small towns. and villages. i mean this is, this is it. this its the very spot. >> we were about to take the biggest step in our own journey. who were my ancestors, what kind of people were they? we found a key that could help unlock the answers to some of the questions. so back to 1698. we went back. that's how far it was? >> 1698. before that. roughly, how many years are we talking? >> 1600.

>> these records go back 40 generations. they started writing on leaves. when paper was actually created. started writing on paper. some of the record here go back hundreds and hundreds of years. we came here, to find our roots. today we decided to leave some of our own as well. perhaps our own family will see this hundreds of years from now. sanjay, so amazing to see the scrolls, going back 40 generations, few people have that kind of a record. did you know that all of that was there?

>> you know, i heard rumors about this, anderson. i had never seen the for myself. what happens is these, these pundits their families sort of keep records of families in that area for, for, you know, generations. they just keep, passing it down from generation off to generation. so these, these pound yiltundits doing it for us. great, great, great grandfathers used to do it for our great grandfathers. an amazing thing. as i said in the piece. you can get the names of people. find out where they lived. there are so many stories about them as well. in there. and just figuring, what kind of people your ancestors are gives you such a place and sense of, a place in, in your life. and permanence. and so it was really, really powerful for all of us. >> i love they're called pundits. original cable news pundits. far different, obviously. what do you actually -- what, what -- what did you want your ancestors to see hundreds of years from now.

i wrote a lot about my family and what we were doing with our lives right now. but i decided that i, that i wanted to write a lot about the things that make me happy. the things that bring me real joy in my life. the things that, that maybe we don't talk enough about in our, in our lives, day-to-day. i thought if my relatives, my descendants, hundreds of years from now. thousands of years from now. if they knew anything about me. they should know what joy was to me. what it meant to me. can you tell everybody how your mom and dad met. i love that story. >> my parents, both, they were living in the states. my mom was living in oklahoma and was moving to michigan because sunny was an engineer. wanted to get a job. and the automotive capital of the world. and her car broke down in ann arbor. and you know she is a single,

indian woman, no friends, no money. just a broken down car. she goes to a phone booth and looks up the first indian name she can find. and this guy, his last name is patel. she calls, he doesn't answer. his roommate does. and his roommate is now her husband. my father. >> that's incredible. i mean, just amazing, amazing story. sanjay, great to see you. thank you. that does for it tonight. and "cnn tonight" starts now. >> thank you. both of you. please stick around. we have a lot to talk about. breaking news, nina pham being rushed to national health center in bethesda maryland. she spoke earlier today in00er dallas hospital room and asked for the individually to be shared. >> party, party in maryland. >> okay. >> do you need anything? okay.