>> so in the middle of your screen. nurse nina pham arriving from dallas to maryland where she will head now. to the national institutes of health. a facility they believe is better equipped to handle some one who has contracted ebola than, than presbyterian hospital in dallas. and sanjay, stand by one second here. i just want to update our viewers. you are watching now our breaking -- >> this is "cnn breaking news." >> welcome back, everyone. i am don lemon. top of the hour. you are looking live at frederick municipal airport in maryland, where nina pham's plane landed. 11:00 on the east coast. cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. want to go become to dr. sanjay

gupta helping us on the hours of cnn. at emory hospital. where amber vinson is being treated. a health care worker from dallas. transported from dallas to atlanta last evening. now we are witnessing another health care worker from dallas transported from dallas to maryland and is on her way by ambulance. very shortly. just got in. national institutes of health. and held in isolation there. also, brian todd is in bethesda, maryland, nina pham's plane has landed. and she is on the way to an isolation unit at the national institutes of health as we reported. that's where brian todd is. so, dr. gupta, we are getting wa too much experience. we kind of know the process here. i imagine she gets into the ambulance. and do some checking. they speak to her. what is possibly going on in the ambulance? >> she looks so stable, don,

obviously walking off of the plane and on to the ambulance. my guess is, that, it is, just a few minutes maybe of making sure she is, secure, everyone is secure. the ambulance on their way. this is a relatively short ride if i understand exactly where they landed. she should get off to the hospital quickly. then when they get there, don, it's -- you know we saw this here at the hospital behind me. here at emory. you want to minimize contact with other staff. patients, within the hospital. at the nih. probably taken straight up to the isolation unit. at that point doctors are seeing her for the first time. the nurses. they will be doing assessments. obviously medical record from dallas accompany her. her story is well known. they are going to know determin thing. i should point out again, don. there is no specific treatment for ebola.

there is not a magic potion or wand that the nih is going to offer her. you know the sort of treatment is not going to be much different. you've remember she got a blood transfusion in dallas from dr. kent brantly. he survived ebola. therefore, his blood had antibody that could fight ebola. that's the theory. give those anti-bed bodies to h. maybe fight the disease as well. the treatment itself probably not that much different. i think what is driving this, this movement from dallas to the nih is that dallas, dallas hospital, texas presbyterian had become some what overwhelmed by all that has gone on over the last couple weeks. and there are a lot staff members are on self-monitor. they cannot work. they put the hospital on diversion. either taking no knew patients. and sources inside the hospital. >> confidence. and sources told me was that they need to hit the reset button over there. and let things sort of cool down. and keep in mind.

any of the patients monitoring themselves right now. if they do develop, a fever, and do have -- a blood test that comes back positive for ebola, then they will go to the isolation unit in dallas. at least for the time being. and there are several people that fall into that category. so they're sort of waiting on that as well, don. >> can't imagine, sanjay, is that, i spoke with, with the uncle of amber vinson tonight. her parents are in an undisclosed location in dallas. they had come there to see her. they've couldn't see her. according to him they were told. once she was transport to atlanta. the ambulance is starting to move with the nurse inside. they were told once. they would have them go with her transported to atlanta. now you have this nurse, being transported. i can't imagine the families sitting at home watching this all play out and not being able to be close to their loved ones.

yeah, that's got to be tough. need to think about your own familien a situation like this. and imagine what it would be like. if your loved one was that person. there is good news she walked off that plane. we saw some video of her earlier, don, on your program. where she was in the intensive care unit prior to the departure. looked like she was doing well. she was in good spirits. those have got to be good signs for her family to be watching as well. you are right. i can't imagine if this was my daughter for example. knowing what we know about ebola. and, obviously she has a confirmed infection. you know, it's got to be frightening for them. >> brian todd, at the nationl institutes of health, center there. and brian again if you will tell our viewers, how far away. how long of a journey does she have between the airport and fred rick. then to there. what is going to happen.

have you been witnessing any preparations or what, as you have ben there at the hospital. ? we believe it is 35 miles away from here where the airport is. in relation to the hospital here. it will take probably at least 35 minutes. that convoy is going to be traveling probably slower than there ma normal traffic. anticipate, 40, 45 minutes to get here. real sense of anticipation here at this facility. we mention, the first ever patient to be diagnosed with the ebola virus to be treated here at nih at the unit called special clinical studies unit. we didn't get a chance to actually get inside and see the, the ice lags unsolation unit it. and we have been told about it. information about it. highly specialized. they call it a high containment unit, don. one official told me it is beyond isolation. that specialized that isolated. as an example, they have what they call charged respirators.

self contained respirators in her room. powered air purifying respirators what they call them. that means air does not go into a room and air does not go out of a room. just basically created in there. it is circulated in there. one of the specialities they have in the room. of course, the doctors, nurses and the staff will be treating her are all going to be wearing specialized protective gear. polyurethane suits, protections woven in. shoe covers. isolation gowns. gloves. things like that. everything you are seeing in other facilities. this was, this transfer as we have been saying came at the request of texas presbyterian hospital. they were overwhelmed by the potential cases they have there. they have up to 50 people they're monitoring who could have been exposed to the ebola virus. because of that. because of the people now having to beside lined to deal with the monitoring process there. they simply couldn't devote the resources to treat nina pham.

she is being brought here to the specialized facility, don. >> absolutely. they're under an incredible amount of pressure and stress there. in dallas. dr. garza, if i have it right, brian todd said there is no, no, air circulation. >> correct. >> if it is not air bern, wborn that necessary? >> it certainly isn't ape mu mu have. if you see in africa they're not wearing the equipment. it is not a must have. it is nice to have. so it is just adding an extra layer of security for people working on this patient. that's really all it is. >> uh-huh. ann toomie, president of allied employees, health professionals and allied employees, this brings light to the people, a whole lot of light on the people who put their lives on the line every day to treat people who, you know, under, under, incredible conditions.

and i would imagine -- that there is at least, there is a lot of leverage now that our health care workers are protected as best as possible and has all of the training that they need or at least more training. going forward. >> and that's correct. i guess the point i would look to make is that health care workers really want to be in the mix in this. and they're not going to shy away from this. what they do demand and they do need and everyone wants them to have is the proper equipment and the know-how, the training, the experience in using it. and, you know that's not too much to ask. so we are seeing our hospitals. i was with nurses from all over the country today. i am, you know, communicating with, with, you know, all of our leaders in new jersey. we are seeing some hospitals starting to respond. having drills.

starting to set protocols. they're not there yet. they're not where they should be yet. we really tried to make the effort. and that shoe beuld be a comfor the public and a come frt to the people who we represent. >> stand by. sanjay, dr. garza, appreciate it. we will get back to you. our brian todd informed us, about a 35-minute drive. you are not going to miss any of it when she gets out of the ambulance. it is important for you to see this. because you need to see the precautions that are being taken. look at that. the amount of personnel that are there. ambulances, police officers, and all tipypes of officials. precautions, measures being taken for this disease that is now turned up in america on our shores. if you will. ebola. and this is what happens when health care workers become

exposed when they didn't have the right equipment. this is what happens. so we are going to take a quick break. we are going to be back, nina pham, first health care worker, first person to be diagnosed inside america with ebola being take tine what is boulevard to be a better facility to deal with it, national institutes of health in maryland. we'll be right back in a moment. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ alex ] transamerica helped provide a lifetime of retirement income. so i can focus on what matters most. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica.

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>> breaking news here on cnn. welcome back, everyone. breaking news on cnn. nurse nina pham on her way to national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland. at the moment looking at the ambulance transporting her to that facility now where she will be in isolation. earlier tonight. president barack obama signalled openness, to appointing a ebola czar. but the president has not gone that far yet. so joining me to discuss all this and politics of ebola, van jones, cnn political commentator, and sarah satmayer, co-host of real news on the blaze, and david gergen joins us

as well and dr. sanjay gupta, chief medical correspondent on cnn will joan us. the president said he isn't against a travel ban. he doesn't think it will work. here he is. >> if we institute a travel ban instead of the protocols we put in place now. history shows there is a lake y likelihood of increased avoidance. people do not readily disclose their information. they may engage in something called broken travel. essentially breaking up their trip so they can hide the fact that they have been to one of these countries where there is in place. and as a result. we may end up getting less information about who has the disease. they're less likely to get treated properly. as a consequence we could end up having more cases rather than less. >> okay, sanjay, do you first.

is the president right will it be harder to keep track of where people have been. are they more likely to lie about it. it is hard to say that for sure. about the lying part. it is harder to track people. the concern. the biggest topic, don. people are going to find a way to get into countries regardless even if you einstitute a travel ban. people will leave these countries by land. they are going to be harder to track because of that. we know one of the basic ten tets, we hear this over and over again, stopping an jut breoutbr to trace people. can tact tra contact trace them. if they move around. move by land. come into the united states by ways, other than through the airports. you are not going to be able to track them. that's how, you know, outbreaks, many outbreaks start.

that's what dr. frieden has been saying. and there is momentum in congressional hearings to talk about travel bans. can you do a sort of, more limited travel ban, was an option that came up? can you track people's travel history through their passports find out if they have been in a west african country in 21 days. use that as a data point. all sorts of options, don on the table. >> it would be, figuring out exactly which one of the options are, to use. and you are talking, dr. anthony fauci, and thomas frieden. >> nih. >> national institutes of health. >> thomas frieden from centers of disease control. van, wondering if this response is political pressure from republican whose are going after president obama, listen to tim murphy before you respond to this, representative murphy.

>> we do not have to leave the door open to all travel to and from hot zones in western africa while ebola is an unwelcome and dangerous stowaway on these flights. >> what do you think, good, bad, political policy? >> this idea, sound great. we will stop all the planes. feel good today. feel really bad tomorrow. when you actually drive a lot of this stuff underground. i think what, i'm proud of about this president. he is actually trying to do what the science says. you can get emotional in these situations. try to do something that is good politics. wind up being bad policy. there is no evidence a travel play has worked when it comes to trying to stop an jut breoutbre. >> we need to be fair, a travel ban, and i don't think any one is being hiss trysterical. i don't know how many degrees. it is common sense.

ap ran a story. 30 countries mostly in africa have instituted a travel ban or travel restrictions of some sort. the doctor, health officials from kenya, thanked the fact that their country doesn't have ebola because they had border controls. they, the countries that surround it. the, hot zones, they close the borders down. this is common sense. no one is saying, complete travel ban and that no flights are in or out. people are hung up on that. common sense. you need to have humanitarian aid flown in. do it through the military. you need to have, some kind of control. you need to have quarantines. these are things you dent want it on american soil. this is how you do it. >> david gergen, see passion on both side here. the president again saying, he is not, not, not, philosophically -- owe posed to it. people are saying where is the president. seeing a lot, not seeing a lot

of the president. >> sure there is pressure. come offing from the public as much as politicians. don, listening to polls, talking to friends around the country. clear the country hasn't panicked about ebola. but people do want to know that government has the it under control. the government is decisive, strong. would a travel ban solve the problem, no? but we know the existing system has allowed somebody to lie coming in. and he died. and he spread it. so the current system isn't foolproof. sure, if you, if you've put in a travel ban. some people may escape. there are heck of a lot more people coming on the planes openly than are going to sneak around the system. most americans look and say, let's try the travel ban. maybe it will help. you know, strong majority would look to see that. most of all they would like sense of confidence the government is on top of this. there is somebody running this who is the public voice of the government telling them in a

strong, calming way, what is being done. how we are minimizing this. we are going to have more deaths. >> what you are talking about, david, what many people call a czar, ebola czar. the president spoke about that. listen. it may make sense for us to have one person in part just so -- after this initial surge of activity we can have a more regular process to make sure we are crossing ts and dotting is going forward. okay. if i appoint somebody i will let you know. >> he said -- so he hasn't decided that. i thought that was a very good answer. let you know as soon as i do. here is the question here. he said, that he believes that, his official security health official were doing a great job. some have said that this is a heck of a job, a moment, a

katrina moment. does it rise to that level do you think? >> i think so only. >> well, no. >> just, the inconsistency in what was told to us starting with the president of the united states few weeks ago. he said highly unlikely it will come to the u.s. then it came to the u.s. it was like don't worry about it. then cdc director said protocols weren't in place. then they said they were in place. there has been inconsistencies here that led to a perception. >> david, has he been inconsistent. it would seem to most level-headed people that it would, it is unfair to compare the death of almost 2,000 people to one person who died in the united states two people who have tested positive so far. has he been inconsistent, is that fair that comparison? >> i don't think that is the most serious problem here. i think are have been inconsistencies people have noticed that. i have worried a lot that dr. frieden runs the center for disease control regarded as an outstanding health commissioner in new york city under mayor

bloomberg, during bloomberg years with two health commissioners as you well know, don. they would argue life expectancy in new york went up in new york on three years. he has a good record coming into this. think he has been caught short on a few things. what is missing though, frankly, here, don, we don't have a surgeon general. we don't have a u.s. surgeon general. because we had a terrific guy the president put up, vick murphy, should have been confirmed. the republicans blocked that. for whatever reason they have not had a new nominee. the surgeon general should be taking the lead. >> van jones, dying to get in here. it is true. that's where the politics in all of this. there is no surgeon general. perhaps a person who can come out. j he doesn't give the orders. he can say here is where we are on this. >> much more importantly. very ironic, i was called the green job czar for the president at that time.

republicans said the czars were terrible. we should not have any czars. >> thank you for bringing that up. >> so now sudden lely, criticiz for not having czars. >> you are a tv czar, van. let me tell you why it is important. everybody else who is involved right now has other responsibilities. there is nobody in the government whose job is to deal with ebola. we need some one. >> well, if you had a surgeon general. you could task him with that or her with that. problem. right now nobody in the government whose only job is. i think there should be some one appointed. surgeon general. >> have to get to sanjay. if we did have one, how would a surgeon general help in this particular situation. would a surgeon general help at all? >> the surgeon general could help. they don't have mandatory powers. they dent haton't have teeth in

job in that regard. neither does the cdc. they have been advising. providing guidance. all of that. important distinction for a lot of people, assume, cdc can't mandate things either. but i think, the concern about fear, and concern about panic is in some ways as if not more dangerous than the virus itself. somebody who really can play that role, i think is, is probably important. and you know, as van said. they can toggle from whatever things they're doing. which they may have other duties to focus on this primarily. and really be out there. be out front on this. assuring the am scan publerican. >> sanjay, in full transparency. sanjay was up, kidded ed consi take over the role of surgeon general, he chose to stay at cnn. we are happy. we have the best coverage we believe by far not just on

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breaking news tonight. nurse nina pham on am ambulance

on the way to the nih. right now we will continue to follow that. but i also want to got to something else. our cnn series roots our journeys home. our cnn anchors have been sharing their journeys, how they came to be, how we all cam to be. tonight my colleagues, erin burnett's turn. >> reporter: i group in a small town in maryland. when i say small, i mean really small. believe the last census had population at about 420 people. we used to buy all the rabbit food here. and it felt that way. my parents were very idealistic. when they were young they had this dream of having this farm. so funny hearing them talk about it now. their eyes still light up. i want my son to know what it is look to have grown up here. talking to my parents they thought they would live there

forever. >> huh are you doing? >> how are you feeling? >> good. >> hello, nile. >> your definition of forever changes as you get older. >> do you know where you are? >> when they finally got to this point that they were ready this was it, the boxes were being moved. i couldn't really believe it. >> want to go see where mommy's room is. yeah, now you get to seat farm, this time. yeah, okay. that was uh-huh. it was hard for me to go through the house and see everything packed up. >> this is my dad's den. nothing changed in here. he may have be moving in two days. this is the way it looked for our whole life. oh, it is all packed up. that room was -- was, that was my, my home. for so long. >> it makes mommy sad. hm. >> it's hard to say good-bye.

so, cnn says we are doing this project on our roots. i find out about it right before your last weekend. >> isn't that amazing? >> it is a good omen or something, right? >> yeah, you remind me to pack up all the papers i have some where about some of the roots. >> you looked into it once, right? >> yeah, i looked at a lot of it. but never really indepth. >> i had a lot of questions, right. there are these pictures. and who are they? where did they come from? so we actually met a genealogist back at cnn who looked into my past. >> we are focusing on the stewart line. your mother's family. >> my mother's family, yes. >> we will start with john. the first generation in america. a passenger's contract ticket. >> to come from scotland to canada. >> yes. this tells us where in scotland

they are from. >> i first heard isle of sky. a great name. that place is a cool place. when we had this opportunity to go to sky. i wanted to share it with somebody. my mom has the a brother. uncle buzz. his real name is charles. my mom wasn't able to come. and so i thought, for, about .2 second. then i realized buzz would want to come. if it will be neat, adventure. he is there. >> ready for this uncle buzz. >> the beginning of the adventure. >> it was a beautiful day. it was perfect. it was the way i wanted to arrive. you could see the, the coast, and then the skyline, the sky. and it just was so glorious. >> reporter: we are going to see maggie. maggie is the historian who has been tracking family record on sky for her, for her, 25 years.

in the castle, actually is an archive. where they trace a lot of the genealogy. >> everybody who paid rent to lord mcdonald is listed in here so. we have stewart, number four. and his rent was -- three pound and four shillings a year. you can see most people were in arrears of rent. look, he was among the best. so the daughters, do you know anything about -- where they have -- resulted any? >> their families as far as being able to find the stay in sky. i think you will meet grandchildren. >> reporter: maggie told us there were two relatives that she knew of on sky right now. that we were going to meet. it turns out our family has been in hotel business for 50 years. this is the hotel t a man who

runs it, named malcolm we are related to. and donald owns a hotel around the cornerment came over and had beers with us. turns out we are from sky. stewarts. yes. >> i was here to see him. and i, he looked very quint essentially scotter to me. donald was, at first, a little bit shy. a little reticent. you have didn't family tree? >> it is not -- >> then he was going through all the genealogy. he had all sorts of papers. most of them not related to us. but then -- he, he told us where our land actually was. a toast to cousin. >> a toast to cousins. it was very quiet. and there were clouds. and that was an appropriate time to see the land. look at the view down there. the one that sticks out for me. it is very emotional to be on the actual ground that ancestors

came from. when you are here and realize they are here. pretty incrud biological. they loved thaflt had children. all of that happened right here. and as, the potato family, really took control of things. all of a sudden they couldn't afford to pay their rent. so they were actively told to leave. and it was bigger than just my family. bigger than just sky. it was scotland and ireland. we went back to the inn and uncle buzz and i were talking about the past few days we spent together. that was a moment where it all really cam together for me. thank you for coming. this was really, really special for me. to do this with you. >> thank you for having me. but suddenly i just thought of something your grandfather would have loved to have seen your success and to see us both in scotland. i'm starting to get weepy.

i think about it. because -- he just would have thought this was so wonderful. >> i didn't think i would feel that way. now i am feeling sad. but my mom is going to love it. oh, my gosh. >> i would never make it in this business. >> joining me now, erin burn spechburnett. >> uncle buzz is something else. >> a really, ragreat, great man. >> your dad thought about it. started to trace your ancestry, never got around it. would you have done this had we not done this? >> i don't know. always proud to be scott irish. i talked to my sisters we must have relatives closely related to us living in scotland and ireland. i never actually pulled the

trigger to then go explore it. so, i don't know that i would have. but i am really glad tie did. >> you know what made me. the farmhouse got me. because your town was, 400 people. >> 400 people. >> your family, 50 years, right? why did they decide to move. must have been tough? >> i mean they love that farm. and it is, a real part of their identity. who a there. and part of all of who we are. my sisters, there is three of us. as we were growing up. it gets to the point where they're older now. but actually they're now living with one of my sisters. it is a pretty special thing that they're all together too. >> your family was forced to, emigrate to canada, from sky, scotland. why is that? >> so, the potato famine which hit ireland and scotland was so horrible. what happened flush for a while, don. things were great. they were having lots and lots of childrenn't they were, their land was, essentially sharecroppers. and they were just getting their land smaller, smaller, smaller. when the potato famine hit they

had less than two acres for families of 9, 10, 15 people. >> not a lot. >> they couldn't survive. i have the documents. at that time the government of scotland said, please leave. the way they describe it. mass starvation, mass death. we encourage you, please leave the country. and they, actually had a little, the lord, in our case, lord mcdonald would give you money. government of scotland gave people money. they said, and you can just basically bar rote rest and pay it back when you get there. get out of here. my family tried to go to australia. and didn't succeed. and they ended up, settling for prince edward island, canada. >> lot of stuff to talk about. i really enjoyed it. >> thank you. >> thank you. learned a lot about you. >> breaking news tonight, nurse nina. pham in an ambulance on the way to the nih in bethesda, maryland. we will have more when we come right back.

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breaking news, nurse nina pham in an ambulance on the way to the nih in bethesda, maryland. looking at live pick schurz right now. meanwhile, you have been sending your questions on ebola. a team of medical experts to answer them. joining me, an infectious

disease and public health expert, and a doctor from harvard medical school, and a doctor, of the nyu school of medicine. as i just look to call her dr. debbie. easy tire pier to pronounce i'v out on the streets of new york city to speak with folks. let's hear from a gentleman who works in a hospital first. you work in a hospital? >> yes. >> do you think our hospitals are prepared? >> yes, i do. >> the one in dallas? >> well that one was -- the first case might have been tough for a hospital. because -- they may have not ever had experience with a disease like that. but now that, we know what can happen. you know, people are going to be more prepared. >> is he correct? are hospitals now more prepared? >> yeah, i think that is true to a certain extent. this is all unchartered water really. and what we did yesterday, we

are going to do better tomorrow, certainly. but you know some of this is a factor also of, a little built of mystery around ebola. you know, hospitals are not naive to infectious disease. lived through hiv, infectious diseases, robust needle stick, policies, body fluid policies, something different about ebola, maybe different mode of transmission or the half life of the virus is so long outside of the body. we need to do things differently with ebola, clearly. and we are, we are learning. >> we are watching nurse nina pham taken by ambulance to national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland. answering your questions. this is for the doctor from twitter. maybe the cdc should designate one hospital in the usa where all ebola patients go to limit risk. no? >> hi, don.

we have four biocontainment units across the country including, nih, emory, montana, nebraska. the problem is that they have limited capacity to handle these patients. nih has two bed. and we don't know where patients with ebola are going to appear. every hospital need to be prepared to screen all of their patients for risk factors for ebola, symptoms for ebola. then if they have a positive screen, to do the appropriate diagnostic testing. at that point, once they have identified somebody who may have ebola, they should be contacting their local health department, cdc, that's where the cdc, ebola swat team can come and assist until the paesh etient might be transferred. i am somewhat concerned we have four biocontainment units. if we continue to see the epidemic spiral out of control in west africa, we will see more

here. and the four went be able to contend with all of them. >> thank you, doctor, for that. getting. imagining getting fairly class to nurse nina pham arriving at national institutes of health in bethesda. been about 30 minutes. and our brian todd who is there on the scene. is saying that it, it will take about 35 minutes to get there. we are getting fairly close. dr. debbie, a young man on the street confused how the virus spread. listen, dr. debbie. >> do you have any questions about ebola? >> ebola, i have seen some, the problem they say it is an airborne virus. i don't really know, what, what does that mean? technically like, how does it spread? how easily does it spread? seems like it can spread ease loo ly one guy can come into texas.

20 people infected. i have 20 sources telling me 20 things. i need somebody to tell me what is going on with ebola? >> dr. debbie, he was not the only one on the street who said that. even though, health officials have been saying it is not airborne, somepeople just don't believe that. wlut do we kn what do we know? >> it is spread through bodily fluid. not airborne. with bodily flew is, blood, uri urine, vomit, diarrhea has to come in contact with your bodily fluids. much harder to spread than flu, or entero virus. other viruses we deal with. a second part. for example let's say ebola virus gets into your blood. we are not just sitting there defenseless. our body, immune system fights things. there are certain viruses we can fight better. we are not as good at fighting ebola which is why we are more concerned. if you get exposed to it then

you have a problem defending yourself from it. the reason that people are more concerned with the gear is that we are just becoming more cautious. if someone is vomiting, bleeding abnormally then you have to worry. people that we are following they don't have the virus. we have to watch them. >> thank you, dr. debbie. thank you much, all. i will go, get now to our breaking news. cnn's brian todd at, the, bethesda maryland, national institutes of health in bethesda maryland, nina pham. arriving. are you able to see anything from your vantage point? we can see a helicopter. the motorcade is arriving in a different entrance. the building where she will be take tune is right behind me. building 10. special clinical studies unit here at national institutes of health on high isolation. highly specialized unit.

and until her recovery is complete. just arriving now. took a fairly short time from the airport about, 40, 45 minutes from the airport. and she, she is just. pulling in under some sort of. >> brian, let me describe the pictures yeah. what you are seeing the ambulance is back, into a -- a portico. where she will be, she will exit the ambulance. i think this may be the first time the ambulance pulled into a covered position. usually they let the patient out in the driveway in an open setting. with a number of people around. not sure they have cleared the hospital. cleared an area for her. again this is an isolation facility. they're probably -- most definitely would imagine used to, dealing with this particular situation. and as brian todd reported earlier. this facility is equipped.

there is no -- into any parts of the facility. i do have doctors still here with me. as we are looking through this. you are here in new york city. nurse pham prepars to exit the vehicle. what happens next? >> the next thing they will do is bring her into the isolation room. they will be making sure everything is disinfected. prior to her arrival. once she gets there, you have double doors to enter the room. so, when health care providers enter the room. they put on, some of their gear. before entering the room. and some of it, prior to entering the antechamber, some in the antechamber. they enter the room. coming out, you remove gear in the antechamber, disinfect. come out of the second set of

doors. the idea about having two set of doors is to prevent air from liking out from the patient's room. what we call -- negative pressure. so that the fapatient's air they're breathing in and out is not coming outside. >> the ambulance is under our breaking news banner. but from what you can see, there we go. i don't think that she has the exited yet. we did see people in hazmat suits and pro ttective gear, on gurney being moved around. nurse nina pham left, dallas, 7:10, dallas time, central time. and is now arriving here on the east coast. i have with me dr. gregory cetone in massachusetts. you heard dr. gounder.

protocol in place at this particular facility, doctor, they did not have at the dallas facility. probably a better place for any one who has tested positive for y ebola to be. >> true, true. medical center geared up like this is certainly a good place to treat ebola patients. this brings up an interesting point though. the idea of quarantine or isolation. you know, one place i think we are lacking is, especially this early time in the onset of the ebola here in the u.s. is, are, ability to detect and contain early on. you know, one of the keys to, to stopping a local infection from aggressive to epidemic is early detection and strict quarantine. meaning quarantine where you are not in contact with others. and, it's an enforced quarantine. hopefully by the patient themselves with good education, understanding you don't go into quarantine as if it is a death sentence. quarantine is something that you can live, very peacefully and comfortably in.

if you never developed symptoms you come out. if you develop symptoms you get treated. and in fact, you probably get treated, well, actually have even better outcome than if you weren't in quarantine. symptoms picked up quicker. with good public education and understanding of early quarantine how that might nip these pandemics or epidemics in the bud. an area that we can improve upon. we have a narrow window now in the u.s. where we can actually do some, some, belter quarantine, to eradication rather than what is going on in west africa, frankly right now, where it spread so, so, diffusely that, you know quarantine can be used not to eradication. it its quarantine to improved or actually decreased propagation of the disease. >> before i go to dr. debbie. get back to brian todd. brian, you were saying at this facility they're working on an ebola vaccine?

that's right. don. the sfirst ti -- the first time in the united states testing ebola vaccine on humans. here at nih and walter reid, not far away here. two government facilities in suburban, maryland, not far from washington, d.c. are testing ebola vaccines on human beings first time in the united states. it will take several months for them to determine if they're safe and vaccines are usable for the public. so, a lot of anticipation of that. of course it can't happen fast enough for the victims and for the people who are really need, in need of a vaccine. but this place now, nih behind me now on the cutting edge of the ebola outbreak on two frundfrund fronts. treating nina pham and working on the cutting edge vaccine. where it is at in the united states with the fight against ebola occurring >> brian todd. thank you very much.

brian todd at national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland where nurse nina pham is. want to got to dr. debbie here with me in new york city. and, doctor, as we are looking at, we looked at the ambulance arriving. this, this, this must have been a harrowing trip. and really, a harrowing couple days if not a week or longer for this nurse. who has been diagnosed with ebola. what happens to her now once she is in this facility. our own dr. sanjay gupta said there isn't a treatment or cure of sorts. more monitoring and taking care of a patient. keeping them comfortable providing them with liquid. >> exactly. that's what we do with most people who have viruses. think of the flu virus. you try to get the person through it. so, if a person has vomiting, let's say, you try to do something for their nausea. diarrhea, you manage symptoms. with ebola there are mr. serious symptoms. you can bleed. you can suffer from blood loss and dehydration. so the idea would be to give

people fluid. blood if they need it. they can have kidney failure, liver failure. you want to observe for signs of that. try to manage symptoms. if you can actually help the person pull through that. then you, then they recover. and they're all right. one good thing here is we saw nina pham walking before. so, you know it doesn't predict whether you are going to develop complications. same time it means overall you are kind of in a better situation. you obviously have enough fluid to be able to stand what being too dizzy or passing out. you have the strength to be able to walk. i think those are really good signs that sunny was abhe was a that. >> speaks to her health. at least gives us a snapshot at the moment of what nurse nina pham is dealing with. we saw her. before she left. pr department of the hospital, put those pictures out. put them on youtube. of nurse nina pham saying, you

know she is feeling well. she was crying. she said that they were tears of joy. there she is in her hospital bed. can we really, dr. gounder, can we judge anything from a video posted to youtube about her condition? >> well she is not critically ill. we can say that much. not on dialysis. hasn't needed to be put on a ventilator. if she is on walking not on medications to support blood pressure. all gooding pronostic signs. as dr. debbie was saying, a lot of what we are doing now is continuing to monitor her blood pressure. supporting her with iv fluid and medications if she need it. one of the thing that is really deadly about ebola it attacks the miimmune system. puts you at risk for infections they need to monitor for that as well. >> all of the doctors. thank you. you helped guide us through this this including dr. sanjay gupta outside emory hospital in

atlanta, georgia, where the other young lady who has been treated, amber vinson, another health care worker who was diagnosed with yoeb webola was there as well. i'm don lemon. our breaking news coverage of nina pham, continues now with hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm natalie allen. >> i'm errol barnett. we are the team for the next four hours here. coming up this hour, battling ebola and surrounded by hazmat suits, infected american nurse nina pham appears upbeat despite her condition. we're going to take you live to the location outside of her new hospital in seconds here. >> she has just arrived there. u.s. officials admit major mistakes in the handling of the crisis. president obama says he might name an ebola czar.