>> it is anyone any guess whether jet is going to be smart or successful. as far as we are concerned, she can be anything she wants to be. come on, let's rock out. ♪ ♪ this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. tonight, nurse nina pham is resting scum for theably at national institutes of health clinics in bethesda clinic where sunny arrived last night. amber vinson treated at emory hospital in atlanta. questions are swirling abut when she had symptoms of ebola. we are going to have the latest on both nurses. also, cruise ship quarantine. a live report from the carnival "magic" heading back to texas after authorities learned a passenger on board is a health care worker who may have handled lab specimens from ebola victim.

proof that ebola has gone viral. this is the halloween costume of the year. also your questions on ebola. our expert team has the the answers for you. we are going to get right to it. cnn's brian todd at national ins tul institutes of health clinic. where nina pham is being treated. brian todd to you first. we were live last night as nina pham was transported to nih. where you are. what is her condition? what care will she be receiving? >> don, she is under 24/7 care in a unit at the special clinical studies unit here at nih. she is being tended to by highly trained staff of doctors and nurses. they're working in two 12-hour shifts, don. each men oinute some one is wit nina pham. always a disease specialist with her and critical care doctor.

on each shift. five nurses will be there. two will always be in the room with her at the same time. one expert says as far as the treatment sunny is going to be getting. the nih its not telling specific treatment. one expert says she is going to be getting fluid. electrolytes, antibiotics. if she has an infection that kind of thing. they have to look after her symptoms, because there its no actual direct medication for ebola. as far as whether she will make a full recovery. we asked that to dr. anthony fauci, head of division of infectious diseases here at nih. here's what he had to say. >> when you say recoverable, in the sense of recovery, absolutely. we fully intend to have this patient walk out of this hospital. and will do everything we possibly can to make that happen. >> now, tending to nina pham and her care in stroflz watvolves w

condition of care givers. watching that meticulously. each care giver has a buddy watching him or her going in and out of the unit. buddies check each other as the they get dressed in their isolation garb and hazmat suits. check each other getting undressed. a meticulous process because they cannot have a breach in protocol, don. >> let's talk other infected nurse, amber vinson in emory hospital, tracking her movement while sunny was there. what do you know about that situation? >> right. well gene nixon, health commissioner of summit county, ohio says they're tracing all of the close contacts that amber vinson might have had during that trip that she made to ohio. that was between, october 10th and october 13th. the latest information is that sunny might have had as many 16 close contacts with people at a tore she visited and on the planes she took. now the planes are an interesting question as well.

because frontier airlines now says it has contacted about 800 passengers who were on the planes that amber voin took. again, one flight from dallas to cleveland. on october 10th a nother flight from cleveland back to dallas on october 13th. 800 people who were on those flights as well as flights that the latter plane from cleveland to dallas took. for several days before that plane was taken out of commission. total of #800 people are being contacted. health commissioner in ohio and officials are saying, don those people have ape very lope chance of, even getting symptoms of yoeb. but just have to be careful and contact everyone on the flights. >> man tor monitoring them as w. we are hearing from the doctor that treated all three dallas yo yoi ebola patients. >> an affiliate spoke with the doctor about thomas eric duncan. they talked about everything,

even how duncan died. he described the death as very, very quick. a quote. also, saying thalt it was a period of minutes. he lost his pulse and was dead. the reporter for wfaa asked the doctor about the care duncan received specifically about claims that duncan perhaps didn't get the best care because the heave don't have health insurance and also because of his race because he was black. li listen to what he had to say about that. >> i find that remarkably insulting. that's -- i don't know how better to describe that. the team here worked their tails off trying to save his life. >> you can really sense the emotion there in that response. it is still difficult for this doctor to deal with what has

happened. don. >> lena, in the short time we have left. i want to ask you about officials in dallas. they issued restriction tuesday for the other medical workers involved in duncan's care. they have been asked to stay away from public gatherings. correct? >> we're talking abut more than 70 health care workers here in dallas county who have been asked to sign a legal document agreeing to certain restrictions even if they are not showing any symptoms of ebola infection. some restrictions include, agreeing not to travel on xh commercial planes, trains, buses. you mentioned supposed to stay away from public gatherings from places where people may gather. grocery stores and theaters. during the 21 days following their last exposure, or their last possible expoe sure to the virus. >> a dallas hospital worker who may have handled thomas duncan's

fluid samples quarantined on a cruise ship on the way back to texas. the doctor declared the worker symptom free. sunny will remain under isolation as precaution. the government of belize turned down the request by the u.s. to evacuate the worker who its airport. joining me on the phone. he is on board the carnival cruise ship and reporter for kmgh in denver. eric, thank you for joining us. how did you learn something was wrong on the ship and what was it? >> we actually were told by the cam t captain early this morning, via the loud speaker what was going on. a lot of people were upset about that on the ship. because we were in belize, five miles off the shore of believe. just sitting in the ocean. in the boat. the last night wondering what was going on. we didn't know why we were not moving. we were suppose to head to cozumel, the boat was not moving. really that way for several hours.

including went to bed with the boat parked out on the water there. finally, started moving in the middle of the night. and then we were told, final lely this morning, more than 12 hours later what was going on and this person was on the ship. >> want to read something you tweeted you. said ebola scare. on my vacation. still a party on the ship though. we weren't allowed to get off in cozumel. the question is what its the atmosphere on the boat? did people freak out about this? >> you know, not really. i mean, it was almost, really surprising. but i think it was because we were told, we were given clearance by the government to go ahead and port in cozumel. so our government was comfortable enough letting us get off the boat after awful this was going on. with this passenger. so we were under the understanding via the captain it was mexican authorities who were not alug us off the ship. the party just kind of kept

going. the pools were open. slides were open. people eating at the buffet. touching areas that everybody touches. so -- >> another day. >> things are normal here on the ship. >> you have another day and a half until you reach galveston. are you happy with the way the cruise ship handled this, eric? >> you know, as a passenger, not a reporter, i thought the communication was a bit of a problem. the fact they waited so long i heard a lot of people saying the same thing. it was, seemed very secretive as to what was going on. i wish they would have told us last night. when we were stuck, you know, five miles off the shore in belize just sitting there. but then there is also the sentiment on the boat that it is understandable. we weren't allowed to go to cozumel because of authorities there. there was concern over communication.

and what is going to happen when we got to galveston. understanding now we will get off the boat and go home. that is not going to happen. a question a lot of people have. >> belter believe. a lot of people will be wondering that as well. will be there waiting for you. eric lufer on board the carnival cruise ship "magic" and reporter from denver. thank you. best of luck to you. when we we come back on cnn. you have been sending your questions on ebola. to night our team of ex-perts aex-perts -- tonight our team of experts answers them.

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just heard our live report from the cruise ship heading back to texas after a passenger was quarantined who may have handled specimens from thomas eric duncan if i want to know what my experts think. joining me now, an assistant professor at nyu school of medicine, and former inspector general of department of transportation an attorney for victims of transportation accidents. mary, this is exactly what you do because, and talk about all the time, what do you think about what we just heard from eric lufer aboard the ship all the precautions, is it

necessary? >> well it's necessary for a couple reasons. one if this person does turn out to have any kind of symptoms they're going to have to find and track all the people on the ship. but it is also necessary because once again, i mean the country has to get control of this situation. we had one person on an airplane. we're now tracking 900 people. we had one person on a ship. and there are, couple thousand on the ship. we can't, the country cannot continue on this way. that's just two people. imagine if it is 10, 100. yes, it is necessary the we must get control. this is absurd. a lack of common sense all the way around. >> how do you get control? in the beginning. the official said shouldn't worry about it. it is hard to spread. it is probably not going to come here to the united states. on, on, and on. now we see this. what do you do, mary? >> well i think we do exactly what the, what washington does not want to do. we have to put in travel restrictions.

they have been used literally sets in middle ages. and they're effective. every country in africa has the now put them in place. and some of them have used them to wipe out ebola in their own country. several countries have done it. of course you restrict people who have had any contact with ebola. that would have eliminated these two cases you. do not allow unnecessary transportation to and from ebola stricken countries especially since the united states military its now providing transport. >> dr. debbie, mary is saying get on the same page. also saying, travel restrictions. speaking of getting on the same page. president obama appointed the ebola czar. do you think that will snep. >> i think it is good we have an ebola czar. ichl's in favor of that. what we need is some one smart and capable. he seems to be. so it is important for him to get the right team of advisers. he will need people, let's say, you know from the nursing side. from the medical side. from pharma, facilities.

in the hospital. for example this person on the cruise ship. they're concerned that they might have gotten exposed from something within the facility, let's say the blood that was transported. so i think it is important to get input from those folks. so, it is actually involve sowing many different things. i hope this ebola czar will be able to coordinate it all and come up with an effective plan. >> what you are saying, debbie, i help he has the a right set of advisers. regarded as an excellent manager. he does not have a health care background are. you saying does that matter? >> i don't think he needs to have the health care background. but he has to be able to understand what the advisers are telling him. and then execute that plan effectively. if he comes up with a plan he has to be able to adapt to changing circumstances too which its what has been happening throughout the whole situation. >> uh-huh. sure you heard yesterday, a passenger on a flight from nigeria to new york's jfk airport died in his seat after

following a fit of vom siting, profusely. cdc and officials were called. after what is a cursory exam by the cdc, determined the man did not have ebola. is it possible though to rule it out that quickly, dr. debbie? >> well if he died rights on the plane and they got the specimens like the vomit and other bodily fluids. they should be able to rule it out. if you are in the later stages of ebola where this would happen, you have got virus throughout your bodily fluids. easier to test. hard to find the ebola virus when you don't have symptoms, not high enough concentration in your blood. >> want to talk about peter king. he says there are 70 to 100 patients arriving every day at, at the airport from countries where ebola is rampant. passengers at least. he is demanding to know what the protocols are for when the passenger, false sick. what are they? do we know specifically? >> they are loose guidelines

unfortunately. the cdc has the power. secretary of health and human services, has the power to stop, quarantine, et cetera. has all of those powers. and has delegated them to the cdc. the cdc may stop any one that has a communicable disease. ebola is one of the particularly enumerated ones. the public health laws allow it. that's where it breaks down after that. while they can stop and inspect, sxam min and quarantine. then they have to rely on state, local officials, health facilities. the state is limited. every state has the ability. some states a felony if you don't comply. another misdemeanor. a patchwork quilt of laws. there is the power to do that. >> mary, dr. debbie. thank you. have a great weekend. appreciate you. ebola has been all over the headlines. only a matter of time before ebola spread to pop culture. more on that next.

ebola has been all over the headlines for weeks now it is taking over pop culture. here is cnn's correspondent. >> everywhere you look it is ebola. from people in protective suits on the news. to the deadly virus making cameos on your favorite shows. ebola has gone viral. >> we have such a long history of outbreak entertainment in the american culture. people are used to this type of thing. it desensitized them to the realities of what is happening. on twitter some one, posted a picture of a pretzel. and a softer version too, this

stuffed animal. and ebola has even broken into the music industry. ♪ is it ebola is it ebola ♪ >> reporter: this artist changing the words to lola. with ebola everybody wants to know if they have it. if so, how to cure it? >> everyone knows ebola kills. what exactly does it do? >> reporter: the new york giants playing the dallas cowboys on sunday got a class on ebola 101. although some have suggested the giants can't catch anything. let alone ebola. but there is a lot of information you can't trust. any time people are scared of something it often helps to talk about it in some way. >> reporter: case in point. watch this spoof from a recent "saturday night live." >> i'm sticking with you no matter what kind of cancer you have. >> i don't have cancer. i have ebola. >> oh. >> reporter: or south park

comparing the ebola scare to the fear of gluten. >> we have word of a possible gluten exposure in your home. >> after nina pham was diagnosed with ebola, her quarantined dog has become a household name. bentley has a health care provider suited up from head to toe. those protective suits aren't just for health care workers. these suits might just become the hottest halloween costume this year. this california come of pane expects to sell hundreds of these costumes and has no regrets. >> we don't see any controversy with it. we thing it is in good taste. we don't have any, blood splattered or anything else disgraceful. >> other retailers say it's just not right. >> we follow what the cues are in social media. things funny, lighthearted funny. nothing that is going to cross the line, serious or poking fun at tragedy. >> experts say poking fun at tragedy can be a way to cope

with a crisis if the suit fits. >> ebola is no laughing matter in dallas. really everywhere. joining me now is dallas resident, ben ferguson, cnn political commentator, host of the ben ferguson show. no surprise that ebola has hit pop culture. noticed when we started seeing a week ago, snl that sort of thing. how that's plague ying in dalla where you are? >> the top things people aren't interested in this halloween. this year, being the hot nurse, not so hot anymore. you don't want to buy that outfit is what everybody is saying. there is plenty of those on the shelves. and some people are saying they're going to go as a clorox guy. that one prob is tably is the b. the exterminator, people are going to wrap their cars and be the guys that look like they were trying to clean the house. some people are trying to have a little fun with it. it is such a scary thing.

and, for people that are here, it was don't worry. don't worry. then you have a nurse that gets on a plane. now you have the cruise ship in galveston. not coming to america. cdc has the it under control. all that here is pretty much no one believes anybody. >> seems to be mounting. i think generally, generally, the consensus is too soon. >> yeah. too soon especially if you are living in an area where you are truly concerned about it. you have different people that are walking out of homes, or going into hospitals, or having like, a great example. where i live. there are four people we found out yesterday from the health commission are in quarantine. they're self imposed. who, who two were on the flight. two of them worked at the hospital that were around the ebola patient. stow when you see schools in your own neighborhood, that were let out today. that didn't have class because they were making sure they clean the place again.

i think that's when it becomes real. hear about parents. not taking their kids to school for the last four days in a row. there was one kid who had a connection with a nurse that was in the hospital. that's when it becomes real life. >> do you think that people who -- come in contact with, some one who is, suffering from ebola, do you think they have a bigger responsibility not to go out and take, to be among, as little people as, you know, as possible. even if it was a peripheral contact. >> i do. i think when we saw things change here in dallas. the mentality. a lot of people were rooting for the first nurse. they were, they were, saying, what an incredible you, know, person these people that work in medicine. to willing to goen and fry to help save the first patient's life. then when everything changed. we found out about the second furs th nurse that got on a plane with a fever the i would never do that. why would a nurse do that. why would a nurse do that that was in a room with a man who had

ebola. what is wrong with you was the mentality. that's when i think everybody here changed. >> got to go, ben. awe t >> ben ferguson. thank you. have a good weekend. we'll be watching. that's it for us tonight. i'm don lemon. see you back here monday night. stay with cnn throughout the weekend. live coverage of the ebola coverage." "unguarded" with rachel nichols starts now. >> tonight on "unguard" with rachel nichols. lebron james opens up abut his drastic weight loss. being a celebrity father. and what made him decide to to leave a warm paradise and return to his roots in the rust belt. >> why would he leave sunny, florida, to go back to the cold of ohio. >> tennis superstar, serena williams, discusses just how sunny stayed so good for so long. >> train for, for 30-something years is it is