>> and there is a new point man in charge of the u.s. fight against ebola. >> in bethesda maryland, and akron ohio and dallas and aaron mcpike at the white house. >> a lot of republicans wondering why someone with no medical experience was named to this ebola czar position. >> christi that's right and you may remember ron klain from early 2009. the administration tapped him then to oversee stimulus funding that congress had just passed and now the white house is referring to klain as an implengs expert. implementation. after weeks of dealing with ebola. president obama caved to critics anointing a e biel czar long term adviser ron klain to coordinate a response. >> we have a all hand on deck

approach across government make sure we are keeping the american people safe. >> but klain is best gnome for --. has no experience in public health. complaints came fast and furious from republicans. who including ed royce who said i have to ask why the president didn't pick an individual with a noteworthy tinefficiency diseas or medical background. >> we were looking at an implementation expert. that is who ron klain is. he has extensive experience in the federal government and extensive management experience when it comes to the private sector. >> the white house is also fending off growing calls from both sides of the aisle to ban travel from infected countries in west africa. >> air travel is how this disease crosses borders and certainly how it got to texas in the first place. based on recent and ongoing

developments, i belief it is the right policy to ban air travel from countries that be hit hardest by the ebola outbreak. >> and now secretary of state john kerry is saying that this could become a much bigger global disaster if other countries don't do more. he is trying to shift the blame to other countries for having even weaker responses. >> aaron, thank you so much. >> the first dallas nurse to be diagnosed with ebola is undergoing treatment at the national institutes of health in maryland. and cnn's athena jones is there. what is the latest on nina pham. >> hi victor. well doctors told us we'd be getting an update if there is a change in nina's condition. we haven't heard to that effect. the latest we have is she is in fair condition, stable and resting comfortable. and able to sit up and interact with staff. and she's also eating and in good spirits we're told.

her mother and sister are in the area to be here ner her. and i want to talk about the hospital where she's being treated. she's in the special clinical studies here at nih. this is a place with vast experience treating the sickest of patients. and i want to play for you how doctor anthony fouchy described the team of people who are caring for her. >> well, she has the care of physicians and nurses and technicians with extensive straining, experience and knowledge of infectious diseases and inefficiency disease control. so there are two things happening. she is getting optimum intensive care if needed therapy but it is also being done with the optimum protection of our healthcare workers. >> you heard what dr. fauci said at the end, the optimal protection of healthcare workers. she's being treated by two rotating shift of nurses. 12 hour shifts. four or five nurses on each

shift. and any time nurses have to go into the room they have to go in in pairs this is the buddy system being done out of caution to make sure no protocols are breached. make sure the hazmat suits the nurses are wearing are as they should be. no gaps or anything that could potentially expose more nurses to this virus. i should also mention that while doctors didn't want to talk about her specific prognosis they said they fully expect her to recover and be able to walk out of here. and one thing they have done. they have taken the blood of dr. ken brantly. the thinking is that the antibodies in his plasma could potentially benefit misphas. ph. they this and other experimental strategies are on the table.

>> thank you. >> meanwhile the second dallas nurse with ebola is being treated now. not before she had been flown to ohio and back home to texas, possibly exposing other passengers to this deadly virus. i want to go to cnn national correspondent susan in akron. good to see you this morning. what have you learned about amber's condition. any word? >> reporter: there is no latest word because we understand it because of privacy issues. they are not releasing that information. so the last we heard was actually from her uncle, who spoke with cnn on thursday evening. and he told us at the time that she was doing all right. in terms of the other patients -- i should say patients. other contacts with whom she saw or spent some time with while she was visiting family back here in akron, last weekend, a week ago today. they said that absolutely no cases of ebola outbreak in any

part of ohio, nor have any part of those contacts developed any symptoms. 16 people are currently under quarantine. christi? >> you know because of what happened in texas and ohio some officials are wondering how and where patients should be treated. what are you hearing on the ground there in ohio. >> reporter: well it is an interesting discussion that is just starting to brew in this area. and that is this. that is if any of those 16 contacts currently being watched and monitored by the health department here for any possible signs of ebola-like symptoms, then people are wondering, should they be assessed here and possibly treated here? or some officials are suggesting the possibility of even if they develop ebola-like symptoms. should the cdc have a plane walting hewalt i waiting here and immediately

take them to some ore state that specializes. we're going to be asking the governor john casic about that when he has a news conference about an hour from now. the cdc says it is going to roll out new clear guidelines on protective gear for healthcare workers. and that could happen as soon as today. nick valencia joins us from dallas. and doctors are going overseas to help contain ebola. what kind of training are they getting. >> reporter: earlier this week i spent time in aniston alabama. cdc is training the doctors and nurse there is on their ways to countries in west africa. they are training them. a lot is about muscle memory. it is very meticulous. and it is also about the buddy system. >> in an abandoned building in aniston, alabama healthcare workers are getting a the crash course on treating ebola. this group of doctors and nurses

will soon head to three countries affected by the ebola outbreak. he says the training he gets today will mean the difference between life and death. >> we saw you struggle a little bit. >> yeah it's not easy. and that was a large size. and i'm not a large guy but still i could not get those kov cover alls without really touching the outside. i was supposed to only touch the inside which is the clean side. and i just couldn't do it. i'm going to practice again and again. >> the training is modelled after procedures used by doctors without borders. three days of intense practice of drawing blood, cleaning vomiting and even patient burial. >> if first thing you want to do is get rid of all the bulky gear. but you have to have the muscle memory of having done it before, knowing you can do it safely and

knowing that it has to take a little longer than you would like it to. and you have someone there guiding you through it so you stay come and just get it all off and then you walk out knowing that you are safe. >> she thinks a lot about safety with a wife and two-year-old back at home in kra, he's anxious about his trip but for him his dconcern is compassion. >> 50i78 leaving in a couple weeks. but whoever tells you they are not anxious in going to africa and working in an ebola unit is delusional. >> then why do it. >> it goes back to the issue of the solidarity and equity. if you are a fighter and you signed up to fight fires and there is a fire. you should go fight that fire. >> one of the biggest concerns for those who are going west africa is if removal of that personal protective equipment.

you saw the doctor struggle in that piece. and even if you do everything right in the removal of that equipment, there is still a slight chance you could contaminate yourself or contract the virus. this training session, they received over 500 inquiries from across the united states. they were initially going to stop the training in january. that's been extended to march and april. right now they are just training clinicians going to west africa. but they are open to the idea to use the training on domestic healthcare workers. >> nick there in dallas. thank you. we are also following a developing story in fact the ferguson shooting case. >> officer darren wilson version of the case. we'll tell you what it is. on my journey across america, i've learned that when you ask someone in texas if they want "big" savings on car insurance, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak...

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michael brown in ferguson, missouri. they now have officer darren wilson's version of what happened that day and it differs from witness's accounts. >> according to the "new york times" here is what he eld told investigators. he was trying to leave his car when brown shoved back in pinned him to the car and tried to grab for his gun. he says this made him fear hr his safety. and there are forensics here that say his gun went off twice in the car. and blood was found on the uniform and on the car door. >> let's bring in paul to dissect this. the big picture first. learning what we have from the "new york times" reporting, do you believe it makes it more or less likely if these reports are correct that darren wilson will be charged criminally. >> well this is strong evidence

for the officer. and i would say would we crease the likelihood of an indictment. but by no means is he out of woods yet. this evidence if it's believed would suggest that there was a struggle in the car. even if they believe the officer that michael brown was trying to get the ground and the officer was afraid for his life and the gun discharged, the real focus on the case will shift to what happened outside of the car when michael brown began to run away according to many witnesses. now obviously the police don't have the right to shoot him in the back or to fire when he's attempting to surrender. so i think the focus will shift on the officer. and as i said, he is not out of the woods yet. even though this is helpful testimony for him. >> let me ask you a question about the blood evidence that the "new york times" is citing as forensic evidence. that there was blood on the gun. would there have to be fingerprints or something else on the gun from michael brown to

classi clarify he was trying to grab it? >> fingerprints would be helpful but notwithstanding what people see on television, it is very hard to get a fingerprint off a gun. particularly a gun where if someone is struggling it would be a smeared fingerprint if it existed at all. so i don't think you are going to see that kind of evidence and those who are looking for an indictment will say what difference because it make that michael brown's blood was on the gun. the officer shot him when he tried to pull him into the car. so you can read this both ways depending how you are looking at the case. >> i want to pull that thread a little more because the officer's story according to the "new york times" reporting is he was pinned down in this vehicle. there was a struggle inside the cruiser. but if i'm here hearing you correctly, what you are say once that threat is subsided and they are outside the vehicle now

we're you ctalking about the poe threat or lack of threat that would require darren wilson to fire at michael brown. >> exactly. and here is how this plays out legally. tough right to shoot a fleeing felon if you believe that that person would constitute a danger to you or somebody else. so the officer will claim here the that because michael brown tried to kill him with his gun by taking his gun away he was a danger to the public and to the officer in general. however if, as some witnesses have said, michael brown turned with his hands up in a surrender gesture e well then he's no longer a threat to anybody and he cannot be shot. the officer may be saying well that is not what's happening. he was running towards me and trying to tackle me and he constitute tad continuing threat to my safety. so it will depend on what the grand jury believes which is is the accurate version. >> paul we appreciate your

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work kout out for him. we know that. but there is another job that maybe could have handled this before it got out of hand. the surgeon general. that's been open more than a year. and the president mom nominated murphy. and his position has tied up. i'm joined by professor of microbiology and biology. and analyst paul cowan is back with us. do you think having a surgeon general would make a difference here? >> i think it would be helpful. the surgeon general is sort of the doctor in charge. the public face of medicine. and if you have a forceful surgeon general with the sport of the president it's a very easy way to communicate to the american people. what a lot of people don't realize is he is head of a public health service that has 6500 trained medical professionals. they actually wear uniforms. it is kind of like a military

unit. o that is in place already instead of going to an ebola czar. but since he doesn't have a full-time person in place he's decided to go with an outside person. >> let's talk about the czar. ron klain, a marn wiman with a t of political experience but no medical background whatsoever. is that a mistake? yes. the fist mistake is to call the fellow a czar. you won't find me using that language. it misunderstanding language and history can the leadership. we need leadership and someone at the top who can sort out the players and make everyone play well together. that can be the surgeon general or a top manager directly reporting to the white house. so that will be helpful. >> paul, do you think this crisis could push congress to confirm the president's nomination for surgeon general. >> i don't think you will see that happen. the opposition was grounded not

only on the issue of nra opposition because he said guns were a health problem and they didn't like that apparently. but also some congressmen thought he's too young. in his 30s. he doesn't have that seasoned look people like to see in their doctors. and he's got enormous credentials. an mba and an m.d. and highly successful for a guy his age. but i think a lot of people believe you should have a more seasoned person in that chair if you are going to communicate to the public. >> let's talk about the person thus far what's been communicating to the public. dr. tom frieden the cdc director. there is a position online that says he should resign, that dr. afra frieden is a great guy with good guys but doesn't have the crisis management skills required for the moment. what do you think about the job that dr. frieden has done thus far? >> i think scientific leadership

is a very different thing than what people even misunderstand other leadership to be. so to criticize the leadership i think is entirely off base. he's been right out front with great communication, always precise, careful in what he says. careful in the moves that he makes and trying to find the right balance. i just find the criticism of him by people who are frankly amateurs in the things that he is superb at to be just grand standing. >> yeah i don't think he was questioning his credentials but certainly questioning his management style. let me ask you, i want to stay with you. >> whose questioning management style, surely. >> say it again. >> that criticism of management style, there are different management styles. and we have these mythologies of what is good managementem some

thing it is an iron fist and therefore they use the word czar. and that is not the way to lead a team. >> i hear that. go ahead pall. >> i just wanted to jump in on that czar thing. you know who used the word czar? the president did when he announced that he was going to make this appointment. he called his new appointee a czar. so i think with respect at least to this appointment we're just repeating what the president himself called his appointment. >> that is the first time i've heard him make that political capitulation then. he's very reluctant to use bad language. >> agreed. >> moving beyond the semantics there and i get the historical reference. but let me ask you about some of the fear. we know that two passengers on this flight with amber vincent, have self quarantined for 21 days. carnival cruise lines is not allowing anyone who's been in liberia or sierra leone or the third country, guinea that's effected in western africa in

the last 21 days to board ships. do you think all of that is warranted allen? >> well, we are acting so often in what we call an abundance of caution. which means we do far more than the data would require us to do. if you keep in mind in that situation the kind of very early symptomatology, even if it was early symptomatology that this amber vincent had experienced, there is zero evidence over 40 to 45 years that anyone has ever been infected by anyone at that early a stage of disease. nevertheless we take the precaution of saying it is hard to prove the absolute impossibility of that transmission. so we do quarantine people. i do think there is a tipping point at which too much caution, too much excess quarantine and too much excess of wearing of protective gear in situations where it's utterly unneeded

actually feeds the fear of people. because they see this cognitive dissonance, this disconnect between what they see and what they are being told the risk is so they assume there is more ri risk than they are being told. >> thank you both. >> thank you victor. >> little later in the news room we'll be talking to the ceo of frontier airlines talking about if they took the right measures in this case. hundreds back a concert to see their favorite artist. and things deteriorate in a big way. 16 people are dead. more in a moment. ♪

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fighters about isis positions and may really be helping deliver more precise air strikes. >> number two, prodemocracy protesters in hong kong meet with government leaders next week. this coming on the heels of this violent overnight demonstration. crowds as big as 9,000 clashed with police. more than 30 were arrested and scores of injuries reported. and more protests expected tonight. >> the official in charge of safety as a south korean concert has reportedly taken his own life. on friday 16 fell to their deaths at a concert when a ventilation grate collapse under their feet. fell four stories to the ground. >> and body had been found now. a family member found her along a river near seattle. the actress who appeared in august -- and djengo inchained

was found. >> and bide -- 44 years old. discharged earlier this year. his failed exam came a month after he was commissioned. the vice president has not publicly commented but hunter biden did say in a statement he was embarrassed and regretful. >> so bermuda and hawaii have more in common than beautiful beaches. they are also dealing with the duelling hurricanes today. >> following both storms for us. >> you think it's october, hurricane season must be getting over but in fact this year it is just getting going. two storms in the water right now. >> a double threat this morning. hurricanes are barrelling through the oceans on both sides

of the united states. in the atlantic, hurricane gonzalo a category 2 storm slammed bermuda with powerful winds, heavy rain and high surf early this morning. with sustained wind now of 105 miles per hour. there are reports of over 80% of the households in bermuda without power now as the eye of gonzalo passed right over the island. on the other side of the u.s. in the pacific ocean. >> amazing, amaidsing. but this is gorgeous to come and see this. this is beautiful. beautiful. the power is amazing. >> hurricane ana, a category 1 is passing south of the big island this morning with sustained winds of 85 miles per hour. there are tropical storm watches for all the hawaiian islands. this storm is expected to skirt south and west of the hawaiian islands later today and not make direct impact. >> this one i'm hoping is just going to two out to sea and off into la la land but not hurt the island. >> large as well as of surf are

expected with this storm and up to 6 to 8 inches of rain can be expected. with isolated amounts on top of these volcanos of up to 10 inches of rain. which can cause flash floods and increase the risk of mud slides. this tropical season has been relatively active for the hien islands. the last time they saw three or more systems because back in 1994. so far we've had hurricane ie schedule and then julio skirted north of the islands later that month. >> now we have two in the water. so hurricane season doesn't even end until november 30th so if the water is warm storms can still form. remember when sandy formed it was october. there is gonzalo, rolling right over bermuda. and the impact was from one side oth other. the winds went from 94 to 29 to

96 depending on what side of the eye you were on. in fact you could look up and see the moon. it was that clear in the eye. ana now, down to 80 miles per hour. but skirting suit of hilo. this was supposed to go right by the big island. that's why we have to look at the cone and not the center of the eye. this is what hawaii has seen. the past 50-some years the past 12 named storms have been near the island. and three systems this year. >> that's something else. >> already. chadd glad you are on it. thank you. >> thank you chad. some people in their home, we visit here. >> what? >> a constant back and forth about the temperature. it's too cold. it's too hot. >> guess which one of us is always cold. just guess. still, you know, political theater in florida this week? >> all over not the ac, but a

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so in his latest move to temper criticism over the hanlingle of the ebola virus, president obama named a point man. ron klain. not everybody is can convinced he is the right man for the job. amy, let me go to you first. did the president make the right choice? >> you know i'm very baffled by this choice. that the administration has the opportunity to reassure the public that they are putting someone in charge who has extensive expertise in public health, medicine and contagious disease. and they could have chosen someone whose basically walter

brimly with a stethoscope. instead they choose someone with no background and immediately described as a political operative. this seems like a strange choice just in terms of politics but also in terms of policy. that mr. klain may be a very capable competent manager but with no background in healthcare, we doesn't know what he doesn't know. >> the white house cited his credentials. strong management. strong relations with congress. isn't that part of the problem, people see him as too much of a washington insider? >> no i think the problem is everyone is focused on what else they can criticize this president for. and the point needs to be made here that there is already extensive and massive experience in public health and in infectious diseases at the cdc, at the nih, at hhs. and what ron klain's role is

going to be is to make sure that all of that talent is coordinated. and the person that you need to do that is the kind of background that ron has, which is in campaigns. now granted what he's going to be doing here is not a political nature. but make no mistake it is a campaign he is going to have to manage. a campaign to make sure that everybody whose on call to deal with this ebola crisis from nih to cdc to the defense department, to the military to hhs, to the white house is all on the same page making sure that everyone is talking to the appropriate people, making sure that all of the messages are coordinated in order to give the feel of a very smooth operation. and that is exactly what ron's background is going to give him the ability to do. >> so amy, what do you think this might do in terms of impacting midterm elections.

>> that are right around the corner. >> we're already seeing democratic candidates in tough reelection battles flip-flopping even on the topic of the travel bands into the united states. you are seeing a lot of democrats very very nervous and lacking confidence in the administration's response. and even the president of the united states it was reported by the "new york times" expressed his own frustrations for what he said was not a tight operation by any of those agencies that maria just listed. again as i say ron claklain may a very skilled campaigner but this isn't a campaign. we have live, we have nurses who have now contracted ebola after we were told we had this under control. a nurse who boarded a plane. these are questions the american people are rightly asking and they want to hear from someone who has deep extensive

knowledge. aol another example. >> i have to get to something else. i know you all want to talk about this. fan gate. come on people. a debate in florida. wednesday night really between governor rick scott and charlie crist. scott held up the debate for 8 minutes because of a fan chris had under his lecturn claiming it violated the no electronics rule and they have been bickering ever since. what wha do you make of this thing? >> you know there were republican operatives telling political analysts and political writers in florida that the moment that governor rick scott decided not to go on that stage when the debate started was the moment that he lost the election. it was ridiculous. when scott did come out, he wasn't really able to formulate a sentence that made sense. he looked like a deer in the headlights. he was booed whether he thought

a ban of gay marriage was discriminatory. such a hot mess christi, that he should have asked governor chris for use of his fan. >> amy you get the last word. >> i can't make heads or tail wind of this fan gate. scott says they weren't even told to get on the stage. there was all this dispute. i open only hope florida voters have better issues to address. >> we always preach you both. thank you. college football fans, you know this is a season for the ages in mississippi. the state has not one, but two of the best teams in the game. and we are live from tailgate central at the grove in oxford, mississippi. next. [ female announcer ] nervous whitening will damage your teeth?

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now passengers on a cruise ship find themselves in the middle of a vacation nightmare. this as their new concerns about president obama's pick for ebola czar and news of the shooting death that rocked ferguson, missouri. what was found in the police car of officer darren wilson? and two hurricanes posing a threat in the atlantic and the pacific. what is in their paths and whose in danger? good morning everyone. thanks for being here with us. i'm debra feyerick. we begin with one country taking no chances with ebola. the government believes closing its border to anyone anywhere near the deadly virus. the decision comes as the u.s. state department wanted to evacuate a dallas hospital worker from a cruise ship and fly her back to the united states from belize's city's airport. the government said no and issued visa and travel bands.

the hospital lab worker on the cruise may have had incorrect contact with thomas eric duncan handling one of his lab specimens. she is in voluntary isolation in a cabin. meanwhile controversy of the new point man in charge to u.s. and ebola. ron klain, former chief of staff to vice president joe biden and al gore. klain has zero medical experience. and that is not sitting well with some republicans. we're covering all angles of the story including new details on the dallas nurses who got ebola after treating thomas duncan. alexandria we're going to go to you first. the cruise ship carrying the lab supervisor from dallas hospital. tell us more about what is going to happen and how they actually identified her as having been in touch with eric duncan.

>> this ship will arrive in gal vesten tomorrow. gavs ston. the end of 21 days marks the incubation period. they have been closely watching this woman. we understand she has shown no symptoms. she's been checked out by a carnival cruise doctor. and she has taken the step to isolate in her cabin. they are doing everything to ensure the safety of all passengers online. >> first when you are on a ship you can't really get off and nobody was even allowed off at any of those ports. in terms of her and the other passengers on the ship, how were they notified? and what were they told to make sure there wasn't panic there on the carnival line? >> panic is the issue for everyone. people are concerned about how

contagious this virus is. how much it could spread. we note the passengers on board the ship are told they are getting a $200 credit for services. they were also told they would have a discount because they had to miss a stop in kaz mel. the cdc is saying this woman is low risk. it's been 20 days. and is still not showing nil symptoms. however keeping her on the ship was plan b. because we know that secretary of state john kerry reach out to the prime minister in belize. he wanted had passenger to disembark with her travel companion and fly back to the united states. belize denied the request and went a step further and banned all travel for passengers coming from ebola effected countries. >> and you can have passengers exposed but that doesn't meaner going to be effected. you have to have that wet direct

contact. so it is low risk but it shows how frightened everyone is. >> from doctors at the national institutes of health, ebola patient nina pham is doing well, sitting up and eating. the first texas nurse who became infected after treating thomas eric duncan the liberian man who came to the u.s. and then died from the disease. athena jones is live in dallas. we saw the video of her. she looked relatively upbeat. the nih specialized in infectious disease treatment. how is nina pham doing right now. >> well good morning, deb. doctors told us we would get u.s on any change in the condition of ms. pham. we haven't got any news indicating a change in condition. she's stable, and resting comfortable. doctors say she is sitting up, eating and in good spirits able to interact with her hospital

staff and care givers. we are know her mother and sister are in the area to be near here. and she's been taken care of by a team of folks experts in handling the sickest of patients. they are well trained. doctors stress the training the retraining and the drilling these teams do in order to help care for patients like nina pham. she's been cared for by two 12-hour shifts of nurses. and any time anyone goes in they have to go in in pairs. the buddy system is for caution to make sure no breach in protocol that these nurses are well protected from this virus because they don't want anymore nursing to be infected. >> when she was at texas presbyterian hospital her condition was good. we don't know what stage the disease was. after the trip the condition s listed as fair. was it the transport that took

its tole or now that her body is aggressively fighting the virus that is attacking it? >> it's interesting you bring it up. because doctors were asked specifically that question, why the change from good to fair? and doctors here did not suggest that this was any sort of deterioration. they said this is a virus that wreex havoc on your body. it is a virus that leaves you feeling very very fatigued. so their indication was the trip from dallas to here in maryland was just very very tiring for her: they did not say that that switch from good to fair indicated any sort of deterioration necessarily. and so like i said we should be gettingups if there is big change in her condition. so you might say at this point, no news is good news. as i said they said she is sitting up, eating in good spirits. so they are not indicating that it is anything more than the fatigue that comes from fighting off a virus like this and making that long journey. >> it is really just even fascinating to watch the video of her.

when you think of an ebola patient and see the victims in africa sz so much different to see her almost smiling and joking. so athena, thank you so much. well a nurse at the doallas hospital at the first ebola patient died says the staff was not ready. listen to what she told andersson's cooper. >> was your neck exposed? >> absolutely. >> what part of your neck. >> the zipper ended about here on me. and the hood ended about here on me. and, you know, this part right here made a triangle that was open. it was completely open. and the very first time that they were instructing me to put this on is exactly the point when i said why would my neck be exposed? why would an area so close to my mouth and my nose, why would

that be exposed? and they didn't have an answer. >> was there any follow up when you raised objections to what is clearly a ridiculous situation? a dangerous situation. >> i immediately felt like it was ridiculous and immediately posed had same question that you are asking me right now. i said why? why -- what explanation can you give me or anyone about why we would be in the second week of an ebola crisis in our hospital and we don't even have the same equipment or protection that's given to sanitation workers that have no contact with patients at all? and they said we know. we've ordered it. >> i can't believe their response was well we've ordered it. that's inexcusable. >> two weeks. i could have -- not to be taken lightly but i for sure could have ordered that on amazon prime and had it in two days. >> texas presbyterian officials

responded to us and saying quote we've conducted interviews with well over 100 care givers involved in the care multiple times. and all care givers reported being consistently complete with utilizing the appropriate personal froektive equipment in accordance with the cdc. the guidelines change frequently and the changes were frustrating to them and to management. so the real question, are american hospitals reed as doctor frieden says they are. karen davis is professor of management at johns hopkins, also a registered nurse. the cdc will be released updated guidelines soon. but when you look at what is going on is it up to the nurses to say this isn't good enough. we need more. that is what they did at a new york hospital. they said went wee don't want these little gowns. we want the whole shabang.

so where does the responsibility lie? >> we focused on training our nurses. and it is the hospital's responsibility. so whether we've done is really followed the guidelines given to us by the cdc and emory recommendations and we've been training a designated group of nurses for three months now to make sure they are prepared and we continue to train them so they can practice the isolation techniques over and over so we are in a state of readiness. >> do you believe that all hospitals are prepared to handle ebola cases? or should it be limited to a specific few? >> i can only speak for what we're doing at hopkins. and that is preparing to be able to be a place where we can adequately treat patients, as well as keep employees safe. >> what has been the concern employees have told you about whether in fact they are ready to treat this? >> well we've been listening to nurses. -- sorry this came out. oh i'm sorry.

we've been listening to nurses and making sure. >> she is going to put that in her ear. go ahead karen. what should happen? >> making absolutely sure they feel protected, that we have the adequate equipment for them. and that we understand where the concerns are. i think training a small group of people and focussing on a designated area has helped us. because we know exactly who's been trained and competent. and they have demonstrated that competence. and we know they are prepared at any time so if we need to take care of a patient we can do that. >> have there been nurses that said look, it's not that we can't handle it. have there been nursing -- okay we are having a little bit of trouble with that ear piece. so we're going move on. professor karen davis thank you for the insights we appreciate that. and president obama is taking action on the situation and as you may have heard he appointed a new ebola czar. whose this person? and he qualified for the job? that's coming up.

up next. two storms, two oceans and potential to cause major damage. the latest on where the hurricanes are heading right after this.

well as we speak two hurricanes are roaring in the atlantic. hurricane gonzalo has blacked out most of bermuda. 8 in 10 don't have power right now. downing trees and causing a lot of flooding. in the pacific, big waves in hawaii. the hurricane is not expected to make land fall but a state of emergence is in place just in case. heavy rain could cause floods and mud slides. a new advisory was just released. here's chad meyers for the latest. okay i'd rather be in hawaii but what's going on. >> id would do. because bermuda really got smacked overnight. a lot of wind damage there.

80% of people without power. a lot of wave action. i had shots showing sunken boats. it really got hit. the eye went right over bermuda. there is the island, there is the eye. it is still going. the latest down to 80 miles per hour. that's some relief to people of newfoundland. that's where it's going next. mere is the wind overnight. as the storm went right over the island. 96 miles per hour with the one eye wall. and then down to 29 with almost no wind. and then 113 the gusts on the other side of the wall. so they got both sides. one from one direction and one from the other. there goes gonzalo now and it could nick nufld land. back in the pacific this ana storm was forecast three days ago to make a direct impact. it didn't. it stayed south and will continue to stay to the south.

so not a wind event but a wave event and also a flash flooding event as it travels to the south of the islands and eventually out into the ocean. no threat here. 6 to 10 inches of rain fall could cause mud slides. and the waves are on the wrong side of the island. typically if you go to the north shore you get the waves from one direction, from the north. this storm is south of the island. so the wave are from an opposite direction. so if you are in se honolulu you are not expecting big waves like that. nice little 3 or 4 footers usually. they are much bigger today. so be careful. >> exactly. but you always have to love the surfsers. they are always ready as soon as the bad weather hits. and back to ebola. it is front and center. the white house, president obama decided who he wants to manage the problem.

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well ron klain hasn't held a pose for 24 hours but already a pushback from republicans on the president's choice. aaron, what are you hearing at

the white house? what is the biggest complaint about the appointment of ron klain? republicans are essentially saying this is a political pick. because ron klain has no medical background, no background in public health. you may remember klain from early 2009. the administration tapped him then to oversea the distribution of stimulus funding which of course wasn't popular with republicans. but now the white house is saying that klain is an implementation expert. >> after weeks of mistakes dealing with ebola. >> frankly i'd like to know whose in charge. >> president obama caved to critics, anointing an ebola czar. long time joe biden aid ron klain to coronordinate the administration's response. but klain is best known for managing political messaging and has no experience in public health. complaints came fast and furious

from republicans, including house foreign affairs chairman ed royce who said, "i have to ask why the president didn't pick an individual with a noteworthy infectious disease or public health background". >> we were looking for not an ebola expert but an implementation expert and that is ron klain. extensive management experience when it comes to the privacy sector. >> and the white house is also fending off growing calls from both sides of the aisle to ban travel from affected countries in west africa. >> air travel is in fact how this disease crosses borders. and it's certainly how it got to texas in the first place. base on recent and ongoing developments, i believe it is the right policy to ban air travel from countries that be hit hardest by the ebola

outbreak. >> and now we are hearing from the administration that they are trying to shift the blame to other countries for having even weaker responses. these are european countries, as well as the world health organization. secretary of state john kerry said that if all these countries don't do more this could be a much bigger global disaster almost like aids, deb. >> so if you think about what the white house is trying to do by appointing someone who knows what's going on autoat all the agen agencies. there is a report in the "new york times" that the president is visibly angry, that in fact perhaps the ebola response wasn't as aggressive, wasn't as complete as we -- or as the country was initially promised. what are you hearing? >> and you also may remember back to 2010, after the bp oil spill off the coast of louisiana that some of these reports surfaced at the time that president obama was very angry at the government's response. now we have asked the white

house about how president obama has reacted. if these reports that he was angry are true. and as soon as we hear more we will tell you. by i would point out he's canceled his schedule at the end of this week and has been more visibly engaged. there was a big meeting at the white house with a number of officials and president obama was at that meeting. >> fascinating. you think of ebola and ice skpis what's going on in the ukraine it's ban busy couple months in the white house. the death of 18-year-old michael brown at the hands of police officer shook the entire community of ferguson, missouri. today new details about blood found in the officer's car. what it could mean. up next. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 70,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet,

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bottom of the hour now. welcome back everyone. i'm debra feyerick. here is a look another the top stories right now. the u.s. supreme court said texas can go ahead with it's controversial voter id law just two days before early voting starts. critics say the law which requires photo id at the polls disenfranchises minorities. authorities say it is going to promote voter fraud. the man who shout an unarmed african american teenager over loud music will spend the rest of his life in prison. dunn fired ten times at davis's

car after an argument over the teenag teenager's loud music. before sentencing dunn told davis's family he was sorry about what happened but he said he feared hr for his life. and knew new information on the case of michael brown. the "new york times" reports test shows brown's flood was found on the gun, the uniform and inside the car of police officer darren wilson. the times also gives wilson's side of the story. it says that the officer told investigators that he was trying to get out of his car when brown shoved him back inside, hit him and then tried to grab for his gun. wilson's reported account contradicts some witnesses who say it was wilson the officer who was the aggressive. nick valencia jins joins us live. what are other details are we

hearing this could be a game changer. >> reporter: it could be. and we'll start by saying we have not been able to confirm the details but i appears to fall in line with the version of officer darren wilson. he is maintained there was a struggle inside the police car. the gun went off at least twice in the car. one hitting michael brown in the arm the other missing it. the source of the information is unnamed government sources familiar with the investigation. i talked to people in ferguson and the reaction is varied. darren wilson's supporters have maintained all along this is a justified shooting and that he did nothing wrong. that he was fearing for his life. meanwhile i've spoken to many mike brown supporters, including the pastor of the family who said he's just not buying this "new york times" report. saying it is another excuse to let officer wilson off the hook and that the country should worry for st. louis right now. i was there as you mentioned two months ago in august as were a

myriad of other cnn wor correspondents and we were in the middle of riots. the riots said the pastor that was just a test. with this evidence now he's worried that it could be very bad for st. louis. >> and obviously police officers have a wide use or have the latitude to use lethal force if they think it is necessary. so all of this is going to be interesting for the grand jury to evaluate. nick, thank you so much. well, we've seen members of iraq's military abandon their posts in the fight against isis. but now there are claims that former iraqi military officer pilots are actually working with the enemy in syria. app aun verified report says the officers are training isis to fly three captured war planes near syria.

the pentagon is questioning the report saying the officials are not aware of any isis flight operations. cnn has not been table confirm this independently that these fighters are training on war planes. is this even realistic? >> well it could be. the islamic state captured an air base. captured the fighter jets. they have an alliance with former bathist iraqi officers. i would be very surprised if they want to use them as an air force to drop bombs. that is possible but i don't think they would be airborne very long before they get shot down. i think more dangerous is if they are training them how to fly them on a oneway trip to attack some key target and basically as with 9/11 just crash the planes into some important target in the region. >> it's funny because that is exactly what i thought of when i

heard they were trying to learn to fly which is the 9/11 hijackers who wanted to learn to fly and didn't care about landing. but when you look at what is going on over there, administer administrators are saying air strikes have been effect in slowing the advance of isis. now instead of traveling in large groups they are traveling in smaller groups. do you see the strategy as working now? or as isis simply just revamped? >> well isis is certainly reacting to the attacks against them. defending themselves by dispersing, getting in among the civilian population, making themselves harder to hit. but when you are in a combat operation like they are near the town of kobani in northern syria, there is no civilians to hide among because the civilians have all fled the battlefield and that is why they are being absolutely hammered by coalition air strikes in that town right

now. but, you know, you can say that the air strikes are degrading isis. but it is as a glacial pace right now. the number of air strikes launched is minimal compared to a full blown air campaign such as the one we saw that led into the gulf war or in kosovo. so they are being degraded but it is a slow process. >> when you think about the value of kobani, do you think that ultimately isis will simply pull back? because there are other areas that strategically are more important, correct? >> that is correct. but now they are in a battle for presti prestige. they sort of staked their name on taking this town. not unlike hitler staking his reputation on taking stalin grad in 1942. the town can didn't mean a lot but you get in a fight for

reputation and then you get sukd in. so i think that's what's happening right now with the islamic state. it would probably behoove them to withdraw but then they would take a public hit for having been repulsed by the kurds and american air strikes. >> yeah and it's interesting. wear hearing from nick payton walsh that it was a busier day. there seem to be more blasts in that region. colonel, thank you. >> thank you. >> well it is something that healthcare workers have to face potentially, getting a the disease from someone they are treating. with ebola it is a nightmare scenario. next we're going to talk live to one of the first americans to contract ebola, nancy writebol. with patented technology... ...that heals cuts two days faster than store brands. neosporin. buy three johnson & johnson first aid products and get a free bag. ever since we launched snapshot,

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two texas nurse, nina pham and amber vincent are fighting the deadly ebola virus right now. one woman knows all too well what they are going through, nancy writebol.

she contracted the virus and thought first she had malaria. she was shocked when she found out it was ebola. nancy says she's not exactly sure how she contracted the disease. she was flown to emory in atlanta. she later recovered. nancy and her husband david join me on the phone from fulton, missouri. we are so pleased you could be with us this morning. nancy, first, how are you doing? how are you feeling? >> caller: i'm feeling great. thank you and thanks for having us this morning. >> when you think about it, you must have gone over in your mind hundreds of times the point of infection. what did you do? having taken every precaution, how did you become exposed? what are those thoughts. >> caller: well i think, you know, i continue to question that. and it continues to go around in my mind about was it -- did i contract it possibly from

another coworker? did i contract it from maybe a family member of an ebola patient. you know, there are many questions about how i did contract it. and i don't know that we'll ever know the answer to that question. >> and david, both of you were there. you were treating people with this horrible disease, this horrible virus. how do you compare the response and the reaction over in liberia to what's happening in the united states? >> caller: well, surrounding ebola there is a great deal of fear. because it is a very deadly disease. and so we saw -- some of the things we saw and reactions we saw relating to the fear in that we saw in west africa and we're seeing that here. and so, yeah. it is surprising in a way because our healthcare system is so much more well put together. but yet people are the same or

seem to be the same, yes. >> and do you think -- look, in some levels, you know, you were there on the ground with hundreds of sick patients. and now we have obviously three -- two right now that are being looked at. when you look at the kind of response, do you find it a little troubling? >> caller: well people always are afraid of the things they don't know. and so yeah it can cause them to do things that are perhaps a little bit outside the norm or maybe even a lot outside the norm. so we just don't know exactly how to react to that sometimes. >> caller: and i think one of the things we have to remember too is that we need to keep focussing back on what is happening in west africa and the fact that so much research is being done now for vaccines and

also for the serum that can help for those who have contracted ebola. >> and nancy, we also understand -- we know you can't tell exactly the circumstances but also that you yourself donated bloods. was that for analysis, for study, for potential development of treatments? >> caller: i have given blood -- i am in a study at emory. and happy to be able to do that. it is a study for -- to see about immunity and also i believe for vaccines. >> when you look at what's going on in texas, nancy and david, do you believe that somebody should have been more responsible? for example, even the gear that you wore in liberia, should that sophisticated kind of equipment t full gear have been implemented in texas as well in

your opinion? david? >> caller: well, you know, the healthcare workers should take every precaution and should be -- you know, they should be trained. there is equipment. there is application of what is known. and so all of those things should come together to adequately address a given situation. and so we would hope that those things would be done in each and every case. again, what we're seeing should heighten the awareness and heighten the alert for all of our healthcare providers. >> you know, dr. thomas frieden the head of the cdc said we can stop ebola in its tracks. but there is also the unknown human nature. she was excited. getting married. she decided to travel.

she called the cdc. should by flying given i've been exposed to someone who had ebola? do you think perhaps she should not have gone, simply, period? >> caller: well i think that she -- i mean they probably responded to the situation as it was at the current moment. and at that moment, you know, when she traveled, her fever was not elevated to the level that cdc was recommending that she not travel. so you can live your life in fear and in hide iing. but there is a point where it is important that, you know, in those 21 days i think that you have to be very very cautious. and whether she made the right decision or the wrong decision, i think, you know, the -- the

whole thing stems back to the fact that she was in contact with the cdc. >> exactly. very quickly nancy, what are your word of guidance and wisdom to these two nurses? what do you tell them right now quickly? >> caller: i just want to say that we're really praying for them and wish them all the best. and there are going to be good days and there are going to be bad days. but just hang in there and we'll just continue to pray for them. >> all right. nancy writebol, david writebol. thank you so much for your insights on treating this and with this virus. and with ebola spreading health officials really are racing to find a vaccine. the latest on trials under way right now. ever made. they're huge. yeah, but their size is just the beginning. even though they're huge. sure, sure. but they could change the way you see the world. oh, that is so huge. they could improve your health. huge! they're the biggest, most powerful iphones ever made.

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canada says it will ship 800 vials of its experimental ebola vaccine to the world health organization in geneva, switzerland. the first shipment is scheduled to be shipped on monday. with several active ebola cases in the u.s. and the potential for more in the future, finding a vaccine that works is a priority. as cnn's brian todd reports, the race is on. >> reporter: we've known about the ebola virus now for 38 years, but until now, no vaccines have been available for public use. right the now at this u.s. army facility outside washington, they are frantically testing a vaccine for the first time on humans. an urgent need to find a vaccine

for ebola. in this u.s. army laboratory, vials like these contain the ingredients crucial in the race against the deadly virus. it's one of two ebola vaccines now being tested in the u.s. for the first time on humans. >> the can vaccine being tested here stop this outbreak? >> well, it depends on how fast we can get this particular product through the regulatory pathway, so it can be used in efficacy-type trials. right now we have to establish that it's safe. >> reporter: vaccine investigator colonel shawn rentick gave us inside access to the walter reed research institute. the vaccine is being tested here on 39 people. they cannot get ebola here from the vaccine and the side effects are minimal. when ebola gets into the body, it often overwhelms the immune system, works too fast for the immune system the to combat it. this vaccine is designed to speed up the immune system's ability to fight ebola. >> if this vaccine works, could it be used to prevent people from getting to the ebola virus and treat people who already

have it? >> the majority of the studies we're looking at post-exposure, that means animals that were exposed to the ebola virus and then treated. we also did some studies that looked at pre-exposure, so we were given the vaccine -- they were given the vaccine and then exposed. both of those were good results and so we are cautiously optimistic. >> reporter: but will it work in humans? >> to be very realistic, most medicines and vaccines, even that look great in animals, don't pan out in the long run. >> reporter: even as they rush these vaccines through trials, they are serious questions over why it's taken this long. even though we've known about the ebola virus since 1976, there are no approved ebola vaccines available to the public. why? experts say ebola outbreaks, until now, haven't been widespread enough. >> it's not on the order, or it hasn't been, until recently, of a problem like malaria, hiv, or tb in terms of how people have prioritized investment in

vaccines. >> so, when will this vaccine be ready? dr. remmick says they're pushing the testing protocol here as fast as possible, but he and other experts say even under the best of circumstances, the vaccine being tested here and at the national institutes of health may not be ready for public use for several months. they simply have to make sure the vaccines are safe. brian todd, cnn, silver spring, maryland. >> and we will have the latest on all the new developments against ebola after. we will be right back.

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for the first time, we're hearing from one of the dallas doctors who treated all three ebola patients, including thomas eric duncan. dr. gary weinstein says his team did everything it could to try to save duncan's life. duncan was the first person diagnosed ever with ebola in the united states. he died earlier this month. in recent weeks, duncan's family has accused the hospital of not treating him fairly because of his race. our affiliate, wfaa, had a chance to ask dr. weinstein about those accusations. >> i find that remarkably insulting. that's -- i don't know how better to describe that. the team here worked their tails

off trying to save his life. >> do you think you tried everything you could? >> yes. >> do you think he could not be saved? >> he was -- yes, he was too sick. >> what was your reaction? when -- did you know he was dying and it was imminent? >> it was very, very quick. he was critically ill and unstable and over a period of minutes, he lost his pulse and was dead. >> and you can see the emotion there on his face and his voice. in the wfaa exclusive, dr. weinstein also addressed accusations that teams were not given proper protective gear. he says that his team was given

everything that the team asked for. and we have much more just ahead in the "newsroom". it all starts right now. hello, everyone. i'm deborah feyerick. so glad you could spend some of your saturday with us. i'm in for fredricka whitfield. here are the top stories we're following in the "cnn newsroom." the ebola fear growing in america. now the cdc planning big changes to how they will handle the virus. but is it too late? then, double trouble at sea. hurricanes battering a popular vacation spot in the pacific and atlantic oceans. our meteorologist is tracking both those storms. plus, brand-new evidence emerging from the shooting of michael brown. what police claim they found in and around officer darren wilson's car that could be a game changer.

well, we begin with some major steps being taken to handle the ebola crisis. the world health organization vowing today to make public a full review of its response to the deadly outbreak in west african countries. but that's once the crisis is under control. and just last night, a federal official says that the cdc will issue new protective equipment guidelines, quote, very soon, unquote. meanwhile, controversy builds over the new point man in charge of the u.s. response to ebola. he is rob klain, a former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore. he has virtually no medical experience and that not sitting well with some republicans. a week ago, nina pham made history. the texas nurse is the first person to have contracted ebola in the united states. this morning, she is said to be doing well, sitting up and eating in her isolation room at the national institutes of

health in bethesda, maryland. athena jones is there covering the story and athena, what is the latest? have we heard anything more from the hospital? >> reporter: hi, deb. the hospital says they will update us when there is a change in miss pham's condition. so we haven't heard any new news on that. we know that she is in fair condition. she's stable, as you mentioned. she's sitting up, table to eat. we're also told she's in good spirits, able to interact with the hospital staff, and that her mother and her sister are in the area to be near her. in fact, doctors had a lot of nice things to say about miss pham when they spoke about her, saying she's a terrific person, saying she's brave and a trooper. and dr. anthony fauci described a little bit of what her days are like as she's being treated hee here. let's go ahead and play that. >> she is in isolation, but she has almost continual person-to-person contact. we have nurses going in, doctors going in, a screen in the nurses, where we can speak to her. she has her ipad, all of the

things she has got, person-to-person contact. when we say isolation, let it be clear, this isn't a torture chamber. this is an individual who is constantly being cared for, cheered up, with our nurses are spectacular. and they do that all the time. >> and you heard dr. fauci talk about spectacular nurses. of course, this is a hospital used to dealing with the sickest of patients and nina pham is being cared for by a whole team of experts who are highly trained and highly specialized. and i should mention those nurses, they're working in two 12-hour shifts, four or five nurses on each shift. and anytime a nurse goes into the room where she is being kept in isolation, they do so in pair, to make sure there is no breach in protocol, to make sure there is no more spread of the virus. they do fully intend to have her walk out of her and they're doing everything they can to make sure that that happens. deb? >> yeah, and athena, you talk about, you know, them working in pairs now.

that was one of the early questions as to whether or not, the lack of this sort of pairing, this team, this buddy system, perhaps, contributed to this other nurses getting infected. but let's talk about the nih. because this is a big coup for them. they not only treat these infectious diseases, but they try to find cures and try to find treatment treatments. so what are we hearing about what's going on with miss pham and possible new treatments? >> reporter: well, that's an interesting question that was brought up in the press conference with the team of doctors here. and they say, of course, as you mentioned, this is a research hospital. and so while they're working to treat and to cure nurse pham, they're also going to be studying this disease. they called it the pathogenesis of a disease. how it responds to treatments. that's part of what they're doing. they did mention they're open to experimental treatments, but it's not clear what other various patients have gotten. what's working and what isn't. that's something they're going to be studying. deb? >> clearly a huge learning opportunity for the nih and

possibly for everyone around the world who's trying to fight this disease. thank you, athena jones. and now to that carnival cruise ship carrying a dallas hospital lab worker who had indirect contact with ebola patient, tom duncan. the carnival "magic" is on its wake back to galveston, texas, because the government of belize refused to allow that lab worker to come ashore. at all! even to be airlifted out. i want to bring in cnn's alexandra field with more on this story. and alexandra, what happened? there was a little bit of pushback between the u.s. state department and the government of belize. >> a flat-out denial of this request from the government of belize, which i think surprised a lot of people, especially considering the fact that there was a request made by secretary of state john kerry. he asked the prime minister in belize to accept the ship there. he wanted the carnival cruise ship to dock in belize and have the passenger of concern and her travel companion taken by private plane back to the united states. that was the first course of action that was sought here, bloo but belize said no, they regret it, but they couldn't accommodate the request by the united states.

they were doing so out of an abundance of concern for their own citizens. this is how the state department is reacting to that response. >> i think we feel it could have been handled differently, but what we're focused on now, this ship is en route back to galveston. obviously, we will provide any medical care we can -- not the state department -- inside the united states when they return. >> it's time for plan "b" now, which is take the ship all the way to galveston, and that is where this passenger will disembark. tomorrow, also marks 21 days, though, since she may have had contact with a specimen from thomas eric duncan, the ebola spas patient, and so far, no signs she's showing any symptoms. >> which is fascinating. everybody is very scared, anyone who may have been anywhere near thomas duncan is being looked at somebody who is possibly contagious, which isn't necessarily true. but what about the passengers on that ship. are we hearing from them? were they frightened at any point? >> look, we've had this situation before where passengers find themselves on a ship where there's an outbreak of norovirus.

this is nothing like this. this is a person considered to be very low-risk by the cdc. again, she has been monitored by doctors on the ship and have been doing self-monitoring. no signs of a temperature, no signs of any other symptoms. what she is doing is self-quarantining with her travel companion and that's the step that the cdc is suggesting that they take right now. those are the only guidelines they can follow. if you're on board the ship and missed the stop in cozumel, mexico, which is what they had to do, that's just a fact and a function of where we are right now. >> absolutely. and clearly, not good news for the cruise ship industry, even though it can't be transmitted through this sort of casual contact, certainly, airlines having the same issue as well. alexandra field, thank you so much. we appreciate that. well, thousands do not have power right now after a hurricane slammed the island. another hurricane in the pacific will narrowly miss hawaii. chad myers has more on this double threat. >> deb, gonzalo now obviously dying off as it's getting into colder water. will affect parts of eastern newfoundland later today. but the eye rolled right over bermuda, both sides of the eye. the eye wall on the north side

and the eye wall on the south side hit the from different directions and the eye at least for a while in the middle was very calm. winds, 96 down to 29, and an hour later, up to 113-mile-per-hour gusts. that's when you know you've got the eye. the eye right over that island for many hours. 80% of the island now without power still and they're going to have a number of hours, a number of days to pick up the pieces there. still a category 1 storm until it makes its way towards newfoundland and down just a tropical system at 70 miles per hour. ana, ana in the pacific, could have been a landfalling hurricane. it was forecast to be a couple of days ago. that's why you have to watch the cone and not the line. the line was right over the big island. but the cone was not. the cone was south of the big island, and also north, because it was so far away. well, the storm did miss all the islands, although missing with the wind and the eye, but not so much missing with the waves and also the potential for an awful lot of flash flooding. we could see 6 to 8 inches of rain, and some spots on the mountains up here, obviously the

volcanos, could get much more than that. could get a foot of rain. that could cause mud slides and washouts. if you're going to be driving around especially after dark tonight in the hawaiian islands, there could be an awful lot of weather you still have to deal, even though ana missed you. deb? >> chad myers, thank you. well, don't go anywhere, everyone, we have a lot of news coming up ahead, including nick valencia. a new development about the shooting in ferguson, missouri. nick? >> reporter: good afternoon, deb. much had been made about what happened outside of darren wilsons police cruiser. now new details about what may have happened inside. we'll bring you that report after the break. you're watching "cnn newsroom."

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reporting that tests show brown's blood was found on the gun, uniform, and inside the car of police officer darren wilson. "the times" also gives wilson's side of the story. nick valencia has been covering this case since august. nick, a lot of other details are emerging that suggest that, in fact, perhaps mr. brown had gone after the officer. >> reporter: yeah. and that's actually what officer darren wilson has maintained the whole time. deb, i should start by saying that this is coming to us from "the new york times" and that cnn cannot independently authenticate these details, but they seem to verify what officer darren wilson has been saying all along. that there was a struggle inside that police cruiser. "the new york times" citing forensic evidence, saying that that gun went off at least two times in the police cruiser, striking brown once in the arm and the other one missing him. they cite forensic evidence from an unnamed government official who's familiar with this investigation. i've reached out to residents in ferguson, i've been on the phone with them throughout the day, and as you can imagine, this reaction has varied.

michael brown supporters, they just don't buy it. darren wilson supporters, they've maintained all along that the officer was justified in his shooting and that he needed to fatally shoot mike brown, because he feared for his life. now, i spoke earlier with the pastor of the brown family, and he told me that this report is just another excuse to help and encourage office brown from being let off the hook. the grand jury has not released their findings yet. initially, we were supposed to get those findings or we thought they would come out in mid-october. the point or fact is, we don't know when those findings will come out. but already a tense situation in ferguson. when i was there two months ago, our crews were caught up in the riots. a myriad of reporters were also caught up in that escalating violence there. tension is high, obviously, and it has been. no telling how this will contribute to that tension. you know, right now, varying reaction in ferguson, deb. >> yeah. and there has been a call for the prosecutor to step down, but i spoke to a lot of lawyers there who say, they're not 100%

sure there is going to be some sort of indictment given the facts from both sides. that's why we've got a civil rights investigation. nick valencia, thank you for us. and president obama tapping what he's calling an ebola czar. but there's just one thing missing from the man's past -- a medical background. we'll take a look at the politics involved, coming up next. but first, each week we are shining a spotlight on the top ten cnn heroes of 2014. you can vote for the one who inspires you the most at cnnheroes.com. this week's honoree is helping save her community's kids with a little help from some unlikely friends. meet patricia kelly. >> it's tough. it was tough growing up here. it was just so easy to take the wrong path. i was walking around with a lot on my shoulders. at a young age. i didn't really care about life anymore. when i met miss kelly,

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so for those of you who have lost count, it's actually 17 days until election day. and hanging in the balance is control of the u.s. senate. the big election issue this fall, the so-called october surprise, is nothing that anyone expected, because it's ebola. cnn's national correspondent, suzanne malveaux, reports in america's choice, 2014. >> reporter: move over immigration, isis, and obamacare. the mid-term elections have caught a case of ebola. >> ebola is the october surprise of 2014. >> reporter: including senate races in north carolina, new

hampshire, iowa, virginia, colorado, kansas, kentucky, louisiana, and arkansas. ebola, front and center in debates. >> senator pryor won't even hold president obama accountable for not protecting our country and our families from ebola. >> reporter: slickly produced in attack ads. >> reporter: democrats are blaming republicans for cutting funding that would have helped the the u.s. better prepare for an outbreak. >> the cdc says its discretionary funding has been cut by $585 million. >> reporter: republicans are attacking democrats by going after the president, criticizing mr. obama for not enacting a travel ban on ebola-plagued west african countries. >> if you want to visit your son or daughter and you're coming from liberia, couldn't you have waited a couple of months. >> reporter: a topic that has gained momentum as americans become more fearful of flying. >> is the white house considering a travel ban? >> i can't speak for the white

house. >> reporter: late in the day, the president did. >> a flat-out travel ban is not the best way to go. >> reporter: in one of the most contentious senate races, new hampshire, republican scott brown is using ebola to make his case for closing the border. >> i have been so adamant about closing our border, because people are coming in from normal channels. can you imagine what they can do to a porous border? >> reporter: political analysts warn, fearmongering from both sides could backfire, turning voters off. >> reporter: comedians like stephen colbert have picked up on the absurdity too. >> one person out there who's irresponsibly calm is president barack ebola. >> reporter: but a recent poll shows that 43% of americans disapprove of how president obama has responded to the ebola crisis, compared to 41% who approve. forcing vulnerable democrats in

tight races to distance themselves from the president. and it's not just the midterm elections. with ebola fears spreading so quickly, the issue is likely to play out in the 2016 presidential election as well. deb? >> all right. suzanne malveaux, thank you. and to stop all the fallout from the ebola crisis, the obama administration decided to tap a democratic insider, ron klain, naming him the ebola czar. but klain has no medical background, so is this too little, too late? ron brownstein is editor and director of the national journal, a publication i once worked for as a young intern. he is in our los angeles bureau. so klain is the former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden, al gore. can he really make a difference? is this all this crisis needs, is someone who can oversee everything that's going on? a figurehead? >> it needs more than that. but the white house made a clear choice here. there are two ways they could have gone on this. they could have gone for the reassuring, fatherly physician type. people have talked like c.

everett coop, who was the surgeon general in the reagan years, who could have been a reassuring figure. they decided instead what they needed was someone who had experience wrangling the federal bureaucracy, managing messes, but also managing the federal system. people in that first camp, the reassuring physician probably wouldn't have had the second skills. and ron klain, who has a lot of skills inside the government, really doesn't have the qualifications in the first group. he's not going to be a figure who's going to be out there reassuring the public. they're counting on their existing team at cdc and nih to do that. but this is really a pick about both managing the government and managing the message. >> but do you think by picking somebody who doesn't have any sort of medical background, why not reach across the aisle to somebody like bill frist, for example, who's a doctor, who was over treating -- over working as a missionary. why not somebody who can actually say, look, i've been there, here's what we have to do, everything's okay? we're not really getting that, not yet, anyway. >> right. and as i say, that is the

other -- bill frist would have been a very good choice, actually, as well. but that is a different choice. because bill frist is someone who is very qualified, a former senate majority leader, but not someone who necessarily has those experiences within the federal government managing it and making it work. and also, let's face it. this is an administration, like most administrations, when they are under siege, they kind of circle the wagons and look to people they know and the people that are familiar with. they don't necessarily reach out beyond their comfort circle, and certainly, ron klain is someone who fits within that circle for president obama. >> do you think the administration could get some brownie points, additional brownie points, let's say, if they focused on the u.s. efforts that are now being made in west africa. because you've got troops there, you've got, they're essentially building parts of liberia, including re-paving roads and trying to fix the health care system there. but we're not really hearing that coming out in the messaging. we're hearing two nurses here. are they missing an opportunity?

>> well, look, i think this is the fundamental debate, which is -- and it runs through a lot of the different security issues we now face in this highly interconnected world. if you look at the debate over isis, work at the debate over the central american kids crossing the border earlier this year, and certainly if you look at the debate over ebola, the question is, what is the best way to protect america, by focusing our defenses here or by trying to deal with these problems at the route, at the source. and you know, i describe this as a barricade strategy versus a bridge strategy. and the president clearly believes, and as you see in his resistance in the travel ban and his pressure on other nations to do more in west africa, that the only way to truly deal with this problem is, in fact, to have an intensified effort at the source. it was the same thing when we had the flow of central american kids coming across the border. he resisted the toughest militarization of the border ideas, and instead tried to work with the central american countries and mexico to reduce the flow. that is a basic debate. and what you are hearing now in the ebola debate, where it merges with the immigration

debate, is really around this core idea. can we protect america, primarily, by fortifying our own domestic defenses, or do we have to kind of reach out abroad and deal with the causes? there's no question where the president stands on that, but in this case, his response has been undercut, a, by a lack of attention, but, b, a bigger problem, kind of a sense of lack of competence in handling the domestic part of the response. >> is it lack of competence or simply bad timing? you look at isis, isis is like the jihadi version of ebola. all of a sudden it was growing and all of a sudden it burst on to the scene. much the same way as ebola. everybody knew what was happening in west africa, now all of a sudden it's in america. so everybody changes. do you think that more attention needs to be paid to these horrible issues sooner rather than later? and should the administration stand up and say, now, now is the time. we can't wait a month, can't wait two months, it's got to be done. >> right, look, as i say, the bridge-building strategy is where obama places his chips.

and that's requires working with other nations, it requires building coalitions. that takes time. but i think the fairest critique of the president on all of these issues is whether the focus is intense enough and the action is quick enough. certainly, looking back, no one would say that they were quick enough in dealing with the threat of cyisis. same issue with the increasing flow on the central american border, whether they act to do slowly. and here with ebola, there was this reashussurance that hospit were ready for this. and it turns out, as we see in this first catastrophic case, that they were not. that is the fairest critique, that they have not acted quickly enough to deal with these challenges, even if they were focused on the right strategy in the long run, with trying to deal with them at the root cause. >> ron brownstein, as always, a pleasure. thanks so much. >> thank you. and growing concerns about ebola protocol here in america after two nurses at that texas presbyterian hospital were infected. our next guest treated ebola patients in liberia and worked

with one of the american ebola victims. she explains why we all need to calm down, next.

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welcome back, everyone. i'm deborah feyerick. here's a look at the top stories making the news right now. in the fight against isis, the u.s. has launched 15 air strikes against terrorist targets in the last 24 hours. two of those happened near kobani, syria, which is on the border with turkey. there have been more than 120 air strikes in kobani in the last three weeks. kurds on the ground tell cnn the air strikes that helped them push isis back preventing the militants from taking the full control of the border town. more than 200 nigerian schoolgirls abducted from their school could soon be coming home. nigeria now says it has struck a cease-fire deal with boca haram, the militant group that took the girls back in april. it says as part of the agreement, they will release the girls. the jacksonville, florida, man who shot an unarmed

african-american teenager over loud music will spend the rest of his life in prison with no chance for parole. a judge sentenced michael dunn friday for the murder of 17-year-old jordan davis. dunn fired ten times at davis' car after an argument over the teenager's loud music. after sentencing, dunn told teenager's family that he was sorry about what happened, but he said he feared for his life. for health workers, learning the proper way to put on and take off their protective gear can make the difference between life and death. cnn's jonathan mann tells us how volunteers with doctors without borders are taking no chances as they fight ebola in west africa. >> reporter: getting ready to battle ebola. >> so now, when we are getting dressed, we have to think how we are going to undress it. >> reporter: trainees for doctors without bordering are getting a potentially life-saving lesson at their headquarters in brussels, learning how to properly put on and remove the gowns, masks, and

gloves that will protect them against the deadly virus, before they head to west africa. >> we limit the number of times that we suit up and go into the actual high-risk zones where the patients are to a couple of times a day, as you said, not to risk overheat welcome dehydration, or just a little bit too much for one day. >> reporter: the humanitarian group has been at the forefront in the fight against ebola, with about 3,000 volunteers already working in guinea, sierra leone, and liberia. but now officials with the charity say they're reaching their limit, and urgently need other groups to step up efforts against the deadly disease. >> we still, a very slow and week capacity of other actors, including state actors, including military organization actors, like w.h.o., like united nation and so on. i mean, they are deploying as we speak, but we still don't see the result in the field. >> reporter: according to reports, 18 msf workers have

contracted the virus in west africa, 10 have reportedly died. psychologist karla urate is preparing to leave for sierra leone next month. >> i'm a big scared of what i will be seeing, because i know there's a lot of human suffering that i will be witnessing. and i'm also scared for our staff, because my colleagues will be going back to homes in which their family members might be dying and i know that some of our colleagues die. >> reporter: and despite the risk, many msf volunteers who have been to west africa before say they want to go back, to save more lives. jonathan mann, cnn. >> incredibly heroic. well, are america's doctors and nurse who are treating ebola patients getting the same kind of preparation? donna gallagher is a nurse and director of public health at the university of massachusetts medical center. and donna, you've traveled to liberia multiple times. you traveled with dr. richard

sacra who contracted the ebola. some health care workers in the united states say they are not trained or prepared the way you've been trained and prepared. does more need to be done? >> well, i think there's always more that needs to be done, because as much training as we've had, ebola is not something that we see in the united states. so, yes, all health care workers need to have the extra level of training that's required to be sure that this type of a virus does not get transmitted and you've seen all of the procedures that msf is using. and they have had a great deal of success, and of course, we have had the two cases of the nurses. so, yes, it's always important to get the training out and, you know, my background is hiv and, it's a similar case that we saw when hiv first came on the scene. we needed to rapidly get out and

train nurses who always represent the front line when something like this occurs. and they were able to quickly pick up the universal precautions and successfully treat and provide compassionate care for people living with hiv and i have every reason to believe they can do that for ebola. >> you heard from the doctor, doctors without borders, and he said that the world health organization, the united nations, you know, they're finally sort of up and running, but they're still not there. plus, even governments themselves are having a hard time mobilizing people to do this work. and so a huge burden is being put, really, on a very few. why do you think there has been such a time delay in getting necessary resources there? >> well, you know, again, particularly west africa has never really had the tools they needed to protect themselves against infectious diseases. it's always been a concern, when we travel, we always bring our

own ppes to be sure that we have some, and leave whatever was not used and share while we're there. >> the protective equipment? >> yeah, so our colleagues can have the benefit of protective equipment. so, you know, there's not going to be -- it isn't as though there'll be a few shipments and they'll have what they need. this is going to be an ongoing problem for quite a while. >> yeah, exactly. and there were a couple hundred specialists before the outbreak. now a lot more people being trained and gearing up. all right, donna gallagher, thank you so much. we appreciate your insights on that. >> thank you. and coming up, new reports of evidence emerging in the shooting death of michael brown. our legal team breaks down what it means and why it could actually back up officer darren wilson's side of the story.

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just moments ago, the governor of ohio spoke to reporters about the threat of the virus in the state. health officials are monitoring 16 people there who were in the vicinity of ebola patient amber vinson, who had gone there for her wedding party to try on bridal dresses. well, cnn's susan candiotti is in akron, ohio. susan, does ohio seem to have the situation under control? the governor just held a presser, what did he say? >> reporter: well, we learned, actually, that the number of contacts that amber vinson had has now been widened. you just mentioned the number was 16, including her stepfat r stepfather, with whom he was staying, and he is under a close watch quarantine, because he had the most contact with her, and the other people were being self-monitored at the direction of the health department. none of them, we want to stress, exhibiting ebola-like symptoms. all of them in good health. however, we have learned new numbers and they are these. they tell us that they have now increased the number of contacts

to 29 from 16, in terms of people who had some contact with amber vinson, either at her house or at the bridal shop that she visited one week ago today. now, in addition to that, for the first time, we are hearing hard numbers of how people ohio is labeling as contacts of amber vinson on an airplane. and that is 87 people so far. again, these are people who had different tiers of contact with her. they might have sat on different sections of the plane, some close, some far away. all of them have been simply asked by the health department to self-monitor themselves. none is exhibiting any symptoms at all at this time. governor kasich wanted to make that point. listen. >> this is not a reason for people to say, my goodness, everything is growing, okay? it's not a reason for people to say, it's getting more serious. what this is a reason to say

that health officials, helped by the cdc, are making sure that anyone who could possibly have come in contact are going to be contacted and judged on the basis of the risk that they may pose. so these numbers are going to go up. the numbers are going to go down, okay? but the bottom line is, everyone's being checked. >> reporter: and also, the governor wanted to make the point that they have wider protocols in the state of ohio. so that the definition, "contact," now applies to people who maybe were simply in the room, but have very low risk of ever showing any symptoms at any time. but important to raise these points and announce these new numbers. deb? >> yeah, there's no question. people can be exposed. it doesn't mean they're necessarily going to be infa infected. and the other thing that strikes me is how young these nurses

were, one, 26, one, 29. susan candiotti, appreciate it. today we are hearing more on the case of the missouri teen shot dead by a police officer in august, prompting weeks of unrest as you may remember. a new "new york times" report gives details that have not been heard before, including evidence inside the officer's car and his version of events, according to "the new york times." we want to bring our legal team, richard herman, avery friedman. we're short on time. let's get right to this. we're hearing very strong evidence now that there were bullet holes inside of the car,s that there was blood on the officer, meaning direct contact. richard, how do you think this new evidence is going to affect this case? >> deb, first of all, there's no evidence yet in this case, because the only evidence is what's going to be presented in court and subject to testing by cross-examination. but what we are hearing multiple different versions and we're hearing versions that tend to corroborate some of the stories that are coming out of the police department. if that's the case, deb, as a criminal defense attorney, when

you hear multiple different stories and multiple different accounts, what does that do? that makes you pause for a moment, to reflect. you're not sure. that's reasonable doubt. the more multiple stories that come in, the better chance of an acquittal here, just like trayvon martin in the zimmerman case. >> and that's the interesting thing. even, no matter how many eyewitness accounts you hear, all of it is from a very distinct, limited perspective. what they saw at an exact moment. the grand jury has to piece all of that together. wilson, if you read "the new york times," he was trying to leave his car when brown shoved him back in, pinned him inside. he says that brown tried to grab for his gun. that made him fear for his safety. you know, avery, do you believe that there could potentially not be an indictment once the grand jury looks at all of this? >> well, the interesting thing about "the times" article, a front-page article, we're really dealing with two forums. number one, we're dealing with a state grand jury consideration,

which has been going on for two months. that's a possibility. the other issue that the article made clear, whether or not it's corroborated, there are unnamed officials, not identified in the article, that talk about whether or not there's going to be a civil rights claim coming out of washington. >> never happen. >> so we have two different forms, two different formums, to different kinds of cases. the question is, is there probable cause? that's what's going to be considered in both forums. so this detonates some very, very explosive information that's generating a lot of emotion right now. >> richard, what are your thoughts on that? >> my thoughts are this. the officer went to the grand jury and testified. that rarely happens when you're a target in a criminal -- in a proposed criminal defendant in a case. he testified for four hours in front of that grand jury. now, the burden of proof at trial, beyond a reasonable doubt, is a much higher standard than what's required in a grand jury to indict. but if there were so many

conflicting versions coming in this grand jury, the grand jurors will be confused, and you may not get a true bill out of them. >> that's different -- >> yeah -- go ahead, avery. >> that's different than the civil rights considerations. >> that'll never happen. >> which is exactly why the civil rights, they're in there now looking at all of this as well. and look, a lot of people not convinced that there is going to be some sort of an indictment. richard herman, avery friedman, always a pleasure. thank you. >> be well, deb. and this story just developing. there has been another sights of accused cop killer eric frein. now we're waiting for a police press conference. we are live with the very latest. ♪

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well, just niminutes from n, authorities will hold a press conference on the latest lead in the search for suspected cop killer, eric frein. a local law enforcement official has told cnn that frein was spotted by a woman in paradise, pennsylvania, friday night, dressed in black with his face covered in mud and carrying a gun. alexandra field joins me now. you have been out there and following this case. he's described as a survivalist. what are we hearing about the latest about what they've found? >> this could be a significant sighting. it was reported last night by a woman who says she saw this person dressed in black, which is what law enforcement believes

he's been wearing this entire time, his face covered in mud, and she also believes he was carrying a rifle with a scope, which is a weapon that officers believe he has had with him s s since the shooting of two state police officers. in the last six weeks, law enforcement officers have found a number of items with, which they believe belongs to frein. that is what has led them to this search area, including an ak-47. they say they have found a couple of pipe bombs out there. letters, which they say confess to the shooting and describe the subsequent escape. and he's managed to evade them now for some six weeks now, deb. >> which is really incredible, because initially, authorities has said, look, we know you're wearing down, we know you're tired, they found food and confiscated that food. so what does that say about his ability to basically outsmart them on some levels? >> look, from the beginning, there have been these sightings, within a few days of those shootings, there were sightings of frein and they thought they had him in their sights. law enforcement has seen him. he has managed to continue to evade him. and they say the reason is because they have to get a

positive i.d. before they're able to move in on him. we're talking about thickly wooded, dense area where he's been able to navigate his way around them and some of the things he talks about in the letter, actually. >> which is really remarkable. it's going to be one to watch and clearly, he can see them before they can see him, usually. that gives him the ultimate head start. alexandra field, thank you so much. we'll be checking in with you. we are expecting to hear more about that case in a press conference at the top of the hour. we'll bring you that live a right after this. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. don't let non-24 get in the way of your pursuit of happiness.

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hello, everyone. i'm deborah feyerick in for fredricka whitfield. you're in the "cnn newsroom." well, the cdc changes its message again. new guidelines for health care workers who have to treat ebola patients. and -- strong winds, high waves, hurricanes off both american coasts. we will have a live report from hawaii. and more u.s. air strikes in syria and iraq. are they effective and are they stopping the enemy? a crazy past 48 hours and things are still changing when it comes to ebola in america. just a short time ago, the world health organization vowed to

make public a full review of its response to the deadly outbreak in west fraafrican countries. but that report will come once the crisis is under control. and last night a federal official said that the cdc will issue new protective equipment guidelines, in their words, very soon. meanwhile, controversy over the new point man in charge of the u.s. response to ebola. that is intensifying. republicans slamming the white house's decision to appoint ron klain, a former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore. their main issue, klain not a doctor, zero medical experience. we are now going to switch and right now go to a presser that's happening in pennsylvania. you can see everybody gathering there now. this is for the suspected cop killer, eric frein. we have been told that there appears to be a sighting of frein by a woman. she describes him as wearing

black and his face covered in mud. as you know, he has been hiding in the woods after the fatal shooting of one trooper and the serious wounding of another. and authorities have been looking for him for some six weeks there. we are told, obviously, that they're going to update us on the latest. we heard, earlier, from our own alexandra field, who said that among the things that authorities have found include a letter in which he supposedly takes credit for those shootings. we're going to listen in now. we're beginning. >> and i don't think i have to introduce two gentleman on either side of me or the trooper next to us. many people have been asking me across the state of pennsylvania what's going on up here and they've been getting your reports. first off, i want everybody to know, we're not going to rest. the colonel and the rest of the state police and all the federal law enforcement agenciy ies and other state agencies that are

here. and it's not just state law enforcement agencies that are involved, but our people here in pennsylvania and all different agencies are involved, including the game commission is out there. nobody is going to stop until we find this individual and he's apprehended. state police, fbi, atf, marshal service, state police from new jersey, new york, and connecticut have been involved in this. border patrol, i just saw some border patrol agents back in the cafeter cafeteria. everybody has one mission and that one mission is to apprehend this individual. we have our troopers coming in from all across the commonwealth of pennsylvania and it's everybody's goal, mission, and determination to keep their focus on this individual and to find him. we have received countless letters and cards of support. what you see behind me, take a look at it. take a look at them. read them. these are children talking about

this. i just was given a pack of crackers to look at with a note to daddy on it from a child. her daddy, we assume, is a state police officer out in the field, telling him to be safe, but to catch the bad guy. and that's exactly what's going to happen. it is a community, it is a commonwealth, and it is a nation coming together. over somebody who would assassinate a police officer, a state police officer in this case, and who's out there in those woods, woods that he knows very, very well, trying to avoid capture. that's not going to happen. we've received those letters of support, cards of support, and i know we will continue to do it. residents all across northeastern pennsylvania have come together to support our police in ways that we never could have imagined and the state police are thankful for that. we all are. the local restaurants continue

to provide fantastic home-cooked meals and i thank them for their support and their continuing support, and thank them for their patience and understanding as to what goes into this. and i know it might be hurting their bottom line, but we really do appreciate what they're doing. i particularly want to thank bear township fire department and the red cross for providing meals, but more than meals, support, conversation, and a welcome break for our troopers and for everybody involved. their support has been an inspiration to all of o law enforcement. i want to thank the residents, also, and all the communities that have been impacted by the search for eric frein. i know that this has been trying on everybody, but i want to assure them that law enforcement is doing everything we can to bring this to a close, as quickly as we possibly can. i want to applaud the law enforcement effort of the entire community, many of which have traveled from other communities

in pennsylvania to help out here. i know that they are away from their families and for safety reasons, this region has become a focus of everybody's attention. and i want to thank them for their ongoing commitment to help a portion of their state that they may not reside in, but it is our commonwealth. as i said, we will not rest until we apprehend this individual. and we will continue to do that. and now, i do want to thank everybody again for doing this. i've received a pretty full briefing here in the last half hour or so. had a chance to tour the facility. got an update that you are now going to get that update. so i think i turn it over to you next. thank you. >> thank you, all. it's a pleasure to have an opportunity to be here with the governor, and lieutenant colonel bevins to represent the pennsylvania state police and all the law enforcement agencies that are out there working on

this. number one, i would like to thank all the law enforcement agencies throughout pennsylvania and throughout the surrounding states and our federal brothers that are working here, but even more than that, the volunteers. when you think about how dangerous a job this is, going into a woods after a sniper that has also been practicing and you know he's had possession of explosive devices with trip wires, and yesterday my biggest job is telling people we don't need anymore, we will use you later. we have an awful lot of people up here that are very, very dedicated. but my second point would be, it's going on a long time, and i know it's wearing on all of the community and the people. believe me, it wears on us too. and the men and women that i have out in those woods searching for this criminal. what makes it much more tolerable, though, and actually inspiring, is the support we get from this community and from across the state. when me troopers or myself or

colonel bivens, we stop to get gas, there are people honking at us and telling us to go get him. and that's just been -- it's just given us all a sense that we're all in this together, it's all of our problems, and we're all going to solve it. and it means a great deal to all of the men and women in the pennsylvania state police. also means a great deal to the families of the trooper that was killed and also the trooper that was seriously injured. and with that i'll turn it over to colonel bivens who will give us an update on where we are. >> thank you. good afternoon. in the way of an update, as i've indicated right from the beginning, our search area remains very fluid and is based on the information that we have available to us at any given time. colonel, based on the information developed over the past several days, our search area is now focused slightly south and in the swift water

area in paradise and pocono townships. for the past week, we have had no additional sightings of frein, but one possible sighting was reported slightly south of our current search area earlier this past week. just this past night, overnight, we had a sighting to which we are assigning a high level of credibility. it was reported in the area of the pocono mountain east high school. the individual's description was consistent with frein and he was obvioused carrying a rifle. the individual's face was covered with mud, so a positive identification could not be made. a search of that area is ongoing as we speak. we know that frein is familiar with this area, as he attended pocono mountain east high school. he also worked briefly at sanofi and also work ee eed several su at camp mensy to the west of that area. as you are also aware, on

thursday, homeowners at two locations in the crestco area reported finding blood in two areas on their back porches. there have been samples collected. we expect to have the results later tonight or early tomorrow. at this point, we are also asking residents to continue to be vigilant and i'll remind them of the tip line number of 866-326-7256 or simply call 911 if they see anything suspicious. and i believe if it's okay with you, governor, we'll open it up to questions. >> we'll take some questions. >> there's been really no talk of motive since this whole thing started. i was wondering if you could expand on that. >> that's all been part of the ongoing investigation, and so in deference to the potential prosecution, we have not really discussed motive other than, we know that he has had a dislike of law enforcement for a very extended period of time and he's

talked to people about that and we found documents that support that, but beyond that, we're really not theorizing at this point on any other motive. >> trooper alex, he's been released from the hospital. has he made any comments? have you talked to him since he's been released? >> i have spoken with him, but i would characterize those conversations as private. he is in good spirits and is doing well and we certainly wish the best for him in his long road to recovery. >> you found blood in enclosed porches in two different homes? >> we found what was reported as blood. we have testing to confirm that it is blood on at least one of those locations. i'm waiting for the testing on another, and beyond that, we'll do further testing to determine whether or not it's realitiedyi related this investigation. >> do we know if he's injured? >> we'll have a better idea once

we get the results of this testing. >> you said it was reported that -- [ inaudible ] >> okay. >> one of the studies, someone reported that the suspect was seen limping. do we have any confirmation of that or anything? >> no. at this point, we would be speculating about any other injuries, so, you know, we're really just going on the assumption he is still mobile and capable of making his way through the woods. >> how many miles is that from where he had been to the latest sighting? >> from some of the other items that we had found, i would say five or six miles, roughly. so it's not a tremendous area. certainly doable for an individual like him. >> and when was he seen? >> last night was the most recent sighting. >> about what time? >> a little after 9:00 last evening. >> and are you still searching? >> no, we're still searching.

again, you know, we don't put all of our resources at just one location. as i've said all along, we were searching, we have a primary search area, but we've always searched much further out and, you know, even into other states, depending on the tips or the information that we had, but, you know, our concern is that he is able to move, and so we wouldn't want to just focus on one particular area and risk missing him elsewhere. i think we've kept a tremendous amount of pressure on him and i think that likely had some bearing on where he's at now. assuming that it is him. >> let the lady in the back. she's been trying. >> yes, ma'am? >> the last news conference, you mentioned some additional items had been found. can you tell us what they were or where they were found and has a trail of evidence also moved south and has there been another camp site found? >> we do not have another confirmed camp site.

there were some items found, there is still testing pending on some of those items, so i cannot confirm at this point that they are related to him. as you can imagine, when you move through a large forested area, in some cases you'll find items that have been discarded by other people, so we process those scenes, take that evidence in and get it to the lab. in many cases, we're still waiting for some results. >> how do you determine which themes are credible? are you getting more tips or less tips -- >> what's going on right now, you are looking at a live press conference. they've sort of hit the main poisons a couple of moments ago. they're looking for sniper and alleged cop killer, eric frein. they say that they believe that he was sighted in a secondary area, about six to seven miles from the one that they had originally been looking in, that there were some homes where they found blood. that blood now being tested to see whether or not, it's hit. i want to bring in alexandra field. first of all, the area that we're talking about, it's

actually not so far from where he was believed to be hiding out. but he is moving south a little bit. so, what is being suggested right now? >> okay, you did hear law enforcement say that this area continues to shift. and it's something that we saw when we were on the ground out there. they've been predominantly focused on an area that's about two square wooded miles. this area where they've now moved to, six or seven miles away from there, as you've just pointed out, but they've identified a larger search area throughout the course of this six-week long search. that area, about 200 square miles. they're focusing on a very dense, wooded area. so based on the sightings, they can move their assets in. now they say he may have seen in an area near the high school that he once attended. so a few miles farther south. but this is the kind of thing that we see them doing. they move their manpower as they have reason to. if they discover, say, a possession in the woods or if there is a reported sighting, in this case we now, just last night, a very incredible sighting, dressed in black, believed to be carrying a rifle

with a scope on it. that certainly fits the description. >> and the interesting thing is, he really does appear that he is going to areas that are very familiar with him. areas that he likely had practice hiding out in. maybe he's even stockpiled things. you have been covering this for weeks, you have been out in that area. what has really struck you about what it is he's carrying and what it appears he seems to be doing. this has become almost this sort of hide and seek game that he's doing with hundreds of officers. >> and it's something that we've heard from law enforcement. they have said, this is a game for him. early on in the investigation, they recovered a hard drive, which indicated to them that he had been planning this for a long time. they also found writings in the woods, which they say belonged to him, that he had talked about this escape plan, that he had mapped out, in talking about this act of disappearing. it's something that he's clearly engaged in. but what's really striking when you're out there is the home court advantage that eric frein has. you know, a lot of people have stood back and said, how is it, we've had a thousand law

enforcement officers out there, how can we not close in on him? when you get a chance to drive around these areas and go through these woods, you really are struck by the fact that this is such a dense area and secluded area, there are bear caves in the area, this is terrain he really knows. >> even when he they do find something, it doesn't necessarily lead them to the next place, they just know that he was there, day don't even know when. alexandra field, thank you so much. we'll be checking back with you a little bit later on to find out what else exactly they said at this press conference. but they really want to catch this man. he has been out there now for some six weeks. you've been out there for a while too. >> and definitely wearing on the community. >> and they have really stepped up to the plate to give all of these officers support. alexandra, thank you so much. appreciate that. well, next, have officials done enough to protect the public from ebola in america? an infectious disease doctor weighs in. you're driving along,

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president obama's choice to lead the battle against ebola in the u.s. is well known in washington circles for his administrative skills. but for ron klain, well, he's got no medical background, he's not a doctor, nothing, zilch. and that's actually creating an uproar, especially from republicans. let's bring in erin mcpike at the white house. erin, the administration is standing behind its pick? >> reporter: deb, they are. in fact, white house press secretary josh ernest said in a briefing yesterday, the white house did not want an ebola, they wanted a expert. the white house does not have particularly good relationships on capitol hill, and if at some point the white house needs to have more funding, claimed relationships could be helpful there. they also point out that he has managerial experience in government. you may remember klain from 2009, after congress passed the

stimulus package. the administration tapped klain to oversee the distribution of that stimulus funding. that was unpopular with republicans, but valuable experience for klain. >> one of klain's challenges will be tamping down fear. the person who is the czar is going to have assuage all americans and say, it's okay, we've got this covered. how big of a part is all of that? >> well, it's a very big part. so far, the white house has used some trial and error in their messaging, over the past couple of months, we've heard from a number of administration officials who have said, look, the u.s. has one of the most advanced health care systems in the world and can handle a couple of cases of ebola. although that did not go particularly well in dallas. but just last week, president obama also said that ebola is scary. well, this weekend, he's trying to strike a balance. listen here to some of the comments he made in his weekly address. >> this is a serious disease, but we can't give in to his

ste hysteria or fear. we have to be guided by the science. we have to remember the basic facts. first, whatwear seeing now is not an outbreak or an epidemic of ebola in america. we're a nation of more than 300 million people. to date, we've seen three cases of ebola diagnosed here. the man who contracted the disease in liberiberia came herd sadly died. the two courageous nurses who were infected while they were treating him. our thoughts and prayers are with them. before this is over, we may see more isolated cases here in america, but we know how to wage this fight. >> so, again, they're reiterating that an outbreak in the united states is highly unlikely, deb. >> all right. and the president coming out strong on that. it will also be very interesting to see ron klain, his first appearance before the public and how he's received then.

erin mcpike at the white house for us. thank you. appreciate it. and for the first time, we're hearing from one of the dallas doctors who treated all three ebola patients, including the liberian man, thomas eric duncan. let's go live to dallas and cnn's elena move cachado. this is dr. gary weinstein. he says his team did everything they could to save duncan's life. >> reporter: that's exactly right, deb. dr. winestein made those remarks during an interview with cnn affiliate, wfaa. and in that interview, the reporter also asked dr. winestein about allegations that duncan did not receive the best care because he didn't have health insurance and also because of his race, because he was black. listen to what dr. winestein had to say about that. >> i find that remarkably insulting. that's -- i don't know how better to describe that.

the team here worked their tails off trying to save his life. >> do you think you tried everything you could? >> yes. >> do you think he could not be saved? >> yes, he was too sick. >> what was your reaction when -- did you know he was dying? and that it was imminent? >> it was very, very quick. he was critically ill and unstable and over a period of minutes, he lost his pulse and was dead. >> reporter: now, in the wfaa interview, dr. winestein was also asked about allegaions that teams were not given proper

equipment to protect themselves. his response to that was that team members were given everything they asked for. deb? >> all right. you can clearly see the emotion in his voice and the toll it's taken on everybody, now that all their efforts are being second-guessed. alina machado, thank you so much, appreciate that. and two hurricanes are barreling through the oceans on either side of the united states. dan simon live in hawaii, where one of those storms is expected to hit. dan? >> well, hi, deborah. it is a beautiful day in paradise. the surfers are out. it looks like hurricane ana is going to stay offshore, but the rains are coming. we'll have a live update just after the break.

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not one, but two hurricanes are roaring through oceans on both sides of the united states. in the atlantic, hurricane gonzalo made a direct hit on bermuda, downing trees and flooding streets. 80% of people there without power. and in the pacific, hurricane ana is expected to narrowly miss hawaii, but may bring floods and even mud slides. that's where our dan simon is live at waikiki beach.

dan, they never send you to hawaii when the weather is nice. where could this storm hit? >> reporter: well, hi, deborah. good weather, bad weather, it's always good to be in the state of hawaii. there are certainly worse assignments. i want to get that out of the way, because, deb, i know that's what you're thinking. but in terms of the storm, let me show you the honolulu advertiser, i think this just sums it up, "ana churns past isles." that is the good news, the storm staying south of the state of hawaii. that said, you could see some significant winds and some rain and some flooding in certain areas. but i have to tell you, when you talk to tourists and locals alike, they're not too concerned. take a look. what do you think about the storm coming? >> i don't think so much about it. i'm not afraid of it. >> kind of scary, but the locals are telling us that it's no big deal, it happens all the time. they get warnings like this. so -- >> so you're not worried this is going to mess up your vacation? >> no. hopefully not.

>> it's going to approach and stay south of here. >> not too worried about it? >> no. >> this one, i'm hoping is just going to go out to sea and off into la laland, but not hurt the island. >> reporter: well, as you can see, that is the calm pacific ocean and looking pretty good right now. you can see a few surfers out, but i can tell you that about 6:00 local time, the rains are expected to come. but this could actually be a very good day for surfers. there's going to be an increase in waves. you're going to see a lot of activity, but, of course, when you start seeing lots of wind, they are expressing caution. they don't want too many people out on the water during that time. deb? >> excellent. and clearly the hotels are ready and there are emergency plans in place in the event it does change gears. dan simon, thank you. enjoy the beach. and coming up, new reports of evidence in the shooting death of michael brown. our legal team breaks down what it means and why it could actually back up officer darren wilson's side of the story.

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if i didn't already have ebola, i may get it by being there, by having a doctor cross contaminate between patients. by having an incompetent infectious control department, but having incompetent cdc leadership there, absolutely. >> and texas health presbyterian responded to us saying, quote, we have conducted interviews with woefrl 100 caregivers involved involved in mr. duncan's care, some multiple times. the consistent and universal theme we heard is that all caregivers reported being consistently compliant the utilizing the personal protective equipment in compliance with the cdc. the cdc guidelines changed frequently and those guidelines were frustrating to them and to management. and if anyone has taken the brunt of this, it was cdc chair, tom frieden. frieden, who has said that they could contain this disease,

assured everyone his agency knows how to handle this. >> we know how to control ebola. even in this period, even in nigeria, we've been able to contain the outbreak. >> so the question, are all americans hospital ready? joining me now, dr. tradition pearl, a senior epidemiologist at job hopkins hospital and also a consultant for john hopkins office of critical event preparedness and response. so, when you look -- look, the one thing that's impressed me is just how young these two nurses who did contract the illness, how young they are. do you believe that they were trained and had the experience to properly deal with something this deadly, this devastating? >> so, i can't really respond to exactly how these nurses were trained, but what i can tell you is that it is critical that we take lessons learned from this

particular event and make sure that we process and train all of our health care workers appropriately moving forward. >> so, what are the lessons that you are seeing? you're one who deals in this area, looking at everything, what are the top two or three recommendations you would make at this moment? >> so, first of all, i think we have to really make sure that we can screen for these patients appropriately and identify any patients or other individuals that may have exposures that are of note and importance. two, we need to make sure that these patients get appropriately isolated when they come into health care facilities. and three, then we need to make sure that our health care workers are appropriately trained and also feel comfortable using the personal protectivity equipment that is recommended by the center for disease control. >> so if i'm hearing what you're

saying, identify, isolate, equip quickly, as quickly as you possibly can, correct? >> equip and train. >> because without the training, obviously, you can have a gown, you can put it on, you can take it off, but it's still not going to protect you. >> exactly. >> i think this is a very, very complicated process and certainly the recommendations are more complicated than we use day to day in any health care setting. so this is very much like driving a car. we wouldn't put somebody on a highway right away when we taught them to drive. we would make sure that they know how to go through the process, so they feel comfortable and safe doing that. >> it really actually impressed me how we're treating a disease that is sort of endemic to west africa here with modern medicine and how we're learning, we're looking at west africa to see how we should be treating here. very interesting. dr. trish pearl, thank you so much. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. and one woman knows all too well what those two dallas nurses, nina pham and amber

vinson are going through. nancy writebol contracted ebola while working with the aid group serving a mission in liberia. she was flown to the u.s. where she ultimately recovered. i spoke to nancy and her husband, david, earlier today, about how scared americans are with just a few cases in the u.s. i got their reaction to that after seeing so many more cases in west africa and also their reaction to vinson getting on a flight after caring for an ebola patient. take a listen. >> surrounding ebola, there's a great deal of fear, because it's a very deadly disease. a and so some of the things we saw and reactions we saw relating to the fear that we saw in west africa, and we're seeing that here and so, yeah, it's surprising, in a way, because our health care system is so much more well put together, but yet people are the same, or seem to be the same. >> if you have to ask the

question, should i be flying given i've been exposed to somebody who may have had ebola or who did have ebola, excuse me, do you think, perhaps she should not have gone, simply, period? >> well, i think that she -- i mean, they probably responded to the situation as it was at the current moment. and at that moment, you know, when she traveled, her fever was not elevated to the level that cdc was recommending that he not travel. so, i mean, you can live your life in fear and in hiding, but there is a point where it is important that, you know, in those 21 days, i think, that you have to be very, very cautious. >> thanks again to nancy and david writebol for joining us earlier. i'm struck by the images of

amber vinson, a young bride getting ready for her wedding. all right, well, u.s. war planes. and those u.s. war planes continue to pan isis positions in syria and iraq today. the pace of the air strikes, slow eer than earlier this week but have helped slow the advance of isis fighters in kobani. today's strikes focused on isis oil facilities as well as military targets. >> the enemy has made a decision to make kobani his main effort. and what you've seen him do in the last several days is continue to pour manpower into that effort. now, my goal is to defeat and ultimately destroy isil. and if he continues to present us with major targets, as he has done, in the kobani area, then, clearly, we'll service those targets and we've done so very, very effectively here as of late, as you've mentioned. >> but general ralston says it will still take time to eliminate the group. let's bring in our own military

expert, retired lieutenant colonel tony schaefer, a former intelligence officer in the u.s. army. what do you think of isis now having these fighter jets? you say you're not really all that concerned, but could bit a threat? >> no. as much as i agree with general austin, this is something that he has an opportunity to destroy, we need to be very careful here on what words we use to describe the threat. and i think this is way overblown. let's remember that these folks are affected by the fact they have former members of the bath party, saddam hussein's former regime, and probably have people who flew these russian-made aircraft, but to fly one of these -- for one hour of flight, you're talking about 100 hours of maintenance. so even if they get them off the ground and train someone, ojt, on the job training, they have never gone through the simulators, don't know how to jig and go back and forth against our fighters.

i think it's way overblown. i think if they get these pilots up in the air, they'll go up, be up for about a minute, and auger into the ground. >> the more interesting thing also is that iraqi pilots are the ones that will be doing the training. but there's no real evidence to that effect, correct? >> i agree with you. there's no clear evidence. again, there are bath party members who have now joined isis, who are very effective in the saddam hussein military maintaining that military. with that said, that military had a nation state behind it. you had logistics, you had a lot of support, you had the ability to train pilots. you don't have that now. general austin, the if he sees a jet being fueled by isis, he's going to blow it up. i don't think this will be a realistic approach for the isis folks to increase their ability to construct military operations. >> and you really don't even need to blow up the fighter planes, just blow up the runways, correct? >> that's correct. and right now we do own the air.

beyond air superiority, we have air dominance. we can do anything we want in the air at this point in time. i don't think there's any credible threat, except maybe surface-to-air missiles, which we do have ability to deal, that could create any kind of concern by our aviators in any form, in the current format of military operations. >> yesterday the administration came out and said that, in fact, they had made, they had succeeded in at least stalling the advancement of isis. do you believe that it has been effective? >> yes, deb, they have been effective in slowing it down. they have decreased the rate of increase, if you will. kobani is a -- general austin said this too. it's what we call a meeting engagement. this is where the enemy has decided they're going to make a concerted effort to take and hold terrain. that being said, where they're at, we will not be able to get them out of. even with the kurds going in there and trying to keep them out of the city center and keep them safe, unless we have the turkish army, essential boots on

the ground, we're not going to be able to push them back out. and the concern is, deb wit, ify establish from kobani down to baghdad, they've established a long swath that they will maintain control of until someone walks and you shalled. th >> so if you were in charge of the strategy, how would you stop isis? >> three things, increase the tempo of the air strikes, probably by about two to three times. secondly, we need to engage more directly with the syrians and some of the christian iraqis as well as the kurds. we have a fighting force already available to us. we need to arm and train them. the iraqi's central government has been reluctant to give the military gear that we left behind in iraq to the kurds because they're afraid they may become independent and create their own country. i'm not saying that's not a concern, i'm saying if we want to beat isis, we have to do those two things. let the boots on the ground that we have available to us, arm them and get them going. >> but the iraqi army not

committing to actually joining together to undergo training. a lot of infighting there as well. lieutenant colonel tony schaefer, always a pleasure. thank you so much. we'll check some other top stories making news right now. the u.s. supreme court said today that texas can go ahead with its controversial voter i.d. law. that's just two days before early voting starts in that state. critics say the law, which requires photo identification, could possibly disenfranchise minority voters. supporters say it will prevent voter fraud. federal courts have struck down gay marriage bans in arizona, alaska, wyoming. an arizona federal judge called the state's ban, quote, unconstitutional by virtue of the fact that they deny same-sex couples the equal protection of the law. there are now 32 states where gay marriage is legal. well, things have not been very easy for president obama in his second term. that doesn't just apply to his work. listen to this story he told yesterday as he signed an order

to protect americans from identity theft. >> i should mention, by the way, that i went to a restaurant up in new york when i was there for the general assembly and my credit card was rejected. turns out, i guess, i don't use it enough, so they thought there was some fraud going on. fortunately, michelle had hers. i was trying to explain to the waitress, you know, i really think that i've been paying my bill. >> that's pretty funny. he doesn't use his credit card enough for anyone to think that it's actually a serious purchase. he said he used michelle's credit card and that worked fine and told the waiter that he is absolutely sure he's paying his bills. there's nothing wrong with his income. well, coming up, there's only a few cases of ebola in the united states, but the panic and the fear is, in fact, spreading much faster than the actual virus. next, we will talk to a doctor

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"the new york times" reports that forensic tests show that blood from ferguson, missouri, shooting victim michael brown was on the police car of the officer who shot him. "the times" reports that brown's

blood was also found on officer darren wilson's gun and the paper says the officer told investigators that brown hit him repeatedly, leaving bruises on his face and his neck. brown's august 9th death prompted weeks of protests in the streets of ferguson. nick valencia has the latest. >> reporter: this is a new report from "the new york times" that cnn has not been a able to independently verify, but it seems to fall in line with what officer darren wilson has maintained a all along, that there was a physical struggle in that police cruiser and that the gun went off. physical evidence shows the that michael brown was shot in the arm at least once while inside that police cruiser. it goes on to say that his blood was found on the gun, officer darren wilson's uniform wells the police cruiser. the newspaper cites an unnamed government official with knowledge of the investigation. as you can imagine, the reaction to this new report from "the new york times" has varied. officer darren wilson's supporters have maintained all along that he was justified in his shooting and that he needed

to fatally shoot mike brown, because he feared for his own safety. meanwhile, mike brown supporters are not buying this report. they say it's just another excuse to let officer darren wilson off the hook and they say they fear for the safety of st. louis. they believe that the riots in august were just a practice round and that there will be even further riots, bigger riots throughout the city of st. louis, if officer wilson is not indicted. nick valencia, cnn, dallas, texas. >> the report also shows there were apparently two bullet holes inside that police cruiser. now, there are only a handful of medical centers in the u.s. that have special label isolation facilities. the president says this not an outbreak or an epidemic, there are only three cases. but what happens if the nation's hospitals are stretched too thin. now dr. ali khan joins us from omaha. the national institutes of health, emory university in atlanta, all can treat ebola

patients, but if there are more cases, it's pretty safe to say that they could be stretched pretty thin. >> that's exactly true. i think what wave seen with these last two individuals who were infected here in the united states, that if you have an option, you're best served sending them to a leading academic medical center such as the university of nebraska medical center. it takes care of a couple of things of you. one, you're assured of thorough and meticulous infection control that will protect the patients, health care workers, and community. you're assured of extraordinary medicine in taking care of patients. you want to make sure they can do as best as possible. and the final thing is that you're assured that those lessons will be used to educate the rest of the medical community. however, that's not an excuse. every hospital in the united states has to be prepared. because you never know, someone may show up in the emergency room and not know that they've already been infected with

ebola. so the health care has to make sure that they can protect them there, and they may be too sick to transport. >> and you know, that's interesting, because that's exactly what happened with the first person, liberian, mr. duncan. and interestingly, texas presbyterian medical center, part of the problem was that apparently 80 health care people had to basically, are now being monitored, and they were taken out of sort of the general population of treatment, which means that the staff there was taxed even more. so does it make sense, simply, to make sure we are funneling each patient to hospitals that really know how to do this. so it doesn't undermine the nation's hospitals. >> that's the optimal strategy, but you always don't necessarily have that option, and so i think we need to think about a couple of things. one is, how can you export the nebraska medicine model to the rest of the hospitals here in the united states, so that they can be thinking about infection

control, management of the patient, the nursing care, the environment, all the environmental health issues, the laboratory issues, the communication issues, making sure that they have an incident management, emergency management system. how do we sort of export this nebraska medicine approach elsewhere, and then how are we making sure that we're supporting hospitals. so for example, we've cut the hospital preparedness program in the united states by $100 million in the last year. and then the hospitals are half of the picture, the other half is the public health system. and we've cut funding to the public health system, at least for public health preparedness, which is something i'm quite familiar with, with over 40% over the last decade. so to protect our communities, we need to make sure that the hospitals are doing their job and make sure that the public health is prepared also. >> yeah, there's no question. and arguably, you don't know what you need until you actually need it. and all that money was necessary after 9/11 and people thought there would be some sort of

bioterrorism attack. now we're sort of seeing the closest thing on some levels to that. and it's been very difficult for hospitals to at least contain. doctor ali khan, thank you so much. >> thank you very much. . and hello, everyone. i'm deborah feyerick in for fredricka whitfield. you are here with us in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with new details on the ebola threat in america. the number of people being monitored for the deadly virus in ohio just rose from 16 to 29. that's the number being monitored. health officials say that these people came into contact with amber vinson, the second dallas nurse who contracted ebola. also today, a promise from the world health organization.

they have vowed to make public a full review of their response to the deadly ebola outbreak in west african countries. but that is going to happen, that report, which will be very informative, will happen after the crisis is under control. and just last night, a federal official said that the cdc will issue new protective equipment guidelines, in their words, very soon. there's been a lot made over whether the protective gear was sufficient. let's go to cnn's susan candiotti in akron, ohio. and susan, just a short time ago, news broke that the number of people being monitored has grown again. what have you learned? >> right. well, most importantly, we should start off by saying, once again, there are no cases of ebola being cited by officials in ohio, nor is anyone exhibiting any ebola-like symptoms in the state of ohio. now, they are, however, saying that they are increasing the number of people who they say have had some level of contact