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institute for democracy and eltoral assistance. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. >> hello. i'm debra in for fredericka whitfield. you're in the cnn newsroom, and these are our stories topping the news this hour. a big announcement on how our government plans to protect americans from ebola here at home. the pentagon and our troops are now getting involved. details straight ahead. the search for hannah graham called off after human remains are found on an abandoned property. what police are now saying about the investigation. plus, riots take over a family hiking festival. the violence so terrifying that some people were afraid to leave
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their homes. >> i want to bring in nn pentagon correspondent, brash are a starr. she's on the phone now. president obama has said that -- what are these strike teams designed to do. >> well, what we're talking about here is the department of health and human services as we said to the pentagon, we may need help. the pentagon responded and now has -- is in the process of assembling. some are calling it a quick strike team. some are calling it a rapid response team. this is the team for the first time of military medical professionals. it will go to houston, texas, get trained up within the next couple of days, and be ready to
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deploy the team, 30 people, is going to be made up of 20 and five so-called trainers. people in the military who are very highly trained. a personal protective equipment, how do you compliant with the procedures so it helps workers that are protected in more cases erupt from health care workers getting the virus. they are to be ready to deploy. for the first time now we have people traveling to west africa, and for the fitter first time
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now we're seeing things being put in place for military personnel to help here in the united states if and when they get ordered to go. debra. >> barbara, these five doctors, 20 nurses, and these affected compliance trainers, have they been trained to work together? >> this is just all really emerged in the last hour or so. my sources say they will go to this military base in texas. very rapidly they're identifying the people now. they will get trained up. they will very quickly learn to work together as a team. that is what the u.s. military
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does. this country really hasn't dealt with this sort of issue recently at least, and so everybody is a little bit learning on the job. the military has one critical advantage, which is -- people will tell you is if this erupts into a full-blown crisis, they can assemble large numbers of personnel equipment, aircraft, medical capability, and move it anywhere in the country very quickly that it might be needed. it's the one part of the united states government that can just really respond very, very quickly, and so they hope they're not going to get called into action, but they will be ready to go if they do. >> yeah. absolutely. it's sort of a very big if. if more cases are diagnosed, the equivalent effectively of
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military boots on the ground, but, barbara, is there any suggestion as to where these doctors and nurses would operate out of? would they be given hospital privileges, for example? would they work in tan dem with doctors who are treating individuals? is this about quarantine? have they given you any further -- i know it's just new, and are you breaking this news on our air. is there any specifics or logistics of how this works, what it looks like? >> well, all i can tell you is legally in the united states the united states military, the active duty force, always -- if they are called to do something in the united states, legally they are always in support of civilian authorities, whether it's a city that may be having a flood or a state that's fighting a wildfire, or a medical crisis that the federal government and state governments are trying to fight, so they will be in support of civilian medical authority. they will go -- if they are
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ordered, they'll go where they're asked to go. there's no military marshall law in play here. we don't know how all those issues will be worked out. what we do know is over the last several days the president has been meeting with his advisors. all the portions of the federal governme
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government. >> obviously adding a new and additional layer of peace of mind to a public, very skittish as it is. barbara starr, thanks for breaking that news for us. we appreciate that. >> and a cruise ship carrying a passenger who may have had contact with ebola. that cruise ship now back in texas after police in mexico said, no, i would not allow it to dock in their countries. cnn's alina joins us now from dallas. the passenger is a dallas hospital lab worker. she was a supervisor. she may have had contact with the test samples from the man, thomas eric duncan, first person to be diagnosed and die from ebola here in the u.s. she did spend most of her vacation in isolation. what are you learning now about what happened, when that cruise ship arrived, and where she's at? >> well, we know shs, as you mentioned, now back in texas after the cruise ship, the carnival magic, arrived a few hours ago. according to galveston county health officials, the woman and her travel partner did not have
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any restrictions when they were getting off that ship for two reasons. number one, because she did not have any symptoms of an active ebola infection and because of some blood tests that were conducted by the state. dwoent know what the results of those blood tests are, but based on the fact that they didn't put any restrictions on her, we can assume they're negative for any ebola infection. it's worth mentioning this woman is among the 48 people whose 21-day monitoring period is expected to end by midnight tonight. >> texas health resources issued an apology, an open letter, to the community the discovery said the two nurses complied with the cdc guidelines. what is going on here both with
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the apology and what the cruise ship is saying? >> well, the apology was published in the paper this morning. i want to get right to part of that statement. it says based on what we already know, i can tell you that many of the theories and allegations being presented in the media do not align with facts stated in the medical record and the accounts of care gives who were present on the scene. we have remained xhiltd committed to complying with cdc guideline from the start. they comply with the cdc guidelines and implemented them diligently and we now know new guidelines are expected to be issued very, very soon. >> alina for us there in texas. thank you so much. we'll check in with you a little while again. now to some potentially devastating news for the family and friends of missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. 35 days after the 18-year-old graham was last seen in downtown charlottesville, police from
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nearby chesterfield county have found human remains on an abandoned property that was about eight miles away from where she disappeared. gene casarez joins me. forensic tests must still be done, but we understand that her mom and dad have been told about the discovery and that police have called off the search for hannah. why do they believe it is this young woman? >> they are want publically saying they believe it's hannah graham, but as i say, let's look at the facts, and those facts that you just said, i think, speak volumes. let me tell you what's happening today. this is a very active crime scene in this area. we understand 25 officials are down in this area where remains were found combing the area for any official evidence. one of our photojournalists, ashley, saw a rake being used, which is not uncommon in a scene like this. especially when you have skeletal remains, because the evidence, the potential evidence, can be very fine, very small, so a rake can pick it up or even a sift. now, we've been told by law
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enforcement that this active crime scene will keep going for at least the next couple of days, but the question is what is the identification of those remains? we do know that the chief medical examiner, which is found in richmond, virginia, that his office will be receiving the remains. they will do the autopsy. i think a lot of questions remain, though. we can find no confirmation of when that autopsy will be done and will they be bringing in a forensic anthropologist because many times that is done when you have a skeletal. >> have police now labelled this an actual murder investigation? clearly, whenever you find human remains, you've got a little bit more closely, so is that sort of a self-answering question, actually, gene? >> it is technically a death investigation. that's my point right there. when you find a skeletal remain, if you think logically, it could be done by someone else, which is a homicide.
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it could be a suicide. now, if this is hannah graham, dwoent think it's anything like that. the medical examiner will be trying to find out the cause of death, which then can help determine there was no hair attached, and he also department see any blunt force trauma to the skeleton. of course, that really needs to be determined by the experts at the medical examiner's office. >>. >> thank you so much. we know you're going to have a lot more for us a little later on. we appreciate that. >> our next guest says the obama administration, we'll ask congressman marshall blackburn.
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>> we just told thaw the pentagon is creating a rapid response team. a quick strike team to respond to ebola here in america. my next guest says that this is simply proof that the obama administration has mishandled the crisis from the beginning. joining us now is republican congresswoman marcia blackburn of tennessee. congresswoman, thank you so much. we want to know what your take is about the news that we just broke here on these new quick strike teams. what do you believe? >> well, i give them credit for taking the step. i do think that it proves that, first of all, they did not have a plan and, secondly, since they didn't have a plan, they didn't know what the implementation would be and the bureaucracy is so bloated that they can't figure out how to get that plan in place. i give them credit for realizing that, and i'm certain that you're going to see d.o.d. and
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the medical team, the d.o.d. medical team take charge of this and have a great team to deploy in helping our nation's hospitals on getting up to speed on how to handle this. >> they play a support tiff role in all of this. >> that's correct. >> what you are saying, though, is to suggest that the appointment of a new ebola tsar, in fact, a manager, as is being described, could effectively coordinate u.s. efforts more sufficiently to calm the panic. i'm disappointed that we have a spin master, and not someone who is a health care professional or an emergency response professional handling this. i think his only emergency response was the bush-gore
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recount in 2000, and i think that as i've talked to constituents and as i have talked to health care professionals, they're deeply disappointed. they would have loved to have seen someone like the swren who did such a good job after katrina, or former senator bill frisk who is a physician in his work to end the affected region in africa as well as having been a u.s. senator, knowing government resources to coordinate this. someone who has skillsets, debra, in each of these components that have to be brought together in order to handle this. we know in order to deal with this, you have to isolate it, and the best place to isolate it is there in west africa. >> so let's talk about that, congresswoman. you are on the record questioning the wisdom, however, of sending troops to these ebola impacted countries, so if you want to isolate it in liberia, why not throw your full support behind these troops helping out
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this devastated region? >> i have 1,500 troops that are going to be deploying from fort campbell, so we're going to stand with them completely and totally and fully support them in their efforts. we're very concerned about how they're going to move forward through this. i have found it interesting that d.o.d. is going to quarantine them for 21 days there before they return here. i have recommended that we quarantine anyone wanting to leave. the three countries in the affected area there before they're allowed to fly to the u.s. have something similar to a forward operating base, and citizens from guinea and sierra leone and liberia who want to exit those countries and have a visa would put themselves into quarantine at a facility before they exit the country. i think that would be the right thing to do.
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>> so just to summarize that, then, nafrlt, you do stand behind travel bans, yes? >> absolutely, i support travel bans, and i support a quarantine. >> congresswoman marshall blackburn, we appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. >> well, stick around. congresswoman karen bass will join us to explain why she thinks u.s. troops actually should be giving direct care of ebola patients in liberia. congresswoman bass is next. ifyi. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! (all) awesome! i love logistics.
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just before the break you heard congressman marcia blackburn say right here that she's concerned about the safety of u.s. troops that the administration is sending to the center of the ebola outbreak. my next guest sent a letter to the white house saying that, in fact, our troops with medical training do need to provide direct care, one-on-one, to ebola patients. democratic congresswoman karen bass joins me now from washington. thank you so much, congresswoman. first of all, why do you believe in this direct engagement that perhaps opens up our u.s. troops to risk? >> well, you know what, i think the announcement of the strike teams is exactly what we were referring to. the idea of having teams on the ground. i will tell you that we actually already do and who we have on the ground now, i think, is good. their public health service officers that are doing direct
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care because if we are concerned about ebola coming here, the way to stop it is for there to be a massive effort and intervention in the countries of origin. on friday i spoke to the president of liberia, president surleaf johnson. she told me the situation is getting better, and she was satisfied with where the u.s. response was now, so i think that we need to continue doing what we're doing, and i was very pleased to hear about the strike teams in the united states. >> it's fascinating because so many people have demonized thomas eric duncan, the first man who came with ebola to the united states. had he not come, the level of response clearly would not be where it's at, but let's talk about training. are american military personnel sufficiently trained and sufficiently qualified to really handle this outbreak that is raging through west africa. >> i have full confidence that the teams that are there on the grouped now have the training. i don't believe they would have been sent in without that, so, again, we do have people there
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now helping. when i spoke to president johnson a month ago, what she told me that was desperately needed was health care workers because we have to remember that the full focus in liberia has been on ebola and so the general health system, if you were going deliver a baby or you have malaria or anything else, was pretty much collapsed, and they really needed health care workers. now what is happening is the african union are sending people, and so there are, i'm sure, more are needed, but there are teams that are going now. >> u.s. having sent some 4,000 treepz every troops plus $400 million in aid, which is rather remarkable. these strike teams the president has put together to go to different cities in america, should there be more than one case, and we haven't seen more than a handful of cases to be clear, but you believe this is more an effort to calm the growing panic, or do you think this is a reasonable response as the administration grapples to sort of redefine how it is
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reacting to this. >> well, i think it's an excellent response because there is the potential for additional cases, and i think if we are very aggressive, you know, and we should feel confident in our health care system, but as you heard, many times from many different nurses, they're concerned about being adequately trained, and the idea that we have a strike force to enter into a city in a hospital right away, i think it's an excellent idea, it's an excellent response. >> i have the compliance trainers, which is also very good to make sure that not a speck, not a spot of blood, nothing that could potentially contaminate somebody else is there during the during process. congresswoman karen bass, thank you for your time this afternoon. >> thanks for having me on. >> and president obama hosting another ebola meeting at the white house. the one key player was missing. ron klain, the new so-called ebola czar. at t-mobile, you can hook up the whole family for a $100 a month.
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welcome back. i'm debra. thomas eric duncan, a memorial service was held this week for duncan in salisbury, north carolina, where his mother lives. he was the first ebola case to be diagnosed in the united states. the 42-year-old liberian man came to dallas to visit his fiance. she and three relatives have been in quarantine. that quarantine ends tonight at
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midnight. . >> president obama had a high level meeting at the white house last night. >> who was at the meeting? who was not? what did they accomplish? >> deb, ron klain, who is the newly named so-called ebola czar, was not at the meeting. he was at the white house yesterday afternoon late in the afternoon for some other meetings, but at this particular meeting the vice president was in attendance as well as health and human services secretary sylvia burwell. the omb director, jay johnson, the secretary of homeland security, sean donovan, the director of the office of administration and budget. dr. tom frieden, the director of the cdc, and a number of advisors to president obama and at this meeting they detailed for him the contact tracing method that is have been used as far as dallas is concerned as well as the other national
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measures that they are taking in order to insure that a situation like dallas does not happen again, deb. >> so today on cnn's state of the union with candy crowley, senator ted cruise demanded that the president ban flights from countries hit hard by ebola. let's take a listen. >> it's the first argument about the screens doesn't make sense because they don't work during the 21-day incubation period, and the second argument that they make is they say a travel ban would prevent health care relief workers from arriving in west africa. no one is talking about banning flights into west africa. of course, physicians and nurses and health care workers should be allowed to go in there and we can send them on charter flights or military c-130 aircraft with appropriate safety precautions. that's very different from saying commercial airliners should fly day after day after day with hundreds of passengers connecting with thousands of passengers coming all throughout the country. the arguments they're giving don't make sense.
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>> well, the white house feels very differently. they don't believe a travel ban will help. what is the administration's thinking? >> well, first, deb, let me point out that ted cruise is not the only person who is calling for a travel ban. there are a number of republican governors, senators, and others as well as democrats also calling for this travel ban, and that is something that ron klain is going to have to deal with, and in easing all of these fears and saying why they don't want a travel ban, and the reason that the white house is giving is essentially that people who are in the countries that are affected in west africa may be able to make it to the united states more easily with a travel ban because they could simply sneak into other countries and evade screenings that way. >> at least if they come in legitimately through the u.s. people know where they are and who they are. all right. erin, appreciate that. thank you. crews are calling off their search for missing uva student hannah graham after a new and troubling discovery. a forensic scientist, a former assistant secretary of the fbi analyzed this case next.
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linked to the case of morgan harrington, a 20-year-old virginia tech student who was found dead in 2009. matthew is scheduled to appear back in court in december. well, let's bring in cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes, joining us my skype from livingston manor, new york. a john jay college of criminal justice. tom, let's go to you first at this point. they have found human remains. they have called off the search. they notified hannah graham's parents. why are they not naming her? >> well, they're going to wait up until they have an official identification which will happen at the medical examiner's office. probably will require dental records to be specific, but at this point the police do not name the person. nor do they call it a murder investigation or a suicide. it's a death investigation until the medical examiner declares that the victim was murdered. >> and, larry, we heard earlier jean casarez who was there on
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site saying she saw investigators combing through the surroundings with what appeared to be a rake. what kind of forensic evidence could they find there at that scene if, in fact, it is hannah graham? >> well, first of all, you have a person who was missing for 35 days. my best guess is she is totally skeletonized, which tells me they will probably have difficulty determining the actual cause of death unless there is gunshot or something that has affected the skeleton. >> they will also be looking at trace evidence in the soil, and that will include a possible
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weapon. there is much to be found not only in the body itself, but everything that surrounds it. that search will be thorough. the anthropologists already know it's probably her because they have a relatively new skeleton. they know the height. they know the gender. they know the ethnicity. just based on looking at skeletal remains. they already know this is most likely hannah. >> and, tom, how do you retrace this particular disappearance now that investigators know perhaps where she is, if it's her. how do you go about now pinpointing how she got from point a to point b? who may have seen her? who are they going to look to question? what more surveillance tape are they going to try to affect? how would you piece this together? >> well, first of all, you'll do everything you just mentioned, and still try to find witnesses that may have seen her being driven by jesse matthew or some other person or seen them on the
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side of the road or saw the vehicle that he was in that night. >> those kind of efforts could continue. >> her cell phone could be a gold mine. last question to you. other evidence. is there the possibility she could have hair or skin or something under her fingernails that suggests that there was some sort of a struggle? >> absolutely. having tissue under the fingernails would do it, even after 35 days. there may be trace evidence of finding the suspect's hair on or around the body and that would
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essential do it. >> her parents said they just wanted to know where she was and what happened to her. sadly, they may have just gotten their answer. larry, tom, thank you. >> thank you. up next, texas health presbyterian hospital sent thomas duncan home when he showed up with ebola-like symptoms. turns out that's not the first time the dallas hospital has gotten in trouble for patient riyadh missions. details straight ahead. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, we're not just insuring our lives... we're helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow.
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>> have you probably given it little thought. travel bans from west africa to the united states. calls from some lawmakers are fwegt louder even though president obama opposes the travel ban. the director of the national institute of allergen and infectious diseases, dr. anthony is also against a ban. cnn's candy crowley asked him today about concern for republicans that doctors are not recommend it simply because the president doesn't support it. >> that's just not the case. i've never had an experience where a president is telling me to tell him something that he wants to hear. the president and the health officials, sylvia burwell and others, ask you what --
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>> no pressure? >> none at all. they're just asking what is your opinion about this? that's the reason why we give the opinion. we express the -- we respect the opposing opinion, but what was just articulated by senator cruise, the fact is it would be very, very difficult if you lost control of easily tracking people. you got to look at the numbers. to look at how many people are really trying to fwet into the country. you know, 36,000 people in two months went to airports to get out of the those three countries. 77 were blocked because of a health issue. when they investigated them, none of them had ebola. a lot of them had malaria. there's not a lot of people trying to get into the country. >> nina pham, she's under the care at n.i.h. how is she doing? >> she's doing fine. her condition is fair. she is stable. she's resting comfortably. ebola really knocks you out. i had a very long conversation with her. she's a lovely young lady. i think when the world gets to see her, we hope she will be out and will walk out of the hospital with her, you'll see
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what i'm talking about. she's doing fine. >> you are using, if we understand reading the press releases, about ten doctors and nurses to treat nina. dr. rick davie is in the room with her. we have four or five nurses. they change shifts. if things have a problem where we have to do a lot more intensive things, we'll switch it to eight-hour shifts and bring more people in. why then did it take 70 folks at the dallas hospital to treat an ebola patient? mr. duncan, who, unfortunately -- >> i think there were a lot of people, technicians coming in, going out of the room and getting samples and things like that. we have at the n.i.h. a very specifically equipped, trained, experienced people who are specifically dedicated only to that type of a situation.
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that's why it's different. >> he also said today that there does need to be more medical units in the united states, equipped and properly trained to handle all ebola patients. frontier airlines says it's contacting up to 800 passengers that may be linked flights she took. vincent is the second nurse diagnosed with the disease after treating patients thomas eric duncan. frontier says that the risk to passengers is extremely low, and they're telling passengers to contact the cdc if they have any concerns. >> our concern really is the safety of first our passengers
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and all of our employees. i think to the extent that, you know, we are always protecting and looking out for the safety of our passengers and employees, we are certainly concerned, and we've been very proactive. >> frontier airlines has taken that plane out of the air temporarily. >> the story is now tarnished by the mistakes made in the handling of its ebola patients. texas health presbyterian even lost federal funds in the past for patient riyadh missions. >> riyadh mission is a problem for all hospitals. in fact, since 2012 the centers for medicare and medicaid services have cracked down on
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this problem with penalties. presbyterian of dallas has been fined for the past three years in a row, but these fees don't impact the hospital's bottom line. the real problem is the financial hit it's taking currently. since mishandling an ebola patient, the hospital has closed down its emergency room. a significant source of revenue. there are also reducks in other areas and is reportedly two-thirds empty. >> it's the largest in north texas, operating 25 hospitals. all together they generate $4 billion in revenue. 17% alone comes from presbyterian of dallas. texas health is well funded in the short-term, so if presbyterian of dallas suffers financially or even worst case, an area shuts down, it won't be the end for a parent company. right now, though, there are no active discussions of a shutdown. deb. >> all right.
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an annual pumpkin festival turns chaotic last night in new
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hampshire. police in riot gear had to use tear gas to try to disburse, well, a rather rowdy pumpkin partier. cnn's alexandra fields joins us. it seems like not much can go wrong at a pumpkin festival, but, in fact, the opposite happened. how come? >> this is -- this happened in sort of a college town. this is keen, new hampshire, right next to keen state college. while this is billed as a fun family event, it's also a week where there are just a lot of college parties, a lot of alcohol clearly being served. this started on friday night. 42 arrests. a number of different problems going on. things really escalated, as you can see in the video, overnight last night. that's when you see police in riot gear coming in. we know they used pepper spray. we're hearing from witnesses that they used tear gas. i spoke to an official in keen, new hampshire, today asking why these kinds of measures could possibly be necessary, and they said that the crowd had grown so large and violent that it was essential to step in and do this. what you see in the video is fireworks going off there. there were fires that were set.
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cars were being flipped, and you have this mob of people throwing rocks at each other, bottles at each other, pulling out light posts and sign posts. really the kind of situation where police thought they needed to come in and try and disburse this crowd. >> all right. just quickly, arrests yes or no? >> yes. dozens friday night, and we're definitely going to hear about more overnight last night. numbers are still being pulled together. >> thank you. well, we are now having much more ahead in the newsroom. all of it starts right now. >> we're breaking down the rapid response team that the military is now putting together. the white house trying to change public perception of its response to the ebola crisis by appointing a so-called ebola czar. there's just one problem. he was a no-show at a key meeting last night. >>