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alisyn camerroto. the gain teen ends for those who were close to duncan. they have reached the 21 days and they are out of quarantine. the pentagon is assembling a response team to fly anywhere if a new ebola case surfaces. >> critics are blasting the president's controversial pick as too political. the cdc is scrambling to find new guidelines for health care workers treating ebola crisis. we begin with elizabeth cohen. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. i want to first get you up to
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date, nina pham is at the national institutes of health. she is doing well and resting comfortably. amber vincent is at emory. they have said she is conversing with her family. also, her family made a statement. in it, they said she roared her slightly elevated temperature several times to the cdc before flying. several times was given the all clear to fly back to dallas. now, the other health care workers who also took care of thomas eric duncan, they are monitoring themselves until october 29th. so they still have a while where they still need to be monitoring themselves and where they have limited movements and can't get on airplanes and that sort of thing. we mentioned the family of thomas eric duncan. >> that happened yet.
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his girlfriend issued this statement. she said we are so happy this is coming to an end. our happiness is pittsburghed with sadness at the same time. we continue to mourndown duncan's loss and grieve the circumstances of his death just at the time we thought we were facing a happy future together. also this weekend, there is a memorial service if north carolina for mr. duncan him alisyn. >> thank you so much for that update. it should be an interesting first day on the job for the new ebola czar rob klain. he was wildly ripped by republicans before even showing up. he has his hands full, michelle. >> reporter: right, this morning, we are seeing the administration's response to ebola, there are so many reactions to it. first of all, we are seeing the pentagon developing a 30 -- a 20-person rapid response team. doctors, nurses, trainers, they
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would respond within 72 hours to the next possible ebola case in the u.s. they would also be potentially wage treating the patient. so now, essentially, you have boots on the ground against ebola here in america. we are seeing the cdc come up with much more stringent protocols and this new ebola czar doesn't want to be called the ebola star the ebola response coordinator. the cdc said it didn't want to or need to appoint a person because it would add another layer of bureaucracy. >> that is drawing plenty of criticism from republicans. listen. >> we don't need another white house political operative, which is what mr. klain has been. what we need is presidential leadership. two weeks ago, the president should have stood up and suspended flights from these
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countries. >> well, there is another area where we are hearing criticism some republicans and democrats calling for a travel ban. we heard one congress woman saying the cdc should consider there could be a longer incubation period for ebola. >> there is no question the politics will play out more. maybe that's an indication that the real concerns are starting to abate someone because the point is to calm fears by showing the government is ready for whatever comes. so let's get some hard truth on how the administration is handling ebola mary scalvo, and dr. amesh adultgia with the infectious disease and from the fellow of international humanitarian affairs, good morning, welcome to all of you for joining us. i will start to you. you are next to me, not as much ebola panic out there and i
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think we would all agree, that's a good thing as long as it matches the practicalitys. are we tiring of this story? >> i think if terms of domestic threat, a number of people exit this 21-day period, globally, which is where the threat is in west africa, it's a very, very long way. we haven't mobilized anything like sufficient resources. the u.s. is a significant contributor. we haven't scaled off our response enough. the disease is spreading geographically in terms of the number of patients infected. >> saz long as that happens, the risk at home is real. >> it's important to say there is absolutely no way of preventing more ebola coming to the u.s. no matter what airport restrictions we put in place. we can get more ebola here unless we royalty back in west africa. >> let's talk about what we have done here to make it better. the cdc has new rules for
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treating ebola patients, more stringent full body covering. it seems like a big duh, why wasn't it like that from the beginning? >> it's probably because we have dealt with ebola if very resource poor settings before. par docksically, we didn't realize modern icus would be at higher risk because of the high blood and body fluid and after we saw what happened in texas, there was a consensus the guidelines weren't strong enough given what happened to mr. duncan. >> okay. that's an understanding. although, we where so resource rich here. dr. frieden from the cdc went to visit people, he was completely covered. it seems like they may be underestimated the risk or is that my niavete. >> ebola had never stein inside of a u.s. intensive care unit. we know a lot of other
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infections spread around because of all the body and blood fluid there. mr. duncan got the most advanced techniques and continued dialysis, things that had never happened before with an ebola patient. that put the nurses at an increased risk because of the high amount of contact they would have had with his fluids. >> all right. eric. i understand that point. let's get to how we keep it from coming in here, if possible. mary scalvo, a woman on a ship wound up testing negative. belize, mexico, they wouldn't let that ship anywhere near them. so there is an aggressive move toward retaliation, maybe too much. maybe it's fear-based. how long do you think we will keep doing the screenings here? do you think they're helpful and there are now 100 senators backing a ban if travel. what do you think happens there? >> well, i think the screenings must continue. it's absolutely imperative. because again there are two parts on the travel.
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it's not just everyone on a plane is going to get ebola. we know that's not going to happen. it's that the total disruptions to the lives of people. the average american citizen can't disappear for 21 days. you got jobs, you got kids. so it's the disruption, it's the total shut down of the system if there is a lot of ebola and quarantine in the united states. that's the problem in mixing a deadly disease communicable through contact on transportation that moves very quickly. that's why we like it and is borderless, a national border doesn't mean much to aviation. so that's why everyone and the hundred senators are clamoring for the travel ban because it makes sense. the cdc's response was really a kind of a new level of hip pyp y hypocrisy, they'll go to our poorest borders and sneak in. now i'm not even going to justify that. the point is that you are dealing with a crisis, can you
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not disrupt the system of temperatures because our entire economy depends upon it. we saw that first hand after september 11th 2001. the senators who want it are simply trying to project the united states of america. >> the president gave it some space, he created space not philosophically opposed. let's get your guy's take on the new information t. first is the 21-day quarantine is over for the fiancee and family of thomas eric duncan. so that is good news. however, why 21 days? now we are hearing the biblically scary somebody 40 days. we hear there is a blood test can you do in the first ooek week to see if somebody has it. >> we are raising all kind of decisions in terms of the cdc. 21 days is based on data from 1976. they review, drexel university,
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he has published a paper online looking at all the data, he says an average incubation period is much longer, twrun days you could miss up to 12% of the cases. so that's the aukmentation. it's. >> why not do a blood test? >> the cdc website still didn't have updated protocol for putting on gear. if you want to know how to put on your protective equipment, it's extraordinary, they should still post it to the who website. >> are we wrong about the blood test? >> i think the issue with the blood test, i have to do it every day, it would probably give you a couple days head start. it would certainly make a decision about quarantineing and risk management much, much easier. >> i am stuck on time. i want to get you, doctor, give me a quick take on ron klain him
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a lot of people in your community are saying, you got to have a medical background. it can't just be the politically astute. what is your take, quickly? >> i think it's essential this person whoever it may be is able coordinate and understand and integrate all the scientific information about ebola, whether that's a doctor or somebody else. it won't matter unless that person is up to the job. >> you have to understand the systems as not so much the medicine as it is the system. i appreciate it. doctors, thank you. al sen. >> okay. chris, breaking news overnight. the u.s. providing help for kurdish fighters in the syrian city of kobani. weapons, ammunition and medical supplies were air dropped to fighters trying to push back isis terrorists who want to claim that city. this after coalition airstrikes continued through the weekend. cnn's senior international correspondent rick peyton walsh is live on the turkey-syria
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border with more. nick. >> what we are hearing from kurdish fighters inside the town is those air drops last night, three americans c-130s dropping 27 sets of ammunition, medical supplies and food actually delivered some m-16 rifles, according to that fighter. he's going to assist. they need a more stark move by the tungs use its power affect to take this from iraqi pesh murg gas and drop it off and bolstered as well by news we are hearing that turkey who frapgly sees the kurdish fighting is far from their friends. they have allowed more peshmurga to enter the city and fight for it. a lot happening this morning. the kurds have been optimistic after 135 airstrikes in the past
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weeks and barak obama talking to his turkish counterpart and presumably exchanging different opinions about how much aid the kurds in the city behind me should get. they do seem to be holding their ground. >> thank you so much for the update line let's go over to mikalah. >> good morning. a deepening crisis in hong kong. demonstrators are entering their fourth week. tomorrow's talks are still on the table despite weekend clashes between protesters and police. dozens have been injured, including 22 officers. hopes are not high for a break through tomorrow since neither side is budgeing much over how the city will elect it's necessary leader if 2016. the new york times reports the obama administration will not seek congressional approval to suspend sanctions against
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iran. this report says a suspension of sanctions would be enough to satisfy iranian negotiators, the president, himself, request not terminate them, ewill need congress to do that. the alleged ring leader of 2012 attack is set to be arraigned today. he is facing 17 new charges on the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi. the offenses could carry the death penalty. u.s. special forces captured him earlier this year. four americans were killed in that 2012 terror attack including ambassador chris stevens. no. seen now numero you no. bronco's quarter back peyton manning setting a few record with his 509 sunday night. he had four td passes including 510 as the broncos routed the 49ers 42-17.
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news this morning, we now know when the duke and duchess of cambridge will have their sec baby. duchess kate is still suffering from a severe case of morning sickness. she is due in april. the first child, prince george, was born in july of 2013. so tail be nice and close. one out of typers, not quite a. toddler and a new baby will be exciting times in their house. >> that was a poorly kept secret, by the way. >> it's official they're announcing it. >> so that's for real. >> we have baby fever around here. well tell you about that. >> it's true. it kwon tagious. it turns out that indra peterson standing in the middle of a hurricane and finding great desmon sharks to attack her didn't work out. you got some vacation. welcome back. >> freezing cold air settling in for the northeast.
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on top of that, we will be talking about what a nor'easter, yes, a lovely monday for us, by the way. new york city, 42 degrees. notice the difference. everyone says, is the cold air going to stay? it's all about the northeast, this cool pool of air. notice these departures by the time you get through wednesday, all that cool air spreading farther into the east. this is heat. this is why we have that setup for the northeast. here's the cold air. low pressure is making its way up the coast lean. cold day pressure difference. it means wind to you. these strong northeasters will be making their way in. tuesday, wednesday, even thursday, we're not just talking about wind. remember the wind is over the ocean. we are talking avenue amounts of rain over the next couple of day, even the threat for some flooding. look at these numbers here, one to two inches around new york city, not too bad when you talk about your days, tuesday, source, rain on wednesday and continuing on thursday.
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you are not going to be happy, three to five inches of rain possible out through maine. here's those winds about 15 to 20 miles per hour. each day as you get closer, those highs and lows get closer to each other t. wednesday go up as high as 50 miles per hour out towards maine. so thanks for the welcome back, guys, cold, rain, windy, perfect. >> and pleasant. love it. >> you can't control the weather. blame yourself. blame yourself. >> because i gave myself a lot of pass in the summer. >> thank you. a gruesome discovery in the search for the missing university of virginia student hannah gram. police forced to make a difficult call to her parents. has hannah's body finally been found? >> you are going to be hearing a lot about the today. officer darren wilson's events the day michael brown was killed in ferguson, missouri. his description of the events and autopsy analysis can be a big deal to the grand jury. why he says he feared for his life. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman,
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more cluz as friends and family await authorities to determine if, in fact the body is the missing student. cnn has the latest from virginia. jean. >> reporter: officials have said this is the largest hope in virginia's history and the search for sophomore hannah graham may be over. the five week search for university of virginia student hannah graham may be suspended as a shocking discovery pushes this investigation case into a death investigation. >> today's discovery is a significant development. we have a great deal of work
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ahead of us. >> reporter: saturday search teams scour an abandoned property in virginia found huh pan remains, 8 miles from where 18-year-old hannah graham disappeared. >> i don't know how else to explain it something inside me told me continue to look. >> reporter: shortly after, charlottesville police relayed the news of the discovery graham's parents. >> forensic tests need to be conducted to determine the identification of those remains. nonetheless, we wanted to be quick and timely to share that with the graham family. >> reporter: graham vanished september 18th from charlottesville downtown mall. last seen with a 32-year-old jesse matthew. matthew is the only person detained. he is behind bars charged with abduction with intent to defile t. remote location is within miles of the farm where the body
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of another missing co-ed was found in 2010. 20-year-old virginia tech student morgan harrington. law enforcement has connected matthew to harrington through dna evidence calling it a significant break in her case. police have since seedsed a cab he was driving the night she vanished. no word on how long it will take to identify the remains found over the week. but if they are those of hannah graham, jesse matthew could be facing a murder charge. and the sergeant of the chesterfield sheriffs department who found the remains says there were tight black pants monita. law enforcement tell me this is a very difficult case to process a and the crime scene processing will take place at least through thursday. no word, chris, alisyn, on when that autopsy will be. >> hopefully, the process can happen quickly. thanks so much for the update.
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another case you will be watching, the shooting date of michael brown. the ferguson cop has a story that may match up with few forensic evidence. if it does, it could weigh heavily in the officer's favor. we will explain and debate. check out this local forecast, going to the dogs literally. look at him. he doesn't know what to do. is there going to be a, wait for it, rough patch of storms ahead? >> wow. >> is the roof going to cave in? moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.
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. >> just about half past the hour. world health organization declaring the nigeria is ebola free with no new cases. the pentagon is assembling 30 medical experts to fly immediately to year in the nation. meanwhile the cdc is scrambling to find new protocol, treating infected patients. a king charles spaniel is being tested for ebola. bentley has been quarantined. guards exchanging gunfire briefly across the border. the south claims its border guards were forced to take action of ten forth korean soldiers approached the military
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demarcation line. for the deaths have been reported. this comes after the south repeated high level talks with the forth. an american couple hoping for an end to their two-year legal battle nightmare were in qatar hoping to come back to the united states this week. matthew and grace cong have been held there, they say they endamae endangered her life. they claim she had an eating disorder. a alberta, canada, a weatherman had a rough time delivering his newscast. he had an animal on script. things didn't go quite as planned. >> sit. . minus 2 degrees mark. it's getting close to the
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let's talk about the stockmarket. u.s. stock futures higher right now. a good start to last week's crazy performance is that over? apple earnings and housing numbers this week. speaking of housing. freddie mac offering mortgages with as little as a 3% downpayment. this raises big concerns, though, about repeating mistakes that led to the housing collapse. today is the day apple pay is here. starting today, you can make purchases in more than 220,000 stores. retailers are trying to disrupt your wallet. are you ready to give up your wallet, your money, everybody, and pay with your phone if. >> so is the question tomorrow we will be reporting a hack?
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cnn's ted roll lens. >> reporter: officer darren wilson according to new york times told investigators before he shot and killed michael brown the unarm teen ageer attacked him. the time's reports officer wilson says that brown pushed him back into his police vehicle punching and scratching his neck and face while trying to get his gun. the time's reports that michael brown's gun was found on his gun and uniform and on the inside panel of the front door of the police vehicle. dorian johnson, who was with mike brown told a much different version of events the day of the shooting. >> he pulled up on the side, he tried to tlush his door opened. we were so close to it. it ricochetted off us and bounced back to him. i guess that got him a little upset. >> reporter: johnson said officer wilson was the aggressor, grabbing mike brown, first around the neck, then by the arm. >> as he was trying to coke my friends, he was trying to get away the officer then reached out. he grabbed his arm to pull him
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into the car. his weapon was drawn, he says, i'll shoot you or i'm going to shoot and in the same moment the first shot went off. we looked at him. he was shot, there was blood coming from him. >> reporter: he was an eyewitness who shot cell phone video of the after math. this is what she said about the initial struggle within she appeared on a "new day" in august. >> from my point of view, i could not tell exactly what was going on. it looked as if he was trying to pull him almost in full garb. >> the officer pulled michael in the car. >> we don't foe what officer wilson pay have told them about shooting and killing brown after getting out of his vehicle. several witnesses claim brown seemed to surrender, which seems to be supported by two construction workers reacting to the shooting. meanwhile, if ferguson, people are reacting to wilson's purported version of events with skepticism. while vowing to fight for
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change, no matter what happens to officer wilson. >> it's about the policing of our people in this country. you have to draw the linesome where. >> reporter: ted owens, cnn, ferguson, missouri. >> so what does this mean for all the kids? let's ask the host of tough post live and mel rob benefits, legal analyst. great to have both of you with me. mel, let me start with you according to new york times, michael brown's gun was found on the front door of the police car and officer brown's gun. how does that change the case? >> i don't know if it changes the case, what it does do is corroborates what the officer has been saying all along. look. this is a case that will come down to two things, the witnesses and whether or not the grand jury and ultimately a
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trial jury believes which witnesses, i think the important thing is did the officer, in fact, have scratches or injuries on his face, alisyn. >> that is key. we always few there was some sort of physical altercation at the car. we don't know who was the aggressor. we do need to know if the officer has some sort of bruising or physical cuts. let pe read for you, mark, an excerpt from the new york tiles. what they say happened in the car. darren wilson told authorities during the scuffle mr. ground brown reached for the gun. it was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the federal bureau of investigation. the first bullet struck mr. brown in the arm. the second bullet missed. how does that change how you see the case? >> it doesn't change the way we see the case. we always know the officer was claiming there was some tussle in the car. we know typically he reached for my gun is what officers say when there is a shooting, good or
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bad. that doesn't shock me either. the question for me is not what happened in the car, it's what happened when we were away from the car and his hands allegedly were in the air. if he was shot with his hands in the air, what happened in the car is less material. i will defer to legal experts. it goes to darren wilson's state of mind. nevertheless, if he is surrendering, the other stuff is immaterial. >> i want to ask you about that if michael brown did go for the officer's gun. if officer wilson did feel he was being physically assaulted, does he then have the legal right to pursue michael brown and fire at him? >> well, you no e, this is one of the things that's problematic about the case, alisyn, mark, that is that the law is on the side of the officer, now, it's only problematic from people that are wanting to see a conviction. i want to see the truth come out. a police officer has completely
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different legal standards under which they can operate than you or i if he reasonably feared imminent bodily harm and the jury believes michael brown was the aggressor and the gun has gone off and there is a short amount of time between the original scuffle and the other shots that went off and the officer is compelling on the stand and convinces the jury he didn't perceive those hands going up. he perceived it as another witness said as him moving towards the officer, again that would have been a second attack, a jury could very well see he was justified in using deadly force. >> if the officer feels reasonable bodily harm, it seems as though this new information that officer wilson feared danger. >> the question is he says he was. i'm not sure i do. having spoken to many witnesses,
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including ones who we have exclusive footage of, the construction workers after the shooting, everything e everyone else seems to say his hands were in the air. >> by the time his hands were in the air, officer wilson was already in that fight or flight anxiety mode of possibly having been attacked in the dar. >> if we believe the witness accounts, his hands were in the air if flip flops, he is probably not charging an officer with a gun aimed at him. >> that doesn't seem reasonable to me. >> you are saying regardless of what happened in the car, officer wilson shouldn't have fired the shots outside of the car. >> i'm saying regardless of what happened in the car, we must figure out. i wasn't there, based on the witnesses i have spoken to i am inclined to believe that account. i don't want to say somehow the shots were justified outside the car if his hands were in the air and he surrendered. >> how do we figure out what happened in the car, those lost
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seconds only officer wilson knows. >> you have two witnesses, the officer and then you have michael brown's friend who witnessed it. it's going to come down to who the jury believes. here's another thing. i agree with park. if michael brown's hands were in the air and he was surrendering, no police officer should be shooting period when somebody has their hands in the air and there is not been shot at. not been an exchange of fun gier, if michael brown's hands are in the air, that is an unjustified shooting. however, none of the witnesses had the van tage point of the officer. it also will come down to what was the officer's van tage point and who does the jury believe? and these are all questions of fact, alisyn, mark, for a jury. i think this is a case that truly needs to be indicted and be put in front of a jury so they can weigh the facts. >> pell says it's all matters of fact. it's perception and its who the jury would believe, the officer
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or the friend who witnessed it from that bird's eye view. >> that's always the problem in these cases. what a reasonable fear shifts from person to person, in america the jury will for they have a reasonable fear, we feel those are so dangerous even if their hands are in the air, they pose a legal threat. >> thanks so much for analyzing all of this for us. book over to chris. >> all right, alisyn, thank you very much. we will them you a story today that really will go to the heart of ebola the race to save kent brantley and nanciens writebol. when they became infected with ebola working in west africa, things happened that we really don't understand. it fuels a lot of why we are anxious today. we have the man that literally
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wrote the book on ebola 20 years ago how it's amikeing today. what we don't foe about how people were saved. all very important. stay with us. is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about americas favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice.
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. >> welcome back to "new day." the world was first introduced to the troors of ebola, the best selling book the hot zone.
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1994 it came out. two decades later, the hot zone is understandably back on the best seller's list, preston is back on the story, more important for you. the week, preston has an article in the "new yorker" about the front leans of ebola research and the race to save ebola survivors kent brantley and fancy writebol. youny y think you know the stor. you don't. i was surprised about your piece about how fear death's door these two people were. when we saw them, nancy writebol was a little more fragile, obviously, ken brantley was walking, we thought okay. that's hardly the case. >> it's amazing they gave him the drug z-man when he was possibly hours from death. he was in the fatal decline that happens to many people with ebola. you basically crash, your blood pressure drops, his breathing was in trouble.
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>> le knew it, write, even though he was so ill, he was cog fizant of the fact of how vulnerable he was. >> he was a doctor, he clinically knew he was dying. >> they had no ventilator apparatus. >> there is no vent lator. >> if he had real labor breathing and stopped he wouldn't have been resuscitated. >> what i heard is he didn't believe he could make it into the night. they had the drug if him. within hours, he went through intense shaking called rigors, not sure why that happens. in the end, we don't foe whether it was the drug or what it was, because the truck remains untested. it's a bit of a mystery. >> really, when are you in such a state and a variable introduced the drug. it seems difficult to exclude it. which is why we're so anxious to have more of it. >> this will be one of the most important countermeasures. these are drugs. i have a counts now of about 19
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possible therapies or ways to deal with ebola. most of them are not going to work out. some of them will. this reminds me a little bit of the battle of britain. you know, in terms of an infectious disease emerging, the disease is in effect a threat to everybody on the planet. >> you have a lot of descriptive metaphor for the virus if your book. you see it as a monster, a none human killer that can wipe out populations. and this was 20 years ago. now we are seeing it kind of. >> in other parts of the world. >> the emergency is big, america is now influenced, is fact in anyway more daunting and the fiction you created 20 years ago? >> first of all, i want to say the ebola is not like this andromeduos strain. it's not going to get us in the
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air. it's a serious disease threat that needs to be taking seriously. the doctors are taking it extremely serious. one of the things i covered in this piece was there are scientists at mit and harvard who are looking carefully at the way the virus is mutateing. ebola is a fast mutator. it explores huh pan bodies and learning so to speak how to replicate faster in us, perhaps, how to spread better from person to person. >> well, there are two things you came up with that i think are a lot of interesting things. two on this particular issue. the first is the expert that you are dealing with primarily says it can't go airborn. that's not what it would do. do you boy that? >> i totally buy that. the way he put it is can zebra's learn how to fly?
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ebola is not going to go airborne in the classic sense t. particles of the virus would have to dry out and spread like dust through the air and get into people's lungs. >> that's not what it does. >> ebola is a wet organism. it needs moisture. there are other ways it could mutate to make it more possible for it to spread quickly. >> right. that was the sec thing because it was counterintuitive. he said the way it could change is it could not kill people as quickly and last longer. i said it would be good? he said it would be bad for. >> it would be bad for us and good for ebola if ebola could be less deadly, maybe 20% of people die instead of 50 percent. people would be sick long early, they would perhaps walk around longer. >> they spread it to more people. >> then this is a big piece of science, 21 days, a number
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everybody knows, if i can make it 21 days, forget about the fact that they have blood tests they can tell you within days, whether or not we have it. we don't why they are not using the blood tests. 21 days is old science from the '70s, what itself the current thinking of how long you have to wait on a quarantine? >> i think the truth is even the experts don't really know that 21 days is based only tests in monkeys. they give them different doses of ebola and see how long the monkey goes. we don't have good data on humans. we don't know him so i think they're being very, very cautious on the 21 days. i think probably for most people, you know, if you have been infected, you are probably going to show signs of it before that. >> one of the frustrations, if there is a blood test you can find out within a few days, why aren't they doing that? why wouldn't you quarantine people or ice them when it stirs up so much fear. >> there is a problem with the
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test. >> tell us, what is it? >> you can have a fever, which means you are infectious, but the first time they give you that test, it may come up negative and they have to wait 72 hours and give it to you again, there is that possible gap of time between when you are infectious and when the test registers. that's one of the problems. that's why they have to keep them in quarantine. >> it's safer to just wait. let me leave you with this. although you will be back. we need you too much on this. the reporting is just as good as the writing you put together. the response from the government and what you anticipated when you put together the initial narrative has in some ways been stranger than fiction? >> it feels like the hot zone the scientists 22 years ago who knew what ebola was, knew very well that it would scare a whole lot of people if it shows up in the united states, which is just what it's done. we weren't prepared.
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i would say many health workers in africa were better prepared for ebola than people in the most sophisticated hospitals in the u.s. this is a learning curve. they are him dock up fast on that learning curve in the united states. i have confidence they will be able to handle it. >> hearing it from you. >> that is confidence inspired. mr. preston, good to have you. pieces of the "new yorker" if you want to read up. we are following the fuzz, there is a lot of news this morning. let's get to it. >> the pentagon is forming a 30 person quick strike team designed to treat ebola patients. >> the military is always prepared for these times of events. >> it proves they did not have a plain. >> rob klain, what his reputation do not reflect is any sort of a medical background. >> what he is a political operative. >> everybody knows there is a
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demand in there. >> back up. we have to get the data out there. >> all the heroes have stepped up. it's a miracle. >> good morning, well come back to "new day." i'm alisyn camerota. one country declared ebola-free. nigeria has not had a new case of the virus if six weeks. that's good news. breaking overnight, the family members of thomas eric duncan get the all clear after 21 days in quarantine, medical experts stand poised to fly to any location on a moment's notice where a case of ebola is reported in the u.s. >> they are calling them the domestic czar team. the cdc is putting protocols on health care workers treating
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ebola patients. why only now? we got the crisis covered from every angle beginning with senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. >> hopefully, we are coming out of a crisis, let's start with the condition of those two nurses who took care of thomas duncan, nina pham is doing well. amber vincent's family has not released a condition on her. now, a family attorney issued a statement if response that she may have traveled even though she probably wasn't feeling well, the attorney says that's not true and made this statement he said first of all she was given the clear to travel. one day after returning to dallas, amber first reported a temperature of 10 100 .3
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degrees. protocols are patently untrue and hurtful. now all those 70-something health care workers that also took care of mr. duncan, they are to monitor their health until october 29th. now, as for duncan's family, they ended their quarantine yesterday. ies. >> all right. elizabeth. now these new questions, is 21 days enough, you are supposed to be doing blood testing, there will be more questions here. let's take it as good news for now. another bigs a peck mr. ron klain is coming under criticism. they are criticizing this pick as being political than practical. the big ticket item here, michelle, he doesn't have a
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medical background. >> that's exactly right. he has been in politics a long time. the former chiefs of staff, very high profile physicians there, it's been interesting, for a long time, we heard republicans call for there to be an ebola czar. all rotto, he doesn't want to be called an ebola czar, a response coordinator. now the criticism is he isn't coming from the field of medicine but the field of politics. as for the administration we heard them say they didn't want or need a coordinator. because that would add another layer of bur rocky case. okay. a coordinator is what's needed. not necessarily a doctor. klain was seen at the white house on saturday the same day there was this big meeting with president obama, his public health team. his national security team. but klain didn't attend. he wasn't initial i officially
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on the job yet. yesterday we heard the president seemed to hit out at his republican criticism. lately, all though, he didn't mention ebola specifically. >> right now, it's so discouraged to tell you to remind you everything that's not working right, that their plan is make people feel like government can't work. >> also remarkable today, we are seeing the pentagon develop this 30-person rapid response team to deal with any future cases of ebola in america. alisyn. >> michelle kazinski thank you so much for that. let's bring in republican rob sessions. congressman, great to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> all right. when we last spoke, you thought the dministration whereas not
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doing enough to combat ebola. since that time a few things happened. they named a few czar or coordinator, ron klain. are you encouraged by that? >> i am encouraged. we feed the president of the united states involved if this. i find it interesting the first meeting that was held, mr. klain didn't attend that, wasn't invited. the bottom line to this whole thing is that the government needs to take quick action they need to deal with other countries well. we learned when this crisis was going on, the united states not provide leberia with the name, so they can do their own work. that's the missteps we saw take place, which is why i was asking for a direct action out of the white house. it looks like that's happening. >> one of the other things you were saying last week you were
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interested in seeing thomas frieden step down. how do you feel about that this week? >> i feel like when i looked at the calls that were taking place the director said that ebola would be stopped in dallas, texas. ten we had people traveling. we saw where they were unprepared with the kind of materials that people would wear of the covering, the protective gear. that was not in place him i saw things happening over and over where i did not see the cdc in charge and that is why i paid the statement that i did. the white house is, obviously, seeing the exact same thing and i'm happy that we now have a director out of the white house. >> so are you willing to give thomas frieden another chance this week or has he blown it given everything you enumerated? >> first of all, let me say the i think he should have come to dallas, texas and taken control of the situation. second of all, i think we were
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expecting him to make decisions the white house didn't want him to make, that is the 13,000 visas issued from these four african countries. he was indicating we did not need to stop air travel or this migration. well, there was a report out last week saying africa has made progress exactly base the had put these travel bans in place. it was the right thing to do. it still might be the right thing. now the white house will take personal responsibility for that instead of it being in the gap in between. >> so it sounds like thomas frieden can stay in his job now that some of this. >> i tell you what it sound like, he is best suited evidentally there at the cdc. not in a policy-advising position at all that i can see for the united states. >> so congressman today, where are you on a travel ban? >> well, i believe that what we
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should do is rescind the 13,000 visas, meaning that people could not travel at this time. you know, when you go into a travel ban, everybody takes that to the unlikeliest connection of closing our borders. that's not what the worst is about. it's about the string of ebola. that takes place by having a ban in place from people. keep them in the place where they are. let's know what the incubation period is, let the military response team work in africa and the united states then we are better prepared. >> dr. fauci from the nih talked about that this weekend and you complicated it is to issue a ban even from aengss in the west
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african country. >> the fact is it would be difficult if you lost track of people. you have to look at the numbers to look at how many are trying to get into the country. 36,000 people in two months went to airports get out. 77 were blocked because of a health issue. when they investigated them, none of them had ebola. a lot had malaria. so that's the thing that needs to be understood. >> 150 people a day from west africa do try to get into the united states. that's 9,000 people. that's not insignificant. what should the u.s. do about them? >> well, the united states should make sure that what worry doing is isolating the people who are coming, who they are. we need to know about whether they live in the city or places
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where this ebola is taking place. we can certainly protect the united states it's about isolateing it. what the african nations said they have done to create a circumstance where it is not passed on. what we should do is restrict the amount of travel visas we have to american citizens travel back and forth and the visas only to essential personnel that need go back and forth. >> congressman pete sessions, thank you so much for joining us. >> you bet. >> you want correspondence over here, too? >> please. >> thanks, a lot. nine minutes past the hour. a shift in the city of kobani, ammunition and medical supplies were dropped to kurdish fighters trying to keep the city falling to isis. the administration had been
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downplaying the significance of the battle for kobani. collision airstrikes continued through the weekend as well helping to slow the advance of isis fighters. back here at home, this morning, michelle knight says she has for given her captor. she held knight hostage for 11 years. castro raped her repeatedly, leading to five miscarriages, during a sunday appearance in ohio, she says, it's not his fault, claiming he suffered from a disease. knight was freed last year and needed therapy to move on and find peace. boy, things got ugly in key, new hampshire this weekend. police had to resort to tear gas and pepper spray to get a rowdy crowd under scroll. the chaotic scene saw fires and a street littered with broken bottles. volunteers did show up sunday to clean up the mess left behind.
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. >> more aggressive. that's the approach from the united states defense department. the u.s. military is forming a 30 person quebec strike team to provide treatment to the ebola patients. the team is paid up of
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specialized trainers. they will be under orders. will that be extended? how does this work? let's get perspective and answers from the rear admiral john kirby. admiral, always a pleasure. thank you for joining us. >> what is the answer, is this team going to replace or are they going to aid? how will it work? >> the team is to be an assistance to help medical authorities where and within they are needed. we will start training. it will take a week or. so when they complete that training we will be on prepare to deploy orders for about a month and ready to go at 72 hours or less. >> one person if charge. ron klain. is this something that is outside kwlour pay grade or can you tell me if this is a good idea? >> we don't make policy.
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we executed. we will do whatever we can to support mr. klain and his efforts in fact the request was a part of a discussion with secretary burwell human services. we will provide it. >> my understanding is the quick strike force was on the table and sucked by you all very early on in this process here of cases coming here to the united states. is that true? >> i haven't heard it was a part of the discussions very early on. what i can tell you is from the very beginning, secretary haggle has be hackel has /* /- hack hagel has made it clear we will provide those when we can. >> how is it going in liberia? what do you think the progress is? >> no, none of our troops have
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contracted the ebola virus. it's going okay. okay i mean that we're on track to get those first emergency treatment units up. the first one will be done by the end of this month. the second one the first week of november. we are building the training site. it's going okay. but the weather and infrastructure is still a problem. it still rains much of the day and slows us down a bit. our troops are working really, really hard. they're proud of the contributions they're making. >> i know that ebola doesn't move in water or they don't understand it that way. but a wet environment is obviously something of concern with something that is a wet virus. let me ask you something, there is a head lean, nigeria now ebola free. they haven't had a case in a certain amount of time. people take that news and say, well, if nigeria can do it, certainly the u.s. forces can get that done quakely anywhere else. how hard a challenge is that?
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>> it's still going to be quite a lift. this disease is spreading down there, for the question about that. i want to peak it clear the u.s. military is not coming to the rescue all by itself. we are providing unique capabilities. we are a supporting element as well as the government of liberia, there is an awful lot of people down there, health care workers, as well as governmental organizations doing a really, really good job trying to get their hands around this and we're just there to support them. >> head likes from the other veers, isis the u.s. coalition is going after. we keep hearing they can't take baghdad but they keep moving closer we had the suicide bombing yesterday in a predominantly shia area. they haven't tain taken credit. is the analysis changing?
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>> it's not like their formations are waiting to scattered thunderstorm in. they do have violence. we have seen ied attacks before. our assessment is the iraqi forces are stiffening tear results and defenses and they are capable now of defending the capital city. believe me, they know how important backed is to their people to their country to their security. >> admiral, kobani, at first it was there are many kobanis all you a long the border, now there is a lot of effort and attention go imp to this one place by the u.s. coalition and the airstrikes, why? the second question is, the air supply of weapons to the area to the people fighting the kurds, there is a suggestion that that would make turkey upset and that'sf moing around the news now, that turkey doesn't like what happened. is that rue? what's the coordination, what's the state of the play? >> let me take the second one first.
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you know the president talked to president erdowan. he made it clear what we are doing and why, that was a productive discussion. we have said earlier, the bulk, the bundles we dropped we know got into the right hands. on the other question of kobani, it matters to us because it matters to them because they keep flowing resources and efforts to take that town. with tain do that, they flow more resource, they present themselves in ways, make themselves vulnerable to our airstrikes from the air but also from the efforts oak from these kurdish forces, kurdish force was have been impressive and fighting very, very hard. they were running dangerously low on supplies. we felt this was the right thing to do. >> we appreciate it as always.
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>> my pleasure. >> all right. chris, are hospitals more prepared this week to deal with ebola than they were before thomas eric duncan was diamondback nosed in dallas? dr. sanjay gupta and the head of the hospital association tell us the answer. have for ted cruz set his sights on leading congress into 2015? john king takes a look at what the junior senator from texas pay have in mind. the most amazing thing about the ford fusion isn't the way it looks. ♪ the most amazing thing? is the way it sees. ♪ with blind spot technology, a lane-keeping system and a standard rearview camera, the fusion is ready for whatever comes your way. ♪ go prepared. go further. ♪
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. >> all right. here's a look at your headlines right now t. world health
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organization declaring nigeria is ebola free. this as the cdc is scrambling to finalize new protocols for health care workers. those protocols will include protective gore with no 16ic posed. in the meantime, 48 people quarantined if dallas, because they had contact with patients, ebola patient thomas eric duncan, they have been declared infection free, among them his fiancee. the lake county coroner says bodies of seven people have been found over the week. it started friday night, in fact, when a woman was found dead in a motel. police say it led them to a suspect. he reportedly confessed to other crimes. we will have more details as they become available. the pope is moving another trail blazing pontiff towards sainthood, they beatified pope
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paul, vi, who led the church through major reform in the 1960s. the row forms vatican ii open for a mass to be said in other languages, instead of latin. paul vi was credited with revolutionizing with other religions during his 15-year tenure. i will tell the story straight. viagra may be good for your heart and 96 to the other things it's good for. other researchers in rome saying the little blue pill pay prevent early stage hart failure and keep the heart muscle from thickening. they say there is no reason it shouldn't be used immediately. they mentioned larger clinical trials could help build on the encouraging findings. i have a lot of quips. >> you know why, here's why, that was very well tracked my friend because the clips aren't as interesting as -- >> the news. >> because it's european, they're saying you should start
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doing this right away. not here, i'm telling you right now they won't allow it. it's an off label use and there is this whole bureaucracy around it here. >> botox was originally used for something different. they realized they kind of rushed back to. >> it takes some time. you will see. see how matter of fact it was for the europeans, oh, it's already approved. >> way to stick to the medical angle. i like that. well done. >> it's more interesting. the other stuff is painfully obvious. unlike politics with mr. john king. >> botox, strike remarks elections, what are we going to talk about this morning? >> they all go towing, somehow. >> artificial expectations. i knew we were in trouble. now i think we're in deep trouble. good morning to you all. a lot to talk about inside politics, 15 days, a very important mid-term election. let's go through the big races,
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with me to share the reporting and their insights, ed o'keefe of the washington post. let's start, we have been spending time on the ebola crimes you both have been on the road, suddenly, yes, it's a little about the ebola government. ebola is coming up. republicans say tear candidate has caught up over the last week. one of the reasons they think it destressing security issues. over the week, she changed her mind, listen to her here in charl saying, let's do this. >> we need to have a temporary travel ban on non-u.s. citizens coming from the acted countries of west africa. >> tom tillis had a statement from his spokesman saying that is a flip-flop, a desperate attempt to mislead the media, another example of failed
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leadership of her and the president. is this going to be an impact on these races? >> i was in colorado last week. we were talking to a democratic strategist out there who said when after duncan's death if texas they saw an pede drop in the polls for democrats all over the country. it's becoming a huge issue. because that's all people want to talk about in denver, if particular, that's where frontier airlines is head quartered. so you saw mark udall come out. they are responding to the polls him you have something like two-thirds of american was want a travel ban, experts say that would not be an effective way to deal with this. >> i have to assume, every day, candidates are talking about ebola. whether it's the specifics or just it makes people feel anxious. that can't be good for democrats. >> that's why republicans are so good to talk about this.
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it's an opportunity to put democrats on the spot around test their allegiance to the president who until this weekend wasn't really very supportive of taking these steps, putting in a czar or talking about a travel ban. almost immediate, mark udall, michelle nunn told reporters, if we're going to do it. yes, let's do it. all of them hadn't said anything. >> you were hearing lots of things on talk radio where talk radio hosts were trying ebola to the border crisis, to isis. it's just spiraling out of cholesterol. >> the facts are often missing from the debate or exaggerated in the debate. there is for the question, you are right. they are calling this a failure on the president's spot that, isis is flooding terrorists across the border. we haven't seen proof of that, they're trying to see a turnout.
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we mentioned the president. he is not welcome. he has been campaigning a little bit. including in his home state, adopted home state of illinois. he was campaigning for a tough race. he is going to set an example and vote early. that's a huge die namic. one of the ways they think is by outhustling. out maneuvers to outwork other republicans. you mentioned colorado, early voting started there today. i wasn't going to use this i did bring this back. every voter is getting a ballot in the mail. how much does this clang the dynamic? i'll use this as an example. in 2012 on election day in iowa mitt rom fiworomney won. how much does this matter? >> i think it matters a lot. in colorado the fact that every voter will get a ballot in the mail is a wild card in that race. this is the area where democrats
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think they have a chance to really catch up. they're trailing in some polls and in swing states, like colorado. they showed if 2012 they could outwork and they got door knockers all out in the denver suburbs and the swing states asking people to return tear ballots if 24 hours and maybe that will be where they get the edge. >> maybe republicans, the super pack that love them are out there. 182,000 as of friday in iowa. we are pay see a change. >> i think that's a great question. have republicans learned a lesso lesson? >> obvious they have made a huge investment if trying to improve their investment. >> you expect the republicans to
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win in red states. democrats are holding the blue states. they are nervous and making plays in unconventional places, south dakota, georgia, it's whacky because you have an independent against the republican. you spent some time in georgia. a runoff. will we have a runoff or can a democrat when there? >> talk to her. she is convinced, she can win it if to have. both parties are starting to look towards january 6th. >> imagine that, we may not know who controls the senate. there could be a runoff in indiana and a runoff in georgia in january the day after the senate is supposed to convene. >> they may be sitting on tear hands to figure out who is in the chart she has surged ahead. the reason is she is beating david purdue over the head on the business record much the way president obama did against mitt romney in 2012.
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it's work, he's tried to explain it. now running ads in the state to defend it. yet, it doesn't seem to be working. >> the republican leadership here in town is furious. i think it's running a bad campaign. let me ask you a question, if mitch mcconnell wins his race and republicans take control of the senate, who would be the majority leader? mitch mcconnell? >> peck up usa today, you will see the ten point plan from ted cruz. the last time i checked, he's the junior from texas. what is he doing? the ten point plan. not normally the way the senate works. usually the junior guys refer to the senior guys. >> certainly not ted cruz. >> that is not his style but he has his following. there is a question as to home will be listening to his agenda. he is a 2016 potential candidate.
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i think it's about positioning for that. showing people he has an agenda. he is willing to take on people in his own party. >> have you checked in with sarah mcconnell? >> absolutely not. repeal common core, obamacare. >> run for president before this election is over, who would do such a thing? >> that guy. >> thanks for coming. alisyn, as i get back to new york i met a lot of nice people, ate great food. are they out there trying to raise support for her? some people waste money in politics. this is a public service. don't text and drive, politicians do silly things. good public service there. >> we'd like to see pictures of
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i'm just looking over the company bills.up? but it's always about the very thing we do best. is that what we pay for internet? yup. dsl is about 90 bucks a month. that's funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. wow that's fast. personally, i prefer a slow internet. there is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. don't listen to the naysayer. switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. . >> the 21-day pay be coming to an end with regard to thomas eric duncan him he died 12 days after initially being misdiagnosed by the hospital and
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sent home. two nurses who have treated him contracted the deadly virus. how prepared are other hospitals to deal with an ebola patient. let's bring in richard lundestock and dr. sanjay gupta. good morning. richard, thank you so much for joining us. i think we want to get reaction from you off the bat about texas presbyterian's apology over the week, putting out an ad in the paper. some will wonder about the accountability. should someone lose their job at texas presbyterian? >> i think issuing that statement the way they did and the communications that they have been providing is exactly the right thing to do. >> that oregon is being fully transparent. they had nurses and physicians ready to step in and take care of those patients as they do in
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tough times but they did now have clearly some challenges there, but that hospital has done everything it can to try to communicate to the public as they have learned what's happened. they have been fully accountable in that sense and will continue to be as they learn more about what actually happened. >> sanjay, other hospitals are learning from what went right and what went wrong in texas. i think a lot of people are wondering how can we feel confident knowing our american hospitals are prepared? should they feel confident? >> regarding the letter, i am not sure the dallas hospital was completely transparent from the start. that's little bit of a problem. i think they became increasingly transparent as they were forced to be trance parent. there is a best lesson that people learn from sixes like
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this and the transparency needs to be there throughout so the hospitals can learn and prepare. am i confident? let me tell you, if really remote areas of the world in central and westing a, they have been able to control ebola for four decades and with hardly any transmissions among the doctors without borders, only two over decades in the united states, we had two. they can do it in remote areas offing a, i am confident the hospitals can do it as well. they have to do it. implement the protocols that people know to have worked for decades. >> we have learned from you, sanjay, we can do it here in the united states if we have those biocontainment units, there is four in the united states. all the ebola patients with the exception of thomas eric duncan were treated. i want to play sound from dr.
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anthony fauci, the head of the nih. he was on "meet the press." take a listen. i'll get your reaction. >> we need to have more than just the four in which you have people that are pretrained so you don't come in and then that's the first time you start thinking about it. it can't just be for. >> so, richard, i'm curious. we understand it comes at a cost and at a, you know the cost of more equipment, more resources, more personnel. is that a realistic approach? >> first of all, we are blessed to have these four centers. secondly, we do refer patients all the time as their needs dictate with more serious conditions, need for higher level procedures and so on. so that's normal. what we want every hospital be able to do isly the ebola when a patient presents with a fever, a travel history to an infected area and so on.
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secondly, we want them to be able to diagnose, isolate as necessary, protect. protect the patient and the staff and then transfer, if necessary know who to call at cdc as we said earlier communicate with the staff, with the community as much as possible. so every hospital has to be ready to receive do what they can as appropriate. >> you and i know in many communities, the first line of defense is an urgent care. these urgent care facilities are defacto a lot hoff hospitals in the states. talk to me about that and are they well equipped to manage a patient that came in with some sort of travel history, would they know, would they handle, have the resources the equipment to hand him such a thing? >> well, they should, from the very reasons you mentioned. mikalah, we were thinking about ebola.
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patients with infectious diseases of all sorts do go into urgent care centers. they have been doing that all the time. they should be prepared to handle those. dallas doesn't paint a good picture when they they are they able to do thmt they should be able. there is a core principle here as well. that is as soon as you suspect someone might have an infectious disease, because they are sick, you isolate the person. you put them away from other patients then people go into water called universal precaution mode. that's what you said earlier the scan, protecting yourself from getting any sort of infection. so you >> well you know we just heard quest diagnostics, the nation's largest lab company told health care workers we're not ready to receive the lab samples because
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quarantine over, the fiance of the ebola patient that died and her family are symptom free and out of isolation. how did they avoid catching the deadly virus when two nurses became ill? this as the pentagon takes the virus head on with the emergency response team. >> for the first time, we're hearing from the officer that killed michael brown. said he felt threatened in the struggle with the teenager. hah will that testimony mean for
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the grand jury's decision. a woman travels while pregnant to start a new life over the ocean. don't miss kate and her baby live as she explores her roots. your "new day" continues right now. good morning. welcome to "new day," it is monday, october 20th. now 8:00 in the east. i'm chris cuomo with alisyn camerota. the world health organization claping the country has not had a new case of ebola in six weeks. breaking overnight, the family members of this man, duncan, who died in a dallas hospital, they are show nothing signs of infection after 21 days in quarantine. their isolation is over. moving forward, if a new case
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turns up anywhere in the united states, the pentagon plans to response a domestic team to help. on the containment front, cdc is close to finalizing new guidelines for health care workers treating ebola patient as. our coverage of this and the ebola crisis begins with senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen live in atlanta. what do we know this morning? >> good morning. we know nina pham, one of the nurses that took care of duncan, is in fair condition and resting comfortably. we don't have a commissioner report on amber vinson. we're told she's able to converse with her family. a family lawyer reiterating three times she called in her temperature before boarding the flight from dallas to ohio. new guidelines for health care
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workers like the two nurses are being taken into consideration. now the health care workers who worked with those two nurses are monitoring their health, also limited in their travel. that will continue until october 29th. now you mentioned that a -- here you see my colleague sante gupta all suited up. the quarantine is over for duncan's family that ended yesterday. his girl friend issued this statement. she said, we are so happy this is coming to an end. we are so grateful none of us has shown any sign of illness. our happiness is mixed with sadness at this time. we mourn duncan's loss. just at the time we thought we were facing a happy future together. >> there was a memorial service for mr. duncan this past weekend.
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alisyn? >> thanks for that update. he may not have made it to his office yet, but already being slammed for his job. klain is in choppy political waters. michelle is live at the white house. hi. >> to talk to people that know him personally, we hear him described a great manager, coordinator of people. he was appointed to coordinate the cdc says he doesn't need to be a doctor because there are so many already on the team. republicans, we've heard them call again and again for appo t appointment of an ebola czar. now the criticism is that the claim comes not from a medical field but a plittico. we're hearing hit from
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republicans and democrats as well. >> i'm disappointed we have someone who is a spin master and not someone who is a health care professional or an emergency response professional handling this. i think his only emergency response was the bush gore recount in 2000. >> we're hearing bipartisan criticism of the fact there isn't yet at least a travel ban to any countries affected by ebola. cdc says they're going to come up with what they call much stricter protocols. we're now seeing the pentagon develop a 30 person rapid response team to act within 72 hours of future cases of ebola many this country. >> thanks for breaking that down. >> there's a lot going on. we want to figure out what
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matters and why. let's bring in dr. richard carmona and dr. gupta to discuss how the medical community is responding to othebola. always a pleasure. thank you very much. overnight doctor, the new rules for dealing with # ebola patients from cdc. why now? they're more changes, more stringen stringent, fully covered. that's great. why did it take so long? >> it takes time. we see this all the time. there's a lull in activity. bad things go away, we come complacent. during that time there's upgrades in training, in science that need to be incorporated. they're catching up now. >> they've been doing this intense in west africa. you know this. are you being too generous to the cdc? >> i'm trying to be fair. it's very difficult. they need to be more aggressive and get out there now.
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we've hit the space of come p s complacen complacency. we've seen this over time. the intensity of training and checking on equipment, challenging ourselves all the time has to be there in the infrastructure. a patient may show up at any clinic, urgent care center. everybody needs to know how to get them in the system quickly. >> you're a doctor trying to heal the wounds, bandage what cdc has done. i'm trying to pick at the wound. sanjay, this new strike team we're hearing about, do you believe this is good and will help hospitals or is it a crutch? hospitals need to be able to do this job on their own? >> i think it's a good thing. if three options are this that every patient immediately gets transferred to another hospital. the other end of the spectrum is they take care of the patient in
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the hospital with no assistance. this strike team is a compromise between. i think it would be challenging if we have more and more patients to transfer all of them to one of these four hospitals. i don't think it's necessary. again, they don't provide a magic potion or wand in terms of treatment. as far as isolation goes, any hospital should be able to do that. doctors have been doing ice lagsz in tough areas of central and west africa a long time. we should be able to do it in hospitals. the fact that extra support could come in to review putting on and taking off of protective garb, to go through protocols again, drill, drill, train, train, is probably a good thing. >> i wanted a quick take from you sanjay. poll igs temperatures are always looking to take a shot. that's what they do. ron klain being a non doctor, little shocking to you at all? >> no, it was not that shocking to me. i sort of thought given how much
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dr. frieden and fouchy have been on this, for some other agency, department of transportation, department of defense, state, all that. i don't think that's a doctor's typical skill set. as long as frieden and fouchy stay engaged, it's a good thing. i'm curious if dr. carmona got a call on this. >> did you get a call? >> it's a real tough job. i think the point sanjay makes is an important one. we have to to look at the competency. >> core competency. >> exactly. ron is an insider, operative. people understand that. the question i keep getting from the public, when we have secretaries, deputy secretaries, why do we need another person to coordinate? what do these people do on a
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daily basis? >> your answer? >> i don't know. there's a must be of positions responsible. >> they weren't doing it? >> apparently if they were, it wasn't done well. >> boy, you are very generous in assessments. they were not coordinatincoordi. that's what texas presbyterian tell us. nurses give us a different story than the hospital. it wasn't getting done. 21 days, quarantine ed fiance a family members of are mr. duncan. they're cleared. we're hearing 21 days is old science. maybe it's 41 days because you need more time to figure this out. what's your take? >> science says it's about 21 days. there are scientists that are finding it could be as long as 40. we have to be cautious of that. science evolves. what we know today and what we're going to know in a year or
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two that we learned from this is going to be different. sanjay made the point we have to look at all issues, extract the best practices and move forward as quick as we can. >> this is a big question we're getting. these people who the loved ones of mr. duncan including his fiance, they were all over him when he was sick. we heard the stories about the towels and sheets. they don't get it and nurses do. why? >> despite the fact this is highly infectious, even people that get the infected body fluid on their skin, you're more likely to not get sick than get sick still. keep that in hind. by being around this and getting that infected body fluid doesn't mean you're automatically going to get sick number one. number two, mr. duncan when he was this the hospital, he was far more sick at that point.
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he was a lot more stuff not appropriate for morning television. a lot more in terms of bodily fluids and intensive care the nurses were providing. when at home, despite the fact he was in the apartment, he was going to the bathroom and taking care of himself. will there wasn't as much contact from bodily fluids from louise or others living in the apartment. this is a little of a -- it's no t a guarantee just because you come in contact you're going to get sick. you're more likely not to get sick is. >> thank you very much. we understand the more sick you become the more infectious you are. maybe that's the explanation of why they avoided it. >> thank you for the perspective. >> appreciate it. who we going back to? >> i'll take it. >> the u.s. dropping air supplies and weapons trying to fight back islamic militants. this is down play of potentially
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losing that city to a sichlts coalition air strikes continue through the weekend helping slow the advance of isis fighters in kobac kobani. the ceasefire friday was meant to allow for girl's release as early as today. it was not agreed to by boko haram. dozens have been killed in five attacks. talks continuing in nearby chad today. well it was quite a near miss by space terms. remember i told you about the the comet making its first visit to our solar system. it came within 87,000 miles of mars sunday traveling at 126 miles per hour. apparently it's the closest astronomers have ever seen. nasa mars orbiters had to get out of the way to avoid damage. we should see pretty cool photos
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in a few days. they're in the process of being processed to earth. they're stuck as we speak. he's well known playing hobbit films. he visited a group of school children offering words of wisdom and channelled his famous character to do it. >> in preparation for examinations, if you don't do division properly, do you know what will happen? you shall not pass. >> he should have had maybe some of that magic smoke. that would have been awesome. apparently the kids loved the performance. i love it. a little gandalf to motivate you. friends and family of hannah graham are fearing the worst after human remains were found over the weekend miles from
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where the uva sophomore were last seen. crews are looking for more clues behind a home. forensic testing is is underway to determine if the body is actually grahams. it was found miles from where another body was discovered four years ago just recently linked to the man suspected in graham's disappearance. jean is live from virginia for us this morning. what is the latest there jean? >> reporter: well alisyn the crime scene continues to be processed this morning. minutes ago the virginia state police crime scene investigation truck left this property. we're at county police headquarters now. yesterday 25 a law enforcement were at the scene processing the crime scene trying to find potential relevant evidence. what we have learned, it was the chesterfield sheriff department on a routine search saturday. shortly before noon it was decided to search behind an abandoned building on what they're calling abandoned property. what they found there, according
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to sergeant terry, was skeletal remains. close to the remains were tight black pants. we know -- we've seen the pictures -- the last clothing happen and a half was wearing was black pants. we're told the from processing of this crime scene may take until thursday n. reality they're putting back together a skeleton that has been missing five weeks. once that is done, it will be processed at chief medical examiner's office in richmond. an autopsy, cause of manner of death and if there's foreign dna on the black pants to point toward the perpetrator. >> thanks for the information. horrible for the family obviously. they're looking for closure. closure they said many times will come when this cannot happen to anyone else, when justice comes to whoever did this to their daughter, assuming
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this is their daughter. >> we're hoping they get answers. they're desperate for that. >> absolutely. another story, the michael brown t shootings. ferguson, missouri has been on edge. you know. that the officer's side of the story is coming out, starting to any way. we're going to ask the attorney for michael brown's family what he thinks about what may have been darren wilson's perspective in that moment and what it could mean to the grand jury. you'll want to hear this. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] great rates for great rides. geico motorcycle, see how much you could save.
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vehicle in in fear for his life. mr. brown reached for the gun. it was fired twice in the car. the first bullet struck mr. brown this the arm. forensic tests show mr. brown's blood on the gun as well as the interior gun panel and on officer wilson's uniform. >> it's a question that's easy to answer. will this potentially impact the grand jury? the answer has to be yes. the question is how much and why? let's ask darrel watts, an attorney for michael brown's family. counselor, glad to have you with us. what do you make of the situation in it's not completely news to you at all. >> not at all, not muze. several problems. number one, we continue to see various information leak office
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shooting. >> what does michael brown's a family think of this information that the officer saying this all started because michael brown reached for the gun? the officer thought he was trying to get the gun. >> well no. we knew all along there was a struggle at the car that existed. part of the problem in the case is how the initial interaction started any way as told by johnson. this officer came in and car almost hit michael. they were arguing they had an altercation at the car that escalated. michael was obviously there. the officer pulled the gun and shot michael while he was at the car. the difference here is that once michael left the car, the office per got out of the car and
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started -- continued to shoot at michael as he ran away. that's the difference in the case. >> here's the concern counselor as you know. if the officer reasonably believed and backed up by forensics to show that michael brown was reaching for his gun and theoretically trying to use it, if that's the forensics shows, he has a rational as a police officer which would include him exiting the car and pursuing brown with deadly force. >> you have to back up. before the officer makes the decision about pulling the gun. there's an altercation prior to him pulling the gun. michael was defending himself at the car. clearly, yes the officer made a decision to pull his gun. we've got to remember now,
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that's not when michael died. michael died later as the officer got out of his car as michael was running a we from him. the officer decided to shoot him as he ran away. michael stopped and try to surrender to the officer yet the officer continued to shoot. >> what does the autopsy show on michael brown's body? was there gun residue on his hands? >> i can't address that. we haven't gotten that testing back. there was some injury one of the injuries michael received had to be while he was at the car. >> why do you say that? >> the officer is testifying he shot michael once at car which is what the article said, the source of michael being shot once by the officer is the officer count given by the new york times. i haven't talked to the officer. >> the big concern will be especially there from your perspective, counselor parks, is
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that if michael brown was reasonably perceived by the officer to be trying to get his gun in the struggle with the officer and use it against him, he can use it as a threat to him and the community. he's a cop. they have a different set of rules. it comes down to analysis. how do you think this impacts the grand jury? if this is supported by forensics, is indictment less likely in your opinion? >> it shouldn't be chris. if nothing else, you have two competing stories here. it's not the grand jury's job to weigh that testimony. that's for a normal jury. what this grand jury is probable cause he certain wily shot mich and could be liable for the murder of michael. the real situation is that he should be indicted. indictment only means he should go to trial and there should be
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a public trial. it's not fair to his family for leaks to weigh the information, a prosecutor to died when the officer should testify in front of the grand jury or not testify, and what information they should get. it should be public. if it's public, we'll know it's fair and how the decision was made. right now it's done in the vacuum. it's totally unfair to his family and to the general public. >> mr. parks, thanks for joining us. we'll see what the grand jury decides in the next few weeks. thanks for joining us. >> he maybes a strong point. a jury decides whether your story or my story stands up. the grand jury just decides whether or not that trial should take place. >> yes. that's obviously what people in ferguson are calling for. we'll take you live to dallas. we are expecting new information about the ebola crisis any moment. we'll bring that to you as soon as it happens. plus we've been digging deeper in our roots.
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all right. here we go with five things you need to know for your day. 30 medical professionals are now on stand by to fly to any location in the u.s. where a case of ebola is uncovered. the u.s. dropping medical and weapons to kobani. coalition air strikes also helping push back isis fighters over the weekend. authorities in virginia are looking if for evidence in the area where human remains were found this weekend. officials are working to determine if they are indeed missing uva student hannah graham. the alleged ringleader of the 2012 benghazi attack that killed four americans is being a reigned today. 17 charges levelled against him today. he could face the death penalty. future hall of famer peyton
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manning now the career leader in touchdown passes. the broncos quarterback threw number 509 sunday night passing brett favre on the all time list. we always update the five, so join us online for the latest. we're a waiting a live news conference that's going to start any moment on the ebola crisis. we'll bring it to you live. >> we're expecting the mayor and county judge who coordinates what's going on there. apparently there's developments. we'll give it to you. kate bolduan is back and going to join us with her baby. she's going to talk about her journey to belgium and what she uncovered about her family's roots. really we're here for cecilia eve. >> she's smiling. >> she's already responding to
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when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. . apparently there are developments in dallas now. we're looking at a press conference that includes local officials, mayor mike rollins who's supposed to be there. the county judge is there. let's listen in and see what the development is. >> there is one person who will roll off later this morning due to the time they rode in the ambulance before it was taken out of service that mr. duncan rode in. there are four more people who were health care workers that
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saw mr. duncan on the 28th and continued to have contact with him after that time for some time. they'll be rolling off a little later. all of those 48 are well into -- 43 are off. one will be later today. the other four will be in the coming days. so that is very good news. i want to take you back to that aspect of this fight against ebola. mr. duncan again exhibiting symptoms either on the 23rd or the 24th. he was not placed in isolation until the 28 th. the disease detectives, mine of those there dallas health and human services, had to go out into the community immediately even before the team ps from th
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federal government got here and began doing contact traces. had we had a person who wasn't monitored and had been in the community with four or five days with another ebola case, this would have multiplied. the world health organization tells us that for each ebola case that is treated, two more come up. that's what we're seeing right now here even with american medicine. so, the worry for all of us was that due to the fact mr. duncan was out in the community for a time, that we would have a lot of disease contacts. well they were able to find those 48. i can remember mayor rollins and i meeting in a parking lot with
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one of our dallas county de epidemicoologist emily. he was a guest of the city and pes by ti presbyterian hospital. i wanted to bring them up here to praise them. they are a all young people. they're all pretty new from out of school. both at the county, state, feds. they've worked just so incredibly hard. they've declined to be on camera. they're afraid it might interfere with their disease tracing work. i've got a statement from one of
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them about the family. let me read that to you real quick. when our contact tracing began, working with mr. duncan's family and friends, they were understandably going through a very difficult time full of fear and uncertainty. however, throughout this monitoring period, this family has been nothing but cooperative and gracious. we were able to support them through difficult times and celebrate with them on the day they had been waiting for. it was a pleasure to not only to be let into the family's homes but also to be let into their lives. we understand this has been a trying time for the families, but we wish them all the best moving forward. >> we got our state and federal partners here with us this morning as well. i'm going to introduce all of them. before i do, i want to talk about the five children that
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will be returning to school. i want to ask for the community's help. i'm sure he'll speak to this as well. the these people, part of our community, are integrating back into our community. i talked to louise last night on the phone. her feeling for this morning was one of fear. fear of how she and the young men would be accepted, of how they would be treated, whether they would be seen as disease carriers. there's zero risk that any of those people who have been marked off the list have ebola. they were in contact with a person who had ebola, and the time period for them to get ebola has lapsed. it is over. they do not have ebola.
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they are people who have been through an incredible ordeal. they're people that need our compassion, our respect, our love. treat them the way you would want your own family treated if you were in their place, and they were the in yours. it's understandable there's a lot of people that are afraid. fear is normal. i see life through the eyes of a child as a parent. i know what it's like. i remember for myself what it's like that first time you step onto the high dive. young people were not designed to jump off of boards into pools. it's scary. sometimes we go up are there and have to come back down. sometimes we have to get daddy or mommy to go up there with us. if we look at what is going on and see that the lifeguards and our parents and everyone involved in the swimming pool is not lying to us, and that the
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high dive is not going to kill us, then the children jump off the high dive. that's a lot of what we have to do in this situation. we have to believe in science. >> just tuning the in, you're hearing county judge clay jenkins talk about parents helping their kids through situations. it's a little deceptive. he's using it as an example to say that kids who were thought to be exposed to ebola are now ready to go back to school. this is all good news. he's telling the community, y cannot live out of fear and treat these kits differently. there's somebody still being isolated, but it's all news from the press conference in dallas. >> they're celebrating milestones. he called it a happy press conference. you don't get those all the time. >> more happy news. >> it is time for our final installment of roots, a very
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special edition of our journeys home. cnn hosts and anchors traveling all over the globe learning about ancestors. this morning, kate bald wan and baby daughter sharing her journey to belgium and remarkable discoveries she discovered there. >> talk about live changing. i'm on tv with my baby. this doesn't happen. talking about life changing, the roots journey was life changing because i was about five months pregnant when we started this journey. you get to see me through my entire pregnancy in this piece. i grew up in a family where we didn't talk about the family tree so much. it wasn't priority. then being pregnant and starting this excursion and this journey and search, it took on a whole new meaning and very special
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meaning oh so quickly. >> i know nothing about my family. i'm sure my grandmothers will be horrified when i say. that i've heard so many stories about where my family came from and when they came over. it seems more important having answers and being able to fill out the family tree now that we're starting our family. to start the search through my family tree, i sat down with historian michelle erkenbrock. >> your grandmother's mother on your mom's side. she was the first generation to come into america from belgium. >> phyllis died in 1981 just two years before i was born. >> this is felicie flood, 70.
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>> i actually think that is my grandmother's dress. >> are you serious? >> is my grandmother living at my great grandmother's home? wow. first line i've learned so much. >> the next thing we're going to look at is her father's name was leon. he came over in 1912. the date on this document is february 17 th, 1912. there he is there in the manifest. >> this is the vessel they came over on? >> this is a picture. >> he was 28 when they did that. >> with that start of my family tree in hand, we of course had to take the journey overseas. 3700 miles to liege, belgium where my great, great grandfather leon and great, great grandmother lived before leaving everything behind for america. >> thanks so much. very excited to get started.
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first stop, the archives where the local historian found everything from marriage records to baptism records dating farther back than i could have ever imagined. >> i will show you another tree that a made for you instead of your small tree. i would show you -- >> are you knocking my ipad tree? >> no. this is felicie born 1910. >> i'm getting my grades mixed up. that's my great grandmother. >> it goes from left to right. young to old. >> oh my goodness. really? >> yeah. you see this one. >> he died in 1625. >> he had a son many 1596. i know you told me they date back even further. it's amazing. my oldest young relative
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baptized in 1596. four greats, five greats, six great, eight greats. >> before landing in bell gium, found out what they did for a living. >> he was a glass blower. >> he left behind his wife louise and headed to columbus, ohio. they found a street in the village where the family was known to have lived. >> we came to this street that still exist. you've made another connection. >> she's just told me there was a very well known family living there, the house just next to the pharmacy there. there was a very famous glass factory here. the factory was here. up the stairs there 50 meters
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away. she's absolutely sure. >> the house next to the pharmacy was where they were living. the glass factory was in a small street up there. >> let's have a look. with a little more investigating, we learned the glass factory was only recently closed the torn down. >> ten years ago the factory was still here. >> i've learned more more about who my family is. we've been able to see where my family lived, maybe even the street they lived on and the factory they worked in. the biggest lingering question is, what was behind the huge decision after so many generations to take that leap of faith, get on these ships, and travel all the way across the ocean to start a new life in america? >> we headed north. >> this is the start of the part
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of the voyage. >> luke showed me the place from where my ancestors sat sail on the red star line. >> how much did a ticket cost? >> today between 500 and 1,000 euros for a one way first ticket class. that is more or less 65 days of work for a factory worker like your family. >> that's a huge commitment. >> yes. i knew my great, great grandfather leon travelled to america in february 1912, but there's more. >> many in april of that same year, the titanic sank. >> april that same year. that's right. of course. >> just a few months after one of the most catastrophic events in time, leon bputs his family n
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a trip. >> i can't imagine even if i wasn't pregnant what that would be like. one of the big questions i had is why did people want to go to america? >> there's not one reason. everyone went for a certain reason. i think the main thing is that all of them were looking for a better future, also trying to build a better life. >> i think that's what i'm learning. that's what they were trying to do. that american dream to begin that american dream. it all began right here. i had no idea what my family went through just to get on the boat even before they started their voyage. makes me proud. it really is a humbling experience. it makes me really, really proud to call them my family. having learned more than i ever thought possible, i left belgium to continue following my family's trip to america eventually taking many me to ohio. the toledo museum of art, i try
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my hand at the family business of glass blowing, the profession we believe brought my family to america in the first place. >> let's do a red or pink mix. i'll make it for my baby. the glass technician walked me through the not so easy task of making a simple glass flower. we work immediately with the hot glass? >> yes immediately. this is stainless steel solid rod called a punti. are you sure you haven't done this before? >> this furnace is 2150 degrees. >> 2150 degrees? okay, that's hot. oh my god. that is so unbelievably hot. >> every movement you make has an effect on the glass. >> absolutely. cannot believe i'm playing with glass like this. just minutes later -- oh my
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gosh. i could do this all day. this is really fun. after following their lives from belgium all the way to ohio, i finally got to meet my great, great grandparents. laid to rest here at st. joseph's cemetery outside columbus. >> she should be right over here. there she is. louise, wife of leon rousselle. nice to meet her after this long journey making it over here with a 2-year-old and six months pregnant. now let's find my great great grandfather. leon, 1885-1947. this is really, really cool to finally meet them. about all you can say. >> since i was in ohio, there was one last stop i had to make.
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hi grandma. good morning. to tell my mom and grandmother everything i had uncovered. let me show you this family tree. they put this together for me in belgium. this blew my mind how far back they could actually reach for us. >> oh my gosh. >> all the way back to 1625. >> 1625? >> yeah. my grandmother knew her grandfather leon rousselle was a glass glower. >> really? >> yeah, it is. >> it looks like a movie set. he wore a circle in his teeth. he had to have them pulled. he got false teeth. he would take them out and put in his pocket. he couldn't blow with them in. >> it turns out my great grandmother who sailed to the united states when she was only 2 years old was just as strong a woman as i had hoped. >> what was she like?
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>> every one of them that knew her adored her. >> there wasn't anything she didn't think she was conquer? >> she was like a wonder woman back then. she worked until time she retired. >> i love this photo. it's a family trait i hope now to pass on to my own daughter. >> gertrude. that could be on the baby name list. nothing against gertrudes of the world. >> you could have made a beautiful gertrude. >> what a voyage kate. honestly. >> it was amazing. she would like to address the class. maybe later. the thing that blew me away was how difficult the journey was. we know it, but what they in third class had to go through to
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get on the ship to get here. they had to have a medical examine. had to have clothes sterilized. they had to take an half hour shower and be doused with vinegar and another chemical before they could get on say boat to start this life in america. it blew my mind and made me so proud to know my family a little better. we wouldn't be here otherwise. and to be able to share wit her. >> the newest branch of the family tree. it's incredible they were able to find eight or nine generations. >> that's just my mom's mom's side. i have sisters. >> do you want to talk? >> i don't care about the piece. i've seen it already. i love kate and know her backgrou background. i can't believe what a beautiful baby you and michael head. >> she's putting on a stellar performance. >> i was so looking forward to this being so difficult.
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it's going to be hard. i don't know if she'd take and all this. this kid has done everything perfect. >> how are you feeling? how is new life and schedule? >> is it so amazing. it's one of the things that everyone tells you you will not know the love until you have your own baby. it's true. i said to michael, why didn't we do this a whole lot sooner? he said i don't know, someone was working. >> i know who a i am. >> i'm totally changed. i'm a puddle of love. >> we love you and your puddle of love. >> we want to point back to the roots special because tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern, anderson and i host a two hour special at 9:00 eastern and pacific. watch all 13 stories including kate's as well. >> it's special we could all do this. awesome. >> thank you so much for bringing the baby.
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>> i'm up any way. the sleep schedule hasn't changed. >> every time i make a mistake, i get a quick text, hah hah hah. good news this morning, people no longer monitored in dallas. more should be cleared soon. we'll have more on the newsroom with carroll costello after the break. we're going to do loving up. >> see you soon everybody. oll c break. we're going to do loving up. >> see you soon everybody. cost break. we're going to do loving up. >> see you soon everybody. ♪searching with devotion
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