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really appreciate it. i'm jake tapper, we hope to see you on election night. have a great night, and of course, remember to vote. good evening, everyone, thank you for joining us. we have breaking news, on many fronts tonight, including the sad news that publisher ben bradley has died. a truly humble hero who saved the life and ducked the spotlight, and a boyfriend who didn't let a secret service detail stop him from doing what he knew his girlfriend would. the people will smile, and so will you, first, the cameraman infected with ebola and being treated in omaha, nebraska, is virus-free tonight. and nina pham, one of two nurses infected with the ebola virus
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also appears to be making a recovery. doctors in bethesda, maryland, have upgraded her condition from fair to good. and formally officials have issued new rules on travel to this country from the worst-hit parts of africa. joining me, elizabeth cohen, what is the latest there? what more do we know about his condition? >> well, we know he had a negative test from the cdc lab. usually they do two tests a certain amount of time apart, just to make sure. i imagine this is what they did in this case. he is now free to go to home in rhode island. and really this is a testimony on how this disease can be treated often if the person is caught early and this gentleman caught his disease early. he got a blood transfusion early and got an experimental blood transfusion early. >> he had a blood transfusion
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from dr. kent brantly, who recovered early. >> and how about nina pham. >> we know from previous statements she is talking, eating and sitting up. we also saw from a video that the texas hospital put out she was able to talk and communicate again. again, she caught her ebola early, the minute her temperature spiked she alerted the authorities. she was put in the hospital. she also got a blood transfusion from dr. brantly very early. it is so important to catch this disease early and treat it early. >> let's look at the travel rules, anybody coming from guinea or sierra leone, they will have to go through six airports, correct? what is the purpose of that? >> well, the purpose is so they will have to go through a variety of airports so they want you landing at one of these five
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airports. they don't want you landing anywhere else. because only at these five airports will they have the screening. now, most of the people coming from west africa were landing at one of the airports anyhow. they want to be sure if you land in west africa, they are going to take your temperature and how yo you are feeling and take your direct information. >> and coming from west africa, to the united states that will still be the case? they will be able to track that? >> right, i guess what they will do is look at the pass port. i think one of the reasons they have done it, they just want to discourage people from going around the rules. so will it be possible to skirt the rules? you know, probably, rules are often skirtable. but you will know if you're breaking the law if you take a bunch of connecting flights to break one of these rules. >> all right, elizabeth, thank you. and i want to show you in
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pyongyang, korea, on board, jeffrey fall arrested back in may, all for the crime of leaving a bible at his hotel. right now, he is heading home by way of guam and then across the pacific. monitoring developments from seoul. first of all, do we know how it came about and why exactly he was released? >> well, anderson, we don't have the exact detail, from what we can tell from what they said, it sounds like pyongyang said, we're going to release him. come and pick him up. washington had to send flights over to pyongyang to pick him up. we had a u.s. plane on the tarmac in pyongyang, something we don't see very often. the state department has been talking behind the scenes. they said they offered to send a u.s. envoy to pyongyang as well, to try to secure the release of
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three u.s. citizens, only one was released today. they also say they want to thank the government of sweden, washington has no direct ties with pyongyang so they have to rely very heavily from sweden to coordinate this. and they say they want to thank them for their help. >> and our correspondent, will ripley interviewed him. >> i admit my guilt to the government. and also, the requests for forgiveness to the people and the government of the dprk, so time is getting urgent, within a month i should be facing trial. >> do we know if he actually stood trial? >> it appears he did not. of course the information is just from north korea itself, but they more than likely would have publicized it if they had gone through a trial. now, what we know really is in
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north korea's eyes, his crime is less serious than the crime of the other two u.s. citizens who are currently in detention. kenneth bey, who has already spent two years in the country either in hard labor or in the hospital as he has bad health. and jeffrey, by leaving a bible, in a northern port city, his crime in north korea's eyes was not quite as serious, but of course, anything to do with religion will make pyongyang very nervous. anything that is not state-sponsored is completely illegal and banned. and as you can see in the case of kenneth bey, it will be penalized heavily. all right, developments from the other side of the world, either one of which could affect us in the united states. american weapons dropped into iraq and eastern syria,
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reportedly, though, falling into the wrong hands. also, a shadowy terror group, chief national correspondent security jim sciutto joins us with the latest. first of all, these american weapons falling into isis's hands, what do you hear about it? >> well, the u.s. dropped some two dozen pallets, an urgent move to get weapons, and the syrian kurds defending the city of kobani. when it happened they saw one of those two dozen pallets go astray. and the military said they sent that to destroy the pallet on the ground. it is possible the second pallet didn't reach the intended recipients, or it is possible the military said there was a firefight after this and a pallet was dropped on kurdish-controlled ground and ended up in isis hands. but i'm told by pentagon officials if isis indeed did get it and these things look authentic that it is not
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militarily significant in the whole scheme of things there. partly in light of the fact that isis has already captured a tremendous amount of american-supplied weapons in iraq, when you think of all the humvees and such things you see in their hands. >> and i understand, he told you isis has been helped by edward snowden. >> he said the revelations of edward snowden that revealed these programs have led isis and other groups to change the way they communicate. he said they are using encryption more and changing their service providers. and a big worry in some case, anderson, they have completely gone off the grid, fallen off the face of the earth. because of that he said there are senior terror groups that the u.s. was keeping track of and that they no longer have tabs on. that is a worry. >> you also asked him about the
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khorasan group, the other targeted group. did he say anything about them. >> it has been a month, you remember on the first strikes, they were targeted at the khorasan group, and we really haven't heard about it. the officials said the reason we struck them is that they were planning an imminent attack on u.s. interests or soil. i said okay, what do you know now a month later? did it diminish the threat? he said no, that one night of strikes in any circumstances is not going to do that. and while they do believe it had an effect they don't think it is taking away the seriousness of this threat and certainly has not eliminated this group of former al qaeda leaders plotting to attack america. >> all right, jim sciutto, appreciate the update. we have a lot more ahead in this hour. i always like to remind you if you want you can set your dvr to
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breaking news, authorities say to expect more charges against derek van, who has been charged with killing three women. he has led investigators what appears to be the dumping ground of bodies. they're searching the area right now, not knowing what they will find but worried what they will find. details from poppy harlow. >> reporter: the grim duty of searching for more possible victims in gary, indiana. why are you in this area specifically? >> we're in this area, for the reason, some of the bodies of the victims were found in this immediate area. >> abandoned homes here used as a dumping ground for at least six women murdered in cold blood. police want to know if there are more. >> the individual that committed these crimes, his m.o. was to put these dead women in abandoned houses. >> they just need to give the houses away, like you say people are getting killed in the
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houses. >> do you know any of the women who were found dead? >> no, but i don't leave the house after 8:00. >> the prime suspect for the murders, 43-year-old darren van who admitted he strangled the 19-year-old and left her lying nude in the tub. >> they're somebody's daughter, sister. >> the son of a woman who was married to him spoke to the police. >> i said he was a nut case, i said to not allow him in my home because he just creeped me out. >> darren van's criminal history spanning at least ten years, is troubling. in 2004, he threatened to burn his then-girlfriend up while holding a lighter and gas can, a felony that landed him in jail.
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in 2009 he was convicted of aggravated rape and served time in jail. gary, indiana police say that vann was monitored by the sheriff's department. >> they go out and check their place of residence and see how they're living and see if they're in compliance. >> given the fact that darren vann was monitored as recently as september and everything you say checked out do you think that the system needs to change so something like that doesn't happen again? >> well, it is a possibility that it can always be tweaked and there can always be changes. >> it is an understatement to say that marvin clinton agreed with that assessment. his girlfriend is one of the murder victims. >> she was a loving, kind person, big-hearted person, it is really sickening because of the fact you have a convicted sex offender, registered sex offender, and i feel that any
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sex offender should be monitored closely by any state that they live in. >> and poppy harlow joins us now from hammond, indiana, so darren vann is a registered sex offender, but in texas where he was charged with raping a woman, he was deemed as low risk. >> yes, that is very surprising that he served only five years in prison. look, authorities here say they just didn't have the resources to monitor all the sex offenders here all the time. the sheriff's department admitted to us that they only once have checked on darren vann, and that was in september just to make sure he lived where he was supposed to live. that is really the extent to where the check went. we know in gary, indiana, he confessed to all seven of the murders. interestingly, he actually was in the police squad car over the weekend when they found all of these six other bodies.
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he took the police to each of the abandoned homes where they were. but again, i think the real issue here is are things going to change. you have at least seven murders, this man confessing to them. someone who had such a long litany of criminal background and was back on the street with very little to no monitoring. >> wow, poppy, thank you for the reporting, i appreciate it. there is more on this story and others on cnn.com, but just ahead a lot more at this hour. will officer darren wilson be indicted for the death of michael brown. cnn has more as the grand jury's decision looms. plus, how about the chicago voter who made a funny, slash cheeky remark to president obama. how did he know the president would welcome the chance to banter. i'll ask him about that next. he and his girlfriend join us next. just take a closer look. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional... or managing your investments on your own.
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. ben bradley, the legendary editor of "the washington post" has died, at the age of 93. we'll talk to carl bernstein, the legendary reporter during the watergate years who was
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assigned by ben bradley as well as bob woodward to reveal the goings on. and ben bradley's editing of their reporting ultimately went to bring down the president. president nixon, we'll talk to carl shortly. in ferguson, missouri, the calls for justice with michael brown are getting louder with many in the city saying this only justice they will accept is an indictment of officer darren wilson. that is their interpretation of justice, and of course there is no guarantee there will be an indictme indictment. today, the governor announced plans to create a commission to examine the events. sarah sidner has more. >> reporter: on any given night, tension goes from zero to a 100 in seconds in ferguson.
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nightly protests sometimes end in arrests, but this is nothing compared to what some of the demonstrators say will happen if the grand jury does not indict police officer darren wilson in the killing of unarmed teenager michael brown. the city still bears the scars of the frustration here. the pastor has been in ferguson throughout the turmoil. he participates in the protests and has been arrested twice. he talks to us as we walk by the burned out quick trip near the center of where the protest first started. >> democracy is on fire, and we're called to be the fire. >> you're okay with things going up in smoke? >> i mean, it is not my preference, no. but i'm more concerned about the conditions that produced this. that the simmering poverty, the oppression, i'm far more
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concerned about the conditions that produce the burning of buildings. >> the frustration that people feel? >> yes, our children are in a tremendous amount of pain. >> what started out as an explosion of anger over the police shooting of michael brown has turned into a movement that has not stopped since the day brown was killed august 9th. the idea that officer brown may not be indicted and what it means to the town has state and city officials on edge, today, the governor announced a formal commission to study and find solutions to the underlying social and economic conditions fuelling the unrest in the wake of michael brown's killing. >> are you worried what might happen when the grand jury decision is made and announced? >> when you have this level of energy and what has happened over the last 73 days you can rest assured that we are focused and concerned about what could be the most problematic of
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scenarios. >> but pastor seiko observes other reactions. >> the only word that would have mattered that could have possibly began the process of some symbol of justice is the creation of a special prosecutor or the announcement of the indictment of darren wilson, the officer who viciously killed michael brown. >> police have said that wilson was defending himself from michael brown. >> what do you say to people who say the justice system is going through its cases, let it work. >> the justice system? this justice system? which has a wonderful set of facts to support the way it has engaged police who have taken black lives. this justice system. >> sarah joins us now, what more
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do you know about this commission? i mean, will it have any kind of power? exactly how will it be set up? >> you know, we asked the governor that. what kind of power or teeth does this commission have. he talked about things like it is going to do a wide-ranging unflinching study of the situation there in light of what has happened. in light of the rest and trying to solve some of the problems in the community and economically and socially and education. he talked about bringing in expertise and having the commission create some very specific goals and get them done. but it does not have the kind of teeth that the protesters want. and that is the ability to say good-bye to the police chief of ferguson, to have him resign and to have the prosecuting attorney to charge wilson. they do not have those powers and the protesters say that is what they want and they're not real happy with what they're hearing from the governor. >> all right, thank you, sarah, joining me, sunny hostin, and
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mark represented george zimmerman who was acquitted in the death of trayvon martin. and what do you make of the information that this perhaps is being leaked from the grand jury or other sources to try to kind of let people anticipate that there may not be an indictment? >> well, i have to tell you, it is remarkable that the grand jury information is being leaked. that, in and of itself is remarkable. >> not necessarily from the grand jury, but it could be from federal authorities or others. >> well, we don't know. but grand jury proceedings are supposed to be secret. that is the law. and so just the notion that the information is being leaked is bizarre. i think it is rather convenient that the information being leaked is the testimony of officer wilson. that in and of itself is causing some concern. and i think that what is interesting is when you hear about officer wilson's conduct he says he feared for his life.
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michael brown grabbed his gun. well, i don't know, because that still doesn't explain why according to certain witnesses, he still shot michael brown while he was surrendering or had his hands up. and all of that information tells me that perhaps there won't be an indictment. and they're trying to ready the public for what could happen. >> mark, what about that? a former st. louis police says he believes that may happen, is that common to lay groundwork to ease the impact of an explosive outcome? >> yes, in the very, very unique world of the high profile case is, like the michael brown case is you have to understand that the government's role may well be one where there is information to insulate the public. i don't like when information is
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leaked out to be knowledge for one side or the other. but it would make sense the way the information is released that they're doing it for a purpose beyond the information itself. >> alderman, what do you make of the mood right the fact that officer wilson may not be indicted. obviously, the tensions are high, we saw people shouted off the air, people yelling that cnn is being run by zionists? what is going on? >> yes, tensions are high. people are upset and they have been saying for over 70 days now that they did not believe that this prosecutor would deliver a fair result. and i do believe that we've set ourselves up for the worse case scenario where this thing could be solved or determined behind closed doors in a very no non-transparent way, the way the information is being leaked. this doesn't give a lot of respect about the process or
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give people a lot of faith in the process. >> alderman, do you think it is being leaked to soften the blow? >> perhaps, what we need to do right now is not just worry about pr, but worry about public safety. and many people are concerned about what is going to happen if this grand jury comes back with a non-indictment. and i -- and i think that the county prosecutor, frankly, should have known about this. and the governor should have used his opportunity when he had it to replace this prosecutor. and frankly i think there is enough evidence just to warrant the indictment from the prosecutor without a grand jury process, which would be the worse case. >> the information i have, we, the african-american population, the rest of us are looking at the case and tying all hopes of a civil right justice on one indictment or one case. and that is a horribly dangerous thing to do. there have been problems with the criminal justice system and
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the way they treat young black males for a long time. but if we focus on one case and say unless there is an indictment in this case the justice system failed then we're giving way too much power, for the facts of one case and not looking at the overall picture. and i believe we as journalists and certainly as alderman have a responsibility to focus on more than just one case. >> i agree with what mark is saying, bottom line it is not only about this case. we've seen a change in this country certainly from the george zimmerman case. th then we went to michael dunn, then mcbride, there is a fatigue in the african-american community mark when justice not being done when you see the death of a young african-american -- >> renesha mcbride --
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>> bottom line he didn't even have to take this before the grand jury. a case like this, a prosecutor goes in front of it for himself. >> had he not taken it in front of a grand jury, we all would have been frustrated. which by the way he said he would make the proceedings public afterwards is the best way to handle it. 12 people look at a case and decide whether or not to go forward. we have to believe in the process. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. >> marko 'mara, and sunny hostin. coming up, more on ben bradley, who died today after an equally legendary life.
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anyone who does what we do owes a debt of gratitude to people who came before us, journalists who get it right, reporting without fear or favor even if it means taking on the powers that be.
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few did it better than ben bradley, and nobody did it with more flair or style than he did. he championed a pair of young reporters, bob woodward and carl bernstein, who reported the watergate scandal and brought the american president. ben bradley died of natural causes, he was 93. carl bernstein joins us now, i'm so sorry for your loss. i mean, the career of ben bradlee, spanning so far, what was he like to work for? >> he was the most galvanizing, remarkable figure to work with and for. and you know, those are kinds of cliches that people use, except this was really the case, he was
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sui generis, there was a kind of physicality the way he presided over the news room, all about getting the story. but his life was really about the truth. there has never been anybody that i have known in this profession that -- it just had an absolute standard about the truth. and he would dress you down pretty well if he thought that in any way you had not done -- a bradlee interrogation was quite something to go through. but -- >> you also can't overstate the professional risks that he took along with you and bob woodward, to stand behind reporting that ultimately brought down president nixon. >> i'm just sitting here at bob's house, at woodward's, and we just had a good hug and cry.
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and we were over at the house earlier today. but i'm sitting here reading this interview that bob and i did with ben for all of the president's men, that was done on july 16th, 1973. and on every page of this taped interview is you hear this remarkable voice. and it is all about getting the story, getting it right. the responsibility that you have to the institution, to your readers. to the truth. perseverance. and he was a hands-on editor in the sense of talking to his reporters. he didn't tell them where the story was. he said you go get the story. and there was a story bob and i like to tell about when the movie "all the president's men" was made and jason robards was
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chosen to play ben. he was given a script. he said i can't do this. it's all the same, all bradlee does is go through the news room all day and say where is the effing story, and we said, that is what he does. >> that is what he did. >> and look, you know, he was hands-down, he had this instinct -- he took the profession somewhere it had never been. and i don't mean just a watergate story. there is what he did with the pentagon papers and did "the new york times." but he understood the role of the press in a democracy. and that where there is darkness that we've got to have light. and that that is what we're all about. and he had this instinctive genius for saying okay, go with it. and then there were times where
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he would say you don't have it yet. go get another source. >> and i mean, he cared about the truth. i mean, that is at the core of what you wanted. >> there is the only -- ben was as tolerant about so many things as anybody that i know. also there was this utter joy to be with him. i mean, obviously, we have this bond, woodward and bradlee, and i, but just to be around him as anybody can tell you is just a remarkable experience. and tolerant of almost anything you can imagine except taking the short cut with the truth. and that is the only time i ever saw him dress anybody down. and he has no tolerance for it. >> and carl, you speak of him in the first person still, in the present. and i think -- it has to be hard to imagine that he is gone. >> it really is. bob and i, have been here --
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we've known this has been coming for a while. and the moment that it happened, we just -- you know, took a deep breath. and -- we really ought to think -- forget about bob and me for a minute and think about what this man did for our country. and did for our profession. there has been nothing like it. >> and there will not be another one like him. >> it has been a great honor to have been his friend, to work with him. it is -- you know, he was amazing. and will continue to be in our memory. >> well, carl, thank you so much for talking to us again, i'm so sorry for your loss and hard to talk about ben bradlee in the past tense. up next, a couple in chicago who had a voting experience today that they will certainly
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the woman who was voting right next to the president got a huge shock when her fiance took the opportunity to speak with the president. i'll speak with the couple in a moment and they are a real joy to talk to. but first, watch the voting reaction, you will not see the young woman's fiance, you will hear his voice. >> did he just say that? i am sorry, please excuse him. >> now, there is an example just embarrassing me -- just for no reason. >> just for no reason whatever. >> i knew he was going to say something -- >> i can't believe mike -- i was just mortified.
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>> so that is the story they will tell at parties for years to come. right now, aia cooper and mike jones join me. >> so i love what you guys difficuldid. aia, just walk me through this, you didn't know the president would be there. what happened when you first saw him? >> it was crazy, he was kind of addressing the media. and he came over and took our hands, i was like oh, he just shook my hand, the people were like, you're going to go stand next to him. i'm like i have to go stand next to him. >> you didn't want to stand next to the president? >> no, too much pressure. the next thing i know, they were like you, here, stand. i'm like okay. >> i understand all along, you thought mike would say something.
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>> yeah, that is just mike's personality. >> so he has done it to people before? >> yeah, yeah, it is a good thing, he just does some soft-spok spontaneous things. >> well, mike, were you thinking i'm not going to do it this time. this is the president of the united states. i'm not going to embarrass anyone -- >> no, not for one minute. i knew this was a once in a lifetime kind of opportunity. >> so you knew when you saw the president -- i love that aia's first impression was oh, my gosh, that is the president. yours was like, i'm going to step up my game and embarrass her on a presidential level. >> that is right, when i saw him in the room i was shocked for one moment. i'm like wow, that is the president. and i was pretty much scheming. >> it is funny, when you're in the room with the president, usually everybody is hurried, nervous, people stand around, maybe some take pictures.
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but nobody is thinking about trash-talking the president. >> all i heard was shuttering of cameras, and lights and flashing. that is all it was. the silence -- >> but that didn't stop you. >> and i don't want anybody to think i wanted to give out the impression that the president made a move, not at all. it was completely organic. just something i said because i saw them right next to each other. and i saw her shaking -- as she was attempting to go do her ballot. >> so now, explain what you said exactly. >> as i walked past, i said i know you're the president, but don't touch my girlfriend. i couldn't help it. i couldn't help it. >> now, was there ever a moment that the president didn't know if you were kidding? or do you think he knew right from the get-go? >> i think he knew from the beginning because i gave him a smirk as i walked by. the tone of my voice, she knew off the top and started laughing. that lightened up the mood.
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>> i was worried the secret service would get up all in your business and be nervous on their ear phones, like oh, he is talking to the president. >> i got response from family and friends, they thought i was pretty bold. they thought the same thing would have happened. >> so when you heard what mike said were you just blushing? >> i was blushing, and in my head i was thinking oh, my gosh, just please shut up. please! >> and then the president leaned in for a hug and a kiss? >> a hug and a kiss, yeah, yeah, michelle, please don't come after me. >> now, mike, when you saw the president hugging and kissing your girlfriend, did you think wait a minute, i'm going to say something else, or did you just think wait a minute i'm going to let my girlfriend just have this moment? >> you know, i thought about it. but i think i did my job. she definitely had an experience to remember. i didn't want the president to think i was serious so i kind of left it alone.
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i saw the wink after that, and that was it. it was just all fun and games. >> well, mike and aia, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, take care. >> mike and aia cooper, amazing. coming up, a travel warning, you're going to want to stick around for this. the ridiculist is next. you want to cut through the noise of an overwhelming amount of analysis. [ all talking ] you want the insights that will help you decide which ideas to execute and which to leave behind. you want your trades executed in one second or less, guaranteed, and routed with institutional-quality technology. look no further. open an account and find more of the expertise you need to be a better investor. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night,nd. and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people
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californians are discovering the real risks behind prop 46. it was written and paid for by the trial lawyers to make them millions... while, for the rest of us, health care costs go up. no wonder every major newspaper in the state opposes prop 46.
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they say 46 "overreached in a decidedly cynical way." it's a ploy "for trial lawyers to enrich themselves." and prop 46 has "too many potential drawbacks to be worth the risk." time to vote no on prop 46.
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. time for the ridiculist, tonight we have a travel warning for all americans, not from the government, but from the grouchy government of televangelists. recently, he was asked about a planned mission to kenya, some were concerned about him going to kenya, robertson said there was nothing to worry about. and then he said this. >> you have to be careful about aids, the towels could have aids. >> that is right, do not even get him started on the wash cloths with other diseases, if pat robertson you somehow missed all the research and the depth and information, you cannot get hiv if you share towels. now, if a guy has shared towels it is true, he might be gay.
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even though, there is no guarantee, some people just love to share. i have to say one thing about robertson's opinions, when it comes to things like ebola and aids, he is kind of measured in his opinion. >> i was there during the ebola break, and we were helping people, there was not all this panic. >> if there is one thing you can say about pat robertson, he is anti-panic, i mean, why panic about ebola when the bath mat is trying to give you a disease, and the food will kill you. >> if you're overseas, don't drink ice in any drink because the water is not pure. be careful of ice cream and milk, because the milk may not be pasturized. >> do not eat ice cream when you go to italy, i'm telling you, everybody says the gelato is great, but it is going to kill you. >> everything overseas, they
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have bacteria overseas, you just can't even imagine. i'm starting to think maybe we would be better not traveling at all. right here in the good old united states, except steer clear of san francisco and that is of course where all the gay people live, and pat robertson thinks they have a way of giving you the stuff, what he called aids in this classic clip last year. >> you know what they do in san francisco, some of the gay community they want to get people, so if they got the stuff they will have a ring, you shake hands, and the ring has a little thing where you cut your finger. >> really? >> really. >> how much did they pay that woman to sit there like a zombie? i mean, do you think she believes what pat robertson is saying, or do you think she just thinks, he is my boss, better smile. really, rings? that is what the gay people want to do to you in san francisco, stick you with the rings. summing up, if you are going to
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san francisco, don't shake hands with anyone. if you're going anywhere overseas don't eat the ice cream, and whatever you do don't have unprotected sex with a towel in ken insiya, thanks pat. that does it for us. the following is a cnn special presentation. >> for more than 30 years the reporters and correspondents of cnn have been bringing you stories from around the world. >> tonight, though, they tell you stories you have never heard before. their own, this is "roots, our journeys home". >> ♪ ♪ ♪ but i know where to start. so wake me up when it's all over. when i'm wiser in the morning