with chris cuomo, kate boldaun and michaela pereira. >> welcome to "new day," it is wednesday, october 22nd, 6:00 in the east, i'm chris cuomo joined by alisyn camerota. an american held in north korea is heading home this morning. jeffrey fowle is en route to an air force base in ohio after being picked up by a u.s. military jet in pyongyang, he had been held for five months. his crime? leaving a club at a bible for foreign sailors. he admitted it. but it remains unclear this morning, why north korea decided to release fowle. >> as fowle heads home there are questions about what this means for kenneth bye and matthew miller, the other two americans still detained by the north. and the regime's reclusive leader, kim jong-un has made yet

another public appearance, an attempt to stifle the rumors that his leadership is in jeopardy. let's bring in cnn's will ripley. live from tokyo. he had a rare interview with all three detainees recently. was there any sign that one of them would be

dangerous threat to the jong-un. >> i admit my guilt to the government and signed a statement to that effect. >> he begged to go home to his family and pleaded for hem from the u.s. government. >> i need to let people know that i'm getting desperate. i'm getting desperate for help. >> we're preparing for the worst-case scenario. >> fowle's attorney says his family was preparing for the long haul, years of hard labor, just like the two other americans held in north korea. missionary kenneth bae, convicted of a religious plat to overthrow the regime and matthew miller convicted of committing hostile acts for tearing up his tourist visa and seeking asylum. >> we urge the immediate release of the other two. >> the u.s. state department says work continues to secure the release of miller and bae, but won't reveal why the secretive regime allowed fowle

to board this plane and make his long-awaited journey home. >> i think we'll let the north koreans speak for themselves why they decided to do this, why now. >> and this morning, the north koreans are speaking for themselves. giving cnn an exclusive statement within the past few minutes, saying fowle's case was dismissed and he received a special dispensation from the north korean leader, kim jong-un. what north korea is not talking about the is the fate of the other two detained americans, kenneth bae and matthew miller, who have already been convicted and are currently serving time inside north korea. chris, alisyn? >> do me a favor, stay with us, i want to get your sight into what we're hearing in the latest statement. i'm reading it as you were reporting it. let's continue the conversation. keep will and let's bring in bobby ghosh, cnn global affairs analyst and managing editor of.

comrade kim jong-un, in deference to the agreement between the dprk, north korea, and u.s. what agreement? >> we don't know anything about any agreement. either the koreans are making this up, which is not beyond them to do that. or there's some sort of a secret deal that has been made, which is less likely. >> not that secret, right? >> no, not that they're saying it out loud. we know that the north koreans don't do anything for purely altruistic reasons, so if they released mr. fowle, there must be something they're expecting in return or are promised. >> will, is your head anywhere on what agreement would be in place? and if widespread

alleged human rights abuses that were detailed in the u.n. report this year and of course, kenneth bae, a missionary accused of a christian plot to overthrow the regime. he's been held longer than any other american. those two other americans' cases are much more complex. which may be why fowle is the first to be allowed out. >> bobby, help me understand this. because there's something about it that's inherently nonsensical. yes, fowle was there five months. hadn't been tried yet. basically just left a bible in a place and that was seen as offensive. because even though you have state-sanctioned religion, churches. this was seen as outside of

that. but why him? >> the koreans -- >> we're very hard labor. >> hard labor.

and that shows you how serious it is. >> i don't know about the translation here. but it's interesting that they use the word in deference to an agreement this is a country that's been openly hostile and contemptuous of the united states. and to use the words "in deference" "out of respect of" that's a big deal. if there were a deal, don't you think the u.s. would have come out and said we've made an agreement. this has to be a black eye. the way you describe the dprk. what makes them so different from all the other bad guys that the u.s. cuts deals with? >> they don't want to do business with us. not just with us, with anyone. the south koreans, the japanese, except with china, they don't want to do business with anybody and even with china, there's a certain arm's length. like being this isolated country. that's their whole point. the leadership doesn't want their people exposed to too many

outside influences. they're worried that the united nations might take them to the international criminal court because of human rights abuses. and that may be part of their thinking. they've not been in communication with the u.s. for a while. and this may be an attempt to open the door to a conversation. one thing is clear -- they're not doing this out of the kindness of their heart or out of sympathy for mr. fowle and his condition at all. if they're doing this, in their minds, there's a quid pro quo, they're expecting something in return. something that's already been promised to them or they're just expecting it. >> we'll have to see what happens next with it. any way you look at it, it's a good development. it's good that someone is getting out of there who doesn't belong there by the perspective of the western world, anyway. >> and any part of the world, honestly and it's a very, very strange place. so to expect, to be able to make sort of rational sense out of their actions, sometimes not so easy. >> it's good to have you to try it, bobby ghosh, thank you very

much. here's a look at your headlines, three american teenaged girls apparently bound for syria to join extremists, possibly isis, are back home in denver. investigators say they are combing through the teenagers' online communications to try to piece together why they ran away. the teens said to be two sisters of somali descent and a friend whose family is sudanese were stopped in germany after their parents called the fbi. in the meantime, a newly released video shows this, a 17-year-old australian teenager alongside isis fighters in syria, threatening to behead western leaders. the pentagon is now investigating a video released by isis that appears to show the militants handling weapons intended for syrian kurdish fighters, the pentagon says it air-dropped 27 bundles of weapons to kurdish forces fighting isis and that the vast majority ended up in the right hands. and the "washington post" has reported that the u.s. and iraq

are planning an offensive in the next few months, using iraqi ground forces to regain towns and cities occupied by isis. the st. louis post dispatched published a report on michael brown, showing that brown's gunshot wounds eight wins in a row. watching the game? yes. >> thanks so much, michaela. he was called the heart and soul of the "washington post" that's just one of the many glowing tributes for ben bradley. the former "post" editor who died tuesday at the age of 93. he was at the helm during the

paper's watergate coverage and was immortalized in the film "all the president's men." he leaves behind a legacy of groundbreaking investigative journalism. more on the life and legend of ben bradley. >> his first battle with the nixon administration was over publishing the pentagon papers in 1971. leaked documents that showed how poorly the vietnam war was handled. >> the "post" was looking for a seat at the big table. we weren't at the big table yet and we very much wanted to go there. >> as editor of the "washington post," benjamin bradley fought nixon's objections all the way to the supreme court, winning the right to publish, along with the "new york times." a year later, the stakes were even higher as he headed the newspaper's coverage of the watergate scandal. >> and the stakes were enormous, every day the white house, the leader of the free world, his spokesman would get up and attack the "washington post," attack ben bradley by name. attack woodward and myself. and he backed us up. >> "post" reporters carl

bernstein and bob woodward led the way in unraveling the story, which brought down nixon. >> we knew nixon lied, when he returned to the country early on and said i can't tell but watergate because it involves national security. >> ben bradley, woodward and bernstein had help from a secret source code-named deep throat. bradley was immortalized in the movie "all the president's men." >> nothing is riding on this except the first amendment of the constitution. freedom of the press and maybe the future of the country. >> as a boy, bradley survived polio, went to harvard, then served on a destroyer in world war ii. through a dozen battles. as a young reporter he became friends with john f. kennedy who moved in on the same block when he first got elected to congress. but bradley always maintained a healthy skepticism of washington power players, which only grew stronger over time. >> i think there's been an

enormous increase in -- in not telling the truth, lying. >> a dapper presence in the newsroom. former colleagues described him as demanding but inspiring. >> he received the medal of freedom from president obama at the age of 91. >> he transformed that newspaper into one of the finest in the world. >> brian todd, cnn, washington. >> it takes sust intestinal fortitude to stick to your guns when it involves the president of the united states and the first amendment and everything he just outlined in the movie. >> knowing and not knowing the repercussions. in that decision to go ther

believed. >> legacy with "washington post" legends, bob woodward and carl bernstein, stick around for that company. we also have new developments for you in the battle to prevent an ebola outbreak here in the u.s. not a travel ban, but new restrictions placed on passengers flying into america from three west african nations. and the new ebola czar takes office today. doesn't want to be called a czar, by the way. plus, no fan, but plenty of heat. charlie crist and rick scott tearing into each other in their second florida debate. to be governor. why some observers claim the voters definitely lost.

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we have good news to share this morning, another victory over ebola. nbc freelance cameraman, ashoesha mukpo has been cleared if a nebraska hospital after doctors declared him virus-free. all of this as homeland security tightens travel restrictions on all incoming passengers from west africa. they are now required to land in one of thecrisis.

ed -- >> one of the topics of texas health presbyterian yesterday to talk about the way the hospital handled the case of thomas eric duncan and everything after that. that executive says looking back, that they misdiagnosed thomas eric duncan. and that they essentially became complacent. despite weeks and weeks and months of warnings from about ebola from the cdc. that the hospital let its guard down. this morning, the freelance cameraman who contracted ebola in liberia is now free of the virus. according to health officials. ashoka mukpo tweeted i fought

and won with lots of help, amazing feeling. the 33-year-old is also offering hope for nurses nina pham and amber vinson. look forward to the day you two get news like this, too. he writes. both contracted ebola while caring for the now-deceased liberian man, thomas duncan at the texas presbyterian hospital. during the highest-risk period for treating duncan, the nurses wore protective gowns that

another layer of bureaucracy. so they've almost seen to give in to some political pressure on this they say that ron klain will lead an effective, aggressive, synchronized approach to ebola and stopping it not only here in the u.s., t.

top members of the coordination team, senior white house staff and others and the white house says his job will primarily be behind the scenes. so he may not in fact be the kind of face of the response that some were expecting. and now at the same time today, we see these travel restrictions going into effect. with everybody now coming into this country shuttled through five airports that have had stepped-up screening. the question with all of these changes of course, why now? why in this kind of step-by-step approach? instead of doing all of this from the very beginning. chris. >> and now we're hearing that texas presbyterian saying it won't see ebola patients any more. i thought all hospitals were supposed to be able to at least diagnose? what does that mean? a lot for mr. klain to figure out going forward. michelle kosinski, thank you very much for the support. so no flap over fans at the latest debate. it's very good that jake tapper was cool in his seat trying to

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the jingle, it is cnn money time. alison kosik here with the markets. what do we know? >> last week, the plunge, stocks are on the rebound, futures aren't doing much movement. yesterday stocks had a huge day, the dow climbed 215 points, 1.3%, that means the dow is once again up for the year. so far, a great week so far. in a very rocky month. we're watching shares of yahoo on the move, moving higher, up about 3% before the opening

bell. the web giant's profits soared in the third quarter. mostly thanks to the more than $6 billion raked in from selling part of its stake in the little-known company called alibaba. that company had the biggest ipo in wall street history last month. and poor mcdonald's, revamping its menu. the chain said it will simplify its menu and make it more customizable in an effort to curb sinking process and sluggish sales. the chain has fallen out of favor with customers, looking for healthier meals. >> a good trend. >> but not good for mcdonald's. >> but they all adapt. >> we'll see. let's get over to michaela. >> jeffrey fowle, the american released by north korea is set to arrive in the u.s. any moment. landing at wright-patterson air force base in ohio. we'll bring it to you live. he was held by pyongyang for five months because he left a bible at a club. this morning we've learned that fowle was given special dispensation by leader kim

jong-un and his case has been dismissed. it's unclear what this means for the release of two other americans that are still being held there. matthew miller and kenneth bae, we'll be watching that. suspected serial killer darren vann is due in court in indiana this morning. authorities say vann confessed to murdering a 19-year-old woman at a motel 6 and gave police next leading to the bodies of six other women in gary, indiana. they believe there could be more victims in other states, going back some 20 years. a car recall over concerns about faulty air bags is now

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the border. such a difficult country to deal with and here you have jeffrey fowle. someone personally and his family caught up in the midst of a confusing, difficult and dangerous relationship. >> jim, it's chris, thank you for helping us out on this. i want to go to miguel marquez, for all the political implications that jim is talking about what this could mean, this is about a family. those kids, they couldn't wait to get back to the hangar. they ran right out and met their daddy. as he came down the steps. a moment they had every reason to believe may not have come for years. what's it like to be there? >> unbelievably electric to be here. we expected the family to stay inside the hangar. that's what officials here told us as the plane pulled up. they came out on to the tarmac, as soon as he came down. carrying two bags, carry-on baggage only. his kids came running out toward him. his entire family embraced him. we can see somebody with a family shooting him with a cell

phone in typical modern style. it is an absolute amazing moment. that this guy was able to make it from pyongyang all the way here. to central ohio. in such a short amount of time to be reunited with his family after such fear, after such confusion, and such concern, this is an extraordinarily happy and tearful and i'm sure emotional family right now. chris? >> miguel, it's alisyn here in new york. the family must feel that this is surreal. this must feel like a dream to them. because it all happened so suddenly. >> this is a family that i think was hoping and praying that he would come back. they were falling on hard times, it is an extraordinarily difficult time for them here he was employed by one of the cities near here, as a public official. they had to let him go. in recent months. because they didn't know when he was coming back. they have three children. it was getting to be very, very

difficult for them and they had no certainty that he was coming back. the interview that cnn did back on september 1st, mr. fowle was razor-sharp in his responses and what he said and the responsibility he took. and the apology he made. the family a short time later making a plea for his release. indicating in every way, that it was his fault. that he was a criminal, he signed a statement and they wanted him back. the statement today from kim jong-un himself. >> the phone calls from president obama himself. that plane, his plane to freedom here in wright-patterson air force base, the family now in the hangar right there. still in the hands of the u.s. state department, but soon they will go home. it's about a half-hour drive from here. i'm sure they're going to have one hell of a breakfast. ailsen? >> miguel, stand by.

we want to bring in former ambassador bill richardson with us to give us his thoughts on what's happening. ambassador, are you there? >> what do you think when you watch this scene of reunion? >> well, i'm -- i'm very pleased. i think it's a good sign that the north koreans released this man. unconditionally. they usually demand a price, a special envoy, special concessions, statement, they didn't this time. so i think it's a signal to the u.s. that says all right, let's start talking. possibly with secretary kerry, saying restarting nuclear talks, that's what we wanted. the u.s., we said we've had to denuclearize the korean peninsula. if you want to talk to us, north korea, you've got to start talking about denuclearize iing >> but i think the

administration is correct on separating the humanitarian issue. this is done by normal diplomatic channels, the swooed did it. it's a family issue. but there are two other americans we need to get out there have very soon. >> mr. ambassador, let me ask you something that we just learned about the family. were you surprised to hear that the family has been allowed to fall on hard times. that even though he's a civil servant, they wound up taking him off the payroll while he was being held captive presumably in an illegitimate way by the united states. his family has been left hanging as they wait for this to resolve? well that's unfortunate. if that's the case, i don't know if that's the circumstances. when we have a prisoner overseas, an american serviceman and there are many around the world right now in the same

situation. we should stand behind them. help the families, help them with counseling, with assistance. and again, i think this is a case where the signal has been sent by north korea, you know, maybe the time has come to stop all this rhetoric, all these detonations of nuclear weapons and let's start talking. we know very little about this new leader in north korea. but maybe this wouldn't have happened, this release, without him knowing. so maybe he's sending a signal. and the fact that the north koreans dnd demand the price. a special envoy, president clinton to come get him. they did it through normal channel, the swedish government who represents us there worked hard to make it happen. maybe it's a little thawing in a very cold relationship. so we should be pleased. besides the family issue, three kids, civil servant, he hadn't been charged, that's good, but there's still kenneth bae and

another individual, that have been there for two years. this is a good sign that maybe the next two, those two americans will be released soon. hopefully with this new initiatives by the north koreans to being nice. >> let's hope this is a good sign. and we want to bring in now former press secretary to president obama, jay carney. jay, good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> doing well. so i want to talk to you about this statement that we have here that was released from north korea, trying to explain what we're watching on the screen and why they released enter fowle. they say quote, comrade kim jong-un in deference to agreement between the supreme leaders of the dprk, north korea, and the u.s., granted a special dispensation for the american jeffrey edward fowle. what's the agreement you think that he's talking about between the u.s. and north korea? >> i think that is a figure

leaf. and not, doesn't represent a real fact behind this case. i think that you know, the north korean leader needs to take this action as ambassador richardson was saying in a way to try to thaw relations a little bit. and he needs to pin it on the united states. it's certainly the case throughout the obama administration, as was the case in prior administrations that the united states continues to press for the release of individuals held, americans held by the north koreans and press very hard behind the scenes using traditional methods like the swedish. but there's no, there's no agreement here. what i know is true is that the administration is continuing to press for the release of the other two americans. >> why do you think, jay, that he was released, jeffrey fowle was released rather than kenneth bae and matthew mill centre. >> that's an excellent question. i think that one reason may be that kenneth bae was sentenced

and he's serving hard labor, which is tragic. and mr. fowle wasn't. but you know, it's hard to know. because it's such an inkrutable regime. there's no place on earth more opaque than north korea and pyongyang and the reasoning behind the leadership. we have very little direct information about what happens and why decisions are made. i think coming on the heels of speculation about the north korean leader's health, coming on the heels of questions about his disappearance for some period of time. until recently, until last week, i think that's interesting, too. i think north korea watchers will wonder whether there's an aspect of this that has to do with the leader himself. but we don't know that much about what happens there. >> mr. richardson, i want to bring you back in. you have dealt many times with the opaqueness of north korea. how would you now go about, go about trying to get the other two out? >> i would follow the same

procedures we did with jeffrey fowle. one, that we not dangle a special envoy, that we not say that we're going to bring a diplomatic start to get him out. that we continue through normal channels. i think the north koreans are saying we have a legal process, too. the other two have been sentenced. i don't believe the second one has totally been sentenced. once that is completed, then they can move forward with a potential pardon, as kim jong-un apparently has done. so what i would do is tone down the rhetoric. that we have, i think the white house is correct in basically saying this was a positive gesture. continue through the swedes to work on the two others. cool down the rhetoric. try to do something to get north and south korea to start talking about issues like family reunification. try to avoid pot shots being

shot at each other, literally between north and south i don't know if we can do that ourselves. but continue pressing and separating the issues of policy differences, denuclearization. and humanitarian gestures. kenneth bae, he's been there for two years, he's got a family, his health is deteriorating. the other individual, young man, obviously needs some medical assistance, too. so continue separating politics from humanitarian issues. but use the channels that we've used. ed swedes, normal channels without bringing a megastar to try to get them out. >> former ambassador, bill richardson, thanks so much for your insight and expertise as we watch this beautiful scene on our screen. of jeffrey fowle reuniting with

his family and the group hug. we can only imagine how happy they all are at this hour. let's get over to michaela for more news this morning. >> another big story we're watching, you talk about the family there, other families dealing with their own crisis, 13 american teens, 15-17-year-old girls, were stopped, were prevented from reportedly trying to join isis in syria. this, as our jim shuto spoke with the former director of the national counterterrorism center, who says lone wolf attacks are a serious threat facing the u.s. >> it's been a month since the u.s. targeted the corazon group in syria. warning it was in the advanced stages of plotting an attack on the u.s. >> air campaign, however says the former director of the national counterterrorism center has not degraded that threat. >> is that threat still imminent? >> i think the threat is still in the same place it was before.

and that is, this group was in a position to train, you know without any sort of interference. they were able to recruit operatives, we saw they were looking to test explosives. they were in the advanced stages of plotting. they had the intent and the capability that put them into this nearing an execution face of an attack. >> is there any evidence that the first night of strikes damaged that capability? >> i don't think you know, there's any realistic likelihood that some limited air strikes even just for a period of time will degrade that threat altogether. >> still, most likely threat is here at home. so-called lone wolf attacks by radicalized americans. such as the boston marathon bombers. >> is the risk of a boston-like attack greater today with the

rise of isis? >> i would say the most likely type of attack is one of these home-grown violent extremists or you know, lone offenders in the united states perhaps. and the rise of isis and the number of people going to syria. whether they're fighting with isis or just in the conflict there against assad, the likelihood i think does go up. >> tracking known terrorists at home and abroad, however is proving much more difficult, due to the revelation of edward snowden of once-secret surveillance program. >> wihave we lost information because of that? >> yes, people we were concerned about, we're no longer collecting their communication. we've lost insight into what they were doing. >> does that include the aqap and the core zon group? >> i'm going to tell you people we were concerned about. >> 100 americans have gone to fight in syria or tried to go there. i asked matt olsen how do they

keep track of them? he said he knows where they are to some degree. for some, they might have a name and a location, for others, just an alias or part of a name. a real concern that they might lose track of some of those americans returning here and it's the ambition of isis to try to extend, to bring the war from syria here to the homeland. >> the ambition of isis and the concern, we're want to talk about corazon as well. i want to bring in our counterterrorism analyst phil mudd and cnn political commentator, jay carney. you talk about the lone wolf aspect. i want to talk about how concerned matt olsen is with core zon and in a their concern is that corazon has a mission to target the united states domestically. >> i started by asking what are the most severe, what is the most severe terror threat to the u.s. and he said immediately the corazon group and aqap.

they've attempted to get explosive devices on airplanes, the underwear bomber, that one didn't light. but they know they have that capability and ambition. corazon group is the other. these are hardened al qaeda alums so to speak using syria as a base. when the air strikes started a month ago today, we were told by u.s. officials they tarted the corazon group in syria because there was an imminent plot to attack the u.s. in the advanced stages of planning. matt olsen told me the u.s. air strikes have not diminished that threat at all since then. that's a real concern going forward. that threat just as dangerous today as it was a month ago before the start of of u.s. military action in syria. >> we haven't heard about corazon since the air strikes that first night. why is not sort of seemingly to the american public's knowledge, a case of mission that needs to be addressed by u.s. air

strikes? >> you're right we haven't heard a lot about it. i think that's because we haven't got the profile that isis has or the profile that aqap has. i think what matt olsen said was that he couldn't be confident that the khorasan threat couldn't be degraded entirely. to force a group like that to deal with the immediate problem of air strikes from the united states. these things are long-term propositions and no, no one night or one week of air strikes is going to push back the threat permanently. about i think khorasan is an issue, it remains a problem for the united states, specifically because they have expressed designs on the united states. their focus is not as isis' is right now, on syria and on iraq. it's on the west. >> phil, i wanted -- >> go ahead, jim. >> to be fair to jay, matt

olsen, he's correct to say that matt olsen did not say that air strikes did not destroy the threat completely. but he said specifically did not diminish the threat measurably. that those air strikes if his view, did not make a difference as far as making the threat any better today than it was a month ago. one reason matt olsen said we haven't heard of more air strikes in the months since the strikes started is because they haven't had the intelligence to strike khorasan, they hadn't had a good opportunity to go after them. part of the reason for that is that khorasan has gone to ground, they're harder to find. >> one thing we're all having difficulty pinpointing, phil mudd to talk to you about this, is the notion of the self-radicalized people, the lone wolf with jim schutto just now. we saw this play out sadly and tragically in canada. a man who was being monitored by law enforcement in canada, essentially ran down two canadian soldiers, killing one of them. he was shot and killed.

these people are harder to track. >> the problem you have, i remember sitting around the threat table a decade ago. you have this strategic threat of al qaeda that conducted the 911 attacks. that's a significant threat because of their operational training, their sophistication. they give you a nerve center to target with intelligence resources. you can run human intelligence at them. target their communication, the problem with lone wolves, they don't have the capability of al qaeda. but think of it, what kind of vulnerability are you going to target with a 15, 16, 17-year-old which is what we've seen over the past day in denver. don't give you a a target to prefile. >> and we've seen another situation of a 17-year-old who has made his way to syria and is fighting alongside isis from australia. very much a concern. phil mudd, jay carney and jim schutto, thanks so much. another big story we're

following this morning. ben bradlee, the legendary "washington post" editor has died at the age of 93. bradlee cemented his legacy while overseeing the paper's coverage of some of the most important stories in our nation's history. including of course the watergate scandal which led to the only resignation of an american president. president nixon. and bradlee was one of the few people who actually knew the identity of the watergate source deep throat and supposedly never told a soul. rare discretion in the modern age of media. joining us now are two legends themselves, the journalists who broke the watergate story and many other while working with ben bradlee, cnn's analyst carl bernstein and robert woodward. the it depicts his character, as

investigative reporters, as somebody who needed an editor to have their back. what was it about ben bradlee that you think made him different than so many others. >> his middle name could have also been popeye. because he had this incredible ability to operate from the top and understand all the way down to the bottom. i was a unique editor, a unique person. he viewed the world like the young reporter he started as, he had a great delight in what he did. he understood both newspapering and the people that were covered. this was more than four decades ago. we were very young. he was very experienced. and if you try to get to the core of how he edited it, he raised the standards. he was always asking us, not what the white house spokesman said, but how about people on the scene, like the treasurer

for the nixon campaign. the bookkeeper. people in the fbi who were investigating this. there was a sense of an interrogation, where he -- it was an interrogation. >> and we were interrogated a lot. >> by him and will was no water waterboarding, but it was close. what did people say, what did they mean? did they witness this? are they reliable? do they have an axe to grind? so he, he was our ultimate teacher. >> did you remember, did you recognize at the time or do you see it more clearly today, just how brave it was of him. you two were certainly very brave. young, ambitious, reporters on the trail are often driven by that. but for him to take on an institution like the president circumstance at that time in our history where people just didn't do that, at the time did you

understand just how much faith he was putting in your reporting? >> we understood how much faith. but what we didn't understand was how much he understood what was on the line. how -- middle of watergate and we did it for all the president's men, our book. and he says in there, remarkably, he was afraid that the whole ship could go down. and we never, he was like a great general. the military cliche analogy holds here, he was so calm under fire that we were able to do our jobs. and it was not just support, it was a kind of leading the troops in a way that you knew you could get to the other side of the battlefield, because he was, he was leading you. >> so bob, why did he have the guts to let you guys run with

that story? when there was so much on the line? >> part of it was just instinct. and i think trust. he knew we were working at night. going and seeing the people who knew the details of this. as he said later on, we were the runs assigned to work on the story and we were coming up with stories. an editor of a newspaper or producer here at cnn, is in the production business. let's execute, bring us the stories. we were neither of us was married at the time. and we've often talked about how he gave us running room, but it was within the rules of journalism. he would never let us slide one by. he would say, hey wait a minute, let's work on this story more. >> you don't have it yet. >> ben said at the time, he one

of the checks on the confidence he had in the story or the ambition of the story is where is everybody else? why are we the only ones doing that? over the years, when i would be lucky enough to be around him. he wondered about that today, didn't he, fellows? where are people chasing after liars and cheats, when he believed there's more of them today than back in the day when he was at the helm. >> the first part of your question is really interesting. in the same interview that we did with him, he talks he talks about how we were out there alone. the "washington post" and he uses the expression, joyous day. when the other newspapers and other news organizations finally got on to the watergate story. and reduced the risk to the institution of the "washington post." >> and it was particularly seymour hirsch of the "new york times" who jumped on the story. the most aggressive skilled

reporter in the business. in many ways and hirsch would come up with stories and there was a deep sense of relief and it wasn't just support, but again, he, hirsch would have the detail. >> bob woodward, carl bernstein, it's so great to hear your memories of ben bradlee and how all this came to pass and became part of our great american history. our american history, even if it was an ignominious chapter. thanks so much, guys, always great to see you. wow, i mean it's so lucky, when you have a boss and an editor who has the spine to let you run with your instincts, i've been blessed to have that and it's a great journalistic gift. that though triumvirate of men together to do that.

>> today you have all the pressures on the media and it was a very litigious society. ben bradlee often said in later years -- where is it today? hopefully with his passing, it will be a reminder of what that mission is. we're following breaking news for you -- jeffrey fowle, one of the americans held in north korea, is now back on u.s. soil. this happened moments ago. he gets to hug his family for the first time in five months. emotional reunion, we'll have a live report in moments. we put all the apps you love... inside a car designed to connect you to a world of possibilities. the connected car by volvo innovating for you.

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this is american jeffrey fowle. he is hugging his family for the first time in five months. he's seeing his children and wife for the first time in five months, he's been detained in north korea and his family says they didn't know that he would be released today.

they thought that he might be detained for years. but suddenly, north korea for reasons we're not quite sure of, decided to send him home. and this is the moment, this hour, that he landed, at patterson air force base in dayton, ohio and saw his family. there he is getting off the plane, carrying his own carry-on bags as we've noted. he runs down the stairs, he plops them down and his children run across the tarmac to greet him. >> alex, chris and stephanie. 13, 11 and nine. can you imagine kids that age not knowing when dad is going to be home? they couldn't even wait for him to get into the hangar. that's where he and his wife were supposed to have their reunion. they couldn't wait. here comes his wife. beautiful. >> it was a great moment. we got to watch it live here on cnn moments ago. we had ambassador bill richardson on with us and it's unclear why the north chose today to release him. our own miguel marquez was at

the air force base for this emotional reunion. miguel, tell us what the scene was like before he arrived and as he touched down. >> here's one thing you will not believe, john duvalier the commander of wright-patterson air force base, said the children were brought here today, they didn't know why they were brought here, that their father was coming home. when the plane pulled up and the parents got excited, his mother was here, or the wife and their mother was here and a brother was here. when that plane pulled up, they came out to the tarmac to see what was going on, the stairs came down and quickly within minutes mr. fowle came down those steps and you saw the unbelievable reunion there. the scene was chaotic. the air force, put this together at the request of the state department, very quickly. he got out of pyongyang, he was in guam, moved from there to hawaii and then the 737 or the

c-40 in air force speak came from hawaii all the way here. had to stop once to refuel. but he is home. the family still inside the main hangar here at wright-patterson. they will presumably go home, have a great breakfast and do a heck of a lot of catching up. alisyn? >> it's so crazy, and surreal for them i can imagine. we had just read, they were preparing they said for years, because the north is so opaque as we've heard, they didn't know if he would ever be released. they didn't know when he would be released. they said they were mentally preparing for him to be gone for years and then to suddenly get this phone call that he might be on his way home. we can only imagine how it threw them into tumult. >> he, this is a guy who the last time we spoke to him on september 1st, the cnn, the only network in the world to speak to him on september 1st, just recently, he said look, i am preparing for trial.

i'm afraid that if the trial goes forward, i'll be convicted, i'll be like kenneth bae and the other young man who is there, kenneth bae in a labor camp for two years. his family worried about his health and whether or not he's going 0 get out. the family had literally no reason to think he would ever get out. north korea's state-run media releasing a statement from kim jong-un today saying the criminal has been released because of phone calls from president obama himself so this is something that was very personal between kim jong-un and president obama, clearly making a statement that this was the president's own hand in making this happen. the family i think couldn't care less, they're happy to have their father back. they're in a reunion right now and it's going to be a great day for them. >> that's for sure, one that's months in the making, they had fallen on hard times, he was a civil servant, released from the payroll of his job, because they didn't know when he would be

back. let's bring in will ripley. you spoke to jeffrey fowle. did he have any clue that he would be getting out any time soon, let alone before the others? >> no, he was very nervous, chris, when i spoke with him and repeated how desperate he was to get back to his wife and back to his young children. he missed their birthdays while he was in custody in north korea. he talked about his wife, her part-time job as a hair stylist. how they were having a hard time paying the bills in danger of possibly losing their home. and he knew that he had the support of his church community and his crime that he admitted to was leaving a bible. simply leaving a bible in a club in north korea. and that had the potential to put him in the situation that kenneth bae is in right now, 15 years hard labor. it had the potential to put him in a situation where matthew miller is serving six years in north korea because of his crime for tearing up his tourist visa. fowle thought he could be the next one.

he could spend years or decades in that aunt. and he was so, so desperate to see his family and hold them again and see the moment happening within the last hour. it really is remarkable. when i was with him, i could sense talking to him, i could see in his eyes as he was tearing up, how much he missed his family and now he's back with them. >> i'm sure, thank you very much. just for a moment, the months melded away when he hugged those kids. a lot of hardship to deal with going forward and a reminder for all of you, there are two other men who are not with their families. who the united states believes should not be where they are in north korea and we don't know what their fate will hold. >> i wonder if this gives them hope or -- >> you hope for more, but you just don't know because the situation is in such disarray in terms of the two countries.

we'll stay on that as we get more developments for you we'll bring them to you. a hot night in several mid-term election debates. including north carolina where one candidate get this, the candidate decided no the to show up. what's going on with that. john king will be here to explain all the shenanigans on "inside politics." stamps.com is the best.

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a fiery debate that proves that politics is still a blood sport. charlie crist and rick scott went at it. >> these guys don't like each other and are in a close race. charlie crist was the republican governor and at one point john mccain was thinking about making him the vice presidential pick. now rick scott is the republican incumbent. they're fighting over a planned execution and a political fundraiser by rick scott's attorney general, but it's about more than that. >> did the attorney general ask you to delay the execution so she could go forward with your political fundraiser. >> it was, she asked me to delay it because it was, it didn't work on the dates that she thought it was going to be on. >> did you know it was for a political fundraiser? >> charlie, she apologized. what would you like her to do. >> i didn't ask about her. >> she aa poll jazzed, charlie.

>> it doesn't answer questions. he pleads the fifth. >> they got more heated in exchange, that's about independent voters, you're in a very close election. a lot of independents, especially if you start in tampa, go across the i-4 corridor over to daytona beach. rick scott didn't seem prepared for that question. >> just for that question. he seemed a little bit back on his heels. >> i think it's less -- not prepared as much as i'm not going to answer that kind of question. go away, charlie. that's what they think of each other. but this is an incredibly big state, incredibly important state on its own. who is the governor of florida in 2016, this could help when you get into presidential calculations. two candidates, if you talk to pros in both parties, not running the best campaigns, but we'll see. >> the gamble is i don't have the best ideas, i'm not going to blow you away as a voter. but i may not be the best, but the other guy is a bum. what's the risk in this strategy? >> that you just, that people don't vote, number one. people get so discouraged.

when i was on the road last week in the midwest. colorado, kansas into iowa, what's most distressing is you'll meet evangelicals, who say, why should i vote and you meet latino who is are very proud of their two votes for president obama who say what did we get for it? so you have both on the left and the right, people who think it doesn't matter. of course it matters, had matters who your governor is in a big state like florida. it matters who controls the senate. the president is going to have supreme court picks in the next two years, they might tinker with obama care. they're not going to repeal it. you'll have spending issues, the republicans want to spend more on the pentagon. does it come from head start and food stamps. you have a war going on. the saddest price of the dysfunction of washington the last two years is that people think it doesn't matter. and that's, it's, very, i mean i was going to say it's pathetic. i don't mean the voters are pathetic. it's pathetic that the day care

center of washington have convinced the voters that it doesn't matter. >> they were arguing over who is richer. the american dream of success, they were using against each other to impugn each other's character. that the other one is richer. >> charlie crist tried to use rick scott's wealth. rick scott used to run a medical company. he settled a big case and they tried this in the last campaign. the democrat tried this charlie crist, trying it again, fraud against the government. rick scott says charlie, you're not a poor guy. what about the environment in florida, the economy in, florida, the taxes in florida. anything but their personal things. what about the issues that affect the people. this is not just here. you can go g go debate to debate. there was one in north carolina last night. the democrat didn't show up, kay hagan. why didn't she show up? >> a great question, we're waiting for a good explanation from the hagan campaign, besides she had other things to do. >> she wasn't going to faunds centre. >> not this time.

one of the issues in the campaign is she missed an isis classified hearing because she was a political fundraiser. you see the empty chair. some people see this as a gimmick. the interesting thing about this race, tom tillis, the guy on the left, the republican, there's a libertarian, who could swing the race, if he gets 6%, 8%, kay hagan could win re-election. but republicans say tillis has gone from about four points down to tie it or one or two points ahead. focused on one issue -- ebola. she flipped on the travel ban, saying they don't need it, and now they do. >> kay hagan and tom tillis, you're thinking 2016 and beyond. the demographics of the state are changing. it used to be a red republican state, now it's purple. some democrats think it's moving blue. i'm a demographic freak. it's a great race.

>> so kay hagan did not show up. but other women are showing up on the campaign trail to great effect. hillary clinton, michelle obama, elizabeth warren. hillary clinton, we understand this week alone has helped haul in the estimated $3.5 million in california for various campaigns. it's working with women on the campaign trail. >> she's going to be all over the northeast, the next few days, michelle obama has been out there and elizabeth warren. clinton raised money for a candidate, you're making friends in 2016 and it tells but the democratic strategic, they understand they have the wind in their face, they understand the democratic president is unpopular. he can only go to the bluest of blue states, you'll never see president obama on the ground in any of these tough battleground states. you are seeing his wife, hillary clinton and elizabeth warren. democrats know to win in colorado and iowa, you have to stretch the gender gap as far as they can stretch it. get women to vote, hope men don't vote because they're discouraged. if they have a huge gender gap, democrats have a chance.

and if it sha links, the gender gap come back toward republicans a little bit, that's the big battleground in the last 13 days. >> it's always boggled my mind, with all the things that wives can get men to do, voting all of a sudden, they have absolutely no control. you throw it up to politics. you always hear the wives' la meant. i won't even talk to them about politics, of all the things, voting. >> watch elizabeth warren, just in case hillary clinton is going to run -- >> she's very strong. >> the base loves her. >> turn-out, depressed environment where nobody wants to vote. we'll see who turns them out. >> john king, great to see you. >> want me to take him back to washington? >> please. the leaks keep coming out of ferguson, missouri. reports now emerging about michael brown's wounds and what was in his system when he was shot and killed. we'll discuss the legal and forensic new angles of the case.

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the autopsy shows brown sustained six gunshot wounds. one of those was in the hand, now we are told, at close range. what could that mean? could it lead credence to officer darren wilson's account of a struggle at his patrol car? how it went down and what precipitated the fatal shooting. let's bring in two men who know how to analyze the situation. cnn local analyst, paul callan and larry kovalesky. >> professor badden says it wasn't at close range. now we hear it was at close range. is that something that is easy to mistake? well basically, dr. badden was probably looking for stippling. which occurs in a close-in gunshot. >> what does that mean, stippling? >> it's the burned, gunshot

particles that are emitted from the barrel and hit the target and leave behind a tattooing, a stippling, a burning and an abrasion of the skin. he didn't sew that, so he said it was not a close-in shot. why do we know it was a close-in shot? >> you're saying we know it was? >> we know it was, because there was gunshot residue found in and around the wound, the tip of the thumb and the palm of the right hand. we know it and that tells me that that gun went off, it was about no more i should say than 18 inches away from the hand. and it could have been as close as one inch. >> the information is out there. we could argue all day and i think we would all come out on the same side, that information shouldn't leak out of a grand jury, but it did and people are forming opinions about it. this case matters beyond the process of adjudication. so let's discuss what we now know and what it could mean. couldn't have someone better than you. you know what it's like to prosecute. you know what it's like to

defend criminal cases like this i'll offer them up, you tell me what would be the balance on it? >> okay. >> the first one is, we had been told by the chief early on, this had nothing to do with a robbery, when officer wilson came there. we then heard, i a call did go out over the radio. officer wilson said when he passed by the kids, get out of the street, which may or may not have pissed them off. he said johnson, the person with michael brown matched a description of the person at the robbery and that's what made him turn around. do you buy it? >> i think it changes the landscape considerably if the jury buy it is. originally it looks like a cop may be harassing kids who may not be obeying his demand to get on the sidewalk. if the cop goes past after getting the order to get on the sidewalk and he hears over the radio, a robbery at a convenience store and they fit the description, all of a sudden he's now, backing up and he thinks he's apprehending someone who committed a robbery.

this changes the landscape completely and makes it the possibility of a more violent encounter. >> wilson says when he pulls up, he tries to get out of the car and michael brown forces the door shut and lumps him right in the head immediately and let's stop it right there. that is different than what dorian johnson says which is that he pulls up real close, so close that it startles them both and when michael brown backs away, the officers reaches out and grabs him and they start to scuffle. meaningful difference. >> very meaningful difference. mr. johnson basically said the door ricochetted closed when it hit me. i don't know that car doors ricochet off human bodies closed. i think that will be a point to be made by the officers' lawyers. so the officer is claiming they pushed him back into the cruiser. because i think he'll be claiming at trial, if there is a trial. that they knew he was on to them and that they were robbery suspects. so now they're desperate and

they're trying to get away. next of course, struggle ensues. >> now let's talk about the struggle. you've seen so many of these. the officer says, i've always said the key here is who took the gun out of the holster. we did some research into the holster. very tough to take it out, given the configuration, which is a great thing for officer safety. we know darren wilson says, i took out my weapon. why? well he had just lumped me in the head, he was incredibly strong. i thought i was going to pass out. i was sitting on my nightstick. and i thought pepper spray would contaminate me as well. so wind to the gun, i didn't have a tazer, does that sound like an awful lot of critical thinking to be doing when you just got punched in the face? >> the reality is, is now he's thinking back, trying to explain. when you're confronted with this situation, your adrenaline is flowing. you're pulling your gun, that means you're going to shoot somebody. you don't pull a gun just for

the heck of it. so the having somebody hit you, you pull your gun and then there's a struggle for the gun. the fbi showed that there were two shots fired in the vehicle. one of them hit michael brown on the palm and the thumb and the other one missed. gunshot residue in the vehicle shows that that's the case. the fact that it's a close-in shot, it's a struggle. there's no real question about that. >> and it takes us to the main question -- i think now the new main question will be, paul, i want your take on this. okay, the gun is out, we're struggling for it. that doesn't mean that michael brown is trying to kill him. michael brown could have been trying to save his own life from an officer who said according to his witness, dorian johnson, i'm going to shoot you. how does this play out. the officer winds up having a gun, there's a struggle for the gun. shouldn't michael brown be trying to struggle for the gun if he's told as going to be shot? or does this give the officer the clearance that he needs to justify his actions? >> well you know it depends on

your attitude toward the police. and whether they are treat people brutally and inappropriately as is the claim. and many minority communities in the united states. or if you think a cop is an authority figure. if he tells me to stop, i stop. if he pulls cops don't usually say i'm going to shoot you. >> we're already fighting. >> yes. >> assuming he did say it. >> well, you're in a death struggle now. if he's actually inside the car grappling with the officer, and the officer get s the gun, this is a life and death situation for both men at this point. >> for both men. >> i understand that michael brown would have reacted violently to try to save his own life, but i also understand the officer probably thought if brown gets the gun i'm dead. so there's a life/death struggle that depends there and it depends on your perspective and the attitude of the police and whether this particular police

officer was an honest cop or a brutal, violent cop out to kill kids. >> either way, whatever happens in the car happens, is the officer justified in getting out of the car and continuing to shoot at michael brown as he runs away. >> well, he's not justified at shootinga the a man who has his back to him, but the autopsy doesn't seem to suggest that. urn missouri law, if you have a fleeing felon which brown was because he had robbed a convenience store and he endangers the officer or is a danger to others you can use deadly physical force. i'm thinking of a conversation i this h with a manhattan prosecutor and you know what he said to me? he said in new york we don't let our cops shoot unarmed people and if this case went down in new york the big question would be, why didn't he call for backup? why didn't he sit in the car, call for backup. >> he says he did call for backup. >> that's the question that the jury's going to be looking at

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good morning. welcome back to "new day," it's wednesday, october 22nd, 8:00 in the east. chris cuomo with allsyn camerota. jeffrey fowle, there he is back in the united states at last. an emotional reunion with his

family when he landed in dayton, ohio. as you can see, no shortage of hugs and tears. those kids didn't know when their dad was coming home. we do know u.s. military leaders who helped with the reunion described the scene as so, so emotional. take a listen. >> we had a great reunion for an american citizen coming home. i got teary-eyed. the reaction from the children were priceless. the expectation was that they would get teary-eyed and i did, too. >> they didn't know. they were preparing that it could be years that he was detained and fowle's release by pyongyang was a surprising move after he was detained for leaving a bible in the club. the move got the green light from north korean leader kim jong-un, but it is unclear whether this development could lead to more progress on the release of two americans kenneth bay and matthew miller who are still being detained by the

north. we will hear from another detainee in a moment and first we upon want to go to ripley. he recently had an interview with all three detainees. what's the latest? >> the latest is that the fate of kenneth bay and matthew miller remains uncertain right now because unlike jeffrey fowle whose case was dismissed before he ever went to trial. they were sentenced for their crimes. kenneth bay serving 15 years hard labor. he works six days a week at a labor camp, eight-hour days and all because he was accused of a missionary of a christian plot trying to overthrow the north korean regime and matthew miller convicted of hostile acts against north korea. he tore up his tourist vase and the real motive was to try to expose widespread alleged human rights abuses laid out earlier this year. the fate of those two men still

uncertain this morning and the north korean government not releasing anything about them saying that kim jong-un has arc loud a special exception that was the reason that jeffrey fowle is now back home with his family in ohio this morning. >> imagine the the emotional roller coaster for him, will. he speaks to you and has no idea when he could go home and expects years and now there he is and for those young kids, 13, 11 and 9 years old and his wife. amazing reunion here. so unexpected. let's get some perspective on. two women that know this story better than most of us. terry chung, the sister of kenneth bay and one of the two remaining american prisoners remaining in north korea, and also euna lee, a prisoner that was held for 140 days. she was released in 2009 and the author of a new book "the world is bigger now. an american journalist released

from north korea." what do you see when you look at jeffrey fowle, you remember, how big a moment is this had for him and what will it be like in the days ahead? >> oh, i'm sure he's elated to be back home and be with his family especially with his young children. five months can be a big gap for his young children, and i'm just hoping that he'll have enough time to get rest and he can move on and get back to his normal life. >> terry, when you see this situation, we've talked so many times about this, is mixed emotions for you as you see mr. fowle coming home some. >> yeah. yeah, it is. when i see the footage of their reunion i get teary-eyed, too,

and i'm happy for them, but that's the reunio know that we've been dreaming of and fighting for for the past wo ars, so it's a little bittersweet for us, as well. >> what is the latest information that you have on the fate of your brother some. >> i've heard that there have been ongoing efforts being made behind the scenes by the u.s. state department, but i think there hasn't been very much progress. >> very much progress. so that even though mr. fowle is now home it doesn't mean that your brother is income or any time soon some. >> not that we heard, and i don't know of of anything concrete. it could be that there's something going that they're not ready to share yet, but, yeah, at this point i'm hoping that this is a positive sign that there might be an opening in the future for auctions about kenneth bay's release, as well. >> euna, from being held captive, what understanding did you have of any from the north korean side that they were even

contemplating your release? did they give any type of indication? is there any chance that they would be discussing that with the people they're holding? >> no. there was no discussion at all. what frustrated me at the time was i had no idea what tomorrow was for me, and there were many and above that, being in isolated confinement was very, very difficult. there were many days passed without me speaking a word and i just stared at the walls, and toward the end of my time, my goal became bringing my spirit up, and i am just very concerned about kenneth bay and miller and their condition. we've seen their interview in the footage and it tells everything. they looked very fragile. >> they both say with good reason that they're being fairly

treated and it's as good as they could expect, but what is the reality for them somewhat is the hardest part of the captivity they're in? >> well-being as i said, i believe that they are being treated fairly, but as i said, being isolated from human being any makes it harsh. as i said, there were many days, many days. i was just by piez and didn't speak a word. >> i know it is hard because you can't reach him. what was the last time you had any indication of his well-being some? >> the last news from kenneth was that footage on september 1st of the interview with will

wipperly. >> that's all you've had and he hasn't been allowed any more communication. >> they're doing what they can to help him get out of forring korea, but we learned something about jeffrey fowle. he was taken off the payroll because they didn't know when he would be coming back home and his family had really struggled with hard times as a result of that. is that surprising to you, te i terri, that while the government that they're doing everything abroad that a civil servant won't keep their job be some. >> i don't know about that, but it is a daily struggle for families whose loved ones are dethained arc broad because they are not only cut off from the rest of the world, but cut off from economic support and the ability to provide for their families, for sure. >> has the government offered any help to your family in that regard? >> no. not outside of the ongoing weekly conversations and efforts

they're making for advocacy. upon. >> so what is the appeal that you want to make today as there is this glimmer of hope that north korea is open to releasing people as happened with the journalist ling and euna lee. what's your message? >> please take the opportunity, take the opening and let's not miss another opportunity to get kenneth bae home, he's back in the labor camp and it is time to bring him home. please take the chance and make it a priority on bring him home, please. >> euna, what do you say? i look forward to seeing it as it it plays out here, but a lot of people who get stuck in north korea, you should never go there. it's such a dangerous place. you should know that these are the risks, what do you want people to know about the reality of being caught captive in a

country like that and what the hopes are for being released? >> i will say that no one puts -- tries to put themselves in danger. when i worked, we don't intend to be in danger, but you never know. you never know where you are at when you are are in a foreign country, you never know what you're going to face especially countries like north korea. >> euna lee, thank you very much for sharing your experience and your book again "the world issing abouty bigger now" and terri, we will will stay on the path of the journey that your pham she on and you will let us know anything forward. >> all right, chris. thank you so much for that. ten minutes past the hour and here's a look at your headlines. >> the pentagon is investigating a video that appears to be by isis that shows them handling weapons that were intended for kurdish fighters.

it dropped 27 bundles for kurdish forces that isis was fighting and the vast majority ended up the in the right hands. "the washington post" meanwhile is reporting that the u.s. and iraq are planning an offensive using iraqi ground forces to reclaim towns and cities occupied by isis. the alleged white house fence jumper omar gonzalez has had his arraignment delayed. they want the homeless iraqi war veteran to undergo an evaluation for 30 days before he is found. he's fit to stand trial. gonzalez raced into the white house lawn and into the mansion. he was carrying a knife. gonzalez served his country well and still deserves our respect. michael sam cut again. the nfl's first openly gay player has been released by the the dallas cowboys practice squad. he didn't make it on to the field for a regular season game. sam thanked the cowboys for the

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another victory over ebola. nbc freelance photographer ashoka mukpo has been declared ebola-free and will be checking out of a nebraska hospital today, this as all air passengers traveling from west africa on the united states will now be required to land at only one of five u.s. airports set up for enhanced ebola screenings. these new restrictions are coming on the same day that ron klain, the man on the screen, begins his new job as ebola response coordinator. let's bring in correspondent michelle kosinski. this is a big job with a lot of

eyes on it. >> plenty of pressure. we haven't quite been able on confirm a surgeon general, but we do now have an, bowla czar. the white house resisted creating this position saying it would only add another layer of bureaucracy and that that wasn't necessary. now possibly bending to all of that political pressure, they say ron klain will lead an effective, aggressive, synchronized response to ebola across all of the levels of government involved in not only preventing it here in this country and trying to stop it at its source in africa. so today we will see klain meet with the president and other top members of the team, some white house staff and the white house says that most of his job will be behind the scenes. so we might not see the kind of face of the response that some expected. upon there's also an expectation out there that if thick things wrong he's the one that will have to take the heat for it. the questions surrounding all of these changes is why now?

why do this step by step and why wasn't this done, of course, from the very beginning, chris in. >> strong questions, michelle kosinski. let's get some answers, right now, alisyn. >> joining us is dr. brett jara on infectious disease preparedness and response. thank you for being here this morning. >> good morning. >> can you give us a status report on the 70-plus health care workers who are currently being monitored in texas? are any of them exhibiting any symptoms? >> well, fortunately, this morning again, we have no additional people who are exhibiting symptoms or any signs of ebola. they remain on monitoring and on watch and as the days any by, fewer and fewer people will be on that watch and we expect to be completely over that by november 6th. again, we're not out of the woods yet. there's still an opportunity for patients to develop symptom, but so far so good right now. >> yes, we do see that date as the light at the end of the

tunnel. dr. giroir, the top doctor at texas presbyterian sat down with ed lavandera and talked about what he believes is the biggest mistake that texas presbyterian hospital med. let's listen to that. >> where we fell short was in really going through simulation and training and drilling around what might happen if someone with appropriate symptomotology raised a suspicion of ebola. >> simulation, training, drilling. are all of those now happening at texas hospitals? >> well, yes. they're happening throughout texas as they're happening throughout the country because as you know the first patient changes everything, but i think we need to look back also and make sure that we're providing the hospitals the necessary resources to do that. hospital preparedness funds as i testified to congress have been drastically cut.

these are vitally important to handle an outbreak like ebola like we just had. >> do you feel as if federal officials have adequately prepared you? >> um, i think preparedness comes at the all levels. we certainly rely on federal officials like cdc in a strong advisory role. they are the international experts. they have a stored history. so they have to advise us and provide the right recommendation, but preparedness is on the local level at the hospital, within the county and within the say the and the command and control is like the incident that we just had. >> do you feel as though you have enough money now that funds have been cut some. >> upon hospital s have, hospitl regions have been very outspoken over the last couple of years about wanting more preparedness funds to prepare for assets like

this forrence vents like this. so i have on relook at that. when i testified to congress a couple of weeks ago that was a major point that hospital preparedness needs to be improved and it's not all about making a new vaccine or a new drug against ebola and some of it it is preparedness on the ground and that would yield tremendous benefits to the system. >> ron klain, the new ebola czar starts today. what's the first thing you want to see him do? >> i want him to assert authority and take charge. it's the critical for someone to weak up every morning and go to bed every night preferably with four or five hours of sleep thinking about ebola and trying to integrate the disparate agencies, local and state agencies attacking this problem. i want him to assert authority and assert control and be the person in charge. that's what we theed. we talked about having a special assistant to the president for a long time who would have this

role right now for ebola. i think that should be appointed and we shouldn't have a disease czar. we should have one person at the white house level that's always in control of these circumstances. >> it's a tall order. we will see if. he's up to the task beginning today. thanks so much for making time for us this morning. >> you're quite welcome. let's go over to chris. another situation to tell you about. three denver teens caught accused of trying to join isis in syria. what does it mean to the vulnerability of homegrown terrorist. monica lewinsky back in the news opening up about falling in love with her boss. reaction pouring in, some of it it, surprise, brutal. why is she speaking out now? she's told her story before. how do you move on in this type of world of political intrigue. let's get some opinions here. gloria allred, the attorney will weigh in. [ female announcer ] hands were made for talking.

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good to have you back with us on "new day." a global reach of extremism. three american girls caught,

intercepted in germany reportedly bound for syria wanting to join isis. they're back home now in the denver area. in canada, a terror suspect was killed after running down two soldiers, running him down with his car and australian teen along isis fighters in syria. pamela brown has more on terror concerns around the globe. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: three high school girls from denver are the late of the american teenagers drawn in by the radical world of islamic extremism. only 15 and 16 years old, two of them sisters of somali descents, aspiring to join the fight in syria. according to law enforcement sources, teens boarded a flight in denver over the weekend and made it to frankfurt, germany, where police arrested them before they could continue on to turkey and then syria. cnn has learned they self-radicalized online.

>> they're oftentimes searching for an identity because the jihad is are pushing is a specific narrative. your people is being oppressed in this place called syria, your government is doing nothing. we're the the only ones that will help you out, why don't you join the fight. >> the only reason the teens were caught, one of their parents called police and the fbi quickly flagged their passports. across the border in canada, new concerns own the after a 25-year-old man ran over two soldiers with his car, killing one and injuring another. police shot and killed him. canadian authorities say the man may have been radicalized and had been on their radar. >> this is a terrible act of violence against our country, against our military and against our value. >> and this 17-year-old australian teenager raising alarm bells after he recently showed up in video alongside isis fighters in syria, threatening to behead western leaders including president obama. pamela brown, cnn, washington. ?

let's bring in former jihadist, mubik sheikh for canada's intelligence service and joins me from toronto. a pleasure to talk to you and it's interesting to me to talk to you because not only were you under cover, but you were actually going along a path as a young muslim youth in canada that was leading to extremism, so you can really relate to the mindset of these young people. >> yes, i can. i did come right to the edge and thankfully i didn't go over it, so -- >> why? why didn't you? what happened some. >> for different people it's an individualist -- they're very individualized pathway and i had support mechanisms around me, parents, friends, religious elders who encouraged me it to study the faith before, you know, going off to some fight that i really didn't know about. >> so let's talk about these young people and it seems they're getting younger and

younger. we hear that these girls from colorado were 15, 16, 17 years old, and i think that's really shocking to people. talk about what it is to be tapped into by extremists that can entice them. help us understand that. >> it really is identity is the core theme, i think, that we see more often than other themes. there's also adventure involved and let's face it with young men and women there's also sex involved and you have teenage girls who want that marry these warrior bad boys and these bad boys themselves are trying to liver up to a caricature that they've created for themselves. we're the heroes and we're the vanguards of the faith. they give themselves the names of the disciples of the prophet, peace be upon him, and they try to live that character role and when you're sittinga the home and watching these videos over and over and over, when we talk

about self-radicalization, this is what's happening. you reinforce in yourself this idea that you can participate in something far greater than your mundane existence at home. >> all of us can relate to that rebellion seeking of identity when we were teens and we all did it, we ran away from home or pierced an ear. could there be some sort of disconnect. oftentimes, within a congregation, there is a disconnect between the older elders and the youth looking for their identity. are they -- is that something else that could be at play here? >> certainly, when you're dealing with first, success, even third generation individuals from various ethnic backgrounds, there are still problems of a culturation and an integration. who am i supposed to be? to be an american, to be a

canadian and to be a brit, can that take away from my islam and muslimness. this is what the mentality seeks to encourage and there's only one way and it's this way and it has to be in separation from the west. >> we know that the message that isis is pushing is reaching the targets. we saw the 17-year-old in australia. there's video of him allegedly alongside isis fighters. we see this situation in canada of two canadian soldiers getting mowed down and one of them killed by someone who had ideology that he'd been self-radicalized and put into action. it is a fine line. it really is a fine line when someone is radicalized and then puts it into action. maybe you can help us understand how fine that line is because, my friend, you dodged it. >> indeed. it is a very fine line, the problem is that most individuals who are radicalized will never act out violently and the small few that do, it's very difficult

to understand how it is that say, two, three, four, five people who come from the same backgrounds, why is it that four will not act and one will act? a lot of times you will see that there are social issues that they're facing in their life. for example in the case of the terrorist attack on canadian forces soldier and of course, the deceased officer vinson, his business was will failing, things weren't working out. he'd separated from his wife or whatever it was. >> there were other troubles. >> there were other troubles that exacerbate. >> that's the the thing, a lot of people have the same problems, but they don't go and kill people. >> what do we do? there are so many of us, communities, neighborhoods, mosques are trying to figure out desperately, what do we do to try to reach those kids who are so vulnerable. >> it it will take a holistic effort and it can't be done by coercive forces and it has to be done by grass roots forces.

it is good that the parents contacted the police and it's better that your kid get arrested or at least talked to than be used as a sex slave which is what happens with a lot of these girls. they need to be aware or be killed. >> they need to be made aware of other girls that have gone and what their situation is now. a lot of them are are living in a fantasy world and just don't understand what awaits them on the other side. >> mubin sheikh i am glad and thankful to whoever that was able to get to you and you are here to fight a different battle that is important and all of us need on work together on do. joining us from toronto, canada. thank you so very much. >> thank you. always pass nafascinating t from him, michaela. >> there's reaction pouring in after monica lewinsky has opened up about her affair with the president and what it cost her in her life. so why is she speaking out now? we'll examine that. hello... i'm an idaho potato farmer

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here we any with the five things you need on know with the new day. american jeffrey fowle is back in america after his release from north korea, after five months of detension and a beautiful and emotional reunion with his family after landing at an air force base in ohio. >> all passengers from west africa will be forced to land at one of five airports, as ron

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diagnosed with a brain tumor. on a friday i was at work. on saturday i was out riding my bike. on monday i went in for surgery. on wednesday, i was blind. >> reporter: in fact, before doctors could tell him he was officially blind, a social worker had already stopped by. >> she noticed i was an arc it ekt and we can talk about career alternatives and i was shocked and i immediately started thinking about the work that i do, and how much of it was sort of immediately possible. jo a can-do attitude coupled with new tools including a special embrossing printer and wax sticks has helped downey become one of the world's few blind architects with a special sense for designing for the disabled. >> if i'm doing a project for people with disabilities it's about ability. it's about keeping everybody moving. it's an enabling as many people

to fifrngz to their fullest capacity possible. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. >> i love the human factors. >> i do, too. it really makes you think about who's in the world around you. >> we love him. >> sanjay gupta? >> yes. >> i love all things sanjay gupta. he wouldn't be getting the criticism about monica lewinsky. she did the big interview with barbara walters. it's not like we don't know her story, but now she's trying to reinvent herself and she's talking about what it did to her, what this affair and all of the media attention and the aftermath did to her. so is this the the right time? is she doing it the right way? how do people feel about this? we'll tell you about it it and have experts weighing in straight ahead.

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monica lewinsky is back if the spotlighting an audience in philadelphia about her affair with president bill clinton. she also spoke about the humiliation that she suffered as a result. she says she wants to raise awareness about cyber bullying, but since joining twitter on monday she has been subjected to a slew of nasty and obscene comments. >> i'm shocked! let's bring in cnn political comment air and republican strategist anna mav ar on and

victims rights attorney gloria allred. raise your hand if you're surprised that monica lewinsky is getting hate thrown her way for coming out and telling, you're sick and tired of monica lewinsky when she's being honest and owning her reality. >> i'm not tired about monica lewinsky. i'm sick and tired about monica lewinsky. it feels like we're going back in time. i almost feel like i have to put my time travel suit and it it becomes more relevant because hillary clinton may be running and it brings back that entire chapter of the clinton white house and those sordid years. for a lot of people like bill clinton and hillary clinton have moved on and a lot of us wish that monica would move on. >> at the same time she's got all her prerogative to tell her

story and say what she wants so if that's what she's chosen to do, it's her right to do so. >> and that's why she says, gloria, that she's doing it. she says that this is her first public speech ever, i guess barbara walters doesn't count, her first speech in front of a big audience when she was at the forbes conference in philadelphia. doesn't have everyone have the right to own their own story and to tell their own story. let me play for you what she says about her own story. >> the problem is that i believe in the power of story, in the power of stories to inspire, comfort, educate and change things for the better. i believe my story can help. >> gloria, won't her story help other people who have felt public humiliation or shame? >> well, it definitely is a legitimate issue to talk about cyber bullying and she received a lot of criticism, but frankly,

when ana who has a lot of experience with republicans and often sides with them says that she's tired of her it reminds me of the same me thinks the lady protest too much because a lot of republicans are quite aware that hill willry may very well wage a battle for the nomination in the upcoming presidential primary and they would like to bring back the whole affair with monica and president clinton and that brings hillary right back into it, but they may regret what they wish for, because a lot more people may feel sympathy for hillary. the wife who had to put up with this affair and also was humiliated by it and so it may end up helping hillary although a lot of people probably do wish that they didn't have to even think about monica at this point. >> gloria, let me tell you something, i don't any from

republican auctioning points. i say that anybody who watches me knows i say what i feel. you're making some suggestions here, you're suggesting that this is a republican conspiracy theory. we've heard the vast right-wing conspiracy thing before. that's ridiculous, what evidence do you have for that? that's just crazy. i don't think anybody wants to bring this back and i don't think, frankly, monica lewinsky would lend herself to that. she's been quiet all this time and i think she realized she couldn't move past it and she's decided to embrace it. i don't know. you don't know what's in her head. i don't know what's in her head, but to say without evidence to suggest that this is a republican conspiracy is frankly crazy. >> gloria, is that what you're saying? >> i haven't used the word conspiracy. >> no, you're more subtle than that. >> give me the courtesy of letting me respond. >> what bothers me most about this is the fact that it is a very big distraction from the

important issues, from the economy, from the issue of ebola and i wasn't thrilled that she used patient zero in her remarks, in her speech which reminds everybody about ebola and when we should be auctioning about ebola and we shouldn't be talking about monica lewinsky. >> why does one have to be exclusionary of the other. >> and war and all of these other significant issues? who will be appointed to the supreme court? >> there are plenty of opportunities for issues to be discussed and as you know, nobody avoids them more than the politicians, gloria, so it's not about monica lewinsky altering what the debate should be. it's just about her speaking her own truth. i'll give you a little bit of proof, i don't believe it's a right-wing conspiracy and those were words that were put in hillary's mouth, but rand paul bought up bill's past as a philanderer. i don't think gloria was referencing that, but there is going to be some political fodder to this.

my peeling is why does monica need it to keep taking the heat for what happened all these years later? . it happened today you wouldn't be blaming the woman, i promise you that. >> no, i cannot. first of all, we shouldn't be blaming anybody. to me, that blame game is well over. let me remind you that rand paul who, as you know, chris, i'm not the biggest advocate of, and rand paul's wife was responding to a specific question about the monica-bill issue that was posed to her by a "vogue" magazine interviewer and then rand paul backed up his wife. i'm not sure if you get asked if you're going to back up your wife and if you're going to any back home to christina i suggest you think about it strongly. >> monica was a victim. >> monica was a victim. she wasn't sexually harassed because what happened was welcome and therefore it wasn't sexual harassment. >> so then why is she a victim

if she wanted this and she pursued him. >> well, because, even hoe she disclosed it quite a bit to her friend who then disclosed it to the world and she took a lot of heat over it. having said that it was 16 years ago, and she does want to control her own narrative now, as shes. she wants to have a better ending to it. her better ending is to identify with the cause cyber bullying, but the real question is doing it now at a time that is so political, is this really going to help her? is this really going to hurt her? i mean, it will help her to get speaking engagements and put it out front. maybe this is what she wants. i don't know what her motives are and i don't know what her agenda is and she better be ready for a lot of flack and a lot of heat and cyber bullying and that's what she's getting and that's what she will continue to get. >> maybe twitter wasn't the best choice. >> i was worried for her. it is one of the meanest places.

i'd rather jump into a cage full of pit bulls. >> me, too. she did tweet later, the the day after she joined, she tweeted #gratitude. she also was getting positive feedback for her speech. so that's a good sign. >> i heard from someone in the room that she killed it, that people were crying and they felt this had meant something to hem and she has to take something away from that, and the big decision is, you weigh in on this. when does she have to say i don't talk about that anymore, i am a cyber bullying advocate. i'm not talking about that anymore and we're done with that and doesn't she have to do that to truly move on? >> frankly, chris, she has to decide whether she truly wants to move on and it's going to be her decision and nobody else's. nobody else can con roll it. i also think that if part of this is her having some effect, she's going to be able to determine. this is a supply, a demand economy.

on-demand economy. if she doesn't get reception for that, if she doesn't get ears that want on listen, then, you know, at that point she knows that those 15 minutes are over, but i think, you know, she's going to play this had out and frankly everybody else is making money on speeches and going off and making money as an industry. >> she talked about how she hasn't been able to be employed during these years because she has been so sort of tarnished by this. gloria, very quickly. you know how to turn around people's images after public humiliation. what should monica lewinsky need on do now? >> i would have to sit down and find out what her motives are and what her agenda is and what her goals are? the point is what is she trying to accomplish and is what she's doing going to help her to accomplish her goal? if it's to get back in the public arena, clearly she can do that, she has done be that, she will continue to do that, will

she profit from that so? can she make a living from that? is it going to be costly to her is she willing to bear the cost and suffering to any along with the public attacks. >> gloria allred and ana navarro. >> ana put me in trouble with my wife suggesting that i would or wouldn't take her back in public. i'll take heat for that. you better expail that so i can can forward it to christina. >> i'll talk about a suspected serial killer expected in court. so far this man on the screen has been connected to seven victims in indiana. the question is, are there more? say with us for that. ♪

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