tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 22, 2014 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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will give us information if there is a second shooter, and if this was expiinspired by isi. and we'll learn more from the prime minister. anderson cooper begins his program right now. good evening, from ottawa, canada, a city that is stunned at this hour, the violence they have witnessed over the last several hours. the situation right here now is very tense still, much of the area we're in, very near parliament hill is still in lockdown. the national war memorial is just a few blocks over that hill, a couple of blocks away from here. that is where a soldier was shot and killed earlier today. a gunman then moving towards parliament hill where a security officer was shot, the gunman himself shot and killed inside that building. there is a lot to get to ahead. we are anticipating a press conference from canada's prime minister, steven harper. of course we'll bring that to you live. we're also learning more about
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this gunman, a canadian-born convert to islam, and before that, his decade-long conversion. take a look. the scene this morning inside canada's main parliament building. there is, it goes almost without saying an enormous amount of concern right here, both here and in the united states about terrorism, whether it is lone wolf attacks or others, security breaches. that is where we begin in washington where just moments ago another person has jumped the white house fence. jim acosta is standing by, what
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do we know, jim? >> reporter: anderson, from talking to officials i can tell you about 7:30 this evening, there was another incident, another unidentified man jumped the white house lawn, and was seen running along pennsylvania avenue in front of the white house and tried to make his way towards the white house. but at that point the secret service released its k-9 dogs on that -- individual, he was taken down by two dogs, almost immediately i'm told after scaling the fence. and i'm told from the secret service official that because of the wounds by this individual he will have to go to the hospital. because the dogs moved so quickly and took him down. >> jim, has there been heightened security at the white house in the wake of the attacks here in canada? >> reporter: absolutely. well, in the wake of what has happened in canada, that is something we have not seen
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throughout the day. but i can tell you there is heightened security right now because of the fence jumping. pennsylvania avenue, by the white house, that has been conclusively shut down. the white house, press, anybody who works at the white house. you cannot get inside or outside the white house right now because of the security situation. so all of that has been ramped up, and they're going through their normal protocols right now. some of those changed in light of the fence jumping incident. and back in september, some of that changed. so that -- all of those procedures right now are taking place as the secret service officials deal with the situation right now. but i can tell you that this is something that the secret service officers were ready for. you know, they were anticipating that somebody else might try to pass the security here. because of what has been in place in the last few weeks. i'm not sure if you're aware of this, anderson, but they have actually put up an additional
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temporary fence outside the white house, along pennsylvania avenue that runs along the fence. this person would have had to jump over the fence, basically they would have hooked up and scaled the existing fence to get on the ground of the white house. and so this person was able to penetrate all of that for a few seconds before these dogs took him down. now, in terms of what happened with canada earlier today, we did not see a measurable difference in terms of security going on at the white house today because of what happened in canada. but you know, we were told by the secret service officials that they are moderating that in canada and keeping an eye on things just in case. >> jim, i appreciate the update. obviously, there is a lot of attention on both sides of the border, sadly what happened here in ottawa is far, far worse, blood has been shed, a soldier was killed just blocks away from here. you can still hear sirens going on throughout much of the entire
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area, much of it as i said still on lockdown. the parliamentary buildings, that is all on lockdown. the search for possible additional suspects is still under way. at this hour they are still not clear whether this was a lone gunman, a lone wolf, if you will, whether this man had a connection to some jihadist groups or whether he had one or two colleagues he was working with. we do not know if there was more than one shooter at this time. we are waiting for more from the press conference. this campus is under mourning after the loss of the soldier. the gunman struck the soul of canada's remembering the memorial and at the heart of its democracy, the parliament. the question now, did the shooter have wider connections to global extremists? >> we don't yet have all the information about whether this was part of a broader network or
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plan or whether this was an individual or series of individuals who decided to take these actions. but, it emphasizes the degree to which we have to remain vigilant. >> that was president obama who spoke earlier to canada's prime minister, steven harper. tonight, what we're learning about the alleged killer and the attack. we're live at this hour and we'll be back at 11:00 for all the latest updates. it comes barely -- the attacks come barely two days after the apparent lone wolf style, this comes on the heel of another convert to islam. that person also shot and killed authority. this comes after the isis attacks, and we're going to dig deeper into all of this tonight. but i do want to get you up to
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date on what happened here in the last several hours. randi kaye has more. >> reporter: 9:52 a.m. a blaze of gunfire at the canadian war memorial in ottawa. one of two soldiers standing guard at the memorial is gunned down. >> i was locking my bike up. i heard four shots. from that direction -- i turned around and ran. and i saw one of those soldiers laying on the ground. >> eyewitness peter henderson said the shots sounded like they came from a high-powered rifle. other witnesses describe the shooter as a man with dark hair and a scarf on his head, carrying a huge rifle. >> the man came around the corner of the prime minister's office, put the gun on his shoulder and fired four shots into the back of this soldier. it was clearly a target. >> henderson says the soldier appears to have fallen backwards. strangers and emergency personnel tries to save him as
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the gunman runs away. but this is just the beginning, moments later, a quarter of an hour later on parliament hill this terrifying sound echos through the chambers. it is now about 10 a.m. witnesses report that the gunfire happened in an area meant for officials. he exchanges gunfire with security officers. >> i heard a rapid fire of what appeared to be about 20 shots or more. very loud, it appeared to be fairly close. >> canada's prime minister is quickly escorted along with some members of parliament to a safe location. but dozens remain inside on lockdown. they tweet to let others know they're safe. mp michelle rempel tweets, mom, i'm okay. i'm in hiding.
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and this tweet from senator jim munson reads in part, everybody safe, but shaken, mps say they could smell gunpowder. by 10 a.m., a journalist says he saw a body slumped over. it will be hours, though, before we get official word that the gunman is dead. killed by sergeant-at-arms kevin vickers. four others reportedly injured in the attack including a security guard at parliament are taken to ottawa hospital. meanwhile, ottawa police still don't know how many suspects they are looking for. at 11:22 a.m., police tell cnn there may have been two or three shooters at the war memorial. >> they do believe there is another gunman at large at this moment. he may be on the run. >> at 11:40 a.m., there is word of yet another shooting from police. this one a seven-minute walk from parliament, near ottawa's center mall.
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later, that report is discounted. just before noon, the u.s. embassy in ottawa is locked down, and president obama is briefed on the shooting. then, just after 1:00 p.m., this grim news. >> sad news, the canadian soldier who was shot at the war memorial in ottawa has died. >> the soldier is identified as corporal nathan cerillo, a reservist from hamilton, ontario. later this afternoon, more bad news, ottawa's spokesperson confirms to cnn they are still looking for additional suspects. the last thing those in ottawa needed to hear after such a terrifying day. randi kaye, cnn, new york. terrifying day indeed and even a terrifying night for the people still in lockdown. authorities going, some buildings, room to room, floor by floor, searching to see if there are any gunmen involved.
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we are learning more about the gunmen. susan candiotti has more. what do we know about the gunman? >> well as you heard earlier. michael zehaf-bibeau is his name. he was born in canada, 32, convert to islam. prior to this he had a lot of trouble with drugs in his past and reportedly was even arrested several times. >> he has an arrest record. >> exactly. >> and now critical information is coming to light as authorities are trying to learn if he was acting on his own. that was this, his passport was seized. can't tell you exactly when. but according to the u.s. law enforcement official they found out it was taken, seized by canadian authorities as he was getting ready to travel overseas telling them that he had the intention of fighting overseas. >> so would they take his passport because they felt he was a risk to go and fight overseas? >> exactly, that is why he was designated as a high-risk traveller.
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>> it is also important to point out that the same situation previously, the man who killed a soldier and wounded another he also had his passport confiscated because he attempted to go overseas. >> exactly, did they have a connection to each other? did they know each other at all? what kind of footprint did they have? was he self-radicalized? >> not to mention, as we repeated several times they are still looking to see if there was another shooter there or other cohorts involved in the attacks today. >> they may not have completely ruled that out, but as my official stressed again and again, we've seen this time and again with the naval yard shootings. a lot of times witnesses think they see someone and think it might be a different person, turns out more often than not in the majority of the times, just one person. >> all right, susan candiotti,
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the images of the world, all day came from the reporter of canada news. he has been inside parliament all day under lockdown, all evening, he joins us now by phone. josh, you're still in lockdown, i know you have been inside parliament for much of the day ever since the shooting. have you been given any specifics about why you're still being kept? >> no, it raises a lot of questions. at first they were saying essentially that it was not safe, that if we were to be going outside then we would be in more danger than inside, we were not that safe inside to begin with. we were near windows, on the ground in an open area. so it is very much up in the air at this point. of course, i have been here since 10:00 a.m. eastern time, and it is starting to drag on. we hope they let people out soon. just a harrowing day. and certainly all signs are pointing to the very fluid
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situation, given that we're all still being held here. >> have authorities been giving you any information throughout the day? i mean, it is still not clear whether or not this was just one gunman or whether they believe there were others? >> yeah, we have been in a bit of an echo chamber here, we have a tv in the corner of this room and we're glued to it. we've gotten absolutely no information from the officials here in the room. early on, there was information, talk of how many people were injured. we understand in parliament there was one guard shot in the leg. and of course the shooter appears to be down in the video that i shot there. but you know, very little information since then. so we have been relying on twitter and tv and whatever to try to keep ourselves informed. but you know, we have been essentially sort of in lockdown, prevented from going anywhere since 10:00 a.m. certainly i'm starting to wonder why that is. is the building we're in is not
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safe? the area outside the building is not safe? we don't know. >> we have been showing the viewers the video you recorded inside the parliament building when the shooting actually was occurring. we're showing it right now. explain to people what you saw, what you heard, where you were when you figurrst realized was there was attack under way. >> yes, i was around the corner in the hallway, and we were just talking to the justice of canada, and he was saying they wanted to change the tactics. that was the story, i was sitting in an alcove with my headphones on listening to the interview. so i heard the first bang, frankly i just thought it was a book case falling. and then, more, certainly it was evident what was going on. that is when we came around the corner and i saw you know, guards standing with their guns
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drawn in the rotunda. this is sort of the grand entryway of canada's parliament building. there is smoke in the air and you can smell gun powder, they were looking down the hallway. around the corner from me, called the hall of honor. this is where earlier this year we had a tribute to our soldiers who died in afghanistan, right now it is just sort of a back bone of the parliament building, right down the middle of it. so at the end of that is the library. the parliament towards that. that is where the video you see ticks up. it culminated with the gunfire there, just an unbelievable amount of shots because fired towards the library. the parliament, it look s like someone was there. it looked like a body slumped over. to me, we presume that that was the gunman that was shot. at the time we knew none of that. and then at that point they started to clear the area. that is when we got herded out. the whole thing happened maybe three minutes, a very, very
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quick series of events. it happened just shortly after the attack at the war memorial which is just a short distance from here. >> well, josh, we'll continue to check in with you. i appreciate your reporting. thank you as always, set your dvr as a quick reminder, you can watch "ac360." there is a lot more information we saw at this hour, in a moment. someone who saw what happened at the war memorial. also canada's prime minister and also the mayor of this city. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] some come here to build something smarter. ♪ some come here to build something stronger. others come to build something faster... something safer... something greener. something the whole world can share. people come to boeing to do many different things.
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well, i was walking along the front of the war memorial. i was just passing just a little over here and all of a sudden heard a shot and turned around. and there was a guy with a rifle just around on the back corner. and just -- pow, pow! >> and that is where this began, just before 10:00 a.m., more than ten hours ago just a few blocks from here in that direction at the national war memorial where a soldier was killed. and that is when the mayhem began. and moments ago, canada's prime minister spoke to the nation,
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here is what he said. >> this week's events are a grim reminder that canada is not immune to the types of terrorist attacks we've seen elsewhere around the world. we are also reminded that attacks on our security personnel and on our institutions of governments are by their very nature attacks on our country. on our values, on our society, on us canadians as a free and democratic people who embrace human dignity for all. but let there be no misunderstanding. we will not be intimidated. >> that was the canadian prime minister just moments ago. scott walsh was at the war memorial when the shooting began. he joins us now by phone. scott, what was the first indication you had gotten that something had gone terribly wrong? >> well, originally, i heard a single gunshot. but at that time i just figured it was the construction on the west walk.
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but it was when i saw a bunch of people running and screaming actually was clued in that there was something wrong. i saw the gunman, he turned, and there was a woman coming by with her stroller, and he stopped about five feet from her and kind of looked in her direction. i was about ten feet from him behind my work truck just along the fence along wellington. and i looked over in his direction and we were trying to get to this woman because we were worried about the safety of her and her child. and at that point he swung his rifle in our direction and he hit the ground then. >> so he actually pointed the rifle at you? >> yeah, in our direction, in our general direction. he didn't actually raise it up. it was kind of waist level. swung is in our direction. >> so did he look at you and then just move on? >> yeah, at that point he turned
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around and kept going along the side of the east wall. and from there he at gunpoint hijacked a car. he threw the driver of the car out. and made his way past east walk. around that loop to center block. and then that is the last place i saw him. >> what did he look like? >> he had long black hair. and a white scarf. i think it was like a blackish blue pattern on it and a darker jacket. >> and do you know what happened to the driver of the hijacked vehicle? >> no, at that point i had hit the ground. actually, after i hit the ground i jumped back over the fence off parliament property. and at that point i looked to my right and i saw another man leaning up against the fence. he was wearing a somewhat similar scarf. he was really bundled up so i couldn't make out the facial
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hair or hair color, really even skin color. and while everybody was actually screaming and freaking out this man was just leaning up against the fence like nothing was going on. he looked in my direction and looked in the other direction and then took off. >> took off, you say running or walking? >> yeah, yeah, he took off running. towards -- >> and -- >> by parliament. >> have you talked to authorities about this other person? >> i spoke briefly to authorities, yes. >> what is -- i mean, as this was all happening what was going through your mind? >> i was just worried about the people on the street that were running into parliament from wellington, where the gunman was running right behind them. i was just concerned for their safety because i was behind coverage, so i was somewhat safe. so like i said i was just worried about the other people. >> well, scott walsh, i appreciate you being on to tell
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us what happened. this is obviously a difficult day for everybody in the country, for all of canada, and what happened in the halls of the city, and congress, mr. mayor, thank you for joining us. i'm sorry it is under these circumstances. what is the latest you know about the shooter? >> well, we know that the lockdown is over now. >> it is over? >> it is over. our police chief has confirmed that for me, and that has been pretty traumatic for the last several hours because people just have not known if there was a second shooter. that was what was going around. >> so are you now convinced there is not a second shooter? >> the best knowledge i have from our chief of police it appears there was just one shooter. and that shooter is dead. but it has been a traumatic experience obviously for not only our city but the country. ottawa is a safe city. we had up until today four murders after year. and very tragic that we lost a young soldier who was guarding
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the tomb of the unknown soldier just up the street from here and the national war memorial. >> to have an attack, the soldier killed at that memorial, it mean, it really strikes at the heart of the city, and this country. >> it does, and to have that suspect allegedly go up to parliament hill and if he had not been shot by i believe our sergeant-at-arms there could have been even a greater tragedy in our city. so it is a very sad time obviously for the soldier, the young gentleman who wanted to serve his country. and this is a relatively new program where we had honor guards guarding the tomb of the unknown soldier, just up the street from parliament hill. >> how concerned are you about people who have been radicalized in canada and -- we know this man's passport was taken away by canadian authorities just as the man two days ago who killed the soldier with a vehicle. his passport was also taken away. how big a problem do you believe it is in the city? >> i think for two years we
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thought of ourselves as immune from some of the international global terrorism. and obviously in a situation like this, we had another soldier killed two days ago in the province of quebec. it is a worry. but at the same time we don't want to turn parliament hill into a fortress. you know, we pride ourselves on having a very open, accessible approachable government in a democratic setting. but at the same time these kinds of incidents are going to happen. and we have to be prepared for them. >> there have been calls, i think it was actually 2010, to have all the security forces -- because there are multiple different agencies, to have them actually unified. do you think that is now more likely to happen? >> i think it is probably going to move in that direction, there is the senate security force, the mounted police patrol. the grounds, outside of the grounds it is the ottawa police. i think our first responders, police and paramedics did an excellent job.
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i don't think there were jurisdictional turf wars, but obviously there are questions asked about how somebody could get into parliament in the first place. >> and obviously there are concerns in the city about radicalization. obviously, it will be a topic of discussion. >> well, i think it will, we obviously have to wait for the police, first and foremost, but obviously, first we should pray for the family of the person killed first. but secondly, how are these young people being lured into this life-style. because we, like americans have a very good quality of life. a lot of opportunity for people, new canadians that come to our shores. and you know, what is driving people to go towards this kind of evil that would go and shoot an unarmed soldier guarding the tomb of the unknown soldier in our capital city. it is a very, very sad and
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tragic day for our city and our country. >> mr. mayor, appreciate your time, sorry it is under these circumstances. there is a lot more ahead, of course, we'll take a look at the calls by isis. obviously, on this intense and scary day, the question everybody wants an answer to is isis, all the latest information ahead. ♪ [ male announcer ] over time, you've come to realize... [ starter ] ready! [ starting gun goes off ] [ male announcer ] it's less of a race... yeah! [ male announcer ] and more of a journey. keep going strong. and as you look for a medicare supplement insurance plan... expect the same kind of commitment you demand of yourself. aarp medicare supplement insurance plans insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. go long.
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at the scene, more than ten hours ago here in ottawa, a lot of confusion for many. the breaking news at this hour which we just learned from the mayor, the lockdowns are over in this area, on parliament hill. people are now slowly being allowed to leave the offices, the buildings, the rooms that they have been kept in for more than ten hours now. after a soldier was killed just a few blocks from where we're standing the national war memorial, a gunman, minutes later opened fire inside the parliament building.
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that gunman was shot dead by the sergeant-at-arms. the canadian officials have identified the man as michael zehaf-bibeau, a recent convert to islam. and susan candiotti reported that based on a single u.s. law enforcement source that this man's passport had been confiscated by canadian authorities earlier. they were afraid he was going to go travel overseas to fight for a group like isis or some other jihadist group. today's attack obviously comes just two days after another man described as radicalized ran over two canadian soldiers with his car, killing one of them. that man was also shot by law enforcement. the questions officials have not been able to answer, there were certainly a lot of questions, was either attack directly connected to isis, were these related attacks or lone wolves. what do we know about the
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attacks? >> well, we do know about the one on monday, the official said it was previously based on the isis attacks. they said if you don't have an ied, a bullet, find a knife, use a car in a hit-and-run, do whatever you can to try to wage war against the non-muslims. >> it doesn't necessarily mean that the man two days ago had actually direct contact with isis. he could have just watched the video and decided i'm going to take up the call? >> that is right, he was self-radicalized. so last month canada actually raised its threat level from low to medium because of what they call the extremist groups threat. it is not that they have not been expecting it. in fact, both of these men were on radar. >> and they talked about confiscating the man's passport, apparently he attempted to go overseas and fight. >> that is the interesting
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thing, authorities have known about both of these men. both of them wanted to go to fight overseas. one was actually at the airport when he had his passport taken. that was the man who hit the soldier with his car killing him. injuring another. they questioned him and interrogated him. the problem is that authorities couldn't detain him or hold him. because there was no evidence, no proof that he actually intended to commit a crime here, in canada. so what they were doing was watching him, if this man, the same criteria, in fact his passport was confiscated that means the authorities would have watched him, as well. >> we don't know at this point whether there was any connection between these two men or whether the incident two days ago motivated this man today to act the way he did. >> that is right, people may say well, this is a copycat crime. they saw him and realized he could do something on his own. that is really what they're looking at, to see whether or not in fact if these are guys just acting independently or
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there was a network they were all on, acting together. martin ruleau, the man also shot, they're looking to see if there is a more extensive network, anderson. >> all right, deborah feyerick, appreciate that. it unfolded on a day in parliament where all parties were caucusing. this is what they saw. take a look. the television producer joins me now, you were an eyewitness, where were you when it all began?
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>> well, anderson, we were in the news room which is about a block from the war memorial. and you know, obviously, when we heard about what was unfolding, i was dispatched or ran to the scene, got there, sort of a couple of minutes after the shooter had fled. and you know -- >> at the war memorial? >> at the war memorial, absolutely. obviously, i witnessed a very chilling scene with a civilian woman along with some police officers, but the civilian woman was taking the lead and performing cpr on the soldier. >> mouth-to-mouth cpr as the soldier lay on the ground. >> and i mean, it seems like he was shot multiple times. it just -- is a horrific incident. did you see how many people were responding at that point? because at that point the government had already left. >> yeah, at that point there was not many people there. and after talking to witnesses, stunned was the word that people were using. people were standing there. it is an area where there was a
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lot of tourists. that is really mainly the people who were there. you can imagine the tourists are taking pictures and all of a sudden a gunman runs up and shoots a soldier. and one of the descriptions was the soldier sort of made eye contact with the gunman as he walked towards him, didn't flinch, and the gunman didn't flinch. these guys are up there for ceremonial reasons, standing at attention, i have seen people come up and take pictures of them. they're not supposed to move. >> there was another soldier on duty when went for cover when the shots rang out. i mean, we've also seen today so many people heroically acting. i mean, security personnel inside the parliament building. the sergeant-at-arms who ultimately shot the shooter. this woman who, i don't know if she was a nurse or trained but she was performing cpr. >> she was, and we have heard now that she was a nurse who was just passing by. but you're absolutely right.
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it has been a day of remarkable sort of response from a lot of people. you know? as you mentioned, the sergeant-at-arms on parliament hill, who actually ended up -- the gunman got down what is called the hall of honor towards the parliamentary library. and he was in the area where there were a lot of targets for lack of a better word and the sergeant-at-arms took him out there. so it was a case where a lot of people did the right thing quickly. >> what kind of impact do you think this will have on the people of canada? >> well, you know, we pride ourselves being a society that is open. you know after 9/11, security was certainly stepped up. it was still quite remarkable, you could come and go. there were security checks but nothing like in washington. and unfortunately, i think it is going to change. and i don't think it is something that is for the better. it is a way that our democracy is going to be tarnished by this incident. i hope not, but i think it will
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happen. >> thank you so much, it has been a long day. when we come back we'll talk to a member of parliament about what they witnessed. there was a lot more to learn what it was like inside the parliament during the shooting and aftermath. lots of uncertainty. again, i'll speak with that member of parliament coming up. ♪ there's confidence... then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. it's no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. and during the big tire event, get up to $140 in mail-in rebates on four select tires. ♪ from fashion retailers to healthcare providers, jewelers to sporting good stores, we provide financing solutions for all sorts of businesses. banking. loyalty. analytics.
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of an orderly way, letting people out of the building, where they had been held now for ten hours. joining me now is a member of parliament. i appreciate you being with us. i understand when you earlier this morning you realized something was amiss. what was the first indication something was going on? >> anderson, i was driving up to parliament hill to attend our weekly caucus meeting which happens every wednesday. our parliament splits into different rooms. so i was riding on the main street on parliament hill in the area called wellington street. and i came up on the right-hand lane, a car was stopped, completely empty and it blocked the lane. so i looked at it very carefully. so as i went around it i noticed that the car was empty. i think the windows were down, there was no one around, the flashers were not lit. it is not like someone was stranded. the hood was not opened. and i noticed as well, there was
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no license plates on the car. so i was very struck by this and in fact quite worried. >> and i understand you -- that clearly was the gunman's vehicle, from what i understand. i understand you saw royal canadian mounted police actually following the gunman? where were they following them? was this after the shooting at the war memorial? >> it was after the shooting, as i understand the timing of it. as i continued down wellington street, i was maybe two or three seconds later cut off by two vehicles that were traveling quickly with sirens blazing and so on. and they whipped along the corner and through the security check at the bottom of the hill of the parliament area and then raced up the hill to i guess attend this crisis. and i had never seen anything in my ten years in parliament of this kind so it was a very, very
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worrisome scene. >> it is incredible fortunate that the sergeant-at-arms was able to shoot this gunman when he did. i mean, there were a lot of people who were there to caucus. it mean, it could have been much, much worse. >> it could have been, i don't know what -- obviously this person was thinking or even if they knew where they were going. but we were very fortunate that kevin vickers, our sergeant-at-arms was there. he could have been upstairs in the cafeteria having a cup of coffee or who knows at a dental appointment on a caucus wednesday morning. but we're very fortunate indeed, very lucky that kevin was there and had the training and background. he is a former rcmp officer, so he has the training. we are very fortunate indeed. >> how concerned are you about the radicalization and citizens
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in this country. >> i think all the members of parliament and all canadians are asking questions about how this came to be and why this is happening and how much it is happening. it is obviously a difficult moment for confirmedanadians. i'm a member of parliament that represents the district right here in the capital. this is intensely personal for me. tens of thousands of the accountants have been under lockdown since this morning. so i think a lot of questions will be asked. and many questions have to be answered. >> david mcginty, i appreciate your time today, i know it has been an extraordinarily difficult day. thank you for joining us. there is breaking news at this hour, now learning the alleged shooter, michael zehaf-bibeau, before he converted to islam, his name was michael joseph hall, according to american officials. michael joseph hall, and the man just hailed as a hero, you heard
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mr. mcginty talking about him. the sergeant-at-arms, kevin vickers, credited with shooting him. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis, an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. learn more about the role damaging inflammation may be playing in your symptoms with the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis.com. and then speak with your gastroenterologist.
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also a security officer was shot in parliament hill, shot and wounded but many people are also saying it could have been much worse. you just heard that from a parliament member, mr. mcginty, and many are calling the sergeant-at-arms, kevin vickers, they say vickers is the one who took down the attacker, shot and killed him before he could do anymore harm. vickers is a veteran of the royal canadian mounted police and was a member of the house of comm commons before being appointed sergeant-at-arms. john, thank you for joining us, i understand you first heard your brother shot and killed this gunman while watching television this morning. what was your reaction? >> well, you know from a family perspective just a lot of concern to hear that gunfire. and then hear my brother's name mentioned over and over again. certainly, was just real concerned about his well being. and as the day progressed was an
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extraordinary relief to know that he was okay. and that at the same time very, very proud of what he had to do today. >> have you been able to talk to him rkts and and he is doing ok? >> i talked to another brother of mine who is a school teacher in the northwest territories. and he had texted him today simply saying are you okay? and my brother was able to get back to him and let he know he was okay. and i also understand he was talking to my mom out in atlantic canada and let her know he was okay. so just a real extraordinary relief when you heard those gunshots and know that your brother was in the middle of all of that. was a very surreal experience. and horror, and as i say, subsequently followed by a lot of relief. >> and in his career, as a --
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with the canadian mounted police, did he at any point ever have to use his weapon? >> in 28 years, with the royal canadian mounted police, he had not from what i understood used his weapon in exchange of gunfire. and to think that as sergeant-at-arms for the nation, and parliament of all places to have to be involved in something like that as i say is quite surreal. >> john, what kind of impact do you think that this is going to have on this city, on this country? >> well, you know, of course this sort of thing is very, very rare in this country. however, in the face of terror and this nation has ability to stand tall and proud and we'll -- we'll certainly never allow those who commit such horrendous
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acts to go unpunished. and we have a lot of resiliency, canada has had a long history of protecting interests. not just at home but around the world. and as i say this certainly will not be preventing the country from moving forward and tackling whatever challenges we have head on. >> a lot of pride here in canada. and certainly a lot of pride in your brother, john vickers. thank you so much. we'll be right back with all the latest information. they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. for respawn, building the best interactive entertainment begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall,"
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welcome back, we're live in ottawa, we just got an update, the downtown perimeter has been lifted in ottawa. we do have a number of other stories we're covering, randi kaye has more. >> anderson, the official autopsy of michael brown shows he suffered six gunshot wound entrances, including in the hand close range courting to the st. louis dispatch. the toxin report shows that brown had been using marijuana. and journalist ashoka mukpo has been released from the hospital, free from ebola, says he can never repay the debt to the hospital. and this new photo shows amber vinson at home, today she
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was declared ebola-free. and nurse nina pham has now tested negative for ebola. and will be tested again before the quarantine ends. all right, randi, thank you very much. we'll gather more information, don lemon will be on at 10:00 p.m. i'll be back more with the latest in ottawa. starting right now, mike rowe's, "somebody's gotta do it." we'll have more over the next hour. hi, i'm mike rowe, last time i went home i got the crabs, got them real bad, all over my hands and face, and my parents were outraged. this time i'm going again. it is true, oysters exchanging fluids in a
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