tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 24, 2014 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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over-reaction tonight that may actually hurt efforts to stop the spread of the virus in west africa. and hannah graham, her remains have been identified. we begin with the high school shooting in marysville, washington. >> was reported by an anonymous cell phone call. at 10:41, the school resource officer was on scene, at 10:43 we confirmed the shooter was down, at 10:49, acars entered the scene. we then called for a full s.w.a.t. team. and the snohomish county team is on ground, on campus conducting the investigation. students who witnessed the incident are still on campus being interviewed by detectives. at this time we are confirming
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two fatalities, one is the shooter, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. two patients remain at providence hospital. two patients are currently at harborview medical center. they were transferred there from providence hospital. all of those that are in the hospital are under the age of 18. we do have some road closures, 108th street in front of marysville pilchuck high school is closed, to west of 51st. the mph entrance remains closed, as well. next, i'm going to introduce the school superintendent dr. berg. >> hello, i'm dr. becky berg, the superintendent of the marysville school district. first and foremost, we want to extend our thoughts and prayers
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to every family affected with this tragedy. and truly, when one of our children is hurting we are all hurting. it happens to all of us as a community. we are indeed heart sick. student's safety is our top priority. we're working closely with law enforcement. i would like to talk about some information with the coming week. right now we will close marysville pilchuck high school for the week of october 27th out of respect for the students and families affected. we will continue to evaluate that decision. extra curricular activities are closed right now, the other activities including the pool. from 6 to 8:00 p.m. we'll have grief counselors available to anyone in the community who needs them. the counselors will also be available tomorrow morning from 9 to noon. as some of you may know, tonight
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was supposed to be our high school football playoff game between marysville pilchuck high school and oak harbor high school. we have received word from the oak harbor school district that their high school has offered to take second place in the playoffs due to our cancelling the game. we also understand teams around the league will be wearing red and white in support of marysville pilchuck high school. now i would like to introduce our esteemed mayor. >> thank you, becky. you know, as i said earlier our heart goes out to the community. our thoughts and prayers are with primarily those who have lost loved ones today. also those who have injured loved ones right now, and also we want to extend we have kids all over the community that know the kids involved. our hearts are with them and their families. i know it is important for you guys to get information to do
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your jobs tonight. we received good information today. we just ask that you give law enforcement and everybody involved basically the time they need do it correctly and accurately. it will take a long time for our community to heal from this, and we'll get about that work right away. and we just appreciate all the support we're getting from all the local jurisdictions and from county, from state, from federal. everybody is involved. everybody was on the scene quickly. and receiving phone calls from all the folks from our state and federal delegation as well. we just so appreciate that support from our community. we'll need that in the coming days. with that, i would like to introduce herman williams to say some words. >> thank you, on behalf, i want to make a statement today. i'm deeply saddened by the terrible tragedy in our elementary school school district. our prayers are out to the families and the entire community.
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our first priority is to support the families and the children of those involved. our community has reeled from this experience. we ask that the media and the public and families during this time of grief, sadly we now have experienced what has become a national trend. and we, as a society, must address this issue. the fact that tribal members were involved makes it extremely hard to stop any inquiries you may have, until we know all the circumstances, as chairman, i ask for you to pray for all the family and children involved. again, we're deeply saddened by the tragedy, why it would happen in our community, we can always say we can watch it on tv, but wow, here it comes walking in our door. i hope that us, the school district and the mayor and others come up with a solution,
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again, thank you very much. >> thank you, chairman williams. i'm the snohomish county coun sheriff. i want to talk for a moment, how we're involved and how to reiterate some of the comments this evening. the snohomish county office was involved in responding, and not because of anything specific but because law enforcement in snohomish county works very well together. it is expected we partner on major sad events like this. specifically, the smart team, the snohomish county team is currently working in the high school. they will continue to work through the night. i know you all are going to want specific information and details. out of respect for the family and out of respect for the event we're not going to provide that. we have a duty and obligation to get the facts and we're going to do it and do it carefully. lastly, i would like to thank
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you for your help. and i want to introduce chief rick smith. >> thank you, sheriff, i'm rick smith and i'm the police chief for the city of marysville. first off, it is tragic we have to be in front of the media having to talk about this issue. our hearts and prayers go out to the families who were struck by this tragedy. and so on behalf of the police department and the city i want to let you folks know that we care about you. we love you and we're going to be there for you. i have a couple of comments that i would like to make. i know that there is considerable interest in naming the shooter. in fact, you're seeing stuff all over twitter and social media at this time. we're not going to confirm any names at this time. by providing his name and background information would simply dramatize somebody who
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perpetuated a violent crime where kids should feel safe. that is the bottom line, they should feel safe. i will not promote that motivation by giving any time to the shooter. instead, we should focus on the heroic efforts of the teachers and students who were moved to safety. and the students who helped one another to manufacture in an orderly way despite panic and certainly what was going on inside of them by sheer fear. had it not been for the quick, composed actions we may have had an even sadder story to report on today. i would rather focus on the immediate response by emergency personnel who moved swiftly to secure the information and to tend to victims. and the joint response by the marysville police department, marysville fire department, snohomish county sheriff's office. arlington and lake stevens police departments. the fbi, washington state patrol.
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atf. marysville public works and many, many others who are here to include the chief of the tribes, carlos echeverria. you know, we have -- we deal with this situation through the media. and quite frankly it is time for us as a country, as a nation, and certainly for us as a city to look at what is going on. maybe look at our values and determine what we're going to do and help those who may possibly need help and stop this. so it's time for us to act. and not just talk anymore. thank you. >> officials in marysville, washington, after the shooting at the local high school. we want to go to susan candiotti who is on scene for us. susan, what have you learned today about how the events unfolded and just to point out we are not naming the shooter as a longstanding policy on this
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program. susan? >> exactly, anderson. well, it happened during the lunch period. one of two lunch periods. that is what students tell me they have at that school. so it was just before 11:00 a.m., here, when all of a sudden the witnesses describe that the shooter in this case walked into the lunch room and walked up to a table. everyone says it was not a random act. it did not appear that way to them. walked up to the students and opened fire into the backs of the students. that is what they're saying. witnesses describe to me hearing at least six gunshots. some people who were inside. some people in the hallway at first thought it sounded like trays falling so some people didn't put two and two together. but immediately in the cafeteria as you can imagine there was pandemonium at first, it was described. but then everybody said they ran
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for it, ran for cover in the recall w hallway. and from there, some students ran to get away from the shooter and others went to the classrooms. at some point there was an announcement made that the school was in lockdown. and so students knew what that meant although some of them didn't know there had been a shooting. and they stayed inside the classrooms and credited the teachers to keep everybody calm until everything could be sorted out. so it was a terrifying moment as centers describe to me what it was like being there when the shots rang out. >> and the official in the press conference said the shooter took his own life. the weapon he has used was traced back to his father, correct? >> that is what a law enforcement source tells me. so whenever that happens, a search warrant is executed and so we understand that a search warrant will be executed to get
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more information about that. >> and the shooter, by all reports, was popular, played football. was originally named to the homecoming court. do authorities have any idea what may have motivated this attack? >> you know, they really don't at this time. there is a lot of talk on social media and from students who have spoken say they can't figure it out either because he was so well liked. however, some are talking about the fact he broke up with a girlfriend. others are saying it may have something to do with this. he was suspended recently within the last few weeks after at a football practice he got into a fight with another student who witnesses describe were giving him a hard way to go. some say he was being bullied. and some say that racist comments were made to him and that he lashed out and fought with that person and that is what led to the suspension. however, the suspension was already up and that is why he was back at school, anderson?
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>> five students were shot. one of them has died. susan candiotti. joining us now is cnn law enforcement analyst and a former fbi assistant director tom fuentes, and shawn henry, and dave, let me start off with you. so much of what we think about school shootings is wrong. and your book really proves that. and that is what i learned from reading your book, i recommend everybody read it if they want to understand the shootings. he was well liked. you say that is not surprising. >> not really, i heard the congressman today saying this kid did not fit the stereotype. most school shooters don't fit the stereotype. the stereotype is wrong. there is no correct type of stereotype or profile so there is nothing that fits.
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they are almost always boys. 98% of the time they have suffered some sort of failure or loss. and most of them have been deeply depressed. >> for quite a while, the idea that they just snapped, there may be a precipitating event but there is a history event. >> yes, exactly, it is much more an evolution, a graduation of a couple of different things. one thing that jumped out at me is, there are a couple of things, talking during susan candiotti's report, this may or may not have been targeting at a table. i heard a lot of this today. what i heard there was it looked like he walked up to a particular table. well, you have to choose a particular table, right? you have to pick one. so no matter if he is walking up there, thinking, grabbing the first one that came to him or he had one in particular it looks exactly the same to the observer. >> and the bottom line it is
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still too early frankly to know -- a lot of the conclusions that are drawn early on. just as in columbine turned out to be completely wrong. a lot of stories generated, and eyewitness testimony turns out to be incorrect. so we want to be cautious how we report tonight. it was reported the shooter acted alone, is their priority just piecing together the motivation for why he did this? >> yes, i think so. the problem is you may never know the motivation completely of what was going on in his head. what was just mentioned, if he is suffering from depression, people looking at it from the outside may think they have the whole world going for them. good looking, money or fame. or in this case on the football team. but deep inside of them or in their head, they may not think so. they may feel they're disrespected or not being treated properly. or if he asked a girl out for a date and she said no he may feel
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humiliated and further depressed. and often that level of depression illness not readily apparent. and it builds up over a period of time, like another brick, another brick, a person decides that is it and takes a gun to school and takes action. >> shawn, in the press conference they talked about the time line when they responded and praising their response. it is interesting, you pointed out the fbi did a huge study of shooter situations and found that those that happen at schools the vast majority are over in five minutes or less. that is significant, because it also has some indication about what to do about the next time and how best to prepare for something like that. >> yeah, that is right, anderson, the fbi did a review looking at 160 incidents over the last 13 years starting in 2000. of those 160, about 39 were specifically related to incidents in school or educational facilities. in the majority of these cases across the 160, about 70%, these
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incidents were over in five minutes or less. and about half of those incidents were over in two minutes or less. so absolutely, we have to praise law enforcement and appreciate their response. but the reality of it is for some of the victims and people in the school they have to take action sometimes. and i think that the preparation that schools can have in terms of training, teachers and administrators and even students much the way we do with fire drills. because if something like that happens we see in tragedy again it oftentimes will require those people to protect themselves. they're not going to be in a position to wait for law enforcement to respond. >> you know, tom fuentes was mentioning depression, and it is really important to focus on it. again, to outward appearances somebody can be happy and popular and be the jock of the school and be inside feeling like they want to die. they want to kill themselves. you saw that in the journals of
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columbine. >> i did, klebold, i knew he was depressed and thought i understood the extent of his depression. but nothing really prepared me for reading, for two years he went on. and the level of just distraught and crying out to himself and frequently crying out to god and angry at god, why did you create me so miserable, pathetic, horrible, nobody likes me, i have got nothing. >> and yet he had an active social life and his mom had no idea this internal horror was going on. >> exactly, his family did love him. lots of people loved him. robin anderson who asked him to the prom adored him. he had quite a large group. it seems like a popular kid, happy, but what is going on inside? we have no awareness. and kids are great at hiding
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that. they're humiliated by it. we all had times in high school where we felt embarrassed or humiliated. i hid it from everybody, from my family and friends, i wasn't talking about it. you don't really know what is going on. >> we're going to talk to you again, shawn henry, tom fuentes, and a student also, we'll talk to him about what he heard and more importantly what he wants people to know about one of his friends who lost his life tonight. just ahead, the governor of new york and new jersey, on tough new guidelines on people who come back from hot zones with ebola. the question is will it make the outbreak even worse? how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy.
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three students are critically ill after gunshot wounds, nate heckendorf knew the shooter, today he is with us. i know this is an extraordinarily difficult day for you. what do you want people to know about your friend? i understand you were friends with one of the victims? >> yes, one of the victims -- i have known her since about fourth grade. she is a pretty outgoing person. loved to talk to people and get to know people. she just -- you know, she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> you were not in the cafeteria when this happened. you were at the school and heard the gunshots. what went through your mind when you heard the shots? >> you know, at first i didn't even think they were gunshots. i have heard noises louder than those shots. i was coming out of the bathroom on my way to my fifth period. i heard a couple of loud bangs followed by another couple of
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bangs. i heard a couple of loud screams but just thought it was normal high school life. i was on my way to my fifth period, i saw a couple of people running around, kids running around doing their own thing. i made it to my period class, and right as i sat down the fire alarm went off. you had everybody going out to the stadium with a fire alarm, everybody thinks it is a fire. and then you have the other classroom, everybody think it is a big deal. and then teachers ca s came outd us to tell everyone else that we need to go back into the classroom, stay safe and stay away from the windows and we are in lockdown. >> and you really praised the reaction of a lot of teachers? >> yeah, i mean, the reaction of the teachers, the teachers handled it well. you know, i didn't get to see a lot of them. but i think the main role that they played was just to keep a
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calm demeanor and just let the kids know everything was going to be okay in the classes, make the classroom safe. >> i understand you know the shooter, and we were listening to the previous guests. and often we don't know what is going on in somebody's mind. and this was somebody who was well liked. >> yeah, he was well liked by the community. he was a respected kid. he was homecoming prince. i talked to him a couple of times. i even talked to him today before school knowing about a couple of problems that occurred in the past. i just talked to him, said if there is anything you need i'll be here for you.
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come talk to me immediately. we did a little hand shake. didn't look like -- didn't look like he had any acts of anger towards any students. so it was really shocking. >> he had been suspended recently for fighting, is that correct? >> yes, yes, there was a fight that had occurred. >> so you actually saw him this morning. and -- it seemed normal? >> yeah, he seemed pretty much content with life. i saw him, you know, i was talking with him and said like i said if you need anything just come to me, talk with me and i'll be here for you. did a little hand shake, he was on his way. i didn't see any signs of anger or aggression. he looked like a normal high school teenager on a friday morning. >> is there anything else you want people to know, nate? >> i would just like to tell people that you know it is not always -- the kids that are basically -- like you know in his case, he was well liked by the community. i mean, there are still kids that do have problems and they're facing problems with their own life. just to look out for them and if
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you see any signs of change give them the help they need. >> nate heckendorf, i appreciate you talking to us. and take care of yourself and for being with us. >> thank you. >> as always you can find out more on this story, and others at cnn.com. just ahead, more breaking news, two states tightening ebola screening at airports. the question is, we're talking about new york and new jersey. this came as a surprise to some officials, question is, will it do more harm than good? and also, the attack on the four new york city police officers, they are calling it a terror attack. we'll tell you what they have learned.
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. well are a lot of major stories happening tonight. one of them we're following closely, the ebola case developments. one change in policy, new york and new jersey today announced and surprised many mandatory quarantines for high-risk travellers returning from west africa countries with ebola outbreaks. now, that is a step above the cdc guidelines, here is new
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york's governor andrew cuomo. >> we believe it is important to increase the current screenings for people coming from infected countries from the current cdc screening procedures. we believe it is in the state of new york and state of new jersey's legal rights to control access to their borders. >> well, new jersey has already ordered a female health care worker to be quarantined under the new policy which is already sparking controversy. when dr. spencer returned from guinea, he followed the self-monitoring advice. today he is stable in an isolation unit. elizabeth cohen joins me from bellevue. so the details of this quarantine, what do we know now here? because this surprised a lot of people. >> reporter: it certainly did, i think it even surprised the cdc folks. you know, anderson, it is stunning how few details there
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are. so they will be quarantined. so how do they get from their home to the cab or hospital, how do they get on the bus? presumably, many of them have families. their family could get sick. also many people go through jfk. i was speaking with a doctor coming from sierra leone, coming through new york on his way to new orleans. so does he get stuck here for three weeks? there are so many different things. also, we're talking a lot of people. will there be policemen outside everybody's doors to make sure they don't break quarantine? a lot of unanswered questions. >> and is this something the cdc has recommended at this time? >> reporter: it is not something they recommended at all. now, they are reviewing their policy. they said everything is on the table. maybe we'll recommend the quarantine maybe we won't. maybe we'll recommend something in the middle. and there is something in the middle. they could tell workers, you
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know, we would prefer, please don't go to restaurants or bowling alleys. you can get on buses, you can take a walk, you won't come in contact with somebody. a lot of people like that middle ground. there is a down side to this quarantine. people don't often recognize that. workers don't want to do this. so they won't go to africa, help people in africa. it gets worse there, and if it gets worse there it will get worse here. >> and i want to bring in dr. seema yasmin. sanjay, you have been to west africa. they are working extremely hard to stop the outbreak. the fact in new york and new jersey they're subject to a 21-day quarantine, when they return will that prevent good people from going over there and not doing the work? >> it is likely to have an impact, anderson, this is one of
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those things where first of all an organization, doctors without borders have been doing this for a long time. they have very specific guidance. this is not just the cdc. they say the quarantine is neither recommended nor is it warranted. these are not just words, but based on science. these people are risking their lives to help, and coming back and having to follow something decidedly non-scientific. it is the collision of science and social fear. the science is not changing. it is the fear. the politics and fear. i have tweets from people that are understandably fearful. the people who are coming back, unless they are sick they are not a threat. >> and the fact this quarantine is being put in place only in new york and new jersey.
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somebody, all they would have to do is to avoid flying into new york airport or jfk airport, go to a different airport as they come back from west africa or travel through europe or elsewhere. >> yes, obviously, there will be a lot of holes in the whole system here. maybe other states will adopt this. maybe they wouldn't. maybe it is unclear. as elizabeth was saying, maybe even the cdc was surprised. doctors without borders were surprised. look, they have been doing this for a long time. when they make these recommendations it is obviously to keep their workers safe. they have done it for a long time and looked at the science driving it. so how it plays out, whether it is a temporary thing, is it just populism, and appeasing this. various aspects, travel bans that didn't make sense, this may be another aspect of that. maybe it goes away after a
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while. we'll see. from a scientific perspective which is a very important one here it just doesn't make a lot of sense. >> well, i mean, you look at the travel ban, people who were hiv positive that was just lifted in the last year or two, or two or three years. that was a travel ban that didn't actually make any sense and that was born out of fear or early days of the virus. dr. yasmin, i understand you know the nurse who was quarantined in new jersey, what can you tell us about her? >> she is a very hard-working dedicated nurse who worked for many years for doctors without borders. she returned about 12:30 at newark airport after spending a very long emotional and intense month in sierra leone after the ebola case management sent her. and it took her about two days to travel from sierra leone, arriving in the u.s. she is stressed and tired and exhausted and desperately wants to get back to see her family.
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but her welcome back to the u.s. was having her luggage pushed into biohazard bags, pushed into a room without information where she was going. and what was going to happen to her so she was very confused and upset by this. >> and sanjay, again, this just bears repeating. this is something born out of politics and fear, understandable fear on a lot of particularly laymen's parts. but if the fear is letting this virus get worse in the united states it may have that actual effect because it will -- if it prevents health care workers from going to liberia, if they're saying look i can't take three months and go there and an additional 21 days off afterward, if that prolong -- if it stops hundreds of health care workers from going to fight this virus that is just going to continue to make us less safe here. >> i think there is no question.
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i mean, look, you already heard some of the numbers here, a possibility of 10,000 cases per week. that is as things stand now. if you start to disrupt that system, by increasing the number of health care workers who want to go do this work, that is even worse. people come back and are put in quarantine for 21 days there is a stigma associated with that. they will be treated differently. people are going to think they are a threat. again, i've been over there, i have seen what is happening in west africa. you have been to these places around the world, anderson, these guys are going there and risking their lives to help others. it is incredible, incredible work and then to come back and be treated this way for no scientifically valid reason that is what is really important to stress here. again, i don't want to dismiss people's fears. all they have ever heard of ebola is how terrible a disease it is, the terrible symptoms that it can cause, despite that
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welcome back, we're just getting word from new jersey health officials who released a statement saying the health care worker detained at newark today has developed a fever and is now in isolation and being evaluated at new york hospital. dr. yasmin, you talked to this woman who returned earlier today. does she -- does she have a fever? does she acknowledge that? >> so anderson, i spoke to her just moments ago, she says her temperature was taken with an
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oral thermometer, more accurate than forehead scanners, three times the reading came back at 98 degrees, she said sadly she was treated very badly at the airport, was not given information, was stressed and upset. she felt very flushed. a forehead scanner was used there because they had no type of thermometer and the temperature then came back with 101 degrees. but then the oral temperature came back at 98. >> okay, the new jersey department of health put out a statement she developed a fever. you're saying based on your conversation with her directly when they took her temperature at the airport they did it without actually the oral thermometer. and that they did it when she was upset. and i guess angry or crying or whatever it may have been. >> absolutely, that is correct. she is actually very upset that the new jersey department of health has not put out the more accurate information that the oral temperature came back at 98
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three times. >> so three times, subsequently, her temperature is at 98 degr s degrees, good information. thank you for that. and the health department is tracking down anybody who may have had contact with dr. spencer who just began his battle with the deadly virus. and nina pham is on her way home, the texas nurse was discharged from the facility where she was treated and met president obama at the white house. she contracted ebola after treating thomas eric duncan who did not survive. she was the first american to contract ebola in the united states. her colleague, amber vinson, is free of the ebola virus and has not been released from emory hospital. and jason carroll has more on retracing the steps. jason joins me from outside bellevue hospital. so jason, what is the process on
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this? >> reporter: well, basically what is happening the medical experts have retraced dr. spencer's steps, basically going to the locations he went to, whether it is the meatball restaurant here in new york city, the highlighted populated area on the west side of manhattan. he visited that one. also going to another place called the blue bottle coffee shop on the high line, finally ending up at a bowling alley, a place called "the gutter" in williamsburg. and this is what health officials have to do, retrace all of his steps based on what he is telling them. also based on his credit card and things like his metro card, and basically going over all the places and trying to find out exactly where he was before he got sick, before he started
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showing the symptoms. remember, he didn't exhibit a fever, that 103 point fever until yesterday at 10:15 a.m. and immediately after that he contacted doctors without borders and contacted health officials. where he then became quote unquote, symptomatic. >> have you spoken to any of these people and if so what is their reaction? >> yeah, it is interesting, we spent the day going to the same places. i rode the subway, speaking to people there. you get sort of a mixed bag. i mean, you definitely have a sense from some people who have fears and unease about having somebody in the city who has ebola. but overwhelmingly, anderson, most of the people we spoke to said we will still ride the subway, and go to the meatball shop, which by the way has reopened. when it really comes down to it
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people have confidence in the system here and medical officials here in terms of how they have been handling it, at least so far. >> all right, jason carroll, up next, more breaking news, the man swinging the hatchet wounding two police officers. we told you about it last night, why the police say it was in fact an act of terror. how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing.
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the hatchet attack in the borough of new york city, is in fact a terror attack, one of the policemen is in critical condition, two other police shot and killed the suspect. deborah feyerick has more. >> reporter: a violent police attack in new york city is the latest of three tragic attacks. authorities in the united states and canada are investigating them this week. all aimed at people in uniform. all seemingly inspired by terrorism, all authorities say, by loners, self radicalized, on line. >> today, the market here is mass marketing. they play to a wide audience on a web platform with sophisticated mentssaging and videos and outreach on the assumption that if just a few buy into that narrative and act out independently that will be enough. >> reporter: police say that is what inspired queens new york resident zale thompson, who
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critically injured one police officer, two other officers opened fire, killing thompson. >> was this an act of terrorism? it appears at that point that was the suspect's intent. >> reporter: a friend of thompson believes that the attacks came more from his feelings about police. >> there are a lot of people upset, i think he is one of them. >> reporter: thompson's attack happened after canada's attack. in ottawa, wednesday, michael zehaf-bibeau shot one. and in all three cases, the men's ties to isis or any other organization are very much in question. but run-ins with the law were a common trait with the attackers. at least two had a drug abuse case. >> he had a very violent history
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with drugs and mental instability, combined with some of the things that gave rise to radicalization. >> where does drug abuse and criminality come into play? >> i think the fact that some individuals had problems with mental health can make it easier to make the leap from the belief towards action. >> action that now has authorities in two countries wondering if this was one bad week or the beginning of a violent, unpredictable trend. >> and deb, the nypd is saying this was in fact a terror attack, they're doing it based on the social media? >> they're looking very closely at all of it. it is really interesting, the police commissioner said it is an act of terror, but qualified it. now the fbi, we have learned, is going to launch an independent parallel investigation before they make their determination. everybody is really treading on this very, very carefully. they want to make sure it is one
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thing and not a multitude of things. but they're looking very carefully. >> all right, deborah feyerick, appreciate it very much. we're live all next hour on "ac360," we'll have update on the deadly school shooting in seattle. the student opening fire, wounding several others before taking his own life. now what ths meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this.
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well, good evening, thank you for joining us tonight, four young people are in the hospital with gunshot wounds, three are critically ill, another has died shot by a classmate who apparently took his own life. it all happened in marysville, washington, about a half hour north of seattle. the student entered the classroom to a table with about four people, and shot at them five times before turning the weapon on himself. late this evening, the local authorities spoke to the police chief, making one thing very plain. >> we're not going to confirm any names at this time. by providing his name and background and clues to his motive who would simply dramatize somebody who perpetuated a cruel act against kids. that is the bottom line, kids should feel safe going to school. i will
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