>> first this morning, the governors of new york and new jersey say they are not going to take any chances tot possibility of ebola spreading. >> so anyone who arrives at two major airports in those states and who's had direct contact in west africa, they will face mandatory quarantine for 21 days. >> a doctor overnight has tested negative for ebola. but this is a preliminary test. >> now we're covering this from all angles. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cowen is outside bellevue in new york. >> aaron mcpike at the white house and nick valencia live in

atlanta. and we're starting with elizabeth cowen. the first patient diagnosed with ebola dr. craig spencer, at least the first in new york city, he is right there at bellevue. how is he doing? >> we're told he is in stable condition, on his cell phone, he's talking. sounds like considering he's really doing pretty well. >> how are officials retracing dr. spencer's movement. we know there is of course this process happens every time someone is tested positive for ebola. but how in this case are they making this work in all cities new york? >> reporter: so -- and new york is particularly tricky because people move around a lot to a lot of places so they tried to ascertain when he first started feeling sick, which sounds like october 2 1st and then he went into the hospital the 23rd. so that's two days of the tracing. and you go to a lot of different places. in his case as we know he went

bowling. he won't to a few restaurants, he went for a walk on the high line, which is this outdoor area here in new york city. he went to a variety of places. now they are not concerned about people that he might have walked past or just said hello to. that is not the concern. the concern is who might have shared bodily fluids with him. so that is why they are so focused on his fiancé and two close friends. >> so new york and new jersey are tightening restrictions amandaing that workers who had direct contact must be quarantined for 21 days. do we know the particulars how that is going to happen? how you mandate that? whose going to check up on them? what the consequences will be if they don't comply? >> reporter: victor we don't know the answer to those things. and when i've reached out to new

york and new jersey officials to ask these questions i don't get any answers. feels a bit like they put out the policy and didn't think about how they were going to implement it. quite a few healthcare workers come here and land in new york and jfk. huge airports. how are you going to get to wherever you're quarantining them. they have families. what are the family members supposed to do? the point of the quarantine is to be alone. do you move family members out. do you post police officers outside their doors? and they are concerned about people who are healthy. well if you are healthy you can't spread the virus. so it is a lot of questions as to why they are doing this. and this is a downside to doing this. they think they are making things better. but in fact they are discouraging healthcare workers from going to west africa to help out with the outbreak there. and if we don't have people helping out there things will

get worse here. >> so many questions. if you have child care, whose going to bring groceries and whose going to pay me for the next 21 days because i have to be quarantined. we're going work to get e those answers as well. elizabeth cowen in new york. thank you so much. >> and the nina pham is cured on back home. but she made a stop on the way hope to give the president a hug and show the doesn't country that yes she is indeed free of the deadly virus. >> president obama hugging nurse nina pham to show americans the ebola scare is under control. just minutes after her doctor did the same. >> she is cured of ebola. let's get that clear. that is for sure. >> i'm on my way back to recovery even as i reflect on how many others have not been so

fortunate. >> i think this also should be a apt reminder that we do have the best medical infrastructure in the world. >> reporter: the white house given the alarm over a new ebola patient, a doctor in new york city, was quick to point out one of the cdc swat teams the president ordered was on the case. >> i'm told this swat team arrived the same evening this individual was a confirmed ebola patient. >> reporter: but on capitol hill a leader called the overall response dangerously inconsistent and inadequate. >> no nation would ever contemplate sending soldiers into the battlefield without armor and weapons. give us the tools we need. all we ask from president obama and congress is not one more infected nurse. >> reporter: and republicans continue to question why the president named a political aid, ron klain, to lead the effort.

>> one of the terrific things about the way the government works together is that experts come together all the time. your tremendous. >> i'm going to take that as he has none. >> and aaron mcpike joins us now live from the white house. what was the takeaway from yesterday's hearing on the government's response to ebola? what was the underlying message this. >> reporter: well allison one of the big issues that came up was this idea of a quarantine and the u.s. has committed some 3,000 soldiers to help treat and fight ebola in the countries effected in west africa. when those soldiers return, they are supposed to spend 10 days in quarantine. but lawmakers were asking some testifying if it should be 21 days instead. to that end there was a meeting here at the white house yesterday morning and they discussed this. and are still evaluating whether or not it is a good idea. and also ron klain, who was not at that hearing yesterday, he

will be meeting with new york and new jersey officials in the coming weeks to discuss it alstal alison. >> so many discussions happening on the fly. >> now the race is on to find people who may have had contact with the new york doctor who tested positive for ebola. they need to quarantine them before this virus can spread. live at the cdc in atlanta. how is the progress on finding these people? >> reporter: good morning vicker. we know it is a difficult process and very challenging for these so called medical detectives. they start from scratch really, patient zero to see who may have had direct contact with patient zero, in this case craig spencer. and they do one of two things after that. they isolate and quarantine the contacts or they decide this person is not necessarily a direct risk of the public. and they monitor them over the course of that 21 day period to make sure they have no signs or symptoms of ebola and see particularly if their fever

spikes. we know in the case of spencer that at least three people had direct contact with the 33-year-old new york doctor, his fiancé and two friend. health experts say they are being monitored and quarantined right now and so far they are doing well. and we know amber vincent travelled to emery university hospital to get a treatment for her ebola infection. the latest is her blood tepss have come back clear but we have no indication if or when she will be released. >> excellent news there. thank you nick at the cdc. >> and learning more about yesterday's deadly shooting in a high school cafeteria. dan so i'm season in everett, washington. dan. >> reporter: another horrific shooting here in washington state. we'll have the details coming up. what caused this shooter to go on this rampage? we'll explore those questions coming up. [ male announcer ] tomcat bait kills up to 12 mice,

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a brave teacher apparently tried to stop a school shooter moments before he took his own life at the end of this deadly rampa rampage. the spree at marysville pilchuck high school in washington. >> we now have new information about the student who is may have been targeted. by jalen fryberg. dan simon joins us from everett washington. i would imagine this is still a community in shock. >> no question allison. there is a deep sense of shock.

any time you have a horrific situation like in this. but perhaps even more so in this case. this was a popular student. certainly doesn't faiit the profile. meanwhile we're here at a hospital in everett where two of the victims are being cared for. they are in extremely critical condition of course and the focus is on them today and the police investigation. >> hundred s gather just hours after a nearby school shooting. it was around 10:30 a.m. pacific time, students gathered in a crowded cafeteria at marysville pilchuck high school, 40 miles north of seattle. when fellow students and eye witnesses say freshman opened

fire with a handgun he specifically targeted. >> he came up from behind and fired about 6 bullets into the backs of them. and they were his friends. so it wasn't just random. >> students scattered. many in the rest of the building say they thought a fire drill was underway and many ran outside. >> he's sitting behind me. i heard the shots. i fell over and i just got over. i saw everyone running and i ran. >> in the hallways teachers started herding others in classrooms and ordering a lockdown. some inside places a 911 call and by 10:40 police were storming the building. going room to room placing tape over doors of those they have secured so they would know what had already been checked. and in the process they

discovered the gunmen. by noon, officially saying he was dead apparently having shot himself. a female student was also killed in the attack. and four injured students are hospitalized. the grandfather of one of the survivors says the shooter and two of the wounded are related. >> all three of them are cousins. all three are cousins and they live right close to each other. >> he was considered to be a very well liked student and the freshman athlete was recently elected homecoming prince. but his social media paints a different picture. shows active engagement and pride in the native american tulalip tribe. he loved the outdoors. smiling here fishing on a boat. and another picture hunting. but turn to twitter a second more troubling image appears. he tweet ee eed multiple times . it breaks me. it actually does. i know it seems like aim sweating it off. i'm not. and i never will be able.

to i'm tired of this expletive. i'm so expletive done. and hours before the attack he sent this. it won't last. it will never last. where students who live through the attack it is a day they will never forget. >> i heard the kbuns guns and i turn around and he's pulling it and shooting everywhere. and there's blood everywhere and some got on other girl's faces and stuff. >> we're still trying to piece together the final moments of what happened but we understand a teacher tried to intervene. she raced up to the shooter and try to put her hand on his arm and at that point he turned the gun on himself. i think the ultimate question is to what degree that may have altered the outcome. of course that is not clear but certainly a brave action if indeed that happened. alison and victor. the scandal another the university of north carolina

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while new york and new jersey are ramping up ebola

travel restrictions, under federal guidelines every passenger who comes into the u.s. from countries with ebola will be actively monitored for 21 days. >> that is starting monday and all u.s. bound passengers from liberia, sierra leone and guinea have to land at one of five airports in the u.s. that have enhanced screening procedures. and some lawmakers want a complete ban on flights ebola nations. >> live from denver, congresswoman joins us. good to have you. >> good morning, great to be with you. >> good to have you. on october 16th at a hearing when dr. frieden head of the cdc was on capitol hill, you said the best way to stop ebola is to stop this virus in africa. is that not the single best argument for a travel ban? fight it there so americans don't have to fight it here. >> well the first thing we have to worry about is making sure

our country is safe. and then also stopping it in africa. a travel ban, because we have now international travel all around the world. if we don't stop it in west africa, what will happen is people will travel out of west africa all around the world, to europe, to south america, to asia. and ebola will start to spread all around the world. eventually it will make itself here. so what we have to make sure is that we -- we stop it there. you know, for every one infection now, eight people are being infected. so if we don't take a strong international effort then it will spread and there won't be anything we can do to stop it. now i will say this. >> what you are saying here, and i hate to interrupt but before we move to the second point, which i will let you finish. it sound like you are making the argument for a travel ban. i know from listening to your statements during the hearing that you are against a travel

ban. but when you say we have it fight it there before people from west africa travel all over. that is's what happening. why it's in spain and the u.s. and other parts of europe, right? >> what i'm saying is that people will travel all over. it is a porous border an international economy. but my point is in the week since the hearing that we have the cdc has now clarified its guidelines. they are requiring everybody coming in from those three countries to go to one of five airports, where they will be screened and monitored. and they will be monitored for 21 days after they get here. i think that is a good idea. we need to realize ebola is not transmitted by air, like the flu or something else. and so if somebody doesn't have a temperature or any of the other symptoms, then they are not contagious. they are not going to make other people sick. it is a very fine balance. and i really rely on the public health officials, both the cdc

and the international healthy officials to find that very fine balance so we can get health workers into those countries to stop the spread of ebola but at the same time protect our own borders. so the issue has evolved a little bit since the hearing. it is nuanced. it is hard to fine that balance because we want to have doctors like our brave dr. spencer who went over to treat these patients. but then on the other hand when he comes home we need to make sure that americans are safe too. so it is a tough call but we really need to make sure we stop ebola in west africa. that is o going to be the most effective prevention for u.s. citizens. >> the obama administration says it is o considering a mandatory quarantine for healthcare workers coming back from west africa. and new york and new jersey have imposed that. but should this have been done sooner. because there is a lot of questions where do you quarantine these people?

there ara lot of particulars that don't seem to have been worked out yet. >> right. there is a lot of o particulars that haven't been worked out in new york, connecticut and new jersey about where you will house these people. so i rely on the public health officials. i did tell the cdc though they need a bright line. and subsequently they said okay, we're going to only let people come into these five airports. we're going to monitor them everyday. but i think we need a clear test. and i think we again we need to realize people with no symptoms, a fever or other symptoms, they are not contagious. they are not going to infect other people. so it is a fine balance between getting our people to go over and help treat these ebola patients. and they are very courageous to go on the front lines like that. and then also making sure that we protect public health. so i don't think we should overreact. but i do think we are going to have a clear task so people know

what to expect. >> congresswoman before rewrap up. i want to get this in. you said before the hearing that america is not a fortress and the -- it would be unreasonable to have this travel ban from people coming from sierra leone and liberia and guinea. but you know three countries that do have travel bands, they have clolzed their borders. sierra leone, liberia and guinea. if they are willing and subscribed to this idea of closing the borders and travel bans to protect their people, why shouldn't the u.s. do the same? >> what i'm saying is people will leave these three countries. they will go other places. and they will make their way to the united states. we don't have any non stop flights from these countries to the united states. everybody who leaves them flies through someplace else. so you are not going to be able -- we shouldn't delude

ourselves to say we're going to be safe if we're having a travel ban. but what we will be doing is stopping aid workers from coming in and out and preventing the disease there. so i think we need to have strong requirements on people traveling but we need to be careful we don't stop aid workers from going in there. >> congresswoman, thank you for being part of the conversation this morning. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back ♪

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for an entire year. . welcome back. i'm alison kosik. >> i'm victor blackwell. they were his friends so it wasn't jut random is how one witness described the shooting spree at the wa high school that left one girl dead and four others two boys, two girls in intensive care. >> and now we're hearing the grandfather of the gunmen says that two of the wounded students are the shooter's cousins. and police are saying in the end the gunmen killed himself. >> and we're just getting details in here. we just received this update from investigators with the snohomish county multiple agency

response team. they completed their agency. they recovered the .40 caliber handgun, the beretta we've been discussing. we also know as part of the investigation they have interviewed more than 100 students and detectives were able to confirm that a cafeteria worker attempted to stop that shooting. and some of the witnesses to yesterday's deadly rampage described the scene in the cafeteria as shear panic. it was a melee. and earlier i spoke with alice peach, a 15-year-old student inside the cafeteria where the shots were fired. here is what she told me. >> i was in the cafeteria. it was like any normal day. nothing seemed out of order. but i heard four shots. and i looked behind me and i see a gun pointed at somebody. i don't know if it was -- the person was on the ground because it looked like they were shooting at their feet.

but i look at and as soon as i saw the gun though i ran towards the wall. and i was hearing more shots, but not exactly sure because everything was happening so fast. but after that i just ran out of the exit. and i called my mom. >> those four shots you heard, were they back to back in quick succession? or were they spaced out over a period? >> they were quick. >> okay. and you say that you ran out. i imagine -- we see video of the students running out of the school now. describe for me this escape for these hunszs of students. we know there were 2,000 at the school but hundreds of students in that area. >> well not a lot of the kids got out. i only had about 20 kids with me that got out of same area. i know a lot of people stayed in the cafeteria.

and i don't know why. but -- i don't know how other kids got out. i think there was a lot of kids outside too. so they just left because they heard the shots. >> al alice, duo you know the victims here? >> i know some of them. >> what can you tell us about them. >> well they were very great people. they were so nice to me. all they wanted to tell me was, you know, how -- you know, it's really sad for me to talk about it. but they were just great people in general. inside and out. >> and of course we want to thank alex again for speaking with us this morning. >> the pain if her voice. so difficult to listen toem. i feel so bad for them. >> hopefully if four students recover. three teenagers from denver are now the latest in joining in

isis. why is isis so successful in luring westerners?

for a group of radical antiwestern milt nlts, isis has been surprisingly effective when it comes to luring westerners with social media and while officials say there is no indication thursday's ratchet attack in new york was tied to the islamic group. and what motivated the attack in ottawa on wednesday, three teenage girls from denver were without question seduced by isis. the girls apparently spoke an isis recruiter and jumped an overseas flight with hopes of joining isis in syria. german authorities caught the trio. but many others have made it to isis. about a thousand westerners have already joined the terror group. more than one hundred are americans. so what's going on here.

what is this? what is it about isis and its uncanny ability to rekruts westerners? >> the main thing is that nothing succeeds like success. this is a group seen to be successful. they have taken territory. they are holding territory. they have tanks. they have weapons, modern weapons. this is a very different kind of group fa the other terrorist groups we've seen in the past. these are not people hiding in cages. so that makes them tractive to a certain kind of people. people who have most like willy other issues any way. s . on top of that the sophisticated experience that social media experience. and builds on other groups. isis has gone farther in regard. al qaeda had a program isis has taken and refined and it made it more sophisticated.

>> what is it that isis promise these americans they can't get here. and what is it is that draws them? >> a very nihilistic view of the world. the idea that you can go and die for a cause and in the meantime you can live like the prophet and his followers lived 1400 years ago. at least that is the promise. it is not the reality but that is the promise. so some people who want that, who want some cause that is bigger than themselves and can't find nit their immediate vicinity find that attractive. and these are not well adjusted young people. they clearly have other issues, psychological issues. i'm sure once we begin to dig deep entire the histories of these three young women well find they are probably missing something in their own society. in their own neighborhood that they are looking for online. >> so what do you think. how can the isis propaganda

machine be stopped at this point? >> well one thing to keep in mind is that if you live by social media, you die by social media. so in fact a lot of these -- a lot of this tweeting and youtubing and facebooking that isis members are doing is actually leading to them being exposed and caught. in fact isis recently in the last couple days issued a notice to all of their members saying don't go on social media so much. because you are giving away your location. and in fact it would appear that some of the attacks against isis, maybe even the attacks of the united states air force has been conducting, some of the information about where to attack comes from being able to look at their social media profile and look where they are tweeting from. there have also been examples where isis fighters have boastfully put up pictures of themselves on facebook and instagram and people have been able to use the picture, look a what's in the background and

triangulate it and identify where they are. so it's a double edged sward for isis. they propagandaize using social immediate but also give themselves away from time to time. >> is it enough to fight ice fi online? it is hard . >> it is hard to do. the message they have compared to what isis is offering is not very exciting to these people who are attracted. it is a message of normality. be normal. live your normal life. that is to a certain kind of young person whose looking for something beyond normal that is not a very attractive message. so the fight against social media ironically will have to probably take place in the real world. parent, teachers, fellow friends and neighbors. they are going to have to play a big part in trying -- in keeping an eye out on people and see if

they are the kind of people who are likely to to be seduced by these idea, to talk to them and embrace them and show them a different way. the as long and difficult fight. bad news or sort of bad messages tend to move faster on the internet than good ones. >> all right. knowing your kids and knowing what your neighbor is up to. that helps. analyst, bobby gauche, thank you for your analysis. >> any time. >> and we're going to talk about that last point. the u.s. has a strategy to beat isis working on line. is it working or too late? we're going to talk about that in a moment. but first, and of course this weekends ones to watch series, we are exploring the art of portrait painting. an emerging british artest has been commissioned to paint a portrait of the a woman with royal connections. a reminiscent of a certain well known drama. >> he came on foot rather than carriage. but otherwise richard toos is a

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in the obama administration's battle against isis it is mostly the military tactics we hear ab. the air strikes, supply and weapons drops but the there is another part of the fight the administration has been ramping. combatting the group online. we have video produced by the state department and its aim is to fight isis recruiting efforts by highlighting its barbaric

nature using the groups own footage. the important question is, is the strategy working? is is it too little too late. joining me james glassman, former sect right of way state for public affairs and the the bush administration. good to have you withis. >> thanks victor. >> is this working? >> i'm not sure if it's working. it started a bit late. i can think of more effective means of combatting isis recruitment. there is a lot of disallusioned recruits. people who found isis was not only violent but practiced sexual depredations, really was not living up to the advertising. and to get some of these disillusioned recruits to talk about television or on youtube just the way i'm doing now about what really happened to them, that would be very effective. >> so hearing from more of these former jihadists would be more effective. >> absolutely.

and lots of them and there are questions whether they will let them back into irthat home questions. and one of the things we can do is yeah you can come back you need to go on television and tell everybody what really happened. >> you talked a timing and saying it started a little late. the obama administration was maybe a little late to determine there was a group necessary to battle the recruiting online specifically. how would we or the country be in a different position if this started a year earlier? >> let me paint a bigger picture. it seems to me what we're missing here, and maybe we're just beginning to get to it. is that we're engaged in an ideological war. a war of ideas, as we talked about when i was nin the bush administration. and that's a been pretty much abandoned. prime minister cameron talked about it saying it was the most important part of our battle. and i think that a commitment of the war of ideas is enormously important. right now in the world there is a big vacuum that extremists

radical violent islam is filling, and we have our own ideology. in fact most of the world has this ideology, about freedom, tolerance, justice, peace. and we need to be standing up for it and being very, very firm about it. and i really don't see that happening. so we need to join this ideological war just as we did with the battle with communism. just as we did with the battle with naziism. there is a connection among boston and ft. hood and what we're seeing now with isis. and it is a warped ideology. but it is one that is quite attractive to a lot of people. and we need to push forcefully back against it. >> during your time at the bush years you were tasked with combatting al qaeda's presence online. how is fighting al qaeda different than fighting isis

online. >> i'm not so sure it is all that different. and i want to empbz that online, that the internet is just a tool. it is a very effective tool but it is only a tool. no different from pencil on paper and much more important to get the strategy straight and the messaging straight. and for example, i think the message that should be conveyed and i've said this many years stharks whis that what's going on now is the battle for the soul of islam. islam is in conflict. we're being drawn into that conflict. but we need to see it in those terms. yes you can certainly use online tools. but i think online tools as bobby was saying before me, can be somewhat dangerous to the jihadists. it exposes their recruits to other opinions for one thing. where normally what you want to do with a recruit is isolate him or her bombard them with images and send them off as canon fodder. they generally don't last very

long but during that long they can be effective at killing people. we need to get to them before they are bombarded and isolated and i i think some of the methods i talked about can be effective. >> many of the jihadists see the u.s., the west, the u.k. as the enemy. is this a fight that the u.s. should lead online with getting the former jihadists to speak? or should this be led by muslim democracies or the members of the coalition who want as desperately to defeat isis as the u.s. and u.k. do? >> great question. the most effective voices are muslims themselves. when we have americans who are christian or jewish and talk about well, you know, this is not exactly what islam is all about. that is not very effective. so absolutely. people in the region or muslims from america. but we need to take a leadership role in standing up for our own values. i think that is very important. but yes, absolutely.

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and dr. wendy ross is one of our heros. that will do it for us today. >> there is much more ahead in the next hour of the cnn newsroom. >> have a great day. it is the 11:00 eastern hour of the news room which begins right now. >> he's sitting behind me. i heard the shots. i fell over and i got up and saw everyone running and i ran. >> searching for answers this morning. why did a popular freshman open fire on his student friends at school? >> at first i thought it was just someone making a really loud noise with like a bag with like a big loud pop until i heard nour more after that. and i saw three kids just fall from the table. >> one student and the gunman