hello again, everyone. i'm frederica whitfield. we begin in marysville,

washington, a community in pain after a school shooting. we just learned that two 14-year-old girls are being treated at one hospital and that they are in critical condition. >> we've seen tears, we've seen anger. they are just -- just grieving. right now i think they are just settled in. things are quiet. they know the circumstances. they're hoping for the best. but the next three days are going to be crucial. these young people are being monitored moment by moment. they have a nurse at their bedside constantly. a doctor is very nearby constantly. all the neurosurgeons have rounded this morning and they'll be here rounding throughout the day. but this will be a process. it takes -- we won't know a whole lot more for the next two or three days. >> two other victims are being treated at a second hospital and earlier today that hospital said a 14-year-old boy is still in serious condition and a

15-year-old boy is in critical condition. witnesses say 14-year-old jaylen fryberg opened fire and then shot and killed himself. outside providence regional medical center where the two 14-year-old girls are being treated, susan candiotti, what can you tell us? >> well, no one could have expected it and it will take some time for them to recover from it. i was speaking to a student who was a junior at the high school to told me -- and this is pretty chilling -- that he had a conversation with the suspect at the beginning of the day.

they said he seemed perfectly normal, content. they did discuss that he had recently returned from school after a suspension. authorities don't know what the motive is in this case at this time, but this is one thing that we'll be looking at. he was suspended according to witnesses after he got into a fight at a football practice with someone who had made some comments to him, allegedly comments that amounted to bullying. some call them racist comments. and this is what the junior told me about his brief conversation with the shooter yesterday morning. >> it was a moment just to kind of follow up on what was going on in his life. like i said, i wasn't -- i'm not -- haven't ever been that close to him but i've spoken with him and talk to him like i do to other people that i see around school. i just told him, like i said, to talk to me, come talk to me if he ever needs anything. and his final words that he said

to me about what had happened with the fight, he said it was an act of anger or it was an act of aggression and he should have used his words. those were the last words he had really spoken to me and it really hit me pretty hard. >> reporter: and yet the suspected shooter in this case was also the prince of home coming recently and is describedsdescribed as a leader in the school. they're looking at tweets that he left that might give authorities some clues about what happened here. the school meantime closed for the week, no school activities, they've been cancelled, too, as this community trying to come together. obviously it will take some time to heal. >> susan, what about jaylen fryberg's family? what if anything are they willing to elaborate on in terms

of his behavior leading up to yesterday and even now after the shooting? >> well, they're not saying anything at this time, at least his immediate family lives on a native american reservation in the area. and although a grandfather of one of the shooting victims did speak outside a church service on friday night and said that it's hard for them to comprehend what happened since at least two of the shooting victims are relatives of this young man. so everyone is trying to wrap their arms around what happened here. no one has any answers. it's very difficult. now a law enforcement source also tells me that the 40 caliber handgun that was used, a semiautomatic handgun, belonged to the father. this is also something that authorities are looking into. >> all right, susan candiotti, keep us posted there from

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a new jersey health work are who just got back from africa tested negative for the ebola virus. elizabeth cohen is outside bellevue hospital where dr. craig spencer is being treated. how is he doing? >> we're told that he's in

stable condition, that he's able to chat on his cell phone. all in all he has a terrible virus, of course, but he's in pretty good shape. it would have the most populated states, new york and new jersey, are stepping up their efforts against ebola, announcing a possible quarantine or hospitalization for any airline passenger coming in from a west african nation hit hard by the deadly virus. a mandatory quarantine would go into effect for travelers who had direct contact with an infected person. >> we want to consider a person's risk level by considering the geographic area of origin or level of exposure to the viruvirus. >> this comes as officials continue to look for calm. >> the patient continues to be stable at bellevue hospital where he remains hospitalized on

the isolation unit. >> the 33-year-old doctor returned last week after treating ebola patients in guinea with doctors without borders. three people in contact with the doctor have been quarantined, including his fiancee. s a haz-mat crews work to decontaminate his apartment, officials continue to look for those he may have come in contact with. >> on wednesday, just one day before his diagnosis with ebola, he was out and about in new york, visiting a brooklyn bowling alley, going for a jog and riding the subway. the metropolitan transit authority released a statement listing their procedures about isolating and disinfecting rail cars to help calm new york commuters, adding that it's safe

to travel. this amid good news from the national institutes of health in bethes bethesda, maryland. dallas nurse nina pham is ebola free. >> this has been a very stressful situation for me and my family. i have my health back. >> reporter: exactly when she turned the corner is hard to pinpoint but the blood transfusion from dr. brantly could be a factor. >> when you have so many different factors at the same time, it's virtually impossible to say that this is the thing that did it and this is the this evening that didn't do it. >> reporter: pham was invited to

the white house where she received a hug from president obama in the oval office. and amber vinson no longer has the virus detected in her blood and she remains under close watch. i've been talking to brave nurses and doctors who risked their lives to work with ebola patients. they say they won't do it again if they know that they're going to be quarantined when they arrive back in new york and new jersey. they say, look, we've taken a month off or so to take care of folks in africa. to have another three weeks where we can't take care of our patients back home and can't see our families, that would be too much. fred? >> elizabeth, stick around because we want to bring in dr. celine gounder. when you see nurse pham who is

being discharged and you heard dr. fauci say she didn't even get one of the experimental treatments, what does this tell you about the way you can treat or handle ebola patients. it doesn't seem like there's a straight-line method. it doesn vary, doesn't it? >> i think if people come for treatment promptly, ebola is treatable in this country. not everybody is going to die, far from that. the on person who has died from ebola so far is thomas eric dunk a -- duncan. there was a tremendous delay in starting his treatment. all of that is essential to treating ebola patients.

>> so it's fair to say that hospital really failed him because they didn't fully assess everything he had presented, his condition or even the information that he gave them. they didn't know what to do or how to identify it. but now you have a host of hospitals across the country. you have a number of hospitals in many states that are saying we can handle an ebola patient. how do those hospitals say that confidently so that people understand and believe them when they say that they're ready? >> i think you're going to see a similar approach to what's been taken in new york state. in new york state, a number of different hospitals have been identified as ebola referral centers. here you have bellevue, mount sinai, presbyterian. and the advantage of doing that is the cdc can target its training efforts at those specific hospitals.

they're tertiary care centers, they have icus and other high levels of care. we can also assure that the appropriate protocols and guidelines are being followed. >> elizabeth, in new york i believe it eight hospitals have made it very public that they can handle ebola patients, bellevue included there and some of the others that were just monies mentioned. but when you have states like new jersey and new york who take it upon themselves who say we're going to issue these mandatory quarantines for these medical workers, mandatory 21-day quarantines, it almost sounds like there is no longer that cooperation on a local and federal level. might that be problematic? >> well, i think there's two difference things that we're talking about. one is new jersey and new york's desire to quarantine perfectly healthy health care workers who

couldn't give anyone ebola, whether that's really a smart decision. and the second thing is once someone does have ebola, whether it's a health care worker or someone else, remember thomas eric duncan was not a health care worker, who is ready to handle it and who is not ready to handle it? dr. gounder said it well. some hospitals have drilled and prepared, have had training and have thought through the best way to do this. i would add one more thing, that you need to have a staff, particularly a nursing staff, that wants to do this. you need to have a staff that feels comfortable that they know the precautions to take. in nebraska those nurses felt comfortable. they were part of a team, they felt prepared. you have to have a staff that feels prepared. they are the ones who are risking their lives. >> dr. cohen, dr. gounder, thank

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new questions about a hatchet attack on a group of new york police officers is now called an act of terror. they say zale thompson was not tied to any terror group. he charged the officers with a hatchet, striking one of them in the back of the head. the officer is still in critical condition. well, this attack, along with this week's fatal shooting and a deadly hit and run on soldiers in canada is ramping up fears of more lone wolf attacks. listen to what matthew olson told cnn's jim sciutto. >> i would say the most likely type of attacks is one of these home grown violent extremists or lone offenders in the united states. >> joining me right now, george michael, an associate professor of criminal justice at westfield

state university and author of "lone wolf terror." do you agree the risk of a lone wolf attack is now greater today with the rise of isis? >> yes, i certainly would agree with that. there are a number of factors that are really contributed to this lone wolf trend. for one thing it's more difficult for established terrorist groups to mound operations because there's really been massive homeland security apparatus erected after 9/11. moreover, there's much more intrusive surveillance so technology works against a lot of these established terror groups. on the other hand, these terrorist movements have taken advantage of the internet and other forms of the new media and they're able to absorb people who sympathize with their message. >> do you think this is really like the strategy of a group like isis, to try to appeal to

someone who is bold enough to do it on their on or isis and groups like it have just become kind of benefactors or people enamored by the idea or their interest is sparked by way of what they're seeing from isis and other groups and they decide to take it upon themselves with no direct affiliation with a group and then just carry out an attack? >> well, both things that you said are true. on the one hand, groups like the islamic state and al qaeda, they do have outreach programs. for example, al qaeda has an online english magazine called "inspire." americans are featured in that. so, yes, they make a choice, they make a decision to reach out to these sympathizers. on the other hand, a lot of the lone wolf terrorists follow events around the world, for example, u.s. air strikes in syria and some of them become

radicalized, they're disaffected by these policies and they undertake these attacks on their own initiative. >> this makes it a lot more difficult for law enforcement counterterrorism groups to identify this lone wolf, to identify and spot whether someone is up to something before it actually happens. >> yes, i agree. because when there are fewer people involved, it's less likely that the plot is going to be foiled by intelligence. on the other hand, these lone wolves do not live in a vacuum. often times they express their views on platforms such as facebook. they come into family members and with people with whom they work. >> and so bragging sends up a red flag possibly? >> absolutely. >> george michael, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, ma'am. >> still to come, just days ago jaylen fryberg was named

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bottom of the hour now. welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield. good news in new jersey. the hack worker quarantined after treating ebola patients in africa has tested negative for the virus. and dr. craig spencer is in stable condition today in a new york city hospital. he tested positive days after returning from west africa. and now officials are trying to find out who came in contact with the doctor after he was hospitalized. >> and disbelief after a student opens fire at school. >> i saw three kids just fall

from the table like they were falling from the ground dead. >> i jumped under the table. >> a school employee tried to stop the shooter, jaylen fryberg, briefly grabbing his arm before he killed himself. we just learned the name of two victims. dr. joanne roberts says they are both in critical condition with head injuries. >> we have two patients that remain here at providence regional. they're both young women, both are 14 years old. one's name is shaylee, she goes by the name of shea to her friends and she remains in critical condition. the second patient is gia soriano, also 14 and also remains in critical condition. >> and now the question, why? what turned a popular students

into a killer? some signs may point to his activity online. cnn's ken law investigates. >> reporter: social media shows two images of jaylen fryberg. he loved the outdoors, smiling here fishing on a boat and in other pictures hunting. this picture on instagram shows him holding a rifle. this is not a weapon believed to have been used in the fatal school shooting. fryberg seems to love his family writing "probably the best birthday present ever, i just love my parents." but turn to twitter and a second, more troubling image appears. in recent months the freshman tweeted multiple times a day, "it breaks me, it actually does. i know it seems like i'm sweating it off and i never will be able to. i'm tired of this [ expletive ],

i'm so [ expletive ] done. and before the shootings he wrote this, "it won't last, it will never last." a friend of the shooter said that horrific incident came out of nowhere. >> i heard his girl friend broke up with him. the tweets that everyone's been retweeting throughout the last couple of days of their conversation has been pretty brutal honestly. so like that could have been affecting it. >> and now to the latest ebola case in the u.s. health officials are actively tracing all the people who may have had contact with dr. craig spencer. nick is live at the cdc in atlanta. how is the progress of being able to locate all of the people that he may have had contact with? >> it's certainly a race against the clock for the cdc medical detectives who are tasked with figuring out who may have had

contact with dr. craig spencer. it really starts with spencer, where he may have been. they either isolate and quarantine those contacts or deem them not a risk to the public safety and they may monitor them for this 21-day incubation period, making sure their fever doesn't spike, things like that. in spencer's case, he had at least two direct contacts, his fiancee and his friend. they say so far they're being monitored and they're doing well. >> and you're near the hospital where amber vinson is being treated. what is her condition in. >> we got the latest update. she's one of two dallas nurses who contracted the virus while treating thomas duncan.

amber vinson's latest round of blood tests came back clear. we don't know if her release is imminent. the releases about her condition have been sparse from emory hospital. we'll be sure to stay on her condition throughout the week. >> nick valencia, thank you so much. >> you bet. >> teen girls taking off from a denver neighborhood allegedly on a mission to join isis. how the terror group recruits young people and what the u.s. can do to stop it, coming up. i lost my sight in afghanistan, but it doesn't hold me back. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. non-24 is a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70% of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms

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we'll tell you what happened and what's next for these girls from denver, colorado. >> reporter: as friends describe it, sisters, just 15 and 17 years old, along with their 15-year-old friend were so determined to join isis, they were halfway to syria before they were stopped, thanks to the father of the 15-year-old who discovered their plans after looking at his daughter's computer. he called authorities and contacted his friend, state representative daniel kagan. >> she had been tweeting to her friends and discussing this plan to go to syria and strike a blow for justice, as they saw it. >> reporter: authorities say when they were stopped at germany, they had their passports, some clothes and about $2,000 they'd stolen from their parents. the girls are you are back in

the united states and back at home with their families. >> she had no idea what she was getting involved in. >> reporter: at the apartment complex where the sisters lived, neighbors say they're concerned with the possibility that the girls will do something against the u.s. since they weren't able to fight for isis. >> if they knew what they were doing, i'm really concerned. >> they could just pick up arms any time now and go around the schools or wherever and show up at school and just start killing people. >> reporter: these aren't the first colorado teens with aspirations to join jihad. 19-year-old shannon connolly was arrested in april on her way to syria. she pleaded guilty to conspiracy to provide material support to terrorist organization. the three teen-agers are not expected to face charges, in part because they're minors.

kagan said he believes the girl were recruited online. according to intelligence estimates, more than 100 americans have joined isis to fight in iraq and syria. is there a concern that one or more of these girls will do something down the line? >> well, that's a legitimate concern, and this is why the fbi is going into extraordinary depth as to how this came about, what has happened since they were apprehended. what -- how much do the girls involved feel an affiliation with this corrupted ideology that has been pedalled to them? >> reporter: none of the girls has returned to school. both sets of parents are cooperating with authorities as the investigation continues. >> so now we know what happened but the bigger question is why?

jeff gardier is a clinical psychologist and welcome to both of you. teen-agers, some can be lacking in self-esteem and that makes them more vulnerable to making decisions aren't the best. do we think that isis is using that kind of information to try to target the more vulnerable young people? >> and i think that's exactly what is happening. looking at the weaknesses, perhaps where they feel there's a lack of family, these youngsters now can latch on to something that offers them significance, that offers them a freedom that they've never had, perhaps some of these girls are raised in very restrictive homes and now they are able to have

this individualation, where the fact now they feel completely insignificant and lost and unhappy. >> you know, you can speak to these threats directly because you came close to becoming radicalized yourself. what would lead these young girls to take such a drastic step? is it as simple that they're seeing via youtube or social media the promises that isis is making, you will get freedom, martyrdom if you join us? and match that would what seem to be their access to the reality of what isis does. how could they be, i guess, duped or tricked like this? >> well, the professor is absolutely right in terms of the

psychology, individual and groups. these are things that scientists have studied for some time. but especially in the case of muslim girls, like the professor said, bring up in very strict homes. they like the jihadi bad boys. these guys are on videos, they're shooting guns, they're looking macho, looking like heros. this looks attainable. and the other side, they see this and recruit these girls online, like a child groomer or sexual offender would promise them relationships, gifts and treats and what not. a lot of these women now are seeing when they get there, it's a very different reality than what the brochure showed them. >> so what would be your advice to counterterrorism

professionals who would try to stand in the way of any more recruitment. what could they do, that entity do to try to better inform a lot of these young people who are the more vulnerable to not get roped in to wanting to join isis? mubin? >> i think the solution is really collaboration and cooperation with community organizations, to have the community organizations mobilize parents, to have parents understand that the parents don't want to see their 14-year-old girl gone the next day, you know, to a place like syria or to join a group like isis. parents need to have a more positive approach with their children. in a lot of these cases you have cultural communities where the old world culture and new world culture is in complete clash, and this is not going to go away so easily. this is a challenge of

integration. sometimes the government is not best equipped to intervene at certain points. >> okay. >> so also to know where we can -- >> i'm going to have to leave it there because our signal is pretty spotty there. and jeff gardere, thanks to you well. appreciate it. >> all right. nfl teams are getting ready for a big game on sunday, but the commissioner might have his mind elsewhere. why he may have to testify about what he knew about the ray rice domestic abuse scandal next.

fiancee in the face in an elevator. the players union has repealed that. >> roger goodell could be forced to reveal what he knew about the ray rice scandal and when he knew it.

according to multiple reports, an arbitrator is telling the the nfl commissioner he must testify next month when ray rice appeals his indefinite suspension. both side agreed to let barbara s. jones hear the hearing, which is not related to any criminal case. the nfl benched rice after he knocked his then fiancee unconscious in an atlantic city elevator in february. rice was originally suspended for two games, but his punishment was extended in september after a more detailed video was released showing rice punching and dragging palmer. goodell is expected to face questions about what they talked about when the two met over the summer. rice's lawyers argued the nfl and ravens violated a collective bargaining agreement. rice's appeal hearing is set for november 5th and 6th. >> thanks so much. i'm joined now by sports

attorney, david cornwell and a new york by sports analyst, keith reed, glad both of you can be with me. david, to you first, you used to be an attorney for the nfl. this is rare to see the commissioner testify in this matter. what does this mean big picture? >> this means we're going to get a window into the disciplinary process. we've never been able to see. i've been on both sides representing the commissioner and players asking that the commissioner be compelled the testify. we've never been able to see into the commissioner's mind regarding the disciplinary process and one thing with roger, commissioner goodell, he actually talks with a lot of people before he composes discipline, but he's never had to testify. >> so, in this case, he is, he is going to have to answer what was the difference between the two-game suspension when you see that the fiancee was being dragged out the elevator and all that changed to an indefinite

suspension once the internal elevator tape was revealed. he is going to be pressed on how much, have you seen this before, what did you think preceded the young lady being dragged out of the elevator and how do you go from two-game suspension to indefinite? >> here's where lawyers become lawyers. a single question. what did you think happened when you imposed two games and what was different when you saw the video of the elevator? now, that single question will take four hours. they'll be asking that question from every angle because it really is what this is all about. seeing this young lady being pulled out of the elevator unconscious leaves anybody to conclude that something happened in that elevator that rendereder unconscious. now that we see what happened, why are you increasing the discipline? >> so, keith, what's also difficult here, perplexing maybe to a lot of people is that

punishment is really at the diskrex of the commissioner. that is in the policy, so, if the commissioner says this is what i saw fit at the time, this is what i thought prior to the events of seeing the entire tape, so, you know, this is the way i see it and the policy supports my you know, discretion. >> sure. and i've said since the beginning of this whole matter that the real issue with all of this in the nfl is the fact that the commissioner is judge, jury and executioner. he answers to no one. he's not used to answering to anybody and this is an instance in which he's been criticized over and over and over again for how arbitrary his disciplinary decisions have seemed to be and it's coming back to bite him. so much of this is about how trans parent the nfl is not. and so much of this is about how fair the process doesn't seem to be when roger goodell and roger goodell alone hands out punishments for things and does not explain those decisions. this is the first time he's ever

going to be compelled to have to explain it and that's going to be as interesting as what happens to ray rice going forward. >> is this a start of a transparency or is this just you know, a blip on the screen, this is how it's being handled now x but don't expect every case is going to be with this kind of transparency. >> from our perspective, the media, we look for one size fits all solutions. roger's power, best interest of the game power, goes back to the 1920s and the black sox game. every commissioner in sports has the best interest of the game authority, which is absolute. you don't have to answer to anybody. that's why you're the commissioner. that's not going to change. but what will change is the manner in which we deal with domestic violence. perhaps the manner in which we review his decisions, but he will not nor should he give up his authority to act in the best interest of the game because that's why we have successful

leagu leagues in all of the sports, because of the commissioner's ability to lead based on his understanding of the best interest of the game. this is a private business. this is not congress. this is -- we get to look at it like that, but it's a private business and he's responsible for leading it. >> so, keith -- okay, go ahead. the roll here is for ray rice to be reinstated, is this the path in which he must go in order for that to happen and then go ahead, keith. on your other xhept, too, what david just said. >> to answer your question, yes, this is the path that's out. they have to go through this arbitration process, although there's a big question as to whether or not ray rice will play again because getting reinstated doesn't mean any team has to sign you. what i wanted to challenge a little earlier, was this idea that the nfl is strictly a private business and that the best thing for the league is roger goodell acting on his own. listen, roger goodell acting on

his own is the reason we're here. he didn't necessarily act in the best interest of the league. he didn't do this thing that was right for everybody involved and he hasn't acted on domestic violence in the way he should have going back to belcher, who killed somebody and then killed himself. public subsidies and all kinds of things that you can't just look at them like they're a private business and we're hands off. >> we'll have to leave it right there. got a quick comment on that? >> again, one size fits all. all these circumstances are different. that's why we have commissioners with the authority to determine what's in the best interest of the league. >> thanks to both of you. we've got a lot to fill on that. thanks so much. i appreciate it. and new information on those injured in yesterday's school shooting. that school shooting in washington state. why did a popular freshman shoot his cousins and peers? next. ♪ who's going to do it? who's going to make it happen?

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