a difficult time. jean, thank you. thank you everyone for watching. we have important news coming up with the dallas nurse being released today. we don't want you to miss a moment of it. my colleague, wolf blitzer, starts right now. breaking news, any moment now, we're expecting amber vinson to make an appearance. the nurse is now ebola-free after a harrowing ordeal. you'll hear her first words since getting released from the hospital. the new jersey governor chris christie getting slammed by the left and the right for his handling of the recent ebola scare in his state. but in true fashion, governor christie is not budging. > . as for that nurse, kaci hickox, she's back in maine insisting she's fine. why are residents in maine there, at least some of them, pretty upset at her return? hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 5:00 p.m. in london.

7:00 p.m. in ankara, turkey. 8:00 p.m. in baghdad. we're watching the breaking news here this hour. ebola-free and speaking out. any moment now, amber vinson will be making a statement. she's being released from emory university after being infected with ebola. the other nurse, nina pham, she was released from n.i.h., the national institutes of health hospital, on friday, right outside of washington in bethesda, maryland. both nurses contracted ebola after treating thomas eric duncan, the liberian visiting friends in dallas. he died from the disease. we'll bring you the news conference. amber vinson's remarks live. stand by for that. all of our cameras are ready. there are a lot of people in that room getting ready to receive her. they are really happy that she is doing just fine. she is ebola-free right now. let's bring in cnn national

reporter nick valencia over at emory university hospital in atlanta. and also joining us, dr. seema yasmin. she's now a staff writer for "the dallas morning news." nick, set the scene for us. walk us through what we're about to see. >> reporter: we are expecting to hear from amber vinson, her first public comments since doctors said she is clear of the ebola virus. she landed here in atlanta at emory university hospital on october 15th having been transferred from her home hospital, texas presbyterian, they say because of a staffing issue. also there's a remarkable precedence set by emory university in their serious communicable disease unit. they have treated four patients for the ebola virus, all of them have been treated and released. i understand that amber vinson may be making her way to the podium. we'll send it back to you so you can update our viewers. >> she's sitting down right now with a nice, big smile.

you see the doctors there, the nurses there. the men and women who helped her recover from ebola. she's very happy. her grandparents, we're told, are there as well. so many of the nurses at emory university wanted to be there because she's a nurse, she's one of our own, they said. that's a pretty happy young lady right now. let's listen to vince dollar, the communications spokesman there at emory university hospital. he's going to introduce dr. bruce ridnor. >> director of emory university hospital's serious communicable disease unit. ms. amber vinson, our patient, and with ms. vinson are members of her family. her grandparents, mr. lawrence vinson sr., charlotte vinson, her uncle, lawrence vinson and her aunt, cheryl vinson. dr. ridner will make a statement.

amber will make a statement and will not take any questions. after amber's statement, we will do a brief q & a. and then depart. i would ask that you respect our patient's privacy and not shout any questions and allow amber and her family to depart in privacy. thank you. dr. ridner? >> good afternoon and thank you for coming today. as you've already heard, i am bruce ribner, medical director of the serious communicable diseases unit at emory university hospital. i lead the team of physicians, nurses, laboratory technolo technologists, chaplains and a host of other people who are so critically important in caring for our patients in our unit.

today, i'm pleased to announce that amber vinson is being discharged from emory university hospital. after a rigorous course of treatment and thorough testing, we have determined that ms. vinson has recovered from her infection with the ebola virus and that she can return to her family, to the community and to her life without any concerns about transmitting this virus to any other individuals. speaking on behalf of everyone at emory university hospital, we are pleased with ms. vinson's recovery and grateful for our opportunity to apply our training, care and experience in meeting her medical needs. as fellow members of the health care community, we deeply admire

ms. vinson's courage and dedication in caring for patients with serious communicable diseases. nurses are on the front lines 24 hours a day in treating our patients. and it is their skill, their knowledge and their passion for healing that makes one of the critical differences in caring for our patients. now that ebola virus transmission has occurred in the united states, we all recognize that there is a lot of anxiety in the community. and that is understandable. but the american health care system has been able to successfully treat patients with ebola virus disease. we have the resources. we have the expertise and we have the knowledge. we must not let fear get in the

way of our primary mission, which is caring for patients with serious diseases such as ebola virus infection. as grateful as we are for ms. vinson's recovery, we do recognize that our role as the american health care system and our nation's role is far from over. emory has taken the lead in posting our protocols online as well as participating in webinars, answering myriads of phone calls and e-mails in trying to spread knowledge of the management of this disease around the world. we continue to collaborate with the centers for disease control and prevention, with the national institutes of health, with the food and drug administration and the many professional organizations which

have been involved in fighting this terrible outbreak. we also like to acknowledge the many government officials at all levels, local, state and national who have assisted us from the time we started to care for our first patient with ebola virus disease. we also want to acknowledge and thank our colleagues at texas health presbyterian hospital. we have been privileged to care for one of the members of their team and we are delighted that ms. vinson will be rejoining her community soon. as mr. dollard said, i will be answering your questions in a moment. but before i do so, ms. vinson would like to make a statement. she will not be taking any questions. and we ask that you respect her wishes and save your questions for me. thank you.

>> thank you, dr. ribner. i'm so grateful to be well. and first and foremost, i want to thank god. i sincerely believe that with god all things are possible. while the skill and dedication of the doctors, nurses and others who have taken care of me have obviously led to my recovery, it has been god's love that has truly carried my family and me through this difficult time and has played such an important role in giving me hope and the strength to fight. i also want to take a moment to publicly thank my dear grandparents, my aunt and my uncle who have been visiting me here at emory, supporting me and

making sure i knew my family was there for me throughout my illness. and to my family who played such an important role in my recovery by being there every minute, every day even though you couldn't be close. mom and derek, i want to express my love and sincere thanks. while this is a day for celebration and gratitude, i ask that we not lose focus on the thousands of families who continue to labor under the burden of this disease in west africa. thank you to dr. kent brantly and nancy writebol, both of whom were successfully treated here at emory, for your donations of plasma for me and other patients. and thank you for your leadership in helping to educate the public about this difficult but treatable disease. i want to sincerely thank the

professionals who have contributed to my care here at emory health care and at texas health presbyterian dallas. as a nurse and now as someone who has experienced what it's like to be cared for through a life-threatening illness, i'm so appreciative and grateful for your exceptional skill, warmth and care. finally, my family and i would like to thank the many people whose prayers have helped sustain us. as we head back home to texas, we are grateful and we respectfully ask for the privacy my family and i need at this time. thank you. >> thank you, amber. at this time, we'll open it up for questions. for dr. ribner. yes, sir? >> dr. ribner, what have you

learned from the treatment of dr. brantly and nancy writebol to amber -- have you changed your protocol of how you treat, streamlined and things of that nature? >> the question is, what have we learned from now treating successfully four patients with ebola virus disease in a developed country? and the answer is, we've learned a great deal. simple things like fluid management, electrolyte management. again, our colleagues in west africa and also in central africa have treated a lot more patients with ebola virus disease than we have. but the advantage we have is the infrastructure to really study this disease in great detail. and we have been feeding that back to the -- our colleagues both in west africa as well as around the united states as many facilities plan for potentially caring for patients with ebola virus disease.

>> [ inaudible question ]. >> the question is, what is the role of quarantine in managing ebola virus disease? we recognize there's a lot of anxiety in the united states. and we think it's critically important, i think it's critically important that we reassure the american public that we are, in fact, taking measures to protect them from future exposure or infection with ebola virus disease. but i think the thing we really have to keep in mind is that the only way to we are truly going to be able to make our citizens safe is if we control the outbreak in africa, which is having a devastating impact on those countries. and so as we put in place various measures to try and protect citizens of this country, we have to be very

mindful of any unintended consequences which may make it more difficult to manage patients in the african continent. every state is going to have to do that very difficult balancing act with guidance from the centers for disease control and prevention and from professional societies. emory has membership on the governor's task force attempting to assist the state in making that balance for the state of georgia. >> dr. ribner, a couple of questions, first, congratulations on triumphing over ebola four times now. you talked a little bit about what you've learned. you've had patients with various levels of severity. i was wondering if you could say what you've learned about that? secondly, ms. vinson was declared virus-free several days ago.

could you talk about what has been going on since then, why she was not discharged earlier? >> okay. so again the question is, what have we learned from caring for patients with multiple levels of illness associated with ebola virus disease? and, again, we have learned as we had anticipated for those of you who were with us back in early august when we started this adventure together, that indeed our hypotheses were correct, that the aggressive sort of care that we have learned from treating many critically ill patients at emory university hospital is directly applicable to patients with ebola virus disease. the other thing that we have really changed the mindset on is how aggressive we can be with patients with ebola virus disease. i would have to tell you that the general dogma in our industry in july was that if patients got so ill that they

required dialysis or ventilator support, there was no purpose in doing those interventions because they would invariably die. i think we have shown our colleagues in the u.s. and elsewhere that that is certainly not the case. and therefore, i think we have changed the algorithm for how aggressive we are going to be willing to be in caring for patients with ebola virus disease. the second part of the question in terms of ms. vinson's health care over the last week, i obviously cannot release because of patient confidentiality issues. >> have you been able in the course of your treatment to identify how she became exposed in the first place? >> we are not aware of the specific details of what occurred in the dallas facility or how transmission occurred in that environment. >> can you attribute her

relative speedy recovery to any one or two techniques that you used, because her recovery has been much faster than some of the previous patients? >> the question is, why did our patient recover so quickly? a parallel question, which you probably all have noticed, is that her colleague also recovered very quickly. the honest answer is, we're not exactly sure. we have a couple of hypotheses. number one, they are two of the youngest patients who have been treated in developed countries for ebola virus disease. and, again, we know from a lot of data coming out of africa that younger patients do much better than patients who are older. the other hypothesis that we have is that she was wearing personal protective equipment during the care of her patient in dallas. and therefore, it is quite likely that the amount of virus that she was exposed to was substantially less than what we

see in patients who get infected in less-developed countries. and we also know that the higher the viral load that you get infected with, the more severe your disease is likely to be. >> we're going to take a couple of questions from a call-in line now. can we get those questions now? >> thank you for your time. i would just like to commend the response from emory. overall, what did the methods that you would like to get over to the public about some of the fear that really gripped us? >> so the question for those of you who may not have heard it is, what message would we like to get out to the public in terms of the anxiety and fear which is very present in the

united states? and i think the message we would like to get across is that, again, this is a new virus for the american shores. this is a virus, however, which is well-known, unfortunately, in africa where they have had 40 years of experience in dealing with it. we know the modes of transmission. this is not a virus which is very easy to acquire through casual contact or through the air. it requires exposure to blood and body fluids and close exposure. and, again, as we look at measures in the united states to potentially control additional exposures that might occur, we need to keep the science in mind as we deal with other measures. >> one more question from the phone line. >> there he is, dr. bruce ribner of emory university hospital answering reporters' questions. a very happy day over there in atlanta, georgia. the ebola survivor, amber

vinson, a nurse from dallas, texas, she is now out of the hospital. she was smiling. she gave a very emotional, beautiful statement with members of her family, including her grandparents there. dr. ribner surrounded by other physicians. lots of nurses, fellow nurses who were extremely happy at this relatively speedy recovery. there she is, amber vinson, our own chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is on the phone. sanjay, you know emory university hospital well. i assume you know dr. ribner as well. what i learned -- he seemed to be indicating, sanjay, a new detail for me. i don't know if it's new for you. that aggressive treatment, including dialysis, ventilation, lung ventilation, if you will, that that could really make a huge difference in these patients. >> reporter: a very important point, wolf. i picked up on that same thing. you'll remember, wolf, not that long ago, dr. frieden sort of raised the concern that should

patients who are sick with ebola have some of these aggressive procedures done at all. he was sort of wondering if they would work and might they put the health care providers who perform these procedures at too high a risk of being infected? and dr. ribner, again, i heard the same thing you did. he sort of said not only does it seem to work but obviously they have not had any issues with what are known as secondary infections, with health care providers getting infected. so i think it's very important. obviously they don't have a lot of those resources in central and west africa. and when you hear the mortality rates being seven out of ten or even up to nine out of ten, that could be one of the big differences as to why mortality is so much lower here in the united states. eight out of nine patients that have been treated in the united states have all survived. >> and they all sir vooifd urvi

three hospitals, emory, n.i.h. and the university of nebraska hospital in omaha. there's a patient at bellevue hospital in new york. the question has been raised, why not move him to one of these other facilities? >> the answer comes back -- it really shouldn't make a big difference. dallas notwithstanding -- i think obviously lrp a lot of lessons learned in dallas. but dallas notwithstanding, any big hospital that has the ability to isolate a patient, which most of the hospitals can, should be able to take care of a patient with ebola. it does require an isolation area. it does require an inordinate amount of manpower, of nurses and doctors to take care of the patients. if you have those things, you should be able to do it.

there's no magic wand or magic motion from the n.i.h. hospitals offer. that's not it. it's more a question of the training and being able to implement what is already well known. >> we're seeing a very nice, lovely picture, amber vinson, the dallas nurse, cured of ebola, she is giving all of those fellow nurses, physicians, a big hug. they're clearly not afraid to give her a hug after she suffered from ebola. you can see how happy all of them are. i want to bring seema in after the break. should any of these nurses or doctors be concerned about hugging this former ebola patient? >> absolutely not. they are doing the right thing by embracing her, hugging her and welcoming her back. she's had more than one test that's been negative for ebola. it's really important, wolf, that we do not let fear get in the way of empathy and compassion. she's a brave young woman who's fought the virus.

she should not now have to fight any stigma. >> it was a nice scene when nina pham, the other day, the other dallas nurse released from the n.i.h. hospital in bethesda, maryland, was invited over to see president obama at the white house. he gave her a big hug as well. there she is, amber vinson, the 29-year-old nurse from dallas, texas, being escorted by emory university physicians, giving her a nice round of applause. a very courageous, wonderful woman who unfortunately contracted ebola from thomas eric duncan, the liberian who unfortunately died in dallas, texas. but she and nina pham, the two nurses who dealt with him, contracted ebola, they are now ebola-free. let's take a quick break. much more of the special coverage we're doing right now right after this. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 [ male announcer ] your love for trading never stops, tdd# 1-800-345-2550 even on the go. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 open a schwab account, and you could earn tdd# 1-800-345-2550 300 commission-free online trades. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 so if you get a trade idea, schwab can help you take it on. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 we're getting a lot of questions

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the ordeal of a 5-year-old little boy being tested for ebola is almost over. he was being checked at a new york city hospital after returning from west africa. poppy harlow is over at bellevue hospital in new york city. she's standing by as is dr. seema yasmin, in dallas watching what's going on. i want to get to that little boy in a moment, poppy. but, seema, let's talk about what we just saw, a very emotional, heart-warming development. the dallas nurse, amber vinson, released from emory university hospital. she's ebola-free. the other day, nina pham, the other dallas nurse, released from n.i.h. hospital in bethesda, maryland, ebola-free. these are real success stories, aren't they? >> they absolutely are. it's the kind of good news we've been waiting for with the tragic story that's still unfolding in west africa. we heard dr. ribner at emory say one of the reasons that nurse amber vinson and nurse nina pham

recovered so quickly is because they're young and healthy to begin with. perhaps people who are older or who already have other illnesses may not beat ebola as quickly. >> and he said fluid and electrolyte management, explain what that means. >> electrolytes are really important for us to have a good balance of those. and ebola messes that up because there's such severe diarrhea and vomiting. the electrolyte balance in our bodies goes haywire. so dr. ribner made sure levels like sodium and potassium, making sure they stay well-balanced is important. >> and he even mentioned dialysis in someone who is very well -- thomas eric duncan was going through dialysis, it didn't help him. >> that wasn't surprising. health care workers want to provide the best level of care

that they can. if they see that a patient is struggling with breathing, they want to put them on a ventilator. if a person's kidney function isn't very good, they want to put them on dialysis. that can be really important with patients with ebola to give them that kind of supportive medical care. >> poppy, let's talk about the little 5-year-old boy just back from west africa. they suspected maybe he had ebola. but all the tests show he does not have ebola. but he's still in the hospital. what's the latest? >> reporter: it's good news to report to you, wolf. we're just learning from bellevue hospital that this little 5-year-old boy who had spent a month in guinea with his family was rushed here late on sunday night with a 102-degree fever. he does not have ebola. he has cleared all of the tests. it was a respiratory illness that caused that fever. he's here because he's very sick and is still being treated. but no ebola. and that is wonderful news to report. this coming as the cdc has issued much tougher guidelines

trying to protect americans from the ebola virus. the cdc has come out with new guidelines, it says, to help protect america from the spread of ebola. the change is coming as nurse kaci hickox who tested negative for ebola is released from her quarantine. new jersey officials were allowed to isolate her for three days after treating patients in west africa. >> the aid worker presented no symptoms, does not present a danger to the society. >> reporter: under the new guidelines, the cdc outlines four main risk levels -- high risk for those with direct exposure to infected fluids of an ebola patient, some risk for those living with or within three feet of a patient without wearing protective gear. the third is a low but nonzero risk meaning anyone traveling from a country with widespread ebola. the fourth category includes

people with no identified risk but could have had exposure to a person with ebola before the person was showing symptoms or who traveled to west africa more than 21 days ago. the cdc believes the changes will better determine when individuals should be routed to care. health officials are holding a 5-year-old boy for additional testing after an official test for ebola came back negative. he is being monitored at bellevue hospital in new york city where new york dr. craig spencer who contracted the virus in guinea is being treated. >> we did the cautious thing and brought the child in under the full protocol. >> reporter: icu patients were transferred to nyu langone medical center. new york city mayor bill de blasio held a press conference here, highly praising the first responders, the doctors and nurses here who have been taking

care of dr. craig spencer. we know at this hour he remains in serious but stable condition. as soon as we get an update on the 33-year-old doctor, we'll bring it to you here live on cnn. >> let's hope he makes a full recovery as well. poppy, thanks very much. seema yasmin, thanks to you as well. coming up, a different story we're following. kurdish fighters leaving their post in northern iraq to join the battle for kobani. we'll talk about why this is significant.

welcome back. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. we once again want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. isis has released a new

propaganda video, the militant terror group uses the british hostage john cantlie to talk about the battle for the city of kobani. kobani is a key city on the syrian-turkish border that has been a strike point between kurdish fighters and isis militants. it's also the city expecting the arrival of more kurdish peshmerga troops. nick paton walsh is there for us. >> reporter: after a week of bickering about how many peshmerga will come, we've seen media pictures showing this substantial convoy of hardware pulling out of erbil and moving towards the turkish border. if they go at a reasonable pace, they just might make it to the border at kobani about dawn tomorrow. that will be a very volatile time for them.

isis has had plenty of opportunity to prepare for their crossing. this is surprisingly public, frankly, this mission. some of the peshmerga may fly in separately and perhaps join up with that convoy before they try and move in. but while this is a symbolic moment, certainly the kurds uniting in iraq and syria to fight together against isis with turkey assisting them, too, it's going to have a real practical effect on the battlefield as well. this is a lot of hardware. peshmerga are battle-hardened. they will be resupplying the kurdish forces in there. we know kurds inside the city are fighting to clear the area behind the official crossing into kobani on the turkish-syrian border. we'll have to see how bad or how easy things are for those peshmerga tomorrow. but clearly the fight for kobani still ongoing. wolf? >> nick paton walsh on the border between turkey and syria. last year, get this, 30 young people from one danish city traveled to syria to fight. this year, that number fell to

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isis has been aggressively using social media and other methods to recruit westerners to its cause. and it has been working. hundreds have joined, including a few americans. but the problem is a lot worse in western europe. in denmark, for example, some 200 have left to join the isis fight in syria. cnn's atika shubert explains how that country is dealing with cleary a growing problem. >> reporter: why have hundreds of jihadi fighters across western europe gone to the battlefields of syria and iraq and how do authorities keep them from lashing out violently once they're home? the answers might be found in

denmark. it may not look like a hotbed of jihadi radicalism, but more than a third come from this suburb. this suburb is just outside of a city where 80% of the people living here are immigrants. it's been described as a sort of ghetto. here danish authorities have set up a deradicalization program with the help of the larger mosque and its chairman. interestingly, the mosque refuses to condemn or openly support isis. the islamic state in syria and iraq. but he does meet with danish police every month to both discourage young muslims from fighting in syria and to counsel them on their return. the only and the most important thing that we want to see is that they don't consider us as criminals, he tells us. they don't consider us as

terrorists and they recognize us as a minority living in denmark, he says. he introduces us to omar, not his real name. he was once an engineering student before he became a fighter in syria. >> nobody's going or leaving their country because of someone has brainwashed them. they go because -- to defend the oppressed people in syria and help them by any means. it's a good deed according to the koran. >> reporter: but infighting among jihadist groups drove omar home to denmark. and he isn't the only one to return home disillusioned. >> they see things they didn't expect to see. brutality, violence, evilness and also corruption from the guys they thought were their allies.

in fact, some of them are deradicalized. >> reporter: just by the process of going there? >> yeah, some of them. >> reporter: disillusioned, traumatized, perhaps. but will denmark's experiment on deradicalization win the hearts and minds of muslim youth? yes and no. omar insists that he still wants to travel to syria even though he considers denmark his home. >> with regard to the youth who left from this city, i knew them as very intelligent people who finished high school, were starting the universities and had a good degree. so i don't believe that they were isolated from society at all. >> reporter: according to police, the numbers traveling from this city to syria have dropped from 30 in 2013 to just one in 2014.

an encouraging start for the city's hod l of deradicalization. >> atika shubert reporting for us from denmark. coming up, chris christie digs in on ebola quarantines, comes under fire from both sides. we'll talk about the latest controversy, what it means for the new jersey governor. plus, a south carolina candidate's major slip of the tongue and it has a lot of people talking, a lot of people pretty upset. stay with us. [ female announcer ] if you don't think "i've still got it" when you think aarp, then you don't know "aarp."

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. . . . the new jersey governor chris christie no stranger to controversy as all of our viewers, know. this time, though, he's under fire for a policy quarantining health care workers returning from the ebola hot zones. the nurse back in maine says her basic rights were violated when she was confined against her will in newark, new jersey. christie says his policy is just common sense. >> she sent back to maine because she no longer had a fever or any symptoms.

or was she sent back to maine because she went out and hired a talented lawyer like norm seagal and was threatening legal action against the state? >> well, you used the word talented, matt, not me. and secondly, no, nothing to do with it. that's been the policy all along. if she'd never presented with symptoms, our policy would have been to send her back to maine and to ask her to quarantine at home in maine. >> all right. here's how the white house press secretary josh ernest responded to a question about all of this a few minutes ago. >> josh, chris christie said this morning about the cdc, they don't want to admit it that we're right and they were wrong. i'm sorry about that. there seems to be disagreements of how things are playing out. i'm just wondering -- >> there wasn't a disagreement about nurse hickox to be released. she was released from the guidance.

and she is making her way, presumably has arrived in her home in maine. again, consistent with the guidelines that are articulated by the cdc. >> let's bring in hour chief political analyst gloria borger. chris christie is not immune, of course, very familiar with controversy. but he says he's not backing away from his position at all. >> he's sticking to it. don't forget, he's a potential 2016 presidential candidate who is the truth telling, no nonsense, common sense guy that says, you know what, she was inconvenienced a little bit. she showed a little bit of a temperature, so that's a little bit of a symptom. and i want to protect the state of new jersey and if it inconveniences her, i'm sorry, but i have to do it. and i'm not going to change my mind on it. >> not the first time chris christie has been criticized by the left or from the right. he's getting criticism from fellow republicans. >> well, you know, wolf, if it's late october, chris christie's in the news right before an

election and controversy. >> they think he caved to the white house, if you will. >> look, i think what happened was, frankly, we saw one doctor who had ebola who didn't do a good job of the quarantine. and the two governors at that point didn't have national guidance from the cdc took matters into their own hands. now, if that nurse developed symptoms, none of us would be thinking it was an overreaction. two things happened. one, she wasn't symptomatic. two, the pr was terrible. she looked like a caged animal in that tent. >> yeah. >> that makes a leader look incompetent. and what he does not want to project is any kind of incompetence because that's the wrap on president obama and the democrats aligned with president obama as we head into the midterm elections. so he's -- he's not going to sway at all. i mean, part of his brand, part of who he is and part of what he wants to project. >> last thing he wants to do is

something that the white house wants him to do. not even democrats want to do anything the democrats want -- >> chris christie thinking about his political future. you're from florida, jeb bush, the former florida governor. he's thinking about his political future. and all of a sudden, some members of his family are say g saying, he may be a republican presidential candidate, what are you hearing? >> what am i hearing? let's see, look jeb bush is seriously considering this. he is, i think, in the midst of deliberations. he has set a time line for himself. he's going to make a decision by the end of the year. doesn't mean he would announce by the end of the year if he decides to do it. i think he's looking at the pros and cons. he knows what it takes more than anybody. and i think he's seriously considering. he knows it's a weighty issue. it's a difficult decision. it's a life-changing decision. if you win, your reward is, it changes your life for the rest of your days. i think he's taking it seriously. >> i spoke with somebody who is close to jeb bush yesterday. and i was told that, quote, wanting to do this and doing it

are two different things. i believe that jeb bush probably wants to be president of the united states. the question is, does he -- thinks he could serve well. but does he want to go through what you have to go through, which by the way, he knows as well as anybody having had two members of his family who went through it. does he want to go through all of that? at this point in his life? i think that's a decision he probably has to make. >> i was with him on sunday morning and said to him, you know, george p. just said -- >> george p., his son and had given an interview said you're more likely than not to run for 2016. and his reaction was, really? did he really? why is it that everybody feels compelled to opine about what i'm thinking. >> right? >> let me apologize to jeb right now in case he's watching for opining on what he's thinking. >> members of his family, which he's worried about. his mother felt one way, didn't want him to run, his father

wants him to run, his brothers want him torun, his son clearly might like to see him -- >> i am not his family. i'm his friend. i've known him for a long time. i'm torn about it. because what if somebody you love, if a friend comes and tells you they want to run for president, who wants to do that these days. it's saying to me, look, i'm going to go mud wrestle for a year and a half. and if i win, i'm going to mud wrestle for another. >> i want to play this clip. this is the democratic candidate for governor of south carolina challenging nikki haley, the incumbent republican. he said this, let me play the clip. >> that is the worst kind of politics! and we are going to escort her out the door. we're going to escort her out the door. think about it, y'all. all right. calm down out there.

>> he said "whore." and that's getting a lot of -- >> i'm going to call him fool, jerk and every single woman and every single democrat who goes out and bangs the drums on war on women, all those brigades from the democrat side calling on this man to apologize and really condemning these things he said. it's not the gaffe, supposed gaffe he made, it's that cackling. >> right. >> it was playing along with the crowd. and, you know, our peter hamby spoke to ann romney about it. it's one thing to make the mistake, correct it, but he was playing into that crowd. he should have never, ever, ever have done that. and he can't apologize enough for it as far as i'm concerned. >> i'm with you on that. >> gloria, ana, guys, thanks very much. he obviously made a major blunder. not that he had much of a chance, i think, getting himself elected. a pretty serious blunder there in handling this affair. thanks very much. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern

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all right. here we go. top of the hour. great to be with you. i'm brooke baldwin. the president of the united states will be speaking in about an hour from now. we have learned on the ebola situation. as it stands this afternoon, all of this, amber vincent, here she is minutes ago, ebola free. has been released from emory university hospital in atlanta speaking a time short time ago. here she was. >> i'm so grateful to be well. and first and foremost, i want to thank god. i sincerely believe that with god, all things are possible.