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in an abandoned air strip in an area in the pocono mountains between henriville and tannersville. apparently he was captured without one shot being fired. this is a very wooded area. that is how it is described to me, where he was found. by a team involving the -- including the u.s. marshal service as well as the pennsylvania state troopers. now, again, this is an area that is a very wooded area. at some distance from where he originally was involved in that shooting, killing one trooper and injuring another. and as you know this has been an extensive manhunt, using hundreds and hundreds of troopers looking for him. and they even went so far as to cancel halloween. people were so frightened that he remained on the loose. so anderson, a huge sigh of relief at this hour. >> now, do we know what kind of weapons he still had on him? because one of his weapons was found weeks ago. >> that is right.

the word that our justice correspondent pamela brown, was that he was armed at the time and they recovered at least one weapon. now, it is not clear if that was the weapon they found, the one he was armed with. or if that was another one. unconfirmed that weapons, plural, were seized. we're still looking into that, anderson. >> and are they saying what is next for him? >> the idea is he will be taken back, according to my sources, to the blooming grove police barracks, when the first shooting happened, october 12th. and then mug shots, a statement if he gives a statement. we'll have to see what happens next, and then of course he will give a court appearance. >> and a press conference if that happens, we'll bring it to you. justice correspondent evan perez joins us, so evan, it is

incredible he was able to evade capture for some 48 days. do we know how much he did that, how often he was on the move? i assume he was at this isolated air trstrip? >> that is right, anderson, according to multiple sources he was preparing for this for sometime. he is an excellent marksman, and that was one reason he could shoot for a long distance. and the officers were careful, not doing searches late at night. he also found indications that he had dug burrows so he could evade the night vision, in case they flew over. so he was prepared to hide out. the fear was this was going to take months and months. >> right, this wouldn't just be night vision equipment. they also had heat cameras that can tell body heat in the forest. so the idea of digging something

underground would nullify that. so will he face state or federal charges? >> well, the plan would be state charges, because obviously this is a pennsylvania state officer he killed and wounded another. the federal government -- the fbi put him on this fbi most-wanted list. so there are federal charges that could be brought against him. the death penalty is very likely. pennsylvania has the death penalty. and the federal death penalty could also apply in case those charges are brought. >> all right, evan, i appreciate the update. thank you. as the manhunt was going on we got a look at eric frein from a documentary that he took part in, following a group of war activists. right now, let's take a look at a clip from the documentary where you actually hear eric frein speaking. >> it is a very laid-back event. not that you know -- the guy

throughout did do a lot of planning for it. but i would -- if it was up to me i would stress it is not a reenactment. it is a living history. not about reenacting battles or anything. it is about teaching the public and showing the equipment that was used, talking about the history of it all. we have nine, i was in charge of them. we had to find them. we just walked around for two days straight. we never did find them. they found us a few times. i had one of these rifles, i fired like 15 rounds total, the whole time, the whole two days. that was it. i mean, they had like 60 pounds worth of equipment on their back. food, water. >> they never took it off? >> they never took it off. he couldn't smoke -- every time he tried to smoke, one of my patrols would come close. they would have to stop and just stay real still. in experiencing what he did, you just get an idea. >> he is very proud of his abilities, obviously, there in

the forest reenacting combat. joining me now, cnn analyst, and former director tom fuentes, and former scout of the survival school. tom, what do you make of the fact he was able to stay out there so long? is it a testament to his abilities or also the danger for searchers in trying to find a guy like this who is prepared, perhaps, for weeks or months for something like that and could easily attack, shoot people, trying to hunt for him? >> actually, that is true. both things are true, anderson, starting with your second point. you know, he would have been able to shoot additional police officers from hundreds of yards away without them being able to see them, with them using cover of the forest. places where they crossed a road or were gathering to discuss their search patterns in a wide open area. so he easily could have killed many, many more police officers after the initial killing that he did.

so that is one thing that made the search more difficult, to go more slowly to try to be more cautious in their approach to this in very dense woods. i think from the beginning, he pro-positioned supplies and canned food and things like that. water, he would have been able to survive like he did for this amount of time. but at a certain point if he needs to live off the land and cook an animal he needs to make fire and that could be detected by the infrared sensors. if he has the little underground caves he dug for himself, yes, that will evade the infrared sensors and give him warmth. but it will not be adequate shelter in the long run when it starts to become winter, with sub-zero weather approaching. so the days of him being able to live off the land were becoming increasingly difficult. and like the eric rudolph case,

years ago, he was caught when he came into town looking through a dumpster looking for food. >> right, and he increasingly stole food over the course of the year. and i'm just getting image for the first time, showing it to you, obtained by wbre, affiliate, appears to be eric frein in the back of a law enforcement vehicle being taken where it looks like he has some sort of an injury to his nose. as we're looking at this, we're trying to zoom in on it if we're able to. shane, how difficult is it to survive for this length of time without pre-positioning supplies? >> well, you know, tom brings up a point. tree-positioning clearly was his plan. it is a big indication of how much he is lacking in the primitive skill set. in the bush craft skill set. clearly, the more primitive skills you practice, the less

need to go into some of these areas and get some of that resource. and don't forget, our ancestors, in the museum of natural history, we had examples of these shelters in which you can stay very warm without a fire in the coldest of temperatures. even those types of shelters can shroud you from those infrared cameras. this is an example of how much he knows or doesn't know, clearly an indication that was his umbilical cord. and just like tom said, eric robert rudolph of the '96 summer games, he was caught dumpster diving. he was running out of resources, and desperate, during those desperate times we know what happens here. we make those mistakes. >> so shane, even if he was not able to use fire and as tom was pointing out, they have infrared cameras in planes or helicopters searching for him, he wouldn't

be able to. you're saying you can avoid infrared, even by making a shelter out of what? leaves and mud and dirt and things? >> that is true. yes, you know, using the forest debris in the urban environment, our insulation comes from a rolled up newspaper, this is what we've learned. out there in the bush, the same thing applies with the debris. when you look at the debris hut, a classic first level shelter this hut is effective 90% of the time and in 90% of the places on the planet. and the cold weather version of this idea is the igloo. you can stay very warm inside of a very cold dome. so yes, it is very capable of staying warm in the landscape. >> and again, we're zooming in on this picture, this is the first image that we have been getting, believed to be eric frein. i mean, tom, it is hard to tell what kind of shape he is in. it looks like an injury or blood or cut on the nose. that looks you know, i guess it

is hard to read into a picture of a face shot. but he doesn't look too much the worse for wear, particularly dirty like he has been living in mud for weeks at a time. >> no, he doesn't, we can't tell from that picture what kind of shape he is in. obviously, i would like to clarify one thing. the fbi, the fbi most-wanted list is to assist in state and local, also. the value of that is worldwide advertising and a $100,000 reward to whoever provides information leading to the capture of the suspect. so in this particular case, the fact it is an fbi reward doesn't make it an fbi case. it is still the state of pennsylvania case. however, my understanding in talking to people tonight is it is the u.s. marshals that deserve the credit for actually making the find and capturing him. >> and tom, for a guy who is by all accounts very skilled with firearm, you know, killed a

state trooper from a great distance and apparently had multiple weaponry on him. we don't know the exact details, one of his guns was an ak-47 already found, the fact he was captured without incident, it will be fascinating to know how they got him in the final moments. >> i would be more interested in why he didn't kill again. that he went into a completely evasive mode for these last six weeks. he could have easily killed dozens of officers and run around those woods for a long time. and had he had the tactical advantage with a scope, sniper or rifle and cover all over the place, cover and concealment and the officers had to be exposed in conducting the search, i think it is a miracle in this case that we don't have more dead police officers. and it is a testament to the marshals and their agents that they captured him alive and

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type of big shootout. and the fact that this was done without incident. and by the way, he was caught with at least two weapons. one was a rifle, and one was a pistol. so he had something with him that he could have fired if -- if he was challenged and it appears that these officers were able to catch him by surprise and put him under arrest. >> and originally, he also had an ak-47 if my memory serves me correct. that had been found weeks earlier in the search. >> right, that was found weeks, and there were other signs, there were soiled diapers, they found reading material he had left behind. he had left signs of where he was hiding out. and this area where he was found was an area that has been combed over by the u.s. marshals, by the fbi, by the atf and the pennsylvania state police. so they have been all over this area. he was moving quite frequently according to law enforcement officials. so that is one reason he was able to stay a step ahead of

them. >> i'm going to leave the details on the soiled diapers, i'm not going to quiz you on that one. evan, thank you for the update, we'll have more on this in the next hour. and the manhunt, seemed like it wouldn't end for a long time. of course, the case of eric rudolph comes to mind. during that time, we learned in detail about who eric frein was. >> pennsylvania police commissioner frank noonan describes him as a man with a mean streak, a love for guns and hatred for law enforcement. >> his hair is shaved closely on the sides, wider than a mohawk, he was last seen with no facial hair and was wearing a brown windbreaker, khaki shorts. >> they also determined frein belongs to a military simulation group known as a gun team. this particular group reenacted

the role of eastern european soldiers during the cold war and simulated combat. >> in his frame of mind, frein now appears to have simulated the role in life. >> investigators said he was socially withdrawn and had made angry statements to people he knew about the police. >> the suspect lived here with his parents, the suspect's father telling investigators that two weapons are missing from the house. an ak-47 and a rifle. >> investigators found a book in frein's bedroom titled sniper training and employment. his father, an army veteran told police he trained his son to shoot and that he does not miss. these pictures from frein's high school yearbook from his senior year show him on the school's rifle team. his quote, i feel that we could have done a lot better in matches this year if it was not for the fact in anticipation for the rifle team being cancelled. frein's love of guns and the military continued into adulthood. he is well known for walking

around the small community of can canadesis in full military gear. elaine says she has known the family for ten years. >> i was devastated. and it didn't surprise me, i guess. >> why didn't it surprise you? >> i guess because my children are so outgoing. you know what i mean? when my kids meet you, hello, how are you? they shake your hand, they're very outgoing. this young man was not. and i do think that -- but the mother is very sweet. i don't know the father. >> when you say he was not outgoing, was he withdrawn -- >> i think he was very quiet and he did not speak when he came in. >> jason carroll, cnn, blooming grove, pennsylvania. fascinating stuff. u.s. marshals caught up to eric frein in a part of pennsylvania

that even most people there may be hard pressed to find on a map, surrounding it, hundreds of thousands of acres in which to hide and keep from being kept from authorities. if you're just joining us, that is the first picture, we believe of eric frein, after being apprehended an injury to his nose. more on surviving on the run. we're joined on the phone by a former navy s.e.a.l. also with us, former analyst and fbi director tom fuente. and also, the founder of the mountain survival school. it is really interesting to me, i don't think a lot of people realize this. because of the danger of law enforcement personnel in searching for this guy they were really only doing daylight searches, right? >> yeah, that is what i understand. and look, let's face it. if this guy knows that area and six weeks ago the average temperature was 65 degrees, plenty of food and water, yeah, of course, bunker down during

the day and move at night. and that doesn't surprise me. the difference is, in the last six weeks, temperatures dropped about 35 degrees. dropping below zero at night. and that is going to wear on you. and that is probably why this guy started to seek shelter. the other thing is the picture you're showing. i'm seeing a guy with a relatively clean face, fairly clean shaven, which leads me to believe this guy probably was not roughing it that much more. >> that was my point early on. when i talked to tom fuentes, just from his face it doesn't look like he was living in bangk bunker or covering himself with mud at night. and this is a slightly different angle. he looks pretty cleaned up. >> yeah, i expected to see this guy looking like a taliban fighter. not like a guy who is more clean-cut. >> shane, what do you make of

these pictures, also the point that his chances are trying to seek a concrete structure, like this abandoned air field, really just to get out of the elements as much as he can because the temperature is getting colder. >> clearly, i perfectly agree with cade. the temperature has dropped. he has been seen skirting along the suburban areas before, and like spokes on a wheel he will go to various camps but is making his way out. clearly it has been swept before, by the police or marshals, so he is staying, skipping through this suburban environment in the woods. if you google map this and scan back you will see how many thousands of acreage actually surround these suburban areas so it is very easy for him to come in and out. again, it is a proof positive, his battle skills are not up to par where it is absolutely

necessary for him to be coming in and out of these areas. >> cade, if he was really good like a navy s.e.a.l. out in the forest environment, could he be in -- you know, on an acre that is being swept over by law enforcement? and still be missed? >> yeah, he could. but i tell you what, i agree with shane. we will find out and i think we'll find out fairly quickly, this is a guy who wants first blood numerous times. he has been thinking about this, the game is over, i think we'll find out he is not nearly as good as he thinks maybe he is. >> he has no actual military experience, basically was playing war -- >> he fights with air rifles. if he was really that good he would have joined up. >> i think that is a good point. i'm understanding susan candiotti has gotten information how he was apprehended.

what have you learned, susan? >> hi, anderson, i'm learning that during the process of taken into custody he was taken down into the ground, put down there, so he couldn't hurt anybody when they took him into custody. again, no shots were fired. the way they found him, i'm told, they were in the process, the u.s. marshal's special ops team was in the process of clearing the area. that also included intel that they had and some eyewitness accounts and clearing one of the many areas they were in the process of doing in the poconos in the area, to try to look to see if they could find him. and this time they did. >> susan, do you know, and if you don't that is fine. but do you know approximately how far the place he was actually found is from where the shooting took place? >> yeah, not precisely. i think it is some distance, however, from there. that is what i was hearing. and i also heard just like my colleague, evan perez did, that two weapons were recovered where

he was hiding. >> tom fuentes, something like an abandoned air field, i would imagine that had been searched before. and it was mentioned that he had had been, and maybe he doubled back to that area. because that would seem an obvious place to look? >> yeah, that is the problem, you clear an area, and he could be moving back to an area you just cleared. so you have to constantly be going to the areas previously that you searched. and there would be many abandoned buildings and homes that people might have had on vacation. and he might have had access to somebody's home or vacation home that is in the woods that he could go into and have running water and be able to shave and keep up his appearance like this. so yes, i was very surprised to see him as clean-shaven and his hair combed and in pretty good shape that way. you know, pretty well groomed. you wouldn't think so if you're surviving in the woods.

but we don't know how long he has been inside, what kind of facility he has been in and how many of those facilities over the last few weeks. >> and tom raises a point. if you're only searching during the day and you have cleared an area say of a couple of -- i don't know, a couple of years or so and then you pull out and leave it is not like you're camping out there. for law enforcement camping out there for security reasons. they could perhaps be targeted easily at night. then how do you guarantee somebody doesn't just come back into the area you just cleared? >> well, you don't, i do not want to sound like i'm being negative against law enforcement. they lost a guy, another one was shot at. and a cop killer, they were looking for him. that said, once you cover ground and then you step away you have to cover it again to make sure they haven't come back here. this guy maybe was hiding in the woods during the day and then at night he went back and shaved and took a shower. we'll find this out. but you know, this is the best

possible ending to this. you got him, no shots fired. happy halloween, folks in pennsylvania. >> they're able to now have halloween. and shane, that is a real sign of just how seriously people were taken this and not just for law enforcement but just citizens out there. in fact, they're cancelling halloween. this guy could have popped up anywhere really at any time, took shots at people whether they are law enforcement searching for him. or people trick-or-treating and faded back into the wilderness. >> absolutely, talk about timing. you're talking about the time where everybody -- it's socially acceptable to wear costumes out there. so good job, law enforcement, i'm happy that pennsylvania does get to celebrate halloween. and you know, this is a job well done. >> shane and kate and tom, susan candiotti. and as we mentioned, eric frein appeared in a document about a reenactment of the war. we'll talk about that. here is a clip.

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fantasi . welcome back, we're continuing to learn more every minute about the capture of fbi's most wanted eric frein. susan candiotti reporting the killing of a state trooper here in a new photo. he was spotted just as the searchers were clearing an old air field. as we mentioned at the top of the broadcast, frein belonged to an off-beat group of war reenactors. the uniforms they dress up in date back to the cold war and vietnam war. many represent america's old warsaw pact uniforms and weapons that frein took with him into the woods, apparently taking them from his parents' house. and two gained access to even speaking to eric frein for their

documentary, vietnam appreciation day. here is another clip. >> my name is eric frein, and this is the vietnam remembrance day. and what we have is a display of the united states army fighting method of the time period. and you know, it is an enormous day for the veterans. and we commemorate them for what they did. and a lot of spectators came and went, we didn't get finished unpacking, maybe tomorrow more people will be here on sunday. and we can educate them a little bit about what the united states fighting men did in southeast asia between 1965 and 1975. >> how did you feel having been to a few of these, that the reenactment went today? can you give us a commentary on

that? >> the reenactment we saw today was -- it's hard to call it really a reenactment. bunch of guys went out and popped off a bunch of blanks. anyway, it is a remembrance day, to commemorate the veterans, not really play army, to basically enact a fantasy that you really don't do anything with the public as far as teaching them anything. it's not vietnam, we're in the middle of pennsylvania, where the revolutionary war -- it's not a place to reenact the battle. it is just my personal opinion, though, so otherwise the reenactment, you have to ask the spectators and see what they thought. i've been doing this for eight years, i'm a little bit more biassed. >> that is eric frein.

the filmmaker joins us by phone. patrick, it is interesting talking to him. there is an arrogance, sort of looking down at the quality of other war reenactors as if he is somehow the number one war reenactor and has higher standards than anybody else. >> definitely. i think eric really related to the actual soldier. where a lot of reenactors couldn't become soldiers and they're more of living historians. eric related to soldiers who had come back from wars and maybe gotten a raw deal. and i think this is why you see he is bent against law enforcement and government. he really identifies with soldiers that got a raw deal. and he had something to prove. and you definitely hear that in that clip. >> which is strange, because i mean, he doesn't have a military background himself.

he is essentially playing dress-up and going around shooting blanks, which is happening during this war reenactment. which he was critical of the other people he worked with for doing when in fact that is exactly what he is doing. it is not as if he himself is a veteran. >> no, definitely. what eric did in these war reenactments, in private, was he did tacticals and he went into the woods and simulated battle. at this particular event he refused to reenact the war for veterans because he knew that it could possibly be traumatic for them. he was much more sensitive than your average reenactor, in regard to flashbacks and just giving the veterans a good experience. and that is what you're hearing there. he didn't want to reenact the war in a public place. >> what did he seem like to you? i mean, how did he strike you?

>> he definitely struck me as an oddball in the sense that he didn't want to mix with the other living historians there. he saw his brand of military understanding or military reenactment as being much more refined. as in he actually read the books. he didn't just watch tv programming and movies. a lot of reenactors are -- you know, they are living their passion through movies. eric was actually reading books and studying military history. >> do -- what did you think when you had heard that not only had he allegedly shot a state trooper but that he kind of faded into the forest? >> well, it definitely was shocking. when we interviewed him he spoke about events where he had gone into the forest for days at a

time. so we really thought that he was living his fantasy. it was no longer a reenactment. there were real bullets. there were real people after him. gone from obscurity, to living in his parents' basement, to being a real fugitive and actually having people shoot at him. and he shot at them. >> which was initially what law enforcement said after the initial shooting that this had sort of become reality for him. it was interesting to learn that he was also seen regularly around his neighborhood dressed up as a warsaw pact soldier. >> yeah, it is very scary. i think we -- with all of the terrorism that we have overseas and the fears of isis and al qaeda, we've somehow lost track that there are people within our own society that are on the

fringes and they do have weapons and they are dangerous. because they're not mentally healthy. eric frein is not a mentally healthy person and he should have never had these weapons. and unfortunately, he was allowed to kind of go too far with his hobbies. and i think we're so scared of these threats from overseas that sometimes we don't realize that there are mentally ill people in our everyday environment like eric. >> well, patrick, i appreciate you being on again, patrick, thank you so much. it is fascinating to see the breaking details. >> more coming up on the survival experts. we'll be right back. decay. it's the opposite of evolution. the absence of improvement. and the enemy of perfection. which is why you can never stop moving forward. never stop inventing. introducing the mercedes-benz gla. a breakthrough in design, aerodynamics and engineering.

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more developments in the capture of eric frein in a moment. but late developments in the ebola situation and the standoff between the government and kaci hickox, who battled quarantine issues. now she is doing the same thing in maine, this morning, she and her boyfriend went for a bike ride, breaking her quarantine. and why not, she says, she is not ill and twice tested

negative for ebola. reporters clearly didn't mind getting close to her. and late today after negotiations between her attorneys and state officials over altering the quarantine breakdown, and maine's governor took a hard line. >> i don't want her within three feet of anybody. >> what if there are any ramifications? >> let's put it this way. i'm going to use the legal provisions to the fullest extent that the law allows me. >> unclear exactly what that means. he also said that ms. kaci hickox could come out of her house, saying we can't protect her if she does that. which is confusing, because the state troopers are there to protect her, so why that protection vanishes is unclear, and in any case, protection from whom. earlier today, the cdc officials

had been in touch with their main counterparts, and would not get directly involved in the case, the president believes that earnest believes this is maine's decision to make, but to be made on scientific merits. first, the local reaction from alexander field. >> this is a small community, if one person gets sick, everybody gets sick right away. that is the big thing, just fear. >> it may be a small town but there are no shortages of opinions on kaci hickox and quarantine. >> it scares people. being affected by it. >> it is only transferred by bodily fluids, i guess we don't have to worry if we don't come in contact with her. >> there are just 4,000 people here, a logging community, sitting on maine's border with canada. but the low-key atmosphere all changed on monday when nurse

kaci hickox came home. >> i'm so thankful to be home with my partner. >> the pizza shop owner becky long says she is not sure what she would do if she came in the restaurant. but she is backing kaci hickox, and understands her request. >> it is a family community. i think she has a lot of support here. >> both support and criticism. >> we don't need this here. it is a simple thing. stay in the quarantine until it is over and we're good. >> i don't want to bring it home. i'm sorry, she should know better, she is a nurse, a health professional. >> a reaction some people believe is simply driven by the unknown. >> i think it is an overreaction in a way. i mean, you know, people are scared of what they don't know about. >> and we should point out again, alexander, kaci hickox does not have ebola and has not tested possible for ebola and therefore is not contagious. alexander joins us now, i

understand that kaci's boyfriend spoke out. >> yes, he came out and addressed a couple of issues. he said they're eating pizza, watching the avengers, and says he is missing classes at the university and has to call in by phone. he talked about the bike ride, saying they're members of the community. they stayed on trails and didn't go out talking to people. they don't want to make anybody uncomfortable, but don't believe they can make anybody sick. what he didn't talk about are the legal threats. >> he is not allowed to go to his school by school authorities? >> that is right. he says this has been explained to him as a voluntary quarantine. but at the same time he tells us the university tells him he can't be in class. so the question of this word voluntary is coming up. something they're both experiencing. for now, he says he can turn in his assignments next month,

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frein, but coming up, thomas jackson, his appearances in the wake of his officer, darren shooting, in the teen, michael brown. take a look. >> trying to stay focused on the job at hand. >> staying focused and staying on the job, at least for now, ferguson's embattled police chief, tom jackson, says he wants to stay. >> i want to stay and see this through. i know there are a lot of politics going on behind scenes. >> now, what do you mean by that? politics, are you talking about pressure coming from the federal government? what are we talking about here? >> it is not pressure coming my way. i report to the city manager, period. and as long as he and the counsel support me then i intend to stay. >> there are a number of people in the community who say it is time for a change. it is time for you to step down. why stay?

>> i do have a lot of support in the community. and as i said, this is my job. this happened on my watch. and i intend to see it through. >> one of those apparently not behind chief jackson is u.s. attorney general eric holder, who after seeing weeks of unrest between protesters and police said a wholesale change is needed. >> it sounds to me like there is not a lot of confidence there. and i'm wondering how does that sit with you? i mean, that has got to make you angry. >> i just think he has not been informed. >> you're choosing your words very carefully. >> i am. there has been a lot of change. there has been a lot of positive things that have happened. and you and i have talked about those. and there is a lot of positive things that are ongoing. so when you use a word like "wholesale change," i think actually that is not choosing words carefully. needs to be more specific. >> so do you think the attorney general is out of touch?

how would you define -- >> i don't know. i know that wholesale change is a very broad brush. and you know, i wonder if that means we get rid of our community policing programs. is that what he means? >> i think it would be fair to say at the very least he means a new police chief in ferguson. >> i can't speak for him, but if he means that, he should say it. >> jackson acknowledges some mistakes were made after officer wilson shot michael brown. namely his body was left out in the street for way too long. jackson apologized to brown's family but the unrest here has continued. ferguson is predominantly black, its police department mostly white. longstanding feelings of mistrust spilling out into the streets.

>> people don't seem to be talking to each other. >> i think a lot of progress has been made. maybe not out here in the general public, but locally it is. >> that is one of the first times i can say i heard from an official that progress is being made. you really feel progress is being made? >> yes, i do. yes, i do. the problem, though, it is being over shadowed by the ongoing protests. >> more protests are expected when the grand jury announces its decision whether or not there is evidence to indict officer darren wilson for shooting brown, who was unarmed but who had struggled with wilson after the officer stopped him and his friend. >> what do you think will happen if the grand jury decides not to indict officer darren wilson, then what? >> i think we'll see more protests. you know, i think we'll probably see a lot of anger -- >> i think a lot of people are -- are already predicting that

the grand jury will come to a decision not to issue any charges at all against darren wilson. and that this community will react in some ways, violently. and the thought is that the police, specifically you, are not in a position at this point to be able to control what inevitably might happen. >> we're talking a lot about how we're going to address that. and it will be a unified command again. we'll have the st. louis county police department you know, working with the highway patrol to -- and all the municipalities to put together a comprehensive plan to address issues as they come up. >> jackson says they're prepared to provide for decent demonstrators, but also will prevent looting like they saw in the early day. he also hopes that participation

within the community will help going forward. in the meantime, he will follow his supporters who gave him this advice. >> stay, finish the job. >> jason carroll joins us now, what does he think that is positive going on? >> well, one of the things, anderson, he said over the past few weeks he has had a number of conversations here with african-americans here in ferguson, community leaders. he said those conversations have been positive. he also mentioned that some of those african-americans who are on the police force here in ferguson have been promoted. a lot of these types of things, he says, are not focused on by the media and not reported. but he says it is happening. and in fact, anderson, he says he heard from members of the african-american community who actually say they support him. but i have to tell you a number of people we met out here on the streets say they like the chief and think perhaps he has been trying to do a good job. but they say they feel he is in

above his head and they feel change is needed. all right, new video, the police motorcade bringing eric frein into the facility. processed from our facility, mewp. and more on his capture, back to susan candiotti. so after being on the run for about seven weeks, finally, eric frein taken down to the ground by the u.s. marshal services special operations group after all that searching. frein was found at an abandoned airport and according to one official, he was seen walking towards a hangar at that air strip. walking along that air strip. now, he was taken down without any incident at all. no shots were fired. however, law enforcement did get from him two weapons recovered. along with some knives, a pistol and a rifle. so now you know he is being booked. >> susan candiotti. thank you very much. that does it for us, stay with cnn throughout the night for the latest on this story. we're going to see you again at

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