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this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. you saw parts unknown as anthony bourdain goes inside iran. he is here with me. despite antagonism between the two countries were you surprised really at how friendly everyone was there to you? >> very confused by it. i mean literally under the mural that says "down with america" people, everyone, reaching out. outgoingly friendly. where are you from? america. oh. you know? have you tried this? will you come to my house? i will feed you.
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the hospitality. general mood on the street. not being facetious about this. much friendlier and outgoing, just on the basis of being a random american with or without cameras, than western europe. in spite of a very tough history and a lot of very contentious relationships, lot of bad history. and yet, everywhere we went, people were kind to us. generous. and -- the government were not obtrusive in their. >> i was going to ask you. before we get to how much access we had. do you think the iranian people have been unfairly demonized either by the american government or american media? >> well, i think we -- we understandably tend to look at countries by their policies. we associate people with their governments. iran is, in that respect, not that different than many other places in the world. hopefully america. we are not our government
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necessarily. it's worth noting that, this is a very young country. 70% are i think, under 30. they didn't vote necessarily. they were not there for the wret revolution. the hostage crisis. they weren't born yet. >> sure you have heard about this, about the secret letter that the president supposely sent to the iran, supreme leader there. we are going to get into that later on in the show. my question is, did you get the sense that there is more that the government could or should be doing with iran? who is up, down, talking who is in charge is an impenetrable issue for me? i felt. we all felt during our time there, wow this 'tis surprisingly friendly -- it is very different than we thought it would be. and it felt look a window was opening. that things were changing in a positive way. that might lead to at least more communication, more
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understanding. an opening of a window. but with the arrest of jason and yeghi, soon after we, we left, it appears that window slammed shut. so i don't know. there are various factions and agendas at work in iran. >> you are talking about "the washington post" reporter. >> yes. >> have you heard anything since you left about the detention of the reporter? >> there are indications that perhaps there will be some kind of resolution. meaning that he has been -- held in captivity in solitary confinement over 100 days now, without charge, without any accusations being spelled out. there are noises coming out of iran now that there will be some kind of resolution. hopefully a good sign. hopefully. >> what about the people who invited you into their homes and their lives. how afraid were you, if you were at all about your safety or
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their safety? >> i was not concerned for my own safety at all. i just didn't feel anything but -- we just didn't feel it. there wasn't -- one has to watch one's behavior. we weren't doing anything wrong. we weren't making any inappropriate contacts. and our agenda was in fact to explore iranian food and culture and what it is like for an average iranian. what does it look like in tehran. something we don't seen a lot of in the west. what are ordinary iranians like? what do they do for fun? these are fairly simple questions. so we didn't feel at risk. we were of course very cognizant of the fact that the people we talk with and hung out with in iran, after we left, that their behavior or comments, may bemisinterpreted. we were acutely aware. >> let's talk more about access. you mentioned it earlier.
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the religious police. they're watching you. were you aware of it? how much access did you have? we had access to go where we wanted. point our cameras where we wanted. given the constraints of a society where your behavior, your come portment, your dress is -- open to question at all times. we moved freely without obtrusive surveillance. that doesn't mean we weren't being watched or listened to. there were not people with us trying to shape the story as happened in other countries where they can be pretty clunky about it. we were pretty free to move around and meet with whom, who ever was willing to talk to us. we did a lot of meeting with people that were last men out. the mood was good. people were -- were happy. and grateful for the opportunity
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to show another side of society of a, of a country, of, of a once glorious empire, the persian empire that just hasn't been looked at. as jason said at one point in the show. as americans. any free so tie teaciety. it is those places we are hostile toward or bad feelings towards or unreconcilable ones. those are exactly the places we should at least look at. have some knowledge. information. cannot hurt. you cannot be contaminated by knowledge. >> thank you. thank you, anthony bourdain. let's talk about, what you do, food, alcohol, there was some, you had some peach concoction that was nonalcoholic, not suppose to be any alcoholen the country. is there alcohol there, just not on camera? >> i heard elsewhere there is. i am sure this is something the iranian authorities are aware
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of. we didn't see it. we would have honestly, we -- we would not have accepted it or responded to an offer. that that would have been irresponsible you. see us drinking what looks like beer, nonalcoholic beer, very popular there. nonalcoholic beer. there is a -- god, that food. >> talking alcohol. food looks amazing. >> the food i should point out is glorious. it is a deep, deep culinary culture. >> you were going to say something about alcohol. you didn't. it is not really a party country. there isn't. you know, but there is a sense of yearning of the question of how much fun even is permissible. you know are you allowed to rock visibly. to what extent that -- how cool can you look on a day-to-day basis. these cultural issues are really
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being -- tested. how far can you push up against the boundaries. as you said you can do it. you are aware of it. aware the police are watching you. not some times. >> yes. the besiege. as far as i understand it. not particularly an official body. but they are, they can arrest you and did arrest our crew briefly. >> thank you, anthony bourdain. >> my pleasure. >> now to bring in cnn's jim schiuto with the latest on the relationship with iran. jim, we referenced that a moment again here in the newscast with anthony bourdain. what exactly do we know about the secret letter president obama sent to iran's supreme leader? >> we know there was a combined message in there. it said the u.s. and i ran have shared interests in combatting isis, in effect inviting iran to cooperate with the u.s. in this battle. both fighting isis at the same time. the president inviting them to find a way to perhaps bring, the
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fight together. do something together. but at the same time, the president qualified that by saying, that all of the, this kind of cooperation including, isis is contingent upon an agreement in the nuclear space. nuclear negotiations going on with iran. difficult. big deadline coming up. november 24th. the president connecting difficult, use there. leaving the door owe tune further cooperation. >> jim, as i understand it. you have new reporting. the u.s. has also opened communication channels via iran via the iraqis. what have you learned? >> they have. it is interesting. cooperation, via the iraqis, regarding u.s. military action against isis. they are alug information to be exchanged. intention to do deconflict. right now the u.s. and iran. fighting isis in iraq.
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drones. et cetera. by sharing information. intention is to prevent you from conflicting in the air. running into each other. or mistaking the other one for a faux. in light of this interesting relationship. u.s. and iran. the president sending a letter to the supreme leader. the military alug inflowing information. the two countries are adversaries but areas where they can agree potentially shared interests. >> iran is not a fan of isis. they aren't fans of the west either, jim. what are potential drawbacks to reaching, reaching out look this? >> well the trouble is, despite you have shared interests, nuclear agreement possibly or in fighting isis, you have a tremendous number of conflicting interests. one right there in the same zone. bashir al assad.
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iran the chief backer. the u.s. not fighting assad has sworn itself to removing him. that's one thing. in iraq they may be cooperating against isis and syria. they're frankly on different sides there. that's oner to. plus, the u.s. and iran continue to have disagreements. iran is holding a number of americans, illegally. the view of the u.s. plus iran is a -- a horrible record on human rights at home. so, as you have this kind of communication, potential qup raciqup -- potential cooperation, a lot of baggage. puts the u.s. at risk of cooperating with the regime we know isp to bad stuff at home. >> beavfore i let you go. from the white house, what is reaction from congressional leaders? >> deep skepticism of iranian nuclear talks not just the republican side, but the democratic side. you heard the house speaker, john boehner asked directly about nuclear negotiations with iran. he said in no uncertain terms, i
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don't trust the iranians. a view from many congressional leaders. the trouble with that, the president may need congress on board for nuclear agreement. it is congress that imposed many economic sanctions on iran. if they come to a nuclear deal. president will have to find a way to get them on board or way around that. >> jim sciutt ofo, thank you ve much. when we come back, amber vinson the nurse who battled ebola and within. what it was look to face criticism for taking a commercial flight after she treated ebola patient thomas eric duncan? you go. i knew that. you see, this is my ameriv managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this.
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amber vinson a dallas nurse contracted ebola after helping treat thomas eric duncan who died of the disease. she got criticism taking a commercial flight. in our primetime exclusive she tells her story in her own word. you survived ebola, what does that feel like? >> like -- a blessing. really. i feel amazing. i feel -- well, physically, i do feel tired. as the the day goes along. but i'm just so happy i am here. >> lot's go back and talk about it. you were one of the very first nurses to treat thomas eric duncan, right? >> yeah. >> how did you come in contact with him? did you volunteer? just happen to be on call? >> he was on my unit. i went in for assignments like
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usual. and i was assigned to him. i was, that was my patient assignment. so, i was -- i was it. it was my turn. so i was going in. >> you took it on. you've said, hey, i am going to do this. >> uh-huh. there was a patient there that needed care. and i i was capable. i had the nursing skill to do it. there was no way i would refuse. >> did you know when you can tracted or how you contracted ebola? >> i have no idea. i go through it almost daily in my mind. like, what -- what happened? what went wrong. i was covered completely every time. i followed the cdc protocol for donning, doffing every time. i never strayed. it is a mister you to me. as an icu nurse it is all structu structure, rules, guidelines,
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protocol. if you misstep, it is a matter of life and death. i respect that. and i am always following everything to the t. as stringent an i can be. because i know what the, the ebola exposure is a matter of -- life or death. for me, my family. you know? i followed the rules the best i could to the t every time. >> did you ever think your own health was at risk when you were doing that? did you know that much about ebola? did you know you were at risk at that point? >> i understood there was a level of risk. just because -- when you are dealing with that much body fluid and there is, there is a risk. i understood that. i felt protected. and the -- the equipment that we had at the time. >> a lot has been written about the hospital. and what went on. and some of the nurses. one of the nurses was on. with our very own andersen
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cooper. here's what she said. >> no one ever speck oke to me t ebola. there were no classes offered. there were no training offered. >> was your neck exposed? >> absolutely. yes. >> what part of your schneck. >> well the zipper ended about here on me. and the hood ended about here on me. this part right here made a triangle that was open. >> do you think you had the gear that you needed? were you protected enough? were you exposed at all? >> i felt like i had no skin exposure at all. i'm a hippy gal, i wore a suit that was a little too big. so the extra length it covered my neck. i was completely covered every time. my sleeves were a little bit longer than they probably would have been if i wore my correct size. but it just, it added extra protectionen ee ein my opinion.
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>> some of the nurses they may never have done that? was there a gap? >> yeah, i did see some. they would put tape over that area. at one point they were putting a surgical max. taping the mask down. personally i never had that problem. >> all of a sudden. you are following protocol. then your friend with nina pham, nina pham gets sick, what are you thinking? >> my heart dropped. i was afraid for myself. my first thought was -- nina is a great nurse. i know her nursing. she follows rules and protocol as -- closely as i do. if this happened to her it can happen to me. >> do you think you could be next? >> that's what i thought. it rocked my world. >> did you have a
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mini-freak-out. >> i did. a breakdown. i cried. it, i mean this is my colleague. and i know what i saw firsthand. and i, i know what i thought that -- that the disease process was. i didn't want that for her. >> then two days later? >> yeah. like i had no idea. like i didn't feel, before going to ohio, throughout my whole trip, and even getting back here to dallas, i felt fine. like, no fever. no aches, no pains. nothing. >> but here is the thing. when i say two days later, you found out what is that moment like, what happens? >> when i went into the er. they took me to a special isolation unit. and then they, they drew blood. and then they told me -- we're going to send it off. we will get results early in the morning tomorrow.
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so, it was a waiting time. and -- from the time i, entered the -- the er until i went up to the icu i kind of developed some more symptoms. i kind of had a feeling once -- the other symptoms came along that. this could be it in a number of ways. >> yeah. yeah. my first thoughts going into the -- the er, if we were in west africa, and nina and i both have the disease, it is a 50/50 chance of survival. i'm look one of us wasn't going to make it. so, but that wasn't the case. and i just, i thank god every day. >> what does it feel like? >> it takes so much out of you. it really does. it is -- very draining. and even now, i -- i walking a
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short distance. i get short of breath. when i was going through my, my very rough couple of days. you had to force yourself to get up. and -- forcing yourself takes -- a lot out of you too. it is a struggle. you are fighting for your life. >> did you ever think that you could lose your life that you might not make it? >> i have such great faith. i was reading my bible, reading sk scriptures. and i, i didn't feel like it was my time yet. i felt look god would carry me through. >> coming up. emotional moments with amber vinson her mom and fiance. what was it look for her family to be separated from her when she was fighting for her life in quarantine. ♪
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dallas got delayed a few times. and before i boarded each time or thought i was going to board i would go and check my temperature and call my contact at the health department. and report it. she would tell me if i was go to go or not. i got the report every single time. >> you never as reported called the cdc to check? >> i never had a cdc number to call. i would contact the health department. they would contact the cdc. >> when did you start feeling sick? >> when i woke up tuesday. before going in the e.r. i checked my temperature. it was -- 100.3. i called my contact at the health department. she said, i think you should go in. >> but when your temperature went up did you go, okay, here we go? >> i did not think i had the exposure i was hoping it was something else. >> the cdc director, thomas
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frieden did you get a chance to see the press conferences where he discusses you. >> i heard some things, yeah. >> the second health care worker reported no symptoms and no fever. however because at this point she was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to ebola, she should not have traveled on a commercial airline. what would you make of his statement? did you feel look he wike he wag you? >> yes. because i followed everything they told us to do. i am a nurse. i care. i care for me. i would not -- put myself in danger first. i would not take ebola to my family and my best girlfriends. i would not endanger families across the nation, potentially, exposing them to anything. never my goal or intention to bring harm to anyone.
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>> that really affected you? >> yeah. >> why? >> because it's not me. all i do is care. all i want to do is help. i would never try to hurt anyone. >> do people treat you differently now? >> well since i have been back everyone who has noticed me around town has just been great. they come to me. they want to, they want hugs. and they tell me that they parade f prayed for me. and they're happy to see that i'm doing good. and my bridesmaid i met with in ohio. i have heard stories that, just because they -- they know me or they saw me that day. that they, people end to stand
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away. >> because when nina pham got it people were worried. then you are on the airplane they contacted all the people on the airplane. cleaned the plane. the kids in the school. you know the whole thing, right? the bridal shop closed. on, on, on. i have to be honest even when we were looking for places to do the interview, many places said -- >> no. it is so much fear. the public really need to be educate ad about transmission. i now am ebola free. i don't have it. i have antibody against it. there is an ignorance about it. >> when you first heard about her getting ebola, what went through your head? >> number one it was just like, seeing how hard she worked on mr. duncan. and he passed. then i started thinking of the fact that god forbid if ebola did take her away it wouldn't be no funeral procession, it
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wouldn't be no urn, because even in death, the body is contagious they would have to cremate her and get rid of her as hazardous waste. a picture and memorial service. and -- the reality of it all just really, set in, gravity of it. >> you were in, stuck in a hotel room. >> uh-huh. >> you couldn't be with your baby? and the moment that hit home is when i was, i was actually on the phone with you. and the video came up of amber in the suit walking out off of the plane into an ambulance. i'm sure you saw the pictures. you couldn't be there. >> i knew she was alone. and having her alone was the worst thing. we would have been there. i wouldn't have cared if she --
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if she had triple ebola. i'm her mother. give it to me. wrap me up in hefty bags. i wanted to be there. i knew in my gut she was aloan. i stayed with -- with my son. and we, we, got each other through it. and i know that's why i was able to come here. >> you -- your house was sterilized. they burned a lot of your things. they incinerated your engagement ring. >> yes. i was crushed. it's -- it's thing but it has sentimental value to me. derek proposed in belize on the beach. under the candlelight. and it was just so romantic and everything. it's, that's gone. >> you're here.
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>> i'm here. >> what was it like the first time that you guys saw each other after that, the first time you hugged, you got to touch them and lay eyes on them. >> yeah, so i could see them from the plane. so i was waving like frantically. and i saw mom and derek standing off in the distance. then i couldn't see mom. i'm like where did she go. when they let the stairs done sunny was right at the bottom of the steps. all tearful and red faced. but -- and we hugged. >> what was it look ike to see ? >> it was beautiful. it was definitely a prayer answered to really see her walk down those steps. man, it was so majestic. i mean, for a short brief time there was a time when i thought i may never see her again. but to see her walk down the stairs and hair looking good. smile all and i hugged her the you know i take pride in not just silent crying, but i hugged her. i just sobbed into her chest. they got a picture of me too. >> he has been great through
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this whole thing. when i got to see him for the first time -- i can't even put it into words. you're my everything. >> mother and fiance. my thanks to amber, her mother and fiance. they are a brave family. up next here on cnn, voters have spoken. will washington listen? my cnn colleagues join me to talk about the mid terms. jon stewart says he didn't vote. then he backtracks and says he did. does it matter?
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american voters sent a clear message tuesday. they're not happy with president obama's leadership. democrats took a drubbing. i am joined by my cnn colleague. chris cuomo is here. >> no respect. >> you get no respect at all. the election is over. people spoke. republicans won control of the senate. so know what? what does a president do?
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what happens? >> all of the beltway is filled with conversation, bipartisanship, collaboration, and they're going to cross the island then of course what is the first thing that happens the next day. the president comes out. he will use an executive order to pass immigration reform, if need be, and mcconnell and boehner write an op-ed they want to overturn obama care. doesn't feel like a new day in washington. >> i love the expression. new day. but, you know. >> it's not just an expression. it is a tv show. >> a general feeling of dissatisfaction. people didn't come out and vote. what they did come out and vet on was decidedly negative. this was not a positive uplifting election. nothing to do with the outcomes. republicans they're not satisfy. they're not happy. they're in control. those are the swings. this was going to happen. i am not surprised it did. the question what does it mean? what is the mandate? what do they do with it? i am not surprised by what we saw. there is no indication, president obama on immigration
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is willing to take the chance of compromise. because we haven't seen it yet. what i am concerned about, where is -- where is taking one step, just take one step toward doing the work of the people. that's what they say they want. why deon't they debate the war. that's something that we need leadership on. >> how many times have we had this conversation? >> not enough. it doesn't happen. >> i want you to listen to thisthis. this stood out from the president. wednesday after the election. take a listen. >> frn weveryone who voted i wau to know i hear you. to the 2/3 of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, i hear you too. >> to me that was a diss to me. >> i hear you too, that you were, to me it is saying that you didn't care enough to got off your butt and go to the polls and vote. so i hear you as well. >> i hear it differently. >> because it's the minority decided, the direction of the country rather than the
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majority. that's what he is saying. >> i hear him saying that your silence is deafening. speaks vol usumes. i hear you are disgusted. that's huh i interpreted it. >> i think that was a diss. oh, i hear you too. then he goes on. >> a diss to him by the votes who didn't come out. that's his base alienated. >> this president can't even convince his own party at this point to support him. so then why should people go out to the polls to send people to, who are suppose to enact his policies to washington. >> why isn't the party abandoned its president and paid the price by running away from what it is and its core values are. i think the democrats aren't getting enough stink on them. getting stink on them for the result. >> even joe biden said in the interview. i don't thing he did the administration. administration does a good job of selling the accomplishments.
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even the ough he has been instructed. he said it in press conference. >> the fact is more americans are working. unemployment has come down. more americans had health insurance. manufacturing has grown. our deficits have shrunk. our dependence on foreign oil is down. as are gas prices. >> all true. >> yes, he does talk about it. the funny thing is he does talk about it. he does travel around the country and talks about it. some how the message doesn't resonate. i don't know if it is his tone. >> that's what voters say. the messaging isn't getting to them. they de they don't believe. americans don't know that the economy is getting better. >> he says it is because income is stagnant. people aren't getting raises. not feeling it at home in the pocketbooks. that makes a difference. >> you have two parties pushed as far apart as i have seen in my lifetime. one of the reasons it is absent to the voter is that they're getting such different messages. they hear this from president
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obama. but then they will hear from republicans, this is the werest evwerest -- the worst ever. you don't know where to go. because you don't know who to believe. then what do you see, apathy, 33% of the country coming out. afghanistan, this, their lives, to vote. they come out twice as much. if you don't vote you get fined. should we do something like that? >> no. we should remind people that it is what we fought for. it is democracy. the heart of democracy. even if you don't like what is going on, you still have a voice. >> listen to a fallen veteran last night. just an amazing recovery story in his own right. he said you want to know what to do for veteran. go volunteer. take your citizenship seriously. show you want to do something to make the country better i gave almost all of myself. >> i wrote an editorial. it started with a tweet the night after the election. first thing cnn should do when
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they go to fergusons, protesters, did you go out to vote. no, if the person says no. move to the next person i you cannot just complain. you have to go to the polls and vote. you have to show some sort of political acumen and that's the only way you are going to change anything. not just through being angry. i said, at first i shrugged it off. i said you know what this person really makes a good point. >> they are angry. >> it is hard to reason with anger. anger is an emotion. you are providing intellectual construct for what e motion to change. one of the things that bothered me in ferguson from the beginning. where are the leaders who should be there? something amazing low great had happened in ferguson the governor would be all over it, u.s. senators, everybody would have wanted a piece of the pie. >> you mentioned obamacare. and immigration. why do people vote against their own interests? if you look at west virginia, kentucky, arkansas. put a lot of republicans, mostly republicans in office this
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election. they're the states benefiting the most from, from affordable care act. why is senate. >> i have a theory. it is really at our heart we do want a balance of power. and really, though we claim that we hate obstructionists and impediments to progress. really we don't like when things go too quickly. when something big and comprehensive happens like obamacare. we are not comfortable. you can say we want things done in washington. we want our thingthings done. >> propose by a democrat. don't think that has anything to do with it? >> a lot to do with it. how it xiz plais explained to t. one we know there is truth in politics, people dent see themselves as they actually are. we all have misperception as but ourselves. you will see it two ways. one benefiting from obamacare. you dent reon't real i it. you don't want to realize it. this government spend too much.
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is reality going too far? back with my colleagues, chris cuomo. last sunday, 6 million viewers watched nic wallenda tightrope walk over streets of chicago without a net or tether. discovery channel is promoting a show, eaten alive. a man will cover himself in pig's blood wearing a custom built suit allow him to be swallow add li-- swallowed aliv by an anaconda. watch. >> we will get me inside of the
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snake. we are going to make me as appealing as possible. the snake says i got this fwhing herefwhing -- big thing here. you have got to go head first. >> you have to go head first. why? why? >> why? i don't know. i mean it is so disgusting. it appeals to our most voi voyeuristic base. are you going to watch? >> are you going to watch you are flipping through the channels. >> flipping through the channels. you see a guy hanging out a snake's mouth. you are not going to stop and figure out how he got there. >> i do want to know how he gets out. >> you know he does get out. if they let some one, you know decided this is the way they want to go. eat in by a snake. much tougher time getting it on tv. >> i hope so. i hope so.
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starting to feel like life is turning into a real life hunger games, nic wallenda, could have plummeted, eaten bay an anaconda, why are we watching this? >> i don't think it is anything new. didn't you watch evel knievel as a kid. he would jump over the cars? >> the motorcycle. >> jump over. he could crash. >> didn't he break every bone in his body. >> yeah. >> not new. upping the ante. people will watch it right now. >> jon stewart, christian am puram -- amanapour. >> did you vote? >> no. >> i just moved. i don't know where my thing is. >> first of all i have known where my thing is since i was 13. but to set the record straight. i did vote today. i did know where my, i was being flip. and it kind of took off. i want to apologize.
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>> 13. long time to figure that out. >> feel bad for him. >> wow. >> took away a different message from what he was saying than i did. >> do you think he was joking? >> i don't think he was joking. i will never know. it didn't seem look a joke. no punchline. didn't seem like >> he said he moved. >> he moved out of new york. he didn't know where his polling place is. a lot of people don't vote because they don't know where the polling place is. >> takes a while when you move. you have a lot of things to do. >> it seemed look he was caught. seemed like he was caught saying something. then the reason that it erupted on social media because he spend so much time pointing ow the hypocrisy and the absurdity of government and the media and then he was caught in that. >> power of going to the polls and voting. >> of course he does. >> buddy, you and him have much love for each other. what did you think? >> i don't think it matters if he e vovoted. it matters if you vote. >> how could it not matter if
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jon stewart. makes this a policpolicy. >> don't know it is that much policy. all this online stuff we have to find out if he voted. leave ate len. we have other things to talk about. there is an ironien it though. it would be nice if he gave the same benefit of the doubt he gave to himself to the people he decide to pillary on his show. >> exactly the point. if he found out a politician or bill o'reilly say didn't vote. he would make hay of it. >> can't you see him doing this on his show. didn't vote. did he vote? did he not vote? owe don't know where my things. everybody going crazy. i see him doing it. >> listen, called come decentral. >> you say -- i don't care that much. jon stewart makes fun of me. likes me. doesn't matter. end of the day, comedy. >> he gets a pass. >> he should get a pass. people should not chase him. let him do what he does best. >> thank you, guys. thank you.
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oregon and washington, d.c. is america going to pot? monday night we'll take a look at what happens as the smoke clears after election day. i'm don lemon. that's it for us. thank you for watching. and "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. tonight, an american's plea to iran to free his brother. "washington post" journalist, jason and his wife were arrested just weeks after filming with cnn's anthony bourdain after the summer. his wife is now free but he is not. his family says his health is failing. tonight you will hear their plea in their first tv interview. we'll talk to anthony bourdain coming up. also, ray rice's testimony will decide if he gets his job back.
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