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thanks to all of you. you can follow us on twitter. we are at cnn sit room there. thanks for watching. i'm brianna keeler in the situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, breaking news in the war against isis. president obama doubling the number of american boots on the ground in iraq. plus the fbi raids the home of a senior american diplomat and her job security clearance, all shut down. is she a spy? and seal versus seal. one claims he killed osama bin laden and another seal says the story is a lie. who took down america's most wanted terrorist? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. and "outfront" on this friday night, the breaking news, the united states doubling the number of troops on the ground in iraq. you heard me right.
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doubling. late today the pentagon said it is sending up to 1500 more american troops there asking congress for another $5.6 billion to do it. this is as iraqi troops continue to struggle against isis. large sections of the country are under isis control. a pentagon spokesperson insisted to cnn this latest ramp-up, is not mission creep. >> it is not mission creep. that is when the mission changes or morphs into something it didn't start out to be. this is in keeping with the missions we've been performing in iraq since june. >> i guess it could be. then they are going to change the means and the promise about combat troops. but if this isn't mission creep, then what? in june, the president sent 300 advisors to iraq and in september you laid out a military engagement against isis that it won't involve troops on the ground. and now troops that are there in a noncombat roll, very soon
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there will be 3000 troops on the ground and who will be expected to shoot back. jim sciutto is "outfront" tonight. and jim, it does sound to anybody watching like mission creep? >> well as admiral keshy said, this is certainly a substantial expansion, it is not just double, it is ten times the initial 300 that were sent in and an expansion of where they will be placed around the country. much more broadly distributed around the country, not just in baghdad or irbill. and because of that they'll be closer to combat and closer to danger. iraqi forces in battle against isis. encouraged by recent iraqi successes against the terrorist group, including the retaking of a keyboarding crossing with
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syria, now the president is authorizing another 1500 troops, doubling the number of u.s. forces on the ground. and the orders will put them closer to the front lines, adding two operation centers in more volatile areas beyond baghdad and irbil. and in other sites to train iraqi and kurdish brigades. their role is not changing. advise, assist and train, but it is a major expansion of u.s. boots on the ground. >> there is no intent to put the trainers out in the field with these units once they are trained. >> to finance the expansion, the president is asking congress for nearly $6 billion to support the fight against isis. including $1.5 billion to train and equip iraqi and kurdish forces. the president was briefed on the pentagon's request ahead of his meeting today with congressional leaders. >> we have to make sure that our efforts against isil are properly funded and so there
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will be an opportunity for the secretary of defense hagel to brief us on the process in our campaign against isil. >> today the air cost of the campaign has totaled more than $700 million. the price tag of more than 800 airstrikes and more than 2,000 bombs and rockets. the top republicans still not ready to sign a check sight unseen. >> they said they would make a proposal, so we'll have appropriation look at it and it will be presented to members so we'll see. >> so jim, there are some who would say the mission isn't changing but they are moving to do what they always said they would have to do, what some military experts would say, american boots on the ground. but who are the boots? they are not combat forces? are they not trained to fight or are they trained to fight and we're just not using the word. >> i'm sure they are trained to fight. but the specific goal here is to train the iraqis to fight but it doesn't mean they couldn't do it, it is not their role.
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i think one of the key questions going forward. you heard dempsey arecommending different roles and not just more troops. including ground controllers to be forward deployed to call in airstrikes, et cetera. his senior military advisors have not taken that off the table, if the president has, if they recommend that, that is something the president may do. that is something to watch for going forward. but at this point the administration said they are not going to take that step. >> jim sciutto, thank you very much. and "outfront" now, democratic congressman john garamendi. thank you for joining us tonight. we appreciate your time. we didn't expect this coming today and were you caught off guard that the president is doubling the number of americans in iraq. >> we certainly were not sold what i've been saying for the last three to four months, we are on a slippery slope and we are heading down that slope and
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it is a greased slope. and we'll see more of this. it is 1500 this time and there will be more before christmas and the real concern i have is what will be the american public's reaction when one of those men or women are captured by isil. we know already what could happen. it's going to really be something -- we're going to have to think about because it is almost certain that somebody will get killed and somebody will be captured and then what will we do? is this all out? we must very, very careful here and this slope ends in a major confrontation, american troops once again engaged in a major war in iraq. we've been there and we've done that twice. it has not worked. we better rethink this entire strategy. >> it is interesting that you say what the u.s. would do. and to your point, it is hard to imagine the response being anything other than all-out if one of these individuals were to be captured or one of the horrific beheading videos,
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anything like that. in june the house of representatives adopted your amendment to seek the advice of congress before pursuing milt action in iraq. so what is this? if the president was abiding by that law had gotten your authorization? >> well unfortunately it did not become law. except it made it through the house of representatives but did not become law. however, there is a very serious constitutional question underway here. the president has reached all the way back to 2001 with the afghanistan authorization to use war as his legal justification for waging war in iraq and frankly in syria, which was way out of bounds. we need, as the president said, we need a new authorization to use force. frankly, i think the leadership at the house just missed its legal and constitutional obligation to take this issue up back in august and september when we were in session.
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and to decide are we going to go to war in iraq and syria and if so, under what circumstances. and by the way, how are we going to pay for it? we are still borrowing money. >> are you going to vote to authorize the additional $5.6 million he's come to ask for now. >> i will not until we move forward with an authorization to use force and carry out our constitutional responsibilities. article 1, section 8, only congress can declare war and we're at war here. >> so the president has said, when you say we're at war. most people feel this is war. whatever you want to call it, it's war. the president though, has dodged around that a little bit and said there is not american combat boots in the fight and he's been adamant about that. let me play for you what he said. >> the notion that the united states should be putting boots on the ground, i think would be a profound mistake. >> these american forces will not have a combat mission. we will not get dragged into
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another ground war in iraq. >> the american forces deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission. >> i won't commit our troops to fighting another ground war in iraq or syria. >> are you worried he won't be able to get out from behind that rhetoric? >> i'm worry that he will be able to get out from behind that rhetoric. i'm worried that the 1500 new troops and the 1500 that were already there are going to find themselves in harm's way, one or more will be killed an the american public -- and the american public, what will be our reaction? we know what the new chairman of the senate armed services committee wants to do and that is bomb, bomb, bomb. and more and more. so mccain has made it clear what his view is, and that is go all-in. we've done that. we've done that twice. and we, frankly have been at war in this area since ronald reagan's period when 200 marines
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lost their life in the beirut bombing of their bearics. and this has not gone well. we need to sit for a few moments in congress and decide what the strategic purpose of the united states is in this area. is it to be the police and the military? or is there some other way to solve a very complex political and military problem. >> all right. thank very much congressman garamendi. we hear you loud and clear. you will not vote for the $5.6 million until congress has the vote to authorize force. up next, the fbi raiding and sealing off the home of a senior american diplomat. now she's at the center of an international spy probe. could she be a spy? plus two navy s.e.a.l.s with different stories about how osama bin laden was killed. valerie plain is out front next. and new details in the philadelphia abduction caught on
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spying on bee half of foreign governments. ambassador robin raphel spent 30 years in the foreign service so what went wrong? ali alise lavit. >> she's a veteran american diplomat, outspoken and highly visible in washington circles. now 67-year-old robin raphel is part of a investigation, shocking her co-workers. >> we are aware of the law enforcement matter. the state department has been cooperating with our law enforcement colleagues on this matter. >> reporter: fbi agents searched her home and sealed her office at the state department where she was an advisor on pakistan. her security clearance has been pulled and her contract has not been renewed. such investigations typically involve passing sensitive information to a foreign government. she was once married to arnold
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raphel, he was killed in 1978 along with president mohammed ozak, in a plane crash believed to be a assassination craft. there was speculation that nerve gas was in a crate. and while it sounds like it is from the tv show "homeland", officials stress this is an ongoing investigation and no charges have been filed. >> it can be very crippling. it can compromise collection systems that we spent years and millions of dollars building. >> reporter: a spokesperson for ravelel has said she is cooperating. quote, i think her nearly 40 years of experience at the highest level of diplomacy speak for itself. andrew rice told cnn and this will soon be resolved.
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>> she is passionate about strengthening u.s.-pakistani tiesment and in 2005 she said the administration was quote, not prepared when it invaded iraq but did so any way in part because of clear political pressure, election driven and calendar driven. >> alisa, it is an incredible story and there is a lot we don't know at this point. but what are the potential crimes that she could have committed when he hear the words of a counter intelligence investigation? >> erin, you are right. u.s. officials are saying precious little about the investigation but there is a wide range of potential concerns here. anything from just taking home sensitive documents they shouldn't have, to the more serious sharing classified information with a foreign government. now u.s. officials tell evan perez there is no sealed indictment. so clearly investigators don't have enough evidence to bring any charges but it is a serious investigation and officials say it is on going. >> alise, thank you very much. and joining me now retired
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fbi agent tim clamanty and christopher burgess who spent 30 years with the agency. christopher let me start with you. they did deget a search warrant here. what does that tell you? >> it tells me that there is sufficient rational to believe there is evidentiary detail in the office or in the home. >> so they do have -- they have enough to go on to go ahead and get that warrant? >> they had enough to convince a judge that it warranted going into the home and the office. >> tim, how surprised are you when you hear something like this? because when i hear it, and again we don't know anything, any specifics. they've been playing this very close to the vest, but you see her and isn't what we expect. >> it is not what we expect of diplomats or any government official. and i was in the fbi and we had two major spies, robert hanson and earl pitts.
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and hanson did it for decades. we didn't expect it from an fbi agent that was an expert but a dip lat or anybody can be compromise. i don't know if she had any financial difficulties that might have lent them to think she would be easy to compromise. it could be ideological. if she was criticizing our government, maybe she was displeased enough she decided to help a foreign government. >> how hard is it for an morn spy, spying for another country, aiding and abetting another foreign country to evade the united states in this day and age? >> well as your other guest just said, robert hanson, earl pitts, aims, they all avoided detection for a number of years. so it's a matter of do you exceed your brief and do you exceed your natural access to information and thus leaving behind tails. it is important to realize that if we are looking at an he is
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pee onnage investigation where the ambassador is the tarkt -- target, it has no statue of limitations. it could be recently or in the past. >> interesting point. >> there is no window on that. >> and tim, the other question i have, is this a story that looks like good old-fashioned thriller tales. this is not edward snowden breaking into a computer and stealing a bunch of bytes. this is a human being. are human beings still hugely -- highly valued spies when you have all of that data? >> absolutely. electronic eavesdropping and surveillance methods are very good but a human being brings context and gives situational awareness that any electronic can't. and even if you are tapping someone's phone or e-mail or tapping their movements, having someone with the knowledge that you are looking at can be extreme be valuable. and it is the turning point,
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because with without human assets, you are never 100% effective. >> does it surprise you that american diplomats could be spying for other countries right now. i think what caught the attention is the high-profile nature of the individual and i want to emphasize we don't know if she did anything at all, but that is shocking to a lot of people. do you think it is still happening, high level people in the united states government who could be spies? >> there are individuals within any government, including the united states, that have the capacity to break trust for any number of reasons. and each case is an individual rational, if you will, as your guest just pointed out. it could be financial, it could be ideological, it could be any number of reasons to, i made a mistake and it is not espionage, i just exposed information to someone who didn't have the
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authority to -- see it. so we don't know the scope. >> no we don't. but tim, how hard is it for a foreign country to turn an american into a spy. and putting money aside because people understand the financial incentive, and beside that, even if you don't like what your country is doing, to turn against your own country? >> well, again, there is any number of reasons. and if it is ideological, you have a problem with some direction the government is taking, you may not do it to destroy your country, just to diminish their capacity to do what you think is wrong. so, again, knopp of us know what -- none of us know what the ambassador is accused of, but if she is trying to help out a country that is one of our allies that goes around or breaks the law entirely, then she might be doing it for a reason that isn't to harm the united states as much as to help the other country. >> and of course ally and pakistan, one of those highly charged words.
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thanks very much to both of you. and while allegations of spying surround her, we are learning more about the world of spying. one involving dangerous operations that could result in death if a spy's cover is blown. miguel marquez is "outfront." >> in films like the bourne ultimatum, the spy, often the bad guy, easy to spot. in the fx show the americans, the world of spy craft seemingly normal people living a double life. the reality, the world's second oldest profession like the case of convicted cold war spies, julius and ethel roseberg, not exactly a hollywood blockbuster. >> it means a car meaning late at night. the operative picks up the spy and they hand over documents, they drive around, exchange money, let the guy off or do it in what is called a dead drop. >> and just who is a spy and what is spying at times tough to
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define? edward snowden leaked sensitive government material to the world and took refuge in russia. to some he is a spy, others a hero. here is what he told nbc's brian williams. >> i have no relationship with the russian government at all. i've never met the russian president. i'm not supported by the russian government, i'm not taking any money from the russian government, i'm not a spy. >> reporter: snowden has been charged under the he is pee onnage act, but a spy less than clear. >> if he had taken the 7 million documents and given them to the russians that would be espionage and he would have been indicted and there would be no doubt of his guilt. >> and then there was the case of ana chapman. the russian red head bombshell who built a career on her spying credentials. in 2010 she and nine others were arrested for spying for the russian government. she pled guilty to conspiracy
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and deported back to russia as part of a prisoner swap. >> she was a russian illegal. i don't think there was any question we would put her in jail for a point of time. that is espionage but not the same degree. >> where diplomats like robin raphel is concerned, they have to have something specific and provable to make claim she is a spy. a tough case to make. >> if you pass classified information to a foreign government as opposed to the press, it is he espionage and i has to be classified and top secret. if it is low-level stuff, the fbi won't bother. >> sometimes spying hard to catch or to define, proving it at times can be even harder. migez marquez, cnn new york. "outfront" next, osama bin laden's killer, one navy s.e.a.l. claims he fired the kill shot and a brother s.e.a.l.
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tonight the navy s.e.a.l. who said he fired the shot that killed osama bin laden is at the center of new attacks from his former comrades. other s.e.a.l.s are disputing o'neal's events that he fired the fatal kill shot of osama bin laden. he said he shot him three times in the raid on bin laden's compound. here it is, no matter what is the truth, secrecy has been shown. >> a darkened house in 2011 and s.e.a.l. team 6, it was captured in zero dark 30 and now a former member of the unit is adding a tantalizing detail. >> he smacked me on the soldier
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and said bad guys, bad guys. robert o'neill tells the washington post he was behind the point man when osama bin laden appeared in a bedroom doorway. the point man fired and missed and bin laden dipped and he saw osama bin laden behind a woman. at that second, i shot him two times in the forehead, bap, bap and then he crumpled to the floor next to his bed and i hit him again. it is also caught in the book no easy day by mark bissonnette. but the stories are not the same. >> two different people telling two different stories and for two different reasons. >> miss bonnet said the point man mortally wounded osama bin laden and two others shot as he
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lay on the ground, finishing him off. and there is confirmation that o'neal was there and in the room. is it possible no one knows who had the fatal shot. >> everybody has different memories, especially when it is a fast-moving event. >> the dispute has called an uproar in milt circles where some see capitalizing with fame, book and movies like s.e.a.l. team six is a smear on the idea of service to country. >> i won't spes to the drk speak to the specifics, some of the things are still being investigated but it does file ate a code of ethics that this community holds dear and 99% of them live by that code. >> given the sensitivity of the subject matter and the confusion of the night and the mission and the moment, it is fully possible we'll never really know who pulled the trigger that launched the bullet that killed osama bin
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laden, not specifically. but as many military analysts suggested today, he's dead. does it really matter? erin. >> it is interesting. and to so many the answer to that question is still yes. tom foreman, thank you. and i want to bring in valerie plain, former cia covert officer and author of burned. now valerie, when we see that, let's make sure everyone knows your story. you didn't want your name public but your identity was leaked. but mr. o'neal put his name out there and he is going to be the subject of a documentary, his name was included. what do you make of him going public with the story. >> thank you for having me on, erin. it is a pleasure. it is baffling honestly. i know when my identity was betrayed by officials in the bush administration, i was terribly concerned about the security repercussions to me and to my family. there is a lot of deranged people out there, not to mention
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terrorists that would take great pride in killing a member of the u.s. intelligence community or a navy s.e.a.l. so i don't understand the calculations that robert o'neill made in his own mind. surely there is financial gain to be had. if you were known publicly as such a hero. and on the other hand, at what cost, truly to himself and his family? >> and let me ask you about that. so you do believe that he is now a target? >> without question. of course he is. and he did that imh-- himful. i understand his career is legendary, he's done many things. i'm not a navy s.e.a.l. but i know there is a code of silence. so it doesn't follow why he put his name so publicly out there. again, as you noted, in my case, i never wanted to be a public person. i was very happy to do my job as a covert operations officer. he has left the service.
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so i don't know. he is going to have to pay a lot of money for sure for security. >> and he's not, to your point, obviously this mission is a historic mission, something that is going down in history. and maybe that is part of the reason that some who are on that mission feel the need to be publicly recognized for it. because oneal is the second navy s.e.a.l. to talk about his version that night and you heard the versions of who killed osama bin laden don't match up. does revealing this information threaten future missions? does this threaten national security or not, do you think? >> well, for sure the fact that they've put this out there, it is historic and there is annin sabrable appetite to understand what happened and how it went down. and in fact, leon panetta, head of the cia, went into explicit detail in his book. he also okayed the filmmakers of zero dark 30, the story of going
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after bin laden. so there is that question of a double standard. on one hand if you are a senior administration official and you put out a book, whether it's george tennant or panetta or robert gates, it seems that the repercussions for doing so are much less than those -- you know further down the ranks. >> well they're making a lot of money and they are not called traitors. people have been leveling -- and by the way, not just american citizens, people within the navy s.e.a.l. community have been angry at two of their own for speaking? >> indeed. it seems that both of them have come under a great deal of criticism from the former colleagues because there is this understood, informal code of silence of what they do. they really are the silent warriors that the united states relies upon to do such amazing,
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tricky, complicated, dangerous operations. they are truly putting their lives on line. so it's -- how this is unfolding is a little unusual. >> thank you very much. valerie plain, we appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. and "outfront" next, the man seen in this video kidnapping a woman on a philadelphia street. tonight in a virginia jail cell. we have the latest developments and some unbelievable footage for you. plus lisa ling on cowboys and cowgirls who are roping calves and you'll see who they are. because they are not what you expect. an unprecedented program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. for better access to talent, cutting edge research,
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the video shows him grabbing the woman and leading her to his car. this video saved her life. surveillance videos like this one have become some of the best tools police have to catch criminals. >> reporter: the startling surveillance video in philadelphia, helped bring carlisha freeland ganler home. just the latest in a growing number of cases where the crime is caught on tape. a bold smash-and-grab robbery in a los angeles store where you can plainly see the suspects on the video n. bel air, a home surveillance system caught two women sitting on the front porch of a home and one of them took a selfie shortly before three men broke in. police say all five are part of a burglary crew who had no idea they were being recorded. from the hit-and-run of a pedestrian in the crosswalk, to the car thieves breaking in and driving off, video has radically
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changed how police crack cases. >> detective ryan moreno shows us the lapd latest robbery on video. three men pinned down and a 61-year-old woman and cut her $65,000 rolex off her wrist. >> as a detective, what is it like to have a piece of video like this? >> it is huge. aside from being there, it is the next best thing. >> 90% of the robbery cases that we work, we rely on video. >> 90 percent. >> the detective now has a car, the suspects and less than 24 hours after they published the video, the calls are coming in. >> how much has video changed law enforcement today? >> i would probably say tremendously. i would say in the last 8-10 years, video systems have upgraded. >> revolutionizing how police, police. in the stabbing of this victim, william jennings after lapd
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released a surveillance video, the suspect turned himself in. las vegas police were able to piece together a shootout at a w walmart thanks to video. electronic eyes in the sky don't always help police. the unjustified shooting of a mentally disabled man led to an officer's firing and sometimes the shoplifting in a store, not always a bad guy, but a bad dog. so cameras like this, the surveillance cameras, such a common site, they are affixed to almost every single building you walk by. are there potential privacy concerns and we called the aclu. they said when it comes to solving the crime, absolutely not. but when it comes to whether the data is stored or sold, that is where they bim concerned. erin. >> of course we are all have fears about that. thank you. "outfront" next, an american tourist imprisoned overseas,
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and now let's check in with end coming newspaper a few moments. >> a 360 exclusive, you'll hear from the navy s.e.a.l. that claims he took the fatal shot. his name is robert o'neill, his thoughts as the mission under way, a mission he thought would get him killed or alive but sitting in a pakistani prison. and i'm joined by jonathan gillham. and a family mysteriously disappears a year ago. tonight that family friend is under arrest for murder. those stories tonight and a whole lot more at the top of the hour. >> anderson, we'll see you in a few moments. now a dream trip turned nightmare. stacy is a veterinarian. she was in a remote country.
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a shared cabin with a roommate led to a drug bust and it could be a year before she gets out. >> she has a passion for travel and wide life. from volunteering to treat animals along the way. winding up in prison was not on her itinerary. >> the suspect of a courtroom i did not commit. it is a very surreal experience. >> the oregon vet quit her job, even sold her house to travel the world, her mom tells me. setting out last year. >> just having a wonderful time. it was her dream. >> reporter: but in southeast asia that dream takes a nightmarish turn. during a september trip to the indonesian border to renew a visa, she shares a taxi. along the way, the the stranger stops to pick up a package at
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dhl. when he gets back in the taxi, police sur round them. the package, authorities say, contains drugs. >> she was terrified. she didn't know absolutely what was going on. >> addison is jailed, held alone for four days. in court, the drug suspect seems to clear her. >> testified before the judge that he didn't know my daughter. >> reporter: addison is freed by a judge, but her passport confiscated. she's able to skype. >> initially i wasn't, you know, that worried. i knew i didn't have drugs. they searched me. the police searched me. they tested my urine. everything was negative. so i thought, okay, i haven't done anything. it should be okay. but it is not. >> reporter: october 29th, she goes back to court. they arrest her on the spot. she's draped by police in a pink sa wrong and put into a car. they are sending me to prison, she manages to send a text to a
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friend. she's being held in this women's prison. her hair has been cut, a rule for prisoners. yet addison is not charged with a crime, being told the investigation could take a year. this week, she turned 41. >> never in a million years would i have thought she would be spending her birthday today in a prison. >> reporter: addison is allowed a lawyer and u.s. consulate visits. through them, she's exchanged letters with her mom. she writes, i have a mattress now and i can go outside two hours a day. signing off, i love you, stacy. what would you like to tell the government of that country about your daughter? >> that she didn't -- she just wanted to be a tourist. >> susan, the story is stunning.
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does the u.s. state department believe her? are they going to be able to help her? >> here's what the state department is saying. that they hope for a speedy resolution under timor's law. >> isn't that an oxymoron? >> but any case, the state department today met with an official, the u.s. ambassador, or the ambassador from timor west and -- but we had to word about what happened during the course of that meeting. she continues to say i was in the wrong place at the wrong time, i'm only a witness to this, i'm not a suspect. >> and they believe her. you have spoken to her mother. you believe her. >> you know, i just -- just doesn't seem to fit the profile of someone who would have gotten mixed up into something bad. >> no, no, it doesn't. she seems to be clean cut and innocent on that. how can they hold her without charging her? >> that's a good question. when you're traveling overseas, you're subject to the local laws and her own attorney that she
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hired there says she's -- it is a violation of her human rights to hold her without being charged. but that's the way it is. they say they did hold her under the law while they continue to investigate and she has to wait. >> those are their laws. susan candiotti, thank you very much. we'll continue following that story. next, men and women riding broncos and roping steers, living their lives with pride. lisa ling on the gay rodeo circuit. you know.... there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. mmmm. these are good! the tasty side of fiber. from phillips
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this weekend lisa ling travels to the rodeo. this competition bucks stereotypes. i spoke to lisa about this episode for her series "this is life". here's a clip. >> how are you feeling? >> i'm nervous. >> yeah. >> definitely nervous. >> branagh's come to santa fe, new mexico, to ride a steer for the very first time. she's competing in a rodeo. but this isn't just any rodeo. this is gay rodeo. >> what is the gay rodeo? >> so it is kind of funny. people hear that term gay rodeo and say those two words just don't go together. but in actuality, it has been
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going on for about 30 years. and i had a really incredible experience visiting my first gay rodeo because i visited this place in new mexico, where i met these strapping, masculine cowboys who had this really deeply personal story of heart break and heartache. and the gay rodeo became the sanctuary for so many cowboys and cowgirls who grew up in the west during the south and felt so discriminated against. it was a place where they could be their masculine cowboy selves and feel accepted. and that place still holds as much resonance as it did 30 years ago for these people. as we all know, why there are so many advancements, there is still a lot of discrimination in the country. >> this is, for so many people that will watch this, they probably had no idea it existed. >> have a kleenex. >> thank you. >> by the way, her entire series is amazing. if you missed any of the
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episodes, rewatch them. don't miss this sunday night at 10:00. there was a banner on the program that appeared on the bottom of the screen about the report of the navy s.e.a.l. who killed osama bin laden. it was an error and we apologize. "360" begins right now. >> thank you for joining us. tonight, a "360" exclusive. the former navy s.e.a.l. who says he killed osama bin laden. he talks about why he broke a vow of silence and possibly the law and about the mission that he expected would end in a pakistani prison or in death. the murdered family and the family friend who told us nobody had any reason to hurt that family. well, tonight, authorities say he had a reason and he killed them all. he's now in custody. plus, 43 students missing in mexico, thousands demanding answers and action. tonight, we do have some answers. horrifying answers about what happened to those kids and how police allegedly delivered the victims straight to the killers. we begin with perhaps the last person in the wor y
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