may have known about the lethal switch program months before the government was being told. and your "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and kate bouldin. >> i'm chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. ken bae and matthew miller. the two americans released over the weekend. national intelligence chief james clapper brought them home. president obama talked about the news this morning. take a listen. >> did not touch on some of the broader issues that had been the

source of primary concern when it comes to north korea. it's in particular the development of nuclear tests. >> i want to say thank you all for supporting me and standing by me during this time. it's been just amazing blessing to see so many people being involved in getting me released from the last two years. not to mention for the thousands of people praying for me as well. >> ken bae has been held by the north koreans for two years. he spent that time in hard labor. matthew todd miller was in prison this year. we have paula hancocks with information, be we start with ana cabrera. give us the latest. >> reporter: good morning to you. it has been a long time coming

for the families. two years for the family of ken bae and seven months for family of matthew todd miller to hug and hold and catch up on what is happening in their lives. matthew todd miller's family choosing to keep quiet. for ken bae, we had a chance to talk to his family and friends. he is from the greater seattle area. we talked to his sister who shared with us the first 24 hours about reconnecting. they have a huge sense of relief to have him home. he spent his first meal eating pizza with the family and she shared stories and laughs. she said despite what he went through in north korea, he still holds the people of north korea very close to his heart. listen to what she told me. >> what are his plans moving forward? >> i don't think anybody knows. i don't think he knows yet. at this point it is just to catch up with family and i think

he wants to talk with different people and reconnect with old friends. he is also aware that so many people have been supporting him. he wants to kind of express his thanks and gratitude to all of those individuals as well. >> reporter: she also mentioned his health is better than she expected. he suffers from diabetes and high blood pressure. the recent time in the hospital put him on the road to recovery before he was released. she acknowledged it will be a bit of a road ahead in terms of fully recovering emotionally and physically. >> it will be a long road, but it is so nice this morning to see them reunited after these two years of begging for that. ana cabrera, thanks for the update. chris. just imagine, alisyn, detained for two years for hard labor. the journey can begin. the question is why now and what will it mean for the north

versus the united states in terms of what this could lead to or nothing. let's get insight from victor who served on the national security council for the director of asia affairs and now director of asian studies at geor georgetown. the obvious question is why did the north keep them so long, but release three people in three weeks? what is your thinking? >> chris, i think the reason they kept them so long is they didn't like the fact that foreigners were coming into their country and possibly trying to get people to leave. refugees and defectors. they wanted to make a point by holding these guys for a long time. why now? the main reason is what is going on in the u.n. there's a resolution that is being drafted that would for the first time refer north korea to the international criminal court for crimes against humanity. it has 50 sponsors to vote on it next week. if you look at the north koreans doing with the hostages and look

what they have been doing with the south koreans and japanese with the kidnappings from the '70s, i think they are trying to blunt the criticism from the u.n. >> help us understand that. when people hear about the u.n. sanctions, they may or may not have any teeth. a lot of heavy threats from the u.s. have done nothing to move this regime. why would this particular threat mean something? >> for one, chris, i think it is because it is not coming from us. it is nknottinnot coming from td states. 50 or more nations coming to the eu to refer to the criminal court. just last month, the president of kenya, kenyatta is standing before the icc for crimes against humanity. the north koreans see that and it freaks them out. they are used to economic sanctions and military exercises. they have never seen anything

like this before and i think they are really worried about it. >> is there a scenario where you could see where someone goes into north korea and gets the leader there? how would it ever work? how would it come to bear fruit? >> i don't think that would happen. the icc's jurisdiction is not capable of doing that. the scenario that worries them this place is run by one guy and 1,000 cronies. if some of those guys happen to be outside of the country and in a country that allows the icc jurisdiction to pertain to them, they could be arrested or detained. that whole scenario is something they never really seen before. they pretty much felt they are untouchable and insulated. in addition to the fact it is the evening -- they did it on the eve of obama's trip to asia to make sure every question is about the north koreans.

>> obviously, the humanity of the situation begged an urgency. a criticism of the u.s. why aren't you doing more? why weren't you doing more? why not send envoys? they send clapper. is it fair to say you should have sent him sooner? >> i think they tried. i think the u.s. through the regular diplomatic panel, through sweden because we don't have diplomatic relations with them have been trying quietly. for a long period of time, the north koreans were not picking up the phone and not answering. now to say we are ready to release these guys and send an official. they sent clapper because he is not a hagel. they try to separate the humanitarian stuff from the nuclear negotiations. >> what is the concern in a quid

pro quo here? if the north koreans get relaxed sanctions or heat off them as a result of doing this, is that okay or is there a concern connected to that? >> i think there is a concern. i don't think it is likely that they will get a relaxation of sanctions because much this. they will not get a watering down of resolution in the third committee of the u.n. referring them to the icc. my concern is after apec and the u.n. resolution, they don't get what they want. will they respond with a fourth nuclear test? this is a play to try to get something and when they don't get it, we will see how they respond. >> victor, thank you. i appreciate you on "new day." alisyn, we will hear a lot for what it is like for the men to be home which everyone will relate to. >> i will look forward. chris, thank you. president obama in china this morning trying to pivot to

foreign policy after the disaster in the mid terms. the president is in beijing. he will attend the apec summit and hold talk was the chinese president. mr. obama spoke out a short time ago and said the u.s. and china must continue to grow as partners. >> the united states has worked to help integrate china into the global economy. not only because it's in china's best interest, but it is in america's best interest and the world's best interest. if china and the united states can work together, the world benefits. >> cnn's jim acosta joins us live from beijing. jim. >> reporter: president obama is in china to stress the goal of forging closer economic ties with asia. the president wants to apply pressure on beijing. the president arrived in china after a big foreign policy break

through. you are talking about it earlier. the first time the release of the two americans in the communist country and asked about the top secret operation managed by james clapper. later in the day at the apec summit, the president stepped on touchy diplomatic turf urging to express human rights and the aides say the president wants them to play by the rules. that means no more hackers trying to steal from american companies. the president spoke after the address from vladimir putin at the same summit. they did not cross paths. after china, to burma and then australia for the g-20 summit. if they do meet, ukraine is at the top of the agenda. >> absolutely. lots of stuff to look forward to

watching. jim, thank you. so has the head of isis been wounded by a coalition air strike? iraq state media says al bagdadi was wounded in an air strike over the weekend. central command cannot confirm that he was in the convoy at all. let's get to pentagon correspondent barbara starr for the latest. >> reporter: the coalition launched an air strikes against mosul of ten vehicles. that alone is interesting. because isis has not been moving in large groups. they say they have no information he was there. they were simply tag targeting a group through the reason. then al bagdadi was there and wounded. why can they not confirm it?

what they are looking for is photograph evidence, a dead body or an indication of a funeral or martyrdom statement. trying to listen in on isis commanders and see if they are talking about this. they need some sort of confirmation. u.s. officials say they can have any indication that al bagdadi was wounded and there or possibly killed. all of coming as the president announces more troops to iraq. many now going to new locations across iraq. especially out west of baghdad in anbar province. they will work on training iraq forces. it will be a long and difficult forces. the white house says this is not an indication the strategy is failing. this is indication it is moving forward in a new phase.

>> a plain reminder of need. not a lot of intel. it makes it hard to know what happens. a need for presence. let's get to the headlines. >> breaking overnight, nine people are dead after a plane crash in the bahamas. among the dead, a preacher and his wife. >> breaking overnight, a jet crashing in bahamas. all nine people are killed. >> dedicated to building leaders and training leaders. >> a faith leader in the caribbean, dr. miles monroe died in the crash. the preacher and eight others, including his wife, ruth, on the way to the three-day leadership conference he was hosting when the plane crashed. monroe is known for work as a

lecturer and government consultant. the preacher is an author of several self help books and ordered the british empire award in 1998 for spiritual contributions to the development of the bahamas. little is known about the cause of the crash. the caribbean community is left reeling. >> it is unmeasurable to amount the loss to the world. he was the most globally religious figures our nation has produced. >> his loss will be felt. the white house scrambling to get a deal done with iran. talks to continue after late night negotiations with secretary of state john kerry and the eu foreign policy chief in oman. the two sides are facing a november 24th deadline to craft

agreement. also breaking this morning, at least 47 people are dead. 80 others injured after a suicide bomb er attacked outsid a school in nigeria. the attacker was disguised as a student at the government boarding school. officials believe boko haram is behind the attack. nearly 1,000 v.a. employes could face action in the scandal. robert mcdonald told cbs he plannings on cleaning up the v.a. starting with firing and demoting and counselling staff members connected to the scandal. the falsification of the data to cover up treatment delays for veterans was first exposed by cnn. that is a look at the headlines. guys, i feel a breeze. a cold breeze. >> from me? >> i couldn't tell. i wasn't sure. hot air. >> father winter. >> that's great. it is cold. the cold is coming. it is arriving your way soon.

indra petersons is keeping track of it for us. >> soon or here. depending on where you are. look at the footage from minneapolis. snowing. temperatures are in the 20s. they feel like the windchill in the teens this morning. guess what? they are looking for about a foot of snow in northern portions of the twin cities. wisconsin, you are talking about a foot and a half of snow. it is coming. take a look at the purple and blue. the easy way to look at the weather model. watch the cold air dive in. going down to the south. this is the story as we go through the week. today, everyone is talking about the snow. that is not the story as we go throughout the week. we will watch the low lift out of here. the snow makes it way through canada. the tail end of the cold front brings all the dry air in day by day. let's look. a lot of you are saying it is not that cold yet.

that satis that's because it is not. beautiful in new york city in the 60s. you have to get behind the cold front. bismarck dropping 50 degrees. in the last 48 hours, chicago at the 40s and then 30s. thursday, looking beautiful. you get the sneak attack when the cold air quickly drops down. that is not that cold for you, but morning lows you will feel 20s and 30s. it is coming. the cold breeze is a ghost of cold air. >> she is flicking the cold air up where my sister lives in canada. >> up that way. back to you. >> you take it, canada. thanks for that. there is rioting in the streets of mexico over the disappearance of the students. some parents fear they were murdered and dumped in the river.

a live update ahead. imagine being home after months or years away from family. fears you may never see them again. we have a guest today who mows what ken bae and matthew miller knows. jeffery fowle, you will hear from him and what mattered move when he got home and what the men face going forward.

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tensions boiling over in mexico after students are believed to be dead. the attorney general says the bodies were burned and tossed in the river. the powerful couple with a behind it. now families are demanding answers. we have rosa flores live in mexico. >> reporter: things are getting

uglier by the day. we drove up to the protests to find charred vehicles in front of the government building. the organizer says that was us and we don't plan to stop until the students come home. tensions erupt in the southern state. you can see charred vehicles. and in mexico's capital. as the parents of 43 missing college students lose patien pa. they lost trace of their children not after the arrest of 70 people including a political power couple that the mexico attorney general says is the possible mastermind of the kidnapping. this is cell phone video showing the mayor and his wife of iguala being arrested. the pair colluded with the

police to kidnap and kill the missing students. even before the couple was taken in, protesters were determined to take them down burning their seat of power. this is the perfect example. it is iguala city hall. it is a charred building. a shell of what it was. protesters came in and wrote on the walls "alive we want them back." fuelling anger in the community, taped confessions by three arrested cartel members saying they burned the bodies in a public dump and tossed the remains in a river. a community activist says too many people disappear in mexico and are never found. he says if today there's 43 students who have gone missing and we don't find them, 10 or 15

years, what can we expect? the parents of the missing students say they lost patience. he says that this group has one message. their response will get more and more radical. mexico's president condemns the violence, but the parents say they don't plan to stop. alisyn. >> rosa, when do we know if the 43 students were actually killed? >> reporter: you know, that's a very tricky question. right now, parents don't know and authorities don't know and one of the very interesting things about the particular case is that these parents have heard three times from federal authorities that someone has confessed and remains have been found and these remains probably belong to their children. so at this point, they don't trust the government. as a matter of fact, they don't trust the government so much

that local m.e. offices involved, they had m.e. offices from argentina come in to mexico to sample the remains and they plan to send those samples to austria so they can identify the bodies. the answer is at this point no one knows. >> how can they trust their public officials when the mayor and corrupt police officers are involved. we will check in with you throughout the show. thank you very much. >> all those countries mentioned, you did not hear the united states. we will stay on the story and see what is going on in terms of cooperative effort to get the kids and find out. we will go from those taken to those who are now back home. what would home mean for you? after being detained in a place like north korea for months like matthew miller and jeffery fowle and ken bae.

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forgetting the people of north korea. >> he has never forgotten. he has gotten home. what a weekend for kenneth bae you just saw and matthew todd miller after a secret trip by the director of national intelligence, jay claper. our next guest can lend unique insight and more importantly, what it's like to be home. say good morning to jeffrey fowle he was detained in north korea months, released before bae and miller joining us now. it's great to see you. i must apologized, i feel i've left you in the cold outside, how are you doing this morning? >> just fine him good to see you, chris. >> how is the adjustment coming home? what's it been like? >> it's been almost seamless. i got my job back. i got rehired by the city and reestablishing routines here at home. it's been pretty good. the community, we have been getting prayers and stuff from

all over the world here, it's been very good. >> you know, we loved watching you come off that plane and your kids running out there, getting to see your wife. you know, you seemed happy, obviously, there also seemed to be a little bit of like this was almost a dream for you that you were living. what was that moment like? >> it was very good. it's been six months without, over six months for me since i left without family, without the kids and a very good to physically touch them for the first time, a half a year. very good. >> you say that you knew it would happen. you knew you would get home. was there a little part of you that was in doubt because of where you were and the nature of the isolation. >> well, i was questioning how long i was going to be there him deta detainees, there is a history of them detained for a while and coming back.

it was a matter of how long. i was aware that kenneth bae was 15 years so my horizon could have been anywhere from a few weeks to decades, actually glchl so what was it like to hear about these two men coming home. you western with them. you do share a very unusual bond. >> yes. i was elated to hear they were released on saturday, very good. when i was released on the 21st on the trip to the airport, i was hoping they would be on the plane with me. within i got on the plane, i found out i was pretty sad about that. >> bittersweet, i'm sure. >> yes. >> what is it like to be home the first day, the first couple of weeks, what's the best part, what's the difficult part? >> well, i can't speak for them. in my case, i was only gone six months, so it was much more easy to slip back into a routine than someone like kenneth bae gone

two years in detention or prison, he was several years in china before the u.s., so he's got more resistance than i do. so i can't speak for them. but you can pick up routines fairly quickly him it's better than being in incarceration for sure. >> for sure. the understatement of the morning. it's better tan incarceration, what have you learned about what helped? what is helping you with the adjustment and with getting back into routines? >> well, i haven't lost my faith of god. god is in control of everything. that's been the backbone of my strength and going through this ordeal. family has been a great help in this re-adjustment process. just taking stock and one thing for separation does is it makes you appreciate things you do.

when it's taken away forcibly, it's much deeper. that has been my kasem i assume tra will be the case of kenneth and matthew. >> let me ask you, i know it's chilly, when you think about how you were there and how long it was, if you could do it over again, would you have left that bible? >> i would say if i had to do it over again knowing what i did now i would not have done it. god had a different plan, but i wouldn't recommend it for other people. i don't make that decision until i'm stand income christ. if he says it was a bad idea, i wouldn't recommend it for anybody else and i wouldn't do it again. >> it's a good judgment. if the big man says it was a bad idea, you should go with his answer. that's the smartest way to go. mr. fowle, i apologize for having you outside, next time i see you, we'll both be warm.

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. >> good morning, once again, shocking evidence suggesting that gm knew about a deadly ignition switch problem long before it issued a recall. so was the auto maker hiding something? we will bring in renee marsh on this troubling report. >> good morning, the "wall street journal" is saying they've seen e-mails between a contract worker and ignition switch worker delphi. they reveal gm placed an mortgages order for a half a million ignition switches two months before it alerted safety regulators on the faulty switches. now one law maker is asking the question, why order the replacement parts to address the defects without alerting safety regulators. gm did not disclose the replacement parts order and

lawyers representing victims in the class action lawsuit will likely say the company didn't rereal the order to cover up the fact that they knew about the problem long before it issued that recall. now, if you remember, too much weight on the ignition key or movement of it, it can essentially cause it to switch out of the run position. >> that would cut the bower to the airbags and the braking system. the problem is linked to at least 29 deaths. we should note cnn reached out to both gm and the supplier for comment. mikaela. >> stay with cnn. we'll follow this story. another news, iraq state media reporting isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi was wounded. u.s. central command, though, says it cannot confirm al-baghdadingi was there. president obama is sending 1,500 additional u.s. troops to iraq to help train iraqi soldiers to

battle isis. quite a situation here, the rock band sivenger from the cranberries was arrested. she was involved in some plane rage incident. there are reports the member of the cabin crew had an injury to her leg. plane rage. a whole new term. we have seen too much of it. >> we haven't seen the cranberries, lately. >> cranberries turned sour. >> wow. >> we'll wait to know more. >> rr. >> let it go. meanwhile, people in ferguson, missouri are on edge as the grand jury awaits the decision whether or not to do it darren wilson the police officer who fatally shot michael brown. as the decision nears, community members and officials are trying to avert the chaos that

embroiled that area right after the shooting. we are live in ferguson with more. what is the latest, sarah? >> reporter: alisyn, today marks the 90th day of protests. who ill the protesters say they have been policing themselves, they have been shunning violence. there is a great deal of worry that might change when the grand jury decision comes down. that could happen as early as this weekend. ferguson is on edge. some business owners are busy fortifying their shops. >> it's hurtful. it is really, really hurtful. >> reporter: salon owner says she can't afford to take a chance that unrest will crash head-on into the business she back in a minute here for the past 11 years. >> if they should cool and loot our area, then it's going to cost us. >> reporter: we asked the police most confrontational person

about those concerns. >> there has not been violence. we have been completely peaceful. >> reporter: plenty of folks worry that may change if the grand jury announcement goes against what protesters want, the indictment of darren wilson for the killing of unarmed teenager michael brown. at a gun shop the manager says stea sales of firearms are up 50%. >> every time that door opposite, we are seeing new faces every day, dozens of new faces coming in. >> reporter: down that's because of what happened in ferguson? >> i think in general because it's spread beyond ferguson now. >> reporter: the mayor said he heard of it too. >> the plus side is everyone i sec to i went out and tried to learn the law. >> reporter: not everyone is convinced there is going to be chaos. at the ferguson burger bar and more before brown was killed, no boards, unlike most of his neighbors. >> i'm here. i'm opened.

i'm not going anywhere. >> reporter: and another ray of hope, when we actually caught up with the mayor, he was helping rebuild what is going to be a brand-new community center called the center for hope and peace a. lot of residents say they hope that's what happens even when the going's decision comes down. >> as do all of us. thank you for that update. >> that will be the big moment. the timing of what happens, the circumstances and obviously the outcome. we will be there to cover it. for sure. >> a little sports. here's your head lean. jets. jets, jets, jets. notice the green, no surprise to me, the other games are played and somewhat secondary relevance, a heck of a game by the packers against the bears. aaron rogers had a good night. let get details in this morning's breacher's report. >> reporter: packers and bears, two teams headed in different directions. they have allowed more than 50

points in two straight games now. as you said, chris, aaron rogers. he was spectacular last night a. big touchdown in the first half. the packers led 42-0 at the break. rogers spent the second half planning the state farm commercials. packers won 55-14. what's the only thing that can stop red hot steelers as they went to face chris cuomo's jets. justin babiers. he showed up at the steelers bible study and proclaimed himself a steelers fan him you knew what was going to happen next. pittsburgh went out and laid anic. roethlisberger the hottest quarterback 12 tds in the past two games threw one touchdown to go along with two interceptions. check out this play in their victory formation. mike mitchell leaped over the line to cause a fumble.

it caused a minor scuffle. rex ryan had two words for mitchell. i guess you can guess those words. he is happy his team won a game. seattle's mascot took a detour. he landed right on a fan's head. the most impressive thing about this whole thing is everyone in the crowd played it pretty cool while a hawk was coming right at him. the fan even reached over, petted the hawk. i don't know if a hawk is coming right at me, i'm making a run for it and screaming probably at the same time. >> let me tell you something. a hawk like that lands on a jets fan, it winds up in the tail gate. i'll tell you that. that guy was cool under talon pressure. >> nobody lost their minds, it was kind of weird. i think that is rare. >> that's how cool they are. all right, coming up, a story

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. >> he's the former navy seal who claims he killed osama bin laden. he first told his story in a profile in 2013 that identified him only as the shooter. o'neal says he encounterred al qaeda's leader face-to-face in the top floor bedroom and fired two shots killing him. o'neal's decision to break the code of silence is a controversial one. his account of what happened is in dispute. we are hearing from o'neal for the first in his own words. >> two years, if i am the shooter, and the team got him. it was a central mission, a successful submission. we got him. >> reporter: o'neal says he believed his mission would be his last and he recalled how he

and fellow team seal six members talk about the victims of the september 11th attacks while preparing to die. >> even on the helicopter rite ride in, for the bin ladin raid, when we knew we were there, they chose, the single mom two went to work on a tuesday morning and a few minutes later decided to jump said of burning to death at her last gesture of human dignitary was streaming out her skirt in this jump. that's why we went for her. we talked about it. we knew we were going to die. we were going to die when the house blew up. >> o'neal believes he is giving families of 9/11 victims closure by describing bin ladin's final moments. >> any time someone says my mom

died at cantor-fitzgerald or my mom or whatever, i tell them, psalm all died like a -- that's all i'm telling you. he died afraid. >> let's bring in retired colonel james reese, a former delta force commander. great to see you this morning. >> good morning alisyn. i'm doing well. >> what is your reaction to what you hear o'neal saying? >> wow. last week we talked about this several times. i've tried to bring middle ground between the pentagon, so-com the operators, the men and women at the bake level. and trying to bring everyone in some -- i'm embarrassed >> why? why does it embarrass you to hear him tell his story? isn't it important, somewhere, colonel, for americans to know that osama bin laden died afraid

and scared? isn't that satisfying on some level to hear o'neal tell that story it was osama bin laden's last seconds? >> sure. absolutely. and that's great. how it went down, i was not in the room, so i defer to, you know, mr. o'neal or all the other seals involved in the operation. however, you know, you're being taped by a reporter, you know, here's the bottom line, to whom much is given, much is expected. and that's where some of the rub is going on right now. okay. yes, people deserve to belong. our taxpayers paid lots of money, lots of money for men and women in delta and seal team six and they deserve to know what's going on, but there is a way to do that. when you present that to the public, the public expects, they look at us in a certain way. they expect a certain aspect of what a delta force or seal team

6 tier i unit person should be. i think the way he spoke on those tapes friday was bush league. >> you were a delta force member. so, obviously, this is personal for you. as a journalist i am in favor of more information. his argument resonates, which is that the victims and the victims families do derive some closure for lack of a better word, satisfaction, call it whatever you want about hearing that they got him and hearing how they got him. and does that on some level supersede the code of silence? why not tell our story? this is a proud moment for the united states. why don't we own this story more? >> well, alisyn, i agree with you and if you look at my career, i've always thought that some of the rules and regulations that come out of pentagon and the so-com are a bit antiquated. i truly believe there is a way to do this. i don't know that that itself the correct way.

do i believe that, you know, president obama met with all these members of the team and they talked to them. when they went to fort campbell. he talked to the whole entire task force that accomplished this mission, you know, those guys were there who did it and, yes, i believe that people that were at 9/11 and their families that were lost, they deserve to hear that. but there's a way to do it and, you know, maybe when they're out there with talking with those people, you know, that direct interaction, but then when you're with a reporter and, you know, a lot of his comments he spoke about friday night really had nothing to do with the raid. at the end of the day, who cares, osama bin laden was killed, osama bin laden led an organization that did great damage to the united states, but, you know, throughout our history, we have had service men and women who have accomplished incredible tasks around the world, but again at the end of the day you and the other tax

people expect us to get ready and move to the next hit and keep our nation safe. >> and your bravery is so impressive, everyone on seal team, every navy seal and delta force, it is so impressive when we do hear about what you have been able accomplish. so, thank you so much for sharing your perspective on all this. we will be debating this topic as well. stick around for that. >> thanks, alisyn. this is one of the stories we are following. there is a lot of news, so let's get to it. >> two americans held prisoner in north korea are back in the united states. >> i just want to say, thank you all for supporting me and standing by me. >> the head of isis was injured in airstrikes over the weekend. >> he's a bad guy. if he's dead, that's great for everybody. >> this is a threat that we are committed not only to the grave but ultimately destroyed. >> a jet crashing in the

bahamas, all nine people on board killed. >> it is utterly impossible to measure the magnitude dr. monroe's loss to the bahamas and to the world. . >> good morning, everyone, welcome back to "new day." president obama is weighing in this morning on the release of those two americans from north korea who are now happily adjusting to the comforts of home. kenneth bae and matthew todd miller are free from their nightmare ordeal in north korea. the president says there was no quid pro quo, including for bae, who was held for two years. >> it did not touch on some of the broader issues that have been the source of primary concern when it comes to north korea. it's, in particular, its development of nuclear traffic. >> i just want to say, thank you all for supporting me standing

by me in this egregious time. it's been just amazing blessing to see so many people being involved, getting me released the last two years and not to mention, now mentioning for the thousands of people that have been praying for me as well. >> such good news for these men and their families. we are all over this story this morning him we have anika cabrera in seattle near kenneth bae's home. we will talk to you in a little bit. let's start with paula hancocks in seoul. for more of the timing and circumstances on his release, paula, because this kind of came out of nowhere. >> absolutely. everyone was surprised when this happened, not just that they were released suddenly the fact that they were released together. this is not what analysts have expected. of course the question is, why now? why has pyongyang decided to release these two pen? according to washington, there was no quid pro quo. there were no conditions.

certainly, there are many answers. one assumption is it is a pr exercise for pyongyong. we seen an offensive in recent months, most notably, according to experts, because there is this human rights report going through the u.n. at this point saying pyongyong has committed crimes against humanity, pyongyong is trying to mitigate that report, they're trying to soften that image internationally. also, there is the fact that in the short term this is beneficial to kim jong-un, the leader. it's clear this decision came from him. it could only have come from the top. the reason that that happened was according to his statement from pyongyong, president obama gave an earnest apology, washington hasn't commented on that comment, itself, but the fact is, kim jong-un can play this domestically. it's propaganda oil gold for him. he can say i am legitimate on the international stage.

experts say that's likely one of the reasons as well. of course, north korea has a difficult relationship at the moment with its biggest allie china. maybe it's looking for friends elsewhere. it has in the past said it does want dialogue with washington. chris. >> thank you very much. a little intrigue there. the headline is they're home. so now, let's figure out what this transition will be like unimaginable, anna, to go through something like what happened in north yesia, now to be home. what do we know? >> well, joy, gratitude, relief. it's been a members of emotions for these families, for the families of kenneth bae and matthew todd miller who have spent months and even years ago wondering and waiting for this day. we know it's been 24 hours that the men have been back on american soichl who ill the family has showsen to make this a private moment, we have had a chance to speak with the family of kenneth bae who has shared a little about what life is like now for kenneth. we know he spent his first meal,

his first time at home eating pizza, sharing stories, sharing laughs with family members. i understand he hasn't spoke much about his time in north korea. we did learn he was working in a field an he was away from the general population. but despite all that, his sister, terri chung, told us yesterday, that he still has a huge heart for the people of north korea. listen to what she says. >> he went there because he wanted to contribute to their economy. he wanted to, you know, he wanted to connect with the people. he has a love of that. so i think he still want and he still wants that connection. he still wants to see the country and the people thrive and to be happy. >> it's pretty hard to believe. it go es to show the character of kenneth bae. he still does care about those

people. he evthanked the government to t them go. keep in mind, he has family all over the world. his wife lives in china. his children live out oftate. he hasn't been able hug and hold everybody. that's the plan moving forward in the next days and weeks ahead, chris. >> boy, oh boy, years in detention. imagine the journey he will be on to getting back to what normal is. what a great story she having. at least he is home. earlier on "new day." we spoke with jeffrey fowle, he was the first to be released. he says he's elated for kenneth bae and matthew miller. know whack got him arrested in north korea was leaving behind that bible him i asked fowle, would he do it again? >> i would say if i had to do it over again, knowing what i know now, god had a different plan, but i wouldn't rem it to other people either. that's not to say i think it was

a wrong thing to do. i don't make that decisionlet his i'm standing before christ in the after life. if he says it's a bad idea, i will concede it was a bad idea. i wouldn't recommend it for anyone else and i wouldn't do it again. >> interesting insight, right? >> it's got to be conflicting for them. because there was a lot of motivation, when you deal with kenneth bae and fowle, they're motivated by their faith. it's a really strong motivation. you look at the predicament. they don't want to see anybody else put in the position by anybody else. >> he could express his way given the hardship they have endured. >> the hardship placed on their families, especially with fowle, a single income family. his wife works part time. how much it stressed out the family and the kids. >> remember we reported how his job was a civil service job. they dropped him him talk about places the government finds to save money. they reinstated him. it's good. he got his job back.

>> that is a great update. now to the fight against isis, what is the condition of the isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi, they say he was wound when the u.s. targeted a convoy over the weekend. the u.s. central command says it cannot confirm that. now the search is on for any sign onlyf. barbara starr joins us watt latest. >> reporter: good morning, why can't the u.s. confirm it? well, there was a coalition airstrike near mosul in northern iraq against a convoy of ten people. the u.s. says it was targeting isis leaders it believed were in that convoy, but they were not targeting baghdadi. they had no information that he was even in the convoy. then these reports emerge. now they are looking for the confirmation. could he have been there? how would they do this? telephone intercepts, social media, anything they can find to verify possibly that backedi was there. so far, this is basically

emerging from fairly vague media reports. nothing that the u.s. says yet they can have any confirmation he was wounded. of course, this coming as president obama announces another 1,500 u.s. troops will be going to iraq and the mission they will have is to help train iraqi troops to get back in the field, back in the fight, especially in anbar province, that will be very dangerous. isis is on the march the iraqis are trying to push them back. the u.s. troops will now go there and try to help train the iraqis, first, president obama has to get some funding from congress to approve that. that's going to lead to an awful lot of conversation on capitol hill about the way ahead for the u.s. with isis. alisyn. >> barbara, bring us breaking news as soon as have you it this morning. we appreciate that update. let's go over to chris. >> boy, i hope barra is right,

alisyn. i hope it does lead to a lot of debate. they probably should have a discussion about a war that's ongoing. let's bring in our military analyst, general, it is good to have you with us this morning. what is the straight deal about how good we are at knowing if we got someone? especially when you have this, if we knew about this big meeting being brought together which seems very risky, how do you not know who was there and what happened? >> well, it's always difficult as you know, chris, you are triangulateing a lot of data as barbara indicated, you are going on social media. you see how they communicate. you link telephones with individuals. you try to get those numbers working together. if you do a strike, you have to 345ik assumptions. you are never really 100% sure, unless you do a dna swab and that hasn't happened. >> any chance they aren't saying? >> no, without hesitation, if we

knew it was dead, we'd announce it quickly. >> how fast can a snake grow a new head for lack of a better metaphor in. >> that's a good metaphor. that snake will grow a new head. we said before, you can take out the leadership and the pentagon would operate effectively. in an organization like this, it will morph and new leaders will emerge. in fact, bear in mind that isis leadership originated from saddam's military. these are very conventionally trained, very professional leaders that have been disenfranchised obviously terrible agrieved. this is the sunni grievance we have been talking about for the wrongest time. you will see leaders that will continue to emerge. some pundits indicated you don't want to go after the leadership as a primary attack angle. i would insist, yes, you do, the attacks have to be at multiple layers. this is a network. you got to go after it across the board. when you only have airstrikes, what you really are describing

is an engagement that will take a long time, a distant horizon before this thing can reach any type of a steady stake. we're not there yet. >> so that leads to the next headline, president obama is in a new phase, sending up to 3,000. the fear is, mix creep, u.s. bother on the ground. they will start fighting. not necessarily. most of this will be about infrastructure and much needed intel infrastructure, right? >> right. you have the mission that the scope has now increased. it's not like an expansion in terms of the mission sets across the board. there will be an enhancement in terms of intelligence, central command indicated the one thing he lacks is human intelligence, that derived from sources oak. so you have to bring in the capability to start to run sources, you got to identify folks who are willing to embed themselves as best they can. this is an incredible amount of

artful work that must be done, incredibly dangerous work. these are local sources willing to risk their lives to enhance their individual positions but to help us get better intelligence from isis on the way up. we have an amazing array that allows us to strike a very precise target. you have intelligence that allows you to attract the pieces of the network that degrades it. it gets it into a instead cri state as opposed to a surging and retrenchment. this is a long term engagement. >> airstrikes are as good as tear targets. one of every four air strike, 800 out of 3200 dropped weapons. it's hard to find the difficults, we need more intelli. major, thank you, always a pleasure to have you on "new day." . >> all right. now to that plane crash in the bahamas, all nine people on board were killed, among them,

prominent preacher myles machine row and two youth pastors and a child t. investigation is under way this morning. we are following developments from miami. what do we know, alina? >> reporter: well, alisyn, we know that local media are reporting right now this plane hit a crane as it was trying to land in freeport. we know there were storms in the area at the time of the crash so that is something that will likely be locked at as they try to figure out what caused the plane crash. as you mentioned, nine people are dead. among them, myles monroe and his wife ruth. they were on their way to freeport for the global leadership forum hosted by monroe when this plane crashed. a former u.n. ambassador to the united states and mayor andrew young is one of the main speakers at this conference. he was already in the bahamas when this plane crash happened. he is sending his condolences to the families of those who died. authorities in the bahamas,

meanwhile, have not released the names of the other victims. we do know, alisyn, the faa is investigating this crash. >> thank you is much for that update this morning. so sad. >> here's a look at your headlines, 12 minutes past the hour a. member of the israeli defense forces have been stabbed at a bus stop in tel aviv. officials are calling this incident a targeted attack a. palestinian suspect has been arrested. >> that suspect is a palestinian residing in israel ill locally. we are told the soldier's wounds are being described as severe. the retooled obamacare website is being retold. can you go there to check out options. enrollment does not begin until saturday november 15th. estimated premiums and out of pocket costs are prominently displayed. the white house is hoping to avoid problems with the initial obamacare rollout last year. so far, 7 million people

enrolled. the goal is 13 million. a fragile cease-fire appears to be unraveling this morning. there are reports of heavy fighting in donetsk. they are driving through rebel-held territories. it is suspected those vehicles belong to russia and the weapons they are hauling are for arming pro-russian separatists. . westminster, massachusetts, could become the first municipality in the u.s. to ban the sale of all tobacco products. the town's board of health holds a public hearing this week on the local regulation. local shops are pushing back against the been. >> that faritative gathered 800,000 signatures on a ban against it. given the juxtaposition two more states joining illegal marijuana. the municipality is trying to ban all tobacco products. it's very interesting.

>> tobacco is still legal. but you wouldn't know it in some places. smokers really can't find anywhere to go anymore. >> you are right. just as marijuana becomes -- just from a cancer perspective, it's still smoke. ruin hailing it more deeply aside from the fact that some people believe it has on your brain, what it does to your lungs. >> it is a big discussion him we want it because of the thc. many people who don't need it medicinally. that's the slippery slope. there is high anxiety in ferguson, missouri as folks await a grand jury decision on the fate of darren wilson. >> that is the police officer who shot and killed michael brown. is he likely to get charged? 23 will get a legal perspective next. the president may be in asia this morning. he can't go far enough to escape last week's election him we will talk about what's happening with immigration. john king will tell you "inside

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analyst jeffrey tubin. >> good morning. >> do you have any expectation whether darren wilson will be indicted or not? >> i really don't. grand jurys are secret. people have talked about the every day. when you think about some of the most important facts, we don't know what they are. how far away was i canal brown from officer wilson, if they were close, i'd suggest self-defense. if they were far away, that would be bad for michael wilson. was he shot in the back, in the front? all those questions need to be answered whether you can decide if this was justifiable. >> those facts, doesn't that necessitate a trial? >> not necessarily. i don't think so, because these questions do have answers. there will be forensic tests that indicate how far away they were. there will be forensic tests that will show whether he was

shot in the front of the or the back. if in the back, that suggests certainly a crime may have been committed. i don't think you can make a judgment about whether this case should be prosecuted until you know those facts. >> some of the questions don't have answers, some have perceptions. we've heard two di ver jept per accepti -- divergent perceptions, one from michael brown's friend a foot away from him when all these things happened. they're different stories. the fact that they're two different such stories, isn't that what a trial is there for? >> potentially. r78, that's not the only evidence in the case. officer wilson has a clear story apparently. it's all been leaked out now about what happened, there was this confrontation inside the car. brown reached in, a gun went

off. then later wilson says he shot brown in self-defense. >> that is not a complete story. how, what happened after officer wilson got out of the car. that's when the shooting took place. under those circumstances, you need to look at all the evidence, not just two people's versions of it to decide whether there is a case here. >> i don't have to tell you the he is not indicted the protesters in ferguson, missouri and people, many people around the country will feel as though the grand jury only listened to darren wilson's side of the story and there wasn't really justice. >> there is no question that's the case. and that is why people are so worried about how, when and how this decision is going to be announced. it's unfortunately, an ugly environment where you feel like there is almost this pressure to do it to avoid a conflag racing. that's not how the criminal

justice system is supposed to work. it's supposed to work on the evidence against an individual person. but that's why a lot of people are calling for some sort of early disclosure of when the grand jury is going to make its decision in order to, so that everybody can prepare. that strikes me as a good idea. >> to quell all of the unrest, if that's possible. we have heard, there are suggestions it will be happening this week, but we shall see. >> maybe unrest. i mean, we shouldn't assume it's going to be, people are fully entitled to protest. riots, that sort of thing. >> community leaders there are really trying to quell any of that before the decision comes down, we will keep everyone posted on that, thank you so much. let's go over to chris. >> here is the campaign for 2016 already in full swing. it does to me, john king will tell us what the white house hopefuls are up to and who are they, anyway?

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. >> here's a look at your headlines. president obama says there was no secret deal made to secure freedom for two americans freed by north korea over the weekend. kenneth bae says he harbor no ill will towards the regime in pyongyong for keeping him locked up nearly two years him bae and todd miller returned home with national intelligence james claper following a mission authorized by the brought. questions are swirling around

the leader abu bakr al-baghdadi, they say he was wounded over the weekend. but u.s. central command cannot confirm he was in the convoy that was hit. meantime, president obama says he is sending 1,500 additional u.s. troops to iraq to help train iraqi soldiers to battle isis. residents in an assisted living facility in new york hurt by hurricane sandy. fema declared them ineligible for aid checks they received two years ago because the money was supposed to be spent on temporary housing. that assistance was never provided because residents spent months being moved from one emergency shelter to another. i'm sorry to them led zeppelin fans, the band will not be reunited after all. 800 million was not enough by the tycoon richard branson for

35 shows. plant turned down the offer and will not consider. >> wow, for $800 million you'd think he'd reconsider. >> i'd sing some led zeppelin songs. >> there was only going to be three venue, london, jerzy and one other place. >> curious why. >> $800 million. what would you say the three of us can do a little led zeppelin. >> i know "stairway to heaven" by heart. >> what would you not do for $800 million. >> that's our question to you this morning. >> the ultimate rich people problems. speaking of rich people problems, let's talk about politics 2016 election. >> a great segue day after day. >> the art of the segue. monday after the election, we're supposed to not have nothing to talk about. it's a busy day, to go inside politics, joining me is jack

kucinich. let's talk about global challenges, let's focus, before he left, he sat down with bob schieffer of cbs "face the nation." . they are providing legal status to millions of the undocumented. but he says he wants to give the house speaker john boehner a little bit of time. listen to this, the president gives them a little more than a month even. >> so, john, i'm going to give you some time, if you can't get it done before the end of the year, i'm going to have to take the steps that i can to improve the system. >> eventually six, seven weeks, for the house republicans, that's not an offer i think will be accepted. >> ultimatums from the president don't work for health republicans or any republicans. they don't have incentives to do so, republicans just one the senate. they feel like i don't have to listen to you, but thanks. >> there were several reports

during this white house meeting, vice president biden leaned over to the speaker and said, how much do you need? the president shut that one down, shot the vice president a bit of a glare. >> joe biden isn'ting willing to cut a deal, that's his native habitat. the idea that republican expanded house majority would come back in the lame duck session take up an amnesty bill is unlikely i should say. now, john boehner couldn't do that, it might be hard for him in january to be a speaker again, it seems very unlikely. i think obama is doing that, in part, balls it gives him a measure, i gave him one last 84. >> i think he knows he is stokeing the republican base, hoping they overreact, in the election he somehow gets his mojo back because they overstepped. >> that's totally a part of the calculation here, if you do that, hounding more folks to

impeach him. you raise that possibly of overreach. >> the campaign ends. in our campaign, it's not just all of the politicians, some specifically to look at here, elizabeth warren, she not running for president. yet she writes a big op ed over the weekend going after the republicans, saying watch them. they're in the back pocket. scott walker, the newly elected governor of wisconsin is writing advice for republicans in congress, saying for all the governors here, pass an agenda, are we supposed to read into that? >> wasn't that the day after the mid-term elections? you see a lot of people coming out, elizabeth warren and scott walker, rand paul has been around, christie was on every sunday show known anywhere. >> careerry is in new hampshire. >> exactly. these guys are ready they're

putting together their campaign, publicly and privately, you see the movement with rand palm and these guys. >> in specifically the case with elizabeth warren, a lot of liberals want her to run. she said repeatedly she is not. when she stays in the mix, does that raise questions? >> it depends on whether she depends on staying on the side lines, in talking to people around her, i can't find any possibility she would want to do. i think she very much, john, wants to be in the conversation. >> how many times has someone been dragged into this. within they don't want to be. i think with warren, part of it is what is hillary doesn't run? what will happen? >> holding that space. she has that space if hillary doesn't run. >> there are definitely option for her on the left. i think on a personal level, it seems very unlikely. >> interesting, she is clearly planting a flag here.

even though she is a freshman senator like ted cruz is a freshman senator. they used to behave like freshmen senators. not in the new ruls. one more on this one, it is basketball season. maybe that's why george wind chill bush using this analogy. he is talking about his brother jeb, two we all know who is thinking of running for the president. >> i think it's 50-50. he is agonizing about the decision. he knows exactly, on family, for example, he has seen his dad and his brother go through the presidency. i would give it a tossup. >> for those of you wondering if that interview was shot six years ago when george w. bush had the oval office? that's the oval office replica. it is a dead ringer.

they could shoot "scandal" or some tv show. a toss-up. during the campaign, it seemed like he was pulling it forward. leaving it out there? >> i think establishment republicans in particular hope it tips towards him running. he embodies a lot of things, particularly on immigration republicans would like to see happen and questioned in this next election. >> i think george wind chill bush wants him to run. ly think he got out aggressively, more so than his brother would appreciate. jeb's son is trying to recalibrate that to be respectful. >> one more on this, rand paul is leading in. he meets with top advisers this week. the only thing would be if someone talks him out of this. listen to this, repeatedly, you ask him what time of day, he blames hillary clinton. did obama have a bad election night? listen to this him i think all the polls show, if she does run,

she will win the democratic nomination. i don't think it's for certain. it's a rigorous physical ordeal. i think to be able to campaign for the presidency s. rand paul trying to suggest that hillary clinton is too old for the challenge? that's what i see. >> very careful. very careful. remember when karl rove did this, said she looked tired. anyone who runs against hillary clinton. should she run, should she win the nomination, they will have to tread lightly on her health, her age. it doesn't look good. >> it will be a central theme. some will do it subtly. it achieved yesterday. it worked tomorrow. >> that is a part of that statement you see right there. again, there is little about hillary. this is about rand trying to establish himself as a serious candidate in his own right and push back from the problems he has in his own party making it about me and hillary. >> not afraid to take on the clintons. watch for the establishment now

that rand paul is so serious. thank you for that on a monday morning. you guys mentioned before you came to me that led zeppelin won't do this $800 million tour. maybe president obama and willie nelson and john fogarty will hit the road in their place. [ music playing ] ♪ on the road again ♪ we're your best friends ♪ >> now, that is the greatest of all causes, a concert paying tribute to our veterans. so we salute the cause. i'm not sure the president will fill many arenas if he hits the road singing. he can do it with politics, not sure about singing. >> twilly nelson, that's a great gig. >> i would pay good money, john king, here's the proposition, for willie nelson to be hired or appointed as cannabis consultant to congress because it is now legal in washington, d.c.

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let's bring in cnn analyst, dr. zan i like to call you. i don't want so make it being out of the headlines seem it isn't an issue, it really is. while we have one case in the united states that doesn't mean we should let down our guard. >> we have good news, everyone from the nina pham and thomas duncan era is not served anymore. casey hickox finishes today. we just have craig spencer right now. there is still real reason to be worried about it in the u.s. >> talk to me about why? i don't want this part of the conversation, i don't want people to gloss over it. this is still a concern. why in. >> it's absolutely right. we still have the same set of actions that failed to deliver good technical advice and assistance to the hospitals. the cdc and nil failed to respond early. they failed to communicate the

risk of the public. the thing that should concern us most is nobody should die in america to do i of ebola for us to feel the effects of ebola. >> the fact that we have a ebola czar and the cdc is updating its guidelines and the medical that sims are being updated. people are being trained and watched in the buddy system. >> that doesn't seem enough for you? >> we have definitely learned a lot. the cdc alterred its senses and we have a fractured central command. with the ebola czar, one bit of good news the president asked for a lot of money to roll back the disease world wide. we still have a lot of central concern over a set of agencies that cannot respond to infectious disease or global pandemic disease world wide and in the state, it's worse, we are

seeing irrational policies, casey hickox in maine, protesting that, the government wants to lock her in her house for no good reason. we have agencies that demonstrated an ability to control the communicable disease. even if are you not worried about ebola, i don't think anyone in america is at risk of catching ebola any time soon. >> panic has subsided. >> at the moment in new york state, we have 357 people under observation at the moment who have been at some rick and therefore are under observation. >> so essentially the water versus receded the levies meant to protect us are still broken? >> we haven't reformed them substantially enough. all the resident agencies are taking a good time to respond. we are still not doing enough in west africa. >> you have been very vocal about saying the not for profit, doctors without medicine has been at the forefront of americans, doctors without

medicine, thank goodness they do, other ngo that is are there, they have been doing a range. >> they have shared the responsibility. they are under construction. you are seeing a good gear of that response in one of the west african countries, the case numbers are falling. overall, we still have a global system that does not protect us well from pandemic disease. >> for example, in our government, bureaucracy taking over? >> i think we have a real difficulty with the structure of this. the cdc, we don't have centralized command and control. we have the cdc with a mandate to keep us healthy. it's a $6 billion risk management agency who demonstrated a lack of ability to communicate about risk and analyze risk effectively. they globally manned, responding to the epidemic. they made poor decisions in terms of providing leadership and getting hospitals on board

and subsequently made mistakes after that. now they've reformed. we still have the basic structures that make poor decisions in place. >> casey hickox is leaving maine, she and her boyfriends are starting over in a new state. you say that you sort of feel that the whole situation was bungled? >> it's been interesting. there are other health care providers who come back to their communities and said you know what, 21 days is fine, i'll order pizza, i'll relax at home. they have been laumded as heroes him i would want to leave maine, if i had a government wanting to lock me in my house simply to score political points because they say i'm a risk. the government is seeking a court order to prevent her from doing that. the judge said, no, you don't pose a risk. a three feet of separation you can leave your house. that is quite sinister. regardless of her behavior, we

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all right. we all know about the horrible test flight. here's the latest.

virgin galactic says it's regrouping, refreshing and moving forward. it's full speed ahead despite what happened a week ago. let's bring in rach el. what did you see and what did you think? >> it was remarkable to see the progress that's been made. this was the latest edition to the fleet of virgin galactic for the sub orbital flights. 65% completely finished. they were working a away on the spaceship a couple days aafter the accident. they are full speed ahead, dedicated to getting this ship completed and dedicated to getting flights off the ground. >> what are they change ago now that there's been the accident? >> the investigation is ongoing. they don't know the cause of the accident. they know the engine was found

intact as well as fuel tanks. there was initial speculation that was the cause of the crash. that had been ruled out. they're looking at premature launching of the feathering system. they don't know what safety precautions will have to be adjusted for this spaceship. they will make those adjustments. >> unknown in something like this when if it goes wrong you die. what impact does this have on presales and people wanting to go? actually george whiteside, ceo of virgin galactic mentioned after the accident they've spoke t en to passengers who were concerned, and now they're back. >> we know this is what test flights are for, find out before you send up a payload, humans et cetera. one man lost his life here. is there a sense it rattled them? >> certainly.

this test flight was run by scale ad composites. that was the company running the test flight. certainly there is concern surrounding this. they want to perfect this technology. at least most of the passengers, there's still 680 passengers that are not afraid that are looking to get on this flight. they're not swayed by this. they know this is what these test flights are for and this technology will in fact be perfected. >> thanks so much for coming on with the information. >> thank you. there are questions surrounding the unexpected release of two americans held captaive in north korea. what prompted kim jong-un to release the men? we're talking live with the state department. and cutting the head off the snachlkt a u.s. air strike goes after the leader of isis. did they get him? is he alive? was he even there? we're going to bring you the

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isis is there in significant numbers. a lot of effort will be made to keep those additional u.s. troops safe. there's still one big to do. president obama has to get approval, funding approval from congress to make that new deployment happen. >> hopefully it forces congress to have the debate on the war. it points to the need of that intel infrastructure on the ground. that's what troops are supposed to be doing. thank you for reporting this morning. alisyn? new information about gm's deadly ignitioni inswitch scand. it ordered the report two months before alerting regulators about the problem. what do we know rene? >> new questions about how long gm and top executives knew about

the deadly problem with the ignition switches. an attorney is suing the auto maker and says recently unclassified e-mails revealed gm placed an emergency order for half a million ignition switches two months before it alerted federal safety regulators. the faulty switches are linked to 30 deaths. the e-mails between gm and the supplier are raising the question, why play an urgent order for replacement parts without alerting safety regulators of the defect? the victim's attorney says e-mails show top executives knew about the problem long before the recall was issued. if that was the case, it's truly a blow to their credibility. the company had said top executives did not know about the problem until just before the recall and they acted immediately. if you remember the problem is, two much weight on the ignition key can move the switch out of the run position to cut power to

the air bags as well as the braking system. we should note cnn has a reached out to gm and the ignition switch supplier for comment. >> let us know when gm responds to these latest accusations. thanks so much. let's get over to michaela for more headlines. >> hello. 13 minutes past the hour. the clock is ticking on talks with john kerry. the talks continuing today. there is a november 24th deadline to get the agreement signed to keep iranians from building a nuclear bomb. a deadly plane crash in paradise. all nine killed on board in the bahamas. among them a prominent preacher and his wife. what do we know? >> we're still many the early stages of this investigation. authorities have released very few details, but cnn has learned from a spokesperson from the

royal bahamas police force that this plane clipped a crane trying to land in free port. it ended up crash landing in a shipyard not far from the run way. there were also storms in the area. weather may play a big factor in this crash. nine were on board, all of them died. among them, dr. monroe and his wife ruth. he was a prominent pastor. he was on his way to the global leadership forum he was supposed to host when this plane crash. former ambassador to united nations and former atlanta mayor is in bahamas and sending condolences for the victim's families. >> thanks for updating us on that story. also breaking this morning, 47 people are dead, 80 others injured after a suicide bomber attacked outside a school in northern nigeria. the attacker was disguised as a

student when he set off the explosion at a government boarding school. local officials believe boko haram is behind that attack. caught on video. an apparent slap that causes a suspension of a sheriff deputy in upstate new york. this shows the officer sparring with the man that repeatedly says there's no reason to search his car. then you hear what sounds like a slap. >> that deputy has been suspended without pay pending an investigation. a would be robber picked the wrong gas station to try to hold up in south florida. the guy points his gun at the clerk, demands money and goes behind the counter to open the register. the clerk realized that wasn't a real gun. he said it sounded like plastic. instead he grabs a baseball bat and starts swinging. the suspect fled.

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dozens of college students have been missing since september. did you know this? protests have now erupted in

mexico after word spread that these kids were abducted and maybe dead. the mexican attorney general has gruesome details saying bodies could have been burned or tossed in a river. a powerful political couple is allegedly behind the abductions. families still don't have the answers they want. we are in on the ground in mexico. here's the story. >> reporter: tensions erupt in mexico southern state. take a look around. you can see charred vehicles. in mexico's capital, as the parents of 43 missing college students lose patience with authorities. it's been more than a month and no trace of their children, not even after the arrest of more than 70 people including a political power couple. mexico's attorney general says they are the possible master mind of the kidnapping. this is cell phone video showing the mayor and his wife being

arrested. authorities say the cartel connected pair colluded with the police chief to kidnap, kill, and dispose of the students. neither the i mayor or his wife commented. even before they were taken in, protestors were determined to take them down. >> this is a perfect example. it's city hall. take a look. it's a charred building, a shell of what it was. protestors actually came in and wrote on the walls. alive, we want them back. >> fuelling anger in the community, taped confessions by three recently arrest add cartel members saying they burned the bodies in a public dump and tossed the remains into the river. this community activist says too many people disappear in mexico

and are never found. he says, if today there's 43 students who have gone missing and we don't find them, 10 to 15 years from now, what can we expect? >> the parents of the missing students say they've lost patience. >> he says that this group has one message that their response will get more and more radical. >> rosa in talking to families, when they hear the confessions of those, what is hair best explanation at this point of what happened to their kids? >> reporter: you know chris, they are very skeptical. quite frankly they don't trust the government. here's why. they've been told three times that confessions have been made, that remains have been found, and that these remains could possibly be their children. of course they're extremely skeptical. they say until we have forensic

evidence, we are going to believe that our children are alive. >> the cartels kill people all the time. the question is why these kids? is there any notion? was it for ransom or anything? >> you know, that's one of the big mysteries. i've talked to multiple people in this community. that's exactly what they question. they say why? normally in this part of southern mexico you mind dead bodies on the side of the road quite frankly. their main question is, why such a gruesome crime against students? quite frankly, people don't have the answer to that. >> then it takes you to who's trying to find the answers. you're saying there's a distrust of government there. we know the history. any word about the u.s. or international bodies helping out? >> reporter: international bodies are definitely coming in. actually at the request of the parents because they don't trust mexican officials. they're bringing in forensic

experts from argentina to sample the remains. then they did a search trying to figure out which best lab could handle the remains. they're heavily decomposed and chars. they'll send those to austria. they're hoping the results are negative. >> thank you for being there. be safe. we'll get back to you. >> a sickening story. hope we can get answers very soon. meanwhile, is the that i mean silicone valley synonymous with lily white? we'll look at howdy versety affects top countries in the u.s. anxieties grow in ferguson as we a wait the grand jury's decision to indict the office per in the shooting of michael brown. we'll go speak to michael brown's attorney. stick around. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches?

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what will happen this week in ferguson, missouri? a grand jury is deciding whether to indict darren wilson, the police officer that killed michael brown. what happens if the officer not charged for the crime? we'll speak for the lawyer of michael brown's family many a moment. first to sarah live in ferguson. good morning sarah. >> reporter: good morning alisyn. you know, the grand jury decision expected to come down at the earliest this weekend potentially. a lot of people here are expressing concern about what that might mean for this town that has seen protests every single day for 90 days now.

ferguson is on edge. some business owners are bufort identifying their shops. >> it's really hurtful. >> this salon owner can't afford to take a chance the business will crash. >> if they should come and loot our area a, it's going to cost us. >> protests haven't stopped for three months on her street. we asked one of the police's most confrontational protestors about those concerns. >> as far as the last 90 days, people know if you have been paying attention, there hasn't been looting, no violence. we've been keeping it completely peaceful. >> nevertheless, plenty of folks worry that may change if the grand jury announcement goes against what protestors want, the indictment of officer darren wilson for killer of michael brown. at a gun shop, a manager says

the sales of firearms for personal protest are up 50%. >> every time the door opens, dozens of new faces coming in. >> do you think that's because of what happened in ferguson? >> it's spread beyond ferguson now. >> the mayor of ferguson has heard about it too. >> the people i've spoke ton have taken a training class and tried to learn the law. >> at the ferguson burger bar and more that opened just a day before brown was killed has no boards unlike most neighbors. >> i'm here, i'm open. i'm not going anywhere. >> reporter: and we should mention that the family of michael brown has sent clear messages to protestors that violence is not the answer. they have asked repeatedly for the protests to be peaceful. the protestors themselves have been policing themselves and

telling people who want to be violent that they are not with them. chris? >> and as you know because you've been there sarah, a lot of people in there causing trouble aren't from the community. how to keep control is a big issue. let's continue the conversation with cocouncil for michael brown's family. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you chris. goo good morning to you. >> let's look at the cultural aspect of this. how concerned are you about what happens when word of indictment comes down? >> very concerned. we just don't know what type of reaction that is weight as a result of the announcement. whether for or against. the uncertainly that looms around this whole situation has got most on pins and needles that are deeply involved and deeply connected to this case. that includes myself as well as

the family. we hope as you segway into your segment with me that things remain peaceful, there is no violence and we advocate for people to maintain that level of reaction at this point. >> working those streets the last time around, there's a lot of outside agitators. this place has become a metaphor for people's upset about different issues. it's going to be hard to keep control there. i'm assuming if there's not an indictment there will be a negative reaction. you're not anticipating a bad one if there is an indictment? >> there is such a thing as overcelebration that should be of minor concern. the major concern is the negative reaction from the announcement of a non indictment. to that chris, i cannot speak to the predictability of people. you just don't know how they're going to respond especially after weeks and months of just

suppressing their emotions thus far. >> let's try and use the rest of the time we have here to just kind of play out the main factors going on with this grand jury. so many are trying to figure out right and wrong. from the prosecutor's perspective, they have to feel they can win this case. presenting the evidence to the grand jury, if they leave them with the feeling you know what, there's questions here that could go either way. i think there's as much to support the officer's story as the other, they may not indict. will that be the wrong outcome in your opinion? >> no. i think what should ultimately happen especially in the case like this, if there's even a 50/50 chance which is what probable cause means this terms of standard, then i think a jury should have an opportunity to take that chance. i think the prosecutor should pursue that chance given the gravity of this case, magnitude of consequences throughout the

community and world. let's see how the jury will actually find in this case. i don't think we should use a predictor to decide whether or not to go forward with the trial. the fact it is 50/50 to me indicates we should move forward. >> right or wrong, indictments against cops are harder to get. if this was two individuals, this would be different. do you think people should keep that in consideration here? >> no doubt about it. police officers are given a greater benefit of the doubt than any joe blow citizen. that's part of the matrix when you consider cases like this. the fact it does involve a police officer as an additional element to your consideration. no doubt about it. benefit goes to officer. so we just proceed with that and let the chips fall where they may at the end of the day. >> for all different facts and

angles that come in consideration, do you think the juror's minds on what distance michael brown and the officers were at when the shots were fired will come down to what their decision is? >> you hit it on the head chris. that's what all of this case is about. the fatal shots. nothing before, whether minutes or days or weeks matter in this particular case. it will come down to that. how much distance was it? what kind of threat was it? the fact remains mike brown was unarmed at that particular time. so yeah, i think the whole case centers around the fatal bullets to mike brown jr.'s head, distance, threat, everything else should go in consideration at that point. >> send our condolences to the family. we know they don't want their son's legacy to be tarnished by violence. they can't control that either.

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welcome back. quite a weekend both deep underground and up in the sky. a series of earthquakes rattling

parts of northwest nevada. it's been going on since july. there's been an uptick in intense sinten inten intensity. reports of a fire ball in the sky, a possible meteor. we're going to ask the question what is going on? the host of outrageous host of science on the science channel. i'm so glad to have a geeky conversation with you. how are you? >> i'm very well. how are you? >> good morning to you. is it too much to link these things together? is this science and mother nature flexing her muscle a little bit? >> i'm cohost of how the universe works right. what we're seeing is exactly that. on display how the universe is working. what normally happens is stuff falls to earth from the sky. it happens everyday. the other thing that's happening is the earth itself is dynamic.

earth is cooling, crust is moving in dynamic. what's interesting about these earthquakes is that, you know, some may suggest there's a human element involved in triggering them. >> there's the conversation about fracking. i'll get to that in a second. one of the things noticeable about what we're seeing, the swarm in nevada, it wasn't just one or two. there were hundreds. i think people were rightly -- do they need to be concerned about a big one coming? >> swarms of earthquakes can indicate something is going to happen or it can be nothing. when we look at naturally occurring earthquakes, only 1% of swarms will have a big earthquake to follow. now other nationally occurring phenomenons for example, volcanic eruptions are proceeded by swarms of earthquakes. in this case, we can't say for certain because there's no way

of predicting whether it is an indicator of more happening. only 1% of swarms indicate a big one is coming. >> what about humans playing a role in the shaking of the earth? there's a lot in news and public consciousness about water lines and fracking and other elements. what do you make of it all? >> here's an interesting tidbit. if you look at the research on earthquake swarms, long before fracking existed, there was a connection with motion of fluid others within the earth. now with fracking, it's though the the actual process itself but apparently studies indicate it's disposal of waste water thousands of feet below the ground that somehow changes conditions there. you can increase pressure at the fault lines. you can have movement of water along fault lines. you can lubricate fault lines. that can cause a distinct fault line to change position which

results in an earthquake. so the evidence is starting to build up. there's a key piece of missing information. that is in order to be conclusive, you need to know the state of the fault prior to the earthquake swarm. >> let's leave the earth and go up in the sky. the folks in texas treated to a light show. reports of a green light streaking through the night sky. what's going on? >> as a nerd, we are loving this era of cameras everywhere. >> just a matter of time until somebody is going to get it. >> yeah. things are falling to earth everyday. something like two tons of matter fall to earth. most things are small. some are bigger and make spectacular shows. as long as nobody gets hurt and property is not damaged, we can geek out and enjoy it. >> this was a geeky example. you said this stuff we saw in russia couple of years ago. that crazy meteor that fell to earth. people were injured from glass

breaking et cetera. that's a rarity when it connects. >> it's completely a rarity to have a big event. there does appear, some studies show, an event of regular size happening at a regular rate. a city destroyer happens once per century essentially. the meteor that fell in russia could have been that event for us. we might be in the clear statistically speaking. >> will you come and talk to me again and we can geek out together? this is good stuff. >> there's a big universe out there. it's outrageous. humans are pretty interesting too. >> we're not bad as long as we don't keep messing things up. we'll talk again. thanks for joining us. >> take care. >> very cool stuff. chris? >> it was. i actually understood most which is unusual. >> sort of. you were asking a lot of questions.

>> they had nothing to do with the segment. this is a bringing dialogue. you're going to hear about it today. the soldier, the seal that came out and said i'll tell you what happened with owe osama bin laden. some are saying he should shut up. he says he's the one that killed owe osama bin laden and he wants you to know it. >> we'll take it on, and you judge for yourselves. no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates.

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all right. here's what we know. navy seals put their lives on the line in dangerous and secret missions around the world. the key word is secret. what happens when they come back? >> there's one former navy seal who's speaking out. he says he is the one that killed osama bin laden. he says it's now his duty to tell the 9/11 families about it. >> any time anyone says my brother died or my mom, whatever. the one thing i tell them, osama bin laden died like a [ bleep ]. he died afraid. he knew we were going to kill him. >> he said he died afraid and he knew we were there to kill him. is that valuable for him to be speaking out with that message? i feel like the two of you have strong opinions on this. >> there are different ways of looking at it.

how do you see it? >> there is value about hearing about our brave heroes. we should be proud of them, should talk about it. we talk so much about isis. wouldn't it be helpful to talk about what our brave navy seals do? i know they avoid the limelight. i admire them for that. in terms of national conversation, i want to tell my children what our navy seals do. >> for you it's almost closure, the full circle. >> what he says does offer closure to victim's families. i think it's good to hear he died afraid. i want to celebrate these people. >> i feel you're not on the same page. >> does he have the right to do it? yes. is it right to do it? probably not. here's why. first of all the information you say is important is important. we hear it from the chain of command. whether or not this is classified or not, that gets top his right to do it. we honor them, celebrate them, maybe even exaggerate their

significance because they're different, better. what he did here is not better. as we heard from many members of the military, it's that he is tarnishing his reputation with the people who should matter most to him and what should matter most to him. they have a code about what they do and how they do it. it makes them better. >> i respect that, but i don't think my children know about the seals. >> can we lionize without knowing the details. there's the question are they compromising the mission, compromising the code? >> just getting involved in something where they don't need to be. the propaganda about what they do. >> i worship them for that. >> at the end of the day, osama bin laden is gone. a lot of people can sleep at night. >> i find it satisfying to hear about his last seconds.

i've got to say. >> i do too. i don't know that i do. i don't like the idea of anybody having to lose their life. it gets to a different conversation. we love the seals for a rights reason. we want to see them handle their business the right way. let's get you to the newsroom. randy kay in for carol costello. nice to see you this morning. have a great day. >> "newsroom" starts right now. good morning everyone. i'm randi kaye in for carol costello. thanks for joining me. grab your winter coats. 200 million americans are in the path of a deep freeze striking too early for comfort this year. check out minneapolis, minnesota now. 28 degrees and snowing already. the brutal forecast calls for more than a foot of snow.