war i. the final bloom was planted today. an important day to stop and reflect on the sacrifices that veterans have made for our lives. we honor the dedication of every one of them and every one of them that came before them. "360" begins right now. outrage boils over in mexico over the fate of 43 missing college students. what happened to them and who exactly was involved? demanding proof in the wake of horrific allegations. cnn exclusive investigation tonight, stolen gas. hundreds of gallons of it, paid for with stolen credit cards. it's a scam putting innocent drivers one accident from an explosive and potentially deadly disaster. we begin, though, with the arctic blast that is a huge swath of the country, around 200 million people in its grip tonight. wicked cold winter weather that decided to show up early from the rockies to the heartland,

crushing a relatively mild fall. freezing temperature in northern minnesota, getting slammed with heavy snow, temperatures plunging as far south as oklahoma and the texas panhandle. if you are in the thick of it, you have our sympathies. billings, montana, one of the coldest places you could be tonight. gary tucker is there to report on the misery firsthand. how is it? >> reporter: people of mountant are used to freezing temperature, but not usually this early. we're only in the middle of the autumn. right now, autumn seems like a distant memory. it doesn't matter how cold it is. billings, montana, billboard installer mason hyman does his job. this frigid cold spell has come much earlier than he's used to. >> i wear a little bit of extra layers and i would wear thicker gloves but i kind of need to use my fingers a lot for the j hooks down here. >> reporter: montanans are

hearty people. with the overnight temperatures plunging close to record lows for the date, billings is very empty. >> we just watched the alerts and when it says it's going to be cold, we just bundle up. >> reporter: the average high this time of year is in the upper 40s. the temperature this past weekend was in the upper 60s. temperatures have plunged over 60 degrees in a couple of days. the single digits today, below zero overnight. >> when i moved to montana, my friend told me if you don't like the weather, wait ten minutes. >> reporter: at the zoo, potential visitors don't like the weather much. that's why zoo mountantana is py much empty. except, of course, for its inhas been tants, two siberian tigers just arrived here from sigh beera. this is ozzie, the grizzly bear, former resident of yellowstone national park, who got in hot water for stealing people's food and is thriving at the zoo.

>> the animals are doing just fine because they're used to the cold weather. the canadian lynx, native of montana. the bald eagle at the zoo is actually shivering. we're told that's normal behavior for bald eagles, who are no strangers to cold weather. jeff ewelt is the executive director of the zoo. >> reporter: couple of weekends ago we had our halloween event. 4,000-person day to a three or four-person day is quite a drop for us. >> three or four people you expect on a day like this? >> three or four people. >> reporter: extreme winter weather is here. >> right now i would love to have a buttery croissant. do you have one with you while you're doing this billboard? >> no, i don't. >> reporter: temperatures are expected to remain frigid. >> gary, is that the first interview you've done on a top of ladder standing on a billboard? that was pretty cool. >> reporter: i think it is. you know, i've done interviews

on trains, buses, standing on top, but never a billboard. that's a first. >> how cold is it going to get in the days to come? >> reporter: yeah, so tonight below zero. 5 to 10 below zero, near record low for the date. and then it will warm up a little bit, but it's not expected during the day to go above the freezing mark for the next eight or nine days. how cold is it outside? we wanted to, anderson, do the popular demand, give an encore presentation of a scientific experiment we've done in the past with boiling water in this container, courtesy of the rock creek coffee shop in billings. we're going to turn this into snow. instantaneously when you throw this boiling degree water, it turns into snow. watch. and you can see. that's what happens. one thing i want to say, anderson, a lot of people want to do this at home. never tloi it into the wind. people get hurt. >> i was kind of expecting that to happen to you.

i was sort of worried that would happen. i know you've been standing out there for a while, didn't know if the brain was functioning. yeah. actually completed a science course, i would know how that happens. gary, appreciate that. get in. stay warm. misery loves company. billings has a lot of company tonight. a huge swath of the country getting blasted by this arctic freeze. chad myers joins us now with the bigger picture. chad? >> anderson it's 55 in houston right now and it's 60 in new york city. there's the cold front all the way here. the cold air that gary is in. he will get to 12-below zero, by the way, for gary this evening. it's cold all the way across the upper midwest and placer basin was 26 below. that's montana, not far from where gary is going to be, and not far from the temperatures he's going to see this evening. perspective here. anchorage, alaska, 38 degrees. yuma, arizona, 82. deadman creek, montana, is 16

below zero. 98 degrees colder than yuma, arizona. yeah. and it's snowing. it's been snowing all day in michigan and parts of wisconsin. two feet of snow burying cars in that area. you're going to feel a piece of the cold there in new york and boston and philadelphia, but not the kind of cold air that is going to be bottled up there in montana. high for tomorrow only going to be around 55, 60 degrees. then the cold air comes by and you drop down a little bit. there's good news and bad news. it's not that we're going to see round one be that cold for new york, but round two next week gets colder. like gary said, this is not over by any means. the next ten days over the entire eastern half of the country below normal. look at the high in denver. 6. 6 will be the high tomorrow after morning lows easily below zero there. >> all right. amazing. chad myers, thank you very much. appreciate it. escalating outrage in mexico over 43 missing students and the government's response in their

possible role in their disappearance. violent protests for weeks now to become a political crisis and mexico's president demand for answers have grown the past few days after mexico's attorney general said they believe that the students were kidnapped, executed, dumped in a river, ashes and skeletons dumped in a river. local police had turned the students over to a drug gang at the direction of the town's mayor. those allegations unproven as of yet have added a new fuel to an already explosive situation. rosa flores has the latest. >> reporter: it looks and sounds like a war zone. but it's a clash between student protesters and federal police in the state capital in which a government building was torched. all in response to the disappearance of 43 college students more than five weeks

ago. the situation is very tense right now between the protesters and federal police. now, take a look. on one side of this bridge are federal police officers. they have been firing rubber bullets. on the other side, you've got the protesters. they've been firing back with fire works, rocks. you name it. sticks. and it's not stopping. >> this boiled-over tension, fueled by inconclusive news of the missing. protesters continue to advance. more than 70 arrests have been made, including a mayor and his wife. parents have been told their children are dead and that three other suspects have confessed to the killings, but authorities have not provided conclusive dna evidence and parents refuse to believe that the students are

dead. there's nothing they can do, there's no hope. cnn cameras catch a mob surrounding a police officer with some of the protesters saying leave him alone, leave him alone. police officers are now getting hit from another side. a standoff that would end with police pulling back as protesters move forward. they say at the end of the day they want the 43 alive, back home. >> that seems highly unlikely. rosa flores joins us now. what's next for these families? >> reporter: you know, it's a tough call for these families. they, of course, have said that the only thing that they want right now is their children back. but here is how outrageous and crazy this situation has become, anderson. during that protest, two protesters were allegedly arrested. then the protesters allegedly

kidnapped a police officer and with a human rights group present, they swapped. that gives you a taste of the violence and how the situation continues to escalate. >> the mayor and his wife, the ones who allegedly orchestrated this entire thing, they're still in custody, right? >> they are. they're still in custody. authorities are questioning them. no word on when charges may be dropped -- or charges may be made. and they haven't made a comment. so it's one of the mysteries, because we don't know exactly what they did or exactly why they were detained four days after these students went missing, these people went on the run. and then it took police a while to find them in an abandoned home in mexico city. so, that's one of the big mysteries, and one of the things that people are wondering, what's going to happen to them.

are they actually going to be charged? >> rosa flores, thank you very much. >> a lot ahead in the hour ahead. quick reminder, set your dvr so you can watch "360" any time you like. missouri's governor sounding a warning saying he is ready to send the national guard to ferguson, if needed, as the grand jury wraps up the michael brown case. the gum chewing and shawl incident find president obama and vladimir putin on some common ground. we'll explain, ahead. [ male announcer ] for certain medical conditions where straining should be avoided, colace softens the stool for effective relief from occasional constipation. go to colacecapsules.com for savings.

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missouri's governor said state and local agencies have been, quote, working round the clock if the officer who killed michael brown is not indicted, including the national guard. >> these measures are not being taken because we're convinced that violence will occur, but because we have a responsibility to prepare for any contingency.

the public demands and i demand that. this is america. people have a right to express their views and grievances but they could not have the right to put their fellow citizens and property at risk. violence will not be tolerated. the residents of this region will be protected. >> the grand jury reviewing the fatal shooting of brown is still working on the case, according to the county prosecutor. there has been a lot of belief, rumors have been building that the decision could come any time. we frankly do not know. nobody knows for sure. all along, michael brown's parents have called for peaceful protests. at the height of the public outrage in ferguson after the shooting, they called for calm. ashleigh banfield asked brown's father if he will return to the streets for protest if there is no indictment. here is what he said.

>> we understand that michael is gone. the movement will be that we're trying to make sure that this happens to no one else, that no one else has to feel what we feel. so, yes, the protests will carry on. in a positive manner. >> joibing me now is david clinger, st. louis. also legal analyst and prosecutor sonny hostin. you were surprised of the governor's remarks and tone. why? >> i was shocked at the tone primarily because he said violence will not be tolerated but also said he had 1,000 officers at the ready. sit with that for a moment. 1,000 officers at the ready? we know that police -- this police department is buying riot gear. we know gun sales have been up in missouri 50%. i mean, this is all about police brutality. so, when you take it back to -- or alleged police brutality. when you take it back as to why we're even talking about this,

the governor's response seems to be very inflammatory as opposed to really looking inside of his own state and figuring out what the problem is. >> but wait a minute. >> it seems that the problem is police brutality. >> let me look back on part of that. isn't part of the picture also him trying to assure homeowners, business owners and people in all communities that they're going to be protected? that things are not going to erupt into violence and that the authorities have a handle on it? >> look, we know that the grand jury started august 20th, right? it's been months. there have been very peaceful protests. yes, there was a approximate point when there was some looting and some violence. in my view, the vast majority of the protests have been peaceful and that's our constitutional right. and i think what's surprising is the police response has been very violent. our own don lemmon was pushed around by the police. it seems to be, in my mind, sort of emblematic as to how the

police -- >> are you saying they're not addressing the core issues? >> of course not. >> st. louis county police chief said today, quote, there's a large sense of anxiety out there. do you agree with that? the governor is saying he's ready to send in the national guard. in your opinion, is that the right tone? >> i believe so. i have to disagree strenuously with your first guest. here's why. the governor is not saying we've got 1,000 officers who are lined up who will march lockstep through neighborhoods and knock people's heads in. we have what's necessary for potential protests. from outsiders who came into the community, and people came into the community from not just neighboring areas but from all over the country. there are intelligence folks, i intel units who are identifying where the threats are coming from. there have been multiple death threats against police officers,

other members of our community and so i think it's absolutely appropriate to say, look, we want people to come here and protest. that is guaranteed by the first amendment. guaranteed by missouri statute, so on and so forth, however -- >> david, to sum -- >> -- if people break the law we're not going to tolerate that. >> to sonny's other point, though, do you feel the governor -- what sonny is saying is echoed by a lot of folks i'm following on twitter and in ferguson that the governor is focusing on violence from protesters as opposed to what she believes and others believe are inherent problems in the ferguson police force or institutional problems in the community. >> these are two different issues and they run on parallel tracks. as the folks here in st. louis and the greater region both, you know, here in missouri and across the river in illinois, people have been preparing for the potential for violence, while at the same time, as the governor pointed out, meeting after meeting after meeting with

various constituencies, both here and st. louis region and across the state. and also across the border. you can't fault the governor saying we're going to be prepared while addressing these problems. >> i think certainly we can fault the governor for the way he has handled this from the beginning. there's been a lack of transparency within this process. this is a grand jury process that i have never seen before. >> then you don't know what you're talking about, ma'am. >> i think i do. excuse me. >> this is typical. >> and the community has -- it is not typical. atypical. the community has asked for the governor to appoint a special prosecutor from the very beginning. he refuses to do that. this grand jury process, sir, is very unusual. a grand jury is never given all of the evidence to be looked at over a 90-day period. it's not done because in the grand jury you don't have a judge to decide what evidence would be admissible in court and what evidence isn't. >> i want david to be able to

respond and then we've got to go. >> i've testified before grand juries in the state of texas and in texas every single fatal officer shootings goes before a grand jury. >> in this manner? in this manner? i'm a former prosecutor and i've presented many cases in front of the grand jury. >> just so our viewers -- >> there is no way this is appropriate. >> let's calm down a little bit. >> but there are different states, ma'am. >> sonny, what you're saying is different is the amount of evidence given to the grand jury that, in effect, the grand jury is being kind of -- usually prosecutors pick and choose what they're going to present? >> of course. >> is that what you're saying? >> with the judge. certain things are never admissible at a trial. in front of a grand jury, you never put in every single piece of evidence to overwhelm that grand jury. >> you're saying overwhelming. >> sure. >> couldn't somebody else also argue in the desire for transparency, why not give everything to the grand jury and present them with all the facts? >> the reason that is never done, again, is because when you

overwhelm a grand jury with evidence, some evidence that may not even be admissible -- >> it would not be admissible? >> i want your thought, david, and then we have to go. >> i am not -- i don't know all of the evidence that has been presented before the grand jury, neither does your other guest. for us to argue about the level of evidence that should be before the grand jury -- >> the prosecutor made it very clear he's putting in every single piece of evidence. >> i think that's pointless. we don't know what happens gone before the grand jury. going back to the point, grand juries often times, across the country -- like i said in texas, every single fatal officer involved shooting i'm aware of in texas goes before a grand jury, as it should, so that members of the community can participate in the review to make an assessment about whether the officer behaved appropriately. i don't see how we can argue that. >> that's not correct. >> david klinger and sonny hostin, thank you for being here. placing a shawl on the shoulders of china's first lady so much so that in china the

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president obama is now in asia, trying to focus on foreign affairs, attending the asia pacific economic cooperation summit better known as apec, coming under fire from locals who hate gum. he was caught on camera chewing what's believed to be nicotine gum. chinese bloggers didn't like it, sounding off, calling the president a careless rapper and idler. on live state tv, president putin slipped a shawl over the wife of china's president. she graciously accepted it but slipped it off as an aide offered a coat. >> the gum chewing, this isn't the first time he has gotten called out for chewing gum. >> reporter: that's right, anderson. this is something he has to do to control his past smoking habit and the chinese are just not aware of that. the chinese state media giving him some grief for that.

they also gave him grief for not taking chinese limos to the apec meeting the other night. he will take secret service limos wherever he goes. good headlines they want out of the white house in these trade deals he has been cutting with the chinese president as well. >> a few face-to-face interactions there. what do we know about that? they clearly do not have a great relationship. >> absolutely not. what would it be without a distraction with russian president putin? they met face-to-face about three times, totaling about 15, 20 minutes on the sidelines of this summit, not really a bilateral meeting. they did have a chance to talk about iran, syria and ukraine. >> and the story on putin and the shawl, the image that was apparently censored. >> it was another example, i think, of maybe putin overreach. he put the shawl on the shoulders of chinese first lady

here. she almost immediately took it right off. and that incident created such a stir in chinese social media. they have their own version of social media here. the chinese state government took down those images almost immediately and they realized what had happened here. but vladimir putin does have a knack for drawing attention to himself at these summits and it is something that we may be seeing later on this week, you know. australia is hosting the g-20 summit and president obama and president putin will both be there. of course, we'll all be watching to see whether or not these two leaders have another confrontation. it seems to happen almost everywhere they go where they end up at the same kind of meeting, anderson. >> jim acosta, thanks. susan hendricks joins us with a "360" news business bulletin. >> ceremonies were held in washington and across the country today to mark veterans day. it's to honor the nearly 20 million americans who have served in the u.s. military. the coroner's report says

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welcome back. it's obviously never a good thing when a thief gets ahold of your criminal card number. getting crash from credit card numbers you might not even. they use specially outfitted pumps that look normal from the outside but inside are nothing more than rolling gas tanks. investigation in process watching the crime go down. and, more importantly, the bust of one major ring. investigative correspondent drew

griffin tonight keeping them honest. >> reporter: what you are look at is gas being stolen. police say it's being paid for with stolen credit cards and pumped into a gas tank like you've never seen before. >> there's a stain on the side of the van. he has been seen before. >> multiple six or seven different credit cards in one day. >> reporter: the past year and a half, georgia police department burt ross has been tracking a ring of gas thieves. it's a scheme called pump and dump. across the country, thieves turn stolen credit card numbers into cash by stealing then reselling hundreds of gallons of gas at a time at a discount, to truckers and unscrupulous gas station owners. and the key centers around these specially equipped rigs. >> from the outside it looks like a stereotypical excursion you see every day on the road but this thing has been completely retro fitted with siphoning systems and a fuel

bladder in the back of the truck here. >> reporter: secret service agent who supervises the los angeles task force has been tracking the scam nationally. he says hidden compartments can hold up to 300 gallons of fuel. it's transferred then sent right back into the system. >> looks good. very legitimate delivery. this is what delivers normal gas, not stolen. so you wouldn't think twice about this particular truck being in a lot offloading fuel. >> reporter: you've got two ends of this deal. one guy is stealing the gas and the other guy is knowingly buying stolen gas. >> correct. >> reporter: that's the scam and they're making a lot of money. >> millions. >> reporter: millions? >> millions of dollars. with six trucks, let's say, with 600-gallon tank, fill it twice a day, six days a week, gross profit is close to probably $10 million. >> reporter: the ring being watched by police detective burt ross, is working their scheme just outside atlanta.

here in a suburban gas station, we watch as the suspect with the white van uses one stolen credit card after another to pay for diesel fuel. >> this is definitely one of our primary guys. >> reporter: during his 17 minutes at the pump, the suspect uses two stolen credit cards, four separate transactions, totaling $349 to pay for 95 gallons of diesel fuel. thieves either steal credit card information or buy stolen credit card numbers online then make the cards themselves with machines like these, also easily bought online. back at police headquarters, ross watches the suspected ring leader use stolen credit cards at a gas station as a hidden camera watches. >> this is our primary suspect driving his vehicle into the gas station and pumping diesel into the vehicle, which we suspect has a bladder in the back. he has no idea and, you know, he doesn't seem to care too much

about the fact that that's what he's doing. to the rest of the world, he's just another person pumping gas in his car. >> reporter: surveillance video sh shows the suspect coming back day after day and week after week. detective ross follows other suspected members of this same ring. >> he's moving? okay. which way is he going? he's obviously looking around, a little suspicious, but sees nothing around to worry about. he continues on. >> reporter: the suspicious trucks keep active. >> rolling on it. >> i want to turn back around and take some pictures of that vehicle. don't want to make him too suspicious. one of the suspects right there is outside. there's a van, white van that's back there. >> reporter: sophisticated, organized crime. according to the secret service, everyone involved knows this is illegal. >> and there's no doubt that the quote, unquote, bad gas station owners know they're getting stolen gas? >> absolutely. >> reporter: crooked gas stations buy the fuel for roughly $1 a gallon. truckers in on the scheme in

georgia get a deep discount. >> transporting their fuel all around the state, sometimes outside the state, meeting with truckers, semi truck drivers and they're selling the fuel for about half the price. >> reporter: 18 months after detective ross was tipped off to this ring working in his area, the criminals are about to get an early wake-up call. >> these are our primary suspects. >> reporter: 75 law enforcement officers fan out before sunrise and hit seven locations, including the ring leader's home. jorge garcia ramirez is identified as the boss. inside his house, police say, is evidence of stolen credit cards and a full-time operation. he is the suspect caught on camera at the gas station. >> at this time, we suspect that there's some evidence at this location, that they may be manufacturing the cards.

>> reporter: ramirez has not yet entered a plea to fraud and identity theft. the suspect we saw pumping gas into that white van? police are looking for him. also confiscated what detective ross says are the vehicles used to pump and dump the gas. customized hidden containers. this l-shaped box can hold up to 113 gallons. >> any idea how much money is involved here? >> a lot. they operate five, six days a week, every week, all year long, committing these crimes. and up until now, where they really finally have to pay for what they've done. >> reporter: busting this one ring took 18 months. there's no telling how many still operate across the country, stealing credit card numbers to pump and dump gas. >> so, drew, what are the penalties for a crime like this? >> not enough to keep the criminals from popping up in different places doing this same

scam again and again. in this particular case, ramirez and the others arrested could face up to 18 years in prison for the fraud, forgery, identity theft charges. detective ross says he's seeking additional charges of racketeering and organized crime. those charges are 5 to 20 years each. even these tougher penalties aren't enough to stop this there's so much money involved. unless you get tipped off, as was in this case, or have inside information, it is really easy for criminals to pull this off. >> amazing. drew, thank you very much. >> thank you. no idea about this. coming up, scathing report on a new york clinic treating swroen rivers before her death. we'll talk to dr. sanjay gupta and jeffrey toobin about that. coming up next, "buried secrets: who murdered the mcstay family." and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya?

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81-year-old female scheduled on august 28th, 2014, for an upper en endoscopy to be performed at yorkville endoscopy, matching the date, circumstances and age of the late comedian. the findings include the list of issues during river's procedure, including a staff physician snapping photos of rivers while she was sedated, violating the facility's policy in use of cell phones in any patient areas. cms report quotes that staff member saying maybe patient number one would like to see this in the recovery area. other factual findings include allowing rivers personal emt physician, not a member of the clinic's medical staff, to not only be present during the procedure, but be allowed to perform two invasive medical procedures after rivers was sedated and without her written

consent, all violations of medicare accreditation standards. rivers' vitals were normal at 8:44 am before the procedure began. according to interviews with staff, the procedure began at approximately 9:00 am with rivers sedated. her personal emt physician said i will go first and began to perform an unscheduled procedure, examing with the scope nasal passage ways examining downward. when she announced she couldn't see well, the staff physician began to perform the scheduled endoscopy. rivers' blood pressure had dropped to 84/40 with a pulse of 47. according to the report, the procedure continued. at 9:28 am, rivers' personal physician once again efforted her separate diagnostic procedure. the scope was ultimately removed at 9:30 am with no pulse. paramedics rushed rivers from the clinic to new york's mt.

sinai hospital a mile away. also noted, the staff failed to follow standards of practice for the use of moderate and deep sedation. rivers' weight wasn't measured before the procedure even though a staff member is interviewed as saying patient's body weight is very critical for the preanesthesia assessment. yorkville endoscopy addressed a report in a statement that says, in part, in response to the statement of deficiencies, yorkville immediately submitted and implemented a plan of correction that addressed all issues raised. >> how are you doing, melissa? we're so sorry. >> reporter: lawyers for joan rivers' daughter, melissa, addressed the findings saying miss rivers is outraged by the misconduct and mismanagement now shown to have occurred before, during and after the procedure. now her lawyers melissa is working towards ensuring that what happened to her mother doesn't occur with any other patient. jean casarez, cnn, new york.

>> the question now is could the family and state authorities even take action, legal action against the facility? joining me now, cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin and chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. taking this photo while she's under anesthesia, when i first heard that, i kind of thought there's no way that actually happened but it's in the report. >> it's in the report and, you know, it's a huge breach of professionalism, at a minimum. there are some situations, for example, in teaching hops whereas part of the consent form that a patient will sign ahead of time, if there are particular images where the patient can't be identified. not their face usually but particular images of the operative -- place where the operation is performed could be used for teaching, that could be taken. that's a signed consent ahead of time. maybe she wants to see this in the recovery room. doesn't sound like there's any forethought, certainly doesn't sound like she gave consent. from a professional standpoint it's bizarre. >> we talked about this in september when she died. you said, look, there's the

reality, sometimes 81-year-old people die and it's not the doctor's fault. this seems to give joan rivers' family huge ammunition for a civil lawsuit. >> the huge answer to that is not yes. it's oh, yes. this is a giant invitation to, at least, a malpractice lawsuit by joan rivers' estate against yorkville endoscopy but it is also -- really raises questions about whether they will keep their accreditation to continue practicing at all or whether patients will continue to go there. i guarantee you that if this case went to a trial, sure, the medical problems would be -- the problems with the treatment would be disclosed. but the one thing all the jurors would say to their families when the trial was over was, can you believe they actually took pictures of her without her permission? that fact is just overwhelming. >> sanjay, they failed to identify her deteriorating vital signs. it seems like such a basic,

obvious, and important thing. >> i think celebrities sometimes don't get very good treatment. i know that's a blanket statement. >> we've seen this before in the past. >> whether they were recognized, whether they thought they weren't that serious, they could control the vital signs, control the problem, even if a little bit of time had pass ed or what exactly they were thinking may be impossible to know for sure. even if they had recognized a problem at the time that one of the doctors had a scope, endoscope actually in her throat down into her esophagus. it doesn't sound like the medications that could have really helped correct this problem were readily available. what happens in a situation like this, the larynx literally starts to spasm. when the larynx spasms, you can't move any air. there's only a couple of ways to fix that problem, give a medication that relaxes the larynx. it's not clear that that medication, which is typically on a crash cart, sort of a

resuscitation cart, was even available. or at least not readily available. that's a problem. so, even if it had been recognized, i'm not sure it would have necessarily solved the problem. >> go ahead. >> i just wanted to, you know, agree with something that sanjay said that applies in the legal system as well as the medical system. celebrity makes people crazy. you know, sometimes they get treated more harshly. sometimes they get treated more leniently. it just throws the system off. here again, you had her personal doctor being allowed to participate, even though there was no -- >> right. >> -- permission given. they just went out of their way to treat her differently and, obviously, the results were disastrous. >> jeff toobin, appreciate you being honest. dr. sanjay gupta, thanks. the ridicu-list is next. rn n you buy and again as you pay.

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time now for the ridicu-list. traffic scandal in fortley, new jersey. this isn't about the lane closures but a separate incident where dozens of people were

ticketed in a decoy program to find drivers who don't yield to pedestrians. >> country -- i got a ticket because i didn't stop for a pedestrian. it was a huge duck. it was scary. >> a very large, scary duck. apparently someone thought it was good for a police officer to go undercover as donald duck in the crosswalk safety program. this was actually on halloween. it sort of makes sense. there he is. some drivers, though, feel tricked and now this woman wants to duck out of the ticket. she might say she doesn't want to pay her bill. thank you very much. >> it scared me. it was a huge duck. if it was a normal person or even a cop dressed as a normal person, i would have stopped. i think all those people would have stopped. >> number one, the cops dress as normal people all the time. because they are normal people. but what was so scary about donald duck? i don't quite understand it. the police chief says the duck defense doesn't hold water. the number of people getting hit

by cars is going down but he wants the number to be zero, even if it means putting the duck in reduction. >> when you see a pedestrian, whether it's a young child, whether it's an adult, even if it's a seven-foot duck, stop, let the pedestrian cross safely and then proceed with your day. >> seven-foot duck, okay. maybe that is a little scary. i didn't realize the duck was seven feet. i thought maybe 5'6", 5'7". that's pretty scary. i don't want to see the minnie mouse prostitution sting. that's coming next. this isn't the first time a costume character has been used in an undercover safety demonstration exercise. police officer dressed up like an elf. first of all, that is the narliest looking elf i've ever seen, a gnome on meth is what that looks like. dressed like an elf to hand out tickets to drivers who didn't

yield. i've got it say thee talkie may have clued everyone in that this wasn't an actual elf. gnomes probably do. go ahead and stop no matter who is in the crosswalk. how about that? as a matter of policy, don't duck your responsibilities as driver and just yield to the ridicu-list. that does it for us. cnn special report "buried secrets: who murdered the mcstay family" hosted by randi kaye, starts now. >> there's the house. >> this is the house? >> reporter: once a cold case. >> whoever did this to the family had this well planned out. >> reporter: a family of four vanishes from their home in suburban san diego. no sns