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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. >> this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. if you are lick ke me you are h a lot of questions for the man who want from the last supper to the menonite chicken farm in an hour. micro, chicken taster and host of someone has got to do it. that was a great show. you were under ape l lot of pree in the taste test. it's just you and me now, did the green circle chickens really taste that much better? >> yeah, they do. but after you spend a day with the woman who is basically raising them, and suddenly find yourself in a menonite kitchen
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in pennsylvania dutch country and the entire represent tags of her business is depending upon your blindfolded self accurately identifying the proper bird. stakes are high. >> stakes are high. you did a good job. i have to till you though, just today, beaver i came to work, i had a passing moment with poultry. while driving on the highway, this truck. look, filled with turkeys, drove past. weeks away from thanksgiving. i felt so bad for the birds. i put it on social media. some people were saying, hey, i hope they are free range. poor babies. what makes the green circle chicken so een so tasty, fancy free range living? >> it's not exactly either one. the thing about the cost of a chicken. by the way the chickens are expensive. the average chicken is $1.50 a pound. $8 a pound. if you do the math, essentially, a chicken is a reflection of the
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cost of the food you feed it. so these chickens eat like kings. they dine on food scraps from five of the best restaurants on the planet. so they're kind of spoiled. they also -- live a lot longer. they got about 75 days on the earth before they hop in that truck you saw. and so for a lot of reasons, they, they taste better. but -- look, i had a 50/50 shot in the taste test. i am glad it fell the right way. >> from the best restaurants. bordain chickens or something. >> i can put you in touch. i am sure anthony would be flattered. >> i have to ask you about this next story, okay. you know what happened today in manhattan. you tried about every job out there. including high-rise window washer, doing dirty jobs. watch this clip. then we'll talk. >> okay, mike, this looks like the tricky part. and it is. just slowly. i just want-up to kind of jump
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down. crawl down. you do one foot in your chair. >> i can't see it stand straight up. bring the hand down to the ropes. ease yourself over the wall. feet in the chair. get both legs through. or you will be stuck. there you go. there you go. oh, crap. i watch that when it actually aired the first time. i am asking you because, today two window washers were trapped on a scaffold after a cable snapped at one world trade center. everyone really stopped in their tracks to watch this today. the window washers were take tine been to bellevue hospital treated for
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mild hypothermia. why do they take the jobs? >> look. first of all. a good job. an important job. it has got to be done. you can actually make a great living. the guy i worked withen hawaii, his name was dino. he h -- he's got contracts on every high rise there. that's the way they do it. you sit on a 2 x 4. in the 48 they use scaffolds. doesn't make a difference if the you are stuck like the guys are. you are helpless in a scaffold. when you are stuck in a chair it is a little different. because you really have the tools with you that a, that a mount near would have. so it is just -- just a different way of approaching the same basic job. but when things go side ways, there is no getting around it. you are, you are trapped. you are helpless. and suddenly the whole world is staring at you. which is ironic. because window washers typically
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have the most fascinating views of things going on inside the buildings. >> that, they were almost 1776 feet up. they were about. 2/3 of the way up. were you up that high? >> we were at about. we were at the top of the building. the building is 500 feet. the guys were higher, 650, 700. something like that. >> let's move on now. finally, you know, your show, you re-created the painting "the last supper." an interesting makeup. >> thank you. >> how was that? >> the makeup is cadaver gray. in case anybody asks you. but the pageant of the masters, so much fun that day. the people who bring these works of art to life. one of the coolest ways to make it accessible. they sl out in the summer.
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2600 people show up at the festival of arts center in laguna beach. i got to play bartholomeaw. i didn't have any lines. held still for 90 seconds. harder than it sound. still, you know? an honest job. >> yeah, always fidgeting around. thought i could be part of re-creating a famous painting with you. so i chose michaelangelo. look at us. i think -- >> how come you. one of these things is not like the other. >> what are you trying to say? >> how come i'm that -- well, nothing. you look good, don. >> thank you. >> you look fantastic. >> you look pretty good too. >> i should turn this way. >> this got a little weird. >> this is very, very weird i will look to see this on the blogs tomorrow. suddenly you and i are in a relationship or something. thank you, micrke rowe.
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>> thank you, don lemon. >> the grand jury is about to hear crucial testimony in the case of the shooting death of michael brown. will it all come done to forensics? we'll talk about that. plus the town that canceled christmas. not exactly. but they're not calling it christmas anymorph anymore. we are going to till you why. the picture breaking the internet. has kim kardashian gone too far this time? military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.
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>> welcome back. the grand jury that will decide whether to indict darren will sorn in the shooting death of michael brown could come down with a decision days from now. and evidence from competing autopsies will make or break the case. will the jury believe the findings from the first awe temperature see condu-- autopsy the second aqueste second autop.
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joining me, forensic pathologist dr. ceril wecht. appreciate you joining us. let's talk about dr. boden, testifying in front of the grand jury, hired by michael brown's family to do a second autopsy. is this unusual hired by the victim's family to testify in front of the grand jury? >> in high profile controversial cases, it's not. it is done i would say with frequency in most cases that does not happen. it costs money. and it's too, too complicated. >> so there were three autopsies in total. the first by the st. louis medical examiner. dr. bodin's -- baeden's. as we have talked about, autopsies are somewhat invasive.
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does each lose integrity? >> yes. it is much preferable to do the first autopsy. however with gunshot wound if they have been properly designated and assuming they have not been cut out, then, you are able to identify the wounds. trace the trajectories. sure that was done. no question, second, third autopsy would have been compromised. i have reviewed the first awe temperature s autopsy in detail. i have a much clearer picture how michael brown was positioned than i had when i spoke with you some weeks ago. >> what are you saying, sir? >> well, this is interesting. we know that the two shots in the head were downward. remember we talked about this. one on the top. central forehead. straight down. exited from the jaw.
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the two wounds in the chest, both have a some what downward trajecto trajectory. one -- pretty much in the middle of the chest. one a little bit to the right side. and then some were downward, not quite as much as the head wounds. what is interesting, the two wounds, entrance wounds, the exit wounds of the arm. on the right arm, we have a wound on the forearm that enters in the back and exits in the front. the upper arm. bullet from the back. into the front. you are hired, like this. bullet. forearm. entering hearing. exiting here. the bullet in the upper arm. entering hearing. the arm has to have been held in this position. and that means that, the arm --
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in this position, with a slightly upward trajectory. therefore, that arm had to have been in, in a position like this. with the bullets coming in and -- moving slightly upward. the bullets in the head downward. michael brown was shot in the arm -- while he was standing with his arm in this kind of a position. and then, as he was falling, the two shots came in to the head and to the forehead. >> okay. >> if those shots had come before the arm then the arm would not have been. >> let me ask you something. that's not hand up. does that tell you anything? >> that now is subjective interpretation. the hand is in this position.
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is it defensive. i would say -- it doesn't seem to be offensive. then you have also a grazing wound of the biceps area on the right arm. then you also have a wound now which we're told on the right thumb. if you were there and testifying. would you say that is a surrender position. he was hand up. i'm surrendering. you're saying that is not so. >> no. au contraire. i am saying it fits in with the hands up like this. the right arm. the bullet enters back of the forearm, exits in the front of the forearm. the bullet in this position enters on the upper arm in the front exits in the back. is that an offensive position. >> how would the grand jury interpret the information-up are telling us right now? >> well, i never bet a plug
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nickel on any jury. and a grand jury which is of course influenced and -- controlled by the district attorney, you know the old saw, that any district attorney that can't get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich isn't worth very much the i am not going to predict. i will predict this is not based on forensic science. this is based on 52 years of dealing with this and shootings. the grand jury is not going to indict the officer in this case. >> because? because there will be enough information to suggest that michael brown was aggressive. that he was lunging at the police officer. that the police officer felt imminent threat of his life or well being. before you get into the racial issue. i didn't intend on having you in the next conversation.
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will you listen. i may need you to weigh in. stand by, dr. cyril wecht. bring in a police officer, and author of into the kill. and van jones is here. and cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director, tom fuentes. tom, what do you think what he just said? >> i think what it sound like. there is going to be enough confusion that even if officer wilson is indicted and charged. a low threshold. the problem is going to be, that there is so much doubt now that to convict officer wilson of -- of whatever. and improperly killing michael brown to constrict him beyond a reasonable doubt. there is going to be a lot of reasonable doubt. reasonable differences. in how the forensic evidence is interpreted. there are contradictory eyewitness statements. we keep hearing there is
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unanimity. there isn't. i heard many accounts from eyewitnesses. what was going on at the time of the shootings. david clinger as you heard that? >> i basically concur. the notion of reasonable doubt is there. we have to wait for information. about blood evidence and the vehicle. that is very important. generally if some one ills just coming at a police officer, the police officer is not permitted to shoot. there has to be something about the nature of the movement that would indicate imminent jeopardy of his or her life. consequently. there is an awful lot out there that needs to, a awful lot behind the door that need to come out. before i or any one can opine about what may or may not have happened. >> i want to got your response? i realize you are not law enforcement. what do you think of what the doctor says? >> i'm an attorney, from a law
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enforcement family. a little insight here. what was striking to me, shocking to the average viewer at home, to hear some one with his level of expertise say, as best he can read the evidence, it is consistent with the idea that he was not in an offensive posture, a defensive posture and shot in the arm, fell forward got shot in the head. that's what people have been saying. that's why this thing blew up. that its shocking. there is an acceptance of a level of corruption or cynicism within this law enforcement agency. that even with -- good evidence. he still does not. >> van, is dr. wecht there listening. doctor. i don't want to put words in your mouth. comment on this.
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what dr. wecht is saying. considering all the evidence. not just evidence of what he talked about. trajectory of the bullets all that and stance. kidding what happened in the car. considering what happened in the car. what led up to it. everything else. there will be enough evidence of aggression. that the officer plus this. that the officer will not be indicted. is that correct, doctor. >> may i comment. that's not my vote. i was asked what do i think is going to happen. if i were on the grand jury i would vote for indictment. this boy was shot eight times. i'm not going to go through the trajectories again. wearing short pants and a t-shirt. no i would vote for indictment. i want to make it clear. if i have to place a bet, buying you a cup of coffee on the other side of the bet. tomorrow, i bet you, that they will not indict. and that's. >> so what van is saying then is correct. van's assessment in your estimation is correct then?
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>> well, well, yes. because the way the public reacts to police and police shootings. they just bend over very far. a subject for discussion another day. right, i am just telling you what i have experienced in all of my, years, decades of police shootings. not only as coroner. it takes a great deal to indict an officer. and i don't want to make this into a racial issue. when the officer is white and the victim is african-american, then it is a little easier for the jury to not indict. >> that is why. >> can i -- >> that is why people are upset. here you have a white coroner doing this for decade. he is saying the very same thing that people in ferguson on the ground saying there is a double standard and that's why people are upset. >> who want to comment? david. >> i am just curious for dr. wecht, you didn't talk about the
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shots to the chest. correct me if i am wrong. is it not possible he received shots to the chest, and hands came up after he was shot in the text. and took a round to the arm and a respond to the head. my understanding from what you are telling the audience the only way it could possibly have happened is that his hand were up in surrender possession or some position i couldn't see because i didn't have access to a screen. is it not possible the arm came up after the rounds to the chest hit him? >> beth shots oth shots to the a downward trajectory. >> therefore he has to once again be bent over. he was 6'5." and the officer was 6 or 6'1. for the shots to have downward trajectory. he has already got to be moving some what downward for that to occur. >> all i am asking you, sir, are you confident the shots to the arm were the first shots that hit. he was bent over. shot in the chest. the arm came up and he was shot
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that way. >> quick answer. >> very quickly. the shots in the arm both have an upward trajectory. if he is going down, you see and then he gets shot, the bullets hitting in the arm are not going to be moving upward. they would be moving downward. some what similar to the shots that struck him in the head. so, i am just giving you my interpretation of the wounds of the head and of the chest of the arm. and the sequence in terms of what would have happened. and the fatality that, lethality of wounds and ability to continue to move with other wounds that would not have led to collapse. >> fascinating conversation. wish i had all evening to speak about it. unfortunately limited time. sorry you didn't get to sfekpea lot. great to hear, once we see the evidence and hear the officers side of the story. that's what everyone is waiting for. to see exactly what happens in this case. so, we'll move on. you know there is lots of analysis here on cnn. most analysis we have had from any media outlet.
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van, have to ask you before we go. the man they call the architect of obama care, mit economist, jonathan gruber blasting what he called, quoting here, the stupidity of the american voter. he said in october of last year. the video just surfaced. here it is. >> the lack of transparency, huge political advantage. and basically, call stupidity of the american voter or whatever. that was basically really critical to getting anything to pass. >> van? >> yes. >> what do you have to say for your party? >> well, listen. first of all those comments, he has already apologized for -- obviously that is terrible. let's say very clearly. what he is trying to point out is something that neither republicans or democrats want to be caught saying. they say in this town. in washington, d.c. they say it every time. all day long. how is this going to play politically? what does that mean? how can we make this thing we
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want to do on the right or on the left, palatable to people back home. they don't always talk about is the policy right? wrong? that's 20%. going to tell you. and, they can take me away from here. 80% of the conversation in this town. republicans, democrats how will this play? how can we manipulate voters? >> van. >> he got caught. >> got to go. what do you think? think of it, support, or outraged, not shocked. what is your reaction? >> listen, i think, that, it is a horrible thing for him to have said. i actually don't think it is accurate. i think, after you look ate. not accurate. i will say this, for republicans and democrats, need to fess up. there is a lot of manipulation that goes on in this town. >> we'll talk more. we got to go. we gets to go, as we say. thank you very much. van jones. van jones and the rest of my panel. we'll talk more about the comments ape little bit more. of next, why one school board is taking christmas and every other religious holiday off its
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seeing christmas on the calendar anymore or any other religious holiday matter of fact. schools will be closed. christmas vacation for example will be called winter break. this action was taken after muslim parents asked that schools be closed for an islaming holiday. the board did not grant that request. joining me now is the co-chair of equality for e coalition. reverend norman gordon, reverend norm, associate pastor for a presbyterian church. phillip kaufman. president of the school board. patricia neil is vice president of the school board. thank you for joining us. you petitioned montgomery county school board to add a day off to school calendar for the important holiday. they opted to remove the names of the holidays but not add any more days off. do you think that is a bad decision? >> it doesn't make any sense. it is out of touch, insular. the way they did it was, really
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condescending. what they did is they said that -- they're going to remove, what they said, they said, tried to dressdress it up as an inclu move. keep the schools closed on those days and this is an inclusive move. but in reality, it is a way to continue the exclusion, of the muslim holidays. >> okay. you heard what he said. why just remove the holidays. what was the thinking behind that? >> well, as you indicated it was not so much removing the names of the holidays, it was removing the names of the holidays from the calendar that is put out that shows what are the days that we are off for. we are still off for all of those same holidays as before. we do include all religious
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holidays on our comprehensive calendar. >> distinction without a difference. >> it does sound like a distinction without a difference. >> we include all references to all holidaysen our calendar. we remove days consistent with what occurs in most other school systems that we looked at. we are going to do the same presentation as new york city, los angeles, miami, hillsboro, this area, fairfax county. loudon, city of alexandria baltimore. >> fairfax doesn't close for yom kippur. >> and all those communities, show -- >> they don't close for the same days which you are claiming, phil. >> they close for christmas and they close for in the, during the week of easter, and --
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>> let him finish his statement. i will let you go. >> i am saying that they close those days for winter break and spring break. the calendar where we put out that we name the days is the calendar shows why are we off on those days. under state law we are, mandated. we are closed for christmas. it is mandated we are closed for the day before easter. and the day after, our good friday and the day after easter. >> very simple answer to the question. >> required by state law. >> lot me ask you, mr. president, all due respect. you didn't grant what they asked? didn't grant the day off for the muslim holiday. >> we did not. and for next, and for next year, the muslim holiday falls on the same day as yom kippur. it is not an issue of granting the day off. >> why change it to winter break then? >> it is such a meal yymouthed
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explanation. why change it to winter break. everyone says we're off. >> the reason why is they want to exclude muslims from oequal treatment in montgomery. they're trying to hide the exclusion by trying to remove the names of other holidays. nobody is buying that a awe we get it. pastor, do you think this sends a bad message to students. why do you believe that? >> first what i would look to say, god bless you, mr. kaufman, ms. o'neal, in montgomery county schools, you have done a great job of education for my three girls. thank god for you. there was an unintended message shift in this departure from know man clay -- nomanclature, to faith tradition doesn't
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belong in the public sphere. i sympathize with mr. ali, i have three girls, my girls in montgomery county public schools. they have gotten the subtle message in the schools that it is not okay to bring up their own faith traditions. so while this is a small and subtle change. it begs the question, what is the role of faith in my child's education? i would loike to think there is more opportunity t if my daughter responded to a story, would she feel afraid to say this remind me of the story of joshua in my bible. >> stand by. i want to read. this is patricia, o'neal, vice president and phillip kaufman. this is the statement that, that the council on american islamic relations said. we are disappointed the school board would take drastic measures to deny fair and equitable treatment for, for the county significantly large muslim population.
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there is no justice in robbing the christian and jewish communities of their holiday to deny muslims equal accommodation? do you feel, patricia, you are robbing christian and jewish communities of their holidays? >> absolutely not. you know, we are a very diverse community. we have 154,000 students in the montgomery county public schools. i am a christian. a graduate of southern methodist university. i take my faith very seriously. i believe that my role as a parent is where my faith belongs in instructing my daughters. i do not believe we are showing any disrespect to the christian or jewish community. we will still be closed. and our winter break is actually a better definition for the period of closure from december 24th through january 1. which is mandated by state law. >> can i say something?
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>> i don't have time. i would love to talk more. we have limited time. i only have an hour to get everything in. appreciate it. phillip kaufman. patricia o'neal. norman gordon. thank you. best of luck the we know bill mahr not one to hold his tongue. taking on democrats over their crushing losses in the midterm elections what he had to say and debate it next. ♪ (dad) there's nothing i can't reach in my subaru. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru,a subaru. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good.
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>> it is never a good idea to call american voters stupid. a lesson that an architect of obama care is learning after video surfaced this week of his comments from a year ago. joining me now, contributor at the blaze tv. and cnn political commentator. and cnn political commentator. i want to get your reaction to something that we played earlier in the show. economist, jonathan gruber, one of the obama care administration consultants. made controversial statements about a year ago about how the administration was able to pass affordable care act. here it is.
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>> this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure cbo did not score taxes. and lack of transparency, a political advantage. basically call it stupidity of the american voter or whatever. basically that was really, really critical to get anything to pass. >> is that any way to talk to the american voter on a critical issue? how to pay for health care? >> that is exactly, the obama administration thinks about the american voter. behind closed doors at least. he said the truth. he told the truth. look, they didn't want anybody to know it was, nancy pelosi said. we won't know until we pass it. they knew if they could just sit there and slam it down people's throats, and deal with it, fallout afterward. they could pass this thing. remember, barack obama ran on transparen transparency. we'll put on cspan, how it is made. never made it to cspan.
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this is the ugly truth. democrats want to know why they lost. this is why. >> you are not upset by your tone? >> i think it is reality. >> tara, what do you think? >> this is the epitome, of arrogance, i am smart r than you, average person is too stupid. we as bureaucrats. government elites are going to come in and tell you how to live your life. the american people should be insulted. this was not a transparent process. they were, they, you know when they palssed obama care on new year's eve. wee hours of the night. no transparency in the process. for the gentleman to come out, say, not once, not twice. there are three video. three occasions when he made comments to this extent calling the american people too stupid. you know the problem taking $400,000 of american taxpayer money to advise on obama care. it's insulting.
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ben is right. this is how they feel. how progressives feel about the average american. >> i was on capitol hill during that. >> that's right. >> i was on capitol hill during that. i rim bar emember it all. >> mark? >> i wouldn't say they deceived the american people. i think there is clearly lack of transparency. what he speck oke to. that is dangerous. problematic. and a deep cynicism, many politicians have. we saw it with the patriot act. in 2001. obama care now. an assauumption if you bury stu deep enough. people and politicians. >> that doesn't make it okay. >> no. remember i began from the premise saying it is problematic. let me finish. i didn't interrupt either of you. there is a difference between saying, a cynicism about tax approximately see a approximately -- policy and
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saying the am scerican people dt want obama care and it is not a good policy for the american people the i am not excusing bad behavior. let's not mix apples and oranges >> well have to move on. i want to talk more politics here. bill maher never afraid to speak his mind. gave an interview to the clarion ledger in mississippi. he had this to say about the political parties. he said you know the republicans are bad. the democrats are no prize either with this kind of bs. where is their big vision for america. it some how got lost in the weed of political correctness. have democrats lost their way? and accepted political bs. >> yes, absolutely. listen, bill maher whether you agree or not. i disagree with him on a lot of things oftentimes. i agree with him 100% on this aspect. political correctness is going to be the death of this society. work place violence instead of
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terrorism. wlufr th what happened in england, that awful child sex abuse case in england where they wouldn't, they wouldn't describe the ethnicity of the perpetrators allowed this to go on for 16 years they were afraid of being called racists. this is a complete totalitarian attack on the thought and honesty in this country. and it is out of control. >> bill maher doesn't feel bad for the democrats post midterm. he said he feels bad for americans. he says. who needs some one to represent the common man and unfortunately are going to be even more bereft in that matter. is washington so polarized right now that we really can't have a conversation and there is so much political correctness that people, as tara said are afraid of being called racist, biased. bigoted. >> funny, bill maher tries to separate himself. bill maher was selling political correctness for the democratic
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party. >> his show was politically incorrect. what it's called. >> look what he is doing in jackson. actually helping raise money for the democratic party of mississippi. don't act like you are not a part of this. you are one of the guys on your show every single week doing exactly what you are claciming. >> he does call out. a point. he is raising money. he calls them out. democrats out. >> after he loses. >> you don't watch the show. >> i do watch his show. >> he called democrats, out on the muslim issue, getting flak. >> called people out on the radical islamist terrorism aspect. not defending bill maher. >> more on the other side. mark, sorry didn't get you in. get you in on the other side. two seconds. quick. hurry. mark? >> i can wait. >> you can wait. >> no, if, ands, butts, about it. kim kardashian's latest magazine cover is causing a stir.
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the democrats is epitome of political correctness run amok. you feel what? >> i disagree. i think this is about being reasonable. often times people say, i don't want to have to be politically correct. what they mean is i want the freedom to say. ethnocent rick, racist, homophobia stuff. bill maher wants to criticize isis, and islam, that's what people have been criticizing him for. >> this is america. you have freedom of speech. thought police need to stop. not saying everything, you are honest, makes you a racist. >> i can disagree with your thoughts. >> yes. >> yes, you can. >> if the internet is broken. blame this magazine cover. it is the hash tag, to break the internet. a photo of kim kardashian's boo-tay.
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>> is this too much? >> yes. this is capitalism. this is the kardashian empire doing what they do best, be provocative, draw attention. they have nothing else to offer. she became famous through a sex tape. her assets made her famous. do i think it's good? no, tacky, classless. it's her prerogative to do it she she made lots of money. >> here's what the "glee" actress commented on the account. i normally don't, but you're some one any mother. >> go ahead. >> oh, god. >> that's what i hate. >> is this too much? >> did you say is this too much? you want to think about that for a second. yes, yes, it is too much. in all areas, it is too much. >> it is cool -- >> see, there's the problem. >> talking bill maher. >> i have been thinking for a long time.
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when did we become fascinated by butts. bootie did not used to be fashionable. >> jennifer lopez. >> whole another world. >> let me be clear. an area of expertise. >> i didn't know you had a big old butt. >> wow, wow, that just happened. >> black folks been celebrating big -- forever. at some point. white people became obsessed with it. getting butt shots. and now -- second to ben's point. second to been's point. that's too much butt. there is no such thing. we have to be careful about, policing black and brown body, you have standard what is too much? >> i didn't say that. the size of her butt was too big. >> hold on. >> one more thing. >> hold on. wait a minute. mr. postman. one at a time. i got ten second. hurry. >> let me say this. i swear to you, mark, when i saw the picture, race never came
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into my mind. when i saw that picture. this has nothing to do with race. >> it is about race. >> it's not about race. >> it's about class. it's about why do you need to expose your behind to be famous? what message does this send to little girls. talk about body conscious. and then you wonder why you have 6-year-old girls twerking and shaking their behinds. >> mark, got to say this. mark, too much booty in the pants. see youlater. we'll be right back. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup.
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>> i don't know about you. this is a show i am watching. good night. good evening. thank you for joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news in turkey where three u.s. navy sailors were assaulteden broad day light by a group of men shouting anti-american slogans. it happened in istanbul. all caught on video. yelling yankee go home. and anti-american slogans. they threw red paint at the sailors and put bags over their heads. you can see the alarm in the sailors' faces. caught them entirely off guard. they eventually did get away. they were on shore leave. they were not ev i
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