without removing the syrian president bashar al assad. >> but a member of the national security team is pushing back on report saying any review is part of ongoing discussions. all this as defense secretary and chairman of the joint chiefs prepare to testify this morning at a house hearing on isis. cnn is following developments, what's the latest, elise? >> well alisyn, president obama said for years that president assad of syria should go. until now hasn't linked his ouster to the campaign against isis. now the president and his advisers coming to the realization you're not going to defeat isis without a plan to get rid of him. the administration had hoped to go after isis in iraq first and then take on syria. after the syrian rebels are trained to go after isis and then assad. but with developments on the ground, the opposition could be obliterated by the time the u.s.

pivots from iraq back to syria i'm told by several officials there have been multiple meetings at the nsc in the last week focused on syria. secretary of state kerry is trying to get everyone from allies from russia to iran to a political road map. we're not talking about a military strike to get rid of him. i'm told there's talk about expanding the train-and-equip program coming up for the rebels. the white house is pushing back on the idea of a formal review. take a listen to deputy national security adviser ben rhodes. >> there's no formal or strategy review of our syria policy. what there is, is a strategy for degrading and ultimately destroying isil that requires us to take a hard look at what we're doing on a regular basis. we've had regular meetings that the president has joined with his national security team on

this issue. and syria has been an important subject at those meetings. >> so call it a calibration, call it a review. one official called it a quote vigorous assessment. i think there's a realization they need to rethink how right now there is no linkage between the syria strategy and the wider strategy to get rid of isil or isis as we call it. but the administration has the same old problem of needing to work with the opposition that's in disarray. this is going to take a lot of time, alisyn. >> thanks so much for breaking it all down for us this morning. let's go over to chris for more. it takes more time, alisyn when you don't know what your objectives are. i can hear senator john mccain screaming from his bed somewhere, i told you, i told you. let's bring in general mark hertling, a cnn military analyst. former commander for europe and the seventh army. thank you for joining us on new day. i'm only half joking about senator john mccain, he's been

saying this forever, you can't take on the bad guys in syria without taking on the big bad guy, bashar al assad. >> i think you're right, i liked your impersonation of senator mccain, chris, what i would say is what we are seeing is the recalibration of the strategy. no plan survives first contact with the enemy. we've learned a lot. the united states has learned a lot in the last two months as we've gone after isis. we've had some very good successes, some points of confusion. the campaign in syria specifically. while we've dropped bombs on isil targets in syria, we've seen that that has in fact enabled the assad regime to continue their fight with more robustness against the free syrian army. you always have to recalibrate when you're in contact and conducting these kinds of things, we've learned a lot from

general john allen, high good friend who has gone around the region, and his talk with allies, you've got a complex situation not only with the ally, but with the states around syria and iraq, you have to consider that as you bring together a coalition. >> is recalibrate too nice a word to describe this? about a year ago i sat across from president obama and he said let's see what is going to happen with syria now that we're learning about what assad may or may not have done with his own people and chemical weapons. a few days later he said i'm going to bomb assad and we're going to get him out of there. congress didn't want to did it, nobody wanted to do it. fast-forward a year, we don't want to do that, but remove him by some other means, and we're going to use iran and use russia, and get them on the same page when they support assad and don't want anything to do with us. this sounds like crazy talk. >> and even some of the leaked reports about what's being considered, i don't think there's been any statements about removing assad.

think there has been situation where we've said we may need to do things differently as we've seen some successes in iraq and things are beginning to generate momentum. perhaps what we're doing in syria is not the best way to approach isil in syria. it has nothing to do with assad. i think we're leaping to conclusions that suddenly we're about ready to take out a brutal leader in this state. but i think one of the things we've got to consider and i think this is always on the president's mind, we've seen over the last ten years when you conduct regime change and you've taken out leaders, of countries, boy, you better be ready to put somebody in in their place. right now there is no leader in syria. that we could see that could take assad's place. so i think as we continue with this campaign, that's got to be at the top of the list. and again using your impersonation of senator mccain and what he wants to do, i'm not sure that's the smartest way to go about this. and we'll probably see a lot

more of that during committee meetings this morning with secretary hagel and general dempsey. >> help us conclude here with exactly what we're talking about. because the reporting is that recalibrating, maybe assad is part of the problem. and that we have to deal with that. what does it mean? if you're not going to take him out militarily and if you're not going to really push for regime change, certainly not with iran and russia, who are arming and actively helping the guy, what could you do? what's even a possibility? >> well, if i'm a military commander in some of these pc and d.c. meetings with the national security team. what i'm suggesting is our objective, our strategy is to defeat isil. that's got to remain the focus. that is our end-state, to have isil no longer existing. we're again having some gains in iraq. some things have happened over the last couple days that seem like we're generating some momentum. but then when you look at syria and you say hey, we've been going after isil targets in

syria that's only emboldened mr. assad to go after his other opponents, because we're basically taking on one of his opponents. so we may have to adjust how we go after isil in syria. what we do. and as you know, chris, it's been a lot more difficult to vet before we even get to training some of the free syrian army. we've got to find out who the people are that will actually fight and there's an ebb and flow within any terrorist organization about who's joining which and how they gain recruits. we're going to have to break through that. and that's going to be extremely difficult. >> boy, this is a good time to be on the sidelines. general, although we need good men like you helping us make the right decisions on the ground as well, general mark hertling, thank you very much. just the truth, sir, thank you for the perspective. we have a rare look into how isis is luring young western recruits. we have new details about how the terrorists solicited three denver teenagers. cnn's justice correspondent,

pamela brown, has all the disturbing details. >> cnn has learned hardened jihadists currently fighting with isis overseas had direct contact with three denver teens. 15 and 17-year-old sisters and their 16-year-old friend. using social media to lure them to jihad. >> these were role models to them, people they could be in contact with. and social media which is immediate and being used as a recruiting platform. >> some of the recruiters were westerners fighting in syria they were encouraging the girls to join isis, giving them a road map, how to go from denver to syria and link up with the brutal terrorist group. >> they can interact in real-time with other people through tweets, and this is very immersive to them. >> in october, the teens made it halfway to syria before they were stopped by authorities in frankfurt, germany. after the teens didn't show up for school, their parents

alerted authorities, who found a treasure trove of information on the teen's social media profiles. >> it's literally a case study of radicalization through the internet. >> the site intelligence group tracks international terrorists and analyzed the teen's online activity. >> the same goal that was asked one day, how many hours of music you listen to in a daily basis and she used to say -- i don't know, i can't count, but i dance and i listen to music hours and hours. then a few months later she was asked how many hours of music you listen to. she said, music is forbidden. >> u.s. officials say this case is a unique opportunity to track efforts by terrorist groups to recruit westerners. isis members have successfully played a role recruiting several americans online. intelligence says the denver teens were communicating with both men and women recruiters. >> the girls were in communication with isis sisters

online. women that are dedicated to recruit women. >> we want to bring in pamela brown now. it is so hard to imagine that american teenagers, are interested in that way of life. have these teenagers in denver been charged with anything? >> at this point they have not been charged. it's unlikely they will be charged. bottom line, the federal system isn't equipped to handle this kind of system with juveniles. and that's a big issue. you know talking to law enforcement officials, they admit that their hands are tied. and in that sense. because of the way the federal system is set up. and we're talking about federal officials as well. and also, i think there's a sense in this case the parents were the ones to alert authorities. and i think the concern is that they are charged, that maybe that will deter parents moving forward to alert authorities, if they suspect their child is up to something. because parents really play the key role in all this. >> our system is set up to

protect kids differently from the criminal justice system in general. so it's not expected to go that route. the bigger concern is that if these girls were lured, how do we keep others from being lured? how real do they think the threat is of more of this? >> it's very real. talking to law enforcement officials, they say it's an alarming problem. they're calling it the phenomenon, you have the perfect storm of issues, what's going on in syria the foreign fighters, isis relying on social media as a recruiting tool and vulnerable youth in the u.s. who are on social media all the time. and so that is creating this issue. where you see these girls like what you saw in denver, wanting to go over there and fight. in fact there are other cases similar to that around their ables, we don't even know about, because they haven't been charged. so it's, we don't know about them. >> incredible stuff. pamela, thanks so much for breaking it down for us. now to the ukraine, officials tell cnn they are

getting ready to defend themselves against a huge new offensive from pro russian separatists. the u.s. accusing russia of undermining a cease-fire there by sending troops and weapons into the country again. senior international correspondent matthew chance has the late frebt moscow. matthew, what's the word? >> well, the russians are categorically denying those allegations by the united states and nato that they are fueling this conflict in eastern ukraine. nato said it has sighted russian tanks, russian artillery and russian combat troops crossing from russia to ukraine to the area the held by the pro russian separatists. the russian officials we've spoken to saying that is just propaganda and does not reflect the situation on the ground. but it follows international observers reporting in the past 48 hours that they've seen at least 43 military trucks coming from the direction of russia, towards donetsk, which is in

eastern ukraine. some of the them carrying heavy artillery pieces. others carrying multiple rocket launchers, perhaps of the kind that may have been used to shoot down the malaysian airliner flight mh-17. so very worrying movements on the ground. and as mentioned, everybody bracing for this region, which has been supposedly engaged in a truce since september, going back into full-scale conflict again. chris? >> any sense on that end about timing? why now? is it just that they feel they're being ignored because how the u.s. and the coalition is distracted with other matters? what is it? >> that may play into it. but i think there's a bigger picture to think about from a russian point of view. winter is coming, they've already annexed the crimean peninsula. that peninsula can only be reached by sea. they want to establish a land corridor that would make it very easy for them to supply that region with food and fuel. as the winter approaches. so that may be what the motivation is. >> all right, matthew, appreciate it. we'll stay with you on this.

a lot of other news this morning, let's get to you mick. >> good morning. navy officials are investigating an assault on three u.s. sailors caught on video in turkey. military officials say the sailors were attacked by members of the turkish youth union who put bags over the sailors' heads and shouted obscenities. the parents of one of the soldiers spoke out about the incident. >> the reaction is fear and anger. but in the peace of god comes in and gives you peace about it. >> american officials tell cnn the sailors are now safely back aboard the uss ross destroyer. house republicans have pushed a vote to friday to approve the keystone pipeline. the bill is sponsored by republican cassidy who is in a run-off against incumbent mary landrieu. senate democrats are no longer blocking legislation. we're hearing democratic party favorite senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts is among

those being considered for a senate leadership post when elections are held today. chinese hackers at it again, accused of targeting u.s. weather systems. the national oceanic and atmospheric administration says four websites and some satellite feeds were dproe kprcompromised october by an internet-sourced attack. the national weather service is among the targets. the latest in a series of hacking attacks blamed on the chinese, including the recent breach of the postal service's computer network. compromising personal data of 80,000 employees and several million customers. horrifying 911 calls have just been released from the deadly school shooting last month in washington state on the recording, a teacher pleading for help amid the chaos as a student armed with a gun took innocent lives one by one. >> we have reports of gunfire. >> chilling nine one one call. >> ran out of the school, and

all of the school right now. >> students, teachers and staff flooding 911. >> i just left the cafeteria, guided students out the side door. >> inside the cafeteria freshman jaylen fryberg shot five classmates, injuring one, another died on the scene, three later succombed to their injuries. >> we have many injured. marysville high school. we need emergency right away. >> the teacher who tried to stop fryberg. blood is everywhere. i did not see the gun. >> before the 15-year-old turned the gun on himself. >> i need help, i need help now. i'm standing right here sitting next to him. he is a high school senior, i do not know who he is. i tried to stop him before he shot himself. >> as word spread quickly around the community, frantic calls from parents began pouring in. >> i just got a phone call from my daughter from pilchuck high school. >> zoe's mother messaged her

daughter, are you okay? but the 14-year-old never responded. >> they finally had to tell us that our child had passed at the school. he took away the best thing that i ever brought into this world. >> that mother, michelle galasso, her child was one of the first to die in the cafeteria that terrible day. she says she forgives jaylen fryberg, the shooter. she said i have to forgive, because i cannot waste my life hating or being angry. she says when she saw jaylen fryberg's mom, she went up and hugged her and told her that she loved her she realizes that mother is grieving as well. >> gosh, so painful. >> very painful. >> so many parents want answers to why. but you don't get those answers. >> and very often people misunderstand why they forgive. but how could you forgive? you forgive for you, so you can go on with your life. and in many cases, they feel

that's a way of not letting the person who did the bad thing continue to control over your life. >> a way to hey. >> that's beautiful, but so hard to do. >> it's hard to imagine. we send our love. that's all we can do. >> thanks, michaela. >> let's get over to meteorologist indra petersons keeping track of the forecast. you were right, it has turned cold. >> i'm sure like when is it going 0 get here, right, i can't wait? well today if you're in the northeast, the cold air has finally made it. we're talking about a good 20-degree temperature drop affected today, new york city's highs in the 40s. it cools off even further as the cool air continues to linger. not to say the cold air is gone from the upper midwest or the plains. monroe, 8 below and denver had a record high because it was so cold yesterday of just 6 degrees, you factor in the wind chill and it feels like 32 below. that bite is here, it's strong and it's expected to last. places even in the south are

talking about temperatures 30 degrees below average. into the northeast today, not as bad, only about ten, 15 below average for us. but a low is developing so we're going to see some rain and even some snowshowers into new england. the big thing you need to know, is it going to last? yes, we're going to be talking about the cold air lingering. here comes the next storm meaning the temperatures, they're going to be staying cold for some time. all the way through next week. we're talking about round two on the way. oh yeah. >> yeah. there was high drama in the sky at the world trade center yesterday. two window washers dangling from the building, that is 68 stories up. what you're seeing on your screen. yikes. but new york's bravest to the rescue, how did this happen at one of the supposedly safest buildings of the world? as you know, we landed a comet going 34,000 miles per hour. we landed right on it, hurray!

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this morning, after a terrifying scene at one world trade center. look at this. the two mep were clinging to a dangling scaffold for more than an hour, hundreds of feet up in the air. outside the 68th floor of the new skyscraper. cnn's erin burnett asked one rescuer how they managed to cut through the windows, which are supposed to be impenetrable. >> you put some laminate on it and some suction cups and you cut the door into the shape of a door. and you pull everything back one section at a time. very, very slow. very calculated. >> what was their condition when you got to them? >> they were good. they understood. we lowered them down to radio squad 18 and ropes, so we substantially tied them off. so the fire department had them secure on a rope. so they were safe. >> the incident is prompting serious questions about how a

problem could arise so quickly at the new building, it's only been a week since the first tenants moved in cnn's miguel marquez is live for us. this was a nail-biter. >> nail-biter, heart-wrenching. people were staring up at this building in absolute fear out here. look, these rigs had been operating since june. they were installed last year. no problems so far. now everything is on hold until there's an investigation. frightening moments unfolding on the newly opened one world trade center. two window washers trapped on a platform dangling 68 floors above the ground. >> i'm seeing two heads right now dangling over their scaffolding. >> at about 12:40 in the afternoon, 41-year-old juan lizzama and 33-year-old juan lopez were headed to the roof of the tower when a cable on one side of the platform gave way. the workers pushed the emergency

stop button but the rig didn't come to an immediate stop dropping it from horizontal to near vertical. >> they weren't going anywhere. so they weren't panicking. but they had no options. >> within minutes, authorities on scene,s rescue begins. with another platform in place on the roof, as a back-up, rescue workers use a diamond saw to cut through three layers of thick glass do reach the trapped workers. after 90 heart-stopping minutes, they succeeded. pulling them in through the 68th-floor window. >> our people are trained for it. they just amaze me every time with how good they are at it. >> officials credit police and fire departments and the workers themselves. for being prepared for this dangerous rescue. >> had they not had the proper equipment and the proper training to handle a situation like this, we might have had a different ending to the story. >> upgrade services, the company employing the workers issued a statement saying although all safety measures were exercised, the cause of the incident

appears to be equipment failure. officials attractle, the company that designed, built and installed the window-washing rig had no comment. they also designed the scaffolding that collapsed at the hearst tower in midtown manhattan leaving workers stranded 550 feet in the air before being rescued. the window washers have now been released from the hospital. lucky to be alive after dangling from the tallest building in america. now the scaffolding has been secured at the top of one world trade center. and the window on this brand-new building? it's been repaired with tape and some plywood. back to you guys. >> that sounds like mcgyver. how did these workers who were trapped on that scaffold, manage to stay calm during the incident? >> well, the big thing was is that the fire department was able to get a rope down to them, a single half-inch rope from the

very top of that all the way down to them. it held a radio at the very end of it and two knots on there where they could secure themselves into. so if the scaffolding went, they would at least be on a completely different system and safe. the fire department says if these guys are trained up. they're used to handling this sort of stuff. they were on the radio with them the entire time and they were good sports about it. amazingly enough, a little bit of hypothermia. >> it was a really complex coordination they had to do from the first responder standpoint. is it true, miguel, they had been training on how to do this, just like ten days ago? >> they had been trained on this specific action in the event of this at this building, and they were looking at two different ways of going at it. either through the window, which they eventually did. they were setting up another scaffolding up at top to bring it down to them. that would have taken a heck of a lot more time. chris? >> miguel marquez, thanks for

making us relive it this morning. >> every time we show the freedom tower people are moved by it because of what it represents. we get a lot of questions about why it looks like that, the architectural design. the eight sides represent the eight sides of the original two towers. there's symbolism to it. >> i didn't know that. more violent protests to tell but in mexico. demonstrators setting fire to a major government building. when will the people get answers about the dozens of missing students who may have been massacred? and hanging by a thread -- no, not the window washers, they're okay now. it's the lander that isn't. three different systems were designed to keep the lander on that speeding comet. all of them failed. so will it stay put? can it stay put? or is more than a decade of work hanging on by a thread just like the land centre we have the latest from mission control. take a closer look at your fidelity green line and you'll see just how much it has to offer,

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good to have you back here on "new day." a look at your headlines, u.s. senior officials are telling cnn that president obama has orred a review of strategy for going after isis in syria they say he asked his national security team to take a second look over concerns the islamic militants may not be defeated without removing syrian president bashar al assad. the initial strategy was to tackle isis in iraq first and

then take them on in syria. new details about the deadly virgin galactic crash. investigators say the pilot who survived the accident was thrown free from the spacecraft, and able to unbuckle his seat belt before the parachute deployed. the spacecraft is being stored for further examination into the accident. a show of playful bipartisanship on social media from former president's george w. bush and bill clinton. bush had the perfect response to a clinton tweet about his new book release. saying how are you still on twit centre. >> president clinton added why didn't you have a twitter account. >> once they're out of the game, it's turning into a bromance. >> once the game was over, you

see alliances you would never expect. >> should have spelled "another" a-n-u-t-h. we're getting word this morning that there are some real mechanical issues for the philae probe. which managed to land on a comet about 20 hours ago, a comet that was going 34,000. the problem is the lander seems to be having trouble with the landering part. it was supposed to attach. but it didn't. after the space harpoons and screws did not deploy. so the question is -- can the comet stay stable in this low-gravity field? let's get to frederick pleitkin, live in germany and forced to be an expert in all things having to do with the lander. fred, give us the answer. >> what does fred do when he's forced to being an expert? he gets himself a little mod toll show what's going on. first of all, the exciting thing we have this morning is a picture of the landing site. this is the first time that the

human eyes are laying eyes onto the surface of a comet with a human spacecraft on it. you can see, this goes to your point that the landing site is very rough, very rocky and it makes the landing more remarkable and also the fact that this thing is not attached to the comet, all the more difficult. what apparently happened was as the lander was moving towards the comet, it landed and bounced off the comet. because the harpoon system that was supposed to deploy didn't deploy. it bounced back up. that bounce up took about two hours because there's almost no gravitational field there. it landed on the comet again, bounced back up for six minutes and now is stable on the comet, they say. now you're right, it's not attached to the comet at this point in time. however, i'll put it back up here, the scientists that we've been speaking to here say at this point in time it's absolutely stable. so they think they don't have any problems, they're getting signals. they say everything is fine at this point, chris. >> good to hear, fred, because we can see it's not easy. can you barely keep your little

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protesters taking to the streets, demanding answers about dozens of abducted students. hundreds of protesters set fire to a local government building. demonstrators pointing the finger as what they call a corrupt police system for its involvement in the disappearance and possibly the killing of those 43 students. cnn correspondent and senior laden american affairs editor rafael romo has more. >> in the middle of a violent protest in mexico, a mob drags away a police officer kicking and punching him. >> there's an argument ensuing right now with some of the protesters saying let's beat up the police officers. some others saying let's not beat him up. let's remain as peaceful as we can. because it's going to send the wrong message. >> as it turns out, the hostage was mott just any police officer, it was juan jose gattica, guerrero state undersecretary of public safety. the fact that the top official was taken hostage for hours is raising questions on whether

protesters have overwhelmed security forces in guerrero state. there have been angry demonstrations to protest the disappearance of 43 students in late september, a case mexican authorities believe they have solved, but parents refuse to believe them. >> the only feeling that we can have is to share this sorrow and pain from the parents of these students that are still missing. >> the government says the students from a rural teachers college were murdered by a gang, the bodies burnt in a landfill. by the time they got here some students were already dead. the ones who were not dead already were executed. >> the mayor of igualla and his wife, accused of having deep ties to the gang are in jail. so are more than 70 others. officials say the students were on their way to disrupt an event by the mayor and his wife so he ordered their abduction. neither the mayor nor his wife have commented. the parents of the missing say they don't trust the government's investigation. and refuse to believe their

children are dead. especially since there's no dna evidence. one man's 19-year-old son is among the missing. my heart tells me that my son is alive alvarez says, a conviction shared by most of the parents. >> such agony for the parents, rafael romo joins us now. great reporting from you, rafael. i want to you take us more about the mayor's wife and the ties she has with this cartel. >> maria pineira is being alleged as having deep ties with organized crime. not only that, his family michaela, especially his father and brothers, have been tied to the beltrand lava drug cartel out of mexico. right now she's being detained in a holding cell. but she may face a number of charges for her alleged role in this. >> so a little faith there, i know from the citizens about

justice and about you know, if they're going to get to the bottom of this. rafael thanks for your reporting. hopefully we can get more information as the days come along. chris? >> mick, we're expecting key grand jury testimony today from the doctor who performed an autopsy on michael brown. for his family. the question is, what if the grand jury does not indict officer darren wilson? will there be any peace in ferguson? we're going to get some perspective coming up next. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we know in the cyber world, threats are always evolving. at first, we were protecting networks. then, we were protecting the transfer of data. and today it's evolved to infrastructure... ♪

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welcome back to "new day," breaking news in ferguson, the paethologist who performed a private always for michael brown's family will testify before the grand jury today. this is interesting and it raises a question of why, since the prosecutor has just called his own experts. perception is often reality in this situation. so what does it mean now that police in ferguson have purchased much more than what, six figures worth of riot gear to prepare for the grand jury's decision, all while promising that first amendment rights of protesters will be respected.

let's discuss it with someone who understands the issues well. brian stevenson is the author of "just mercy" a story of justice and redemption, a memoir about the start of his legal career, helping the underprivileged and the founder and executive director of the equal justice initiative. good to have you on the show, brian. this is a tough situation, a metaphor, it is not just about ferguson, we all should know that. yes? >> yes. >> when we hear that dr. badden is being brought in, a famous forensic pathologist. the prosecutor does not have to put that autopsy before the grand jury. why do you think he's doing it, and is it a good move? >> well, i do think that the big issue in ferguson is the big issue everywhere. you have lots of people in our community that simply do not trust law enforcement. they do not trust the people who are empowered to protect them from threats. and that trust is longstanding, and you cannot understand these issues without understanding the backdrop, the context. and many people of color feel

like they are targeted. harassed, they're presumed guilty, presumed dangerous and these incidents when they manifest in the way that they have so tragically feed the distrust. and unfortunately there's been too little in ferguson to kind of restore trust. even in the process of this indictment and the legal proceedings, there are doubts. and so you see the family responding with that doubt mindset. >> is this a step in the right direction, hearing that their expert is being used at the grand jury? it's unusual. >> it is unusual. but i think it is a step in the right direction. you want to accommodate the victims of this situation. you want to make people feel like their perspectives are being credited and heard. and when you don't do that, you just feed that distrust. and i think absolutely they should be employing this expert and using every other tool and resource. >> they've been going a long time. we don't know what he's presenting. there are leaks. you know we talk about perception is reality and how people feel about these situations almost metaphorica y

metaphorically, because they happen in different places. likes like this are not unusual. the idea of what actually happened here, is what is getting lost in this. if this grand jury hears everything and says you know what, i understand why the officer thought what he thought. because of what happened at the car. and i understand what the officer thought, what he thought, when the shooting actually happened. and they buy the kid, michael brown had turn and was coming at him. and there is no indictment. do you think that should be respected by the community? >> well they will have no choice but to you know kind of, they won't have the ability to go beyond that legally. but no, i actually think that communities that feel targeted and disrupted by this kind of violence have a legitimate need to want better. to want more. even if in this particular incident there is no indictment, i think they should credibly will be demanding and will

credibly demand different -- >> they are different issues, i want to pursue what you're saying. however, one step back. if there is no indictment and you lose it on the streets of ferguson, how is that a reaction that is any better than the problem? >> well, i don't think that you can expect more from the community than you expect from the police officers that serve the community. and if you have a community that feels threatened and targeted and harassed and mistreated by the police, then you're going to get comparable kinds of reactions. i think unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident. we've got four 40 years of police shootings of young, unarmed african-american boys that rarely get prosecuted the way they should. you can't disconnect from that larger piece of history. >> you can't be blipded by the perception in the moment of reality. if wilson is clean and this is a horrible shooting, you have to take that for what it is. it feeds into the other things you're saying. we haven't seen the leadership

in ferguson that we could have. governor nixon is out there now talking a lot about the response. he has not been out there as much on the streets of ferguson talking about the problem. you could very well argue. the word from the local authorities is we're going to wait for the word to come down and then reach out. you could argue reach out now, take your beatings verbally. i think that's a huge problem. >> it shouldn't happen a week before the indictment. it should have been happening for the last two or three months. people in that community feel like every day they're being targeted, they have to fear the police and the violent offenders in the community. >> the cops work against them, not for them. >> the cops see these community members as enemies. >> that's the perception. and when they hear that the brown family didn't have the normal liaison with the prosecutor's office, they treat you, even if a cop is involved, like okay, you were the one who was shot, let's deal with your family and make sure it's okay.

that's not happening here. >> again one more symptom of a larger problem. and the truth of it is is that you're not going to be able to deal with that problem using standard operating procedures. which are basically, hope for the best, use extra control. try to get through. you're going to have to change the way you relate to people who feel i think justifiably outraged by their treatment, not just in this particular inches stant. but day in, day out, week in, week out. and it's an experience that i think is shared by many people of color in this country. >> ferguson is a great demonstration of why brian wrote the book in the first place. it's not about, it has nothing to do with ferguson, but the issues that are presented in here, he tells them through the story of one man and his problems with the justice system. done as metaphor for how many plays in the justice system. and what the realities are and not just the perception. it is very strong on that level. "just mercy: a story of justice

and redemption" written by brian stevenson, worth a read on this issue. thank you very much. for good or bad reason, we're going to be bringing you in again, because there's going to be a need to keep the dialogue going. perception is often reality with what's going on in ferguson. so we're trying to make sure that we reconcile what's said with what we can show. for example, on wednesday's show, missouri state senator maria nadal was making a lot of points, one she referred to pictures of apache helicopters and drones in missouri, implying they would be deployed for the situation in ferguson. so know this -- the missouri department of public safety heard that and said -- that is not correct. assets like that are not there for that purpose. and will not be used in ferguson. okay? so that's both sides of the situation. the perception and the reality. this is just one story we're following for you this morning. there's a lot of news, let's get to it. >> there's no formal or strategy or review of our syria.

>> it is a cauldron of disaster. >> we're going to have to be smart about what we do. >> they would want to see bashar al assad gone. >> we're excited about having a great new bunch here. we're here to make the place function again. >> in the middle of a violent protest, the top official was taken hostage. >> it is a big political crisis for mexico. we're a are all outraged. >> i'm seeing two heads dangling over their scaffolding. >> they weren't panicking, but they had no options. a lot of news to tell you about, good morning and welcome back to "new day," i'm alisyn camerota alongside chris cuomo. is president obama rethinking the strategy to fight isis in syria? sources say that the president has asked for a review and sources say that isis can't be taken out without first eliminating syrian president bashar al assad. >> worth providing some context, we're getting mixed messages

from the white house. one top official saying any review is part of a larger ongoing assessment. we have to suss this out. we'll bring in jim acosta, read the tea leaves for us, what's going on here? >> chris, what is going on here is the president as you said is in myanmar for a summit of asean leaders, gathered here to talk about regional economic and security priority that are important to this part of the world. but you know, on the sidelines of that, administration officials are being pressed about the president's syrian strategy when it comes to dealing with isis in iraq and syria. we heard from the deputy national security adviser, ben rhodes, who came in to talk to reporters earlier today. he said that there is no formal review taking place of the isis strategy in syria. that the president from time to

time in his national security team, they do go over exactly what they're doing with respect to dealing with isis and they're saying at this point they do feel like there is a fundamental weakness with that strategy and that the united states does not have a reliable vetted, trained partner in the syrian opposition. and so that is a problem in terms of dealing with isis. they feel like they do have that in iraq with the iraqi security forces. and so what the white house is telling us at this point is that while they don't believe that the strategy has to be thrown out the window, it does have to be constantly calibrated and reassessed and this is sea that's what's happening right now. >> this trip is supposed to be about asian affairs and what's going on, but there's so much on the plate that the president is getting different opportunities. we stu that the president met momentarily with the russian prime minister who made some comments on the sidelines at the summit about the situation in ukraine. which i hope people are paying attention to it, because it's ramped right back up to the last time they were there. what are you hearing about that?

>> that's right, chris, senior administration officials say president obama and russian prime minister dmitry medvedev did meet on the sidelines of the asean summit. according to the russian news service, medvedev did talk to the president about the sanctions that the u.s. and other world leaders have applied on russia. they are causing pain on the russian economy and medvedev said they cath deal with the crisis in ukraine adequately until they get rid of the sanctions. there was a brief moment, it sounds like they were putting heads at the summit on the sidelines of the summit. but chris, i have to tell you one of the things that we ran into here, we were touring the, some of the sites in myanmar during a break. and covering the summit. and we ran into the russian prime minister, dmitry medvedev as he was i guess having an encounter, taking a walk on the wild side, meeting some of the country's famous white elephants stationed just outside of a jind pagoda here in myanmar. i threw a question to medvedev

about what is happening in ukraine, here's what he had to say. >> do you think the u.s. and russia can come to an agreement about what's happening in ukraine right now? >> time will show. >> that was it, "time will show" was what medvedev had to say about that. it goes to show you, chris, when you cover these sorts of summits, you never know what you might run into on the sidelines, even way on the sidelines of a summit like the one we're at right now. >> good for you in spotting him in that hawaiian shirt and asking the question. appreciate it. >> you got it. back here at home, congress is back to work. cue the spitting of coffee all over america. it's true, they are back to work. and even though it's a lame-duck session, they have a big and growing to-do list, it looks like republicans aren't going to wait until they're in charge to make noise. they're challenging the president on a number of key issues, including the climate deal with china. let's bring in chief congressional correspondent dana

bash to join us, what's the rub here, dana? >> the rub is that there could not be an issue that shows and illustrates the differences between the two parties more than climate change. i mean, the whole concept of what the president agreed on in china yesterday to reduce u.s. greenhouse gas emissions, is just anathema, to republicans, because they believe that reducing greenhouse gas emissions means job loss. mitch mcconnell, case in point. he is the senator from kentucky, a very large coal-producing state. he campaigned hard on ending what he called the war on coal. so this is something that they're going to fight very hard on. but it's not just this issue of climate change, chris. it is iran, which we're going to see front and center on the senate floor today with lindsay graham coming up with a measure to try to push back on the

president on the nuclear deal that he's, that the administration is working on. it's net neutrality, which sounds really in the weeds, but it really is about how we all use the internet. and its regulation, things like that there are so many philosophical fundamental differences between the parties that we're going to see play out with the new republican-controlled congress. >> we've been seeing it play out, dana. their resistance to the administration is nothing new. the question is how are they going to use their new-found leadership to bridge some of these gaps and get something done. on that side, we're hearing from the democrats that they may put elizabeth warren, who is a growing popular face, for their party in the senate in a leadership role. how will that work? do you think she'll be able to reach out? or is she someone who identifies with the traditional base of the party and may bang heads more with them? >> she definitely identifies with the traditional base. maybe the better way to say it is the base identifies with her. there aren't that many rock stars in the democratic caucus any more. there are a lot of solid senators, but not a lot of democrats who are well known

particularly those that drive the base to its feet. and elizabeth warren is that person. she did it during the campaign, she campaigned for a lot of her colleagues, a lot of challengers, and the democratic leadership, harry reid in particular, sees that. so our understanding is that she may get a seat at the table now. it won't be position number one, two, three, or four. but a seat at the table is going to be key. because she not only is somebody who appeals to the base, but she has tremendous experience with regard to consumer issues, and so she certainly isn't a political tactician, but she bring as voice to the table. and also you know, she would be another female at the table. right now, the top three leadership posts in the senate democratic leadership are men. just one woman. so she would be another woman there. >> so she's going to make the team, playing time to be determined. that's what we know right now. dana bash, thank you very much. joining us now is republican

congressman ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. >> we have a lot to talk about. let's start with syria in terms of what we're hearing this morning. have you heard that there are some sort of shifting strategy on syria, and that the goal would now be to oust assad? >> i have heard this. and i think part of the strategy behind it is the request from turkey. that something be done about what assad is doing to the sunni population. in aleppo as you know, the middle class syrian sunni middle class is holding on there. and they are being pounded 40 air flights a day, barrel bombs being dropped on that population. a couple million refugees. inside turkey from syria. syria is saying look, assad is not going to come to the table. he's not going do work out peace. so if you want our engagement, let's, let's have a plan to do something to remove assad. and then we can, we can stop

isil. i think that's what's driving it, as well as the feeling in the gulf states and frankly jordan, that feel the same way turkey does on this issue. >> let's move on to china. and the deal that many people are calling historic in terms of climate change and getting china to finally agree to curtail some of the vast pollution that it's been churning out. what do you think of that deal? >> well, 16 years from now, in this deal, china agrees to increase its emissions for the next 16 years, but then to cap and then to begin to reduce. and i think that's what has caught people's attention. eye been in china and seen the pollution, it is really terrible. and one of my colleagues once on a trip there found that the scrubbers that they were supposed to be using in order, you know to clean the coal, weren't turned on. when questioned, they said well, it's growth at any cost. look, what we'd like to see in an agreement is something that reduces pollution now in china.

not 16 years from now. not let them continue to emit and increase those emissions while we of course are reducing and we would double the rate of reduction by 26%. so i, lehere's the point that republicans are making. energy costs are important in terms of manufacturing costs. so if china gets lower energy costs than the united states, a lot of jobs are going to go to china. can't we do something to put pressure on china, maybe through tax policy of imports or whatever it's going to be -- that would force them to comply with the same regulations and rules that we comply to, rather than an agreement where we increase our regulation here, but they wait 16 years before they turn the corner and begin to reduce their emissions? that's the question. >> i mean the way it's being billed is that they have until 2030 to reach those caps as you're talking about sealing. but they are supposed to be

starting steps now. i mean baby steps, is there any consolation that at least china has come to the table to talk about pollution? >> well, look, it's great that we have a dialogue with them. i've raised this with the premier myself. but the question, the question is also this, the administration in the meantime with the keystone pipeline, by blocking that project,er that sending that petroleum to china, because china is trying to build a pipeline to vancouver, and send it to china. that reduces the price of energy in china. while we will then have a higher price here, our manufacturers have to compete. so our worry here with the global strategy of the administration is are they really putting pressure on china? or are they simply doubling down here on regulation, but not negotiating with the chinese on anything that's verifiable. i think that's a valid worry based on the conversations i've had with the premiere, i don't know how serious the chinese

really are maybe 16 years from now they'll you know, they'll reduce the emissions. but they certainly don't intend to right now. >> we want to talk about what you're doing today, that is holding a hearing on ebola. the president has asked congress for $6.2 billion in emergency funds to try to fight the spread of ebola everywhere. are you inclined to give him that money? >> yeah, i think we're inclined to be supportive of this. our hearing is going to focus on the world health organization. one of the problems we have is that we have transferred an enormous amount of money to the world health organization, hundreds of millions of dollars. the world health organization actually blocked the efforts by the cdc, and usaid. and refuted the argument mid by doctors without borders months ago, before this crisis hit. when others were saying, hey, look, you've got political directors in there with the world health organization, that are denying that this is an

ebola epidemic. so they kept people out. they actually blocked or did not admit experts who wanted to travel to that region. we're going to have to have some reforms in the u.n. to get people who are actually doctors, actually physicians in these positions and get world health organization professionals assisting. the united states is going to take the lead on liberia. in sierra leone, that will be britain and france for guinea. everyone will step up and do their part. we do have to shake up the world health organization to get them to make certain that this kind of disaster does not occur again. where for five months they try to keep from the public the information about an epidemic. >> got it congressman ed royce thanks so much for making time for us this morning, great to talk to you. let's go over to michaela for more news. here's your headlines at 11 minutes past the hour. the three denver deens who tried to join isis had direct contact with the terrorists over social

media. a law enforcement official tells cnn some of the jihadist recruit wrers westerners currently fighting in syria. the teenaged girls made it halfway to their destination before being stopped by authorities in germany. a major military shake-up in iraq. the country's new prime minister has relieved 26 army officers of their commands and forced ten others to retire. and has added 18 new commanders. the prime minister says the goal was not to punish anyone, but rather to improve military performance. notably against isis. an unnamed iraqi official tells the "associated press" the shake-up followed an investigation into corruption into the iraqi military. caught on video -- a parent abuse by a school bus driver in ohio, now parents are planning to sue. check it out here. this is christopher letotensky, seen strapping down an 11-year-old boy with austism. and possibly slapping him and

repeatedly pokes a 6-year-old in the face with an umbrella. needless to say parents are livid. >> it really hurts to know that our daughter was subjected to that for at least a year and a half. she refers to abuse as far back as kindergarten. >> in a statement, the school says safety is the highest priority in the district. the driver faces seven charges and has since resigned. quite a scare for u2 frontman bono, a rear door on his private jet fell off while the jet was thousands of feet in the air. on their way from dublin to berlin. they heard a thud and fortunately the door was outside the pressurized area of the cabin. the jet landed safely minutes later. luckily everyone is okay. apparently this is a very uncommon for this to happen. >> i hope so. >> and it, yes, which makes you feel better. and that they were not ever at risk. but still, that would be

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. 43 college kids in mexico have been gone for almost two months now. and are presumed murdered. imagine, what would be going on if this happened in the united states? and authorities were blamed for the situation. now, in that context, you go et to see why the protests in mexico are growing and officials are being taken hostage and state buildings are being attacked and destroyed. fuelled by perceived injustice and families desperate for their kids and answers. let's bring in eduardo medi medina mora, mexico's ambassador to the united states and former attorney general. thank you very much for joining us. do you blame the protesters in your country right now? >> thank you very much, chris. we certainly share the sentiment

of indignation, outrage, that circumstance like this should trigger in any human being. we are certainly parents and we share the sentiment of the parents of the 43 college students that disappeared and are all indication, dead by now. so we're not blaming anyone in this sense, we are certainly sharing the sentiment and taking all actions at our hand to make sure that this circumstance is rightly faced in the sense of getting every single person who was responsible for this inhumane and unacceptable actions to justice. and of course, more foofd in the constitutional advancement that would make these events not happen again ever. >> look, it's the right answer, mr. ambassador. but it doesn't seem to square

with the action on the ground. you have a mayor and his wife, you have the police who are involved. allegedly with this. mine these are the last people you need involved with criminal activity. and it doesn't seem that the justice has been that swift. certainly to the protesters and families, how do you explain that? >> well, all of those involved in these issues, the mayor, his wife, 36 police officers, from egalla, 74 people are now facing prosecution.iguala, 74 people ag prosecution. we still have a few of them to arrest and we are having 10,000 police elements actually in active search of these persons and also looking for the students, if any other line of investigation remains open. because we don't have yet, the

certainty of the identities. all indicates that the students were murdered. but we have the investigation open. we of course share the sentiment of the families. we are not going to have any hesitation in terms of moving forward to bring everyone responsible of this inhumane and barbaric actions to justice. >> one last point, you say no hesitation. there have been no charges brought against anybody here. and it's hard to believe -- >> that's not the case, chris, that's not case, chris. >> we hear they're detained, but not charged. >> they have been charged. >> we haven't heard about the charges. >> they have been charged. the attorney general has explained this. the mayor is arrested on a murder case. and of course, new charges have been brought to him.

the wife has been detained in judici judicial, pending indictment. and the police officers have been indicted. so this is not just waiting for action. this is the state with capital "s" taking decisive action on a circumstance that of course is totally unacceptable. and we are not going to be accused of any shortcomes in this. >> well, as you know, mr. ambassador, you certainly are being accused of shortcomings, and that's why the people are so angry. we will have to let the process play out and hopefully it goes the way you say it will, is that there will be justice and there will be changes. >> this is a turning point, chris, we need to advance in terms of making sure that this never happens again. we have shortcomings in the institutional of management, security and justice in iguala and the state of guerrero, we

face a very difficult circumstance. and in this sense, we are taking all actions at our hand to make sure that this is not happening again. we are now also having the technical assistance of the inter-american human rights commission. we signed an agreement with them yesterday. this was a demand from the parents. and this is also something that comes from our own beliefs and our own certainties. the human rights component here is critical. you cannot have an effective police force, if it does not respect human rights. this is not only a demand from a legal and ethical perspective. it's a demand actually from operational effectiveness. you cannot have police that is effective, if it is not respecting human rights in the way it relates to ordinary citizens. >> well mr. ambassador -- >> a major component of this effort. >> mr. ambassador, you certainly identified the problem.

what remains to be seen if you all can find a solution in mexico. we'll stay on the story. mr. ambassador thank you for joining us on new day. >> thank you very much, chris and rest assured that presideth president is committed to make this a turning point in the way this has been handled in our country and in the state of guerrero the last few weeks. >> we'll look forward to seeing what he does when he gets back from abroad. alisyn? >> let's hope it's a turning point. it was a nail-biter of a rescue, 68 stories above new york city, how did two window washers end up dangling from the world trade center? we'll speak with the window washer about how they're feeling today. great rates and safety

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welcome back, let's give awe look at the headlines now at 27 minutes past the hour. president obama is reportedly rethinking strategy in the war against isis. senior officials say he has ordered a review of u.s. policy in syria. after realizing that defeating islamic terrorists in syria may be impossible without first ousting president bashar al assad. new provocations from russia this morning, moscow says it plans to send long-range bombers to patrol the gulf of mexico and the caribbean, including near american waters it comes amid another uptick in violence in ukraine that's left at least four ukrainian soldiers dead. our senior international correspondent matthew chance has the latest live from moscow. matthew? >> well these are quite dramatic developments from moscow that russia will resume cold war era

flights across the arctic from its base there is towards alaska, and more flights down the west coast of the, the western atlantic and the east coast towards the gulf of mexico. it hasn't done these kinds of flights, testing u.s. air defenses since the end of the cold war. they don't actually represent a military threat as such. in fact, think tanks that have been focusing on the upsurge in these kinds of flights in europe saying the biggest threat they represent is to civilian airliners, as the possibility of a mid-air collision because the military flights from russia often don't use their in-flight transponders, their locaters, nor communicate with ground control and air traffic control. so they represent a danger in that sense. the whole idea that russia is resuming these cold war era flights gives us a pretty good picture of just how bad the relationship has become between russia and the west. >> certainly it is, matthew and the concern about the commercial airlines flying through those areas, thanks for the update. an update on a story we've been watching.

a 90-year-old veteran who has been in trouble for violating a florida law against feeding the homeless in outdoor public spaces has been cited a third time. arnold abbott was with a group of supporters when police singled him out. gave him another citation. but they did allow him to keep handing out food. ft. lauderdale's mayor says the law is dined to help the homeless get 0 off the streets by taking away the incentive to wait for help. you know we're going to follow up on this story. here is one for the record books, cory thunder law, a member of the world famous harlem globetrotters, shattered the guinness mark for the far farthest basketball shot ever made, 82 feet, two inches, nothing but net, backwards. >> see the arms on that guy? you cannot be weak and shoot a ball over your head that far. >> he beat the old mark bay full ten feet. >> i'm not sure it's just brute

strength, there's a lot of technical skill happening there. >> very few people could reach the basket from there, let alone make it. >> i couldn't do it from the foul line. >> he's amazing, thunder law, good job. >> the show is so fun. one of the stories we're all literally watching with bated breath, two window washers were dangling from the freedom tower, this morning they're safe thanks to the new york's bravest and a diamond saw. they were cleaning windows and the question is -- why? why did it take this kind of effort for these men to do their job safely? miguel marquez has the story. >> frightening moments on the newly opened one world trade center. two window washers trapped on a platform dangling 68 floors above the ground. >> i'm seeing two heads right now dangling over their scaffolding. >> at about 12:40 in the afternoon, 41-year-old juan

lizzama and 33-year-old juan lopez were headed to the roof of the freedom tower when a cable on one side of the platform gave way. the workers pushed the emergency stop button but the rig didn't come to an immediate stop, dropping it from horizontal to nearly vertical. >> they weren't going anywhere, you know, so they weren't panicking, but they had no options. >> within minutes, authorities on scene. the rescue begins. with another platform in place on the roof as a back-up plan, rescue workers use a diamond saw to cut through three layers of thick dplas to reach the trapped workers. after 90 heart-stopping minutes, they succeeded. pulling them in through the 68th floor window. >> our people are trained for it and they amaze me every time with how good they are at it. >> officials credit police and fire departments and the workers for being prepared for this dangerous rescue. >> had they not had the proper equipment and the proper training to handle a situation like this, we might have had a

different ending to the story. >> upgrade services, the cup employing the workers issued a statement saying although all safety measures were exercised, the cause of the incident appears to be equipment failure. >> officials attractle, the company that designed, built and installed the window-washing rig had no comment. tractle also designed the scaffolding that collapsed at the hearst tower in midtown manhattan last year, leaving two workers stranded before eventually being rescued. the window washers have now been released from the hospital. lucky to be alive after dangling from the tallest building in america. and now you're looking at a live picture of the window that fdny turned into a door as they call it. it has been repaired with this very high-tech building, with duct tape and some wood. to keep it secure until they can replace the window for good. the scaffold has been secured up

on the top of the building. alisyn? >> scary stuff, miguel. thanks so much for showing us all of that. we want to bring in gerard mcle haney, director of the window washing union that serves the employees. >> i've been able to contact one, the lead man on the scaffold and he briefly told me he's a little shaken, but he's doing okay, spending time with his family right now. >> did he explain to you what it was like for that hour? while they were suspended there? >> well obviously it's a harrowing experience for anyone to be suspended that high in the air on one wire rope of a scaffold. it was frightening, but they're well trained. we're train our window cleaners, 32 bj window cleaning division apprenticeship program, they're prepared for these incidents. >> you train them for this scenario. first of all, what happened, a cable broke? >> it appears there was a

mechanical failure on one of the wire ropes, yes. >> you train your window washers in the event that a cable breaks and you're suspended 68 stories in the air. what are they supposed to do? >> well at there point, the point they were there's nothing much they could do but sit there and wait. they called the third man, there's always a third person in radio contact. when workers are suspended scaffold. >> how were they able to stay so calm? >> their training, we go back to the training. we prepare them for this, we tell them stay calm. they have their life lines on and they're safe. it's just a matter of waiting until help arrives. >> did they have their life lines on? what we had heard is when the fdny got there, they lowered down a rope to them and they were able to kind of harness themselves in. >> no, that's a standard in the industry. you have toe wear life lines. you have to employ them at all times on a scaffold. >> what are those connected to in. >> they're kepted to separate anchorage points on the roof. and they tie their ropes to that

and they kept it to themselves. in the event of an emergency like this a situation, they're prepared and it saves their lives. >> what happened when you got the call at the office that there was an emergency happening? >> i rushed down to the trade center and i got up on the 68th floor, you can imagine, it was chaos at that point. the fire department, police, building personnel. everyone is running around. but the fdny was at the window trying to cut through it at that point to rescue them. secure the scaffold, and rescue the workers. >> was there any moment you thought they might not be rescued? >> no, the fdny is fabulous. these guys are incredible. do a tremendous job. and this is not their first time doing something like this. >> how are the rest of your window washers feeling today about heading back up on a building? >> well, everyone knows in the industry, that this could be them this could happen to any of us at any point working in the industry. and they're well prepared for it and you know, they know that the risk is always there. >> well we're so happy that this ended well, it was so

nerve-wracking to watch it unfold. >> it certainly was, yes, and i'm very happy myself. >> thanks for coming in today, gerard mceneaney, best of luck for a quick recovery for your guys. the worst of the situation for the window washers, but it got us to see the best of our first responders on display. thankfully it ended the way it did. so, ebola gone here. good news. here'sed bad news -- only came here because it is overwhelming parts of west africa. if you don't stop it there, you will see it here again, no matter what restrictions you have, that's the fact so where's the answer? maybe clinical trials. there's exciting new science, sanjay gupta is here and he's going to tell you about it. and europe's space agency releasing the first pictures ever of the philae lander landing on a moving comet. never happened before. however, it's new home seems to be a place it is renting, not owning, why didn't it hook in like it should have?

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just announced this morning, clinical trials will begin next month to try to find a safe and effective treatment for ebola. doctors without borders hosting three separate research projects at treatment centers in west africa. the effort is being billed as unprecedented international partnership, meant to give hope to people in ebola hot zones. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is here with the latest on the trials. the international partnership, it sounds big. >>s did big and unprecedented. think about the fact that there's this ongoing humanitarian disaster, epidemic going on in west africa. now they're going to start these trials. some people will say it's been a long time coming. we need to see if the medications really do work and test them in some way. but what's happening here, mick is something that's not happened before. they're going to find three centers in west africa, at least 100 patients in each center and try these different medications. some of them have been

medications we've heard about. they've been given to patients in the united states. one is going to be the blood transfusions of people who have, who have survived ebola and have the anti bodies in their blood. that's the trial they want to do this. this is an unprecedented thing. peter hornby, with oxford, partnering in the trial as well. listen to how he described it. >> there's a great need for these trials. we have the products, which may or may not work in ebola. in patients with ebola. and the only way we can test them is during an epidemic. if we're going to find a treatment, we have to do it now. >> when you hear that michaela, it's important to point out that we've been giving some of these medications. but really don't know for sure how well they work or if they work at all. it's an answer that we need to have going forward. >> the question is how do they select which clinics in west africa and then which patients within those clinics will be

part of this experimental treatment? >> it's a great question. and i'm sure you know, the exact where probably had to do with density of patients right now. we know there's still many patients who have the infection, here's what's interesting about the second part of that question. when you typically do science, you do what's called randomization, you find some patients who are going to get the medication and compare them to similar patients who don't get the medication. that's how you normally do this. they're not going to do this in this case, they're going to give 100 patients the medication in these particular locations and compare how they do over 14 days, with how people have been doing the last few months. we know the death rate is very high. so they're going to compare it to the existing data as opposed to randomization. it should be good data, still, they think it should come back by february or so. it's a very different way of conducting science. and again, it's because of the extraordinary circumstances. >> so amazing to think that they could use the blood from survivors to potentially help

others. that's so classic, ultimate recycling. dr. sanjay gupta thanks so much for that, we appreciate it alisyn? we're getting our first glimpse at some very cool images sent in by the philae lander. but the historic mission did not go exactly as planned. we're learning some technical issues popped up. will it doom the mission? we're going to ask bill nye, the science guy, he's going to break it down for us. but there's a new card in town. introducing the citi® double cash card. it lets you earn cash back when you buy and again as you pay. that's cash back twice. it's cash back with a side of cash back. the citi double cash card. the only card that lets you earn cash back twice on every purchase with 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay . with two ways to earn, it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided.

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remember. but it's not sitting very securely. we're being told the lander did not attach properly to the comet's surface. so there are some questions about the stability of the probe and concerns that it could go off into space in the low-gravity environment. here to discuss the latest on the mission is the author of "undeniable: evolution, science and creation" bill nye, the science guy. great to have you back. >> so good to be had. >> the mission was a success, but it didn't go exactly as planned. it precariously plopped on the comet. >> so the idea was to have what they call harpoons to stab the comet and it would stay there. well the harpoons didn't fire. but they still have mutual gravity, so it's sitting there. the one thing that won't be so easy to do is drill into the surface of the comet. which was a pretty cool gooal. >> can they move it down the farther? >> i don't think so. i think once it's gently

i think once it's gently deployed it has to gently sit there. you guys, can i just say, they did all this for $1.5 billion. over 30 years, it's a cup of coffee once every 13 years. it went well. you caught up with in thing in the middle of deep space nowhere and did you listen to the sounds? you know where they come from? nobody knows where they come from so when you go exploring you're, two things are going to happen. you're going to make discoveries like and have adventure. >> sounds like whale speak or dolphin speak. >> everybody's speculating, there's so much ice, water on these objects that just a little bit of sunlight is causing them to scrape on each other electrostatically like static and it's being picked up by the instruments. >> back to your point about that, you talked about, it hit

me what you were saying yesterday, i think we tv people want things to go off just as planned but part of this is the adventure of discovery. >> that's right. >> all of the things we don't know we're learning, and there are amazing discoveries we may still find. >> they'll learn a lot about the cometary bodies. >> i'm one of the tv people who likes when things go as planned especially when that's what the whole point of it is. what do you do now that it's hanging there. if you can't do the digging what can you do? >> there's a lot of chemistry, you do everything but drill. you try drilling anyway, see what happens. >> wasn't that the whole point to drill down and gather some of the material? >> that was one of the points. if you like to worry about things. >> yes, we do. >> i know your viewers do.

if the earth ever got hit with one of these things that's it earth wise. there's no evidence that the ancient dinosaurs had a space program. if they had, maybe they'd still be running the show here so if the earth were ever to get hit with one of these objects we're done. >> how is what we're doing up there avoid that? >> we're learning how to catch up with one so we could give it a nudge. >> we would give it a nudge how? >> oh, so did i mention the planetary society we encourage you all to follow. >> is that what that pin is? >> yes, this is the planetary society, the world's largest non-governmental space interest organization advances space, science and exploration so people everywhere will know and appreciate our place in thes could cosmos. >> to my point. >> because these things are tumbling and the drilling and attaching problem you probably want to buzz it with lasers except it's in outer space so there's no sound, just with lasers. >> which is probably not that

far-fetched given what we just accomplished yesterday, the landing on. so this isn't so outside the realm of possibility there. >> at the planetary center we support people zapping rocks with lasers and vacuums to see how much oblated material, the burned off momentum has. this is rocket science. >> this is heavy stuff. >> how big do you think the nasa budget is? it's a fraction of the u.s. federal budget. >> tell us. >> smaller than it used to be, that's for sure. >> people perceive it's 10%. we're talking about the united states. this is philae, the european. it's 0.4%. planetary science is in turn 9% of that, in other words the part of the budget where the new, cool, exciting amazing stuff like this mission is done is 0.03% of the federal budget. we could increase that just a little and we could, dare i say it, change the world. so this is what -- >> at least get the harpoons to

work. >> would you do that throwing more money at it and having more testing. you guys, this is an amazing thing that the european space agency did just because they know it would advance space science, advance engineering. >> absolutely. >> there's the practical application someday we may want to deflect these comments, the interesting thing is this discovery just for example of the sound. people have all kinds of immediate ideas of where it came from, but it was unexpected and that's what happens when you explore and so people want to justify all sorts of space missions on the basis of the science they'll bring back and i'm the science guy. i just want to recommend to everybody explore to see what's going on out there because we are made of the same stuff as the solar system. where did we come from? are we alone in the universe? if you want answer to the questions you have to explore space.

>> bill nye you are testing our curiosity too much. we must move on. >> great to see you so excited about it. thanks for spending the time with us. >> change the world. >> speaking of ways to change the world, syria's president is now seen as part of the problem in making the world a safer place from isis. now we've heard this before, then we heard no, he's not really that important. now he seems to be back in the crosshairs. what is the deal? we have the latest reporting on it for you. and new provocations from russia, moscow getting set to deploy long range bombers over the atlantic and the pacific near american waters. we have the latest on that and spiking tensions in ukraine.

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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com new war strategy in president obama reportedly wants a review of the plan to defeat isis in syria. is removing syria's president now on the table again? and what does this mean for our fighting men and women? >> the grand jury in ferguson, missouri, is set to hear from a pathologist who performed an autopsy on michael brown and now the attorney general is speeding up plans to prevent a repeat of the summer riots.

we will speak with officer darren wilson's attorney. hacked. the main u.s. weather agency breached, causing a disruption in satellite feeds and key websites. how serious was this attack and who was behind it? your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning! welcome back to "new day," a beautiful view of the freedom tower there and no one dangling from it, that's nice. >> that's a relief. chris cuomo and alisyn camerota here with news overnight of a possible new strategy in the war against isis. president obama is asking for a review of u.s. policy in syria, specifically a review of syria's president bashar al assad and what to do about him. will he have to be taken out before isis can? >> now a member of the white

house security team is pushing back on the reports saying any review is part of ongoing discussions. the news comes just as defense secretary chuck hagel and joint chiefs chairman martin dempsey are set to testify at a house hearing on isis. elise labott is live in washington. >> we're not talking any type of military strategy. we're talking about the political strategy in syria. obama administration has being saying president assad should go but hasn't linked a political in syria to go after isis. they decided to go after isis in iraq first and take on syria after the moderate rebels were trained up to go after isis and ultimately president assad. officials tell me developments on the ground are making that untenable. the opposition could be obliterated by this time the u.s. pivots back to syria from iraq. coalition allies really asking for more coherent syria strategy, diplomats tell me

secretary of state kerry is trying to get everyone on board to redouble efforts on a political road map that ultimately will get rid of assad and basically there's also talk about expanding and training that program to equip for the rebels to make them trained up, train more of them, train them faster. white house pushing back a little bit on the idea that there's a formal review here. take a listen to deputy national security adviser ben rhodes. >> there's no formal strategy review of our syria policy. what there is, is a strategy for degrading and ultimately destroying isil that requires us to take a hard look at what we're doing on a regular basis and as you know we've had regular meetings that the president has joined with his national security team on this issue and soeria's been an important subject at those meetings. >> some officials are calling it a calibration. one calls it a vigorous

reassessment. i think there is eight a realization they need to rethink how they look at this strategy in syria and how it face into the campaign against ice pice >> thanks for explaining that to us. >> congress is back at work and one of their first orders of business is that climate change deal with china. republicans are already saying they think the u.s. got a raw deal but white house officials say the president will hold firm on it when he returns to washington. chief congressional correspondent dana bash joins us from washington. republicans of course are now in charge of both chambers in congress so what can they do about this climate change deal with china? >> you know, alisyn, republicans when they come in, and are sworn in to control the congress in january have already said that they are going to try to roll back existing regulations when it comes to the environment and greenhouse gases and so if the president puts more on in keeping with this china deal, they're going to do the same and this is one of the areas where

we're going to see a lot more action from the republican-led senate. mitch mcconnell who will be the majority leader said he's going to use congress's power of the purse, the appropriations process, to try to beat back these regulations. so what does that mean in real terms? that could mean a real showdown again when it comes to money that could, could if they really want to take this to the mat, end up in another shutdown, even though republicans say they don't want to do that. >> all right, dana, other news out of d.c., the democrats are interested in putting elizabeth warren, one of the most popular faces in the senate right now, in some sort of leadership role. what does that look like? >> i was told this morning harry reid himself, the soon to be minority leader, the top democrat in the senate, wants elizabeth warren at the table, that he trusts her judgment, that he trusts her personally and that this is something that he wants. now, would it require her to be elected by her membership?

probably not. because she wouldn't be one of the top leaders, but she would potentially have a seat at the table, which is very telling for a lot of reasons. first he said that she is certainly a rock star when it comes to the liberal base but also maybe telling of where the caucus is, a lot of moderate democrats were defeated so it's more of a liberal caucus which might not make for compromise very well. >> it will be interesting to see what role she gets. over to chris. >> climate deal is a big deal. regee ma mccarthy, administrate i don't are for the environmental protection agency. ms. mccarthy, i know you go by gina, but i just provide deference to the office. we're going to talk about the deal and the china aspect. they're not really your first problem? you have a senator likely to take over the committee, senator inhofe who believes climate

change say hoax and said if god wants the place to be hot, who are we to stop it? how do you get past that? >> i think the epa is going to do what it's always done which is focus on science and the facts. this isn't a belief system. this is about science and we know our kids are at risk. we know our public health is at risk and even more importantly at this stage, we know that there are affordable, reasonable, effective steps that we can take that will address this risk and continue to grow the economy and grow jobs. that's really what this joint announcement was all about. we've been taking climate seriously because the president has provided needed leadership on this issue, and we're going to make progress that actually sends the right market signals for the future of this country and to help promote this international agenda that we need to address this really significant public health problem. >> even if you get around the senator inhofe problem which is that it's a hoax and god doesn't want us to do this, then you get

to the senate majority leader. i know the president doesn't need the senate to pass this deal. mitch mcconnell saying economically this will kill us and i'm not going to let it happen. now what? >> he just needs to look at the facts again. we are working with the president so that we utilize the executive authority that he has been given to actually make the kind of reductions we need to make to keep our kids safe and to move towards a clean energy future, which is really going to provide investment, not cost, needed investment in the market here in the u.s., to maintain our competitive edge, and to keep our economy strong. this is not about taxing the economy. it's about supporting it and that's an important thing to keep in mind, and we don't always have that available when you're looking at some significant challenges like this, but we have worked hard to make renewables available, to double those renewables, to actually, to advance solar energy tenfold in this country.

we've provided lots of funding for these clean energy technologies. now is the time domestically to take advantage of that, continue to grow our economy and keep our edge. that's what this is all about, but most importantly it's about protecting our kids and future generations. >> that debate is going to be had about whether you're incentivizing things instead of punishing the fossil fuel energy. you're not pushing china anywhere near as hard as the u.s. in terms of changes to be made, that they don't have to do anything until 2030. >> i think that's an incorrect way of looking at it. i disagree totally with that. these are significant steps forward. we're sending a clear market signal on where the u.s. is heading. that will launch innovation. that will grow jobs. likewise, china is not going to be able to rest on its laurels

until 2030 in order to change an economy like this, they need to make significant policy changes right away. they need to make huge investments in renewable energy in order to achieve those goals in 2030, and have made a commitment to actually try to escalate that before 2030, but when you have economy as large as that and economy that continues to have to grow to meet its own needs, they are going to have to make big changes right away. >> of course then you have the question of how do you make them do it if they don't but that gets into a whole different part of the discussion of the relationship between the two countries. gina mccarthy, u.s. environmental protection agency, thank you for being with us this morning and explaining this situation. we'll be talking about it more, that's for sure. >> all right, chris, thanks so much for letting me be here. >> always. alisyn? russia is escalating tensions with the u.s. over the conflict in ukraine. moscow plans to send long range bombers to patrol the gulf of mexico and the caribbean near american waters.

this as surging violence in ukraine leaves four ukrainian soldiers dead. matthew chance hat the latest from moscow. >> reporter: thanks so much, alisyn, that's right. the criticism levied by the united states and nato against russia it's supplying combat troops and equipment to the separatists across the border in ukraine, categorically denied by russian ambassador, saying this is propaganda, it bears no reality to the situation on the ground excepting the fact the claims they provided no more than political support but nato the western military alliance and national observers on the ground both sighted military equipment coming from russia into ukraine, some of the military equipment spotted by the international observers the osce carrying artillery piece answer multiple rocket launchers

as well, potentially of the kind that we used to shoot down mh-17, the malaysia airline. so very significant, very important military movements on the ground, all giving rise to this concern that the cease-fire that's been in force, the truce that's supposedly been in force since early september is falling to pieces and the region could soon tumble back into full scale conflict. >> so troubling. matthew chance, thanks for the update. this morning we're also hearing chinese hackers are going after the weather. they're being accused of breaching computers at the national weather service. officials say four websites and some satellite feeds were compromised. let's bring in cnn's evan perez. it feels like we're getting beat up online all the time, it was russia, now it's china. what's going on here? >> this is happening all the time. officials say that this cyber attack targeted four weather-related web sites and it forced them to shut down

services to airlines, the u.s. military, and wall street firms. the national oceanic atmospherac administration or noaa says systems are back to normal and delivering service to the public. the hack was traced back to china. earlier this week the u.s. postal service revealed it suffered a major attack that affected nearly 3 million customers and 750,000 employees. that attack also, chris, came from china, they say, and with both these attacks, the government agencies waited weeks before they notified the public and that's bringing criticism from members of congress. now the chinese embassy, no surprise, says there's no proof that the chinese involvement in these attacks. spokesman tells cnn that cyber attacks are quite common and that jumping to conclusions on its origin without hard evidence is not responsible at all. >> it's very interesting, evan, like even when you have proof of at tacks the response to what they do to you online, what

someone does to you is different than if it happens like outside the internet, you know, if there were any attack like this in real life, not the digital life, the response would be different. evan perez thank you very much. lot of news this morning. get to you michaela for the head lines. >> good morning to you, 13 minutes past the hour. navy officials are investigating an assault on three u.s. sailors caught on video in turkey. military officials say the sailors were attacked by members of the turkish youth union, placed bags over the sailors heads shouting anti-american sentiments. the sailors are now safely back aboard the "uss ross." chilling 911 calls just released in the deadly shooting last month at the high school in marysville, washington you could hear a teacher begging for help as she watches a student gun down classmates before he takes his own life. >> we have reports of gunfire. >> reporter: chilling, newly

released the 911 calls capture the shooting. students, teachers and staff flooding 911. >> i just left the cafeteria, guided students out the side door. >> reporter: as inside the cafeteria jaylen fryberg shot five of his classmates. >> we have many injured, marysville-pilchuck high school. we need emergency right away. >> reporter: and we're now hearing for the first time the heroic teacher who tried to stop fryberg. >> blood is everywhere. i do not see the gun. >> reporter: before the 15-year-old turned the gun on himself. >> i need help. i need help now. i'm standing here right now sitting next to him. he is a high school student, i don't know how old he is. i tried to stop him before he shot himself. >> reporter: as word spread quickly around the community,

frantic calls from parents began pouring in. >> i got a phone call from my daughter from pill chuck high school. >> reporter: zoey's mother messaged her daughter, are you okay but the 14-year-old never responded. >> they finally had to tell us that our child had passed in the school. he took away wuchbt best things that i ever brought into this world. >> that mother, michelle galasso, her daughter was one of the first to die in the cafeteria on that terrible kay. she forgives the shooter. she says "i have to forgive because i cannot waste my life hating or being angry. russia and qatar have been cleared of corruption in their respective world cup bids at least for now. an ethics judge for fifa says no proof was found of bribes or voting deals, but the decision will be appealed. the chairman of fifa's investigatory chamber which led

the investigation released a statement saying the decision contains incomplete and erroneous representation of the facts. outgoing kansas, arkansas governor, pardon me, mike bebe is expected to pardon his son for a 2001 felony conviction. kyle bebe served probation after his arrest more than a decade ago. he said at the time his son should be treated like any other criminal. he would have pardoned his son sooner if kyle asked but kyle apparently wanted to wait because he was embarrassed. the governor said in an interview he granted over 700 pardons in his time as governor, mostly to "newsnight"-violent criminals. >> why not include your son in that 700, that makes sense. >> it does? >> if it's all non-violent criminals, yes. >> the standard is assemblance of impropriety with public

officials. you don't want to do things that look like you have conflict of interest. this clearly passes the test, that's why. >> we shall see that prediction. >> he's getting heat, that's why it's in the news, just saying. >> i thought it was noteworthy. >> you think so? >> yes. >> tell us on twitter. >> there you go, weigh in on this, find us on twitter at #newday. isis recruits young americans, investigators are digging into the minds of teenagers who want to join the terror group. how the teenage girls actually linked up with the extreme is. plus tensions boil over in mexico as a top public safety officials nabbed, kicked and punched. are any answers coming out about the missing 43 college kids? that is acidic on a daily basis. those acids made over time wear the enamel. a lot of patients will not realize what's happening to the enamel. once it's gone,

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this morning an inside look at how isis recruits americans. investigators are digging deeper into the reasons why two denver teens wanted to join the terrorists. cnn's justice correspondent pamela brown has the story for you. >> reporter: cnn has learned hardened jihad is currently fighting with isis overseas had direct contact with three denver teens, 15 and 17-year-old sisters and their 16-year-old friend. using social media to lure this emto jihad >> these were role models to them, people they could be in contact with. social media, more immediate and allows you to immerse yourself in an extremist environment used as a recruiting platform. >> reporter: some of the jihadist recruiters were we werers fighting in syria, encouraging the girls to join

isis, even giving them a road map of how to go from denver all the way to syria and eventually link up with a brutal terrorist group. >> they can interact in real time with other people through tweets and this is very immersive to them. >> reporter: in october the teens made it half way to syria, before they were stopped by authorities in frankfurt, germany. after the teens didn't show up for school, their parents alerted authorities who found a treasure trove of information on the teens' social media profiles. >> it's literally a case that you have the information through the internet. >> reporter: they analyzed the teens' online activity. >> the same girl that was asked one day how many hours of music do you listen to on a daily basis and she used to say i don't know, i can't count but i dance and listen to music hours and hours and then a few months later she was asked how many hours of music you listen to, she said music is forbidden.

>> reporter: u.s. officials say this case is a unique opportunity to track efforts by terrorist groups to recruit westerners. isis members have successfully played a role recruiting several americans online. intelligence says the denver teens were communicating with both men and women recruiters. >> the girls were in communication with isis sisters online, women that are dedicated to recruit women. >> pam brown joins us with a follow-up to all of this. are these three american teenagers anomalies or are others success cesceptible to i? >> there are others radicalized similar to the three girls in denver. they're not anomalies. they're extremely concerned, law officials are about this, a new phenomena, growing trend, underaged people, juveniles

being radicalized online in direct contact with isis militants overseas, a lot of them westerners who have actually made it over there, whose job is to reach out to americans other westerners and try to get them over there especially young people but it's really across the board and that's what's so frightening about this. it's the perfect storm of issues here. >> and isis isn't, this isn't new to isis. this has been going on online. the problem is the system, what do you do with these kids once you get them now, right, because they are minors. can they charge them? it's hard enough on the state level, let alone the federal level. >> they're telling me terrorism charges for juveniles, the federal system really isn't set up to handle something like this. we saw a recent case in chicago where a 19-year-old was arrested on materiel support charges but two siblings attempted to go over to syria allegedly they

weren't charged. it shows you how difficult it is and the denver girls haven't been charged either, the case is ongoing but i think that's part of the issue here, what do you do in this case, how do you handle this? >> so crazy to hear about teen aimingers wanting that kind of lifestyle. pamela brown, thanks so much. while the attorney general is getting updates on ferguson, missouri's preparations for the grand jury vote in the michael brown case. will chaos again done sume the city if darren wilson, the officer is not indicted? we'll speak to the officer's attorney about the latest developments. plus more violent clashes on the streets of mexico. demonstrators are going after government buildings. when will they get answers about the dozens of missing college kids who are now presumed dead? i've had surgery, and yes, i have occasional constipation. that's why i take doctor recommended colace capsules. [ male announcer ] for certain medical conditions where straining should be avoided, colace softens the stool for effective relief from occasional constipation. go to colacecapsules.com for savings.

anger in mexico as protesters take to the streets demanding answers about dozens of abducted students. protesters set fire to a local government building wednesday calling it a corrupt police system. cnn's rafael romo has the latest. >> reporter: in the middle of a violent protest in cilpiancico a

mob drags away a police officer. some are saying beat up the police officers, some others say let's not beat them up, remain as peaceful as we can because it's going to accepted the wrong message. the hostage was not just any police officer, it was juan jose otica, undersecretary of public safety. the fact that the top official was taken hostage for hours is raising questions on whether protesters have overwhelmed security forces s is in guerre state. there have been angry demonstrations to protest the disappearance of 43 students in late september, a case mexican authorities believe they have solved but parents refuse to believe them. >> the only feeling that we can have is to share this sorrow and pain from the parents of these students that are still missing.

>> reporter: the students from a rural teachers college were murdered, their bodies burned in a landfill. >> by the time they got here the ones who were not dead already were executed. >> reporter: the the mayor of igula and his wife accused of having ties to the gang are in jail so are 70 others. the students were on a way to disrupt an event by the mayor and his wife so he ordered their abduction. neither the mayor nor his wife have commented. the parents of the missing say they don't trust the government's investigation and refuse to believe their children are dead especially since there's no dna evidence. his 19-year-old son jorge is among the missing. "my heart tells me that my son is alive" he says. conviction shared by most of the parents. >> we bring in rafael romo now. it's heartbreaking obviously to listen to these parents and their struggle to try to get some answers. they don't trust government

officials, so how will they get answers to what happened here to their kids? >> reporter: well, they have met three times with top officials of mexico more than two and a half years -- weeks ago. they met with the mexican president last friday with the attorney general and tuesday the interior minister and the attorney general. there have been these meetings but what you get from the parents, and i've had conversations with many of them, is that they do not trust the federal government because they say they have lied to us before, and we think they're lying to us again. what they say is until we see conclusive scientific evidence, dna evidence that our children are dead, we're going to continue to believe that they are alive and we're just not going, there's nothing that's going to change our mind in that respect, alisyn. >> rafael i want to ask you about that attorney general you just mentioned in the press conference on friday because this attorney general, jesus

morejo, he had an hour-long press conference and under the withering questions from reporters he abruptly turned away and he said, "enough, i'm tired." that has become a rallying cry i understand for these protesters who now say they're tired, too. >> reporter: yes, it was one of those moments that it was totally unexpected. he said [ speaking in spanish ] meaning i'm tired, telling his advisers let's get this press conference over but in social media here in mexico, and in other countries, to be honest, people are retweeting that and saying yes, i am tired but i'm tired of corruption. i'm tired of injustice. i'm tired of authorities being unable to find the 43. i'm tired of poverty. i'm tired of a lot of social ills that have been historical challenge for mexico and so these three words were something

that, unexpectedly became social media sensation here in mexico, alisyn. >> yes, enough, i'm tired, has really taken off an social media. rafael romo, thanks so much for the update. we'll try to get more answers by following this. there's more news to cover, over to michaela. >> the five things you need to know for your "new day" at number one, sources say president obama is asking for a review of u.s. strategy in syria after realizing defeating isis may not happen without the removal of president bashar al assad. u.s. officials are investigating an assault on three navy sailors in turkey. they it bagged placed over their heads by people yelling anti-american sentiments. the sailors are now safely back aboard their ship. two window washers are rescued after clinging outside over an hour outside the 68th floor of one world trade center. the window will be replaced

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welcome back to "new day." today a private pathologist who performed an autopsy on michael brown for his family will testify to a grand jury determining whether or not to charge officer darren wilson. attorney general eric holder also spoke with state and local officials who are on alert for the decision and potentially any large protests that could, hopefully will not follow. protests will be okay, it's the violence they're worried about.

we bring in neil bruntrager, general council for the st. louis police officers and also counsel to police officer wilson. i'll ask you this, do you believe your client, officer wilson, will be indicted? >> what i can tell you is you know, chris, i wear two hats, i represent darren wilson but i also represent the police officers association. as it his attorney and with the pending case i can't comment and can't answer your question. i can tell you of course we hope that will not happen but like everyone else, we're waiting for that decision. we think the grand jury is looking at this thoroughly. what i can talk to you about is police preparedness as we get to the final days before the grand jury decision comes along. >> and i will talk to you about that and other policy issues. let me ask you this, the st. louis police officers association, they know darren wilson's story. do they stand by what he says happened and think it was a correct use of force? >> you know, the answer is they

don't. what they know of course is what everyone has read in the newspapers and they're in a position where they, like everyone else, are waiting until the grand jury makes a decision. so again, from the perspective of the association as a labor union, obviously they're interested in their members making sure their members are safe. in terms of taking a position on anything else, their position is look, justice is a process. they support the process. they're behind the process, and i think that's the most important element here is that it's not about taking a side. it's about understanding the process and they do and they encourage everyone, everyone to pay attention to that process, because it is something that people can trust. >> i ask because perception is reality and a lot of the cops there were wearing "i am darren wilson" or darren wilson support bracelets and there were questions about that but on a larger level the governor came out and talked about preparedness for the protests. he didn't really talk about why people were protesting, he just talked about how they were ready to squash any protests that got

out of hand. do you think the timing and the tone of that was the best way to help the police cause and keep peace? >> you know, the answer to that is, and there's many answers to that and i guess there's lots of parts so i have to start this way and i have to say that, from the ground level, rather than looking at it from his perspective, from the ground up, what we have done as a department, what the region has done is to make sure that they're pooling resources, making sure they understand what the protesters are talking about. let's get to that part of the question, what is it that people are concerned about and that's been a big part of the days since august the 9th up 'til now that's been a big part of wh what's's going on and the training implemented. people are trying to understand what the fury is and if we understand that it's easier to talk to people, it will be easier to work things out with people, and i this i that's been an implicit part of everything that's been done and as a consequence of that, they formed

what i would describe to you as principles of conduct and you hear things like rules of eng e engageme engagement. that's really not what it's about. it's about understanding people and making sure they're safe and making sure the community is safe, protesters who have a legitimate right to speak and acceptable are safe, it's about making sure property is safe and about making sure police officers are safe. >> now, you say that understanding why is very important. is it a fair criticism that you guys have waited too long, not the brotherhood, not the association so much but government in general, of getting back into that community, trying to reach out, trying to make inroads as soon as you could. there's a feeling that, well, let's see what happens here and then we'll really start changing how they do our community policing. why wait? >> i don't think they did. i don't think they did, chris. i think there were movements afoot right away in order to understand these sorts of things, but there are many voices. there's not a single voice in this, there's not one person who stands up and says here's what this is about.

it's about many things, and so as a consequence you have to gather that information. but i also think it's a fallacy to assume this all just sort of happened on august the 9th. there's a lot of history here, but both good and bad and i think that communication level has long preceded august the 9th. again, it's been brought to the fore. obviously things have come to a real pressure point, but these conversations that we're having and that we have been having since august 9th we've been having before that time and i think it's important for people to understand that. there's a new move afoot and i'm particularly proud of what the st. louis metropolitan police department has done and our chief has done before august the 9th there was a lot that he was doing in order to try and understand where the community stood and on racial issues, on all sorts of issues and again race isn't the only issue so again in an effort to make sure that he was a better chief and that we were a better department, these things were being done early on, and again it's an ongoing process. it won't finish when the grand

jury comes back. there is a lot that has to be done, and these conversations are not peculiar to st. louis. this has to happen everywhere. >> you know that in ferguson, there is a very deep and strong feeling that it's not going on and this certainly does have a big history, but that it needs more healing t needs more attention and directness and community outreach and the question is, will it get done. we're going to have too keep following the story and hopefully you're right and the right efforts will be made, but for now, neil, let's leave it there until we see what happens next and hopefully we're reporting on this situation in a positive way, not a negative way. thank you very much. >> my pleasure, chris, thank you for having me. >> always. alisyn? high drama 68 stories above the streets in new york city, window washers dangling in the air outside the world trade center. we'll show you how they were rescued and ask how this could happen just days after the building opened up? and the philae lander is safely on a moving comet, but it

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two window washers are safe and happy to be home this morning after a terrifying scene at one world trade center. take a look at this. the two men clinging to a dangling scaffold for more than an hour outside the 68th floor of the freedom tower. how did it happen and how could this happen here, a place that's

supposed to be so safe in miguel marqu le -- miguel marquez has the details. >> reporter: frightening moments unfolding on the newly opened one world trade center. two window washers trapped on a platform dangling 68 floors above the ground. >> i'm seeing two heads dangling over the scaffolding. >> reporter: at about 12:40 in the afternoon a 41-year-old and 33-year-old were headed to the roof of the freedom tower when a cable on one side of the platform gave way. the workers pushed the emergency stop button but the rig didn't come to an immediate stop, dropping it from horizontal to nearly vertical. >> they weren't going anywhere so they weren't panicking but they had no options. >> reporter: within minutes authorities on scene, the are rescue begins with another platform on the room rescuers use a diamond saw to cut through

layers of thick glass. they succeeded pulling hem in through the 6th floor wind 8th . >> our people are trained and it amazes me how good they are at it. >> reporter: they were prepared for this dangerous rescue. >> had they not had the proper equipment and the proper training to handle a situation like this, we might have had a different ending to this story. >> reporter: upgrade services, the company employing the workers issued a statement although all safety measures were exercised the cause appears to be equipment failure. owe fishes at tracktil, the company desooind and installed the window washing rig had no comment. it also designed the scaffolding that collapsed in midtown manhattan last year leaving two workers stranded more than 550 feet in the air before being rescued. the window washers have been released from the hospital, lucky to be alive after dangling

from the tallest building in america. and back out to a live picture of the window, the window that was turned into a door by the fire department here in new york, it has now been temporarily fixed with plywood and duct tape until they can get it permanently lon don. the scaffolding was pulled up to the top of the roof last night and stay there and not be used until an investigation is complete and they can figure out what caused that cable to slip. alisyn? >> thank goodness everything ended well, miguel, thanks so much for that. >> reporter: yes. we have new details at this hour for you about the philae lander. european officials are holding a news conference as we speak and just released new pictures. these come from the comet. check these out. they say that the probe is stable on top of the comet, so it did bounce twice and come to rest in an unintended spot. we've also learned that after the mechanical troubles the

probe is freestanding on the comet's surface raerp being latched down as it was supposed to be. >> so how did a paralyzed war veteran dance with his wife on their wedding day? how was he able to do that? we'll tell you. it is "the good stuff" and it is the great stuff, coming up. bonjour. comment ce va? bonjour. comment ce va? due cappuccini, per favore.

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♪ i hope you dance a tearjerker, we need the kleen kleenex. >> let's jess ready. >> it's so good that "the good stuff" needs to be even bigger in the title. this paralyzed veteran found a way to dance with his bride on their wedding day. just that line alone, if that's not the good stuff i don't know what is. sergeant joe johnson served in afghanistan, made it through only to be paralyzed in a motorcycle accident after he got back. so he's going to get married and he decides to shock his bride by getting out of his wheelchair and dancing with her on their first dance. how did he do it? he and his buddies rigged up a system of harnesses in the ceiling and figured out how to do it in the way where he could dance with her and of course the bride knew nothing about it, she was totally shocked and of course she started crying and of course then everybody started crying because what's more beautiful than him getting a

look eye to eye with his bride in this moment. everybody was wondering how did he do? how did they think it up and get it done, so many questions that need answers so guess what? tomorrow you're going to get them from this beautiful couple themselves, the new mr. and mrs. joe johnson are going to join us live on "new day." >> oh. >> how great is this? >> look at that photo. that is lover. ified. >> i can't ma'am how hard it is to keep that secret. >> stressed, too. >> had to be just perfect. >> also to make it through afghanistan and come back and then still have something horrible happen, just seems so unfair for these guys with all they give but this is a beautiful beginning to the next phase of his life. can't wait to meet him on the show. >> the pictures are beautiful. we made it through. >> tomorrow is a whole other story. >> i can't wait. >> we'll have to wear the crying suit tomorrow because of all the paints. >> we got you. >> a lot of news this morning, say we get to "the newsroom"

with ms. carol costello. >> i'll take it. thanks so much. thanks so much. you guys have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com from ferguson to geneva, michael brown's parents front and center at the united nations. i'll talk with their attorney benjamin crump. russia flexing its military muscle conducting regular missions close to america's shores. these flights haven't happened with this regularity since the cold war. what's up with that? the comet's kodak moment the first 360-degree snapshot we've seen from the speedy ice ball roaring through space. this is definitely the coolest thing you will see all day so let's talk, live in the "cnn newsroom."