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now. >> announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo, kate boldaun and michaela pereira. good morning and welcome to your "new day," it's friday november 14th, 6:00 in the east on the button, chris cuomo and alisyn camerota with news that the president is poised to go it alone on immigration reform. a move republicans say they will fight with everything they've got. >> yeah, gop leaders accuse the president of ignoring the will of the voters, who just put republicans in charge of law-making. what are the details of the president's new plan, and could the fighting in washington lead us down the path to another government shutdown? cnn's jim acosta is traveling with the president in myanmar. jim what do we know? >> alisyn, president obama has used this trip to asia to reset his presidency. but he is poised to pick some big fights with republicans in congress on the issue of immigration and more just as soon as he returns to the white house.
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his escape from washington almost over, president obama's news conference with myanmar opposition leader, aung san suu kyi, quickly turned to the battle brewing on immigration reform. >> it's way overdue. we've been talking about it for ten years. >> the president could be days away from an executive order granting relief to millions of undocumented immigrants. he's acted to defer deportations for children brought to the u.s. illegally. now sources tell cnn the president is expected to extend the policy to the undocumented parents of the so-called dreamer children. plus the undocumented parents of children born in the u.s. and focus on deporting criminal illegal immigrants. insisting republicans in congress have failed to act, the president said he will. >> that's going to happen. that's going to happen before the end of the year. >> leaders in the soon-to-be gop-controlled congress are warning mr. obama to back down. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path.
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>> we'd like for the president to recognize the reality that he has the government that he has, not the one he wishes he had. >> other republicans are backing up that threat with talk of impeachment. >> impeachment would be a consideration. >> white house officials say the president will gladly rip up his executive order if congress passes a bill. >> the minute they pass a bill that i can sign, that fixes our immigration system, then any executive actions i take, are replaced. >> other fights are looming over the keystone i'll pipeline and the president's climate deal with china. standing next to the president, myanmar's democratic icon, aung san suu kyi, quipped, mr. obama may want to stay on the road. >> i'm sorry the president can't get away from all this. >> i know. >> and a senior white house official told me at this point they're cautioning reporters that not all of the details have been briefed to the president that he has not reviewed the final recommendations from his administration on immigration. but that the general details of
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the plan are well known inside the white house. in the words of this one senior white house official, this is not like the academy awards where they open up the envelope and everybody is surprised. >> jim acosta, thanks for the update. a lot going on, but really two big issues, let's bring if our team, cnn political analyst and editor in chief of the "daily beast," mr. jon avalon and republican pollster and president and ceo of the polling company, miss kelli ann conway. great to see you. the big issue on the table, immigration, kelli ann, let me start with you. the idea of here in this new wave, new enthusiasm of cooperation, the president saying i'm going it alone. let's see what happens and i'm going to go it alone on an issue that i know is particularly sensitive, anchor babies, explain what this means to the republican majority? >> well first it means that president obama would be the open guy left in washington who
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did not assimilate the results of the election a couple of weeks ago, chris and he's going back on his own word and the request offal many of the red state democrats to slow down, to not state publicly that he's going to play the lone ranger on big issues, even harry reid yesterday said he would prefer the president wait at least until december 11th, which is when the government will run out of money to act alone on the executive action. i think it's selfish of the president. because i think you can lay mary landrieu's loss at his feet if she loses in a couple weeks. because he's doing things that are very nonlouisiana and he's making it difficult for a democrat to run on their own and not for obama's third term. which none of them wan to run for in 2016. >> john, why are you laughing? >> i think the concern for mary landrieu is probably a little disingenuous from kellyanne's standpoint. this is a president who has taken a fairly novel interpretation of the election results and say look, i'm
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liberated from the obligation of election. i was restraining myself in trying to defend a lot of the red state dems. there's a cost to when parties don't have people in the opposition territory. i.e. the lack of red state dems means the democratic party gets more left. but the fact he's doing this against the advice of harry reid, in advance of a filibuster -- potential shutdown, that's a big deal. this is while president may be untethered. this is a president who runs the risk of poisoning the well with the reset with congress. >> maybe if the party had been more left they wouldn't have made their base feel so disenfranchised. they would have come out and vote and he wouldn't be in this situation. >> kellyanne, one thing that may make this make sense from a political perspective, do you think there's any chance that the republicans will do anything between now and the end of the year, waiting for them to take their seats, waiting for the full majority. do you think this is an effort to make something happen between now and the end of the year? >> that's a great question for
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president obama. because actually we have a new congress that's about to be seated. if he wants to ram things through in lame duck, that sounds typical behavior. however the republicans can do something, they can put a bill on the president's desk. i think you will find them doing that. if i were the president, i would feel emboldened that i can actually have a role back in washington. because there were hundreds of business that passed the congress and went to die on harry reid's desk. that won't happen now, the senator, mitch mcconnell is the majority leader. bills will reach the president's desk. so chris, the question is, why can't he just wait for the democratic process to take its course? we don't live in a monarchy for a reason and think this is all about his legacy. all about his legacy. john, you may want to laugh. but i think it's all about his legacy. >> that's bogus, let's just drop that. >> i once knew you as a republican, but anyway i'll take my side here. the fact is that this is all about legacy. what fits between the semi colons in a wikipedia entry and
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his legacy, i think it's selfish for him to do that. >> let's move on to something less contentious, obama care. just kidding. inflammatory comments made by a consultant on the original bill for the affordable care act. jonathan gruber. last year he told a group of students about how the lack of transparency in the bill helped pass it. listen. >> a law that said healthy people that are going to pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. just like people transparent lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. basically call it the stupidity of the american voter, whatever, but basically that was critical to get the thing to pass. >> john this is exactly what republicans have been decrying about the bill. he's admitting that they made it more abstruse to get it passed. >> wow. >> this is a big deal.
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this particular on-tape thing will be used by the republicans to say, see we were right. you had to pass the bill before you could see what was in it. it could have implications with the supreme court so this is a big deal, making the rounds in conservative media. it deserves wider attention. it is going to be a major talking point going forward it doesn't unring the bill of the aca. >> i think it shows that the republicans had a very narrow window in which republicans had the vote. 29 several died, a couple retired. most of them no longer have their seats. i think the way the electorate looks at this is simple. this mission is a very, this should be looked at as a nonpartisan issue. this admission is that we had to fudge the numbers, we had to shade the truth in order to get it passed, because what people fear is true. >> that's why i think you have
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to be careful. even this guy, arguing he was the architect, not the architect, what his role was, i think there's a lot there. i think he's been given a lot of credit right now. but it's not about him saying numbers were fudged. he says, in the salesmanship of it. you're right about the timing of the votes, no question they had to rush it through. but they emphasized the cost savings because that appealed to people. because they didn't care about the idea of insuring the uninsured. so it was about emphasis. not lying about numbers, kellyanne. >> i said fudging. if you go back, doug elmendorf at the cbo discounted what they said in july of 2009. president obama said it's going to save money. bob elmendorf said no that's not true. oregon, blue state, hardly has any enrollees, but they've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on their website. >> it's about bending a long-term cost curve.
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because we pay more per gdp. >> the enrollment figures are down as of this week. i think -- the aca. >> but the story is yet to be told on the aca. >> this is a very damaging thing for democrats new york city question. >> the whole argument was they made it super-complicated in order to get it passed and it sounds like he's admitting it was part of the strategy. >> there was skin in part of passing this law. >> john avalon and kellyanne conway thanks so much for being here. new review shows shocking blunder after blunder gave white house fence jumper omar gonzales access to the white house. just the tip of the iceberg in the department of homeland security's new in-depth review. michelle kosinski has more. >> it's incredible to read. what we have is a summary of the report on what happened that night. every couple of lines details another lapse, what is supposed to be some of the best security
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in the world. there were the big problems, you mentioned communications. there was a wrong setting on the radio system that made it so that the joint operations center couldn't cut through the radio traffic. officers couldn't even hear what was going on. and then there were specific problems, like the officer with the dog was on his personal cell phone. not listening to his radio. so he didn't even know anything was going wrong until he saw another officer run by his vehicle. just seems like everything conspired to make for a problem. even the landscaping outside the white house. officers couldn't see over the bushes, they didn't think it was possible for somebody to run right through them as this fence-jumper did. one officer assumed that the doors to the wous were locked. of course, they were not. officers, because they weren't trained well enough didn't know the layout of the interior of the white house. inside the alarm was turned off and the officer at the door wasn't big enough to take down the fence-jumper. it just reads like a tragic comedy of errors. but the secret service says it's working on all of these
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problems. alisyn? >> it does read like a keystone cops plot. it's incredible the details that have come out. thanks so much for outlining them. rumors of the death of the head of isis were greatly exaggerated. a new audio appearing to be the voice of the isis leader, abu backer al baghdadi. intelligence officials say the fact that they do not see him in this tape, however, may be significant. maybe that means he was wounded. maybe it means the tape is dated. they're not sure. that's not all of the isis news, now the terror group is making money of its own. its own money. there's also word of a possible alliance between isis and al qaeda. so there's a lot going on there. arwa damon has the story. >> is the leader of isis out of hiding? days after he was reportedly wounded, perhaps even killed in an air strike, an audio message
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purportedly of abu al baghdadi released by the group on social media in the message he calls the u.s.-led coalition terrified, weak and powerless and calls upon his followers to erupt volcanoes of jihad everywhere. u.s. air strikes in syria have killed dozens of isis militants and are taking aim at the al qaeda-linked khorasan group. targeting one top operative. but al baghdadi deemed the coalition air power a failure. the terrorist leader pointed to president obama's plan to send more troops, under the claim they are advisers. urging fighters to battle the tyrant and their soldiers. and this, u.s. officials believe isis and the al qaeda-linked group al neuews news ra it coul
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be a dangerous sign of alliances to come. >> we certainly are focused mostly on isil at this time. but we'll be tracking this closely. >> as the united states prepares to send 1500 additional military personnel to iraq, the nation's top defense officials reiterated -- >> u.s. military personnel will not be engaged in a ground combat. >> but officials say, iraq will need 80,000 of its own troops to recapture territory it has lost to isis. leaving the door open for greater u.s. involvement. >> i'm not predicting at this point that i would recommend that those forces in mosul and along the border would need to be accompanied by u.s. forces, but we're certainly considering it. >> not entirely surprising that general dempsey would be in fact be considering that. he and others know only too well that the battlefield in iraq is incredibly unpredictable and that all options need to always be on the table. also vital at this point is
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going to be for the u.s. to implement a cohesive syria strategy. as much as america may wish it were not the case, iraq and syria are inextricably intertwined. chris? >> it seems undeniable, arwa. a lot of news this morning, let's get you to mick for the headlines. >> we haven't talked about ebola in a while. we're going to talk about it again now. because it is making its way back into the u.s. we've learned that a surgeon infected with the virus while working with the sick in syria sierra leone will be flown to the university of nebraska medical center for treatment. he's likely going to arrive tomorrow. the unidentified man was born in sierra leone, but is a legal resident of the u.s. prosecutors have added terrorism to the charges against suspected pennsylvania cop killer eric frein. he is already facing death penalty for allegedly killing state trooper bryan dickson and wounding another. charges were upgraded after frein's apparent motive was
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revealed. he told police he wanted to change the government and carry out the attack to wake people up. frein was captured after a 48-day manhunt in northeast pennsylvania. israeli police are easing restrictions at the temple mount. muslims of all ages are being allowed to pray again today. men under 50 had been kept out following violence flare-ups in the recent weeks. the decision to reopen it comes after secretary of state john kerry met with regional leaders, he said both israel and the palestinians agreed to deescalate tensions over the jerusalem holy site. interesting here -- nba commissioner adam silver advocating the legalization of sports betting. in an op-ed in the "new york times," commissioner silver said the u.s. should allow gambling on sports with regulation in place to keep it safe and legal. right now, betting on the nba is only legal in viva las vegas. silver's op-ed comes a week before a federal judge is
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expected to rule on new jersey's efforts to bring sports betting to its struggling casinos and racetracks. very interesting. >> think that's a very interesting thing to do. bring it out of the shadows. regulate it, make it legal. manage it. everybody is doing it anyway. >> so sports betting isn't legal? >> hello, new jersey. >> you make it is a a joke. why would you think it's illegal. it's all over the place. you have espn and all the sports people, giving you analysis for your fantasy games. sports books are all over line. 's fantasy. what happens in the leagues? >> do people wage in those? i don't know. >> it's one of the most obvious and open secrets. adam silver taking this on is very ambitious, because it plays into this puritanical notion of what happens in the country and he was so squeaky clean of how he handled the problem with the clippers. the problem is where does the money go? is it going to be like the lottery where it's supposed to go to education and good things? >> they're going to have to set
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up procedures and strategy and all of that. >> this is one of those deals, whoa, if we make it legal, a lot more people will do it. it's already everywhere. >> i've got to call my bookie. let's get over to meteorologist indra petersons keeping track of the latest forecast for us. it's officially winter. >> people are shoveling snow behind you. >> we're talking about buffalo, you can see off of the lake, talking about lake-effect snow. they're hardly the only ones dealing with it. several inches did fall around the region. keep in mind we're going to be talking about that around boston today. take a look at the satellite. you can see the wave making its way through. boston could actually see about an inch of snow today. it looks like new york city just south of there, they were hoping for the first flurries, you get another shot as soon as monday. a couple of systems out there. first thing to note -- it's cold, right? we know all the way to the pacific northwest, we have a threat for icing today. but we're talking about 30s even into the northeast. so 30s out there as well and down to the south, right now dallas is only 29 degrees. with the chill it's been here for sometime.
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here's the problem -- there are two domes of high pressure expected. so the second one is making its way in right behind this one. so yes, we are reinforcing the cold air even as we go through the weekend. here's the temperatures you can see, they are now well below normal and staying that way. even as we go through saturday. sunday, monday, tuesday -- same story. nothing is changing. here's why, the first dome of high pressure, but the next system that's in the rockies today, take a look what happens by saturday. you're talking about snow in through the midwest. eventually this guy making its way into the northeast. meaning more chances for snow, since we didn't get them this round, maybe monday a few flurries here in new york city. >> although is they? who is the they in new york who wants their first flurries? >> me. i've changed. >> really? >> brilliant. >> a few flurries i can handle. a lot? >> wow. >> this bears some investigating. >> one year, it changes a lot. >> look at the shock. >> when in rome, she's just embracing it. >> it's a moment. we can do it together. >> "they." she is they. now we know.
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president obama has been adamant about no boots on the ground in the war against isis. but the top u.s. general says he is open to a combat presence in iraq. our military experts explain. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman,
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there's a lot of news in the fight against isis this morning and frankly, none of it that good. isis leader abu al baghdadi apparently alive. this as there are reports that isis and al qaeda may be joining forces and here at home, america's top general tells congress he's open to using ground troops to retake a city in iraq seeming to contradict the president's no boots on the ground policy. we have headlines here, we're going to check them off so you know what's going on. let's bring in retired lieutenant-colonel james reece, a former delta force commander and cnn terrorism analyst paul kruckshank. i start with you, colonel, do
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you believe that al baghdadi is dead or alive? >> i think he's alive. but i think he's injured. we've seen this before. you know over the last 13 years of hunting these people around the world. if we're able to put a nick on them and you know get them where they can't get out in public, they'll put something out very quickly, but they don't want to see them. so i think he's been injured in this. but this is a propaganda piece to get his followers to know he's okay. >> on the propaganda score, paul, when the general said i'm open to having u.s. troops involved and overtaking mosul. a little bit of background -- mosul. when the u.s. was there in force, it was very hard for us to deal with that city. it took a long time and a lot of fighting men and women. do you believe he said i want to have u.s. troops on the ground fighting again? or is he saying something short of that and it's being twisted. >> these would be advisers going in with these iraqi troops when they want to try to retake mosul. the retired general coordinating these efforts, retired general
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john allen said that's not going to happen for more than a year. >> it's advisers, they're not on the ground whether that's the right way to do it or not, he's not pushing back on the president's policy, that's spin. >> colonel, let me ask you, word that isis is teaming up with the al nusra front, an extension of al qaeda. a group that's known for their fighting, they were doing well against the mod rats themselves, do you believe they are teaming up? what does it mean about the strength they have now? what does it mean about what we have to do in syria? >> yeah, chris, i do. i think what you've got now is this is, this is like the big dog on the block. isis is the big dog. al nusra has been trying for years, they haven't. but what al nusra has is they've got some different territory up in the northwest, of syria, that isis didn't. so you know, just like the mobs, you know, the powerful isis, they get together, isis has got money, they'll it becomes a financial and business decision.
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al nusra, they have this location over in the west, it just becomes a merger and acquisition from a business perspective. and here's the other thing -- these leaders, they've got big egos, so al nusra, this leadership over there, they want to get tied in with isis, and it's like watching donald trump and all of those type of leaders out there. >> what does that mean, paul, what does it mean for the coalition? >> i think there's going to be some cooperation at the local level between isis and al nusra. i think it's premature to talk about a merger between these two groups. they've been fighting for the last year and al qaeda of which al nusra is part, threw isis out of the global network earlier this year. if they do start cooperating more intensively it's worrying for all of our security, isis has all of these western foreign fighters, news ra and khorasan have the experience in international terrorism. a deadly mix. >> they're showing they're emboldening themselves, boosting
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their capability where the coalition is weakest, on the ground. something else that speaks to the expansion of the threat, isis is trying to make its own money. not make more money, its own. minting a currency, what's that about, paul? >> that's a total propaganda, this is a group that's raising millions of dollars of hard currency every day from oil and other sources of income. they need to pay their fighters, they're not going to be able to do it with gold and silver and copper coins, how much much they might want to return to the ideals of the seventh century. >> they would probably be better going with b.i.t. coins. >> greenbacks, these guys love greenbacks. >> colonel, we see the expansion of the threat. that's how well you measure how well you're doing. is the threat getting smaller or bigger. the militant group in egypt, abm pledging allegiance to isis. does it show an expansion of the
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threat that coalition will have to deal with? >> it's an expansion, what happens here is like we just talked about with al nusra, these other smaller fractional organizations, start looking out and saying hey, here's the big dog on the block, they've got a lot of money, they're getting a lot of support right now. there's a lot of propaganda, they're getting all the media out there. we want part of the pie. and so they pledge their allegiance to this. but when they pledge their allegiance, now what isis gets to do and with al qaeda in the a arabian peninsula, they get to share their technology and training. it becomes a major factor for u.s. and coalition. >> there's been a major expansion into libya. isis has a new stronghold, they're trying to set up an islamic emirates on the southern shores of the mediterranean. that's been a very worrying development over the last several weeks, something to watch closely, chris. >> colonel james reese, paul
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kruickshank, thank you very much. it shows that the military answer is not enough. you'll have to do more to combat the ideas of extremism. not going to do it with just guns. another hot spot, what is russia up to? nato says moscow is moving military equipment and personnel into ukraine. also, russian bombers are supposedly getting close to u.s. waters. we have a live report from ukraine for you next. and an epic fail on the part of secret service agents following the white house fence jumper who was able to get into the building. details on the homeland security review, that reveals a series of embarrassing missteps. in this accident...
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world leaders blasting russia again, amid fresh reports that russian soldiers are charging into eastern ukraine armed with weapons provided by the kremlin. vladimir putin denying these allegations. despite reports from nato showing evidence. let's get to cnn's phil black live from the ground in ukraine. >> good morning, alisyn. if it feels like we've been here before, it's because we have. as you say an emphatic denial from russia that it has any military presence here in russia b. from you nato, the ukrainian government, european observers on the ground in eastern ukraine, they all say there has been an influx of soldiers. heavy weapons, anti-aircraft
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batteries as well as tanks and other sophisticated weaponry. and the ukrainian government says it knows what happens next, based upon experience. because over the last year, it has seen that whenever there's been an influx of these so-called little green men, professional, well-armed soldiers in big numbers, wearing uniforms with no markings, it has not worked out well for them. their fear is that they are expecting an imminent military assault of some kind. they do not know, they say the scale or the intent. how big is it going to be. whether it's going after key infrastructure like the airport at donetsk, where there is still almost daily fighting or perhaps something even larger. the ukrainian government says it is preparing for the worst case scenario. alisyn? >> phil black thanks so much for the update live for us. let's get over to michaela for a look at other headlines. >> president obama is preparing to take executive action on immigration, perhaps as early as next week. when he returns from his
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overseas trip. there is no final decision on the terms, but millions of immigrants could be spared deportation under a work permit program. >> republicans are vowing to fight the president, some democrats fear the gop could force another government shutdown. two navy civilian police officers were injured by gunfire at the front gate of a connecticut submarine base. it began thursday, authorities say a belligerent man armed with a knife tried to get on the base. a civilian officer fired warning shots which ricochetted hit twog colleagues. they are expected to be okay. the suspect was not injured, but was taken into custody. pope francis taking the old adage cleanliness next to godliness literally. the pontiff plans to build showers for the homeless in the heart of st. peter's square. work on the facility starts monday. the he drowned in 2009 weeks
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before he was due to be ordained as a priest. here's one for the dumb criminal file -- check this out, florida, guy tries to steal, he tries to steal a chainsaw by putting it in his pants. >> what could go wrong? >> employees from the port st. lucie chased the crook down. we told he ditched the tool in a wooded lot. ballard told police he had a change of heart after stealing the chainsaw and wanted to return it. he was arrested on burglary charges and will be living on an infamy. >> lucky it had the guard on it, otherwise he would have been at the top of the dumb criminal list. >> he tried to steal a chainsaw and put it in his pants. i have to say it a few times, because it doesn't sink in. >> i like the story she slipped in there about the pope putting showers in there. contrast about what's going on in ft. lauderdale, they give you ticketes if you feed the
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homeless. he's putting showers in st. peter's square. cnn money time. yo money. chief business correspondent christine romans is here. >> i don't recommend stealing chainsaws, that's not in the money report. gas prices at a four-year low. this is what it translates to you, about 400 extra dollars in your family's pocket this year. right now the average price for gallon of regular, $2.92. i saw $2.75 in jersey. 30 cents lower in the last month. 75 cents lower than the summer highs. this is like an economic stimulus. gas, heating oil, pro bain, natural gas, all of them getting cheaper. businesses think it's going to mean higher holiday spending. we're seeing better sales of trucks and suvs, how soon we forget, guys? even walmart says it's seeing evidence that lower gas prices are helping everyone. front page of the business section of the "new york times," the barrel stimulus. more than congress or what the fed can do is what lower gas
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prices are doing for november and december. >> absolutely. who isn't happy about this? >> even diesel, diesel is usually much higher than regular gas. for a long time they've been about the same was a commentary on the need for manufacturing. you know, for trucking. but even know it's staying fairly low. >> they expect another 10 to 15 cents lower in gas prices in the coming weeks. projections for next year, the american government say they expect gas prices to stay below $3 all next year. >> the bearer of good news. >> barrel of good news. >> and monkeys. a public embarrassment for the secret service, a report details some of the egregious errors that allowed the fence jumper to get inside the white house. reaction from an investigative reporter on this next. (receptionist) gunderman group.
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a scathing new report out slamming the secret service response to the white house fence jumping in september. omar gonzales managed to run across the lawn into the white house, and as far as the east room before being tackled. the report is from homeland security and it points to an array of shortcomes from communication to equipment failure and more. let's bring in raul kesler an investigative reporter and the
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author of "the first family detail" and "in the president's secret service" great to see you this morning. the report would be funny, if it weren't so disturbing. it outlines just a series of failures, there was confusion, it says, there was a lack of training by secret service agents there were communication failures. how did it get so bad? >> well this is really the tip of the iceberg. for example in my book "the first family detail" i go into the fact that on a regular basis, the management of the secret service condones and even orders agents to let people into advance without metal detection screening. >> why? >> why? it's a culture, it's a management culture and of course, that filters down to the agents. which says we make do with less, we're the great secret service. we don't need to lock the door of the white house. we don't need to update our radios. we can take these chances that actually risk assassination. >> because we're so good?
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we're so good that we don't need to do all these other precautions? >> yeah. it's impossible to understand just as with any scandal. but it's, it's arrogance, it's the fact that it's been such a secret agency until i was able to break some of that secrecy in my book. and it filters down to the agents. and that's why you saw the agents hire prostitutes. figured hey, management cuts corners, why shouldn't we do whatever we want? in the case the latest situation, why shouldn't we make a personal call while we're watching the white house and therefore we doesn't release the dog. >> i'm glad you're bringing that up. because i did want to read that full screen graphic that we have for the viewers of an excerpt from this report about why the dogs were not released. that was the big question -- here is the answer -- when gonzales jumped the north fence, the canine officer was on a call on his personal cell phone on speaker. without his radio earpiece in. and he had left his second
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tactical radio in his locker. ronald, is this just beyond the sort of, the culture that you're talking about? is this just a lack of training? >> that's part of it. the secret service literally has no annual training. no annual updates. where as the fbi does it every year and almost any police department does it every year. everywhere you look the place is crumbling and there's dishonesty. they'll have scenarios for members of congress at their training center to impress them. and in fact they're all secretly rehearsed beforehand. they take credit for police arrests, where actually the police did the work. they will ask agents to fill out their own test scores on physical fitness and firearms requalification. so it's really a corrupt culture. the only way to change it is to bring in as with any organization and trouble, an outside director or outside ceo in the case of a private
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company, who is not beholden to interests within the agency. who is not part of the culture. i personally think if you brought in a former fbi official you would solve the problems overnight. because the fbi does not tolerate cover-ups and this attitude of you know, we're the great secret service, we will not, we don't have to lock the doors. and you saw that with bob mullen when he became fbi director. as soon as someone high-ranking official started obfuscating a particular case and problems, he removed that person. and that sent a message right away that you will have honesty and you will not retaliate against people who report problems. which is another problem in the secret service. >> the whistleblower problem. let's see if they follow that advice, and if they do bring someone in from the outside now that the report is out and it shows what amateur hour it is. ronald kesler thanks so much. over to chris. there's brand new evidence being presented in the michael
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brown shooting. famous pathologist says what was thought to be an exit wound is actually an entrance wound and that could mean that there was another shot to michael brown's chest. the question is what could that mean to the grand jury? we will tell you, coming up.
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as an indication of how seriously authorities are taking violence. school districts will be ahead of the media on any grand jury decision. so the can i had can get home safely in ferguson. this comes as surprising new testimony was given to the grand jury that could indicate an additional shot to michael brown's chest. we're going to explain that. also attorneys for michael brown's family are calling for transparency in the grand jury process. what does that mean, because it's a secretive proceeding. take a listen. >> there's a great concern that because of this secret proceeding, that people will not be so accepting of whatever decision the grand jury makes. we need transparency. so people can believe that the system works equally for everybody. even in communities like ferguson. >> all right. let's discuss this cnn legal analyst paul callan and attorney and radio host mo ivory. mo, i start with you, grand juries are supposed to be
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secretive. but this is also the better way to have conducted this phase of the investigation. right? because the alternative was to just leave it up to the prosecutor. here you have a representative body of the community hearing all the evidence and making a decision on whether or not to indict and go to trial. isn't that good? >> well, sure. i mean if the grand jury process is what someone has chosen. it could have been bet fer the prosecutors decided to do the investigation on his own. which of course he could have. and could have decided to charge darren wilson or not, so the transparency argument started way back when, in august. it's not just a transparency argument that started now. yes, a grand jury is a secret proceeding. things don't have to be brought to the public. but as we know, things have been leaking, you know throughout the entire process. >> i'm saying, mo, the presence that fewer going to have just me do the investigation, i get while you may be concerned. it's just me, what's my agenda. but this is a body of 12 people,
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nine of which have to agree and they come from your community. you know being, this is what would you say to the people of ferguson, they should like that bet, he shouldn't they? >> i understand the idea that they should like that better. but i think this is a very unique case it's not a grand jury or a situation where we can use the same premises that we have chosen. that's why that normally happened. so i think that's why there's been so much you know sort of dismay about the transparency or the idea that a grand jury is supposed to be secret. because it hasn't been secret. and so yes, the premise is that's what a grand jury does in a normal situation. but this is not a normal situation. >> leaks are also business as usual, around grand juries and big cases as we both know as well. grand juries talking is extraordinary. but let's move on to another point. paul, i had given high praise to the prosecutor for presenting michael badden's testimony about the medical exam he did, because he works for the family.
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now i hear that the grand jury asked for it, not the prosecutor. does that change your analysis? >> not at all. it's not unusual for grand juries to intervene and say to the prosecutor, hey, we'd like another piece of evidence here. one of the reasons why a grand jury is a good thing to use, is it's an investigative body. they can subpoena evidence. if a prosecutor just wants to give a one-sided presentation, they can you know, tell him they want more evidence. the other thing is i think it's very disturbing in terms of the press coverage of this case, it has sort of been this suggestion that there's some sort of secret conspiracy going on behind closed doors here. and i have to disagree with mo that there's something unique about this case. it's a tragic case, certainly. but there are shootings, police shootings that occur in cities across the country all the time. and grand jury investigations are done. but the grand jury, you know, your beef would be with george washington, benjamin frank lynn and james madison. because they put it in the u.s. constitution for the federal system originally and the states copied that.
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it's a good system, because you can test statements under oath. which is another thing you don't hear about. we hear witnesses giving press conference statements about what they saw and how do we know whether they're trying to tell the truth or maybe be more entertaining to get on television? in the grand jury, under oath, cross-examination to see if you actually could see what you say you could see. that's why i think the grand jury is a good choice of investigative body here. >> i got to get out of this. let me get one quick take from both of you on what would it mean, what could it mean if there's an additional shot to the chest? >> this badden's you know, revised opinion in the case, i think certainly helps the case against the officer. because it shows more force being used. however, in the end, his claim is that he had to fire all of those shots to stop a man who was trying to tackle him and take his gun away. so that's what i presume his defense was in front of the grand jury. so -- >> chris, i'm just happy that
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the grand jury did ask for badden's testimony. and did ask him to come forward. it's suspect that mccullough would not present this evidence and want to hear directly from badden. but i'm very glad that he had that opportunity. and also to present that there was even more excessive force than we originally thought. i'm hoping that that means that they will look more closely into you know, because we've been hearing lately that it seems like there would be no indictment. and this seems to take a little bit of a different turn and hopefully end up with an indictment. >> mo ivory, paul callan, no matter what your disposition is about what you want to see happen, the effort here is to clarify these things. because what we all know is true is there's been a rush to judgment. whether you think it's in favor of the officer's actions or against them, there's been a rush to judgment here. and we don't even know what the grand jury is really hearing. this is one of the stories we'll be following up until the indictment. there's other news, so let's get
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to it. the battle brewing over immigration reform. >> this is something that needs to be done. it's way overdue. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail. if he continues down this path. >> he has the government that he has. not the one that he wishes he had. a bad day for the secret service. >> rule number one is you don't take your earpiece out of your ear. is the leader of isis out of hiding? >> we cannot confirm. >> we cannot confirm his status. >> we don't have any new information. >> make no mistake, we will succeed. good morning, everyone, welcome back to "new day," i'm alisyn camerota alongside chris cuomo. president obama appears to be on the verge of signing an executive order that would bypass congress to enact immigration reform. this is expected to protect millions of immigrants from deportation. it has other details in it that may surprise republicans. it is guaranteed to cause anger among the gop who are of course about to take power in washington. incoming nate majority leader,
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mitch mcconnell, said the president needs to work with republicans on this issue. >> the american people elected divided government. and we'd like for the president to recognize the reality that he has the government that he has. not the one he wishes he had. and work with us to try to find a way to improve our immigration system. >> the president appears to be out of patience with waiting for cooperation. the question is how costly could the political showdown be for both sides? most importantly, for you. let's bring in cnn's jim acosta covering all of that from myanmar, which is where the president is, of course. what's the word from there? >> chris, at a news conference here in myanmar, president obama vow ed once again he will take executive action by the end of the year on immigration. white house officials are indicating the order could come within days and the president is expected to go big. he's already given deportation relief to undocumented children
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and teens known as dreamers. and sources tell cnn the president is expected to extend the policy to the undocumented parents of those dreamers and to undocumented parents of children who are u.s. citizens or green card holders. the president has been under pressure from latino groups for years to stop splitting up families through deportation, today he said executive action is coming despite howls from republicans. >> i gave the house over a year to go ahead and at least give a vote to the senate bill. they failed to do so. and i indicated to speaker boehner, several months ago, that if in fact congress failed to act, i would use all the lawful authority that i possess to try to make the system work better. and that's going to happen, that's going to happen before the end of the year. >> now, a senior white house official said the president has not reviewed the administration's final recommendations and has not made a decision yet. but that official caution, the general plan is in place and
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that this isn't like the academy awards, where an envelope is opened up and everybody is surprised. and aides to the president are insisting he will not scale down his immigration plan to yield to furious republicans. the white house is clearly gearing up for battle when the president returns back to washington. chris? >> jim acosta, thank you very much. alisyn? >> let's bring someone in who knows the inner workings of the administration. former white house press secretary jay carney. good morning, jay, great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> let's start with what cnn has learned about the details that the president is considering using executive action in terms of immigration. his immigration reform plan. let me put these up on the screen for people at home. he's considering protecting parents of babies born in the united states. also, parents of children illegally brought to the u.s. and in this country for at least five years. then, more resources to protect the border and convicted
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criminals would face deportation more than they supposedly are now. but jay, it's those first two issues, of protecting parents of babies born here or children brought here illegally that will make republicans' heads explode. why is the president starting with such a contentious issue? >> well i think that's the population you have to go after, in fact they're the most sympathetic population. you have a child that's born in the united states, and therefore, a united states citizen. and yet you're illegal. you live in the shadows, it makes it extremely difficult and creates a life of uncertainty if you you know cannot raise your child without the fear of deportation. so i think -- those are, that's the population group you want to go after. look, i said on election night or the day after that i thought there was some risk with for the president to go forward with this executive action. but i think it's clear that the white house has decided that the risk of not acting, the risk of having said he would do
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something and then putting the brakes on, is greater for him politically. and i think and i know that in the white house they view this as an opportunity to help millions of people and to do the right thing on our border and to dot right thing for our economy, on the one hand. versus the hope of maybe seeing some congressional action that we haven't seen for years already. >> and jay, i mean obviously you're giving the sympathetic view and the view that millions of people hold that you don't want to split up families. but the view that many conservatives have and many republicans have, they call these babies born here, anchor babies. they believe that it's an inducement even to bring illegal immigrants here, to have babies and for legal immigrants to bring their children here, knowing that they'll get protection, did just seems like that issue in particular is such a hot-button. that to start with it in the plan is almost setting the president up for a fight with republicans. >> well, i think the republicans have made clear that they're going to fight this. in whatever way that they can.
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and i think that we'll have to see whether they are going to do what they've said or suggested, which is withhold funding from a government authorization bill. a funding authorization bill. which could lead to some kind of shutdown or partial shutdown of the government or a failure of an agency to get the funds it needs to function. and then we're back where we have been in the past, with that confrontation between congress and the white house. in which congress looks like it's being particularly obstinate and the president at least has clarity in what he's doing. the risk associated with it because of the reasons you mentioned. but i think that alienating latino groups, alienating other who is believe that immigration reform is the right thing to do is a bigger risk for the president. let's move on to obama care and the inflammatory comments caught on camera by one of the consultant who is helped write the affordable care act. jonathan gruber, a year ago he was telling students about how the confusion surrounding obama
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care actually helped get the bill passed. listen to this. >> you have a law which says healthy people are going to pay in. he made it explicit, healthy people pay in, sick people get covered, would not have passed. the lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. basically that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass. >> jay, it sounds like he's saying, the lack of transparency helped get it passed because the american vote remembers too stupid to know what was in it. how do you explain this comment? >> i think it's enormously condescending and it's politically harmful. look, the fact of the matter is, you know, the american people i think followed this debate very closely for a long time. most of the surveys i've seen, show what the americans know and don't know about the health care reform act. is that if anything, they know the bad things and they're less aware of the good provisions that are provided within it.
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so if there was an attempt to deceive by the administration or the drafters of the legislation, they failed. but i think this is a problem. because it reinvigorates the effort on capitol hill to go after the affordable care act and most importantly, you know it could give more energy to those who are trying to overturn the affordable care act through the supreme court which is really the primary threat in the near-term to obama kacare, that the supreme court action. >> jay, i understand you say his comments are sort of reprehensible in terms of this. but were you there when the affordable care act was being debated inside washington. is what he said true? was there an intentional clouding of the details because you didn't want the american public to know that really people were going to have to pay more into the system, so that people without insurance were going to get the benefits. and if you ever spelled it out that way, that yes, premiums might go up and yes, you might lose your plan and you might
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lose your doctor, that nobody would ever have gone along with it? >> i would say that no matter what you're doing in washington, whether you're writing a bill on capitol hill or selling one from the white house, you try to make your strongest arguments. the stronger arguments were the macro arguments, that overall the system would lead to reduced costs, that millions of americans would get health insurance that they couldn't get otherwise or would get it more cheaply than they were getting it. but certainly some people would pay more. healthy young americans who might not choose to get insurance, would have to and obviously would pay more than nothing in the past. than just availing themselves of emergency rooms. >> were you capitalizing on the confusion at some level? >> no. look i think if you go back to what people know about the affordable care act what they don't know, you know the benefits that they like, that they tend to like, which is that you cannot be denied coverage if you have a preexisting condition. you can't have caps on your coverage. women can't be charged more just because they're women than men.
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a lot of those things that i think the architects of obamacare wish the american people understood. they don't know. they know most of the negative stuff that opponents put out. if the charges do you know, do you go out and try to argue your strongest case? yes. but i think the reality is, the administration, including when i was part of it, didn't do a very good job of making that case. >> jay carney, thanks so much. always great to get your insight. nice to see you. let's go to michaela for more. here's a look at your headlines, beginning with ebola coming back to the u.s. a surgeon infected is going to be flown to the university of nebraska medical center for treatment likely tomorrow. the unidentified man was born in sierra leone but is a legal resident of the u.s. a perfect storm of missteps allowed white house fence jumper omar gonzales to penetrate the building, aordering to a review by the department of homeland
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security. it reveals organizational confusion, gaps in training and communication failures. among the blunders -- radios and alarms that didn't work. an officer talking on his cell phone, he had an attack dog with him as all of the breach unfolded. shades of the nsa, at the justice department. "the wall street journal" is reporting that doj is flying small planes around the country, with equipment that mimics cell phone towers. those devices are essentially tricking cell phones on commercial flights into sending data. the program is supposedly to target criminal suspects. but data from innocent passengers is also getting caught up in the flow. well, apparently a billion dollars is not enough for sue ann hamm, she claims she was short-changed in a ruling in his with divorce from oklahoma oil magnate harold hampb mm. a judge allows him to keep 94%
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of profits. the marriage lasted 26 years, as it stands, this is one of the largest divorce judgments in u.s. history she said it grossly undervalues the marital wealth that she's entitled to. >> why doesn't she get $9 billion. >> that's half. >> it's about the percentage. did she help build it? was she there with him? is this something they did together? you're saying you would take the $1 billion and be with you. >> who needs $1 billion? honestly? it makes me crazy. >> she's thinking why would i let you keep money when i'm getting divorced from you. >> i'm just saying. >> how will she survive? >> with $1 billion. too much money for a person. >> 50/50 is generally what they do. >> this isn't about the amount, it's about the share. >> i don't agree with you. >> sadly i'm not married to you. >> he makes a good point.
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she makes a good point now. all right one of our top stories to tell but, as they duke it out over being, whether they should be married. there's a chilling new message purportedly from the leader of isis days after reports he was supposedly killed by airstrikes. what is the new threat to the west? we're live on the ground with the latest. and bill cosby set off a social media firestorm. we'll tell you why, his problems go far beyond what he did online. allegations of rape have surfaced, we'll speak to one of his accusers, one of them. ever since we launched snapshot, my life has been positively cray-cray. what's snapshot, you ask? only a revolutionary tool that can save you big-time. just plug it in, and the better you drive, the more cash you'll stash. switching to progressive can already save ye $500. snapshot could save ye even more. meat maiden! bringeth to me
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welcome back to your "new day." turns out rumors of the death of the isis leader seem to have greatly exaggerated. there's new audio of the guy calling for jihad on the west and extremists seem to be heeding the call. as new alliances are being built to combat the coalition. and there's another front for you to be concerned about. russian troops apparently are pouring into ukraine, more than ever. the question is is that country about to descend into all-out war. complete coverage, starting with arwa damon in turkey following all the developments with isis. arwa, what do we know? >> good morning, chris. the audio purportedly by abu bakr al-baghdadi released via one of the official media sites linked to isis. about 17 minutes long.
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we can't independently verify its authenticity. but it does at the least same at this stage that isis has one goal in mind, that is to continue to push itself forward as being an entity that no matter what, cannot be destroyed. there are some clues, however, in this audio recording as to when it may have been taken. he talks, al baghdadi talks about the 1500 troops the u.s. is sending and has begun to send into iraq. also he expresses isis' acceptance of a number of other extremist groups who recently pledged their allegiance. just over the last few days. these are groups from yemen tunisia, egypt, algeria, saudi arabia. for those in saudi arabia he had a specific message, calling on them to specifically target the saudi royal family. he most certainly at this stage seems to be alive and well. no clue as to whether or not he was injured. but again isis also in that
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recording, calling for all of its supporters to conduct in the words of al-baghdadi, a volcano, chris, of jihad. >> arwa, thank you very much, the threat is troubling and that it's being responded to, more troubling. now to the ukraine, where fears about russian aggression are ramping up. world lead remembers set to vent their frustrations at the g-20 summit tomorrow. meanwhile, phil black is live for news ukraine with the latest developments, what's happening, phil? >> well, alisyn, russia insists it does no the have any sort of military presence in ukraine. that sounds familiar and again, nato, united states, ukrainian government, independent european observers believe that there has been an influx of soldiers, heavy weapons, advanced weaponry, including anti-aircraft batteries as well. into separatist-controlled territory from across the border in russia, in recent days. the question is, what does this
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mean? and the ukrainian government believe it is knows what is coming next, because it says through experience, that whenever there has been an influx of these so-called little green men, unmarked soldiers, professional, well-armed, clearly very capable, whenever they've arrived in ukraine, it's had a very decisive impact on events on the ground. so the ukrainian government is fearing some sort of military strike. it's just a question of how big, where, well the ukrainian government says it is preparing for the worst. alisyn? >> those are all the questions this morning, phil black, thank you. let's go to chris. let's tackle all of these different headlines with someone who is going to be able to give us answers. general wesley clark, former nato supreme allied commander and author of "don't wait for the next war: a strategy for american growth and leadership." general thanks so much for being with us. let me start with something that's a little macro here that goes to the heart of what's in your book. when we see these coalitions being formed by isis now and how
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the situation is stretching out, egypt having its own extremist pledge allegiance, is this a nod to the reality that you cannot win this with military alone? that there has to be individual sovereigns battling extremism in their own countries and that that is the path to putting the threat down? >> i think that's exactly right. you can't win it with military alone. you can't win it from the united states with u.s. forces. this is all of this is an expression of a 300-year struggle with islam to come to terms with western modernization. and so it's going to take a prolonged effort, sometimes there will be military force used. a lot of it will be cultural, some of it will be economic. there are many different things. and this is a long-term challenge. so we're not going to solve this tomorrow or the next day. before the next election. or even during the incumbency of the next president. >> there is hesitancy to seem to be extending the mission in
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washington. is the reality that you do have to think about bashar al assad and what to do about him in syria, in order to be effective in the goal? >> well that's exactly right. because you can't just bomb, even if you put troops on the ground, against isis, if you can't govern the space, then some other group of terrorists will be there. so if you don't want bashar al assad to govern it, who will? now there is a moderate group of syrians, they claim to be the opposition, we've worked with them and funded them for over three years now. they're going to have to be reexamined and washington's going to have to decide if it doesn't want to support this moderate group, then who will it support? how will it propose to govern this ungoverned space? >> then when you look at afghanistan and iraq, as you well know, general it gets tricky. you replace one set of bad guys, and who comes in next? do you get the results you wanted? often you wind up dispointed and
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cycling back to the same situation we are right now. let's look at the new front, which is the old front as well in ukraine. do you believe there's any question, you know that terrain and the politics of that country very well, general. do you think there's any question that the russians are moving in? >> oh, there's no question about it. i was in ukraine last week. i spent two hours with the president, i met with the minister of defense. i met with battalion commanders. they fought the russians. of course many of these ukrainians, the older ones, they actually grew up in the soviet union days, some of them served in the russian army. they know what they're talking about. and the russians are bringing in the most modern equipment. so we're not dealing here with equivalent of isis, which is stealing equipment and doesn't have any manufacturing capabilities. this is russia's effort to try out its brand-new military. new radars, new artillery pieces. new command and control technologies. this is the up-to-date russian military against a country that
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ukraine were, the nations of the west won't even allow it to buy weapons to defend itself as of now. this is really dangerous situation, it appears that russian military action is imminent. >> the question is what is their goal, how far will they extend. general, thank you for your thoughts thus far. please let me call on you again as the situation there develops. there's few we can go do to get better answers than you. >> thank you. >> alisyn? a controversial story for everyone. bill cosby has been fighting back rape allegations for years. but his own twitter campaign has reignited the firestorm. how his social media blunder could endanger the image he's spent a lifetime building. one of his accusers is speaking out about what happened to her. and unlikely voice coming forward in favor of sports betting -- find out why nba commissioner adam silver says it's good for professional sports. if there's betting.
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startling allegations have resurfaced about one of america's most beloved comedians, bill cosby has been haunted by sexual assault allegations for years. in this new digital age, a seemingly harmless internet post from cosby turned into a social media nightmare. in a moment we'll hear live from one of his accusers. but first, ted rowlands has the story. we should mention that cosby's representatives say they don't want to respond to old resurfacing allegations.
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>> an online publicity stunt is back-firing so badly on bill cosby it is endangering the image he has spent a lifetime building. the 77-year-old comedy genius, who never swears on stage and who plays the wholesome dr. huxtable for years on the "cosby show" is causing old sexual abuse allegations to resurface. on monday, cosby issued a challenge to capture a few classic photos, writing go ahead, meme me. my two favorite things, jello pudding and rape was written over this rape of cosby smiling. look at this wacky shirt i'm wearing, also, i'm a serial rapist tweeted another person. the rapist label stems from allegations made years ago when several women came forward claiming they had been sexually assaulted by cosby. he was never charged with a crime. but the allegations have lingered for years. the most detailed allegations
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against bill cosby appeared in a lawsuit filed in 2005 by a temple university employee who claimed she was drugged and assaulted by cosby. police investigated, but did not charge cosby due to lack of evidence. the civil suit was settled confidently. the same type of story was alleged by tamara green who went public with her story nine years ago on the "today show." >> he gone from helping me to groping me and kissing me and touching me and handling me. and taking off my clothes. >> over the years, cosby through his attorneys has repeatedly denied sexually assaulting anyone. ted rowlands, cnn. >> bill cosby has a new series with nbc that is supposed to debut next year, it's unclear how if at all this new look at old allegations will affect not only that show, but also his legacy. cnn cannot independently confirm the allegations against bill cosby. over to michaela for more. >> we want to pick up on that
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right now. because we have somebody here in studio with us who has, has said that she is not going to back down on telling her story. barbara bowman alleges she was sexually assaulted by bill cosby when she was a teenaged actress. she's been speaking about this for years. i'm so grateful that you are finding the courage to sit down and talk about this, your story. you wrote a really startling, moving, captivating piece in the "washington post." it's entitled "bill cosby raped me." why did it take 30 years for people to believe me. >> yes. >> why did it take 30 years for this to be happening in your estimation? >> that is a good question. and i think that all victims want to know the same thing. because so many victims are not reporting their crimes. there's such a stigma attached to the victim. it's a fear, it's the shame of what had happened. and when you're dealing with someone of power and prestige
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and celebrity. >> which is the case, we see. >> and wealth and fame, it is a, a whole different scenario. so when you're young and impressionable, and placed in a very highly, highly controlled environment, which i was, and brain-washed terribly to trust and have total 100% vulnerability. as a young actress, he was appointed to me to groom me and mentor me through my agent. so when i was 17 in denver, up and coming and wanting to become an actress and movie star, my agent knew him. and he came out to do just that. so when i came to new york, that was all part of it. it was they were subsidizing my housing. and my acting classes. and i was doing acting work with him and i was often in private environments. >> you're 17 years old. you're wide-eyed, you're eager and you have somebody taking an interest in you. >> that's right.
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that's right. and because of the circumstances, like i said, it was very controlled. he zeroed right in on my vulnerabilities, which was, had no father figure. so there was no man to come knocking on his door. to find out what's going down. and when these things started happening, i wasn't silent. i told my agent what was going down. >> what was the reaction? >> she did nothing. i believe she's as culpable as he is. because in my inside, i believe she did know what was going on. so her doing nothing was a protective measure on her part. >> did you tell other people? >> i didn't tell her, i told her, but i didn't talk about it much, because nobody was believing it. and it was just, i was in a situation, i was in new york, my job was to work hard, go to classes, don't ask questions. just be grateful for this amazing opportunity. don't mess it up. so when things would come up and he would start making me uncomfortable and i knew something was going on. i would start asking questions
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and woe say, you know what, you don't trust me. you got to trust me. and by the way, you were drunk. and i didn't drink. and i certainly wasn't doing anything but exactly what i was supposed to do. in 1989, di did go to a lawyer. a friend talked me into doing that, eventually. he laughed me right out of the office. it was terrible, humiliating, scary. >> saying there was no way to prove this. he was dr. huxtable, it wouldn't happen. >> we have america's favorite dad and a lot of people will say this does not square up with mr. cosby that we know from tv. >> that's exactly right. so what happened was i just gave up. because it was very clear to me, he said it right to my face, point-blank, i better never, ever see your face or hear your name again. so after going to my agent and going to the lawyer, and getting smacked down both times, i just said, let me just get on with my life. move on with my life and let it
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go. and in 2004, finally when one woman did have the courage to come forward and file a lawsuit, i said i will not sit in silence any more. i believe this woman. they were dragging her through the mud. calling her a liar. and i said, i believe her because it happened to me. and if i do nothing but get out there and support her, and let people know that she's not lying, that is going to be my mission from here forward. i had nothing to gain by staying out in the public eye, giving my name, giving my identity to talk about this. >> because then people came after you. >> and my, yes, my statute of limitations had long run out. >> you wanted to help someone else. >> i wanted to help her and i made it my mission to get out here and help other victims, that's what this is all about. >> so that's why people are going to say why now. but we should sort of follow the bouncing ball. this comes up now and again, over time. we'll hear women's stories coming up and then it goes away and then another story will come up.
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it came up against recently because this comedian lambasted bill cosby, hannibal burris called him all sorts of names, accusing him of accusations of things we've heard about before. did it make you feel like finally somebody is listening when you see a little bit more attention being paid? or does it frustrate you? >> no, i was quite surprised and glad that a celebrity stepped up. because this is not a secret in hollywood. obviously people in hollywood, they're listening to the news, too, they know what's going on. >> so why doesn't it get prosecuted then? why if they're this, if this is happening repeatedly, why is there no action? i think so many of us are struggling to understand that. >> yes, and that's a great question and i get asked that all the time. i think that one of the issues is that in 2005, when this case was going to court, and we were testifying, she settled out of court. so that meant that all 13 women were not going to testify. so that just shut it down. it's a subject that people don't
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want to talk about. the mainstream media does not want to deal with it. it's just now becoming important enough for worldwide attention. and because of the situation with the fame and the celebrities and the power and the media, the media doesn't want to make enemies. and the media has to really kind of follow some jurisdiction and he does a lot of really great damage control. he was surrounded by -- he's got people around him, toor sure. >> he was surrounded by a thick team confederates, lawyers and attorneys and people to protect him. >> barbara, what do you want to have happen? >> i'm working with an organization called p.a.v.e., appointed an ambassador to do public speaking on behalf of victims around the world. promoting awareness through victim empowerment. i'm so grateful for this organization. it gives me a platform. one thing, i'd like to have a call for legislation against the statute of limitations.
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there's no reason that sexual crimes should be gotten away with because there is an appointed period of time that a woman has to come forward. it takes some women their entire lifetime to come forward. it is a very difficult, very strenuous, very soul-crushing situation to be in. and when people don't believe you at the beginning, it really falls on the shoulders of those first couple of people that you talk to. >> and for that reason, i'm so glad that you are speaking out, barbara. >> thank you, i will continue. >> and on behalf of other people who have found themselves in this situation for giving them a voice, thank you for that. thank you very much for sitting with us today. >> thank you. i'm going to keep on talking as long as people are listening. >> please do. chris? thanks, mick. betting on sports -- you know what? it should be legal. who would say that? how about an nba commissioner, adam silver. he has reasons, he wrote an op-ed, it may surprise you.
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comcast business. built for business. nba commissioner adam silver says betting on sports ought to be legally acknowledge and regulated. he has a piece in "the new york times" calling sports betting inevitable. he might be right. fantasy leagues are everywhere. betting lines and sports books all over the place online. what's going on? new jersey is trying to bring it to their casinos. let's discuss it by bringing in cnn legal analyst danny savalos. pro or con, let's do this quick? >> the quick, i can't. >> pick a side? >> well i'll take pro. pro levelizing gambling, chris. >> pro legalizing gambling. >> there's no greater hypocrisy than the government saying
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gambling is immoral and therefore illegal, and yet they spend billions of dollars encouraging citizens to shuffle down to the quickie mart in their bath robe and spend money they don't have on lottery scratchers. that's the problem. there's such hypocrisy. outlaw it completely or the realistic view is it's going on, people are making money on the black market, permit it, license it, regulate it. >> danny cevvalos, i will submit this a different level of moral turpitude. you could influence the outcome of the game. could you athletes compromise their judgments on the field of play in pursuit of money. it is dangerous and it was for a very long time run by organized crime. that may have gone away. but the risk is too great to legalize it. keep it the way it is. >> great point, chris, except the risk of affecting the outcome of a game will exist whether or not gambling is legal or illegal.
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that's what the nba realizes. it's no surprise that this opinion comes out. not too long after the third circuit court of appeals issued a very confusing ruling on the legality of gambling sports wagering in new jersey. and i think the nba, this is forced the hand of the leagues, they have to decide whether or not they want to be behind sports gambling or still remain against it. it's whether or not or how these industries and governments can figure out a way to tax it, or profit from it. >> what have they figured out in terms of how it works online. most of the places are based in outside jurisdictions, like the cayman islands. didn't they use the radio act of 1940 to say you're still transmitting over wires so we can regulate it and tax it. did that work? >> of course, yes. and a lot of these sites have been shut down. the problem is that because they are off-shore, they're difficult to shut down and frankly for
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consumers they're not exactly a safe bet. because you have no recourse. if you, if you make your winnings and you can't collect. so those have been shut down in a patchwork way. the real issue with, with commissioner silver is whether or not these leagues are going to be behind legalized gambling. whether online, whether fantasy sports, whether in casinos or otherwise. over the phone, however. are we going to get rid of the black market and similar to marijuana legislation, take it out of the black market and make it government-approved and legislated and regulated. >> thank you for raising marijuana. i will end on that point as well. as a society, do you want to feed things that are bad for us? is that what you want the social instruction to be? that yes, it goes on, yes, it's seeming to sneak its head into more and more mainstream avenues of media. but do you want to encourage things that we believe are bad? and there are many people who believe that not only is gambling a regressive tax on the
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poor, but it feeds addiction and it's a mistake. those are the two sides. i think we did a fair side of it. the question is, where will people fall on this? where will our leaders fall on it. danny cevvalos, did you a very good job and have outdressed me once again. we have these discussions, not just so we can show that danny is smarter than i am. we're trying to feed what you're already talking about and what matters to you, so weigh in and i'll try to answer and danny will, as much as possible. facebook us or tweet us. alisyn? meanwhile, first dances are special for any newly married couple. but michelle and johnny johnson's is particularly incredible. his paralysis could not keep him from dancing with his new bride. we'll speak with that couple there they are, the newlyweds. but first this sunday at 9:00 p.m. on cnn's "parts unknown"
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paralyzed veteran found a way to dance with his bride on their wedding day. joey johnson served in afghanistan but when he got home a motorcycle accident left him paralyzed. still, joey wanted to surprise his pride on their wedding day by getting out of his wheelchair for their first dance. we're thrilled to welcome them both here to "new day," michelle and joey johnson. hey, guys. >> hi. >> hey, how are you? >> doing well. great to see you. joey, you must be really good at keeping a secret. >> not at all, ma'am, not at all. >> because we understand that michelle had planned this wedding down to every last detail but somehow you managed to keep it a secret that for months you were preparing for this. how did you do it? >> well, only three people knew about it, her mom, the matron of honor and then the two guys that were holding the ropes, which were my military buddies. >> so your military buddies were part of this whole secret but
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joey, explain, how were you able to get up out of your wheelchair physically to perform this? >> well, it's a special harness that's used for extracting troops out of basically like tree lines, and it hooks to the back of the harness and hoists them up, and my boss, whoi served with in afghanistan staff sergeant frank figuere, he brought it, he was like hey, this will work, let's do it. put it on and worked perfectly. >> we're watching this moment, michelle, when you first come into the room and you see joey standing for the first time in two years, tell us your thoughts. >> i was shocked, emotional, i think words can't even try how i was feeling at the moment. i had no clue and i had about 200 people watching me, but i couldn't even see the people in the crowd. it was just amazing and
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surprising and emotional and tons of emotions going through me. >> joey, what was it like for you to see michelle's face? >> i was nervous, to be honest with you. because the harness, i had to lean forward so that's why there was another guy, my best man, jeremy brown, he has to hand me off to her because otherwise i would have taken a face plant, that would not have been very pretty. >> and he didn't want to practice it either. >> no, i was nervous that she wouldn't get it, the idea, and she was just going to stand there and not realize that she had to grab me. >> oh. but she got it perfectly, and yes, the face plant would have lent a different feel, i believe. >> yes. >> and a bunch of different views. >> yes. but michelle, what was that dance like? >> just to be, i mean we haven't been able to be eye to eye in
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almost two years and it was just amazing just to see his face and for him to do that for me, for him to surprise me for even for him to think of the idea, it's just amazing and it just shows how much he loves me and you know, wants to do things for me and he was very romantic, so you know. >>. i keep messing up valentine's day. >> why? what do you get wrong? >> one year instead of getting flowers, i bought her a computer because she needed a computer. >> all i want is the flowers. >> flowers and a card. next year i wrote a letter, a long love letter, not good enough. >> not good enough? >> she wanted flowers. >> i just want flowers. maybe i'll get it, this right this year but we have a lot of time. >> joey, listen, no appliances, all right, on valentine's day. i believe that's generally the rule. >> yes, ma'am.
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understood. >> your faces are just so beautiful now and in those pictures of your wedding day. you look like real row map ticks and it's so poignant there to see how much you love each other so thanks so much for sharing this personal day with us. it's a really inspiring story. joey and michelle johnson, great to meet you guys. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you for having us. >> thanks for all the support, everybody, all the comments. we can't even believe how much it's taken off, but we really appreciate everybody giving us support. >> and go colts. >> you snuck it in. you snuck it in. >> yes, ma'am, i did. >> just to upset john berman, if he were here. >> yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am. >> got it. michelle and joey, best of luck to you, thanks so much. >> hey, everyone. >> thank you. >> let's get over to chris. >> they are such a beautiful couple that even i will endorse his being a fan of the colts. they've made it through a difficult part of life together, and that is a great sign for the rest of their marriage, all
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. >> breaking overnight, president obama has a plan to overhaul the immigration system on his own, an executive order on anchor babies entitling millions to stay in the u.s. republicans say this would be war. is the word shutdown actually being used already? chilling message, the leader of isis reportedly calling the u.s. coalition "terrified, weak and powerless" this as isis may be forming a new alliance. mystery illness, a strange illness has paralyzed 75 children in some 29 states. doctors are baffled, parents terrified. we have an update for you this morning on what health officials
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are trying to do. >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning, welcome back to your new day. happy friday on this november 14th, just after 8:00 in the east. chris cuomo and alisyn camerota here with news that president obama is pushing the envelope on immigration. he plans to take executive action and soon, perhaps as soon as next week. he says the system is broken and he can no longer wait for congress to fix it. >> republican leaders are ready for the challenge, house speaker john boehner says they will fight the president "tooth and nail." the plan itself we're told is still coming together but it could protect millions from deportation. we have comprehensive coverage with michelle kosinski at the white house and athena jones in washington. good morning, ladies. michelle, let me start with you, the president is starting with something contentious.
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>> they know that it's going to be an issue with republicans. this has been well-known, it's been talked about for more than a year now that the president is going to do this, but what the white house says is, well, look, we've been talking about this for so long, congress had many, many chances to pass comprehensive immigration reform. it's not as if they haven't been warned. the president has almost given them a deadline to act, and they haven't acted. here's some of what he said during his asian trip. >> i gave the house over a year to go ahead and at least give a vote to the senate bill. they failed to do so. and i indicated to speaker boehner several months ago that if, in fact, congress failed to act, i would use all the lawful authority that i possess to try to make the system work better. and that's going to happen. that's going to happen before the end of the year. >> he's also said that there could be some tempered some of his statements at times saying,
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you know what? i'm going to do this, but if congress then passes something to supersede what i have done through executive action, well, they can do that, too, so congress, of course, has that option to act after the president acts, and that could change the whole thing but what the president has said clearly, wants to get done is some kind of reform of what he calls the broken immigration system, alisyn. >> athena, there are at least two big lightning rod issues in this plan that we're told he is considering, namely that he would protect the parents of babies born here in the united states and also he would protect the parents of children brought here illegally. so these are two issues that the republicans probably will not take sitting down. >> no, and this is already an explosive issue on capitol hill, listen to some of the language that we've heard from republican leader, you heard house speaker john boehner say they'll fight tooth and nail and also said the president will get burned if he goes around congress and goes it alone on the immigration
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actions. let's listen to the latest warning from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. he's going to be the majority leader come january. let's listen to what he had to say just yesterday. >> the american people elected divided government and we'd like for the president to recognize the reality that he has the government that he has, not the one that he wishes he had, and work with us to try to find a way to improve our immigration system. >> now senator mcconnell has also said the president going around congress is going to poison the well with congress, they won't be able to get anything done. what's unclear is just what republicans on the hill are going to do to fight back. we know one of the next big things that has to be passed on the hill is a spending bill to make sure the government is funded, so what's going to happen with that, that's the big question, alisyn. >> a great question. athena jones, michelle cokinsky thanks so much for laying it out for us this morning. over to chris. >> let's play through the thinking here, michael
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smerconish, host of cnn's "smerconish" a cnn political commentator and host of "the michael smerconish program" on sirius xm. where are the republicans on this? >> if i'm in the republican party and looking at this, i have to be cognizant of what's coming in 2016 i a suming i really want to win the white house. i'm cop convinced a number of individuals in the house and senate are only concerned about self-preservation but they need to be worried about their ability to win in 2016 and in order to do so, they need the hispanic vote. neil neuhaus, mitt romney's pollster in 2012 said if if the dynamics stay the same they'll need 64% of the white vote, that far exceeds anything that john mccain or mitt romney were able to obtain. so they're playing with fire on this, is my point. >> why do we keep hearing the disposition is that they want to do nothing until the end of the year. isn't that kind of telling the voters you brought us in to get
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things done, we all say we will and now we're not going to it? >> the chaipging dynamic of the senate. they want to wait until they're in control. >> wait until they have their seats. >> this plays to the base, make no mistake about it, obs netine. i can tell from you answering the telephone the core constituent of the gop regards this as nothing short of amnesty. >> do they? let's think through what theish sue on the other side. this issue is called the anchor babies, i used that term this morning, i shouldn't have, it's ugly and offensive to what it is. what it goes to is the root of the most destructive part of our current immigration policy, splitting up families. they come here, here illegally, they have a baby and the family gets split up, maybe the kid stays. we don't have a workable fomgs. this goes to the heart of the latino vote because it shows a real lack of sympathy, you have to come up with some kind of
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fix, so why avoid this one? don't you have to take it on? >> in other words you would think this would be the easier fix and would fit with a core tenet of the gop which is all about family values. >> that's right. >> to your point, i think that's why jeb bush if you remember several months ago when he started to float that trial balloon pertaining to 2016 his words were "i regard this as an act of love" and i think he was making your point, that didn't go over so well in certain parts of the gop base. >> then do what the president threatens you with doing, pass your own bill that helps out these families one way or the other and own the issue, because it's going to come back to haunt you in 2016, it's going to come back earlier than that. >> so this is the solution. i think the solution that you've just identified is the president takes executive action at some point in the next two weeks but he delays implementation so he puts 30 days, he puts 60 days on the clock and he says to the gop controlled senate you have until the end of january, the end of february and if you don't like it, then you pass something that
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i can sign and it will supersede my executive action. that's the way out. >> because everything else about workers and general immigration gets into the weeds, it's going to be hard to compromise on but splitting up family, having these kids in the balance as political pawns is not the place to start. >> correct. >> switching topics, gruber, do you believe he's an architect of obamacare? >> i don't know. i really don't know. i paid attention to the videos. i watched it. he's getting thrown under the bus saying he wasn't that significant. look, the guy's a bit of a knucklehead to come out of mit and to say that. >> judge for yourself, listen to what that professor at mit said. >> a law which said healthy people are going to pay in, made explicit healthy pay in, sick people get the money, it would not have passedu.s. like people transparent, lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and basically call it the stupidity of the american
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voter or whatever but basically that was really, really critical to getting it to pass. >> i would call his quote, his characterization of americans, that's the arrogance of a certain type of professor class, but that's what do you with all legislation is sell what is best about it, right? isn't that what do you? >> so that's great fodder politically, right, because you can roll that out now and use it in the next cycle and it fits all of the talking points in terms of the haphazard way in which this was passed. so horrific that he would have said such a thing. i think the real issue is what else he has said that seems to support the plane of claim in the king case now going before the supreme court of the united states. that sound bite is the one getting all the attention but where he seems to buy into the contention of the plaintiffs who are seeking to strike down obamacare, that's where i think he really is going to play a significant role. >> and how so? >> well, because the argument in that case is that there shouldn't be subsidies in those states that didn't set up their own exchange. there is other tape out there,
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i've watched it, where he says that the whole purpose of setting up the subsidies was to encourage those states to set up their exchange. so you have to get into the weeds on this, but he seems to be supportive of that plane of contention and i suspect they'll try and use his argument, his verbiage in bringing down owe bo 'bamacare in front of the supreme court of the united states. >> what would make him that relevant? >> if, to go back to your initial point he really was the architect of obamacare. >> you'd have to have such proof that there was some type of pernicious design of this that was done to do something that was unlawful. >> chris, as you know this comes down to what was the intent, right, so you're going to have these house and senate staffers who are going to say the intent always was to provide subsidies regardless of whether you set up your exchange. boy, we sound like a couple of eggheads now and professor gruber makes that compact same argument. >> the intent of the law was to cover the uninsured and try deal with some of the runaway costs of health care as best they could at the time.
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there was a tremendous need. everybody knows it, who deals with health care. doesn't the conversation end there -- >> no. >> -- about the righteousness of purchase? >> no, i maintain in the king case those exchanges not set up by the states, those states that didn't set up changes and provide subsidies have to go away. if you take the subsidies away, the financial underpinning of the affordable care act is in jeopar jeopardy. >> you're saying it will have the practical effect of taking away the funding mechanism that makes obamacare work as opposed to undermy opinioning it as a hoax. >> correct. >> see, smerconish you have to slow down. takes me long enough to say your name, you got to slow down. >> i call the guy mit knucklehead, listen to me. >> no, you're smart and thank you for being on "new day." have a good weekend. >>ing milia and i slow it way down for chris, michael, okay, so remember that. >> there was speculation the leader of isis had been killed,
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but now a chilling, new message believed to be from abu bakr al baghdadi surfaced, it includes the u.s. and its allies. it said it will begin minting its own currency using gold, silver and copper. possible alliance between isis and al qaeda. cnn's arwa damon has more. >> reporter: is the leader of isis out of hiding? days after he was reportedly wounded, perhaps even killed in an air strike, an audio message purported by of abu bakr al baghdadi released by the group on social media. in the message he calls the u.s.-led coalition terrified, weak and powerless, and calls upon his followers to erupt volcanos of jihad everywhere. u.s. air strikes in syria have killed dozens of isis militants and are taking aim at the khorasan group.
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the latest round thursday targeting one top operative. al baghdadi deems the coalition air power a failure saying they will be forced to send ground forces to their deaths. the terrorist leader pointed to president obama's plan to send more troops under the claim their advisers, urging fighters to battle the tyrant and their soldiers and this, u.s. officials believe isis and the al qaeda-linked group al nusra are cooperating in an ad hoc limited bases on the battlefield in syria. so far no indication the two groups have a formal partnership but it could be a dangerous sign of alliances to come. only for the last several months have they not been working together. we are focused mostly on isil but we'll be tracking this closely. >> reporter: as the united states prepares to send 1,500 additional military personnel to iraq, the nation's top defense officials reiterated -- >> u.s. military personnel will not be engaged in a ground combat. >> but officials say iraq will
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need 80,000 of its own troops to recapture territory it has lost to isis, leaving the door open for greater u.s. involvement. >> i'm not predicting at this point that i would recommend that those forces in mosul and along the border would need to be accompanied by u.s. forces but we're certainly considering it. >> reporter: not surprising that dempsey at this stage would not want to take that potential option off the table. he and others know only too well just how volatile this situation in the region is and just how quickly it can change. when it comes to a u.s. strategy, however, as much as america may want to say that it does not need to intertwine the policies when it comes to syria and iraq, well, those two battlefields at this stage are effectively one. >> arwa damon, thanks so much for breaking it down for us. over to michaela for more news. >> 14 minutes past the hour. prosecutors have added terrorism to the charges against suspected pennsylvania cop killer eric
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frein. he is also facing the death penalty for allegedly killing state trooper brian dixon and wounding another. charges were upgraded after frein's apparent motive was revealed. he said he carried out the attack to wake people up and change the government. he was captured after a 4-day manhunt in northeast pennsylvania. lawmakers have drafted a bill proposing to block social accurate benefits for suspected nazi war criminals. the bipartisan legislation targets anyone who took part in the persecution of jews and others during world war ii, following reports dozens of nazi suspects collected millions of dollars in social security payments even after being forced out of the u.s. the house to vote on the keystone pipeline. it would transport crude oil to the gulf coast from canada. president obama has threatened to veto the bill if it passes congress, pending legal action
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on the actual pipeline route makes it hard to evaluate. some landowners and environmentalists expressed great concerns about this project. clayton kershaw is going to need a bigger trophy case. the l.a. dodgers star named the national league's most valuable player thursday, just a day after he won the cy young award as the league's best pitcher. that hasn't been done in the national league since, what, 1968, when hall of famer bill gibson did it. mike trout of the angels named american vp. good night to so. cal baseball just saying. >> very nice for you guys out west. >> i feel pretty great. why do i feel like you're going to say something -- >> chris can't argue with this but he's trying to find a way. >> you have to glyph the glory when it is due. >> excellent. >> and it is due, good for you. >> i keep waiting for an and. >> and a but. >> because you are inherently
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suspicious in a negative way but i stay positive. >> take a note what have time this was, everyone. one of our top stories he was believed to be dead but the leader of isis is apparently alive and issuing a warning for the u.s. we'll discuss that with fareed zakaria. plus kids across the nation suddenly becoming paralyzed, even worse, officials do not know what's causing it. is there a way to protect our kids? we're going to speak with a medical analyst.
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terrified, weak and powerless, that's what the leader of isis is calling the u.s.-led coalition an audiotape believed to be from al baghdadi was released days after there was speculation that he was killed in an air strike. so what are his latest threats and is there renewed reason for concern this morning? here to talk about all of it and more is cnn's fareed zakaria. he is the host of cnn's "fareed zakaria gps." thank you for coming into the studio. great to see you. >> pleasure. >> it appears al baghdadi was not killed because it refers to things that happened this week
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after he was thought to have possibly been taken out. how significant is the audiotape? >> it's not terribly significant. it's hard to target individuals. you have to have good intelligence, they have to stay put in one place, these kind of things take often months as we know from the bin laden raid, it took years and bin laden stayed in one place. baghdadi is moving around a lot. what is significant it reminds us the taunts, the bait that he sets because he wants the united states engaged. he wants to be the leader of the most important terrorist organization fighting the united states. he doesn't want to be one of the citizen radical groups competing for market share. he has effectively replaced al qaeda. the only way to do that is take on the 800 pound gorilla. >> he refers to more u.s. advisers are headed to anbar, a decision the president made and general martin dempsey yesterday said something that made it seem
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as though he is open to combat forces or as we call them boots on the ground, going back to iraq. listen to what he said. >> i'm not predicting at this point that i would recommend that those forces in mosul and along the border would need to be accompanied by u.s. forces but we're certainly considering it. >> what does that tell you, they're considering more u.s. forces helping along the border? >> i'll tell you what that's about, because i've talked to some people in the government. what's happening is the iraqi government is trying, has begun to make efforts to bring in the sunni dpribz trooibz and the reason you have the collapse in iraq, the sunnis are sympathizing, they feel exclu d excluded, they say we don't trust the shia government or army. we will only put skin in the game if the united states gets more involved but the united states takes the lead like the surge under david petraeus.
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the u.s. is considering whether in order to get this humpty dumpty of the iraqi army back together it should put more boots on the ground. the problem is how long do you stay and the minute the u.s. forces leave won't we be back to the same problem. the fundamental problem iraq as a nation is not sticking together. the shia don't include the sunnis and the sunnis don't trust the shia enough. they have to sort that out because it's an emergency now, there's an impulse to send people in. the minute you withdraw them you have the same problem all over again. >> maybe this is an impossible task to get iraq to stick together. >> senior people in the government told me maybe we should accept the ale reality of iraq and train the shia militias and sunni militias. there is already a kurdish militia and let them all fight, fighting on the same side rather
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than trying to create this unified iraqi army which will have shias and kurds happily living and fighting together. there is something to be said for maybe just a kind of coming to terms with reality rather than trying to impose this idea of a unitarian multisectarian iraq. >> otherwise it's impossible here at home and the u.s. not to hear it as mission creep. >> it is mission creep, there's no question it is. in iraq at least you have a coherent strategy which is you have a local partner on the ground, the united states can use air power, ground power. when you get to syria it gets complicated because you really don't have any local partners on the ground off significant strength and so what happens is, a wonderful report in the "new york times" points out in rakka, the united states has been bombing, the residents are upset, annoyed. not that they sympathize with isis it's that u.s. bombing just creates instability, just creates chaos.
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it means no electricity. it means no food, and so that's the problem with the bombing only strategy. bombing destabilizes. you need ground forces to then stabilize and there are few in syria that the united states can count on. >> let's move on to another chaotic hot spot, ukraine. nato says russian forces and equipment are prosing the border into ukraine, putin denies it. what is happening? >> everyone is puzzled by it. there seems to be one military rationale that makes sense which is these separatist towns are somewhat dispersed and so the russians might be trying to create a kind of defensive line, a defensible link among all these towns in eastern ukraine, towns that are pro-russian and that are, you know, in a sense vulnerable to the ukrainian government come in saying we're going to take back our territory or something. that might be the answer. i should say of course russian forces are going in, this is a
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standard tactic, they deny it and we later discover it was true. the most troubling part about what's happening here and this is parallel to the middle east is, we now have reports that almost 1.5 million people have left this area. half of them to russia, half of them to the other part of ukraine, so the area is getting depopulated which is a sign that the locals on the ground don't think the violence has funnish finished, they don't think the civil war is over. trust the locals they know when a cease-fire is real and holding and obviously they're telling us they think there's still some fighting to come. >> the g-20 summit starts tomorrow in australia. will other world leaders hold putin to task for all of this? >> you know, the problem here is, everyone is willing to hold hue tin to task, very few people are willing to pay a price for it. the australians have been very tough and they are the host, you might remember the australian prime minister said that he was going to shut front vladimir putin which is a rugby term, you
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bang up against him or something like that. we'll see if he makes good on that in the sense of confronting putin. while there have been some sampgss, give the europeans credit, there's a line beyond which nobody wants to go, because militarily there isn't that much you can do, some things you can do and economically, it doesn't seem to make that much difference to putin. putin's popularity has gone from i think it was the low 60s a couple years ago, now in the mid 80s, so whatever putin is doing domestically, it's working for him. >> we'll see what happens this weekend. fareed zakaria, great to see you, and be sure to watch "fareed zakaria gps" sundays, 10:00 a.m. eastern only here on cnn. over to chris. a mystery illness taking a toll on kids nationwide so far left dozens of kids paralyzed. the question is, can we do anything to prevent our kids from getting it? we'll talk with a medical analyst. plus a new series on our sister network hln is giving
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coming up with the friday edition of the five things you need to know for your "new day," president owe what is set to take action on immigration reform laws potentially allowing millions of undocumented immigrants to stay in the u.s. republican leaders say the president is ignoring the will of voters. a homeland security review found a series of secret service blunders allowed for fence jumper omore gonzalez to access the white house. the review revealed organizational confusion, gaps in training and communication failures. israeli police are easing restrictions at the temple mount allowing muslims of all ages to pray following a meeting with regional leaders, secretary of state johnjohn kerry. > . nba commissioner adam silver
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coming out in favor of legalizing sports gambling as long as regulations are in place to keep it safe and legal. we do update the five things to know so visit newdaycnn.com for the very latest. all right, let's talk your weekend forecast. indra petersons here, i'm looking at your map, it's either billings or miami for me this weekend. 2 or 71, which way do i go? >> tough choice there, michaela, right? we're talking about cold air, look at how far south, look at the map. you don't need to look at the numbers, talking about blue all the way down to the southeast, so much cold air whether you're on the west coast or east coast we are talking about freezing conditions, even icing this morning toward places like portland, snow, a lot of you getting your first flurry this is morning. look around boston, you may see about an inch of snow on the ground farther down to the south, this time it is rain but don't worry, another shot of cold air and another chance for some snow is actually on the way for the northeast before the weekend is over, why, because you have not one but two domes
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of high pressure out there, here they come, probably not gd good news but reinforcing shot of cold air is here for the envir weekend, temperatures a good 15, 20 degrees behoe normal in through the northeast and it is staying that way and a good 30 degrees below normal if you're pretty much in the middle of the country so there we go. here's the first of the high pressure, it is exiting out of here. we are still talking about lake-effect snow today but watch the next system. this is the bad news. more snow tonight coming in through the rockies and bringing some snow showers in through the midwest as you go through the weekend and by the time you get through sunday and monday, that is your chance for more flurries possible in through the northeast. i'm not going to say i'm excited, i got in trouble saying that last time. >> own it. >> snow showers on the way. >> we're shocked by the transformation. >> i just feel for the teams, i'm going with the team, bummer, guys. >> every hour switch your feeling. >> good idea. >> don't fake the fun. just own it, you're looking forward to snow. here's something to look forward to, each week we'll
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shine a spotlight on the top ten cnn heroes of 2014, but remember, it is you who will decide which one inspires you the most. this week's honoree is providing a safe haven for imer city kids in hartford, connecticut, meet patricia kelly. >> it's tough. it's tough growing up here. it's just so easy to take the wrong path. i was walking around with a lot on my shoulders. i didn't really care about life anymore. when i met miss kelly, everything changed. >> our program provides a year-round urban oasis for children 5 to 19 years old. we use horses to create pride, esteem, and healing. [ rooster crowing ] the children take care of animals, take care of the farm. when they get to a certain riding level, young men become mounted park rangers. >> i can't tell you where i would be without this program. it kangd my life. it's helped me set goals for
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myself. i'm a part of something. >> don't cut off the arena -- when you teach a child how to ride a horse, they learn that they are the center of their environme environment. once they make that connection, they can change what happens in school, at home, and the community. it's through their minds, and through their hearts. they have ability, they just have to unlock it. >> that is so great. >> it's a great story, it really helps these kids and it makes it so hard once again to pick just one of these people but you have to, and this is your last weekend to help your hero become the cnn hero of the year. here's how you do it, go to cnnheroes.com to vote once a day, every day, on the bottom of your screen. that's where you go, the hero who inspires you the most and we'll see what happens at the big awards show. alisyn? >> i can't wait to see who gets that. also this story, a mystery illness is leaving children paralyzed. doctors are scrambling to find
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answers so how can you be sure your child is safe in our medical expert joins us next. plus we have ty pennington of "extreme home makeover" now here a new makeover to the way america does business, helping students transform small businesses all the way from idea to reality. we've got ty pennington coming up next with a good idea for a show. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know genies can be really literal? no. what is your wish? no...ok...a million bucks!
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all right, i want to talk about this medical mystery that has doctors perplexed, parents really frightened, it's an illness that seems to be causing paralysis in children, now impacted 75 children across 29 states. however, the centers for disease control they still don't know what the problem is. parents, how can you protect your children? we turn to dr. simi jasmine, a former disease detective for the cdc. we need to you use your detective skills here for us, doctor, i understand you've spoken to the cdc and have the latest information about the number of children that are affected. are we up to date on the
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numbers? >> that's right, we've seen the numbers steadily increasing since we first heard about the medical mystery in september. as of yesterday now 75 children across 29 states who have become mysteriously paralyzed overnight. these are normally healthy kids but they have noticed one thing here, and that's in the few days prior to them becoming paralyzed or two weeks before they become paralyzed they've had some kind of respiratory illness, some kind of fever illness, so there may be a limping between that and between them becoming paralyzed. >> is there, like we've been hearing so much about this enterovirus, is there a connection to that? >> so the cdc said there could be a connection, but right now they haven't proven that, and they're doing their best to keep a really open mind so that they can cast a wide net and try to figure out what exactly is causing this. they said it probably is a infectious cause, most likely a virus but they're keeping an open mind because at this point
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it could be anything. >> if you don't know what it is, how do you work then on treating these sick kiddos? >> you stay vigilant and make sure you get the message out there to health care providers across the states, let parents know as well as we're doing right now if your child suddenly becomes weak, you notice their arms or their legs are not working as they normally do or their facial muscles or eyelids are drooping get them to a doctor. because we're in flu season, it's that time of year lots of bugs are going around among children, make sure they stay home from school if they have any respiratory illness, keep them away from other sick children and wash their hands really well. >> good points for parents and caregivers of children to know and understand and practice. here's the question, once those children are taken to the hospital, how are doctors treating them, how do they, are they able to recover from their symptoms? what kind of care are they getting? >> sadly, the kids who were first diagnosed at the beginning
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of this outbreak around early september, none of them have made a full recovery yet. >> goodness. >> i've heard some are making some improvements but none are back to their usually selves so what they are doing now is deep into this investigation working with doctors across the country trying to find out what exactly is causing this, once they know that, they can try and stop it in its tracks. >> why is this such a mystery to us? you'd think with all of the accomplishments that we have made and the success and the breakthroughs we've made in medical investigation and you know this very well, we would be much more able to figure out what this is and get to the heart of it. >> sometimes diseases are just a lot quicker than we are, sadly, and also, you have to realize that nowadays we seem better at joining the dots, so maybe this outbreak could have happened a few years ago but we may not have been good as recognizing all these cases were linked. there could have been one case in colorado, one case in california, a few in new york state and we wouldn't have pieced all the puzzles together. now we're better at detecting
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outbreaks but it takes a lot of work to find out what's the actual cause. >> the number as low as 75 kids. to be honest we agree that 75 kids is 75 kids too many. hopefully they can find out more information. it's great to know great minds like yours are trying to dig up some answers for all of us. dr. seema yasmin, thank you so much. >> information we need to have and keep learn being that. too many kids at risk. there's an interesting new tv show on hln, you'll look at a clip at it right now, called "growing america: a journey to success." how can students help small business owners? we'll be talking live to the guy with the answer, there he is, the new host, ty pennington. how are you doing, give us a wave. all right, maybe later.
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it is a movement of mbas and entrepreneurs moving to revitalize america. >> five days, three teams and a massive goal, to have entrepreneurs transform their business. the pressure is always on. and they learn more on the front lines than in any other classroom. >> value to themselves, the economy, and others. i love this. that's a clip from the new hln original series "growing america: a journey to success"
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it premieres on hln our sister network sunday night. three teams to transform small businesses and help communities. ty pennington joins us from miami. it's good to see you, ty. tell me everything. how did you think of this? how did it work? come on, come on. >> it's not really my idea but it's the kind of thing that i love to be involved in, you know, it's a really cool coproduction between hln and holiday inn and as you guys probably show on the clip, casey gerald is a guy who put together that went out with mbas across america so instead of these smart business students that are sort of the top in their field, instead of keeping them in the classroom, they go out and really help businesses in small towns that are really trying to do positive things in their community and what i love about it is there are so many small businesses out there that don't get the attention, that don't get the help but say some of the big city corporations and so
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when you see these business owners, you know, sort of working with old school meets new school on ways to really grow their business, there's going to be some friction because not everybody wants to hear the truth and not only that, but i love it, that the students themselves i think also go through a change, because they're realizing, you know, what you may see on stats and then a book isn't the same as in real life, so you really see it's several different journeys. it's the students as well as the business owners, and in the end, who really wins is the community these businesses are in, because that's their focus is to not only make this business succeed and make money but also to make a difference and of course that's totally the kind of thing i love to be involved in, and i think it's brilliant. i think it's an awesome journey and i think it helps businesses in america. what's better than that? >> ty, add to this the stress they have to do it in a week, change the world in a week. is that the time line? >> yes, exactly.
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you've got basically one week to really pull this business together and so yes, it's a lot, and there's the pressure is always on. >> so what kind of small businesses will we see being helped? >> well, in detroit there's a barbershop called the social club which is really a gathering place for mentors in the community to try to figure out better ways to improve detroit but as you can imagine there's a lot there, a place called sparklies in denver, a tech company, there's the root cafe in little rock which is really focusing on local produce. it's a six-part series starting sunday, november 16th at 9:00 p.m. there are other stories you can check out online if you go tologicalenof ito hlntv.com. i love being part of the show.
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i hope -- >> what do you snohope? >> i hope the businesses do well. >> it shows that reality tv doesn't have to be stupid. >> it can be real? >> and there can be a virtue to it. what we loved about your last show so much, you were helping people who needed it. you still have all the drama of the process and the stakes and everything that drives the tv of it but there's a good purpose behind it. >> we love that. >> that's good stuff. good stuff, ty pennington. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> great to have you. "growing america: a journey to success" premieres on hln this sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> we have a delay all the way to miami. >> we do, back from him we had a delay. >> that's what it was. >> it was good. so we got a nice little story coming up, about a little boy in florida who has a very special school bus. take a look and a listen.
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♪ he's going the distance >> this is a great song, it's fast and cool but we'll call it "the today stuff" friday edition, little boy gets the ultimate ride to school for a good cause, 7-year-old cub scout caleb zelinski driven in this
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700 horsepower school bus, nascar driver scott lagasse jr. >> i think i'm going to go 1,000 miles an hour. >> 1 16r7b8g,000 miles an hour? >> yes. >> he didn't go quite that fast but listen to that. caleb was handpicked to represent his troop in the scout's program for bicycle and pedestrian safety. scouting is a pursuit that is very close to scott's heart it turns out. take a listen to that. >> scouting was great for me as a kid, and teaches you a lot of great values. i believe herself nil it, and so to spend a few hours and do something fun with it is not a hard decision to make. >> caleb was not only trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, courteous and brave all his friends cheered him on when he showed up to school, even
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caleb's dad was jealous. >> you're a little green with envy. >> i'm as green as your sweater. it is a great thing. >> you know the motto by heart. >> i was a boy scout. >> i can tell. >> i was a boy scout, lefty handshake. >> i was a girl guide in canada. >> of course you were. got any cookies? >> why is it a bad thing when girls do it? >> have a great week, everyone. time for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> should i mention i was kicked out of the brownies, i shouldn't. >> stealing cookies. >> breaking news. >> but i ain't telling you why. "u.s. in roop" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> immigration battle, will the move spark a government shutdown. plus spying into your cell phone, a new report out this morning, the government collecng

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