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weeks in fact months, but what we saw this morning was for jerusalem, the worst attack in six years. breaking overnight, a deadly terror attack shattering the peace of early morning prayers inside a jerusalem synagogue. police say two palestinian men armed with knives, axes and a hand gun entered the building in west jerusalem. >> this is simply has no place in human behavior. >> the assailants travelled from east jerusalem, killing four raerls and injuring six others, including two responding police officers. this video shows israeli police officer trying to enter the synagogue. >> deadliest terror attack in the city in years. >> what you saw today is the
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slaughter of innocent people while they're praying in a synagogue. if the world doesn't unite against terrorism and give zero excuse for terrorism, this will haunt the world. >> a spokes map for hamas praising what happened as justifiable revenge for the death of a palestinian bus driver found hanged in his bus. but palestinian president mahmoud abbas condemned the attack. as did israeli prime minister benjamin netenyahu saying israel will respond with a heavy hand, his office posting on his twitter account. the attack the latest amid tensions in the city with a wave of kidnappings and killings in recent weeks. >> we have at spokesman for prime minister benjamin netenyahu. thank you for joining us. do you see a cause for larger responsibility in these attacks, beyond just the crazed men who entered? >> most definitely. i mean you put your finger right
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on the important point here. the islamic extremists murdering with brutality across the region, whether it's isis cutting off heads in iraq and syria. whether it's happening in libya and yemen. that, we understand they are the enemy of us all. but the palestinian authority, the government, the official government of the palestinians, is part of this. that they are also encouraging a culture of violence and hate, praising terror attacks on innocent civilians, they must be held accountable for that, as i heard secretary of state kerry say this morning when he called upon the palestinian leadership to unekwifly condemn this sort of brutality. >> there's in question this attack in a place of worship will be condemned. we hear the condemnation from palestinian president mahmoud abbas. the israeli prime minister did not seem to buy into that regret on the part of the palestinian leader.
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why? >> i'll tell you what the problem is, a few days ago we have the palestinian president and his government calling for days of rage and violence. the palestinians president himself writing letters to would-be killers praising their actions. it's a problem. and even this morning, after the terrible atrocity we saw in the synagogue, the spokesman of president abbas's political party, the fatah movement, he justifies this attack. if you don't mind me saying, it's like in the old hollywood westerns, it's speaking with a forked tongue. we need palestinian leadership, those who claim to be moderate, those who claim to be mainstream politicians, they have to unequivocally condemn with no if's or but's, they have to condemn this sort of brutality. as people condemn islamic brutality. there's no justification for this sort of violence, and it should be sed publicly. it's a pity that the palestinian
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leadership up until now won't step up to the plate and offer a serious condemnation. >> has israel lost confidence in mahmoud abbas and will you look to him in any future peace negotiations? >> we'll deal with the palestinian government in try to move this process forward. the question is are they a partner? they have to make a decision. we look forward to working with them in peace and reconciliation. but if they are refusing to dissociate themselves with this sort of brutality. if they maintain a political partnership with hamas, that praised this morning's attack. if their own spokesman are unfortunately justifying this attack -- there's a line in the sand in the middle east. and on one side you've got isis, hamas, al qaeda, people responsible for the most brutal attacks, the most heinous atrocities against innocent civilians.
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on the other side you've got israel and egypt and jordan and other moderate countries. president abbas and the palestinian authority must decide which side of the divide he's on. because he can't have it both ways. we want to see him as a peace partner. but we have to see him get off the fence and choose the path of peace and reconciliation. >> what does "with a heavy hand" mean in terms of israel's dealing with the situation? >> well obviously to maintain peace and security in jerusalem will be beefing up the police and security presence in the capital. and make sure that there are no -- >> it sounded like counterattacks, that's what it sounded like. >> we've got to prevent copycat. when you have an atrocity like this, you can unfortunately give the motivation to other like-minded people. so we have to make sure there are no copycat attacks and we want to make sure there's no hothead on the israeli side who decides he wants to take the law into his own hands and conduct a
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vigilante counterattack. the first thing is to beef up the police presence. and the other thing is to ultimately try to deal with these terrorist groups though are responsible nor sort of violence. you know, it's not just jerusalem that's suffering from this extremism, islamic extremism. we see it across the region. there's a regional problem, there's no quick fix. but we will defeat and prevail over this sort of islamist terrorism. >> will there be targeted assaults and action towards the groups you think responsible? >> i am not going to talk about specific steps we will take. other than to say we will do what needs to be done to protect our citizens. we can't allow the recurrence of this sort of atrocity against innocent civilians. we will do what needs to be done to protect our people and to return safety and peace and quiet to jerusalem. which all of jerusalem's inhabitants deserve. both israeli and palestinian.
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ultimately we want to see peace and quiet in this city. we know the islamist extremists are opposed to that they want to see violence and we want to see the palestinian government, mahmoud abbas as a partner. >> the politics loom large and obviously thoughts and prayers of those who lost their lives and the injuried and their families this morning. thank you very much. another story developing othernight, president obama has ordered a top-to-bottom review of the policy regarding american hostages. specifically, how the victims' families are kept informed and how the government can secure their releases. it comes days after another isis video showing the severed head of an american aid worker, peter kassig. at least one other american, a woman, remains in captivity. cp's joe johns is live for us at the white house, good morning, joe. >> good morning, alisyn, a comprehensive review of these policies was very much required, because there have been reports
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of families caught in the middle between their concerns for their loved ones being held hostage in the middle east, and the things that the government was doing. specifically, the no ransom policy that the united states continues to push forward. congressman duncan hunter of california wrote letters to the administration to get some clarity. he's been pushing for better coordination between the federal bureau of investigation and the department of defense and other components of the government in trying to handle these hostages. the national security council did finally release a statement confirming that a top-to-bottom review is now under way to look at all of these policies. and also saying the government cannot detail all the things it does to try to help get hostages released. so no clear timetable on when the administration will be able to say if it's going to change its policies, nonetheless there are some families of hostages,
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who are very concerned about how the government handles this situation. alisyn? >> we'll be analyzing this with our analysts coming up. joe, thanks so much. there's more news to talk, about let's get over to michaela for headlines. >> here's a look at your headlines, we begin with missouri, missouri governor jay nixon declaring a state of emergency ahead of a grand jury decision in the michael brown case. he's calling in the national guard, he says just in case violence flares once again in ferguson. a grand jury decision could come at any time, whether or not to indict officer darren wilson for the shooting death of teenager michael brown. the fbi is warning state and local law enforcement across the nation to remain vigilant. a virginia woman has been charged with lying to the feds about trying to connect a contact of hers with isis. heather kaufman caught the eye of authorities after praising the terrorists on her facebook page. the 29-year-old was arrested when she promised to link up an undercover fbi agent with the group in syria. later she told officials she
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hadn't done so. charges could be upgraded. the senate appears to be poised to approve the controversial keystone pipeline project today. the house approved the legislation last week. now louisiana senator mary landrieu says the bill has enough support to pass. democrats have been pushing the bill since the election, when landrieu landed in a runoff for her seat. president obama has expressed skepticism about the project, which still faces several legal hurdles. shocking testimony from convicted 9/11 terrorist mir hossein mousavi zacharias moussaoui. moussaoui makes charges in letters filed with a federal court from his prison cell in colorado. those are your headlines, guys. >> it is not a question of if,
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it is only a question of when you will feel the cold. make sure your homes are ready for freezing temperatures and so are you. they're expected in just about every state so let's get to meteorologist indra petersons, we have cast her out into the cold in central park with only a sweater and we have done this because she said she was excited about winter and now she will feel the pain. >> she looks excited. >> this is is me acclimating. i can't go full blizzard gear this early in the season. ky not. it's not even officially winter yet. but it kind of feels that way, right? we're talking about temperatures in the 30s. wind gusts in central park, about 29 miles per hour. we throw in the wind chill. currently it's about 21 degrees, that's what it feels like. but here's the thing, in the entire u.s. today, all 50 states, somewhere currently below freezing. another frigid night for millions as britter cold arctic
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air grips nearly the entire country. temperatures shattering records across the midwest with some parts in the single digits, in northern texas monday, temperatures dropped to 9 degrees, the lowest on that date since 1959. a nationwide deep freeze has 50% of the u.s. now covered with snow. crippling some parts of the midwest. in cincinnati, parents and volunteers of a high school football team were shoveling 400 tons of the white stof off their turf. >> it will be an ice pack, if we don't get it off today. they're probably not going to be able to practice on the turf all week. >> in louisville, kentucky, almost 2,000 tons of salt covered the streets after their first major snowfall dropped nearly five inches, closing area schools on monday. >> my employer is we're on a three-hour delay. >> adding to the misery? >> up north, lake-effect snow is now pummelling michigan and new york state through thursday, some parts will see more than two feet.
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so many places in the northeast yesterday actually saw record rainfall, central park saw an inch and a half. that system made its way out. it's the cold air diving behind it is the big story. we could see a foot of snow, lake-effect snow around the great lakes, the bigger thing? this wind chill, many places in the upper midwest are expecting to break records this morning. with record low temperatures, the cold air is expected to last. highs today hovering around the freezing mark here in the northeast. temperatures are expected to still get cooler as we go through the day. as the cold air continues to rush in. so what is the big question? is the cold air going to last? right now we're stuck in something that looks like an omega block. all it means to you -- wave after wave is cold air is expected. another one for the end of the week and possibly a frigid one for the beginning of next week. we're bracing ourselves, guys. >> make it stop! >> omega block. >>fy only had the power.
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>> i thought those were the good fatty acids. >> indra thanks so much. three american hostages have been murdered by isis. at least one american something held and now the president asking for a review of how hostage situations are handled. should the u.s. do something different to save these prisoners? and state of emergency declared in ferguson. now this is a procedure, it releases resources to help authorities prepare for the worst. but it is seen by some as a provocative act. and an intention of police violence. ferguson is divided and we will hear from both perspectives on this. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans.
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president obama wants a full review of how the u.s. conducts hostage negotiations, following the deaths of three americans at the hands of isis. some in the victims' family says the u.s. government actually impede their efforts to get
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their loved ones back home. let's talk more with john avalon, a cnn political analyst and editor in chief of the "daily beast" and margaret hoover, a cnn political analyst and republican consultant. it's obvious that the parents of whose children were killed by isis, the families believe they were trying on their own to get their children back. who knows if it would have worked? it seems as though it wouldn't have. but the government wouldn't let them negotiate or give money. of courses u.s. has its reinforce not allowing that. here's what the first hostage was killed by isis, james foley's parents had to say about the government's help. listen to this. >> i really feel that our country let jim down. and -- >> in what way? >> well anderson, i we met wonderful people within our government. good people who cared, who wanted to help.
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but the reality of the bureaucracy and really was such that we were not helped. we really weren't. >> margaret, is it time for a review? >> this is tragic. as a parent, it breaks your heart. i don't know that ordering a bureaucratic review of how you negotiate with terrorists would have saved the sons of these journalists. and i also think that when you're dealing with negotiating with terrorists you're dealing with a tactic in a larger war. and i think there's a fundamental call to examine the strategy -- why is isis continuing to take american reporters? what is continuing to happen? how can we end that? i think there's a strategic review that's necessary. we need to frankly eliminate this enemy. but i don't know that a tactical review in that particular
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instance would have changed the larger, broader war. >> this is an acknowledgement by the administration that their increased incidents of kidnapping and too many problems that are alienating these families. interagency in-fighting and frustrated by legal threats against them if they want to pay ransom, in the millions of dollars. >> the u.s. government threatened prosecution against the families. the families were threatened with prosecution if they tried to take matters in their own hands and pay money. you can't have it be lucrative for isis to take hostages. but the families want to do whatever they can. >> i would take the other side of that i don't think there are two clear sides of it. one of them is a hyperemotional side. which you would expect from every family. however, this is an unemotional situation tactically. it just is there's nothing you can do to negotiate with isis that's going to make them give people back, unless they are afraid of the consequences of
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taking people. >> that's true, chris. but you know, if there's a, if the bureaucracy is compounding the families' pain. if there's this kind of inter-agency turf battles and it's not a coordinated response, things can be improved so the families don't feel like they're getting the back-end of the mission. >> we saw this in north korea, also. kenneth bae's family and in mexico, where consistently families dealing with the state department feel as if their family members are pawns and not being treated with the respect they should. >> and that they're being cut out. the family members feel like they're not getting information, they're being cut out. it's a powerless feeling. >> that's something the administration is right to examine. you can stick to a strategy or tactic of not negotiating with terrorists, but have the families feel like the government is working with them. whether it's special opps or another group. >> the only way to eliminate the threat is to eliminate isis.
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there's a another larger strategic review that's necessary and a frankly refocusing on eliminating the ultimate enemy. >> let's turn to another problem we can't fix, which is the state of play, great story thissoutlet known as the "daily beast" broke, i don't know if you've ever heard of them, john, but the idea is this -- that the republicans were using twitter to kind of double up on political messaging and somewhat circumvent the law, or maybe not. what do you make of the situation. john, you broke it. >> this is a great scoop by chris moody at cnn. chris moody's story is great and it's harrowing because it illustrates the way that there's abuse of citizens united, collusion between campaign -- >> citizens united is the supreme court case that ruled you can't limit outside funds in political campaigns. >> this naive idea. this shows there is collusion, they're trying in this case, organizations trying to use twitter to sort of share
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information. it's damning. the question is will the laws be enforced actively. >> margaret, you're the perfect person to talk to. you ran an independent expenditure committee, which somehow deals with all of this issue. >> i ran a soourp pac, that's what american crossroads is a superpac. there are thousands of superpacs that play in every election and the line is very clear. if you're working with a superpac, you're running independent expenditure ads, you cannot coordinate with any campaign committee. you can't talk to them. what ends up happening, is because you can't coordinate on strategy, you, people end up, the obama superpac did this, the mitt romney superpac did this, you get information from private polling and issue a press release. >> what happened here they were seussing subterfuge on twitter with coded messages. >> blatantly illegal. that is -- coordinating in the
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light of day. >> what happened when cnn's chris moody contacted them for comment? >> they took the twitter handles down. that's so damning. the national republican congressional committee. immediately after chris moody calls, immediately those twitter handles disappear. that shows a degree of collusion. that panicked response is in many ways the most damning about the report. >> they were putting this internal polling up on twitter so the campaign group could see it without getting their hands dirty with colluding. >> you issue a press release and it's almost like they were whispering to each other in the light of day, hoping no one else would notice and they got, they may have gotten caught. this is all alleged, but if the allegations are true, there's no question, this is blatantly illegal. you cannot coordinate. >> what's the enforcement mechanism? it's been lax. there's a money go round of
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consultants cashing in every election cycle. >> consultants on how to best use what is gray in the law to your advantage in campaigns. a whole cottage industry. >> and not all people who do superpacs feel the way they you do, margaret. >> the law is clear, you can't coordinate. that would have been coordination. >> what it means is tricky. anthony kennedy the supreme court often doesn't spell out. >> this has been enforced by regulations and by regulators at the federal election commission. >> or not as we just saw. >> thanks for helping us understand it. john, margaret great to see you. ferguson, we're focused on it, what's going to happen, frustration and anger is building up in the suburbs, not just ferguson, but all around st. louis and across the country. most recently the governor in missouri declared state of emergency. that releases funds for them to prepare for what's going on when the grand jury brings down its decision in the michael brown shooting what will this mean to
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jtsds roy. we begin with breaking news in jerusalem. a deadly attack on a synagogue killing four israelis and injuring six hours. police say two palestinians broke into the synagogue armed with axes and knives, they were shot and killed by police. we'll find out in a few hours time if north korean leader kick jong un could face prosecution for human rights abuses. a u.n. committee is set to vote. if it passes, the general assembly will decide if north korea will referred to the international criminal court. north korea would be the first nonafrican country to be referred to the i.c.c. word this morning that the doctor who died of ebola after being flown from sierra leone endured a two week-day in treatment. officials say the doctor had waited three days in sierra leone to be formally diagnosed
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after an initial test came back negative, he waited five more days to be flown to the university of nebraska medical center. the 44-year-old succombed to his illness on monday. 80-year-old convicted murderer charles manson and his 26-year-old fiancee have a marriage license. a source says no wedding date has been set. the two have 90 days to tie the knot before the license expires. they'll be allowed up to ten guests from outside the prison. and two additional guests from inside the prison. those are your headlines. >> i am fascinated by that. i want to know what it is that about these young women we see them in the jailhouse weddings. >> time and time again we've seen it. >> with murderers and criminals in the past. >> i want to know what it is that attracts them to these guys. >> and also what attracts a 26-year-old to an 80-year-old man. >> usually cash. but that's not going to be the case in this. >> you can google this and
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there's been generations of daytime talk shows that have focused on this you see the psychology of it is never coming from a good place with these women. especially with this guy. let's be fair, maybe can you find someone who had a bad thing in their life. and they're a decent person and then there's some romance there. but this bad boy thing which is personified by this guy -- >> it's beyond. >> how about you tweet us, i feel like you might have an opinion on it. >> if you're related to her in any way, how do you feel about this? anyway, back to ferguson, preparation there, are they part of the problem in what's going on? here's why, peaceful protesters are furious that authorities have declared a state of emergency. the government said they're just doing it to release resources, all of this because the grand jury decision in the michael brown case could come down at any time. we're there waiting and we will take you there, if it happens. he's known as the 26 ld hijacker, now a convicted 9/11
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there's a growing unease in ferguson, missouri. missouri's governor declaring a precautionary state of emergency as the city and the country waits to find out if the grand jury will indict officer darren wilson for the shooting of michael brown. the national guard is at the ready and the fbi is warning of a chance for violence. let's bring in cnn's stephanie
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elam this morning. >> the news that governor nixon has declared a state of emergency, shows we're one step closer to getting the ruling on the fate of darren wilson. protesters in st. louis braved frigid temperatures, take together streets ahead of missouri's governor declaring a state of emergency. governor jay nixon anticipating expanded unrest, if the grand jury decides not to indict ferguson police officer darren wilson. who shot and killed unarmed teen, michael brown, on august 9th. governor nixon activating the national guard to assist the county police with securing ferguson, bypassing the ferguson police department. the mayor of ferguson agreed with the decision. >> we don't know what's going to happen or what the decision is going to be or what the reaction is going to be. think we need to make sure that we're prepared. >> michael brown's parents have asked that everybody who supports them do so in a
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nonviolent, peaceful constructive way. >> more than three months now, this entire area has been on edge. >> are you worried about violence becoming an issue again? >> i'm not really by civilians or by police? >> whatever concerns you. >> i mean the biggest concern is that something very small will happen. like a water bottle and that will lead to teargas or gunfire. >> last week a law enforcement source says the fbi issued a bulletin to police across the nation, warning officers to be vigilant about possible violence related to ferguson. over the past few months, community lead verse complained that outsiders have instigated much of the violence. >> so when the grand jury comes out with its decision, with a do you think is going to happen? >> i honestly can't say. i can just speak about what we're going to continue to do as protesters until we get what we deserve, which is justice. >> and the national guard is
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expected to arrive here in the st. louis area at some point this week. and as far as them taking over control of security. this would only happen if escalations and tensions and violence were to get out of control. but for now the city of ferguson is in control and the county of st. louis is in control of their police departments. alisyn? >> stephanie elam, thanks so much. as she's showing, the weather could be an issue here. as the reality when she asked, do you expect it to be violence, the kid on the street said by who, the cops or by the protesters? that's the two minds that are ruling in ferguson right now. let's get perspective. chris king is the editorial director for the "st. louis american" and cincinnati chief of police, jeffrey blackwell. cincinnati dealt with a similar situation if 2001 and hopefully it was a learning moment that those lessons will be put in place now. mr. king, let me start with you, what's the perception in community about what state of
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emergency means? >> well it's an unfortunately an alarming term and a lot of the protesters do feel like it was a proactive strike in a kind of car. i don't think that's really the right way to look at it. it enables the governor to start the call-up process for national guardsmen. national guardsmen will never take over the protest. the, your reporter was a little bit off on that and also the city of ferguson is not in control of the city of ferguson, st. louis county is. st. louis county police and city police and missouri highway patrol form a unified command this is nonstarter for the community. the protesters should relax and continue protesting peacefully. >> that's always the hope. but you know what it is, it's about optics, chief, right? the optics. if you were to not call up these types of resources and have them on hand, would that be irresponsible? do you believe that these tactics are something that helps make the situation more controllable, more safe?
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>> well i think you have to do it you're right, it is the optics and police are unfortunately in this scenario, in somewhat of a no-win situation. but it would be irresponsible to not be prepared to deal with the worst and hope for the best. >> but you also have the issue, chief, of what happened the last time. the cops in ferguson, surrounding st. louis communities or whatever, a combination, they didn't seem ready to handle the situation and they did seem a little hair-trigger. they did seem a little hyperaggressive, what do you think you learned in 2001 in cincinnati that needs to be communicated? what are the lessons? >> i think the big lesson is you don't wait for a crisis moment to try to leverage a relationship that may or may not be built. you work on those sustained engaged, transparent relationships year-round. and then you build up what i term as relationship collateral. people have to know in your community that your relationship
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with them is authentic. and the only way you do that is you're out there with them on a daily basis, trying to talk and figure out if everything in fact is okay. >> chief, that makes perfect sense. but it's also really frightening. because chris, it seems like that's exactly what you don't have in ferguson right now. the police and authorities have been slow to make inroads, because they want to see how this settles first, but the chief is saying that's what you need to prevent the worst. what's your take? >> well, captain ron johnson has done a lot of hard work, meeting with protesters, they rebuff him a lot because he was in command on some of the worst nights of teargassing, that's a fact. chief dobson in the city of st. louis has also met with peaceful protesters. and said to him, if you want peace, we want peace, if outside agitators come in to disrupt the peace, work with us in turning them in it's difficult to get protest horse are protesting the police to cooperate with the police. but that might heavy defuse the
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situation if outside elements that truly the governor is afraid of outsiders, so is the unified command. if the peaceful protesters are local are the only people we see in the coming weeks, there won't be a national story. >> chris, you clued us in to the outside agitators first time around. because of your reporting and that of others, the police wound up making key arrests of yous siders and that helped calm the situation down. in the communities are they discussing what to do do prevent violence and make the protests the most product i have been thing they can? are they planning? >> absolutely. think there's been a lot of productive planning within protest movement. they brought in outside consultants and peaceful protests and the king center from atlanta came up. the unified command authorities realized that they don't have an angry mob on their hands in the peaceful protesters. they have actually factually peaceful protesters. there are some elements they need to guard against and i
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believe the guards are up. >> the hope for the media in a situation like this for all the cynicism aside is you're there to have eyes on the ground and it keeps everybody a little bit more aware of their behavior. but that then gets to you what the moment is going to be. the moment is going to be, when word of an indictment or no indictment comes down. we're hearing that may be released on a weekend. we don't know if they're going to bring the family in first. in terms of timing and tactics, how should this decision be brought out? >> well, we in cincinnati and in other places, you know the major city chiefs, we talk about this, we've talked about this for the last three months. and certainly what affects us anywhere, affects us everywhere. so we are a little nervous in my city. and i'm sure other chiefs are as well so we don't have the sympathetic reaction by our community. so for that we've been out in front of this and engaged in dialogue. and engaged with key people in our community, to try to figure out where we are.
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and if we're going to be okay, once this verdict is released. >> chris, do you think it's the right move to release it on a weekend? do you think the brown family should be brought in first before it's announced and allow them to use whatever leadership and authority they have with the community? to say what they hope happens, regardless of the outcome? >> well i think you need to talk about the reality of the county prosecutor, robert mccullough, he's not good with victim services, he's been very poor with this particular family. he's not going to bring them in in a productive way. but he is talking to police authorities and i'm talking to the same police authorities, they do want it on a weekend. the school districts want it on a weekend. i wouldn't be surprised if we saw it this sunday. >> because the kids aren't if school and are insulated from anything that happens. that's the main thinking, chris, quickly? >> yes, definitely. >> chris king, chief blackwell, thank you very much for your perspective. hopefully preparation is the big headline here and that the protests come, no matter what the outcome is and there's
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they will call him the 20th hijacker, now from his prison cell in colorado, convicted 9/11 terrorist zacharias moussaoui is making claims that could be critical in a long-running civil case that implu indicates saudi arabia for the 9/11 attacks. let's get more from deb feyerick. >> from his cell in a maximum security prison in colorado, terrorist zacharias moussaoui is making new allegations and reviving old accusations against a handful of saudi royals. accusations that over the last decade have been discredited. in a letter, the 46-year-old frenchman claims saudi embassy officials were involved in a plot to shoot down air force one to assassinate bill clinton and hillary clinton. he said he discussed the plot several months ago with a secret service agent. cnn has reached out to the agency for confirmation. >> this is a new plot that i think moussaoui is making headlines with and he's certainly got everyone's attention. it's unclear how serious this
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plot was. >> there's the lingering question of saudi arabia. moussaoui is reviving old claims he made a dozen years ago, that a specific saudi prince and princess and others were involved in financing 9/11. >> i think there was a significant effort in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 to work with the saudis, to curb their terror finance problem. i think it was widely recognized that it was a problem. >> in his letter, moussaoui claims the same time he was taking flying lessons in norman, oklahoma, he met the prince and princess, who gave me money. unquote. with other funds directed to the other 9/11 hijackers. the saudi government is being sued by some 9/11 familiar list. stress that the 9/11 commission in 2004 found no evidence that the saudi government as an institution or senior saudi officials individually funded either al qaeda or the
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hijackers. zacharias moussaoui is often depicted as the missing 20th hijacker. but shortly after a jury sentenced him to life in prison in 2006 osama bin laden denied he was part of plot and portrayed him as a paranoid d schizophrenic. casting doubt on his claims. >> delving into this further is tom fuentes. let's start with moussaoui's claim that a saudi prince and princess helped finance 9/11 by help paying for the flight lessons that the hijackers took. what do you make of this? >> as mentioned, moussaoui has been widely questioned as to his mental stability and what he knew and didn't know and how he knew it however, there are hundreds of saudi princes, princesses, cousins, members of
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the royal family. so it's possible that members of the family did supply the money or provide funding for the 9/11 operation. but that doesn't mean the government itself knew about it or wanted it to happen. >> there's also a new claim that he makes, which is that air force one, there was a saudi plot to shoot down air force one and to assassinate bill and hillary clinton. is there any evidence of that? >> i don't know of any evidence of that. i'm not sure that that ever is true or not. >> so you know the 9/11 commission found that in 2004, they said they found no evidence of moussaoui's claims and they couldn't determine that the saudis had financed or funded 9/11. what do you think of the commission's findings? is it possible they missed it? >> it is possible. it's difficult to establish exactly where the funding came. the saudi government does provide through a program it has, to provide money for
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schools around the world. especially to appease the wahabi sect, a fundamentalist secret i saudi arabia. so to appease them, starting in 1991, many institutions teach hate of the west and hate of the infidels, so in a warks the saudi government does provide funding to schools that are anti-western. it doesn't mean they're directly funding terrorism. because if they did, terrorism might be directed directly at them. >> let's not forget that 15 of the 19 hijackers were saudis. but what do you think that zacharias moussaoui's motive is right now? >> it could be attention, it could be anything. i don't know his mental situation since he's been in prison all this time.
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so good question. >> his court-appointed lawyers said that they believe that he was a paranoid schizophrenic. >> right. >> so it's hard to know whether we should dismiss this out of hand, because he's mentally unstable. or if he has some real nuggets here that should be explored. >> well it could be both. part of the difficulty is and part of the court wrangling that's gone on since 9/11, is that the saudi government is trying to use the foreign sovereign immunities act. which prevents foreign governments from being dragged into u.s. court proceedings and the u.s. government has tried to back the saudi government in that effort. because the u.s. and western governments need the cooperation of saudi arabia and particularly their intelligence service, the partner of the fbi in saudi arabia, to cooperate. and we've seen many cases where the mubaheth have discorrupted
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terror plots, such as the printer cartridge plot. where they tried to ship a printer to a jewish community center in chicago. the saudi intelligence service directly interrupted that plot and that printer was discovered in london as a result of their cooperation. >> that one was a good sign of cooperation. well tom fuentes thanks so much for your expertise, always great to talk to you. we're following a lot of news this morning, so let's get to it . what you saw today is slaughter of innocent people. >> we confirmed four israelis have been killed in this terrorist attack. >> this has no place in human behavior. >> overnight, protesters in st. louis taking to the streets amid a state of emergency. >> the entire region is gripped by fear. >> it's like they're preparing for war. our beloved son, abdul rachman, no longer walks this
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earth. >> our hearts are battered, but they will mend. the world is broken, but it will be healed in the end. >> good morning, everyone, welcome back to "new day," i'm alisyn camerota alongside chris cuomo. we could be on the verge of another major conflict in the middle east. israeli prime minister benjamin netenyahu is vowing to respond with a heavy hand to a deadly attack on jerusalem synagogue, four israelis killed and six others wounded. >> two palestinians broke into the synagogue with axes, knives and a handgun. they were shot dead by police, but not before victimizing worshippers, the atrocity is being condemned around the world with the visible exception of hamas. cnn's ben wedeman is live for us in jerusalem. >> hamas has put out a statement, they say supporting the operation, not claiming responsibility. they have course call these operations, these attacks, but there's no indication at this
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point, however, that hamas is involved in this attack which left four israelis dead this morning at about 7:00 local time. we're being told by israeli officials, it seems it may be another one of these lone wolf attacks, attacks undertaken by residents of predominantly palestinian east jerusalem. in this case, two cousins in their 20s, one of them worked not far from the synagogue, who were behind this attack. and of course, this is really just the latest in a long series of incidents in jerusalem. going back to essentially june. when we saw clashes in the wake of the killing of those three israeli teenagers in the west bank and the kidnapping and murder of a palestinian teenager. so these tensions have been going on constantly since then. but certainly this is the worst attack in jerusalem since 2008.
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chris? >> ben thank you very much. alisyn, over to you. let's turn to peter binhart, a cnn political commentator and a senior columnist at "haaretz," is this the first time or is this significant that they went into a synagogue during morning prayers, does that how ratchet up the violence and pressure? >> sadly this is not the first time that there's been terrorism against israelis in places of worship. there was a terrible attack many years ago during a passover seder. and the fact that this happened during morning prayers will be extraordinarily painful for jews, who have a sense of memory of being denied the right to worship. we're dangerously moving close to a third intifada that could spin out of control. >> there's attack and
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retaliation, with sort of no way out, you say? >> there was on sunday, a palestinian bus driver who was found hanged. the israelis said it was a suicide. but many palestinians seem to believe he had been killed. we're now in a series of palestinian terrorist attacks now over the past few weeks. it's important to remember that the last intifada, the second intifada started over jerusalem in 2000. historically jerusalem has been the place where the violence tends to cycle out of control. >> let me play for you what secretary kerry said about the brutality of this attack today. listen to this. >> people who would come to worship god in the sanctuary of the synagogue were hatcheted and hacked and murdered in that holy place. in an act of pure terror and senseless brutality. and murder. >> so now what does the u.s. do about this. >> it's a very difficult situation. israel will take retaliatory
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measures and it's quite possible those measures will produce more hostility on the palestinian side. i think the deeper problem is, there's no horizon for peace on either side. there are no negotiations, there's absolutely no trust whatsoever right now between benjamin netenyahu on one side and mahmoud abbas. let alone hamas which has praised these attacks and in that kind of environment where there's a sense of hopelessness and rage on both sides, it's extremely difficult to curtail these kinds of cycles of violence from going out of control. >> here's what benjamin netenyahu put out via twitter about this attack. he says this is the direct result of incitement being led by hamas and abu mazen, he means mahmoud abbas, incitement which the international community is irresponsibly ignoring, we will respond to the heavy hand to the brutal murder of jew who is came to pray and were met by murderers, this terrorist attack in a house of worship is the
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direct result of president abbas's campaign of incitement. we will respond with a heavy hand. that's ominous, what does that look like? >> already there was a move into the east jerusalem neighborhood where the palestinians were from. historically israel has taken measures like demolishing the homes of palestinian terrorists. i don't know how much larger the efforts will be. but given how many terrorist attacks there have been, i think it's unlikely you will see israel responding proactively throughout the west bank and jerusalem in a way that many palestinians will feel is oppressive to them and again we could still be in the cycle again and again. >> here's what the palestinian leader mahmoud abbas, has to say. the palestinian presidency has always condemned the killing of civilians on either side. and condemns today the killing of worshippers at a synagogue in west jerusalem. he's saying the right things. >> i don't, think mahmoud abbas is perfect. over the past few weeks he's made a couple of statements about defending the temple mount
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that could be seen as supporting violence. but i think israel has to have perspective here. mahmoud abbas is praised by israeli leaders as someone who does support a two-state solution that accepts israel's right to exist. the alternative to this is jihad. if someone wants to tear down mahmoud abbas, it won't end with palestinian leaders can he do business with, it will end with palestinian leaders who are more supportive of violence. you have to have perspective here. >> we'll keep an eye on it all day. thank you for the analysis. over to chris. >> president obama has ordered a comprehensive review of u.s. hostage policy after isis executed another american. cot long-time policy banning paying ransom to terrorists be on the table? more likely and welcome would be a change in how the u.s. treats hostages' family members with this on the agenda, let's go to
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cnn's joe johns live at the white house with details. >> the review is going to look at family engagement, intelligence collection, diplomatic engagement. the president ordered the review over the summer. and a review was very much needed. because so many families were finding themselves caught in the middle. between what the government was telling them. sometimes conflicting messages. and their concerns for their loved ones, who are being held. all of this was disclosed in an exchange of letters between congressman duncan hunter of california, and people who work for the government, the national security council did finally confirm that a review was under way. but also said it could not disclose all of the things the federal government does to try to secure the release of these hostages. the big question of course is whether the government will change its policy on ransom payment. that's a big problem, because when ransom gets paid, it only
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finances terrorist operations and in fact leads to even more kidnappings and more hostage-taking. a difficult situation for all the families. the question is how long will it take for the review to be completed. that's just not clear right now. chris, back to you. >> all right. joe thank you very much. we'll be following that, that's for sure. alisyn. the latest american to be murdered by isis was peter kassig. his parents paid tribute to their son on monday, speaking publicly for the first time since he was confirmed dead over the weekend. we're live in indianapolis with more. >> we have heard ed and paula kassig speak out in the past. they hoped their words to help to spare their son. peter kassig grew up in the united methodist church here in indianapolis, the same church where his parents made a very brief statement. in it they talked about their son. an army ranger turned humanitarian aid worker. taken while doing that aid work.
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ed and paula kassig speaking about what they believe their son's legacy will be. >> one person makes a difference. our hearts are battered, but they will mend. the world is broken, but it will be healed in the end. >> ed and paula kassig went on to ask for privacy. they say they need some time to mourn. but that they also hope to one day be able to forgive and eventually to heal. they asked people to continue to pray for all of those being held against their will in syria. during their son's captivity, abdul rachman kassig converted to islam. they say he had started the conversion prior to being kidnapped. their plans in indianapolis to hold a joint muslim and christian ceremony to honor his
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life. >> their statement is so powerful. they were such pillars of strength during that statement. were really an inspiration, thanks for showing us that there's more news with michaela. we begin with ferguson. we know it's a community on edge. missouri governor jay nixon declaring a state of emergency and calling in the national guard. before a grand jury decides whether to indict officer darren wilson for the shooting death of michael brown. the fbi also warning of likely violence following an announcement. the grand jury's ruling could come any day. the senate poised to approve the construction of the controversial keystone pipeline. louisiana senator mary land rue says the legislation has enough votes. it's taken on renewed interest since she fought her way into a run-off. the pipeline would run oil from canada to the gulf of mexico. the president remains skeptical on the project which still faces legal challenges. breaking overnight, a small cargo plane crashing into a home near chicago's midway airport.
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fire official says there were two elderly residents inside the house, but both were pulled out safely by a neighbor. the pilot reported engine problems just after takeoff and crashed while trying to return to the airport. firefighters report after an initial search of the plane, there's no sign of the pilot. interesting proposition here for new york city, considering the plan to replace more than 8,000 old pay phones, with high-tech wi-fi hubs. if the link nyc measure is approved. it will often why why, nationwide phone calls and charging stations. my favorite thing. the mayor claims the plan will not cost taxpayer as penny, because ad revenues will cover expenses and because of course, chris, i know you're concerned about security, it will offer encrypted network connection. you don't want to begin on wi-fi and -- >> i'm worried about figuring out people how to steal the wi-fi, take the whole device and
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bring it somewhere else. >> did anybody ever steal pay phones. >> yes. >> who did you hang out with in your youth? >> i didn't say i used to steal the pay phones. but people would take them. people take entire atms. >> when you say "people" -- >> their people, my people, people. >> i think it sounds like a win-win for the city. >> it will be interesting. >> so next year, they're saying. >> i live with extreme charge-a-phobia. how much for one minute? >> wow. >> you guys have quite the issues. >> i'm going to get you supper by the way. meanwhile, the white house is taking a long, hard look at its policy concerns american hostages and efforts to free them from terrorists. we'll get reaction from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle next. and authorities in ferguson, they are preparing for what? for war or for peace? two minds on this, a state of emergency declared. it's got peaceful protesters
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anger is reaching all-time highs this morning, following another attack in jerusalem. four israelis were killed, along with two palestinian attackers. it was done in a synagogue during prayers. which was a really exacerbating thing here. it made it even worse for the people in that region. what does it tell us about the middle east? this is one major issue that the united states has to deal with
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and it will have to be dealt with on the congressional level. there are a lot of other issues as well. let's bring in people from both sides of the aisle who have to try to find a way forward. congressman peter welch democrat from vermont and congressman king. representative king, when you hear it done in a synagogue. there's been violations of religious time with violence during seders. does this up the stakes? and what should the u.s. position be? >> it does up the stakes. when you terrorize people where they worship, that's an extra assault on a people. the israelis do a good job of defending themselves generally and keep their streets fairly safe. if you there, even in the evenings you'll see people walking around with weapons. the united states need to support israel. there's an arab can live in israel proper with the rights of citizenship, own property, be
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seated on the supreme court for example or in the knesset. i think the israelis have been very tolerant and be being attacked by the other side. they needed the fence to protect themselves. i understand these were residents that got inside. i don't know enough at this point. >> do you think there's a role for the u.s., congressman welch, about trying to somehow modulate what is the heavy-handed response from israel? or do you think they just stay out? >> well, obviously the government has to be the one that's primarily in charge of maintaining the security for its own citizens. we would certainly have that response. we do have that responsibility here. but the united states is very involved. i mean we've been very engaged, obviously in supporting israel. but we've also been very much engaged in trying to promote a peace process. this is an appalling incident. steve king is right about that, attacking people in their place of worship. generally when that is done, it is essentially has as its goal, not just killing the people, but
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escalating the tensions to try to interfere with any possibility of making progress on peaceful negotiations. >> almost guarantees more of the same. i hope i'm wrong, but almost guarantees it. let's move on to a trickier situation for the u.s. >> do you think the u.s. should reconsider negotiating with terrorists, using ransoms. do you think that would make a difference with animals like isis? >> i would say no. it wouldn't make a difference, if you negotiate, if you pay ransom. you're going to get more hostages taken. there will be more kidnapping. it goes back into our history like 1798 when 20% of our budget went to pay pirates for hostages. i think they need to improve their coordination between agencies and do other things possible to help get the hostages free. i'm afraid this is not the last
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beheading we will see. we need to take a much more aggressive approach towards isis. i want to arm the kurds, we going to have to defeat the caliphate. that's our objective, we need to move forward on that. >> representative welch, you think you need to change policy with how the state department deals with families. consistently they come on tv and say they feel lost. dos that have to change? >> it dentally does. what steve said, i agree with respect to hostages. we can't negotiate, we can't pay ransom. but number two, we do have to be as compassionate and as open and as accommodating to these families that find themselves in this incredibly tragic situation. and what, this is new for us. so you've had a bunch of different departments that have had their responsibilities and haven't been trained to figure out how to deal with these families in enormous stress. having this review and basically i think having coordination in probably a single point of
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contact that can give real answers in real-time as much as we know to these families will give them at least some solace the government hasn't forgotten them. >> i'm discy with excitement that you two gentlemen are agreeing so much. the keystone pipeline, congressman king, give me the case for why this is good for america? >> i can think of no reason why it wouldn't be good for america. there's a tremendous amount of oil up in the oil sands in northern alberta. the canadians have been negotiating with the chinese, they're going to build a pipeline to the west, to the pacific ocean and put the heavy crude oil on tankers and ship it to china and refine it unless we build a pipeline through the united states to a refinery on the gulf coast. you can build pipelines safely all over this country. i may the only congressman who has ever built pipeline. we're not worried about polluting the ogalala aquifer
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through alaska. if you look at the safety of the other pipelines, there's been minimal environmental impact. our technology is so much better. we can build this so it's safe. it creates some 40,000 jobs, it's an economic stimulus to our country and even if some of that oil or even all of that oil gets exported. the canadians have a chance to export it and we have a chance to keep it here and buy it. >> congressman welch, you're smiling, but i would say it's not in agreement. >> i don't agree. here's, there's two issues, one is the oil. but the other is the process. and that's really what we're talking about here. when you do have a major pipeline there's a process that's followed and essentially what congress has done is acted as a planning board with 535 of us, we're acting so we can exempt this project from the standard review process. secondly, we're giving an earmark in effect to transcanada
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saying they unlike other companies, don't have to pay into a mitigation fund in the event there is an environmental spill. and then third, this is really about politics. we've got a republican in the house who is running for u.s. senate in louisiana we've got a democrat in the senate in louisiana running desperately for re-election and this is all about trying to give one or the other of them an edge up and that's not the wi we should be making a decision on a plaj pipelipip major pipeline that's going through environmentally sensitive areas. >> the president is expected to veto it and then we'll have the next round of discussion about whether it goes forward over the veto or not. now congressman king, you came on the show and created controversy when you said families were worried about young girls they sent up here because they were preparing to be raped. it showed you had some sensitivity to the plight of the families. do you think there's a chance
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that the republicans and the democratic brothers and sisters can get together and do something to help these families so the president doesn't have to use his executive order? >> well if the president is never going to have to use his executive order, but i would say to the families that were upset about what i had to say about their vulnerability to rape. what i delivered was what i learned down there from caregivers, we should be upset. all of us should be upset about a circumstance where families would send their daughters up with a 30 to 70% chance of being sexually abused on the way. that's appalling for me. i can't imagine doing that with say one of my granddaughters. but there is a chance that we can get together on some of this. the house passed a pretty good border security bill in august. that sits there yet. the senate could take that up during this lame duck session. >> does it protect the families? >> it does, in this way. it sends people back instead of putting them into the custody of health and human services and everybody down on the border, democrats and republicans,
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hispanics and nonhispanics all said they will keep coming unless you send them back. and that's what must happen. we cannot have an open borders policy. we'll empty out central america and the united states is going to be buried. under the burden of the social services that we so willingly provide. >> final word, congressman welch on this issue? >> well, i appreciated the tone of your question. because it suggested both of us, both sides have the responsibility to try to address some of these major issues. immigration is big deal in vermont. we've got farm workers who are really essential to milking our cows. we've got high-tech folks that can't get h-1 visas to provide skills we need and we've got all of these kids, many of whom were born here, when they were two years old. they want to go to college and they have to come out of the shadows. i appreciate the fact that the president is pressing the issue. we should, we should work on this and get it done. >> well there's a lot of families at risk and you know
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what happens when you separate kids from their parents, it's horrible. and those big employer who is are hiring all those people, you don't hear enough from you guys down there in d.c. about how you're going to go after them. but congressmans welch and king, good to have you on "new day." appreciate it. missouri's governor declaring a state of emergency, calling out the national guard to keep the peace in ferguson when the grand jury decision on officer darren wilson comes in. so we'll go there live for you. and immigration hot-button issue in washington. will the president act by executive order or is there still room for some sort of compromise? we'll debate that next. dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family,
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almost half-past the hour and a look at the headlines, u.s. and israel condemning an attack at a jerusalem synagogue as terrorism. four israelis killed, six others wounded. the two palestinian attackers were shot and killed by police. hamas is applauding the attack. israeli prime minister benjamin netenyahu is promising a harsh response. back at home, a virginia woman has been charged with lying to the feds about trying to connect a contact of hers with isis. heather kaufman caught the eye of authorities after praising the terrorists on her facebook page. 29-year-old was arrested when she promised to link up an undercover fbi agent with the group in syria and later told officials she had not done so. the charges against her could be upgraded. federal court challenges have been filed against affirmative action policies at harvard, and the university of north carolina, chapel hill. among the key allegations,
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harvard specifically limits the number of asian-americans it admits each year. the suit says there are quote race-neutral alternatives, including socioeconomics and boosting financial aid. both universities say their policies fully comply with federal law. i'm not going to lie to you, the next story makes me very squeamish. former baseball slugger jose canseco shot off his finger last month. had it reattached by doctors. now he claims it fell off during a poker tournament and he's planning to auction it on ebay. he says the ad will read -- quote slightly used middle finger with 462 home runs could be used as a stirring straw for drinks. one problem ebay says it has a rule forbidding the sale of body parts. >> too bad. >> so much for that christmas gift. we want to turn to ferguson, once again as the nation waits for a grand jury to decide whether or not to indict a ferguson police officer for the shooting death of michael brown.
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missouri's governor not taking any chances. he's calling in the national guard, as declaring a state of emergency just in case the officer is cleared and violence flares. a strong possibility according to the latest guidance from the fbi. we want to head to st. louis now and bring in liz brown, she is a columnist for the "st. louis american." we've had you with us on show before. glad to speak to you again. i'm curious about your reaction to the governor's declaration of a state of emergency and calling in the national guard. you see this as -- some people are couching it, as preemptive preparation or do you see this as a provocation? >> i think both of it. both of them, but not necessarily from that perspective. it's a provocation, it's an act of, it's a provocation, because what it assumes it is by looking at the citizens' actions that the citizens are being looked at
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as walking criminal acts. we have to skt question of whether or not it's even legal for the governor to preemptively declare a state of emergency. there has to be a man-made disaster of major proportions. so what is the man-made disaster of major proportions that would allow a governor to declare a state of emergency? because if we are going to declare an emergency based upon what we think people are going to do, let's start with nba playoffs. we know that there's rioting in the streets. we know there are actions that are lawless. so every time there's an nba playoff final -- let's declare a state of emergency. >> interesting perspective. i want to play a little bit of sound from the player of st. louis, describing the role of the guard saying they're not going to be on the front lines. take a listen and i'll get your reaction. >> this would be from our standpoint, a secondary role.
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we would not have the guard on the front lines interacting with, dealing with, confronting protesters. they would be used for three different approaches. one would be visibility. deterrence and then the other, early warnings. >> the concern last time when there were officers of the law there, there was concern that it gave the appearance of a militarized zone. yet we hear the mayor talking about the fact that this would be more of a interaction, conversation, that they would be there as a visibility. do you think there's a mixed message going on here? >> did we lose liz? liz, are you able to hear me any more? i think we may have lost our communication link with liz, she's not able to hear us now. we were hoping to -- she's back now? liz, can you hear me now?
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all right. unfortunately that we lost that because there's a lot of conversation going on, a lot of people are wondering with all this preparation, where are the calls for peace. you know the community leaders were quite vocal in ferguson over the summer and many people are wondering, are there people call for peace now as we prepare for this decision to be released. >> the man who runs the local paper and works the community pretty hard. we hope that's true. all these things go together. the state needs to prepare for what's going to happen there. they were not prepared the last time. so you just have to hope that -- >> but there's nuance in it, right? >> michael brown's family is calling for peace. so obviously we will watch what happen there is. also, when will president obama use his executive authority to reform immigration? and when he does, will it go far enough or too far? we'll skaus skdiscuss all of th democratic congressman keith
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the president warning he's willing to take executive action on immigration. millions of undocumented immigrants could be granted amnesty in an effort the president says to keep familiar list together. but republicans call it overreach and an abuse of executive power. let's bring in congressman keith ellison, a democrat from minnesota and the co-chair for the congressional progressive caucus, good morning, congressman. we understand that you have strong feelings about what the president should do with immigration. what's your suggestion? >> i think the president should use the authority he lawfully has to try to advance the ball on immigration reform. we support it from the progressive caucus standpoint.
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we think uniting families is important. we think that these are critical considerations. and the president should move forward. the republicans can put up a bill and we can vote on it. but they haven't done that they refused to. so if they refuse to act, the president must act because the country needs it. >> here is senator mike lee explaining that if the president does act, he's actually going against the will of the american people. listen to this. >> he can listen to the american people, who have just spoken, just weeks after he said his policies will be on the ballot and one of those policies was in fact possible executive action on amnesty. he can list tonight american people, which i think would be good. >> congressman, does senator lee have a point? the american people voted in republicans during the mid terms. >> well, you know we had a 72-year low in voter turn-out, 36% of the american public turned out to vote. i don't call that a mandate. what did senator lee say about
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the fact that in several states things that are progressive policies like increasing the minimum wage won and even though the democrats didn't. the fact is the electorate has a lot of complicated things it thinks. but the fact is that there's no mandate here. what there is is obstruction and stymieing from republicans and the president should forward for the better. of the nation. >> let's move on to ferguson, have you had discussions with officials in ferguson or the congressional black caucus about how to provide leadership and preserve some calm there? >> well you know, lacy clay, is the congressman who has been closest to this issue. we've been consulting with them. we do urge calm. we want to uphold safety for everyone. but there's no doubt that these, these issues, when there's clear
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or it seems like there's substantial evidence that a citizen has been abused, mistreated, excessive force and the justice system doesn't seem to deliver. people's emotions run high, but we urge people to be calm and seek out the constructive solution. >> the ferguson police says there's not substantial evidence that there was excessive force used. what will you say if the grand jury decides not to indict? >> well i want to see what happens before i start predicting what i'm going to say. what i'm going to tell su having practiced law for 16 years, an indictment is really a tool of the prosecutor. if they want one, they're going to get it. there is no hiding behind the grand jury here, what will happen is an expression of the will of the law enforcement authorities in that jurisdiction. >> have you spoke ton president obama about the situation in
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ferguson? >> no, i have not. >> we had heard he had been meeting with some congressional leaders and he was considering what his reaction should be and if he should go there. >> i think it's important for our criminal justice system in the united states that the police have a duty to protect and serve the public. we can't have a situation where whole sections of the public feel that they're over-policed and underprotected. there's numbers of situations all over the country where these sort of tensions have erupted and have caused a great deal of damage. time to get to the root of the problem and promote justice for all americans. including the mike browns of this world. >> one topic we wanted to talk to you about today. is developing stories overnight. we understand the white house is reviewing its policy of how to deal when american hostages are taken overseas. some hostages' families feel
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that the government has actually threatened them, when they've been trying to get their loved ones back however they can they feel that our u.s. government has threatened them with prosecution and has been an impediment to them trying to do what they can do to protect their loved ones. how do you think the u.s. government should handle this? >> of course my compassion runs to the family. these are horrific barbaric acts of terrorism that have been committed against these three americans. but this issue is not so simple. once you start paying ransoms, you make more americans target. then these people like isis and others will capture people because they know they're going to get paid. this is not a simple issue. you have the clear emotional needs of the family to protect their loved ones. and on the other side you've got a policy where if we start down this road, i believe we will regret it even more. i think it's appropriate for the president to review the policy to try to see if we are pursuing the right policy. to see if it can be improved. at the end of the day, this is a
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very knotty subject pitting personal family needs against the general needs of the whole. so i do urge the president to review the policy, understanding that this is a very complicated issue. >> it sure is. it's a tough one. congressman keith ellison, thank you so much for joining us. cops say they're doing it to keep you safe. but it appears innocent men are being stopped and frisked for no reason. is stop and frisk part of the solution or part of the problem? cnn's new documentary film "black and blue" covers this. and soledad o'brien is here to give you a preview. s pro. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price.
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from 2002 to mid 2013, new york city police reported making nearly five million stops. >> i don't sleep until he comes home. quite frankly. and i know he is not in cuffs or in anybody's morgue. the fact that it happens just about every single day? is overwhelming and can lead you to lose your head. but then, your future ends. >> that was a clip from a new installment of cnn's "black in
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america" series, soledad o'brien. the new film "black and blue" takes us into lives of men frisked 100 times without cause and the police insist they're doing it to fight crime. soledad o'brien joins us now. great to see you soledad. that's keyshawn, he said he's been stopped 100 times by the police. often on his way to college classes. often with his classmates and police and professors walking by and police have asked to open his backpack, and never once have they found anything, as a young man who's never been in any kind of legal trouble. and we thought it was a good example of how frustrating it is for many young men of color who are constantly stopped by the police in an effort to stop crime, but often aren't doing anything wrong.
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and what that does for someone's psyche. >> of course, the nypd will said that crime rates have plummeted since they started the stop and frisk program. new york used to be a dangerous place in the '80s, your cars were constantly being broken into and drug crime. it's the broken windows theory, if you stop it before it happens, the crime rate comes down. >> the broken windows theory is if you take something to a broken window and react strongly to that, you're stopping a more serious crime from happening down the road. and there's many people who say that no real evidence that broken windows policing is working. although, certainly the police commissioner thinks so and has actually upped his broken windows policing. >> but how would they explain the plummeting of the crime rate in new york if that theory doesn't work? >> crime is plummeting everywhere, number one. and there's no indication that a massive number of stop and frisk, we mentioned 5 million that have netted 80% are black and latino people, in which most cases, 90 plus percent of the time, nothing was found.
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there were no charges, is no weapons, nothing that was found on that person. that means you have a whole bunch of people who have been stopped for no reason at all. and i look at the example of, if i were walking down the street in my neighborhood and police said to me, hey, come over here, i want to go through your handbag. the first time i might be upset. the tenth time, i would be furious. the 50th time would say, why are you targeting me? i'm going to guess that doesn't happen in your neighborhood or my neighborhood. but it does happen in neighborhoods where police have been very strong about that. >> and your cameras captured another exchange between someone who was supposedly minding his business. >> why would i say that? >> we're checking to see if somebody -- >> i'm just trying to see if my ride is coming. >> go inside right now. go inside. >> what's -- >> we're not even doing anything. >> go up the stairs right now. >> what's the backstory? >> a young man says he's hanging
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out outside waiting for his ride to come. his cousin lives in the building. they're waiting for the ride to come. the police come up, and the entire exchange goes on for a couple of minutes. the police are the only once are cursing, the young men never once use foul language. the police say, do you want me to put you in cuffs? he's like, i can't understand, what do you mean? do you want me to put you in handcuffs. and you see the incredible disrespect that's being shown to these guys who are literally standing there waiting for their ride. the policeman doesn't say, hey, you guys are blocking the door, would you mind going in. the question that we're trying to answer in this documentary is one of balance. where is the line? what do you do to keep communities safe, but at the same time, not trample on somebody's civil rights. that's kind of a challenging question. >> we will look forward to watching your special tonight. it sounds like it will be extremely compelling. soledad o'brien, nice to see you. >> my pleasure. >> thanks.
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>> you bet. we want to talk to you about breaking news. we have new details emerging about the grisly attack at a synagogue in jerusalem. americans are among the fatalities. we'll take you live there and talk with a spokesman for the israeli police who was at the scene. stay with us. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we've always been on the forefront of innovation. when the world called for speed... ♪ ...when the world called for stealth... ♪ ...intelligence... endurance...
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good morning. welcome to "new day." it's tuesday, november 18th, 8:00 on the east. chris quo ma and alisyn camm
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cammerati. two palestinians stormed a synagogue and assaulted worshippers with axes and knives. hamas is celebrating the attack and israeli's prime minister is vowing a strong response. >> the deadly rampage left six others injured and the u.s. and israel are condemning the attack as terrors and tensions are spiking with fears growing of another flare-up in this region, of course, ages-old conflict. ben wedeman is live for us in jerusalem. ben, what do we know? >> reporter: what we know at this point is that the tensions are really focused on jerusalem itself, unlike the conflict this summer with gaza. and this is, as far as we can tell, the worst attack in jerusalem in six years. breaking overnight, a deadly terror attack shattering the peace of early morning prayers inside a jerusalem synagogue. they used axes and knives to attack the people.
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police say two palestinian men armed with knives, axes, and a handgun entered the building in an orthodox neighborhood in west jerusalem. >> this is -- simply has no place in human behavior. >> reporter: the assailants traveling from east jerusalem, killing four israeli civilians and injuring six others, including two responding police officers. this video shows israeli police trying to enter the synagogue to stop the attackers, were then shot and killed by police. >> israeli authorities calling this one of the deadliest terror attacks in the city in years. >> what you saw today is slaughter of innocent people, while they're praying in a synagogue. >> if the world doesn't unite against terrorism and give zero excuses for terrorism, this will haunt the world. >> reporter: a spokesman for hamas, quickly praising what happened is justifiable revenge for the death of a palestinian bus driver found hanged in his bus sunday. but palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas
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condemned the attack. as did israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, saying israel will respond with a heavy hand. his office posting on his official twitter account. this attack, the latest and most violent amid months of soaring tensions in the holy city, with a wave of attacks and kidnappings in recent weeks. >> now, the question is, of course, what can the israeli authorities do to stop these attacks. it's important to keep in mind that most of the perpetrators are coming from east jerusalem, which is under israeli control, security control. so it's very difficult to stop these. and the authorities are pondering what possible measures. now, i spoke to one israeli official who said they may go back to this whole system that goes back to the british mandate of house demolitions to try to deter any further attacks. chris? >> ben, i'll take it. it's all so complicated. and also, the question of what a heavy-handed response will look like. thanks so much.
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let's go over to chris. >> as you can see, we're switching guests there. let's bring in aaron david miller, former adviser to six secretaries of state and vice president for new initiatives and distinguished scholar for the woodrow wilson international center. we'll have mickey rosenfeld, foreign press spokesman for the israeli police. gentleman, thank you for joining us. mickey, if can i start with you, you were at the scene. we understand the pictures are so grisly that we don't want to show them to the audience. but, please, give us a sense of what happened. >> what took place this morning, just after 7:00, a horrific terrorist attack that was carried out by two palestinians in east jerusalem. they entered inside the synagogue, where there was many people praying peacefully, quietly, and calmly, the morning jewish prayers. they used knives and axes and fired a 9-millimeter weapon at the people that were praying inside the synagogue. immediately, our police officers were dispatched to the area. seven and eight minutes -- just
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seven minutes after the attack was known to israeli police officers, the two terrorists were already engaged by police officers and shot and killed. the investigation is continuing, obviously, and with heightened security in jerusalem at the moment after this morning's terrorist attack. and we've also confirmed, right now, the funerals are, in fact, taking place in jerusalem. that four of the people, the rabbis that were killed, three of them were american dual citizens and one was an english dual citizen man. >> and in terms of why they used the weapons that they did, do you think this was just about convenience for the attackers? or do you think it was to send an even more violent message? >> this was a sporadic attack that was carried out by two terrorists from east jerusalem. we've seen over the last 24 and 48 hours continuing encitement both by the palestinian authorities as well as the palestinian media, calling upon
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extremist mum l extremist muslims to carry out attacks in jerusalem. and unfortunately, we saw today the significant and terrible effects of that encitement on the ground level. people, rabbis that were worshiping, respectful people this morning that were killed innocently in jerusalem in a quiet neighborhood in north jerusalem. >> micky, we understand your outrage and obviously thoughts and prayers are with the families of those who were lost and the victims, regardless of where they come from, their lives should be respected. aaron, let me bring you in on this. it is relevant on one level that they were dual citizens, because that means now the fbi will get involved. this brings us to an interesting point you made in one of your recent op-eds, where you talk about what the u.s. should have as a reasonable set of expectations about what it can control in places like the conflict between israel and palestine. what do you make of this? >> first of all, i think you have a new kind of terror, driven by a number of factors,
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which i'm afraid may well represent the wave of the future. one is proximity. if initial reports are true, one of the people who is responsible for this terror attack actually worked at grocery store adjacent or close to the synagogue. so that means that far from being a spontaneous act, this may well have been targeted. not that this was somehow authorized by hamas, although encitement does play a role. and number two, it's not unprecedented, but the reality is, i'm not sure there is much of a precedent for an attack against a local synagogue in jerusalem or in israel, generally. there are thousands of these throughout the country. and it took years for israelis to adjust themselves to putting armed guards at schools, shopping malls, and theaters. now you have the risk of a much more serious escalation. and finally, you do have this proximity problem. these attacks are not coming from the west bank, they're coming from palestinians in east
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jerusalem, where israelis and palestinians mix on a daily basis. and if you add to that, micky's notion of encitement and israeli efforts to -- or at least the perception that israel is out to stage the status quo and no prospects of any political process, what you have is a really witch's brew, which i'm afraid is going to continue without much hope right now of resolution. >> micky, let me get back to you one second. do you believe there's any reason of suspicion that these particular rabbis were targeted by these men? maybe because of their dual citizenships? >> no, part of the ongoing investigation is being asked to believe that the two suspects, the two terrorists worked on their own, that they planned the attack ahead of time. we're obviously looking to see if they were affiliated either with the hamas or the jihad or any other terrorist cell. but one aspect we're looking
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into is how did they know their neighborhood, were they familiar with the area that they targeted at 7:00 in the morning, where they knew so many respectable people praying the early prays. the investigation is continuing at the moment. and heightened security both in and around north jerusalem neighborhoods as well as east jerusalem neighborhoods, in order to prevent any further terrorist attacks from taking place. there were some disturbances in the neighborhood where the terrorists came from as well, where police quickly responded and made nine arrests. so there are tensions that are being felt. but unfortunately, after this sad and pretty much sickening attack this morning, heightened security will continue in all general security public places around jerusalem, the light railway, public train stations, and bus stops as long as necessary. throughout the day, security measures are still being carried out, and let's just emphasize that there are six people in hospital, four in serious condition, including a police officer who is in critical condition at the moment.
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>> and that's an important note to make. we don't know how much life may be lost there. micky, is it true that they may reinstitute the older policy of house demolition, as a way of clearing the area and securing it? and if so, how would that work? >> well, whatever decision will be made by the government will be implemented by the minister of internal security and the israeli national police if necessary for our units to be deployed in different israeli arab neighborhoods. that will be done immediately. just over a week ago, we had big blockades that were set up in order to prevent those palestinian vehicles from driving into public areas, and that was very effective and very efficient, but let's not forget, just recently, they were removed as a gesture after last weak's friday prayers on the temple mount where things were relatively quiet. so heightened security will continue in jerusalem. >> well, aaron, this is what leads you, this kind of back and forth of violence and just regrettable outcomes, leads you to describe the middle east as
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bad, which is an acronym for broken, angry, and dysfunctional. when you look at the future, whether it's israeli/palestinian relations or what's going on with many different nation states, what do you believe this is a reflection of? >> what i see, chris, sadly, is a region in the process of meltdown. certainly in the arab and muslim world, that's true. in fact, you could make an argument that the three most consequential nations in this region right now are the three non-arabs. israel, iran, and turkey, all are politically stable, all have tremendous economic potential, all have military power, with very competent intelligence services, and two of the three have close relations with the united states. as far as the arab world is concerned, though, i'm afraid that civil war, dysfunctional politics, the absence of gender equality, the absence of the accountability and transparency with exceptions in tunisia and perhaps kurdistan, i suspect you
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have a region in the end that will produce a series of outcomes, not solutions. the question for us, for the obama administration and for this president's successor is how can the united states really practically and realistically shape those outcomes in a way that is -- that can protect its own interests and perhaps reintroduce a measure of stability and political progress in this very broken, angry, and dysfunctional region. >> well, the solution there remains evasive, but the problem is literally all around us and seen in very horrible fashion in what happened the jerusalem today. micky, thank you very much for joining us. i know you have a lot of work to do. i'm sorry to have to speak to you under these circumstances. aaron, appreciate the perspective as always. we'll be following on this story. there are a lot of headlines this morning. >> the governor of missouri declaring a state of emergency in ferguson even before a grand jury has decided whether or not to indict a police officer for
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the shooting death of mike brown. the fbi also warning of potential violence. governor jay nixon says he does not want a repeat of the summer violence that has plagued the st. louis suburbed. breaking overnight, president obama has ordered a thorough review of the policy regarding american hostages, including how families are kept informed and how the government can secure their release. it comes following the deaths of three american hostages at the hands of isis, including former u.s. soldier and humanitarian aid worker, peter kassig. louisiana senator mary landrieu says the bill has enough support to pass. democrats have been pushing the bill since the election when landrieu landed in a runoff for her seat. the house approved the pipeline last week. however, president obama has expressed skepticism. promising new research from people looking to combat cholesterol problems. a comprehensive study shows the drug vitorin helps bring down
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cardiac events more than 6%. it's a combination of two drugs, a statin, and another drug that prevents it from being absorbed. the results could be a game changer, but for now, no major changes in recommendations from leading medical groups. thought we'd pass that along to you. >> thanks, mikalah. another woman is coming forward claiming bill cosby drugged and raped her when she was just a teenager. we'll hear her story when she joins us live. >> and a state of emergency issued in ferguson. the government ready to keep the peace. but are those preparations making it more likely there will be violence when the grand jury makes its decision? perspective from the ground, coming up.
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assault keep coming out against bill cosby. another woman stepping forward, saying the comedian drugged and raped her on two occasions. joan tarshus was only 19 years old at the time. she says she never went to the police, but she says it's important to go public now and joan joins us this morning. good morning, joan. >> good morning, alisyn. >> tell us what you say bill cosby did to you when you were 19 years old. >> well, briefly, i had met him for lunch with some friends up in his bungalow while he was shooting "the bill cosby show," his first sitcom. and i was invited back by him a few times and on to the set and one day, he introduced me to sidney portier. he used to call me midget, because i'm 5'3", and he knew that i had written comedy for
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godfrey cambridge and asked me to stay after he was fished shooting and go up to bungalow and work on some comedy with him. and i thought, whoa, that's neat. that's a good idea. and i told him i was working on a bit about earthquakes in los angeles. >> yes. and then what happened when you got to his bungalow? >> so we went up to his suite, and he knew that i liked to drink bloody marys and he topped them off with a bit of beer, which he called a red eye. and i drank one of those and -- which he made for me. and the next thing i remember is being on his couch with him taking my clothes off. and feeling very drugged and very hazy. >> and so he took your clothes off and then he sexually assaulted you? >> no, first i said to him -- he
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was starting to, and i said, i have an infection -- i thought i was being clever. i said, if you have sex with me, your wife will no, she'll catch my infection. and he very quickly made me give him oral sex instead, which was horrible. >> so, joan, that was in 1969. and why, why have you waited so long to tell people about it? >> well, i was approached years ago by a tabloid who wanted to pay me money to give them my story, and it just wasn't the way to go. i just didn't know how to broadcast my story. also, my parents were a lot younger, and i did not want them to know this. my parents are now in their 90s, so, yeah. >> and joan, why didn't you go
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to the authorities? why didn't you go to the police? >> who was going to believe me? it's he said/she said. bill cosby is mr. america. he's mr. -- he's the perfect father. he's the perfect husband. his image is, you know, clearer and whiter than the whitest snow. who's going to believe me? they think i was out for something. i didn't think i'd be believed. >> and in fact, joan, there has been backlash now against your accusations and against the other accusers who have come forward this week. whoopi goldberg, a fellow comedian, talked about this just yesterday. listen to what she had to say. >> right. >> half the police might have believed it or the hospital. where you go -- don't you do a kit when someone has raped you, don't the police -- >> a rape kit is what it's called. >> isn't that the next step once you make an allegation? and one of the things of getting
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accused of a lot of stuff when you're famous does, it opens the door for everybody to come out and say, and me too, boss, me too. it's like a bugs bunny cartoon. so you have to really take a minute and follow the evidence. >> basically, she's saying that maybe the police would have believed you. >> however, i don't think there were such kits in 1969. if there were, i was 19, i didn't think of it. i didn't know about it. i didn't think about going to the hospital. never crossed my mind. the only thing that crossed my mind was i wanted to get out of there and get home. >> yeah. social media also is responding to these accusations against bill cosby. let me read you some of the tweets that we have received. the first one said, no one would believe them before. cosby is such a nice guy. he wouldn't do such a thing. second says, they just want his money. the third says, leave this man alone. it's been tried and failed.
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he's an icon. that's all i have to say about that. >> what's your response to people who say you're doing it because he's a celebrity, he's a target, you want money, those types of things? >> well, i don't know how i would get any money. and if i could, i would do these interviews with a bag over my head, to be anonymous. and i don't want any money. if i wanted money, i would have spoken to the tabloids years ago, who did offer me money. and there's nothing for me to gain. i just want to join forces with my sisters who have, who have also been brave enough to admit this story. and i know he's an icon. i know it. it's like, but so is bill clinton. >> and since there is nothing for you to gain, as you say, why do you want to speak public apply about it now? >> well, it's been on my mind
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since 1969. and i wanted to give more credibility to the women that have come before me. those are the real courageous ones. i'm also hoping that perhaps more women will come out. i mean, i believe he was doing this from the time he was on "i spy" and i'm not sure whether he has stopped doing it. he's a serial rapist. and i don't believe serial anythings quit what they do. i think they do it until the day they die, until they can't do it anymore. >> bill cosby was on npr, on a radio show this weekend and he was asked about these accusations. let me play for you that exchange. >> this question gives me no pleasure, mr. cosby, but there have been serious allegations raised about you in recent days. you're shaking your head no. i'm in the news business, i have
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to ask the question. do you have any response to those charges? shaking your head no. there are people who love you who might like to hear from you about this. i want to give you the chance. all right. >> joan, how do you interpret his silence there when asked about it? >> i think it's very wise on his part. i mean, he didn't want to be asked any further questions about it, and it was a very smart thing to do. and i think his lawyer's response was the response of a lawyer whose client is guilty. >> his lawyer says,we we're not going to dignify these old allegations with a response. >> exactly. the word "we're not going to dignify them with a response," i have found out in my life, my
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experience, is said by somebody who is guilty. >> so joan, where do you want to see this go? how does this end? >> how it ends, if i had my druthers, people would believe it. they would not see him as mr. jell-o anymore, mr. huxtable, mr. nice guy. they would realize that there is a compartment in this man that's very ill and needs to be helped. he needs treatment. he needs help. he needs to get well. >> joan tarshis, we appreciate you coming on and sharing your story with us. thanks for talking this morning. >> thank you. >> let's go back to chris. >> all right. so the national guard is being called in as ferguson waits for a grand jury's decision in the shooting death of michael brown. is the city taking the right steps to keep the peace? we have legal experts, weighing in.
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nixon, has declared a preemptive state of emergency. nixon says he does not want a repeat of the ugliness we saw this summer. peaceful protesters say authorities' anticipation of violence may actually cause violence. let's discuss the issues at play here. we have hln legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, mr. joey jackson. joey, always a pleasure. >> good morning, chris. >> state of emergency sounds like something that it is not. it sounds like you are in crisis. what it really is, isn't it, is a way of just releasing the funds and having what you need, isn't it? >> it certainly could be construed that way. i guess the governor is doing something preemptive as opposed to waiting for what may happen, at least getting the troops marshaled up in anticipation of something happening. is it a right decision? is it a wrong decision? it remains to be seen. hopefully, chris, i know people will have views to this. they do have view. people are very impassioned about this, one way or the other. so whatever happens, let's hope it's peaceful and people enjoy their right to protest in the
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first amendment, in a democracy, in a way that doesn't impair the safety of others. >> maybe the weather is a blessing, because it will keep outsiders -- and we covered it. there were people who weren't from ferguson, anarchists or agitators, coming in and seeing it as an opportunity. hopefully the people that are there have the right intentions. >> this speaks to larger issues. that's why you have the fbi investigating, to see whether there's a systemic pattern in ferguson. is that pattern something that's been emblazoned in them. should it change in the future? are there other localities and municipalities that are like this? and that's why you see across the country, people, right, not some with their views, but other localities, marching, et cetera, but no matter what anyone does, we expect and of course hope that it's peaceful, that people share those passions, and share their views, but that businesses are not shut down and everybody sort of does the right thing
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here. >> representative keith ellison out of minnesota was on the show today. and one of the things he discussed was ferguson. and he said something very interesting, somewhat casually in the interview. if a prosecutor wants an indictment, he gets one. a grand jury is a tool, you can't hide behind the grand jurors. if there is no indictment, that's the way the outcome was anticipated by the office. do you agree with that? >> it's interesting, chris, how many times have we heard, a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. who said that? our court of appeals person. but the reality is, as a grand jury, you really are at the sort of mercy of the prosecutor. what information they convey to you, how they convey it, how they tailor the presentation to you. so it is true that in general terms, the grand jury will indict. why? because it's a wing of the prosecution. i think what the prosecutor is doing in this instance is presenting all the information to them, good, bad, or indifferent and letting them make the decision. >> we don't know that, though? we don't know what he's presenting? >> we have no idea. from what we read and from what
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we understand, and certainly, chris, from knowing that dr. boddebo baden, who was hired by the family, he's present everything, but that never happens. >> they asked for it. in missouri, you're allowed to ask for things. and they asked for dr. baden's testimony. they weren't denied it, but they weren't initial ll lly suppliedy the prosecution. >> and a grand jury is an investigatory body. and they'll be instructed on the law and a grand jury as the right, if they want to request other information to get it. so let's just hope that they've gotten all the information and they can make an educated, informed, and just decision, no matter what that decision is. >> and it does happen all the time, while the ham sandwich thing is true in large extent, prosecutors try to get indictments on guys all the time and don't. >> well, generally speaking, if a prosecutor wants an indictment, they'll get an
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indictment. >> but it does happen. >> it does happen. there are those rare instances. and there are sentences where you have your client testify. in this grand jury, we understand that darren wilson testified and perhaps he did himself some justice when he did testify. we don't know. >> that's a big qualifier also, right? because usually, you don't -- joey does brilliant defense work. you wouldn't have your client go anywhere near a grand jury. but if one does go in there, it really does change the dynamic of what can happen. >> it certainly could. remember, the grand jury, you tailor the information that's presented. and when the used goes and testifies, grand jurors many times have often questions. and if the accused does well and testify in a compelling fashion and they address the issues that the grand jurors have of them, then it certainly could convince the grand jury that, you know what, maybe we shouldn't indict here. >> and the normal rules don't apply in terms of protections for hearsay and different types of testimony that you will have with the judge, because it's just the prosecutor. >> exactly, right. >> but of course the allegation is here is the prosecutor the
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people's attorney or is he working on behalf of the officer? is that a fair criticism? >> well, it could be fair, but we should reserve judgment, only because, as we know, in the event that there's not an indictment, i think the prosecutor, mccullough had said, chris, that he will release and be transparent about everything presented. so i think society and everyone will have an opportunity to see what he presented, what he didn't present. what he instructed as a matter of law, and what he didn't instruct as a matter of law, it will be open for everybody else to see. and we'll examine it at that time exactly what he did in that grand jury. we know it's not him, there are two assistants presenting the case on his behalf. >> what do you think about the timing of this? there's been a lot of anticipation about this. people will blame the media, but the system is working with the anticipation of it also. this is not something that's just been kept on the down low, so to speak. releasing it on the weekend, is that a smart move? should they have the family come in and have them be an advocate
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for the correct response? >> sure, i think families should always be involved in the process. >> and they haven't here? >> and that's problematic. every district attorney's office should reach out and let the family know, as a matter of courtesy, there's someone who's dead here, and that really hurts. and you want to keep your family included. and in this instance, the general public should be given some advance notice to when the indictment will be, because people are gearing up, there's anticipated protest, we know the national guard issue is there. so if it's on a weekend, maybe there's less traffic. >> kids aren't in school. >> exactly. children aren't in school, and therefore off the street. so if people take this the wrong way and get antsy about it, no one's harmed or injured. >> joey, always appreciate the perspective. you've been weighing in online. please continue to do so. the only thing i'll say, remember, they are not deciding whether or not officer wilson committed a crime. they are just deciding whether or not there are significant questions of fact that there's probable cause to believe a crime was committed. it's a huge, huge distinction.
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>> a great point. >> it's a much lower bar. we'll keep following it. >> let's go with the five things you need to know for your new day. number one, three israeli americans are among four people killed in a barbaric attack on a jerusalem synagogue. the fbi is now launching an investigation. the u.s. and israel call it terrorism as hamas celebrates this atrocity. and as you just heard, the state of missouri declaring a state of emergency and calling on the national guard in case officer wilson is cleared in the shooting death of michael brown. the 44-year-old surgeon succumbed to ebola monday after being brought to nebraska. the brutal murders of three americans by isis prompting president obama to order a complete review of u.s. policy, concerning americans taking hostage by terrorists overseas. and at number five, the senate is poised to pass a bill green lighting the controversial
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keystone pipeline. president obama expressed skepticism about this project, which still faces several legal hurdles. we do update those five things to know, so be sure to visit newday.cnn.com for the latest. the fighting and bloodshed in syria have left a flood of refugees. arwa damon visits the volunteers caring for the war's youngest victims. >> reporter: with new backpacks almost as big as they are, the children file into the orphanage after school. their faces and behavior betray few of the horrors they have witnessed or their suffering. their fathers are dead, lost to illness or war in syria. their mothers decided to send them here. >> what's your name? >> my name is arwa, what's your name? >> my name is malal. >> reporter: she's 8. her father killed by a bullet on his way to work. daddy used to take me everywhere
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with me, she tells us. the orphanage opened in september, offering a safe place. toys replace those they left behind as they fled syria. clean water to wash with and regular hot, healthy meals. the orphanage was established by a foundation named after another little girl who was paralyzed by shrapnel. >> to give them the right to have a normal life away from the war. >> reporter: and the impact is already being seen. the head of the orphanage says maram was very solitary, often lost in the memories of her father. i would see him in my dreams, maram remembers. i would see him giving him something. she seems less haunted by his death, dreaming instead of going home to syria and teaching
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arabic. arwa damon, cnn, turkey. >> our thanks to arwa for that very important reporting. it's good to have that in impact your world. we have a good one for you, coming up. he has been in the company of some of the biggest names in hollywood. or we really should say, they've been lucky to be in his company. how dick cavett wrote a book and is here reading it himself. what he thinks of the book. look, he's laughing. must be funny. can't wait to get the next big thing?
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good to have you back with us here on "new day." elizabeth taylor, marlon brando, groucho marks. our next guest has spoken with all of them. now dick cavett, one of the biggest, greatest talk show hosts of all time is documenting them along with some interesting and quirky personal anecdotes in a new book, "brief encounters" dick cavett is here with us. >> i thought you were naming your friends. >> i wish! those would be friends i would relish. this is quite a collection. why do it this way?
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and i'm glad you did, though. >> somebody had noted that i had written enough "new york times" blog columns for a previous book called "talk show," and somebody else noted that i had another appropriate number to get out another book and hustle and go on people's shows and pretend it's not -- >> is that what's happening right now? >> all of these were originally in my times online column. people still don't know about online. they'll say, i never see your articles in the times. and i say, that's on paper, i'm online. >> you had so many brief encounters, and all of them sound, you know, tantalizing, including meeting elizabeth taylor. you describe what it was like to see her in real life. >> yeah, the myth about aura is -- and people who emanate something is often exaggerated, but in her case, marlon brando's
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case, and in other ways, great comedian's case, you are in touch with something that's sort of like a mist about them. and taylor's breath took your beauty away. i'm sorry. >> i think that works also, by the way. i bet you there was something about her that literally could just drain you. >> i'm afraid i stole that. he said, her breath would take your beauty away. just now, it was accidental. >> people make a mistake when they say, oh, yeah, he interviewed all these celebrities. and that's great, but they're professionals. you know, they're so good at it. really, the opposite is true. they can be some of the hardest, most difficult interviews in terms of process. yes, they liked you, yes, they craved being on your show, you had a lot of juice.
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but when they would sit across from you, how would you prepare yourself for, oh, boy, this one looks like they're having a bad day. >> or these two are going to fight right in front of me. >> well, having been a guest on talk shows, i had the advantage of having gone on merv and every time a cavett show was canceled, my fellow nebraskan, johnny carson would say, do you want to come on richard, and i would, and he would say, it's going to be armed forces radio. we were great friends. but i know what you mean. you have to sit and gauge them. you have to think, this person is disturbed about something. my god, this is katharine hepburn and her cheek is twitching, she's nervous, i have to calm her down. and then we did. and then this memorable telesthn she did for me began to roll out. i think it's just instinct. you can either make people
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comfortable or you can't. apparently i could, and then they would say, i don't know how you got me to talk about that. >> and you still do. that's one of the reasons you make such a great guest when you come to visit us. i think it's also really something else that you, not only made those things happen, you made some of these moments happen, you facilitated them, right? >> you're right! >> well, you did. you allowed for some of this genius to sort of unfold. >> would this be an example of what you're talking about? >> yes, exactly, right now. >> betty davis, it was going great, she looked great, full show, i said, betty, you're famous for not liking this kind of thing, and she said, but you're a gentleman, richard, and i know i'm in good things. so what could i do but say, so how'd you lose your virginity? >> no? >> yeah, you can see that. i'll show it to you. oh, wait a minute, you must have lost your dvd box of -- >> i've still been waiting on that. that's been promised every time
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you're on the show. >> oh, what a cad you are. that's not exactly a cad, is it? >> mel brooks calls your new book the best bathroom reading i've ever written. each story takes just the right amount of time. >> i asked mel for a blurb, and that perfect blurb came back. i wish i had thought of it to use for other people's books. and good reading, by the way, you get the part. >> and on the front side, jimmy fallon does the introto the book, tell us about that relationship. >> which, of course had nothing to do with the time, but starts a whole new life in talk show and family and whatever, took the time to write a wonderful foreword. >> it's a really beautiful foreword. >> yeah. that kid is going to go places. >> he's got talent. >> that's exactly right. also makes a great point. he respects who came before him and how. and it's one of the things that sets him apart. and your ability to see the business for what it is today is just as sharp as ever. you actually, what was it, a
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year in advance of letterman leaving, you said, i think colbert will be the guy who replaces him. >> apparently, i did, yeah. >> do you recall saying it? >> i recall thinking it, but forgot i had said it. happens to me all the time. >> why him? why did you say that? >> because there's a life outside of these cameras. >> tell us. >> i could see how bloody smart he was and how intelligent and vast knowledge, beautifully educated, great guy. and to see all of him rather than that character that he has managed to continue years after people said, that's a bum career decision, two weeks, tops, who's going to sit and watch a guy be somebody else, and he said, well, i wrote a thing in "vanity fair" about him after meeting him first, and he said, it's awkward and difficult to think, here's what my reaction to what this guy is saying is, but i
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have to do another reaction to it, hoping to get some of his in. i hope this book will have one quote. the other one, same size, talk show, no matter how many funny things i felt i said, one was always cited about sarah palin. she seems to have no first language. >> you cad! >> you cad. >> that's a proper use of it. >> hey, the crew can laugh. >> the book is called "brief encounters." really a delight to have you here with us. >> thank you. you've got a job flanked by women. >> who's luckier than i? >> and he complains about it all the time? >> no, that's unfair. i'm writing a book about it right now. we could use dick's help on this next one. here's a question for you. would you notice if alisyn camerota wore the same outfit on air for a year? would you notice if i did? different answers, right? one news anchor, you're looking at him right now, he did exactly that. he changed his shirt and tie.
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same for 31% of 30 to 39-year-olds. that means thousands of dollars of free money left on the table. >> not acceptable! even i know that. christine would talk me down from that. thank you so much, christine. . i want to show you this crazy video. it's an australian tv news anchor. see anything unusual? as you see that go by. >> his hair stays -- >> every day for the past year, carl has been wearing the very same blue suit on the air. he started this because his co-anchor, lisa wilkinson, who you see in various outfits, she received a letter from a viewer complaining about what she was wearing. he started to realize that women on tv face a whole lot more criticism about their clothing than men. so the proof, after a full year of wearing the same suit every day on air, not a single person noticed. >> well, how can you notice a blue suit? i would notice if he kept his tie the same, but a plu suit is a blue suit is a blue suit, yes? >> we get a lot -- you know, look, if i had my hair standing
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up -- >> it's women who do it to you. do you get a lot of comments from men saying what you had on. >> absolutely. >> come on! >> as many as women? >> the fellows always compliment me on how i look. >> i always look at your dress. i don't look at your suit. >> that's my point. >> we notice when the president wore a tan suit, didn't we? >> i'm wearing lots of different -- >> is that the same suit? >> i don't know why i do it. you know how much money i waste on this stuff? i could wear the same thing every day. remember the day i did this show completely naked? nobody noticed and the ratings dropped. >> we're not surprised. let us know what you think about whether women are under the microscope, the fashion microscope more, and if it's fair. how does a man shamelessly wrestle a ball away from another fan? >> this is going to be a stretch, i think.
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so 70-year-old saints die-hard tony williams snatches it away from the young lady, becomes really a point of negativity in the stands, online, everywhere else. he defends himself. he says, hey, i got this for my grandkids. she's begging for it back. he says, no, i got it for my grandkids. the good news, the saints organization hears about the situation, comes down and gives another game ball. >> everybody's happy. >> fantastic! >> time now for newsroom with carol costello. >> how you doing? >> you sound so disappointed. >> my favorite show, carol. my favorite show. my favorite show. >> that's what we like to hear. newsroom starts now. happening now, the newsroom, breaking overnight, a synagogue attack in jerusalem. four people are dead. israel this in

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