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studying for final exams. we've learned that all classes and exams today have been canceled. the ints dent, a living nightmare for students trapped and their parents hearing the news miles away. cnn's susan candiotti following the breaking developments. >> picture this -- students hitting the books, hitting the books and studying for exams at fsu's campus in the library and the last thing they expect is this -- bullets flying. breaking overnight. >> are you serious? oh, my god, are you okay? >> moments of fear inside this florida state university library. one fsu student capturing it on cell phone video. >> this is the tallahassee police department. and the fsu police department, there has been a shooting in the library. stay where you are. >> it was just before 12:30 this morning when an unidentified gunman opened fire. >> as you know, somebody has a gun. we have somebody who has been
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shot. call 911. >> one man seen lying on the floor apparently shot in the leg as a librarian makes a frantic 911 call. the campus on lockdown as police swarm the building. students warned to quote seek shelter immediately. stay away from doors and windows, in a text message from the university emergency alert system. photos flood twitter as the ordeal unfolds. showing police with assault rifles inside the library, eventually leading the students to safety. at least three people injured, and transported to the hospital. one in critical condition. the shooter? shot and killed. >> he was challenged by those officers to drop his weapon. instead of complying with their commands, the gunman in turn fired a shot at the officers. and they returned fire, killing the suspect. >> after a nearly three-hour ordeal, university officials assuring the fsu community the
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situation is under control. >> this is a, an evolving crime scene, we're working it and working to insure that everybody is safe. >> as we said, all classes have been canceled. fsu's president issuing a statement calling it an isolated incident and saying security will be increased on campus today. the big question is -- who was the shooter and why and how could this happen? >> we're standing by for a live press conference. we'll get those answers hopefully. in the meantime, let's talk to somebody who managed to live through this, thank god. joining us by skype is sarah evans, an fsu senior, she was in the library when the shooting began. sarah, can you hear me okay? >> yes, i can. >> i'm old, i'm baffled by this skype technology. >> me, too, a little bit. >> you're in the library. how do you get word that this is happening? >> i was actually right by the exit. i was just about to leave the library.
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and i just hear what i thought was a gunshot. but not as loud as i would expect. so i was kind of sitting there, you know, not really alarmed at this point, but asking questions, what's going on, what's going on. and you know still just waiting around until i saw one of the employees looking frantic, going crazy and that's when i thought something was pretty wrong. >> you saw an employee come by. they seemed frenzied, so you started taking the video. what gave you the presence of mind to do that. >> well, i was asking, something was clearly wrong and i'm standing there with two friends and we were asking, with a is wrong. and nobody would say anything. so i thought, this isn't going right. so normally you know in today's day and age, what do you do, you take a video when things aren't going right. that's what i did. >> you're supposed to be told things as soon as possible. what was the notification, what did you hear from the school, what did they tell you to do? >> well as far as the event i wish i would have been told a bit sooner to move away from the
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entrance. as soon as the 911 call was made, we were signalled to go to the back of the library, head up the stairs, you know, just get completely out of the way. and then we were notified that fsu pd and tallahassee pd were on the way to secure the location. >> your friends and you were okay. is it true while you were taking the footage of what happened, you did come across somebody who was hurt? >> yeah, i will never forget the look on his face, he yelled, in the video, i've been shot. there's a gun and that's when everybody in the library freaked out and i didn't believe it. i think i was laughing in the video because i was like, what? you know. you're just not really prepared for something like that. so he just looked so shocked and i just didn't know what to do. i was like oh my gosh, are you okay? we wanted to get him help. he was wounded laying on the ground. that's when we really freaked out. >> it is surreal. we can see how you start to get very nervous when you recognize
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what's happened to him. were you able to get him help? do you know anything about what happened? >> yeah, they immediately rushed help. as far as i know all the victims are recovering, which is great to hear because you know my heart goes out to them and all of their families, that's all i care about at this point. you know i'm happy to be home safe. allky think about this them right now. >> he seems to be holing his hip. how long was it before he got help and before you were able to get out of there? >> to be honest, i think it had to be just a few minutes before he got help. because the police department came on the intercom quite quickly. but as soon as i saw him is when i started rushing back towards the exit. >> what are you being told about who did this and why? >> all we wanted was answers for the three hours that we were held in the building across from the library. and as far as i know, you know, the suspect was found, he opened fire and unfortunately the
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police had to fire back at him. i'm not sure who the shooter was. you know i just really care about the victims at this point. >> absolutely. and we also care about you and your parents, were you able to get them right away and make sure that they know you're okay? >> yes, i mean i called my dad right away. he was with me on the phone. my mom, i honestly waited a few minutes, i didn't want to freak her out because i knew she would be sleeping. but i didn't want her to see it on the news before she spoke with me. so i called them right away. >> this is not something you're supposed to see in university life or anywhere, and we know it's finals week on top of everything else. how is your head, how's your heart this morning? >> i mean i'm still a little bit shaky and i don't think it's this interview, it was a crazy experience, my friends are okay, we are all a little bit shaken up about the whole thing. because you know you're just not really prepared for a situation like this, no matter how many times you could go through it in
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your head. i've seen a lot of compassion and support from our student body already. and so i'm just pretty confident that we can all kind of come together and get through this as just the university together. >> we're sure you will. we're going to go now to the live press conference on what's going on so we can get more information. >> they're working with the campus police, to find out, we've been told an evolving crime scene. >> i'm officer dave northway, the public lick information officer for the tallahassee police department. we appreciate you coming out this morning at such an early hour. i'm going to provide you a recap of what occurred this evening. or early this morning, actually. for those of you who were not here for the very early-morning press conference that we had. and then we'll have several speakers after us. we are going to provide as much information as we can.
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investigativewise. please bear with us as this is a new investigation. it just occurred in the last several hours. we will provide all information that we can, but there are going to be questions that we are not going to be able to answer at times. we will do the very best we can to answer any of your questions. at approximately 12:30 this morning fsu pd received a call about an armed subject near the strosier library and officers were called to the scene, as they were driving to the scene, they were notified that an outside victim, an innocent victim, if you will was also injured, as occurred from the shooter. the initial report shows as they arrived on scene, they met the suspect in front of the library, they gave the suspect commands. and the suspect did not comply with the commands, and actually shot at one of the officers. they returned fire, and the subject was killed.
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officers are working at this time to secure the scene as they have done. and they have also checked all of fsu and we have no other initial indications to show there is a threat at this time. tpd was asked to come in via fsu police department to assist with the investigation and take over the investigative part of it. that means that our homicide investigators, our forensic technicians are in, they're interviewing witnesses and collecting evidence. this will go on for the next several hours. in a crime scene, the first time that we get there, that's the only time we're going to get the crime scene the way it was when we arrived and we will not release it until we're sure we collect all the information. this is lengthy in nature and we expect to be here for several hours. at this time i'm going to turn the podium over to chief michael
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delio he will speak about the investigation and introduce the next speaker. >> good morning. first and foremost, after any type of tragic event like this, everyone's thoughts and prayers are first and foremost with our victims. and their families at this time. obviously this will have long-lasting effects with all of them and that's our priority first and foremost is to victims and their well-being. as officer northerly just said, the next priority is to reassure everyone that there's no indication of any additional threats to the university, the students, or our community. at this time. all indications that we have based on the information right now is this is an isolated incident and one person acting alone. so we want to reassure everyone of their safety and this is an isolated incident in nature and it was just one person and this is no indication of any further threat to anybody. our team of first responders
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performed admirably this morning. when i say our team, i'm not talking just about the tallahassee police department, it's the fsu police department, they were the first primary responders. along with some of the tpd. also leon county ems, tallahassee fire department and we have local representatives from the fbi who responded to offer their assistance as well. which is the normal protocol in an active shooter type situation. everyone responding and pulling together. all of these agencies responded together, that is reflective of our previous joint preparation and training for critical incidents such as these. this is why we focus so much attention on working together, planning together, and openly and constantly communicating with each other for these thankfully very isolated incidents. we do preplan and pretrain. >> we're listening to one of the
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members of the tallahassee police department. they believe he was a solo gunman, he was taken out by campus police when he failed to surrender his weapon. we're awaiting, we'll monitor the press conference to find word of who did this and why. as soon as we get that we'll go back to you with it. other news to tell but, let's check in with michaela. >> good morning to you at home. an iowa man has been arrested near the white house after the secret service recovered a rifle and ammunition from his car. we're told aj capheim approached a uniformed officer near the entrance to the east wing and told that officer someone in iowa told him to drive to d.c. the 41-year-old is charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, more charges may be pending. the grand jury in ferguson, missouri, could rule on whether or not to indict officer darren wilson by tomorrow. law enforcement officials say they expect prosecutors to present their final evidence on friday and a decision could come shortly after. police have asked prosecutors to
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delay announcing the grand jury's ruling for 48 hours to prepare for possible violence. overseas, a defiant north korea threatening a nuclear test in response to a u.n. resolution on human rights violations. the resolution calls for the reclusive regime to be referred to an international court for crimes against humanity. pyongyang has condemned the move, vowing to bolster its military capability and to perform a fourth nuclear test. takata on the hot seat today, a company official will be grilled on capitol hill as part of a senate probe into its faulty air bags, one issue they're going to look at, why takata switched to a cheaper air bag propellent. officials say it's possible a sixth death is linked to the defect, 16 million cars with takata air bags are being recalled worldwide, more than ten million in the u.s. despite takata's refusal to issue a nationwide recall.
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>> and why they did it and what they knew and who knew. thanks, michaela. meanwhile president obama set to outline his plan for immigration reform tonight in a primetime speech as republicans brace for a fight. we'll have both sides for you. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you know how fast you were going? about 55. where you headed at such an appropriate speed? across the country to enhance the nation's most reliable 4g lte network. how's it working for ya? better than ever. how'd you do it? added cell sites. increased capacity. and your point is...
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president obama going to make a big go it alone speech on immigration in a primetime address, it will happen tonight as i said, and the president is going to outline his executive order. he is saying that what he will do will protect millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and that he will bypass congress to do this. now, of course, the republican opposition is up in arms. they're calling the president's action unprecedented and illegal and warning of retaliation, let's start with cnn's michelle kosinski live at the white house, what's the word there, michelle? >> tonight the president takes this executive action on immigration, expected to affect at least three million people, possibly as many as five million. this hasn't even been unveiled, but already the president is facing push-back from both
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sides. those who feel that this acting on his own doesn't go far enough and those republicans who feel it goes way too far. the president now ready to change the landscape for millions of undocumented immigrants in this country. and announcing his impending announcement on facebook. >> so what i'm going to be laying out is the things that i can do with my lawful authority as president. to make the system work better, even as i continue to work with congress and encourage them to get a bipartisan comprehensive bill that can solve the entire problem. >> what his plan will do, according to sources is not a path to citizenship. but temporary renewable relief. in the form of permission to stay without being deported and permission to work. expected to include parents of children who are american citizens or have legal status, so slong as those parents have been in this country at least five years. also, it will likely expand those same allowances granted by
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the president in 2012, to people brought here illegally as children. known as dreamers. but sources say, it is not expected to include parents of those dreamers. leaving some already to criticize it for not protecting families enough. on the other side, republicans furious. >> we can announce that we're prepared to cut off any funding that would implement or enforce his unconstitutional act. >> if he goes through with this, and he sticks a finger in the eye of the american people, with no thought, other than this is what i'm going to do, i think he jeopardizes long-term the democrats ever getting back in power again in washington, d.c. >> according to several polls, a majority of americans would rather see immigrants have a chance at lee galty. though a "u.s.a. today" poll shows slightly more people want the president to wait for congress to vote on immigration
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reform than to act alone now. so far we've heard republicans threaten everything from lawsuits to shutting down the government the. even impeachment. but the white house places the blame for congress failing to act on immigration reform firmly on their shoulders. and the white house says it feels confident that this executive action has a strong legal basis and that it will be firmly fully implemented. chris? >> michelle this reeks of brinksmanship. there will be a lot of talk today and we'll be talking it on on "new day." alisyn? let's talk about the plan, joining us is congresswoman linda sanchez, a democrat from california, a chairwoman of the congressional hispanic caucus and senior democratic whip, she met with the president last night getting the details of the plan. good morning, congresswoman. >> you were one of 18 democratic lawmakers who went to the white house to meet with the president for dinner and hear about his plan. what's he going to say tonight? >> well, i'm going leave the
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details to the president. it's his plan and i think he ought to be the one to announce it. i don't want to preempt that. but suffice to say that i think he's taking good first step in the right direction. but it still remains incumbent upon the congress to fix this prong in a long-term way and that is to legislate a comprehensive immigration reform. something that the republican leadership has been unwilling to do in the house. >> well the republicans say that the president is going too preempt them by taking executive action and they're not happy about it. they want more time to deal with this. in fact, they are threatening that if the president takes executive action, there will be retaliation on their side. let me play for you what senator ted cruz has just said about this. oh -- we don't have that sound byte right now, but i will get that for you. he's saying that he would block all judicial and senate, and nominees that the president puts up for the next two years. >> yeah. another great strategy, you know you can disagree with the
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president's policy. but don't hold up what the common ground where we can agree. i think you know, trying to link two things that are fundamentally not linked is not good for the country. it's essentially holding the country hostage. and you know, threats are not great. i just have to say this. we've been waiting on action from the house leadership for more than a year. for more than a year, by a 2-1 margin, bipartisan group of senators passed a comprehensive immigration reform package and the house, which promised to take it up, still hasn't. what have they been waiting for? and now they say they need more time? it's very clear do me that they have no intention of exhibiting leadership on this. and i think the president needs to act in the absence of leadership. it doesn't preclude congress from getting something done on comprehensive immigration reform. in fact it might provide the impetus for them to get their act together and lead and
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legislate and govern. something that the house has been unwilling to do under speaker boehner. >> well the american public it sounds like from the latest polls, do, are willing to give it some more time. and don't think that the president should yet resort to executive action. here's the latest poll. this is from "u.s.a. today." it shows that they asked respondents, 42% believe that the president should act this year. but 46% say that the president should wait until january. wait for the new congress to be seated. to see if they could move forward. your response? >> it's a very narrow margin and i think for the families that are affected, it is the right thing to do and it is the right time to do it. i think it's long overdue and i think trying to place blame in the absence of leadership, i think the president is doing the right thing. and i think this is going to be good for the country. it's not just good for these families. it's good for the economics of our country as well. and i think the sooner that we can address this issue, i think the sooner that congress
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realizes you no, they need to get on the ball and do something. the better. think it's a bold first step in the right direction and i think it's what our country needs. it's long overdue. >> let me show you another poll that suggests that americans don't necessarily believe -- agree with you. that the president should go it alone. this one is from "the wall street journal" newly released it said should the president take executive action on immigration, 48% disapprove. only 38% approve of doing that and 14% are still unsure. what does that tell you? >> well, again, it tells me that there's a difference of opinion in this country. i don't think necessarily the last several election cycles can tell you polling is not always very accurate. historically polling has shown that the vast majority of americans are in favor of doing something on immigration reform. because the status quo is not sustainable. >> to your point, they are in favor of doing something on immigration reform. but it sounds like they want congress to do something and they are not as comfortable with
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the president acting unilaterally. >> i will tell you, i've been in congress for a dozen years, 12 years i've been here. when i was first elected, i came to the hill and one of the things that i really wanted to work on was comprehensive immigration reform. for 12 long years we've been trying to accomplish this. so i don't think it's a matter of time. i just think that that argument is species. it's something that is really been worked on and we've looked at it for many, many years. it's overdue. and again, the president isn't doing, isn't legislating, he's simply using his legal authority to provide some relief and some accountability by the way. to immigrants that are in this country. and i think you know, prioritizing things like criminals, over the deportation of families is a good thing for this country. and i think that creating a system of accountability where people have to go through background checks and people have to pay taxes, is good for this country.
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so you know, these threats that all we need more time and, if not, we're going to throw another tantrum and we're going to you know, get our way by holding our breath and holding the country hostage, that's not helpful. that's not constructive, that's not proactive. it doesn't move our country in the direction that it needs to move. >> congressman linda sanchez, thanks so much for being with us this morning on "new day," we'll see what happens tonight. be sure to join cnn tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern for comprehensive coverage of the president's speech. over to chris. it is not over in buffalo. people are trapped, supplies are running short. efforts to rescue and clear are hamper, another three feet expected today. we have a live report from the snow zone. and bill cosby, he may not be facing legal action, but he's already taking hits professionally. there are new developments and we have them for you coming up.
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welcome back to "new day," here's a look at headlines. we're following breaking news, the suspected gunman who opened fire at florida state university's main library is dead. police say the gunman wounded three people before campus officers con fonted him and killed him in a shoot-out. one of the wounded is said to be in critical condition, another
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is listed as stable. we do not know yet of the condition of the third victim. we do know classes and exams today are canceled. world powers are gathering in vienna for a final round of nuclear talks with iran. expectations for a a comprehensive deal are low. western leaders put their chances at 50% at best. and say a breakthrough before the november 24th deadline appears to be highly unlikely. but they say they may be able to agree on the outline of a deal and work out an extension to iron out details later. another victory for supporters of same-sex marriage. a federal judge in montana overturned the state's ban. some still face legal challenges. the judge notes the decision goes against an amendment approved by the voters of montana, at least two counties started issuing marriage licenses immediately. and a passing to tell you of one of the most beloved voices of motown, jimmy ruffan has
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died. ♪ what becomes of the broken-hearted ♪ >> a favorite song. how can you forget the voice behind the '60s hit "what becomes of the broken-hearted" he passed away on monday. his storied career spanned half a century, including other great songs like "i've passed this way before" and "hold on to my love" he was 78 years old. quite a career as well overseas in europe, he lived there for a time in the '80s and '90s, passed away, sad to say. >> that's a beautiful song. >> it really is. >> the family love the man they love, but they've got the legacy. buffalo is back in the news, the distress and situation could get worse, there could be 30 inches of snow. that would be an extra 30, that would make eight and a half feet of snow. but the number that matters most
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is seven, that's how many people have died because of this storm at this point. rescue crews are scrambling to save people trapped on the roads and in their home. let's get to meteorologist jennifer gray live on the ground in buffalo. we're hearing it's still almost too difficult for the first responders to get where they need to be. what are you seeing on the ground, jennifer? >> yeah, it's exactly right. we almost couldn't make it to the live shot a couple of hours ago the snow was so heavy. visibility was down to zero. you couldn't see in front of your hood. so first responders are having a very difficult time getting to people and now with the additional snowfall that's expected, the fear is with the weight added on people's homes, roofs could possibly collapse. and so that's going to be the fear moving forward. we're at a staging area, we had those front-end loaders we were showing you yesterday morning that were putting the snow in the dump trucks and hauling it off, this is where they were set up. if you follow me over here you can see, this parking lot has been plowed, but over here, this
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hasn't. this is what many streets look like south of buffalo. and the snow even higher. buffalo's deadly monster storm isn't done yet. the lake-effect storm hammered southern parts of the city tuesday, dumping nearly six feet. the region now bracing for round two, expected to bring another two to three feet of snow by friday. an entire year's worth of snow in just days. >> this snowfall may break ought sorts of records. >> the city in a state of emergency and residents struggling to dig out from under walls of snow. >> we're closed in here, not an open area, where we can fling the snow everywhere. >> this man used an aerial drone to escape his snow-covered garage. capturing this video of an avalanche of snow left behind.
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>> driving bans in effect after stranded drivers were forced to abandon their snow-buried cars and trucks. >> officials say it could be days before the highways are cleared and are warning residents to be careful. >> stay home if you do have do go out, please exercise caucus. >> in the hardest-hit areas where snow is too deep for plows, crews have had to bring in front-end loaders and dump trucks to haul the snow out. the national guard out in full force to help clear the streets. while ems and firefighters are depending on volunteers with snowmobiles or venturing out on foot to rescue those stranded and in need. the storm now claiming seven lives, some from cardiac arrest shoveling, others simply trapped in the cold. and these are cars right here, and you see these all over the city, there's about 50 of them here in this parking lot. so, chris, it is going to be a
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while before they can get their cars back, most likely the end of the weekend. >> that's the least of their concerns, right now so many people have so many dire needs, the question is when will they get windows of opportunity to help. here's the crazy thing about the storm. some areas of the buffalo area only saw a few inches of snow while others just a few miles away got several feet. here's a picture of a guy trying to shovel his front walk. the snow is taller than he is. and this, remember, it hasn't been put there by a snowplow, because snowplows can't get through this street. it's incredible. let's get over to meteorologist indra petersons to explain why some of buffalo was spared and others were not. >> this is an historic event, some residents in the suburbs of buffalo seeing the amount of snowfall they would see in the entire year, all of that faug from this one snow event. you could be in a suburb of
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buffalo and have sunshine, clear skies above your head and a few miles away, they could literally be pounded with snow. snowfall rates of four to five inches per hour. look at the totals, a seven-mile difference between a place that saw three inches of one and one that saw over 60 inches, so everyone is saying what is going on? well lake-effect snow. we know that but the reason it's happening is actually because the lakes have not frozen yet. keep in mind the water temperature right over lake erie, about 45 degrees. about 40, 50 degrees, the air temperature in the 20s. a huge temperature difference, the cold air wants to sink. the warm air wants to rise. so they flip-flop right? pulls the moisture out of the lake, you get the snow all of that being carried to the end of the lake by the wind. so that's one factor. that temperature difference, the second one being the wind. you want the fetch of the lake and the wind. you want that phenomenon to go as far as it can. you want to go with the cold air as far as you can, the distance across the lake. so a small shift in the wind
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direction is going to change everything. look at the difference of the fetch over the lake with the southwesterly wind instead of a west-southwesterly, that's why some places are seeing the heavy amounts of snow right at the end. the wind shifts and everything starts dumping in a different region. this is a way to look at it you can see the blue lines, that's the wind, follow the lines at the end of lake erie, you can see the long line of heavy snowfall at the end. so there you go, that's what answers the big question, why are you seeing so much snow a few miles away. maybe at my house, nothing at all. guys? >> crazy. just incredible how that works and obviously so dangerous. we're going to be talking to the governor of new york about what they're going to do next. >> the question is, they don't have good options right now. and their hands are tied by the weather. mother nature always wins and they're going to have to hope they can hold out until they get windows of opportunity. another situation we're watching is of course what's going on in ferguson. the grand jury's decision on whether to charge officer darren
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wilson for michael brown's death could come down tomorrow. that is the latest word. the city of ferguson is on edge because of that, as are other places around the country. we'll take to you ferguson. more backlash against bill cosby. new projects cancel and old reruns of the cosby show yanked off the air. is his career over? ♪ turn around ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. in the country. we operate just like a city, and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal, generating electricity on-site,
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welcome back to your "new day," the grand jury in ferguson could hand up a ruling as soon as tomorrow. law enforcement officials tell cnn they expect prosecutors to present their final evidence friday with a decision expected shortly thereafter. that could change. but let's get to evan perez live in ferguson with more. evan that wouldn't be unusual to have a quick turn-around, but it wouldn't be unusual not to have one, either? >> that's right. chris, the grand jury will decide how long it's going to take to deliberate. these people have been living this case for a couple of months now. so they, the authorities here don't believe it will take that long. once a decision is made, they're not going to release the
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decision immediately. they're going to give law enforcement 48 hours' notice to get ready here for the streets of ferguson and also in st. louis where we expect protests to take place. and then once the decision is made, is announced on sunday, they also plan to release all the evidence that's been presented to the grand jury. now that's an unusual situation. because one of the debates that's happening behind the scenes, chris, is how to treat the witnesses who have provided testimony to this grand jury. whether or not to release the names of those people. because some people feel that they might be at risk, obviously some of them have given tv interviews and when they went to the grand jury, they said things that might be different from what they had said in the media. so that's something that everybody is talking about here. and they're trying to decide how to handle it. chris. >> also going to think about the grand jurors themsselves, for this to hold 48 hours after the decision has been made will be a
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tough test. thank you for the reporting. well bill cosby is in trouble. networks from nbc to netflix are backing away from the needian. is his career over? we'll bring you the latest developments. and breaking details on the shooting on the campus of florida state university. new details from officials, straight ahead. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! (all) awesome! i love logistics.
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welcome back to "new day," business seems to be crumbling around bill cosby as accusations build about the comedian's alleged unwanted sexual advances dating back decades. a new project with nbc -- squashed. reruns of "cosby show" in tv land off the schedule. a special on netflix scheduled for next week -- shelved. can his career survive? let's turn to senior media correspondent and legal analyst
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joey jackson. at some point, brian, do you think cosby is going to have to address these allegations? >> in 24 hours, netflix, nbc, tvland, these series of corporate relationships with cosby and his shows, all evaporated with one caveat, netflix only postponed that comedy special. maybe when, if and when all the talk about him dies down, maybe they will air it in the future. but this was really remarkable to see this domino effect happen. >> so joey, if he wants to resurrect his career, does he need to do some sort of big primetime sit-down confessional? and if he does that, is he in big legal trouble? >> it's interesting, alisyn, this is where public relations and public relations advisers are completely at odds with the attorneys. attorneys are going to tell you, alisyn, keep your mouth shut, allow it to blow over and allow the media to move on to something else that they can sink their teeth into. >> and that's what he's been doing. >> but here's the other problem,
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chris, from a legal perspective, you don't know if there are anybody, is there anyone else out there that we have to be concerned about? so therefore, say nothing and move on. if you do say something, though, chris, now that becomes a story and you get the psychoanalysts, were his eyes move moving to the let, were they moving to the right. could he be telling the truth? is he lying? so the lawyers are saying, just hush and it will blow over. the public relations people may be saying something entirely different. go what if he comes on and says,dy it? legally? >> legally speaking, we know there are various statute of limitations in various states, as it relates to new york if he said that, he'd be fine as far as miss bowman. statute of limitations there was none on rape as of 2006. the allegations stem back to '85. you have to worry about the other states and what their statute of limitations is in. if he's in that, then it's problematic. >> janice dickinson came out again on "entertainment tonight." i want to show awe little bit of what she said on "entertainment tonight."
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of course the lawyers had a response to that too. but let's listen to janice. >> the loss of innocence, that i suffered and these women out there suffer is why i'm sitting here today. and i don't care about what cosby or networks or anybody says, i am, you will hear me. i will not stop. i'm a woman, i am confident and i'm an american and it happened to me and that's my truth. >> well and of course the lawyers are responding, let me read the response from cosby's lawyers, janice dickinson's story accusing bill cosby of rape is a lie. the only story she gave to the media in her autobiography was that she refused to sleep with mr. cosby and he blew her off. now her new story is a fabricated lie. >> michaela, back on sunday, we heard from another cosby attorney, they said we're going to have no further comment. we're not going to talk about this. this newly aggressive response
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speaks volumes and i think it shows how far we are from bill cosby coming out to your point and actually commenting himself on these allegations. >> but in terms of business, because that's what we have to look at here, you said there's several aspects, there's the pr aspect and the legal matter. but in terms of business we have seen projects moving away and away. is there room for this to turn around for him, save for some sort of sit-down interview with an "oprah" or a diane sawyer. >> it's hard to imagine a big network like nbc or sony wanting to develop a program with him in a year or two. but i do think fans will continue to sell out his stand-up comedy performances. >> you do? >> i do. >> you don't think he's done after this? it's been a tidal wave now. >> these corporate relationships are one thing. it's hard for an nbc or netflix or tv land to stay in business. but i think he's got millions of fans, the ones blowing up my
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facebook and twitter pages saying the media is out to get him. you've always got the response from people wanting to defend him and support him. >> and the lawyers are going to say just that. it comes down to credibility. we always say this, chris you know this, there are some people who tell the truth, but very poorly, right? so it appears as though they're lying. and some people who are lying, but they're really telling the truth because they do so very well. >> the hardest thing, when we're talking about assault and abuse and you're talking about women who when we talk about domestic abuse, sexual assault. you talk about how victims feel revictimized when they're not believed. and when the media comes after them and says, well you should have done something more to protect yourself. or, you don't have an axe to grind. >> it's a great point michaela and this is what happens in court. we know rape is one thing to prove, where there's physical evidence, right? dna, that type thing. that's one thing. but there are also other ways to prove it such as not only the credibility of the victim
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themselves, but sometimes there's recent outcry evidence. for example, when something happens to you, michaela, what you do is you tell a friend, you tell a relative. you don't feel comfortable coming out and telling the police, but you tell someone and you bring that person into court. >> which we've seen with some of these people. >> can you think of a case where you've had, well you're not a lawyer, as a situation, can you think of a media situation other than like bob filner, where you've had this many people come out with stories that would be very difficult to coordinate and the person has survived scrutiny? >> i was thinking about that last night, and i can't. >> it's interesting the difference tweens words and actions. >> i would say when i talk about his fans coming to his defense, it reminds me a little bit of something like paula deen. there are stories like that where people become very pol polarizing and controversialized. and yet some fans stay with them. i would add another thought, we're talking about a 77-year-old man. we're thinking about his public relations strategy, his legal
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strategy. i'm not sure he is in the same way we are. >> do you think it's more about legacy? >> legacy, but also, he was, he was, he was at his peak in the 1980s, his show was reaching 50 million people, we're not in that era any more. >> when his personal publicist was calling me, how do i find the story you wrote about cosby? i thought to myself, we're not dealing with people who know exactly how the new media environment works. >> we'll have to leave it there, gentlemen, we could talk about this a lot more, thank you so much for your opinions and conversation. and folks at home tell us what you think. do you think that cosby can recover from all this? tweet us at "new day." you know how to reach us. it's interesting how we're still framing the question, can he recover? what about all these women? >> that's a good point. so this is one story we're going to keep following, but there's a lot of news this morning, so let's get right to it.
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moments of fear when an unidentified gunman opened fire. >> someone has a gun in the library. >> there's a gun in the library. >> the entire first floor is in chaos. >> the gunman fired a shot at the officers and they returned fire, killing the suspect. as buffalo tries to dig out from an avalanche of snow, even more is on the way. >> novell may break all sorts of records. >> there's so much snow, it's very hard to plow. >> our immigration system is broken. president obama plans to unavailable executive action on immigration. >> there's no question there's going to be a political confrontation with congress on this. >> this serious business. >> good morning, welcome back to new day, i'm alisyn camerota along with chris cuomo. we begin with breaking news -- the latest about a shooting at florida state university's main library. tallahassee police department says the threat is over after police confront a lone gunman who wounded three students.
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the police ordered him to put down his weapon, instead he fired, they returned fire, killing him. >> it mattered when this happened, so many students studying late in the night because it's final exam week. we have learned that campus does remain open, but the classes and exams have been canceled. let's get to cnn's susan candiotti for more. >> when one student said he was shot, another thought he was kidding, he wasn't. students hitting the books for exams, instead running for cover from a gunman. breaking overnight -- >> are you serious? oh my god, are you okay? >> moments of fear inside this florida state university library. one fsu student capturing it on cell phone video. >> this is the tallahassee police department, and the fsu police department. there has been a shooting in the library. stay where you are. >> it was just before 12:30 this morning. when an unidentified gunman opened fire. >> as you know, somebody has a
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gun. we have somebody that's been shot, call 911. >> one man seen lying on the floor, apparently shot in the leg as a librarian makes a frantic 911 call. fsu senior sarah evans shoots the heart-pounding video and describes chaotic scene. >> i saw one of the employees looking frantic, going crazy and that's when i thought something was pretty wrong. >> the campus on lockdown as police swarm the building. students warned to quote seek shelter immediately. stay away from doors and windows. and a text message from the university emergency alert system. photos flood twitter as the ordeal unfolds. showing police with assault rifles inside the library. eventually leading the students to safety. at least three people injured. and transported to the hospital. one in critical condition. the shooter? shot and killed. >> they gave them, gave the suspect commands. and the suspect did not comply
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with the commands. and actually shot at one of the officers. they returned fire and the subject was killed. >> after a nearly three-hour ordeal, university officials assuring the fsu community the situation is under control. classes have been canceled at fsu for the day. >> we're going to continue the investigation, it will take not only hours, but days to put all the pieces together. obviously everyone wants to know why and that those, that's the hard question that we're going to continue to investigate. and try to find those answers for everybody. >> about 300 students were in the library at the time. police calling the shooter a lone gunman. who is he? why it he did it? where the gun came from? how he got inside the library. plenty of questions today, chris. >> all right. susan, thank you very much. now earlier we spoke with fsu senior sarah evans, she was in the library when the shooting began. she started taking the video we saw in susan's piece.
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we asked her how she got word of what was happening. take a listen. so you're in the library, how do you get word that this is happening? >> i was actually right by the exit. i was just about do leave the library, and i just hear what i thought was a gunshot. but not as loud as i would expect. you know, still just waiting around until i saw one of the employees looking frantic, going crazy and that's when i thought something was pretty wrong. >> you're suppose to be told things as soon as possible. what was the notification, what did you hear from the school? what did they tell you to do? >> well as far as the event, you know i wish i would have been told a bit sooner to move away from the entrance. but as soon as the 911 call was made, we were signalled to go to the back of the library, head up the stairs. you know just get completely out of the way. and then we were notified that fsu pd and tallahassee pd were on the way to secure the sloeks. >> is it true that while you were taking the footage of what
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happened, you did come across somebody who was hurt? >> yeah. i mean i will never forget the look on his face, he yelled in the video -- i've been shot, there's a gun. and that's when everybody in the library freaked out. and i didn't believe it. i think i was laughing in the video because i was like, what? you know. you're just not really prepared for something like that. so he just looked so shocked and i didn't know what to do. i was like, oh, my gosh, are you okay? and we wanted to get him help. but he was wounded laying on the ground. that's when we really freaked out. >> were you able to get him help? do you know anything about what happened to him? >> yeah, they immediately rushed help. as far as i know, all the victims are recovering, which is great to hear because you know my heart goes out to them and all of their families. that's all that i really care about at this point. you know i'm happy to be home safe. but all i can think about is them right now. >> how is your head, how is your heart this morning? >> i mean i'm still a little bit shaky and i don't think it's this interview.
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it was a crazy experience, my friends are okay, we're all just a little bit shaken up about the whole thing. because you know you're just not really prepared for a situation like this. no matter how many times could you go through it in your head. but i've seen a lot of compassion and support from our student body already. and so i'm just pretty confident that we can all kind of come together and get through this as just a university together. >> it's great to hear. she held it together in a very hard situation as did many of the kids there. imagine seeing one of your classmates wind up being shot in a situation like that. alisyn? another top story to tell you about. dangerous weather pummelling areas of upstate new york. buffalo is forecast to get three more feet of snow today. that's on top of the historic snowfall this week that has already crippled parts of the city. literally. there have been seven weather-related deaths reported. rescue crews are scrambling to save people trapped on the roads and in their homes. meteorologist jennifer gray is live for us in buffalo. what's happening at this hour,
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jennifer? >> yeah, alisyn, it is serious, and luckily the snow has stopped where we are now. and it's basically south of hamburg, but can you see these front-load trucks are pushing awe all of the snow out of the way, so the big story today is going to be clean-up. because this is far from over. buffalo's deadly monster storm isn't done yet. the lake-effect storm hammered southern parts of the city tuesday. dumping nearly six feet. the region now bracing for round two. expected to bring another two to three feet of snow by friday. an entire year's worth of snow in just days. >> this snowfall may break all sorts of records. >> the city in a state of emergency. and residents struggling to dig out from under walls of snow. >> it's too much. it's just really a lot of snow here. we're closed in, it's not just an open area where we can fling the snow anywhere.
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>> trapped inside his west seneca home, james grimaldi used an aerial drone to escape his snow-covered garage. capturing this video of the avalanche of snow left behind. driving bans in effect as major roads throughout the area remain at a standstill. after stranded drivers were forced to abandon their snow-buried cars and trucks. officials say it could be days before the highways are cleared and are warning residents to be careful. >> stay home, if you do have to go out, please exercise caution. >> in the hardest-hit areas where snow is too deep for plows, crews have had to bring in front-end loaders and dump trucks to haul the snow out. the national guard out in full force to help clear the streets. while ems and firefighters are depending on volunteers with snowmobiles or venturing out on foot to rescue those stranded and in need. the storm claiming seven lives,
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some from cardiac arrests shoveling, others simply trapped in the cold. and the big concern today of course with that additional two to three feet possible south of here -- carbon monoxide is going to be a big concern as well as the extra weight on people's roofs. and just to put it in perspective, a lot of people have about 22,000 tons of snow on their driveway that they're trying to get out there and shovel. and it is cold. >> oh, my gosh. it's incredible. jennifer, thanks for that whole background. get inside, stay warm. we'll check back with you. let's discuss all of this. the clean-up efforts and latest details with new york governor andrew cuomo. good morning, governor. >> good morning, alisyn, nice to be with you. >> where do we find you this morning? >> in beautiful buffalo. amidst the snow as you just heard about. >> so really seems as though you know, this is an over-used word, but this was epic.
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this was a storm of epic proportions and even for buffalo, no stranger to snow, it seemed to have caught people off-guard, were you prepared for the storm? >> we were as prepared as you can be. but epic is the right word, alisyn. you know we're seeing more and more of these extreme weather events. and i think anyone who doesn't notice that is just blind to the reality. in this state of new york, we've had typhoons, hurricanes, floods, which we've never had before. buffalo is no stranger to snow, and they can handle snow. but this is probably going to break all records for snowfall in buffalo. which is saying something. and seven feet of snow is virtually unmanageable. the plows that we have can't even move seven feet of snow. as you said in your report, you need a different type of equipment, you need front-end loaders, everything has to be picked up and dumped.
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so it's, it's really a catastrophic situation in many ways. >> we understand that you're sending more equipment to the buffalo area. and 160 more snowplows, which may or may not be effective because there's too much snow for the snowplows. 15 front-end loaders, eight roadside snowblowers. do you have enough emergency equipment and teams to tackle this? >> we're, we're bringing equipment in from all across the state. buffalo is obviously up in the western tip. we're bringing equipment in from as far away as long island. we have the national guard called in. we have hundreds of national guard personnel. but you know, alisyn, some situations just by their very nature, by the circumstances are difficult to manage. and that's what we have here. you have vehicles stranded all over the roads. and then abandoned. to clear that road you now have to tow every vehicle and then plow. there are no keys in the
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vehicle, so that's difficult and it just compounds. you then have secondary problems. we're now going to have roof collapses. we're looking at another two to three feet of snow today. and then a warming trend on the weekend, which could lead to massive flooding. when all this snow starts to melt. so this comes in phases, we went through the first phase, we're sort of in the second phase now. expecting the snow again today. and then we'll have the melt over the weekend. so it's a challenging situation. >> it sure is governor and you talk about those abandoned cars on the freeway. should you have preventively closed the freeway when you heard this much snow was coming? >> well they did close the roads. and even that, there's no perfect way to do that. the threwwuway is the main east-west conduit. if you close the road too soon, you literally strand people at
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work and they can't get home, they can't get to their children, they can't get to their families. they actually closed the road earlier than they expected. but whichever way you go with that, you create a problem on the other end. and what happens is, some people have to get home, they still take to the roads. even though they're advised not to. we had everyone out of the passenger cars, we had some commercial traffic where you had truck drivers who chose to stay with their vehicles. but otherwise, everyone is safe and i think the police did a phenomenal job. making sure that no one got hurt or died out there on those roads. >> governor, seven people as you know, did die as a result of the storm. three of them had heart attacks or cardiac arrests because they were trying to shovel the snow. this is too much. for people to shovel, yet they don't want to be trapped inside their homes. what are you recommending people
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do today? >> well the health concerns are obviously very real. and that's, every citizen has to know their own health condition before they go out and try to move seven feet of snow. which is an almost impossible task by the way. some of the cardiac arrests cases, people were doing it with a shovel. even people with snowblowers had a situations of cardiac arrest. because it's also very cold. i've been telling people, take a deep breath, this is not going to be one or two days. even if you get irdriveway cleared right away, there's no place to go. we have a drivie ining ban in e. so stay home and take it easy. and let professionals help with the snow removal. if you have any question about your health and capacity. >> governor, the national weather service is predicting two or three more feet of snow
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where you're standing. we know you have your work cut out for you this morning. thanks for joining us and put a hat on. we appreciate you being here. >> i'm going to put a hat on and just as a matter of full disclosure, i am the smarter, ni nicer, funnier version of your co-host, alisyn. >> i do know that, governor. >> and alisyn, don't let him say anything mean about me when i got off the air. >> i can't help. that's generally the pattern i've noticed between you two. >> when i'm gone, when i'm gone, alisyn. >> i understand. >> governor always great to see you, thanks so much. it would have been nice to see a shovel in his hands, that's all i'm going to say. if you're up there, you might as well help it would have been nice to see a shovel in his hands, that's all i'm saying. let's look at headlines, sadly we begin with breaking news just in to cnn, i have to pass along to you that mike nichols, fake tv and film director has died. he had a nearly six decade--long
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career with classics "graduate" "working girl" he was one of few to win an emmy, a grammy, an oscar and a tony. nichols was also the husband of abc news diane sawyer. survived by three children, four grandchildren, mike nichols was 83 years old. some more breaking news, two naval ships have collided in the gulf of aden. t the two ships hit one another this morning. we're told no crew members were injured. only minor damage to the ships. the navy is now investigating what exactly went wrong there. we'll work that on and pass it along. officials are trying to figure out what prompted an iowa man to show up at the white house with an arsenal of weapons in his car. we're told rj capheim approached an officer telling him someone told him in iowa told him to
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drive to d.c. they found a shotgun and ammunition in that vehicle. the head of the cdc says the government's worst-case scenario for the spread of ebola won't happen. you'll recall back in september, health officials estimated that 1.4 million people could become infected without more help to fight it. but an international surge in medical aid has slowed the epidemic in liberia, one of three west african countries hardest hit. those are your headlines and sad news about mike nichols, really sad. what a tremendous career, tremendous legacy. >> absolutely. >> we'll talk about it more here on the show this morning. his reach was wide and vast in many different areas of the culture. a huge loss as a person not just as a professional. all right. meanwhile, will president obama's executive order on immigration kill whatever hope is left for any bipartisanship in washington? are we just even naive to ask this question? we'll get perspective from both sides of the aisle.
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course. he says he's going to accomplish what he needs to do by executive action. those words ring with very, very ugly intentions to congressional republicans. they say his political declaration of war. let's discuss with people from both sides of the aisle. we have shawn duffy, a republican from wisconsin, a member of the house budget committee that will be key. henry quelar, a democrat from texas member of the appropriations committee, that will also be key. let's look at the polls. first poll, this is where the american people are on this issue -- chance for legal status, 57%. be deported, 39%. congressman duffy, why isn't it as simple as that, putting the pressure on you all in congress to do something about this so the president does not have to? >> i think we should do something. i think the congress should act. i'm one who supports immigration reform in a step-by-step
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approach. this issue has been on the table and congress hasn't acted. we just had an historic house majority elected in a couple of weeks ago and we got control of the senate. so the american people, though i agree with your poll want immigration reform done. don't want it done by executive action. the president is creating arbitrary timelines, he said it over the summer. he moved it to september, moved it to after the election. the president should wait. give the new congress enough time, to work its will, see if we can come up with a bill. but if he goes this way, we're going to set the new congress off on the wrong foot. i think it will tear the country apart at the seams. and the president, all his actions are tearing the country apart. >> congressman quillar, i'll get to you in a second. but let me stay with you, senator duffy. that reeks of brinksmanship to me. what do you mean, give us some time?
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you've had years to do something. you've had more than enough time. the senate passed a bill. boehner won't even hold an up-down vote on this. you're dragging your feet and it's going to cost families a lot of pain, are you worried about that? >> i support immigration reform. >> you haven't done it. >> that's right, guess what, that's the prerogative of the house of representatives. i agree that we haven't worked. you think that an executive hasn't been angry at the congress? that goes back to our very founding. >> true. >> we have three co-equal branches of government. the house and senate are one of those co-equal branches. if the president doesn't agree with us, that doesn't mean that he now has the authority to quote act on his own. >> well he may have -- he may have the legal authority. it's become a little bit of a specious argument. >> but professor obama disagrees. he says he doesn't have the authority. he said he would have to be a king or an emperor to take this move. so even the president in prior statements agrees he doesn't have the authority to take this action. >> many legal experts say it's
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not about the law. but it could very well be bad politics. let's put up the other poll about how people feel about the president taking executive action. there it is, question is very simple. 38 approve. 48 disapprove. 14 not sure. no opinion, we can chalk that up to the disaffection they're feeling in d.c. so we come to you, representative quillar, with the people he needs to work with on the republican side of the aisle saying if you do this, all bets are off when he's had plenty of time to do something and hasn't gotten anything done. >> well you're right about both polls. people do support immigration reform. they would rather have the president work with the u.s. congress. representative duffy andky work together, we can do it together. we can do a bipartisan bill just like president ronald reagan and the democrats did in 1986. the issue is, you know we've been waiting since the time i've been in congress, our republican friends said hey, let's build a
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fence, we built a wall at the border, i didn't like it, but it was done. they said double the number of border patrol. we did it they said deport more people. president obama deported more people in four years than president bush did in eight years. so we did that. i prefer a bipartisan approach to immigration reform. but if the president acts, let's see what he puts there. i can support a lot of the things he's put in there. >> but if he does, you say you support the president doing it. even though if he does this, it may blow up any chance of you getting a bipartisan bill. are you getting hoisted on your own petard to summon an old phrase, where this is going to be used as a device to do something to the other side, but it's going to wind up hurting you even more? >> you know, the executive order, i prefer legislative action. bipartisan. but the executive order on immigration has been used since i believe 1956. dwight eisenhower used it. the last two out of the three republican presidents, ronald reagan, bush 1 used the
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executive order on immigration. george bush, the son, who i worked with closely when he was governor, supported immigration reform. so the executive action can be passed. the next president he or she can always change it if they want to do that. or congress, just like they did with ronald reagan, can always come back after an executive order and pass a bipartisan approach on immigration. i want to see a bipartisan approach. >> congressman duffy. you say the same thing. let's be clear, i'm not blaming you for the problem. it's not getting done, you have to answer for your brothers and sisters, they say if this happens, maybe there's a shutdown. that's in the wind. maybe we'll impeach him. why so extreme all the time in response to things that you admit are politics? >> first of all, it's not extreme for president to act outside the authority given to him as the executive and not come to the people's house. but then come to the people's house and say we want you to fund our executive action. i got to tell you why. if he asks for money, for the executive action, we in the house aren't going to give it to
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him. if he chooses to shut the government down because of that, that's his prerogative. >> he wouldn't choose to shut the government down, that would be your choice. >> we're not going to fund the executive action. what happens to the hispanic community? they're going to be coaxed out of the shadows with this executive action. this isn't a long-term solution for them, it could be overturned by another president, this could be overturned by the courts. then they've exposed themselves when they come out of the shadows to potential future deportation because they've exposed the fact that they're here without documentation. the best way to do it for the hispanic community is to do it right, in a bipartisan fashion, through the house and senate and the president which changes the law for the long run which helps people, gives them certainty as they move forward as potentially new legal status citizens. >> you would get the big amen from everybody if there were no history on this issue. you guys have failed to do that. these families hang in the balance and you know a lot of them are paying the price. >> but the president said this was a priority when he was
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elected. he two years of a democratic-controlled senate and house and he did nothing. he's had four years to do this executive action. he could have done it over the summer. this reeks of politics. the president waited until after the election because he knew the american people didn't agree with him on the executive action front. we have a new congress, we have new members, new senators, why would the president do this right now before the new congress is sworn in? give it time. let it breathe. let people talk about it. let's engage in the conversation. henry and i, i think could come up probably agree on 90% of what immigration reform should look like. give us the space to do it. but with this executive action, there's no space, he's going to blow the whole conversation up and not allow any room for bipartisanship. >> let's see if there's a date condition put on the executive order. that's up to the president's discretion as well. it doesn't have it take effect right now. it could give you the time and space, but it's obviously an incendiary act. we have to leave it there for now. the best sign i see for any progress is you're wearing the tie colors of the other party.
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so maybe that's the best thing we got going into it right now. we'll all be watching tonight. i appreciate the candor on the issue, thank you very much, congressmen. the big address is tonight. we have to hear what the president is going to say before this debate will continue. to tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern, here, comprehensive coverage. anderson cooper will be leading the way. we're following some breaking news this morning, he was the jack of all trades in the entertainment world, mike nichols has died. we will bring back brian stelter to talk about nichols' legacy on film, family and far beyond beyond. in this accident...
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the sudden passing of mike nichols legendary tv and film director, mike nichols career spanned many decades and many trades from the big screen to the broadway stage over six decades, credit him for classics like "the graduate," "who's afraid of virginia woolf" "working girl" and "the birdcage." we brought back senior media correspondent brian stelter to talk about it. when we talk about a man like mike nichols and a visionary, you can't just use one word to describe him he was so much more than just one thing. >> and to your point a few minutes ago, one of those rare winners of the egot, tomies and grammys and oscars -- tonys and grammys and oscars. this was announced by abc news president. because mike was married for so many years to diane sawyer and
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james wrote this in a memo to the staff. in a career that spanned over diction decades, mike created some of the most iconic works of film, television and theater. hitting all of those groups. this is to me even more sad. because when diane sawyer step down from abc news world news a couple of months ago, she was excited to have her evenings back to spend more time with her husband. >> that's such sad timing she just left abc so soon. let's talk about some of the films we all know. many people may not know he was behind. it starts with "the graduate." there's so many. "angels in america" "the birdcage" "charlie wilson's war." "the graduate" is such a part of americana film fabric. >> and a key win for him for oscar for best director. this put him on the map. >> he was a brilliant comedy
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duo, you saw it in everybody around him. he had brilliance around him. diane sawyer is as smart an individual as you'll ever be around. his daughter in law, rachel nichols, part of the cnn family, this is a loss for her as well. she's married to mike's son obviously. and he valued genius. and you came out of him in everything you did. >> that was a point, i was reading in "the new york times," a piece about him from ten years ago, he wasn't just smart, he brought intelligence to those around him. that's quintessential directing, making your actors, making the folks around you better. that's what he was doing in so many of the these films. i think of "primary colors" "closer" from ten years ago "angels in america" on hbo. and he was working until recently on a new project. >> this hbo project, "master class" terrence mcnally's tone in award-winning play. >> it was not too far along in
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production, obviously hbo will have to figure out what to do. that's something he was working on this fall. >> such an interesting time when we were looking at the primetime address from the president tonight on the topic of immigration and we're looking at the story of an immigrant. he was german-born, came here at seven and had to learn english as a second language and yet has become one of the most iconic film directors in american history. >> and was so consistent, working straight through his 80s. apparently it was cardiac arrest last night at the age of 83. he had had health problems over the years, but he kept working well into his 70s and 80s and even with this new project. that's something that we don't often see. there's only a small group of american directors we can point to that we can say that about. >> i'm looking forward to going home and maybe looking at some of those nichols and may stand-up, comedy specials they did. three or four albums. they were very funny together.
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here's some of the video right here. he's known for his humor. >> i'm interested in the $65 funeral. >> was that for yourself? >> no. >> for another? may i ask -- where did you catch that ad? >> "tv guide." >> he had great you know, straight and dry delivery. he was so funny that would keep you quiet funny. you didn't want to take up any opportunity to mess up what he would say which would be smarter and funnier than anything anybody else could say. >> "the birdcage" i think was the funniest movie of all time. you allow for all of those moments to happen so brilliantly on the screen. >> also "angels in america" to take on controversial issues. there was no area he couldn't go into using his intelligence and
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humanity and make it better. >> i was already on twitter sharing clips from "the graduate" just now. there are so many things that people are going 0 to watch and rewatch. >> brian stelter, thank you so much for helping us remember this great man. we're following more breaking news -- the suspected gunman who opened fire at florida state university's main library is dead. police say the gunman wounded three people, students, before campus officers confronted and killed him in a shoot-out. one of the wounded is said to be in critical condition. another is stable. we have a bit of an update on the condition of the third. it was the third person was injured with a graze wound of some sort and has been released. we do know that classes and exams today are canceled at fsu. 11th-hour negotiations are beginning in vienna over iran's nuclear program. expectations for a kpree hencome
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this through? let's talk to david seamus, the white house political director. good morning, david. >> alisyn, good morning. >> we understand the president tonight will announce plans for executive action that will protect four to five million illegal immigrants or undocumented workers from deportation. what other details can you give us about what the president is going to say tonight? >> so alisyn, obviously i'm not going to get out ahead of the full scope of what the president is going to talk to. but it's important to put this in the right context, this is a first step that the president is going to talk that kick-starts this final debate about fixing the immigration system. it's going to have multiple components. a border security piece. a prioritization for interior enforcement. and the piece that you alluded to in terms of the people who are here in this country illegally. and what the requirements will be for them to get right by the law and be accountable. and so it's not right to look at this as simply one piece of the
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puzzle. it's comprehensive, as much as the president can do within his existing authority. but it's a first step and then it's upon congress to finish the job and go further. >> see, david, what's curious about what the president is doing with executive action. is it is the opposite of what he said in 2011, when he said that he could not act without congressional authority. let me remind you of his thoughts back then. >> there are enough laws on the books, by congress, that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system. that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates, would not conform with my appropriate role as president. >> david, he didn't think it was his appropriate role as president back then. what's changed? >> and you know what, he was right then and he's right now. it is not appropriate for the president to ignore congressional mandates.
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it's not appropriate for the president by fiat to say that he can do every single thing that was in the comprehensive immigration reform bill that was passed by a bipartisan majority in the senate 512 days ago. what you're going to hear tonight are very limited actions, fully within his existing authority, similar to those types of actions that have been taken by every single president, democrat and republican, since dwight eisenhower. so the what you heard him say then is completely consistent with what you'll hear said tonight. and once again, alisyn, the burden is going to be on congress now, to follow on this first step and after a year and a half of sitting on a bill that would fix immigration, to finally get to work and act. >> because republicans do not think that he's being consistent. they say what he's doing tonight is passing, protecting these four to five million immigrants by fiat.
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here's senator kelly ayotte on this very topic. listen. >> i would hope that the president would follow his own advice from 2011, where he was asked about this very issue and he said, that's not how our democracy functions, it's now not how our constitution was written. it was written so congress should be weighing in on this issue and we're stronger when that happens. >> we understand that congress has not moved with alackrity on this issue. >> once again, alisyn. senator ayotte, respectfully to her as a member of the united states senate. did their job and for 511 days, the house hasn't done its job. and again, let's be precise about what the president said in 2011 about ignoring congressional mandates, that's not what this is about. this is about a president saying there are certain things that he can do, under his authority, to take a first step to make things better. to bring some accountability to
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the system. because at the end of the day, alisyn, what you have here is something that everybody agrees upon. democrat, republican, and independent. in the vast majority of the american people, that immigration is broken. it's time to act, and the president tonight is going to lay out his vision and his first steps to get this done. >> david, part of the problem is that republicans say that if they are cut out of this process now, since the mid-terms, where they control congress, they say that there will be retaliation. here is senator ted cruz, what he's threatening. he says if the president announces executive amnesty, the new senate majority lead another takes over in january should announce that the 114th congress will not confirm a single nominee, executive or judicial outside of vital national security positions, so long as the illegal amnesty persists. they are threatening to block the president. >> so alisyn, it's, i don't think there's one workplace in america including the one that
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you work at, where someone can get in and say that they're angry with a co-worker, therefore, that they're not going to do their job for the rest of the year or for two years. look, this is a tough issue. what you're going to hear the president do tonight and say tonight is that there are certain steps that he can take, to begin this process. it's our hope that everybody across the aisle can say, okay, look, we may agree or disagree with different pieces of this. but our responsibility is not to argue. our responsibility is not to say we're in the going to work on anything. our responsibility is to work. and do the job, that's our expectation, alisyn. >> david simus, thanks so much for the preview, we'll be watching the president with interest tonight. >> great to see you. banks behaving badly. how powerful have some institutions gotten? the shocking findings of a senate probe in money time
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are you down with crestor? ask your doctor about crestor. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com breaking news, florida state university under attack. gunman opens fire at the school's main library, several people injured, before the gunman is killed by police. we're live with students who were in the path and the latest on who did it and why. tonight president obama unveils his plan to shield millions of illegal immigrants from deportation, setting up a major clash with republicans. what do the polls say americans want? we'll tell you. bracing for more. upstate new york is buried under
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six feet of snow. the historic snowstorm not done yet. people trapped in their homes could see another three feet fall as freezing temperatures hold their grip across the country. any relief? sight? >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning, welcome to "new day." it's thursday, november 20th, 8:00 in the east. chris cuomo and alisyn camerota here with breaking news. tallahassee police give the all clear after a gunman on the campus of florida state university was killed but not before wounding three students. >> this happened as hundreds of students were studying late into the night for final exams and we've learned the camp success open today but all classes and exams have been canceled. >> reporter: breaking overnight. >> are you serious? oh my god, are you okay?
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>> reporter: moments of fear inside this florida state university library. an fsu student captures it on cellphone video. >> this is the tallahassee police department and fsu police department. there has been a shooting in the library. stay where you are. >> reporter: just before 12:30 this morning an unidentified gunman opens fire in a crowded library. >> if you know of somebody who has a gun or if you have is be who has been shot call 191. >> reporter: one man is seen lying on the floor apparently shot in the leg as the librarian makes the 911 cool. senior sarah evans shot the video and describes a chaotic screen. >> i saw an employee going crazy, frantic and i thought something was pretty wrong. >> reporter: the campus on lockdown as police swarm the building. students warned to seek shelter immediately, stay away from doors and windows.
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it showed police with assault rifles inside the library eventually leading the students to safety. three people are injured and transported to the hospital, one in critical condition. the shooter, shot and killed, in front of the library. >> they gave the suspect commands and the suspect did not comply with the command and actually shot at one of the officers. they returned fire and the subject was killed. >> reporter: after a nearly three-hour ordeal, university officials assured the fsu community the situation -- >> nick, if you can hear me, have officials talked about who the gunman is? what do we know about the identity of the gunman? >> reporter: so many questions left unanswered, principally, why someone would do this and who this person was. they haven't identified who the shooter was, not mentioned whether or not he was a student on campus. behind me, investigators are continuing to canvas this area
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where the shooting happened at florida state's library. they say there's no longer a threat to the public but those students that we spoke to that were witness to the shooting described the scene of about 30 to 45 minutes of pure havoc and chaos. you mentioned questions about that gunman, we're hoping to get those answers sometime in a press conference this afternoon. tallahassee police department is slated to have a news conference at 3:00 p.m. eastern, just a few hours from now. alisyn? >> of course, every time there's an incident everyone wants to know why and generally that one question is the answer question never find. nick valencia, thanks for the update. >> it's critical information beyond curiosity. it goes to the continuing threat that may be there. they say there is none and that's great but who it was, were they a student, because they were in front of the library, could they not get in. these are concerns to figure out going forward. >> how to stop other incidents like this. generally when the xwnman is dead it's particularly impossible. >> the timing of it, so late at
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night when students were there, studying, cramming for exams. another situation for you, republicans have drawn a line in the sand in washington, the president is about to jump right over it. tonight he will announce that he's moving forward on immigration reform himself, by executive order. that means without congress. republicans say they will retaliate if he does that, and in a big way. cnn's michelle kosinski live at the white house. we had congressmen on saying give us more time. are you hearing anything about timing of this executive order, will it go into effect immediately or is that one of the gray areas we'll have to see? >> reporter: it's likely to take some period of time to implement. that's exactly what happened in 2012 when the president allowed some leeway for people who were brought here as children but they're not giving an exact time line. what we know is that this executive action will be momentous. it's going to affect at least 3 million people, possibly as many as 5 million, and it the detailf
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course haven't been unveiled yet. the president is getting pushback from both sides as details leak out. they feel his acting alone doesn't go far enough, there are some, and then republicans who think it goes way too far. the president now ready to change the landscape for millions of undocumented immigrants in this country, and announcing his impending announcement on facebook. >> so what i'm going to be laying out is the things that i can do with my lawful authority as president to make the system work better, even as i continue to work with congress and encourage them to get a bipartisan, comprehensive bill that can solve the entire problem. >> reporter: what his plan will do, according to sources, is not a path to citizenship but temporary renewable relief in the form of permission to stay without being deported, and permission to work. expected to include parents of children who are american citizens or have legal status, so long as those parents have been in this country at least
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five years. also, it will likely expand those same allowances granted by the president in 2012 to people brought here illegally as children, known as dreamers, but, sources say, it is not expected to include parents of those dreamers, leaving some already to criticize it for not protecting families enough. on the other side, republicans furious. >> we can announce that we're prepared to cut off any funding that would implement or enforce is unconstitutional act. >> if he goes through with this and sticks a finger in the eye of the american people with no thought about it other than, this is what i want to do, and i'm going to do it, then i think he jeopardizes long-term the democrats ever to get back in power again in washington, d.c. >> reporter: according to several recent polls, a majority of americans would rather see immigrants given a chance at legality than be deported, though a "usa today" poll shows slightly more people want the
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president to wait for congress to vote on immigration reform than to act alone now. so we have heard republicans threatening from lawsuits to shutting down the government, even impeachment but the white house blames republicans in congress for failing to act and the white house says it feels confident this executive action has a strong basis in law. chris? >> michelle, thank you very much. of course we'll have to hear it for ourselves tonight and then the debate will continue, that happens here tonight 8:00 on cnn, complete coverage, anderson cooper will lead us off for it, you'll get to decide for yourself after that. alisyn? >> we're joined by someone no stranger to fighting over legislation, tony blair, former british prime minister of course, currently in middle east quartet representative. last night honored with the save the children global legacy award for his work in africa. welcome. >> thank you. >> great to have you on "new day." >> it's very good of you to have me. >> what do you think about the battle royale that is brewing in
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washington, d.c., because the president is threatening tonight to go it alone with executive action outside of the bounds of congress and that is not sitting well with congress. >> i think i've got enough problems without dealing with your political problems. by the way, in the uk right now, the biggest single issue is probably immigration, go to france, biggest issue, immigration, go to germany, biggest issue, immigration. it's a tough question because you want to legitimize people who have been in your country for a long time, on the other hand you want rules and controls because there's a limit. so it is a really tough issue. >> what is the answer to it? >> well, i think, i mean when i was dealing with it, i had this one mantra and this has nothing to do with the president tonight and that's an issue for you. i always say you can have rules but not prejudice. >> how do you deal with it from a leadership perspective? the parliamentary system there's more overtness to the often
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hostility there, they'll get up and shout at you as you present what's going on. this is this faux politeness when the president speaks here. in terms of how you deal with the parties when they are hostile to you and often in your case more than two parties, what did you learn in your time as prime minister? >> on the really difficult decisions, your responsibility is to do what you think is right, and you can't, you're not going to please people. when you decide, you divide, so the moment you put the decision in front of people, there are going to be people attacking it. >> how do you get them to work when they say they won't? >> that's really tough. look, you've got to try and do what you can to separate those who won't work with you, whatever you do, and those people who might be prepared to work with you, but then you've also got to take it out to public opinion, but an issue like immigration is a very raw emotional issue for people, and by the way, these decisions are difficult. they're difficult either way and
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i sympathize with the president and, well, anyway, that's to say that's a matter for him and you guys and i don't have a vote in that. >> it's interesting you bring up what's going on around the world. it's interesting, i wonder how when you are in a position of leadership you cut through the noise, because there is so much of it, especially if you look at what's going on here in america, and you've dealt with this as well, as a leader, getting very quiet, trusting your gut, and leading without weighing, you know, letting either side sway you. >> right, and i think it's more difficult today because social media multiplies conventional media and the result of it, you're taking decisions with a barrage of noise. >> sure. >> a leader europe n europe said i had 80,000 people on twitter say this, maybe i have to go that way. i was saying to him, what does that mean? does it mean that's 80,000 representing 18,000 or represent 8 million? it's hard to work this out. so in the end, you know, i came to power after losing four
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elections, my party had lost four elections and i wanted to please all of the people all of the people. by the time i was through the responsibility ultimately is to do what you think is right on the big issue answer then the people can judge you and like it or not. >> another complicated issue we want to you weigh in on is what's going on in israel, all of the violence in jerusalem and obviously beyond. as a world leader, where do you start? this is such an intractable problem. >> it is, and it was an horrific crime, the attack in the synagogue, disgusting and appalling thing to do. first you have to stabilize the situation, try and get some calm, the absence of provocative actions on both sides. where there's a vacuum in the middle east peace process, this is what you get. i hope in the near future we will have a relaunch of some form of political dialogue which brings the parties into negotiation with each other and then you've got to change facts on the ground. we've got gaza, been through the
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terrible situation there, jerusalem, which is tricky, west bank, we need to start moving the economy, make sure the security corporation is in place and try and improve people's lives a little. >> do you believe that israel should relax some of the restrictions on gaza to allow for more commerce and freedom of movement? i know there's two different sides to that issue but what is your thought? >> they should, provide question put in place the right mechanisms that give security protection, the material coming in, which i think we can, but it's very important for people in gaza, thousands of families whose homes have been destroyed and they need housing, but you've got a big problem there, where you have hamas in charge of gaza and you know, they still have not come to terms with the fact that the state of israel exists and is going to carry on existing. >> do you think it's more religious now than ever before and if so, should there be religious leaders more involved on both sides? >> it's a good question. there isn't a religious dimensi.
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talking about the holy sites in jerusalem you need religious leaders involved and coming together saying we've all got the right to worship here so let's do it in a respectful way. >> i was going to say, given your tremendous honor for your work in africa, obviously africa in many factions has been making its way into our headlines stateside, both with the battle dwe against ebola and the situation with boca haram and the plight of those children. there are so many things we could ask you for your assessment on, but what is needed in some of these areas? for example, when you look at a situation with boca haram, there's almost, it seems that the military is helpless, the leaders are not providing any insight on how they can stop the destruction and what they're doing to these children inville annuals. what is your sense? >> my sense is that you need to operate almost at two levels. you've got boca haram in nigeria but al shabab in somalia, you've
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got isis in syria and iraq, you get al nusra in syria, you've got these groups all over the world, frankly. it's a global problem. you have it in the far east, you have it in central asia. so i think you have to do two things. you have to be prepared to fight them when they are committing these atrocities and destroying people's lives, but we also, this is something my foundation, someone about africa, the other is about interfaith relationships and how you counter religious extremism. in northern nigeria, places like pakistan you have millions of young children educated in madrasas, formally and informally to the world. 10, 15 years later you shouldn't be surprised if some turn into extremists. one thing we have to put on the agenda locally, all education systems, we have responsibilities on the environment, there should be a responsibility on governments to
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ensure that you promote relimbious tolerance and root out relingious prejudice and this should be a factor in international relationships. i'd like to see the international forums and governments put this on the table and say come on, you know, there's no -- we can take all these security measures and we'll have to probably for a generation or more, but if you are educating young people to a warped view of the world you're not teaching them science and technology, just teaching them one view of religion, you're going to have a problem. >> tell us about this event last night where you were honored by save the children. >> this is a great thing about really about the work we've done in africa over the past few years and also i've just come back from the ebola countries in west africa, i was there last week, where we're slowly getting on top of it, it's still a crisis situation and still a lot of urgency and speed necessary but apart from that, there's a bigger part from that, there's lots of african countries making progress and we should celebrate that as well as focus on the
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crisis. >> it's good to know. great message to end on. >> thank you. >> prime minister tony blair, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> well done, sir, for your work around the world. appreciate it and great to have you on the set. back to what's happening here at home in buffalo, as you know, they've had an historic amount of snow and now they're bracing for 30 inches more. two and a half feet are coming their way. people are trapped in their homes. it is hard for rescuers and first responders to get there already. let's get to the ground, meteorologist jennifer gray. jennifer, what do you see there now and what is expected to come? >> reporter: chris, right now we're getting some blowing snow. we have blue skies over us, blizzard-like conditions when we first came in early this morning and we're at the staging area. you can see these trucks that are moving out, they're continuing to haul off all of the snow. they already moved more than 5,000 tons to a different location because there's nowhere to put it. each's cars are completely buried under the snow. we could get an additional two
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to three feet mainly south of where we are. we could pick up where we are south of buffalo a little later today. we've been talking about all this snow, we're setting records, this is more than buffalo has ever seen, but the story is much bigger than that, because we are talking about people that have basically been trapped inside their homes because they can't get out. they can't clear the snow off of their driveway in time. you start worrying about people not getting the medical care they need, prescriptions, things like that. lot of the emergency crews haven't been able to get to people because a lot of the streets are not plowed, because you can't get to them, and the snow has been coming down at such an incredible rate it's been difficult for crews to get there. hopefully in the next day or two. we know temperature also warm up by friday and even more so on the weekend, but it's far from over, chris. >> absolutely, and you're making the right point, even though you're a meteorologist, it's not just about the weather, it's about its impact on the people. we'll check back in with you, jennifer. stay as warm as you can. >> reporter: look at the pictures from the live shot, incredible.
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president obama set to overhaul the u.s. immigration system, big changes that could allow millions living here illegally to stay. we'll hear what two republicans have to stay. crippling costs for college, is it worth it or is it just about the experience? there's a new cnn film that says maybe you're not getting your money's worth. the director of "ivory tower" will tell us shocking truths he says he uncovered, straight ahead.
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and tonight he says he's going to make good on that promise, announcing sweeping changes that he will enact on his own by executive order. this is making republicans furious. they are calling that move everything from ill-advised to illegal and they promise political payback. how did we get into this situation and how do we get out of it? raul labrador from idaho and ms. ana navarro, cnn political commentator and republican strategist. good to have you both. representative, let me start with you. why are we in this situation? why is this necessary? why couldn't the republicans just go to the president and say, leave us alone, we'll do something now. we'll get it done. why are we here? >> we have said that to the president. chris, your introduction was false. >> how? >> the president has been saying for years that he cannot do this action that he's going to do today. for the last three years he has
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been telling the american people he doesn't have the authority. was he lying then or is he lying today, when he's saying he had the authority to do that. >> first of all lying isn't the right word. you may be saying he got it wrong. >> no, no, he's been saying for three years he didn't have the authority to do this. >> he didn't have the authority -- >> -- political ex-peend yepedi. as soon as we go to an election, we've gone to him and told him we could do immigration reform. i worked for a long time to get immigration reform done and he continued to work against us here in the house so it's not true to say that he's been saying that he's going to do this and it's not true that congress has not acted, because we have acted in the house. we have passed immigration bills in the house that he has been unwilling to work with us on. >> you won't have a vote in a bill that the senate passed over 500 days ago. the point the president said in terms of lying or not, there is
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logical consistency to his position about his authority with executive actions. he does not have the authority to overrule congressional manda mandate. there is no congressional mandate because you won't pass a bill. >> there is a congressional mandate. we said no to the senate bill, chris. >> it's not negating something that you did, because you did nothing. you understand? >> the law says, no, we have done something. the law says that he needs to enforce the law. the law says if somebody's here illegally, you must be deported. the law says there's a process to become a legal resident of the united states and he's negating all of those things. when the president is at his lowest authority is when the law says something and we have refused to change the law in the way that he wants to change it. we tried to change the law. we passed high-tech immigration legislation. we passed other immigration bills, and harry reid in the
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senate and the president in the white house refused to work with us on any of those bills. so it's not true that we haven't acted and it's not true that we have not told the american people what we are willing to do on immigration reform. >> i take your points, congressman. ana, how do you see this situation in terms of why nothing has been done by many people's estimations of the problems that we're now degree wit dealing with. >> because everything is political. frankly the president has been making promises on immigration since he was candidate barack obama in 2007. this last time he was waiting until after the election. but i say the same exact thing about my party, the republican party, we have not acted also because of politics. as raul knows, it wasn't too long ago when the republicans in congress brought out standards, immigration standards with the hope that they were going to be able to come up with a comprehensive solution, and that ended up in nothing.
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they could not get the standards passed to get a comprehensive bill passed. raul is right, that there have been pieces passed but there has not been a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform, which is what we need to address a complex problem like this. why didn't the republicans do it? because there were a lot of republicans that were facing hard primaries, so politics has gotten in the way of policy for both parties and it's been used as a wedge issue, and enough is enough. there are so many people hurting out there, and look, with or without this executive action, we still have a broken immigration system, and really, you know, folks need to get together and work on it, move on. i understand that republicans are angry. there is no legislature that likes to have their power usurped by the executive. i get that. but the problem is still there. and we owe it to this country to fix what is a longstanding problem that needs to be addressed, which is a broken immigration system that does not
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get solved by this temporary mandate. >> congressman, let me ask you this. if he does what we believe he's going to do tonight with his executive order, right, you're going to have to figure out how you respond. >> yes. >> there's a lot of anger and outrage and politically, maybe much of it is justified on the part of your party. but talk about shutdowns and we're going to sue and we're not going to fund this. do you think that's going to get you where you want to be or do you think you're better off passing your own bill and making the order infectule? >> we should leave all the cards on the table, all of the above, do whatever is necessary to make sure this president and no future president does something like this, which i think is unprecedented but at the same time i do believe we need to do immigration reform. ana and i agree on this, that we have a broken immigration system. as you know, chris, i was an immigration lawyer for 15 years before i came to congress. i know the depth of the immigration system, i know how bad it is. i know where we can fix it, but
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the difference is that we can't just put a band ate on it. the senate bill did something that was the same thing as the reagan bill, it granted amnesty today without really fixing our border problems. we need to fix the border problems that we have today. we need to fix the interior enforcement problems that we have today. we have a guest worker program that doesn't work. we need to fix that. we need to do all those things so when we fix the immigration system, and we do whatever we need to do with the 11 million people that are here, we don't have to have this discussion again ten years from now. and that's the difference between the president's approach and my approach. in fact, i was trying to do that when i was in the house, when i was working in the house on a bipartisan bill and we started to get to a resolution of what republicans and democrats could do in the house. the white house called the democrats and said stop working with the republicans, because you're undermining the senate bill. the president has only wanted to pass the senate bill, and then when he tells the american people that we haven't been
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willing to act, he's unwilling to tell the truth, which is that he has undermined and sabotaged every effort that we have made in the house to pass immigration reform. >> let's see what he says tonight and continue the debate from there. certainly it's one that's worth having and has not been had enough because it hasn't led to any action. i appreciate you, congressman raul labrador, being on with us, very much and ana, you're family, always great to have you here. help us find a solution. is college worth the cost? more and more graduates are spending more and more time hunting for jobs and trying to pay higher and higher student loan debt. we'll take a deeper look at that with the director of cnn's new film "ivory tower." save your coffee from the artificial stuff. switch to truvia. great tasting, zero-calorie sweetness from the stevia leaf.
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here you go with the five things you need to know for your "new day." three students are recovering after being wounded in a shooting at a florida state university's main library. campus officers shot and killed the suspected gunman after he fired at them. president obama is set to unveil his plan for taking executive action on immigration. he says he's waited long enough for congress but republicans say
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well tonight cnn is taking a look at higher education, a new film "ivory tower" with students in the u.s. facing an astounding $1 trillion of debt, director andrew rossi breaks down whether college is worth the sky-rocketing costs. take a look. >> there's going to be a class, one way or another, there's going to be a crisis. it gets to the point where the price of a degree is so high that people just don't want to pay for it anymore. this is not what most colleges talk about, they want to pretend the education is something
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that's non-financial, it's an end in itself. it's noble ideals but don't make sense when people are taking on $100,000, $200,000 of student debt. >> are college and universities giving students the skills and opportunity to land themselves a job or do we need to change our approach? andrew rossi, the director himself, is here. what an interesting proposition you put up. is it worth the risk. i think the trillion-dollar is such an unfathomable amount for people to think about. >> it's true. one t day is the moment in 2011 where student loan debt in the united states exceeded $1 trillion. we're about $1.2 trillion now. i think what we see in the film, tuition rates are rising since 1978 more than 1,000%, greater than the rising cost of health care, housing and food and simultaneously, students are taking on more debt, in the last year graduates had on average $33,000 when they graduated in
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debt and all together there's a sort of toxic mix of people going to school and hoping that they'll be able to sort of get the golden ticket. >> that's the thing. we know that if you have a college education, you're ultimately going to make a higher salary than your counterparts, but if you're staring as a family down the barrel, i met a usc grad, came out as a graduate with $100,000 in debt, you're starting your life out like that. it's a huge proposition for families to consider. >> and those numbers like $100,000 are on the far end of the spectrum. >> sure, fair enough. >> the wage premium you mentioned is very real it's $1 million more if you graduate with a b.a. versus just having a high school glow ma. however, there are many that don't graduate, they don't complete in four or six years in public universities that number is about -- >> and still have the debt looming. >> that's right, 44%, and they
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still have the debt. >> you in the film explore because a good documentaran does, see a problem, try to find a solution. in it you look at the possible solutions. there are some universities around the country that are looking at other options. tell us about at least one of those. >> sure. well certainly in california, we see governor jerry brown being really concerned about the rise in costs and looking to technology. the massive open online courses which in 2012 were heraldeds at the solution. >> right, the promise. >> exactly. technology is still part of the future, with he see that playing out in the flipped classroom where students are able to watch a lecture at home and go into the classroom and have face-to-face interaction. one of the problems was an experiment that was done at san jose state university, that's one that we feature in the film where students didn't have any kind of faculty guiding them, and were taking remedial courses online, and those had really
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very troubling pass rates. >> you also point out coopers union which traditionally offered tuition-free education for something like 150 years and is a sign of the time, they are now charging tuition. >> unfortunately, cooper union is the ultimate expression of this problem, that school took out $175 million loan to build a new engineering building and this is a school that has 1,000 students and supposed to be free. so they really should not have gone into that debt. as a result after 150 years of being free they're now charging >> there you go, the schools may be playing keeping up with the joneses trying to track more students and getting into financial challenges paying for the perks. this is a great conversation being had around dinner tables. "ivory tower" premieres tonight at 9:00 on cnn. be sure to tune in if you have college-aged students or students headed there in the future. andrew, great work, we appreciate it. chris? alisyn, where are you? i can't see but >> i'm in the green room.
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i only know this stuff because someone took the time to tell me. just because i know and you don't know, it doesn't mean i'm better than you. it just means i'm different from you, in a way that's better. [ laughter ] >> that was actor and comedian russell brand in his new standup special which premieres on epix friday november 28th. he's nope for being an all-around social commentator provacateur and ladies men. here he is now getting on the role of children's author. people think russell brand they don't think children's authors. >> why are we upsetting chris?
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>> i know why i was put over here, nobody put baby in the corner. they won't let me anywhere near the man. may i come closer, sir? i promise i won't do any of the things to you that have been done before we came on camera. >> 2014. >> i have a kid reading the book, russell. >> one person who should be near to us. >> thanks for letting me back in. >> thank you, we can be here together. >> you have a stack of books on your lap. >> that's about i me, how we could be a nice society speaking to some of the finest minds. >> i see the word love going backward in revolution it's strong. >> it's based on anger, fear or hatred which a man called robert lanter, he postulates how consciousness emerged from matter so consciousness could have preceded matter. >> you're staring at his chest. >> you find noah says we live
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with homospecies and theization is the blink of the eye and this is a children's, "all about fox." sublime consciousness how sublime consciousness can be accessed by children. >> it's a take on the pied paper? >> yes. she's enjoying the book because she feels it's inculcating with important information. >> it's allegory for kids and she feels she's getting adult words of a good kind. >> why did you want to write a children's book? >> the pied piper is a disruptive force. when the rats come into hamlin it means dirty and disruption entered into the world. pied piper with as a force for order and reason but the pipe when the character plays a musical instrument, whether it's
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orpheus in greek mythology or krishna in hindu, mind all material information there is a sublime divine realm. we know this from quantum physics, all of the stuff we see emerges from a word harder for us to know with our material senses. the piper demonstrates this. >> who would have guessed that russell brand's draw on the show would have a discussion of the existential and metaphysics, these two are talking about you like a piece of cheese before you came on here. >> no, never dirty. never bad cheese. >> no, sir. >> can we talk about you have all of this in the book, this is not an exaggeration of what you talk about but then it is dashed with liberal doses of potty humor, and you're the only person i've ever been able to see get away with that. >> it it detonates new territories for the mind. just before we came on air you
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used the phrase doesn't matter what happens between three consenting adults. you never hear that on breakfast news anymore but three consenting adults. >> that's why i'm stuck on the end of the couch. >> we didn't say four. >> you're a family man. >> i am. >> i wanted to ask you in the news this week we all covered. >> let me help you. >> good. there's this guy who fancies himself a pickup artist named is julian black. he charges hundreds of dollars and trains thousands and thousands of men around the globe to basically trick women into going home with them. you are a bona fide pickup artist. you're a charmer. >> you're a charmer. >> one second, i think what's implied in that whole language is that women are somehow a commodity. i think when i was younger i had, young men really want women and they don't know how to get them and i think they're vulnerable to ideas, you can pick up women with techniques
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and ideas but the truth is you have to be loving and open and vulnerable and tender and caring to people. when i was younger, i would have probably been found ideas like pickup artistry attractive but when you get a little more sophisticated you realize there is no way of tricking anybody into doing things that they don't want to do. it couldn't be anything but negative for both parties involved. >> what is your secret? >> my secret is that i know within you, there is a limitless, divine beauty and within me as well and if i connected that way -- >> whoa! >> -- it would be fantastic. chris! >> give it, mwh! he's good for everybody. i couldn't help myself. >> everybody is beautiful. >> smells like love. >> love and flowers. >> over my shoulder, run somewhere exotic. >> even chris is not imtune in this. >> change the topic quickly. change the topic quickly.
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i have to tell you, his brown eyes it's hard to focus. messiah complex premiering soon. this is an incredible proposition, you're smart to come to it again. >> i realized with the stapup comedy it is not restricted to any topic. i talk about gandhi, malcolm x and jesus cris, all great his, toal figures and in the case of the three more contemporaneous ones men willing to die for what they believed in but also flawed and human. although we think of gandhi as being the person responsible for the revolution or kicking people out of india or malcolm x in the civil rights movement in your country, well they were all figures that represent people, they were physical symbols or logos in a way for a much wider movement. >> you used the image of him, you know, with you superimposed
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over it? >> i know a lot of people think there was a degree of brutality to tegavarro, a suppose a brutal time. what i'm interested in is people willing to sacrifice themselves to represent ordinary people where we live in a cultural individualism is promoted to the degree where communities are lost and our connections, spirituality is lost. i find those attractive and appealing and the message inspiring >> are you okay to move on? >> yes, i'm ready to move on. very quickly, what do you think is going on here in our country with immigration? we're having a big battle about it tonight. >> well, i must say i'm not an expert on the subject, but in my country it focuses on people who don't have work and resources and at the top they have lots of money and resources. i don't think the poor people of the world should be hating on each other but coming together and focusing on the people that
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have the power and resources. you can't change power sources by condemning people that have nowhere, people from mexico, the middle east or britain. >> are are tortured by the paradox there's so much wisdom come out of you. >> they love his mind, too, chris. >> no, i prefer the cuddly bit. >> first "messiah complex" premieres friday november 28th, 10:00 p.m. eastern. check out russell brand's trixer it tales, the pied piper of hamlin. >> good sentence. >> what did i do well? >> a fine, fine figure, a wonderful representation of america right here, one of my favorite news shows. i've learned a lot, thank you, all of you. >> i'll take it. >> much more on "newsroom" next after break. curling up in bed
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