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tonight on cnn at 9:00 p.m. eastern exploring "is college worth it?" we'll have much more after this. traj. 12-year-old boy shot and killed by police after officers get this 11 call. >> you know, it's like point it at everybody. >> well, it turns out it wasn't a real gun. police say the officers didn't know that. folks in new york are still digging out from a massive snowstorm. now a new weather threat could make things even worse. plus, a new way to stop people from stealing gifts from your doorstep? you can do it right from your phone?
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hell gloen. i'm fredericka wit field. welcome to the newsroom. a 12-year-old boy shot and killed after police thought he was holding a real gun. turn out to be an air soft replica gun. sarah has more on the sequence of events. >> a 12-year-old boy is dead after a police shooting in cleveland saturday. >> i was sitting in the club. there was a guy with a pistol. you know, he was pointing it at everybody. it's probably fake, but you know what, it's scaring the [ bleep ] out of everybody. >> the gun was fake. an air soft replica gun that looks like a semiautomatic pistol, cleveland police said, adding the orange tabitha is supposed to identify it as a bb type gun had been removed.
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when they ordered the boy to put his hands in the air, he instead went for his waist band. >> the officers ordered him to stop and to show his hands, and he went into his waist band and pulled out the weapon. >> police say the officer fired two shots and the boy was hit in the torso. he died sunday morning following surgery. they say we're starting our investigation, we're gathering our witnesses, and they're gathering theirs. the cleveland police use of force team is also investigating. >> the swrob is to respond to assignments and to protect the community, and when an officer gives a command, we expect it to
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be followed. the way it looks right now, it was not followed. cnn spoke to the family's attorney today, and when the issue of race came up, he said this is not a race issue. it's a right and wrong issue. we also spoke to the cuyahoga county prosecutor's office, and we're told that the case eventually will be presented a grand jury for a decision. fred. >> and sarah, there was another police-involved shooting that has people very upset in new york. explain what happened as it pertains to that. >> yeah. that shooting as you have said, it's a completely different incident. the victim was a total innocent. that's what the nypd said. it happened friday night. police have described it as happening in a pitch black stairway in the housing projects in brooklyn. gurly was entering on the seventh floor. the officer was entering on the
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eighth floor, and the officer's gun went off shooting him once in the chest. he decide at the hospital. these aren't the only people that would like answers about how this could happen. the brooklyn district attorney ken thompson inside a statement that the shooting was deeply disturbing and warns an immediate fair and thorough investigation. the officer, i should note, fred, was a rookie still on probationary status less than 18 months on the job. he has been stripped of his badge and his gun for now. >> all right. thanks so much, sarah gannon, for that report. both shootings very tragic, but very different circumstances. last hour i spoke to a former police detective about the 12-year-old's death in cleveland, and here's his perspective. >> the officer gave a lawful order, and very sadly and unfortunately, the 12-year-old did not obey the order, and the
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officer had to make a quick split second decision, and usually the decision is based on either see someone die or you die or, unfortunately, you'll have to take the necessary action to prevent that from happening. >> we know that the barricades have been out if you ared towards the road, and, of course, you have businesses that over the past couple of weeks have been boarding up. especially those that are near the police department and also along west florist where the initial protesting happened back
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in august. everyone just sort of holding their breath. they've been at it for a long time now. we're into the third month since the killing of michael brown. frederick wra. >> we also heard from president obama. he had an interview with abc this week, and he talked about ferguson. what did he say? >> we know now he had a conversation with governor jay nixon here, the missouri governor who, as you remember last week, decided to declare a state of emergency. they will be in the background, but he said if needed they will be brought to the fore. here's what he had to say about
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his conversation with governor nixon. >> we saw during the summer the possibility of even overwhelmingly peaceful crowds being overrun by a few thugs. what i have done is called jay nixon, the governor of missouri. >> i can tell you about the protests that have been going on for now, more than 100 days. for most of those days, they have been peaceful protests. there have been incidents where people have been in the road and who have gotten arrested for blocking traffic, but there's been nobody who has been injured. want the police nor the protesters themselves over the past few weeks.
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a suicide bomber has attacked a crowd at a volleyball match. at least 45 people have been killed, and 60 others wounded. no one has claimed responsibility. the attack happened on the same day as afghanistan's parliament approving agreements with the u.s. and nato allowing international forces to remain in the country after this year. all right. coming up, millions of americans about to hit the road and fly the friendly skies for thanksgiving holidays, but will mother nature cooperate? down.
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moulgz of americans will either drive or fly to their thanksgiving destinations, but some parts of the country could be looking at snow and/or rain. jennifer gray has your holiday forecast. >> fred, this is a huge travel week for a lot of folks. rolling into thanksgiving. we have the macy's parade on thanksgiving day, and we could see snow for the northeast. the models still aren't agreeing 100%, so there's basically two scenarios we're looking at. this is the more aggressive scenario where you have the low
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tracking a little bit closer to shore. we are going to see the possibility of snow late wednesday and early thursday. could have a big impact on travel. folks trying to get in and out of major cities. we will have a clearer picture, and that's why you should stay tuned if you are traveling across the northeast. in time for thanksgiving. meanwhile, other folks across the country, your travel forecast. we are going to see a little bit of rain in atlanta on wednesday. 52 degrees. 81 and sunny in los angeles. seattle could be picking up some rain at 52. may or may not see some showers or snow showers across the northeast. that is yet to be determined. then we are going to see thursday looking all right. atlanta, you clear out. 56 degrees.
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23 in chicago for thanksgiving day. very chilly. detroit, 33. could see flurries there. new york city, d.c., we could be picking up some snow with temperatures around 42. fred. >> all right, thanks so much. swren fer gray, appreciate it. a 12-year-old boy shot and killed by police. who thought he was carrying a real gun. well, it wasn't. what went wrong? next. ♪
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tragedy. what has happened that a kid is perceived as a real possible threat? >> we debt get a 911 call. is t seems that the call pea petedly said this could be a toy that the young man had. we do know that the police have said this is a tragedy and that he didn't follow orders. we also know that this is a story that we've heard time and team again. at what point do we realize that maybe there's a more to this than a bunch of one-offs.
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maybe it's that these are young men that are perceived to be threats and officers get more aggressive than they need to because of all their preconceived notions about what a black man can do. >> looking at a transcription, the aller says i'm sitting in the park by west boulevard and there's a guy in here with a pistol. it's probably -- it's probably a fake one. the first responders are equipped with that little bit of knowledge. of course, when they get there, they are trained police officers to assess the situation and respond accordingly. what is the expectation on how a
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police officer should be responding? zootd other thing i thought was interesting is not only did they say it's probably a fake gun, they said he is a juvenile. they said he is sitting in a swing. if you show up with the call saying that you have a juvenile probably with a fake gun sitting in a swing, you would expect to have a certain level of restraint. the other thing that bothers me, the police report says -- we don't know what the facts are. it says he reached into his waist band, and he pulled out the gun, and that's why we shot him. now, to hear that, you say, well, that makes sense. have you noticed that every single time that's what they say? people don't understand. in a police-involved shooting, the police report is not written by the officer often. it's usually written by an attorney. the police officer has the right to have an attorney, so he doesn't incriminate himself, and usually you see this literally boilerplate language about i felt threatened, he reached for his gun no matter what the facts were. we need to figure out what the actual facts were. at a certain point i think
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discerning viewers will recognize there's a pattern here where every single time it's literally almost the same language because that's the language required by the law. not necessarily the language that describes the facts. at the root of this situation, is the case in which a police officer says he felt threatened and the next thing you know this unarmed teenager was killed. so it has certainly erupted. a lot of emotions. not just in ferguson, but really across the country. >> everybody haze feeling of anxiety. everybody has a feeling of frustration with the fact that this process is taking so long.
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the people who have been characterized as the protesters, i think are especially frustrated. they feel that the media keeps talking about we hope they're not violent. they shouldn't be violent. many of them say we've been out here peacefully for day after day after day when a lot of the violence from the police have not been talked about enough. remember, the last time we were here you saw tear gas with -- from the police against unarmed protesters. you saw rubber bullets and a lot of aggression from the police. they're saying will somebody also please tell the police for you to be peaceful, will you please obey the law because they have been trying very hard to do that. >> so, from your point of view, i know you're in washington, but of the people you have spoken to and just your bird's eye view and observation of all that's taking place in ferguson, do you think law enforcement is kind of pushing the envelope here, acting as an agitant as opposed to -- a real agitator as opposed to trying to keep the peace or be in place just in case? >> well, i -- you know, i too have been in ferguson over the
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past few months. i too have talked -- spoken with protesters, you know, people who have come from long distances just to show support with the brown family and heard the same thing. it's the frustration with the lack of focus on law enforcement. absolutely, i believe the tlort figures in the government are escalating this in a we that's not consistent with what us, the viewers, the public, what they're concerned with, what they're upset about. there is no reason whatsoever to continue to characterize people who are upset with the way they've been treated by police for two decades as they're all being criminals. maybe we should listen to them and look at the statistics and say, you know what, instead of
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automatically categorizing these group of people as rabble rouzers and angry people with no reason or just cause for their anger, let's look at the statistics and say they've been under siege for a long time, and the question isn't, you know, whether or not there will be peace in ferguson after the decision is made, but why hasn't there been peace in ferguson for the last 20 years? that's the real question. >> we'll leave it there. thanks to both of you gentlemen. appreciate it. >> thank you. sadly, it happens year-round. hard-working americans sending their gifts to their loved ones, but then all too often the packages get stolen right from their doorstep. now there's an app to stop those thefts. [ male announcer ] some come here
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bottom of the hour now. welcome back. i'm fredericka whitfield. here are several big stories we're seeing cross our cnn news desk right now. buffalo braces for a new threat.
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severe floothd flooding. ruzing temperatures meaning melting snow and rain is also on the way compounding it all. some areas could see five to six feet of floodwater, and dozens of roofs have collapsed from the weight of the snow already, and more could collapse as rain saturates the snow. national guardsman and fire crews from across new york are heading to buffalo to help. state officials have beefed up emergency supplies and prepared 180,000 sand bags. in afghanistan a suicide bomber has attacked a crowd at a volleyball match. at least 45 people have been killed. 60 others wounded. no one has claimed responsibility. the attack happened on the same day as afghanistan's parliament approving agreements with the u.s. and nato allowing international forces to remain in the country after this year. talks for a nuclear deal with iran might be extended beyond tomorrow's deadline. that is what a senior u.s. state department official tells cnn.
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earlier an iranian official was quoted by state media as saying a deal by tomorrow is impossible. six of the world's major powers are negotiating with iran. they want iran to reduce its capacity to enrich uranium, which could potentially be used in a nuclear weapon. back here in the u.s. president obama's executive action on immigration is still meeting up with heated criticism. earlier today on cnn's state of the union, senator lindsey graham talked about why he is disappointed, not just in president obama, but also the republican party. >> you are a supporter of immigration reform, but you opposed the president's action last week very strongly. >> it's one thick to say i don't have the ability to prosecute or deport everybody, so i'm going
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to rank them in order. it's another for the president of the united states to say not only will i decide not to prosecute a group of people, but i will affirmatively give you legal status. that is well beyond executive action. >> so if it's unconstitutional, as you think, is it an impeachable offense? >> right. >> i have a solution that i've been supporting that is comprehensive, that would allow legal status to the people in question. you do it through a congressional action where you get the entire system fixed. his action does not secure the border. it doesn't.
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>> he said it 11 times between wednesday and thursday. you passed a bill in the senate. you handed it to the house of representatives. the house of representatives decided not to do anything on it. it's just sitting there. so doesn't the house have a responsibility -- >> shame on us. >> doesn't the house have a responsibility here? >> shame on us as republicans. shame on us as republicans for having a body that cannot generate a solution to an issue that is national security, is cultural, and it's economic. the senate has done this three times. i love my house colleagues -- >> you do? >> i do. >> you do. >> i'm close to the people in the house, but i'm disappointed in my party. are we still the party of self-deportation? is it the position of the republican party that the 11 million must be driven out? i have never been in that camp as being practical. i am in the camp of securing our borders first, fix aing broken
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illegal immigration, van e-verify system to you can't cheat and get a job easily. >> hasn't the president called your bluff here because he sort of is saying to you guys, you got to deal with the 11 million? >> no, ma'am. he is doing a political -- he made a political decision. he is not a very good leader. he made a political decision to try to divide the republican party and take the office of the presidency to a level no one else has gone. it's that time of year when many of you buy and send gifts to friends and relatives. well, there's no worse feeling than learning the gift that you sent actually got stolen right from your doorstep. well, guess what. now there's an app for that. i want to bring in cnn nick
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valencia. okay. this might come as a great relief for some people or a big headache for others. >> yeah. >> which is it? >> has it ever happened to you? getting a package stolen off your doorstep. it happens to so many people, and last year return fraud $4 billion. that's when someone takes a package that's not theirs or retail item that's not theirs and returns it for cash. $4 billion. now there's this new san francisco-based company. they've started an app, and their goal is to guarantee that the package you ordered gets in your hands and not someone else's. >> it's also prime season for criminals when broad daylight seize the opportunity to grab those hot items right off your doorstep. >> the tracking number said it was delivered, but i never got the package. >> imagine this.
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>> who is at their home just waiting for their package to show up? >> ghost coast-to-coast no one is immune. with on-line retail sales topping $200 billion last we're in the u.s., that's expected to grow this year by about 10%, according to shop.org. >> i always felt like i was being punished by the current delivery system for having a full-time job. you know, the question was why can't this be delivered when i'm actually home? >> meet zander adel. his new san francisco startup, doorman, has the retailer ship your package to them and not your home. for $4 a package. >> once it arrives, we notify you on your phone, and then you use the doorman app to schedule delivery until midnight seven days a week. >> a bold business model as others have tried and failed. >> you have to have a big work force of delivery people, and so i think that, yeah, that's very ambitious. it's very tough. >> ambitious maybe, but if their business can eliminate the risk and prevent scenes like this from happening, it could be the shipping model of the future.
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>> now, you may be asking yourself, what if my package does get stolen? do i get a reimbursement? it's on a case by case basis. the best advice is to make sure that you have a signature or somebody there to receive the package. that's not always going to happen. >> i know. >> maybe this doorman will take off. >> it could potentially be great timing because tis the season for sure. >> all right. for giving and taking. >> yeah. thanks, fred. >> thanks so. , nick. all right. well, he headed up the task force responding to hurricane katrina. next, retired lieutenant general russell joins us live to weigh in on security preparations around ferguson, missouri.
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the whole general st. louis county area. at what point can beefing up security send the wrong signal end up further agitating as opposed to quelling? >> well, i think the interesting piece there, frederica, is that the governor issued that about the same time as the fbi. >> as well as protecting water stations for some strange reason. i think that may have encouraged the governor to put the state of emergency in, but now that that happened, fred, i think he should spend more time explaining to people why they have done what they've done and to convince people that they're
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there to protect people and not to have any other alternative motives. >> because it would seem there is an expectation by the citizens there that there would be contingency plans in place, but oftentimes when there is a plan in place, the public doesn't know about it. it's another thing that the public would know now what the plan is, how many resources are devoted to an area, so when a governor is to explain in your view, should he be including that kind of information? should there be, you know, many more vagueries as it pertains to explanations? >> one of the main rules to deal with a crisis in particular is to tell the truth. there can be no alternative motive when are you dealing with citizens inside the united states. this is unlike a warfare situation where you use deception and surprise on the
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enemy. in the united states people are expected to be told what's going to happen, when it's going to happen, and why it's happening. they expect the truth. no alternative motives. he needs to be dealing with the media daily because one of the issues why leaders talk to -- is to tamp down misinformation. information that may be put out to actually distort the truth or what may be happening on the ground and may cause more anxiety on the part of the people. another function of governor in the united states is to protect people. not just to protect some rules. i think the second piece there, fred, is they need to look at what rules they want to relax because the rules in and around dealing with civil disturbance and dealing with the crowds, that they're met for peace time operations. we got a little different situation going on here, and they could suspend some of the rules like police officer telling a reporter stand on the sidewalk, don't stand on the
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street. they're going to have to do some bending there, fred. >> and given there was so much unrest in august, one would think that a lot was learned during that time and the application of security would be in a different method this go-round. are you seeing any differences, or are you seeing any -- the same procedure about to be repeated? >> i think we are seeing some differences. we are not seeing police point guns in the anyone. we have not seen any tear gas, although we know they have it available. we haven't seen those monster almost tank looking mraps come out. i think the police have learned.
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in a surprise move bill cosby commented this weekend on the sexual assault allegations that have been piling up against him. his reaction comes as more women step forward with accusations. here's sarah gannon. >> reporter: the new allegations against bill cosby aren't just from women who say they felt violated by the comedian, but also from journalists who say they tried to report this story years ago and felt strongarmed by cosby's lawyers. at least three more women have come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct by bill cosby. joining ten others who have talked to various media outlets in the last several days. none of these women's stories have been independently verified by cnn, but their stories share many similarities, and in many cases the women say they belief they were drugged.
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>> it was his pre-show dinner that he would always have in his dressing room, and i appeared, and i had coffee drink and that's about all i remember, actually. >> reporter: cosby >> cosby had stayed silent but friday night he broke that silence telling the newspaper florida today saying i know people are tired of me not saying anything but a guy doesn't have to answer to innuendos. poem shou people shouldn't have to answer. the allegations are more than just innuendo. many of them are specific detailed stories told by 13 women. as women continue to come forward, members of the media are also speaking out saying they tried to dig deeper but were strong armed by his lawyers. a contributor for the daily
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beast says that his story years ago was stimied. >> bill cosby's lawyer said for us to report on this, we are doing so at our own peril. >> and robin said she was working on a story but was shut doub when cosby's lawyers talked them into trading the story with an exclusive interview with cosby. many standby their coverage telling the guardian news paper that the inquirer, more than any other publication, was unflinching in our aggressive coverage of the coverage. cosby's lawyer, martin singer, did not respond to cnn's questions about the allegations
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of media obstruction but he did say the new claims, quote, have escalated far past the point of absurd di. adding it is long past time for this media vilification of mr. cosby to stop. >> a few of cosby's shows have been cancelled or postponed but for the most part he shows no signs of slowing down. he has scheduled appearances listed for almost every week until may. >> thank you so much. next, thousands of private web cams under attack by russian hackers streaming live images from inside homes from around the world. what you can do to protect your privacy next. but first our weekly look into the future. richard quest looks at a new way to do your banking in tomorrow transformed. >> lending money has always been a community affair.
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now, here's some news you may find even more surprising. we're comcast. the only isp legally bound by full net neutrality rules. >> all right if you have a web cam, someone may be watching you without your permission. it's an easy thing to do for a hacker. we show what you can do to protect yourself. >> hey there. well, imagine in a mouse click a baby sleeping in his crib, a hospital room in minneapolis. these private moments are being pubically streamed on the internet. so what's the point?
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to prove just how easy it is. and it doesn't stop there. they are able to turn on public cameras and devices. if it sounds scary, it is. this is not a hard core hack. the reason hackers were able to stream from thousands around the world it all comes down to passwords. a lot of the cameras connected to the internet have default passwords and that's where you're vulnerable. many of these are posted on internet forums for anyone to browse and there are a lot of hackers looking at these. one security researcher showed me jugs how easy the whole process is. >> it is a live shot of somebody's home and there are many others out there like that. >> you were able to actually turn on a camera on someone's computer within their home and now we're looking at a person talking? >> yeah. not only the camera but on a lot
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of them you can also get audio if people don't change their default password. >> he asked his friend ahead of time if he could break in online and he was able to do this within minutes. change the password on your web cam. we can have manufacturers prompt users. if you're paranoid, put tape over your web cam. back to you. >> a 12-year-old boy shot and killed after police thought he was holding a real gun that turned out toe