the communities to still remain peaceful, to still act in a spirit of love and, you know, as for the church, somebody asked me today, what are you going to do? we're going to rebuild. >> you are, no doubt about it? >> no doubt about it. we haven't been knocked out. >> it's a hard thing. you have everything invested in h this. >> i poured out everything i had. i took my children's savings accounts to do this, to do the church and, you know, to see it in flames last night, i couldn't do anything but cry. all today it's just been a very emotional day. i feel like i've been hit with several different blows, the nonacquittal -- i'm sorry, the nonindictment, the way that we were told. to look at my members' faces and see the brokenness on their face and to see the community set on fire, then to get a call late last night that the church was on fire. it's been a strong testament of faith. >> pastor lee, i appreciate you

being with us and i wish you the best. >> thank you so much. i greatly appreciate it. it is just about 8:00 p.m. here in ferguson, and we just had a number of incidents here. protesters confronting authorities around the police headquarters. we saw two people being arrested. however, so far at least, no large scale violence, certainly not what we saw last night. in that respect a lot has changed in the 24 hours since the grand jury came down, the death of michael brown and parts erupted in violence. tonight a national guard presence, 2,200 troops. that's up from 700 last night. missouri's governor ordered them into action. they're out in force including around the police department in ferguson. again, some have been confronting protesters. however, it seems different in tone and tenor than last night's outpouring of rage. protesters out in force around the country as well. students if boston marching on police headquarters and towards the roxbury neighborhood. the marchers gathering around the local police station,

marches in new york, atlanta. we have seen more than 100 locations in all. in canada as well. i want to begin with chris cuomo at police headquarters in ferguson which is where we saw he so much of the violence last night. oop explain what's happening now? >> reporter: right now we're on the protesters' side of the street. it has been shut down . there are police cruisers about three blocks deep. on the other side they're just holding traffic because of what you're seeing now. this is what we were supposed to he see last night in terms of defensive setup by authorities. you have the national guard there in the traditional looking vdus, the dress form of the military, protecting the structures. you have the phalanx of officers and they are dealing with assembly not in the street. however, the street has now been shut down and they have moved back. they're definitely giving some quarter to the protesters.

people are mostly young and angry, they're chanting. obviously they're talking about what they see as a miscarriage of justice in the grand jury. >> and, chris, that has been the site of protests really over the last 100 days or so and it's usually been allowed to take place except when people get in the street and block the street. that's in the paths when we've he seep seen arrests being made. >> reporter: and that's what's happening now. the question is how much do the authorities allow here outside the norm which was to have business as usual with traffic moving. you see a couple of cars get through here now but they're basically coming from this area. it's not through traffic. you have several hundred. the crowd is growing here and they are upset as you can see from the signs they have here. and you've heard a lot of this, anderson, people are very angry.

>> chris cuomo, appreciate it. we'll continue to check in with you. we saw at least two arrests being made there several minutes ago. as i said there are protests across the country including in new york. miguel marquez has been with the protesters there. miguel, last we saw you protesters were on the fdr drive which is a major highway around the east side of manhattan. where are you now and what's the scene? we saw police also warning protesters that they were assembling unlawfully? >> reporter: we are further up the fdr and both lanes are now shut down. protesters have taken over both the south side and the northbound lane. we're probably somewhere around east 20th street right now heading up toward we don't really know. last night we walked all the way to harlem and there was a standoff with police when they tried to take a bridge. there are several simultaneous protests going on across the city. part of the protesters plan to try to take back the streets and

show authorities who is boss, essentially. people, this crowd we're with, growing in size. if you can see that light shining over us as we go, that's the police helicopter overhead keeping track of this. police, i will say, were on an elevated part of the fdr, in large numbers, are along the bottom, here on the south side, you can see the police vehicles are gathered here. at certain points police did form a barricade or a blockade to try to slow the crowd down. it is not clear if this will come to a confrontation. they are allowing these protestsors to protest. anderson? >> miguel, how is this organized? it's organized over social media or planned well advance? had and i assume usually in new york you have to have a permit from protests. i assume something like there there's not a permit, they just marched on to the fdr drive, is that right? >> reporter: yeah. look, they saw what happened last night. the protesters took to the

streets. they started going up against traffic, marched all the way to harlem, tried to take several bridges last night and that inspired a lot of groups in the city. they then got together today and clearly there was a coordinated effort for different groups to head off at different times, different parts of the city, to take back the streets and to prove their point who is in charge of so ciety and what the want authority to do and just frustrate the police and their ability to handle all these protests. at the moment they are here in very big numbers. they are not in riot gear. they are nearby but not make willing their presence well known. they are walk iing by but stayi back. this protest clearly a spark in ferguson has just caused a fire here in new york. anderson? >> miguel marquez, thank you very much for that. let's go next to los angeles.

paul, we're seeing what looks like a very different situation there. a lot more police vehicles than we've seen at least in new york where miguel marquez is. what's the scene where you're at? >> reporter: well, i'm right here at flowers street near usc and there's a metro train track running through. so police thought they would take a stand here and as they try to go down they seal them off. this crowd of about 300 or 400 went down the other way. go ahead and pan over here. you can see the protest has moved back up figueroa. there was a heated confrontation, some shouting. police surrounding the police car. there were no punches thrown or pounding on the car. this has large byly been a peaceful demonstration with protesters chanting everything with hands up, don't shoot, and

support for ferguson here in los angeles tonight. they have been hiking for at least two and a half miles. there's not been any violence that we have seen. >> i want to bring in as we look at these images from los angeles, i want to bring in retired general russel honore. as you see these pictures, it is interesting how a protest which began here in ferguson, how we are now seeing protesting popping up in a number of cities across the united states. we saw a little bit last night, certainly now it seems to be somewhat even larger, at least more widespread. how difficult is it for law enforcement to deal with a situation like this because, again, these are not permitted protests. police don't want to be too aggressive. at the same time they do want to

maintain law and order. >> absolutely, anderson. it takes a lot of patience he on the police part to understand that civil disobedience by it self is to force the police to take actions. so the people stand in the street, and if it can be done in a safe way, sometimes it's best to observe that as long as it doesn't go violent. more often than not, many times the police will want to move them out of the street because i said so . and that is when the pushing and shoving starts, and that's when they go violent and when they put people in jail. or people actually do criminal acts like throw things at the police. you throw something at the police, you're going to go to jail. i think police are in the city unlike ferguson and st. louis that have mobilized national guard and backup troops, they're dealing with shift officers who are probably working overtime. they're going to have it to

change their game unless they can come to a political conclusion that says, hey, we're going to do this in terms of a federal review of procedures across the country at the heart of this issue or we're going to have a blue ribbon panel that has 90 days to make recommendations to the federal government as well as to every state on how we deal with these issues in the future. i'm going to tell you this, anderson, if st. louis can't control this, you know what the next step is and it's called the insurrection act, the same thing they did in los angeles. we're nowhere near that now, but people might want to look at that because that is a statute that's designed if local authorities cannot control and provide civil law inside their cities. over. >> it's interesting, general, when we heard earlier today from the mayor of ferguson who himself came under a lot of

criticism over the course of the summer by saying there's no racial divide in the city. he said he has no relationship with the governor of this state and, in fact, hasn't talked to the governor of the state of missouri since the last protests in the summer. in terms of an organization of trying to affect change in the community here which clearly needs to take place on some level, the fact there's no communication between the mayor and the governor is kind of extraordinary. >> yeah, i'm surprised, too. when you go back and you look at the history of crisis in the country, that's the kind of a problem we had during katrina, command and control. we had the same thing up in new jersey with the governor of new jersey and a mayor. we'll have to relook at this with a blue ribbon panel to determine what is broken in our governance that we can't handle simple operations. you know people like in the uk, the london police must be

shaking their head in amazement at how we respond to simple civil disobedience in the united states. >> lieutenant general russel honore, we'll continue to talk to you throughout this hour. up next officer wilson's attorneys speaking out for the first time tonight. i talked to two of them just before we went on air. we'll hear their perception of what is happening in the streets here. also their perception of the case that officer wilson made to the grand jury and a whole lot more. my conversation with them ahead as protests continue to take place across the kcountry. more on that tonight. stay tuned. ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better

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sleep number store. this week only, save 50% on the ultimate limited edition bed. know better sleep with sleep number. welcome back. we're seeing protests taking place across the country in new york, boston, los angeles, atlanta, as well as clashing with authorities in ferguson. nothing certainly like last night, thank goodness, tonight the man who used deadly force

against michael brown spoke out talking to george stephanopolous. >> is there anything you could have done differently that would have prevent that had killing from taking place? >> no. >> nothing? >> no. >> and you're absolutely he convinced when you look through your heart and your mind that if mikally brown were white, this would have gone down in exactly the same way? >> yes. >> no question? >> no question. >> officer wilson's status remains the same on paid administrative leave. earlier i spoke to his attorneys. let me start by asking, as you saw the images last night of what happened after the announcement, what went through your mind having been so closely involved with this? >> it was profound sadness. as i watched what should have been a happy day for darren and for the outcome of the case, was all lost.

i couldn't watch it and not just feel -- i felt it so deeply. i wanted to cry. it was awful to watch. >> how is darren wilson doing? >> we were with him for several hours. he's relieved so there's been this huge weight lifted off his shoulders but, again, he's watching the same images that i'm watching and you're standing in. i think it has the same effect. >> he's been watching on television? >> he has. >> it's such a diverse community and his patent statement is ferguson loves feg son. ferguson. >> do you know what happens to him? does he want to be a police officer somewhere? >> i don't think that's of possible. he'll be looking for a different career going forward. >> i will tell you his whole life was about being a police officer, about service. that's what he wanted to do.

there are two tragedies, the first is michael brown's life. here is a man who was going to dedicate his life to the service of the community, and the community at large, and we've lost that, too. >> there are a number of people who have been looking at the witness testimony today and said, look, even as the prosecutor himself last night was talking about all the contradictory eyewitness testimony that some people see that and say, look, this could have easily gone to a trial and been left up to a jury to decide. >> if you look at everything, and i've heard lots of complaints, the vision was put as much in front of the grand jury as i can. who can complain about that? how can we complain there's been too much information? mu too much. he's given them everything. let's start with that. >> as you know there have been complaints. people said, well, it was an attempt to overwhelm the grand

jury. some of the evidence might not have been admissible in a court of law. >> that doesn't matter in a grand jury. there are no rules of evidence in a grand jury. we don't say is this admissible? you can put everything in front of a grand jury. >> it is highly unusual the way this was presented to the grand jury. normally a prosecutor would kind of pick and choose what was presented because it's about probable cause. >> here is where i disagree. in most cases there's a reason you go. he secrecy is always the key. you go to a grand jury with evidence because you want to keep the names of witnesses private. in this instance with all of the threats made, all of these people who needed to come forward, you can't look at what's going on in ferguson right now and think that the people who are witnesses would feel comfort able with their names being out in public. so you go to a grand jury, you have that secrecy so people can come in and be confident their testimony is, in fact, going to

be secret. to me it made perfect sense they did it this way. unusual, yes. as a form er prosecutor, i ran a grand jury, i know how it works. i've never done it this way, but then we've never had a case quite like this. >> how critical for darren wilson to be on the stand in front of that grand jury? >> absolutely critical. >> not just getting the information across but his demeanor. >> all of those things. you had to listen to him. you had to see him testify. you had to look into his eyes. you had to weigh those words. it was absolutely essential he testify. >> do you believe if publicly people had heard from him earlier on the perception of this incident may have been different? >> yes. >> and i agree with that, but we couldn't. there was a criminal investigation. bob mcculloch said part of the reason was protecting the integrity of the investigation.

part of where we were was to do just that as well. we didn't want to put a statement out there. we didn't want people to try to disprove it by having other witnesses come forward just to say it wasn't true and we knew there were lots of witnesses making things up. mcculloch said as much. the integrity meant we couldn't say this publicly. >> the biggest threat to darren wilson's freedom essentially was this case as oppose d to the federal case, the standard for a federal case is much different. >> i think so. >> to go after him on a civil rights investigation, you have to show that he intended to violate your civil rights. if you don't even have probable cause in this instance, intentional acts are hard. >> what will happen to darren wilson now? where does he go? >> start his life over. the life he had as darren wilson, a police officer, is over. so he'll have to find a new way -- >> how concerned are you about

his security? >> very concerned. that's been part of the reason, too, we've kept such a low profile. there are death threats, constant death threats. there are bounties on his head. we think about that every time we meet. we walk out of a building, he looks every way. i do that now, too, and so does jim. we he just have to be concerned about those things. >> guys, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> two of darren wilson's attorneys i talked to before the broadcast. jeffrey toobin and sonny hoskins. let's talk about the leadership that we have seen from the governor of this state and from others. what do you make of how the announcement was handled and also by the decisions by mcculloch and it seems the governor not weighing in on that at all, leaving it up to the prosecutor. >> jay nixon will have been

governor of missouri for eight years. the single most important night of his governship was last night and he was asked at the press conference yesterday afternoon, do you agree with the decision to announce the grand jury decision at night after dark? and he said, no, that was up to mcculloch. i thought that set the tone for the clueless and incompetent leadership that all of these missouri officials have shown. the fact that looters were allowed with impunity, criminals to throw bottles, to throw rocks, to shoot guns, to loot, to set fires without being arrested, the number of arrests last night was tiny compared to the number of crimes committed. and it was just a deep disgrace for the state of missouri and jay nixon should be hanging his head in shame. fortunately tonight they did what they should have done last night which is bring the appropriate amount of security.

>> jeff, it is a tough situation. let me play devil's advocate. there are those who say, look, during the summer when the police had a very aggressive stance, they came under huge criticism for that. and now they're being criticized for not doing enough last night. >> that's right. and if there had been too much force last night there would have been no fires, no looting and maybe some uncomfortable photographs in the newspaper and on the web of sold iers waiting around with nothing to do. that would have been a heck of a lot better than the disgraceful activity and rampant criminality of last night. >> paul, i was thinking about police officers last night seemed to be in a precarious spot because they were essentially standing by in many cases as people in some cases

were throwing bottles and stuch at them. it seems they were under orders whereas tonight we've already seen police kind of going -- trying to isolate one or two individuals who seem to be causing trouble allowing pea peaceful protests to continue but going in arresting one or two people and then pulling them out. >> they're in a tough spot. obviously you have demonstrators here and the essence of the demonstration is that the police are brutal and that they don't treat the african-american community in particular with respect. at the same time you have the very same police officers guarding the demonstrators. so the police are caught in the middle on this and i think as a result public officials have been tentative and i have to agree with jeff it's just been a public disaster in terms of how security has been handled. it's a tense situation and you need thoughtful people governing the situation in order to get through it. we haven't seen too much of that

in missouri. >> and, sonny, there were months of planning that allegedly were done, training as well, and yet it seems haphazard. >> that was remarkable to me. we know the grand jury likely reached their decision around noon. and then the government had, what, eight hours to plan this out , and the only response we get from the governor is he let the prosecutor make the decision? my goodness. this prosecutor has more power than it seems like the attorney general of the united states. i mean, he doesn't have to step aside and have a special prosecutor appointed. he releases grand jury testimony without the approval of a judge, be without the review after judge, which i've never heard of. and he decides that the announcement is going to be made eight hours in the evening, which was a negligent at the very best timing of the announcement because you can't

control crowds in the dark. so it just seems to me like this prosecutor sure does have a lot of power. we're talking about a state prosecutor. it's remarkable to me. >> i appreciate talking to you. go ahead. >> the pictures we're seeing tonight, los angeles, new york, boston, this is how you do crowd control. you let people express their views, but if they start throwing rocks and bottles, you arrest them. these are very appropriate behavior by the police and there is no violence as a result. >> jeff, i appreciate it. paul as well. you can find more on this story on cnn.com. we have a lot of coverage throughout this next hour. we're looking at scenes from around the can country as jeff just mentioned, seeing protesters taking over a new york city highway. police have warned them. the picture, a large crowd, this is a highly unusual sight. to have protesters moving up the

fdr drive and here near -- that looks like union square, near union square in new york, i'm told, although -- yeah, that's what i'm told it is, union square. to have protesters wandering the streets like this is highly unusual without a permit. the police clearly allowing it as long as there is not violence. we'll continue to show various protests throughout the country. also want to show some protesters at a fence in los angeles. it seems they have been trying to rip the fence down, i'm told. now it seems like others have told them to move away. >> run it over! >> take that thing down. >> police are watching these protests continue. >> here we go. here we go. here we go.

>> go ahead, go ahead. >> rip that -- rip that -- >> it looks possibly like they may be trying to get to the interstate so they can actually block the interstate. i don't know that for sure but that's certainly what it seems like, that they may be trying to rip down this fence so that they can actually move in greater numbers onto the highway and try to block the highway which is something we've seen. obviously we saw that in new york as well. we saw that earlier in downtown st. louis earlier today. we saw some he protesters blocking one of the highways into st. louis, very close to the downtown. that didn't seem to last for too long. there you see a protester trying

to move over. now this is the scene in atlanta. a crowd of looks like several hundred perhaps more than 100 people in the area of 200 to 300 people at least in that picture moving across an intersection. you see a relatively heavy police presence. we're not sure how long that protest has gone on. they continue to work on this fence. it looks like they are hoping to block off a highway. you can see a fair amount of traffic already on the road, this being 6:30 los angeles time. rush hour obviously. that would be a big concern to law enforcement if highways during rush hour started to get blocked. we'll continue to follow this. i think we'll take a short break. coverage will continue in just a moment.

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welcome back. there have been a number of clashes between protesters and law enforcement. a big human presence on the streets of los angeles, atlanta, boston, new york, where protesters marched through manhattan, took over part of the main east side highway, the fdr drive. back in ferguson tonight 2,200 national guard troops on the streets. more than three times as many as last night. i want to go to chris cuomo. we saw about two people being arrested. i'm wondering the scene there now. >> reporter: no more arrests but what we're seeing is there's a little bit after change from strategy by the officers across the street. again, it's the officers, the locals doing this. the national guard is still staying back protecting the fire department, the police department. at one point one group moved too far in the street. a police officer came over, they had a discussion, and all of the

officers moved across the street, pushed the protesters back onto the sidewalk. that seems to be their main concern is the street. the street is effectively closed off. now they've spread out all the way along here. it's hard to see over the backs of protesters but they're now spread down in front of the line of protesters and they're very close. you have them now eye to eye. >> and the mood there is -- how is it? >> reporter: look, i've been listening to the conversations you've been having on the show tonight and it really does go a lot to what's being experienced on the street. they're obviously unhappy. there's no surprise there. there's a feeling of powerlessness that this is all they can do right now, that the system has failed them, that the grand jury that was supposed to give them a measure of justice didn't. and that this is their resort. one thing you don't see here in these protests is leadership. i'm not saying the community doesn't come out, they don't organize, there's not leadership among their own ranks, but you

don't see the elect ed official, you don't see people who recognize heads of the community coming out, members of clergy are spread out, but they're not here. they're not talking to the people in this community. i think that's a very relevant fact are tore, anderson. >> all right, chris cuomo. we'll check back in with you throughout the hour. joining me is pastor robert white of the peace of mind church of happiness, probably my favorite name of any church anywhere. it's great to have you both on with me again. first of all, you told me your church was vandalized last night. >> mine was done months ago. >> so it wasn't just last night? >> it wasn't just last night. we were joking around, he commented on his was burned last night. antonio said he was burning and mine was vandalized since the last we saw each other. >> and yours was vandalized last

night? >> he tthe fire actually starte a building and it destroyed about five businesses. >> what do you make of what you have seen out here tonight and what you saw out here last night? what surprised you about last night if anything? >> it's still early tonight. hopefully we have a better response tonight. i was really struck by how off guard the government seemed to be. we were out where the office was and there were no police, no national guard. when the looting started, the fires were starting, there was just no one out there. it seems like we have the negative sides but none of the benefits. >> do you agree with that? >> all the cops were over on the south side where i was. and i'm hearing the governor has called in the national guard to go on south florissant.

they talked how they were going to be ready. is this what you planned for? did you plan to leave the business he can posed so those who have ill will can come and set it on fire? because with all the forces they showed, they easily could have prevent ed it. look at the surrounding counties. hazelwood police department, no fires, st. louis, they allowed us to protest today without any problems. so what plan did the governor, captain johnson and his team come up with that allowed 15 buildings to burn? >> i wonder what communication has been like with the governor and local authorities. we heard from the mayor who says he hasn't talked to the governor since the protests this summer. i would have thought for all the talk this summer of things needing to change and people's voices needing to be heard, the fact that the mayor and the governor are not even communicating that really surprised me. >> there wasn't a lot of coordination especially last night. i think the county prosecutor kind of unilaterally decided to

release that information at night. >> i mean in terms of progress and change. unless there's communication between a high-up official, it doesn't seem like anything is going to change. >> we haven't seen that yet. >> when had you create a commission and say this commission will talk about the city of ferguson and leave out a large portion of the voices, these small municipalities, small towns , chiefs of police, everybody needs to be brought to the table to have that dialogue. as we see it's not just ferguson residents over here on south and west flo ririssant avenue. it cannot just be done for show and tell. >> a lot of work to be done. >> and a lot of businesses to be rebuilt. i talked to a number of business leaders today. some of them had their places destroyed.

all of them talk about rebuilding, about wanting to rebuild. are you confidence the areas in ferguson we saw are all going to rebuild? >> i hope so. what i do know the violence last night has really gotten us distracted and off track. we should be talking about how to prepare the systemic racism and incidents that led to this unrest. the message is they aren't doing anybody any favors. they actually took away from the message and they're hurting the mission. >> we need to talk about accountability as well. someone has to be accountable and we just can't blame the looters or the rioters. they've been pushed into these corners. they've been pushed and they've been prodded and treated and mistreated. we had an elderly woman come to me last night and she said watch how they'll strategically move -- and i heard you talk about how they're going in strategically but they were moving almost like we were all on the auction block. they were grabbing the strong,

tall, voiceful out of the crowd and arresting them for no reason or than what seemed to be like a physical threat. >> you would agree there were opportunists out last night, people taking advantage of the situation. i think reverend sharpton talked earlier today about some of people who were burning down buildings weren't there for mike brown. they were there for themselves. >> you have -- >> and you tweeted out yesterday something like there were protesters but there were looters and arsonists and people should understand the difference. >> have not been out here the last 100 days and showed up last night and weren't carrying signs and weren't chanting messages but only showed up to break into buildings. those are opportunistic criminals. they should not be able to define the entire group. >> and that's where the communication can come in when they plan for that. we've had ears on the ground and tried to communicate those persons we can identify who had the opportunistic idea.

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welcome back. we've been reporting protests across the country in new york where miguel marquez joins us outside the united nations where pro-teste protesters stopped for a moment of violence. it looks very large indeed. >> reporter: it is 500 or 600 here. they have marched for many blocks. rick, if you can move in and show this crowd. an extraordinary thing just a moment ago, anderson, where they stopped for four and a half minutes of all the noise we've heard tonight there was absolute silence. stone silence. four and a half minutes for mike brown. there's now an organizer on top of a bus stop addressing the crowd and looks like they are starting to move north again

along the east side here. it's not clear where they're going and whether or not they're heading to times square or up into harlem. this crowd now energized after this little stop. they are chanting hands up, don't shoot. they are walking along with their hands up in the air, the signs -- this is the first time this evening as well that we have seen the entire contingent of people together and it does look to be 500600 here. this is one of many, many protests across the city tonight, though. there was a coordinated effort to get protesters out to various parts of the city and take back the streets. they want to prove to officials here and across the country that it is the people themselves in charge and they want these senseless deaths to stop. anderson?

>> miguel, is it clear where the protesters are actually heading or is it -- i mean, is it kind of known in advance? >> reporter: well, we have been trying to figure that out all night and it's a mystery. we have breaking news on our direction here. we're now heading west on 44th street. so my guess, my educated guess, is that we are probably heading over to times square where they did go last night. but then they stopped there for a little while and then moved on up to harlem, another, what was it, 50 or 60 blocks or so and over the triborough bridge where they tried to take that bridge and that's when it turned into a bit of a confrontation with police. it is extraordinary to see the restraint with which nypd has reacted today. rick, if you turn around it had this way, you can see police are very, very close by. they he are only uniformed. and they are just keeping an eye on things. they have not tried to force these protesters to go any

place. the protests has broken up in different directions, leading police all over the city and now they're heading west on 44th and probably over to times square. we'll see what happens there. they had some issues there last night, some earlier today but so far this protest has been completely peaceful with people exercising their vases tonight. anderson? >> all right, miguel marquez, i appreciate that. police have been making arrests in los angeles. paul, last time we saw a scene in los angeles it looked like people were trying to get through or rip down a chain link fence perhaps to get on a highway. what's going on now? >> reporter: well, i have to say that some of the organizers walked over to those individuals who were trying to rip down or jump over , some of them did, the fence that led to the very busy 110 freeway in downtown los angeles, and they prevailed upon the sort of splinter group of demonstrators to stop and come back over the fence and now

everybody is walking right back up in front of the los angeles convention center chanting hands up, don't shoot, and they seem to be heading to city hall. they defused that situation there. you can imagine if the folks had got on the other side of the 110 freeway that could have been disastrous. so far right now they're just back to marching. >> and i understand there have been some arrests. how close are police? >> reporter: well, what police have done is sort of ringed this area and given the protesters a lot of latitude. wherever they've gone and this has been a miles long walk now. there were a couple of standoffs, one you alluded to when you came to me earlier near the train tracks. they were able to diffuse that

situation. they were concerned about someone getting hurt by the train. we do see police presence in some ayaz they're very concerned about but you're not seeing, for example -- i see a couple offers right there, anderson, and that's about it. it's not as if they are trailing or tailing or having motorcycle cops go along with the parade. i think part of their strategy has been to go ahead and give the demonstrators a fair amount of elbowroom just so long they don't do anything that could be dangerous. >> there on the left-hand side of your screen, you are also seeing the scene in new york. where large numbers, hundred of protesters are moving, miguel marques, believes towards time square. they're not absolutely sure. looks like some of the protesters are moving at a pretty, pretty high rate of speed, walking pretty fast there. we'll continue to follow those protests. we're going to take a short

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limited edition bed. know better sleep with sleep number. we have been showing you protests from around the country. i want to show you atlanta, george howell is with protesters there. george, what have you been seeing so far? >> right now, anderson, we are seeing protesters or peach treat state. main street through the heart of atlanta. it has been peaceful for the most part. i can say. we started around 4:00. really saw protesters start coming from the university center. walking toward the cnn headquarters building. they face protesters there. [ indiscernible ] it was peaceful. they went on to the capital building. we understand there were a few

confrontations with police. and then they went on to the highway. that's where we understand some people may have been detained. what we are seeing right now, is live pictures again on peach tree street. we have seen police in riot gear. seen police with their helmets. a great deal of restraint. and also, a couple of arrests. let's say detentions. not sure why the people were taken to jail. at least five people detained at this point. again. here in downtown atlanta. keep in mind, were's seeing these protests continue. they started at 4:00 p.m. this afternoon. and they're continuing through the hour. >> all right. george. thank you very much. we'll continue to check in with you as well throughout the evening. i want to introduce the local business owner. whose business, the original red's barbecue was, was destroyed last night. how bad is the damage? >> it's bad. it's not -- we can't operate for a while. until they fix the place up.

>> what's horrible about this. many things. but in august, there was destruction as well. you guys reopened. you were, i remember i was out there. you were cooking barbecue in the parking lot. >> yes. the seating area was still bad. so, we decided to, to go the extra mile and, we thought that we need to put something positive out in the community. and, that was to just, you know, summertime. barbecue. just cook outside. that's what we did. and hopefully, it, it held. i think it did help. people started coming out after that initial struggle of three, four days. that was exactly the agenda. >> now to have this. what? do you feel? do you feel like it was outsiders? people who were, maybe, you know, from the community? what? what does it feel like? >> once again. i am still a firm believer in the fabric of a strong neighborhood. i don't know. i don't know the answer to the question.

i don't think people in the neighborhood would do that. destruction dies strukttion. -- destruction is destruction. >> when you bought the business you, brought it back i understand to the community. didn't you? >> yes, red's barbecue was a native to ferguson community for quite some time. we brought it back. a pretty good business. we did. we did, got by fine. people loved us. just, opened the doors. customers are showing up. that shows you that people want to us be here. >> do you think. will you reopen? >> i want to. i -- i want to. but it's -- i'm not as confident as i was last time. because, you know the first time it happened. we thought, stuff happens, roll

with the punches you move on. this time the damage is much more extensive what it was last time. also, i don't know if, if, my customers would want to come back. or i, it's a lot of things we have to think it through. i'm not sure if this is going to stop. i don't know what is going to happen. i don't know who is to be held accountable. there is no accountability. i'm the collateral damage. >> wish you the best. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> there is a lot more obviously in our coverage. and we are looking at protests. in new york and also, again, general, when you look at pre tests. seeing the scenes right now in new york. it is -- it is amazing to see this in such large cities.

new york, los angeles. protesters in large numbers particularly in new york just, just moving through the city without really a plan that has been announced. without permits or anything. obviously for law enforcement this is a very delicate balance. >> absolutely. and the best thing they could do in a peaceful protest like this, this could easily go to a d disobedience if the police walken front of them and tell them to stop right now. we close our roads every day in america, because of wrecks. let these people walk. let them talk. as long as they're nonviolent, because if the police tell them to stop now, because they want them off the road, because the police said so, then you are going to go disobedience. because they're disobeying civil order from the police. so i think what you are seeing on television right now, let it work itself out. let people demonstrate.

because as soon as the police tell them to stop. and the demonstrators want to continue to move. it goats to cives to civil diso. >> lieutenant general, appreciate you being with us over the last two hours. that's it for this program. our coverage continues though with "cnn tonight" and don lemon. >> thank you very much, andersen. breaking news tonight. protests all across this country tonight. you are looking now live at protests in new york city. at grand central terminal. we are going to be covering the protests all over the country. including in los angeles tonight and as well as in los angeles. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. here's what we know as we progress. we have been covering the unrest here in ferguson, missouri. a grand jury decided not to indict officer darren wilson in the shooting death of michael brown. the governor has weighed in on this. also the preside