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at everything except skiing. something tells me that they're both winners. the next hour of newsroom begins right now with my good friend. >> hi. you're in the cnn newsroom. the mayor of ferguson, missouri, says that darren wilson has cut all ties to the city's police force. he said wilson did not receive a severance package when he resigned. the community is now ready to look ahead. he is launching a new effort to recruit minorities to the police department and protesters, however, on the streets last night said that darren wilson's resignation comes far too late.
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today the police chief vowed to stay on the job. >> my focus has always been on the safety and security of the city of ferguson and its citizens. i report to the leadership of ferguson. >> are you going resign, sir? >> no. >> he has been traveling through the areas that were hardest hit and i want to you to give us the response to the reaction. people are saying look they're trying to get their lives together.
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>> as you look out the window and start to see the boarded up windows, there have been groups of people coming in here and painting murals all over the hopeful messages and that sort of thing. the barricades are still up but no sign of the national guard just yet. usually they come out at night if needed. the theme throughout the day in various places that we have been speaking with the mayor and at a church service, people trying to turn that page, looking ahead to what is next.
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focus on getting back on their feet. mobilize the economy that has been hurt for the last few months. the theme is turning the page, looking ahead. that's what we have heard a lot about today, ed. >> i think it's quite amazing that you're giving us this live tour as you drive through the neighborhood. there are not a lot of people out there today on the street. is there a sense of quiet and caulk that people are inside their homes for the holidays and really trying to assess where to go next? >> well, you know it's interesting. this was just on -- just north of the police department. you know, it's the temperature dropped dramatically in the last couple of hours. the end of that holiday weekend, people kind of wrapping up, but, you know, about a mile away from
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us is where that other stretch of road way that saw the most violent and most intense protest. a lot of those businesses have not reopened on that stretch. during the daylight hours when people are free to move along and come and go on that stretch. it's quiet. but for a lot of people, given what has happened here, quiet is a great thing. >> yeah. yeah. ed, thank you so much. literally taking us through the sfree streets there. really outstanding job that you have done. i am also joined by michael and tar rah and for the holiday, michael is a special correspondent. thanks for spending the thanksgiving weekend with us. obviously a lopt of news this week. i want to start off here.
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it also talked about the two coming together here when you think about what is going to happen the 90 seconds that were so crucial. >> we really need to study those 90 seconds. you study 90 seconds in a plane crash, the weather, the mechanics. i don't think there has been enough detailed look at that we do know that police officer darren wilson was not resourceful enough to diffuse the situation involving an 18-year-old young man. resigning from the police department is the hardest thing i have ever had to do. you would hope that shooting an
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18-year-old unarmed kid would be the hardest thing. they were also pressing my wife to resign. she is completely blameless in this. if the police department, the guy running the police department is pushing her to resign, i don't know how he stays in his spot. >> and one of the things that michael talks about in that article as well is who is responsible, right? who bears the burden of the person who is suppose to have cool heads prevail in that situation? >> have you ever been a law enforcement officer? >> no. i have not been. >> it's very easy for you to be an armchair quarterback. >> you passed aspersions on him said he shot a helpless 18-year-old kid in the head. i listened to the tapes, i read the radio traffic. darren wilson was quite calm
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cool and collected during most of that. he was not out of control unlike the myth olg. i come from a law enforcement family. my husband is a law enforcement officer and, you know, he is looking at the situation and said he would have done almost exactly what darren wilson did given the circumstances. we have got to realize that michael brown did not this did not happen in a vacuum. his choices led up to what happened. >> i completely agree. >> thank got. but a lot of people ignore the fact that he chose to strong arm rob a store and strong arm a police officer. i understand there is a tension with the black community and police officers and i think that is a valid conversation to have and why that is is valid but they are conflating two different issues. michael brown is not the martyr that people are making him sound
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like. he did not just walk down the street and some rogue cop shot him in the head and it's awful to continue that myth. >> which is why i think we really need to study it. his friend's testimony. >> johnson, the man who is known to lie many times? it was deemed not credible. go ahead. >> i'm not sure that is completely true. but i do think when he talks about michael brown in that store grabbing the stuff and his friend thought that was nuts. obviously something was wrong with michael brown that day. >> he was high. >> and obviously something was wrong when he ran into the police officer. i think what we need to do is study every single ins dend of what happened and how can we prevent such thing from happening again? i have a lot of friends who are police officers and i couldn't agree more.
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>> he went from helping a two month old baby to shooting this kid. >> first of all, just to be clear, i know you said he was guilty of bad behavior but you're not saying he deserved to die. >> no. but he made choices that put him in that situation. if he had not been defiant when the police officer talked to him. if he had not turned around and engaged in assault with a police officer which evidence proved that part of darren will sob's testimony to be true and several black witnesses came forward and said there was a scuffle as well, those things led to this. i don't think that darren wilson woke up that day and decided to shoot a black boy. but we have got stop saying boy. he was 6'5", 300 pounds. >> we're going to deal with it on the other side.
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facts in situations like these. sometimes i feel like it's us against them. sometimes i'm just as prejudice as people i point fingers at and that's not right. how can i look at white skin and make assumptions and not want assumptions made about me? that's not right. >> i want to talk about why ferguson set off so many emotions. michael, do you think that people were responding to facts? do you think it was more of a visceral emotional reaction that happened? a pattern throughout the country when they look at young black men who have been killed by white police officers. >> i think it was a generic response. we have got a white cop and a black young man and i don't think people were looking at who exactly did what, did what when and who was within their rights to do what, who could have stopped what. i think it was not a specific thing. i think if this thing were white he would have gotten shot.
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>> i think facts went out the window very quickly. there were race agitators that ran with this and actually exploited michael brown's death to further a social justice agenda that is questionable at this point. i think the president of the united states and the attorney general fermented this because they have a social justice agenda. they think that america is not fair. they could have squashed this early on but they didn't. >> there were previous examples of black men who were unarmed and killed by white officers. >> but that's the exception. >> there is a guy who was african-american and arrested in the case of mistaken identity and they charged him with destruction of property because he bled on their uniforms when they beat hem.
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there are circumstances like that. if you have karen wilson talks about that area is anti-police, hostile territory. i think in the same way that weather can contribute to a plane crash, i think there was an atmosphere that preceded these two encountering each other on that street. >> people in the neighborhood have described it as a perfect storm. i want you to see this is something that a singer said on the ferguson issue. he told in ebony magazine, the boy was walking in the middle of the street when the police reportedly told him to get the eff on the sidewalk. if you don't listen to that after just having pushed a store owner, you're asking for trouble but you're not asking to be
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killed. some of these youth feel hunted and preyed upon and that's why the office needs to be uponished. that seems like he is making a distinction between what happened before and what he believes people genuinely feel in the neighborhood in the community. >> i acknowledged that before. that is a legitimate real tension and we need that conversation but that is separate from what happened that day. clearly michael brown was disrespectful of authority. he had no problem assaulting a police officer. that is a felony in the end if he was in the commission of a possible arrest, and that officer had been hit, punched in the face, reaching for his gun. dna was on the gun.
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michael brown was shot that day because of his own actions. >> it is in dispute. you say in your article you talk about the fact that the police officer if he was somebody who knew the community would have been able to tell -- >> may have been able to tell. >> that michael brown was not somebody that was out to get him or a troublemaker or there was something that he could have done? >> first of all, i think that it's probably started out with a nasty exchange, the encounter. that set the tone. when the cop backed up, they sought two police officers leave that store. they told themselves that he didn't call the police. when they had a third encounter, i think they probably thought it was an extension of the nasty exchange and that was the tone of it. if he didn't respect authority, why not?
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>> all right. >> that's the larger question. i think that's -- >> i have got to say we all owe his parents a great debt by the way they handled this. >> and obviously people in the community want to do that. they are calling for that. we have got leave it here. we're going to talk about it you have got to find a positive way to move forward. >> a 13-year-old boy missing for four years found behind a hidden wall. police are now revealing new details about the strange case.
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>> the u.s. led coalition ramped up attacks overnight on what has become the capital of the militant islamic group isis. 30 air strikes were reported in syria. extremists have made a city the headquarters of their so-called islamic state, training fighters and storing weapons there. meanwhile in turkey, pope francis wrapped up a weekend visit where the pontiff condemned the bar baric violence
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by isis. it means showing contempt for the image of god which is in man. john allen is in rome and he is on the phone to talk more about the pope's visit. first of all, put this in context here. this visit comes at a time of quite turmoil inside of that country. you have got isis camped out. more than a million islamic refugees and now worries that the country's leaders will move away from maintaining turkey as a secular state. did he come here because all of that is happening all at once? >> well, the official reason for the pope's trip actually had nothing to do with any of that. the fact is that today was the
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feast of st. andrew. the pope was here to promote closer styes between catholics and ort dock christians. as a matter of fact, the pope came in part to deliver a very sharp challenge to try to press harder on the issue of religious freedom. the protection of christians across the middle east. the pope revealed that in his
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private conversation on friday, he basically laid down a challenge and said that muslim -- moderate mus lidge leaders not just clerics but politicians and academics ought to issue a condemnation that is a sweeping condemnation committed in the name of islam. so i think it is quite clear that the pope had isis, the pope had the persecution of christians across the middle east and the broader sort of struggle for the soul that we see unfolding in the islamic world on his mind during his trip to turkey which was his third to a majority muslim nation. >> okay, john. >> which i think in and of itself is also an indication of how concerned he is with this issue. >> thank you, john. appreciate it very much. new information emerging about a georgia couple accused of
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keeping a young boy captive in their home for four yours. police found the boy yesterday after he texted that he was hidden in a secret space above the garage. atlanta affiliate has the disturbing betails. >> 37-year-old gregory jean and 42-year-old samantha davis are charged with false imprisonment and child cruelty for keeping a 12-year-old boy captive inside their home. he reunited with his mother after four years with lots of hugs and many tears. we learned davis is also accused of hitting the boy with a stick on legs and backside. she shook her head and looked confused. jean spoke up in court when the judge brought up a previous arrest from 2006. >> i have never been in jail in my life before.
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he said the previous case was dismissed because of mistaken identity. >> that was not me. they had the wrong person. >> but davis has been convicted before of child cruelty and still on probation from a case in henry country and not even eligible for bond. gregory jr. is okay and now reconnecting with family. he was able to text his family in florida. police discovered him in a small attic space above the garage that was hidden. >> that is so sad. the next court date for the father and stepmother is set for december 9. >> the race is on now to find a cure for ebola. early tests are promising. how close are we to a vaccine? [ male announcer ] this is the cat that drank the milk... [ meows ]
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>> it's still early in the testing phase but the first human trial of an spaermtal ebola vaccine has produced what scientists are calling promising results. all 20 adults who received the vaccine in a trial overseen developed anti-ebola anti-bodies and no one suffered serious side effects. happy holidays here.
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this is a bit of good news. for the first time this trial shows promising results. what is this next step in developing a successful vaccinati vaccination? >> the first step that you just mentioned is the determining if it's safe and it is. there were no serious adverse events and whether it produces the response that could be predicted. that's the good news of the first face. so sometime likely in mid january we will do a much larger trial and many, many people in west africa to determine if these promising early results actually spell out to be a vaccine that works. >> this question comes up all
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the time when you talk about trial vaccinations. whether this will contain ebola and whether or not somebody could get ebola from the vaccine. >> that's impossible. what we're injecting is not the live virus into the people. it can induce in your body an immune response that hopefully will protect you against ebola if and when you get exposed to it. >> what is the biggest hurdle that you have to get across before you can give something like this to the general public? >> the biggest hurdle is does it work and is it safe when you give it to a large number of people? so the big question, the bottom
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line will be determined by the much larger trial to determine if it actually works. >> if this fax seen is successful, what is the process in dding who gets this and who gets this first and who doesn't get it? >> it would be distributed certainly to all the health care workers. all of the people in that area. in fact when you have an outbreak in a city, if it works this could be widespread. >> it is at least a start and a hope and it is good news for that. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> you're quite welcome. >> coming up, one cnn anchor
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finds out why he should not quit his day job. >> all right. that's the warning there. taking a trip around the world with our own don lemon as he goes on a search to find his roots. and ah, so you can see like right here i can just... you know, check my policy here, add a car, ah speak to customer service, check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool. well, i would disagree with you but, ah, that would make me a liar. no dude, you're on the jumbotron! whoa. ah...yeah, pretty much walked into that one. geico anywhere anytime. just a tap away on the geico app.
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and friends. so we wanted to visit with one of our own. don lemon knew nothing about the people who came before him so he set off to find his roots. i's a journey that begins in the hometown of port allen, louisiana. ♪ >> so one of the favorite questions i like to ask my guests is who do you think you are? so now i'm getting to answer that question. growing up in port allen, here it is. i grew up in the country. and i loved it. this little brown curly haired kid with big teeth and big ears and who grew into his looks, ha ha ha. what am i doing? am i rolling? i left louisiana in my 20s and never really looked back.
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now i'm going home to find my roots to learn more about my family tree, the people who are so much a part of who i am today. >> come on over here. >> i don't want to see y'all, i just want to eat. >> come on, come on come on. >> hey, mother. >> hi! >> i think i still owe them something. >> i spent so many years chasing a dream and chasing a career and missing birthday parties and anniversaries and graduations and babies being born and because of this i have had to reconnect more with my family and talk with my family and what's better than that? may father died when i was 9, so i was raised by my mom who worked and by her mom, my grandmother. >> my mom is my best friend now. my grandmother was my buddy. i can't wait to find out more about her because i think she's the lynch pen. i think about her all the time.
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i have dreams about her. she's still alive and then i wake up. and she's not there any more. and i remember that she's not there. she made me who i am. she is the one who instilled pride in me. >> i don't know much about who came before my grandmother. she did tell me her mom, katherine jackson, died in childbirth. she didn't know much about her dad except his name, harry, and that he was white. i always wished i asked my grand mur more about thm. so i asked ancestry.com to dig through the record books to see what she could find. >> why don't we start by you telling me about your grandmother or your mother?
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>> she was a very nice, very good mother. >> she was very outspoken. >> very outspoken. >> all i ever knew is that her mother died in childbirth and her dad was -- >> she just didn't talk about it? >> just didn't talk about it that much. may daddy didn't like it that much. >> because harry because white? >> and the way he was with her. like a secret because you're white and she's black. >> this is him in 1910. he is married. this is his wife. what this looks like is part of the reason why he wanted to keep mary henrietta quiet is because he was married. he and odele never had any children whochlt got the house? >> he did. >> he bought it and gave it to her? >> uh-huh. >> this is someone that he's -- he cares for and is trying to
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provide for in his own way. you didn't know that he had done that. >> i never knew that. my mom said she saved the money to buy it. >> i'm sure she had her ways. >> ways. >> that's a family thing. ways. >> this is an interesting page, too. harry rivault here. he was an overseer of a plantation. >> the main plantation in west baton rouge is sinclair and it's likely this is where harry and katherine jackson met. and it's also likely that the plantation is where your mother was born. and where katherine died. >> i had grown up in the shadow of sinclair plantation but had never been there and certainly
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never imagined that i had a personal connection to it but if that's where my great father worked, great grandmother died and great grandmother was born, i want to see it for myself. >> right now we are walking along what is known as manager's row. >> so who lived on this row? >> harry. harry like lived his life in one of these houses and walked up and down these streets to and from work every day. this is a turn of the century map of cinclaire. this is the management. and this is negro quarters. so the layout in the past 100 years has not changed at all. and it gives you an idea of where katherine might have lived and where harry might have lived. i have another document. this is his obituary in the state times advocate, third of march, 1941.
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>> funeral of harry rivault was held sunday afternoon. he had been in ill health for several months killed himself by placing a 12 gauge pump gun to his head and pulling the trigger. the coroner jury brought in a verdict of suicide. >> i wond why why he shot himself in the head. >> it's gruesome. >> it is pretty gruesome. imagine how much pain you have to be in to do that. >> i never knew him yet finding out my great grandfather killed himself is disquieting. it hangs heavy. but it is part of my story just like this sugar cane plantation where my great grandmother worked for wages doing the same work that her grandparents did as slaves. kirby has been harvesting cane
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here. >> if you worked on a plantation you would be there what? >> sun up to sun down. >> this is hard work. >> it was. >> show me how you did it. >> i would cut the top, throw it over. if you were cutting cane a long time ago they would fire you. >> because i'm cutting it too high? >> i yeah you got to cut it dow to the ground. >> you would see skinny people in those days. they used to work so hard. >> i wonder if the slaves had to work even harder finding out about them is like fighting through a brick wall but michelle won't rest. coming up, see what she has found that leads me half way across the world in search of my roots.
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so we're in a building that's very contemporary to the time of when your ancestors lived here as well. and we want to talk about moses jackson. so here's a pedigree. >> all right. >> so this is your grandmother, and this is your great-gra great-grandmother, catherine, and her father, james. so moses and catherine are your third great-grandparents. katherine, were maiden name was woods. we don't know who her father was, but there's a candidate. his name was clemence woods. this is an 1880 census. this says he was born in louisiana and his father was born africa. born in 1812. based on clemens' age and what his father's age could have been, anywhere from about 1767
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to 1792 is when he could have been born in africa. >> he's without a name, age, or face, but he's my connection to africa. i wonder about his passage to america, his journey, his struggle. my answers lie 8,000 miles away in ghana, one of the hubs of the trans-atlantic slave trade. it's hard to believe a place so beautiful and so full of life had such a dark past. a historian was about to show me just how dark. >> this was constructed in around 1792. it was designed for 1,000 people. >> in here? >> yes. >> can you imagine being this dark? >> stayed here for about three months on average, work in this darkness, yes.
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>> it felt like a descent into hell. dece i can't believe people walked down that path, walked through here and spent months in here if you survived. >> this was a dungeon for the -- >> but it was dark in here. >> it was dark in here. right. they were held here in chains. you see the hole on the wall? the holes on the wall. were held in chains. the floor now -- removed much of the coverings on the floor. feces, blood. decomposed bodies. clothes. food. vomit. sweat. and tears. >> i kept looking for places to escape and there was no escape. the only escape was either you
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had to survive, become a slave, or you escaped through death. >> we are about a enter a religious site. >> before leaving the dungeons, we lit a candle in memory of the slaves who passed through these harrowing halls. >> we're survivors. >> yep. survivor spirit. >> door of no return. >> door of no return. through this door, they left behind the known for the unknown. >> then you walked through the door of no return.
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>> door of return. in 1988, two bodies of ex-slaves were resumed in america and jamaica. they were brought back through this door to reverse the trend of no return. >> i was thinking there, i just can't hold it in anymore. i wake up every day, my life is like a dream. every day, i feel like i'm dreaming. i have such a wonderful life. i am so blessed and so fortunate. i want all those people who think that they can't survive and all these people who say, i can't do this, i can't do that, i want to show people that that isn't true. you can do whatever you want. >> so on behalf of the government and people of this country, it's my pleasure to welcome you back. >> who do i think i am? i know that i'm a survivor and i came from a group of people who are survivors. did you enjoy the trip? >> i loved it. i'm so glad i came.
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and it's so beautiful here. >> it is. glad you came. thanks. >> i'm happy you talked me into it. >> i love you, mom. >> i love you, too. >> a beautiful story. breaking news in the search for the missing ohio state university football player. his body has been found. sad news, but now questions, too, remaining for the police. his friends and family. we have thoseahead. plus ray rice, the controversial football player won his case against the nfl, but will any team take a chance on him? also the president's daughters come under attack from one republican. it's all coming up after the break. oil...or cream?
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hello, i'm suzanne malveaux. we begin this hour with breaking news, and it is dad news, indeed. police in columbus, ohio, have now found the body of a missing ohio state university football player. the victim of an apparent suicide. kosta karagorge hadn't been seen since 2:00 a.m. wednesday. he had complained about concussion symptoms and how they left him confused. our rosa flores has been following the story and joins us. there was a news conferenc
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