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north korea. is kim jong-un's regime taking revenge online? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we're following the breaking news. president obama discussing the ferguson fallout right now over at the white house. he's meeting today with officials and activists among a wave of new protests across the country. at least 60 separate walkouts today protesting the grand jury decision not to charge the police officer who shot and killed michael brown. officer darren wilson has now resigned from the ferguson police department. we're covering all angles of the story this hour with our correspondents, our guests across the nation, including the lawyer for michael brown's family, benjamin crump. he's standing by live. but we begin in ferguson right now. cnn's george howell is there for us. george, what's the latest on these walkouts? >> reporter: we know that protesters here in ferguson called for a day of walkouts and

around the country, we have seen that play out. here in ferguson, the city itself, it has been quiet for the most part, except for a meeting that's playing out here behind me, commissioned by the governor. we're starting to hear public opinion. it's starting to get heated. you get a sense that the frustration and the anger remain. across the country, protests continue one week after a grand jury decided not to indict officer darren wilson. in washington, d.c., they blocked the streets. >> for them to be inconvenienced for 20 minutes is only a testament to how the lives of black people are stopped every day. >> reporter: some even gathered in solidarity outside the justice department. from coast to coast, there have been walkouts. during sunday's nfl game in st. louis, five rams players staged their own protest as they took to the field.

acknowledge the events in ferguson -- >> reporter: all displaying the hands up, don't shoot pose, widely adopted by supporters of michael brown. >> as they ran out onto the field -- >> reporter: but the st. louis police officers association condemned the action. >> let's not diminish what the show of hands meant. it's accusing a brother police officer of executing a young man in cold blood. friends of law enforcement from across the country were calling me last night. >> we have now severed ties with officer darren wilson. >> reporter: as for officer darren wilson, he will not be in a ferguson police uniform. he resigned, saying the risk of more violence prompted his decision and that he hopes his resignation will help allow the community to heal. >> the city of ferguson will not be making a severance payment to officer wilson. >> reporter: ferguson's mayor announced new initiatives to help heal the rift between police and the community, including a scholarship program to recruit more african-american police officers.

so as we continue to monitor this meeting, we'll go back there and see what people have to say. i can tell you some people are asking that question, what happens next with darren wilson? we spoke with his attorneys and they tell us that wilson is looking to possibly go back to school. it's not concrete yet. but we do know that at this point he remains in hiding, wolf, after a week of unrest and riots. >> we'll speak to two of his attorneys later here in "the situation room." george, thanks very much. george howell on the ground for us in ferguson. let's get more now on those white house meetings that are unfolding right now. our white house correspondent michelle kosinski is joining us. michelle, what do we know about these meetings? i take it we're standing by to hear directly from the president momentarily? >> reporter: right. he had a day of meetings, three of them, lasted all day, first with his cabinet and then young civil rights leaders, then a larger group meeting with community and faith leaders from around the country, also law

enforcement. and the goal is to try to find ways to build trust between local police officers and communities. the white house sees that as being really one of the root causes of the continued unrest in places like ferguson. what the president announced today, what they want to do is first of all a task force to look at policing in america. again, issues of trust. they also want to ask congress for more money, more than $260 million, to increase training of local police and purchase some 50,000 police body cameras in the hopes at least of helping to answer some of those questions that in situations like ferguson oftentimes go completely unanswered. also they want to take a closer look into a review that they've already commissioned, the results of which came out today, into federal money and military equipment going to local police departmen departments. $18 billion worth. nearly half a million pieces of military equipment over the last

five years, like more than 5,000 humvees, tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition, aircraft. that's contributed to what some see as the militarization of local police departments. the white house isn't going so far as to say they feel like that contributed to the problems we saw after the ferguson shooting. but they want to take a closer look at it because what their review has found so far is a glaring lack of consistency in these federal programs, as well as training and community input into using some of this equipment, wolf. >> any idea, any word yet if the president will go to ferguson, if he does, will he meet with michael brown's family? >> reporter: that's a great question. this question has been asked of the president since the shooting took place. at this point, the white house says again and again that the president has no plans to do that. but the white house is still looking into that possibility. but that raised other questions. we asked today, is the president afraid that his going there would just escalate the situation further?

they said, no. they're just waiting for the right moment to decide if the president will make that decision, make that trip personally, wolf. >> michelle, i know the president's about to speak out on what's going on in ferguson, the fallout. we'll have coverage of that. that's coming up in the next few minutes. michelle kosinski over at the white house. let's get more now on the executive action president obama's planning on taking in the wake of the ferguson arrests. you're looking at these pictures coming in from the justice department outside the justice department here in washington, d.c. take a look at some of the protests that have been going on outside the justice department now for the past several hours. these are live pictures coming in right now. our justice reporter, evan perez, is working this part of the story for us. evan, first of all, on the so-called militarization of local law enforcement, the president made some announcements today. what's going on? >> i think there was a lot of concern after the police response. it was very heavily criticized in august. you saw police in camouflage on

the streets of the st. louis suburbs. that issue appears to have been a dud. if you read between the lines of this white house report that was issued today, it's clear that the white house really is not touching these programs, $18 billion worth of equipment that's been transferred. most of it is like back offensive equipment. the white house is trying to decide how to perhaps make some improvements to these programs and that includes better training to make sure people understand -- police officers understand about civil rights and civil liberties. but they're not really going to touch these programs, even in congress where there was some effort to change these programs, that issue has kind of died out. >> the humvees, the other military equipment, the hardware, which was criticized, that's basically more or less continued? >> it's going to continue. and when people saw those pictures, what they didn't realize is that that's standard equipment for s.w.a.t. teams nowadays. what i think is going to happen

is you're going to see more training for police officers so they don't use this sort of warri warrior mentality and get to know the people they're trying to protect. >> these protests, these are live pictures coming from outside the justice department. they've been going on now for the past several hours. >> right. i think what you hear from people here in the justice department, in law enforcement, there are ways to improve the way cops do their job. clearly there's an issue. that's what they need to focus on, better training, which is really what the problem was in ferguson. >> evan perez, thanks very much. we'll continue to monitor what's happening outside the justice department and monitor what's happening in new york city, chicago, all over the country right now. let's get more on what's going on. joining us, the michael brown family attorney, benjamin crump. mr. crump, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me, wolf. >> you've heard the slogans, hands up, walk out, protests being held across the country,

including here in e nation's capital. you speak to the brown family all the time. what do they want to immerge out of all of these protests? >> they want to prevent this from happening to anyone else's child. we want to see positive change come from something so negative. and certainly they have been consistent with wanting this proposal for the michael brown law, the police officers wearing body cameras across every city in america to prevent this from happening because it will be transparency. people will see what's happening and you won't have this aftermath of their son's death of what played out in ferguson. >> does the brown family want the president of the united states to come to ferguson? >> well, they want the president of the united states to try to use his platform to make

substantive change that will make policing in every community in america be one that people can have faith in and trust in. so if he comes to ferguson, i'm sure they will receive him. but if not, they understand that he has the position where he can help make tremendous change that we've never seen before in the way -- but also with the grand jury system that i've said over and again is broken and needs to be indicted and changed so we will have police officers held accountable if they illegally kill young people of color. >> has the president been in direct touch with the brown family? >> no, the attorney general, eric holder, has been speaking on his behalf to the brown family. >> would it be appropriate if the president did come to ferguson for him to sit down with the brown family? i raise the question only because you're a lawyer, you

understand, there are two justice departments, two federal investigations still under way. would that be seen as interfering in those two separate justice department investigations? >> wolf, i'm not sure about that. but the larger implications here is that michael brown has become symbolic of numerous young people of color who have been kill killed, many believe unjustifiably across america over and over again. so this issue has illuminated that issue, this epidemic of sorts, of young people of color -- especially little black and brown boys being killed by police officers and some very questionable events and never being held accountable because you have this prosecutor who's local who knows the police who stands to decide whether to indict him or not. and it's just not happening. so we have to take a serious look at that, wolf, to make sure we don't keep doing the same

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following breaking news out of the white house right now. president obama discussing the ferguson fallout in a series of meetings with officials and activists from around the country. within the next moment or so, we're going to be hearing directly from the president. he's got a statement to make on what's going on, the ferguson fallout. we're standing by also to get reaction, benjamin crump is joining us, the michael brown family attorney. we only have a few seconds before the president starts, mr. crump. is there anything special you would like to hear from the president? >> just the fact that they are taking it very seriously and they want to make sure that something happens from all this emotion, all this concern about

the issue. and the issue being policing in minority communities and how we can make it better. conci concisely, wolf, we want this proposed michael brown legislation where police officers are going to be required to have video body cameras so it can be transparent when they have interactions with citizens. >> like there are dash cameras on police patrol cars. there's now the technology that would allow police officers all over the united states to walk around with a body camera that would document, if you will, what was going on if the police did something inappropriate and if they didn't do anything inappropriate. that's a serious subject on the agenda. we're about to hear right now from the president, mr. crump. stand by. we'll get your reaction as soon as he's done speaking. here he is. >> as i said last week in the wake of the grand jury decision,

i think ferguson laid bare a problem that is not unique to st. louis or that area and is not unique to our time. and that is a simmering distrust that exists between too many police departments and too many communities of color. the sense that in a country where one of our basic principles, perhaps the most important principle, is equality under the law that too many individuals, particularly young people of color, do not feel as if they are being treated fairly. and as i said last week, when any part of the american family does not feel like it is being treated fairly, that's a problem for all of us.

it's not just a problem for some. it's not just a problem for a particular community or a particular demographic. it means that we are not as strong as a country as we can be. and when applied to the criminal justice system, it means we're not as effective in fighting crime as we could be. and as a consequence, what i've been able to do today, thanks to excellent work by eric holder, our attorney general who had to fly down to atlanta to start a conversation down there around these issues, as well as the outstanding leaders around this table, is to begin a process in which we're able to surface an honest conversation between law enforcement, community activists, academics, elected officials, the faith community, to try to determine what the

problems are and most importantly try to come up with concrete solutions that can move the ball forward. one of the most powerful things that happened today was i had the opportunity to meet with some young people, including a couple of young outstanding leaders from the ferguson community, britney and rasheem, who both served on the ferguson committee, live in the area and i think have been hearing from a lot of young people in that area. and what made me concerned was the degree to which they feel as if they are not heard or that the reality of what they experience has been denied, what made me greatly encouraged was how clear their voices were when they were heard and how constructive they are in wanting to solve these problems. and i think anybody who had a chance to listen to them here

today felt the same way. we also heard from law enforcement and were reminded of what a tough job it is to be in law enforcement, whether you're in a big city or in a small community, as eric holder put it, police officers have the right to come home. and if they're in dangerous circumstances, we have to be able to put ourselves in their shoes and recognize that they do have a tough job. i don't think those realities are irreconcilable. in fact, i'm convinced that if we work hard, that we can make sure that police officers and the communities they serve are partners in battling crime, partners in making sure everybody feels safe, that we can build confidence and we can build trust. but it's not going to happen overnight. and it's not going to result just from a conversation around a table in washington.

it's got to result in concrete steps that we are able to lift up in communities all around the country and institutionalize. in order to advance that goal, here are a couple of specific steps we're taking. first of all, i want to thank chuck ramsey, the commissioner of the philadelphia police department, as well as lori robinson who is professor of criminology, law and society at george mason university and former assistant attorney general. they are going to co-chair a task force that is not only going to reach out and listen to law enforcement, community activists, other stakeholders, but is going to report to me specifically in 90 days with concrete recommendations, including best practices for

communities where law enforcement and neighborhoods are working well together, how do they create accountability, how do they create transparency and how do they create trust, and how can we at the federal level work with state and local communities to make sure that some of those best practices get institutionalized? so this is not going to be an endless report that ends up collecting dust on a shelf. my expectation is concrete recommendations that we can begin to operationalize both at the federal, state and local levels. and the good news is we have two folks who are respected by activists and respected by law enforcement. and i'm confident their going to do an outstanding job. i want them to help us make sure that crime continues to go down while community trust in the police goes up. second, one of the issues that

came up during the response to ferguson back in august was the issue of military equipment being utilized in the face of protests that may be taking place in the community. it raised a broader issue as to whether we are militarizing domestic law enforcement unnecessarily. and is the federal government facilitating that? i have now received a review that i had ordered from all the agencies involved in this program, the 1033 program. i will be signing an executive order that specifies how we are going to make sure that that program is accountable, how we're going to make sure that that program is transparent and how are we going to make sure that we're not building a militarized culture inside our local law enforcement. third, i'm going to be proposing some new community policing

initiatives that will significantly expand funding and training for local law enforcement, including up to 50,000 additional body-worn cameras for law enforcement agencies. and i look forward to working with congress to make sure that in addition to what i can do administratively and with resources that we've already got, that we are in a conversation with law enforcement that wants to do the right thing to make sure that they're adequately resourced for the training and the technology that can enhance trust between communities and the police. and finally, as i mentioned, eric holder is going to be working in parallel with the task force to convene a series of these meetings all across the country because this is not a problem simply of ferguson, missouri. this is a problem that is national. it is a solvable problem. but it is one that unfortunately

spikes after one event and then fades into the background until something else happens. what we need is a sustained conversation in which in each region of the country, people are talking about this honestly and then can move forward in a constructive fashion. let me just close by saying this. there was a cautionary note, i think, from everybody here that there have been commissions before, there have been task forces, there have been conversations and nothing happens. what i try to describe to people is why this time it will be different. and part of the reason this time it will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested to making sure that this time is different. when i hear the young people around this table talk about

their experiences, it violates my belief in what america can be. to hear young people feeling marginalized and distrustful even after they've done everything right, that's not who we are. and i don't think that's who the overwhelming majority of americans want us to be. and i think there may be a convergence here what we've got outstanding law enforcement officials who recognize that times have changed and want to be responsive. i know that richard berry of the international societies from the chiefs of police spoke about how eager they are to work with us. i think that we have activists on the ground who don't always get attention because it's oftentimes people who aren't

being constructed to get attention. but there are folks there who are working really hard. i think there's a maturity of the conversation right now that can lead us to actually getting some concrete results. and in the two years i have remaining as president, i'm going to make sure that we follow through, not to solve every problem, not to tear down every barrier of mistrust that may exist. but to make things better. and that's how progress is always made in this great country of ours. thank you very much, everybody. thank you very much, jonathan. thank you very much. appreciate you guys. thank you all. >> so there you have the president meeting with a group of officials and activists, reporters obviously shouting some questions. president making a lengthy,

lengthy statement but declining to answer reporters' questions, at least at this event, the man sitting next to the president, charles ramsey, police commissioner in philadelphia. used to be the police commissioner here in washington, d.c. he's going to be co-chairing this new commission that the president is setting up to go out there and study what's going on. let's get some reaction, benjamin crump is still with us. he's an attorney representing michael brown's family. what's your reaction? what did you think of what we just heard from the president, mr. crump? >> i think it's encouraging, wolf. he talked about some deliberate things we can do to try to advance this mature conversation that we need to have like the task force, like having stakeholders in play. i know as an attorney representing 25 families involved in police shootings of brutality where their family members were killed, those are some of the stakeholders -- the national bar association, the largest association of lawyers

of color represent many more families and i know the hispanic bar association also is a stakeholder representing many hispanic young boys are who have had negative interactions with law enforcement that needs to be at the table to discuss the risks, the serious problem, the real problem, wolf. some people act like there's not a problem that exists. they don't know what it's like to have your children have an interaction with the police and they are good, clean-cut kids who have never had involvement with police but yet they're slammed against police cars, slammed on the ground and for the rest of their life, they never see the police quite the same way they did before. most families don't have to worry about that. but minority families, they worry every day not just that their kid won't be killed by a criminal but that their kid won't be killed by police.

you know, young person of color, male, 15 to 19, has a 2,100% chance of being killed by the police than any other ethnic demographic. and so we have to deal with this because these are our children. and so i think the president is hitting the right chord to try to move it forward. >> i don't know if you heard, but one of the reporters shouting a question to the president about the police officer, darren wilson, stepping down. the president clearly didn't want to say anything about his feelings about wilson. does that upset you at all? should he have said something? >> well, i don't think we can criticize him for not speaking on every issue involving this, there are thousands of issues. i think he hit on the ones he needed to hit on. i think with the police officer resigning, he did what was in his best interest both personally and professionally.

and i think when you talk about being effective in the ferguson community with the ferguson police department in the aftermath of killing this unarmed teenager, it would have been problematic. >> the president talking about a simmering distrust. he knows there have been a lot of presidential commissions. he promises this one will be different. he says because the president of the united states will make sure this commission is different than so many other commissions that have been created over the -- >> we hope so. >> mr. crump, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> benjamin crump, attorney representing michael brown's family. we're following this new wave of ferguson protests across the country right now. we have much more coming up. including the lawyer for the now former police officer darren wilson. he's going to be joining us live as well. plus, the fbi warning u.s. troops about social media and a new isis terror threat right here at home.

we're continuing to follow today's nationwide protests, walkouts in cities across the united states. wilson has now resigned from the ferguson police department. i'll be speaking with his lawyer in just a few minutes. but first, u.s. troops are being warned they may, repeat, may face a new terror threat right here on u.s. soil. our justice correspondent, pamela brown, is working the story for us. what are you finding out, pamela? >> reporter: we're finding out that there's a warning sent out by the fbi and dhs. and this latest one is so alarming because it indicates isis members are not only urging

attacks on americans but are seeking out home-grown terrorists on u.s. soil. tonight, the fbi and homeland security have issued a warning to the u.s. military telling them isis members are spotting and assessing like-minded individuals currently living in the u.s. who may be able to carry out attacks against them. >> the new phenomenon that i see that i'm very concerned about is somebody who's never met another member of that terrorist organization, never trained at one of the camps, who is simply inspired by the social media, the literature, the propaganda, the message to commit an act of violence in this country. >> reporter: this latest bulletin sent overnight warns u.s. soldiers to be extra cautious about posting identifiable pictures and information on social media, anything that would make them easy targets for isis-inspired terrorists. >> tons of people don't think

through exactly what sort of information they're providing online and in their social media that has gps material, that has friends, contacts and others, family members that in the hands of those that wish us harm could be really dangerous. >> reporter: law enforcement sources say the bulletin was sent out now in advance of the upcoming holiday season when many members of the u.s. military travel in uniform at a time of year terrorists want to attack the u.s. >> clearly if you're in the shoes of isis, you would like to instill fear and panic during this time frame. >> reporter: why do you think it's just military personnel in this case? >> why our military? they're our heroes. >> reporter: similar warnings have recently been sent to military members and law enforcement personnel out of a growing concern of lone wolf attacks in the u.s. but sources say this latest bulletin is based on renewed efforts by isis to attack u.s. troops. adding to concern, attacks in canada, including the shooting

last month where a gunman killed a soldier and then opened fire in parliament. i've been speaking to law enforcement officials today. they tell me as isis continues its social media campaign, we could see a lone wolf attack in the u.s. that's the big concern. and it's very hard for law enforcement to detect and stop before it happens. >> certainly is. it worries them greatly. pamela, thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now. joining us, our cnn law enforcement analyst, the former fbi assistant director, tom fuentes, and bob baer and peter bergen. bob, how should members of the u.s. military respond to this latest warning, if you will, should they hide their affiliation, wear only civilian clothing when they're walking around in public? what do you think? >> well, i take this threat seriously, wolf. it's a logical threat for isis.

they want to redefine the conflict that they are fighting, we are the so-called crusaders and hitting people in military would give them a lot of propaganda value. they should avoid congregating, they should avoid getting online, as they've been advised not to do, coming out of base, they should be watchful. and the fbi will be looking through social media and the rest of it looking for potential attackers. but, again, this is the strength of weak links, these people are unknowns to the fbi and those are most likely the ones to get through. >> peter, do you agree with that analysis and should members of the u.s. military, even if their personal, private postings online with their facebook or twitter, should they mention where they are, where they're going, stuff like that? >> i think people should take reasonable precautions. but the u.s. military is a giant institution and you can't get everybody to exactly follow some sort of directive. the interesting fact here, wolf, is that for about a quarter of the cases since 9/11, people

motivated by jihadi militant beliefs have either attacked or tried to attack military targets. two out of three successful "terrorist attacks" in the post-9/11, one was in fort hood and another in arkansas. but this is not news to the military. there's been a lot of concern about this since at least fort hood which after all was five years ago. >> tom, take us behind the scenes. the fbi issues a bulletin like this giving warnings out there to u.s. men and women of the united states military. it's a big deal for them to issue a warning like this. >> right. they're trying not to issue a warning every other week just so people will take it seriously. but additional concern here is people at home take pictures using their smartphones or modern cameras which record gps coordinates into the picture. and so if they post that on

social media and say, here we are welcoming our father home from afghanistan and they're taking pictures in the home, it's telling the bad guys where they live. it's telling them where to come get them. so that's among the concerns, that social media can identify specific locations that way. >> it's sad that we even have to worry about this kind of stuff in this day and age. but clearly the fbi is deeply concerned right now. guys, stand by. there's other news we're following as well including new suspicions north korea may be behind a cyberattack that has some of the year's biggest movies free. it's more than the driver. it's more than the car. for lotus f1 team, the competitive edge is the cloud.

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experience at the pentagon may be president obama's choice to lead the fight against isis. barbara starr has new details about the man who may, repeat, may be the next defense secretary. what are you learning? >> reporter: wolf, it now looks like a man named ashton carter is the man who may replace chuck hagel. he was the top weapons buyer here at the pentagon. he knows budgets. he knows weapons. he has been involved in strategy. the big issue will be, of course, can he deal with the so-called micromanagement by the white house? will he have enough innovation

to offer new ideas? will he be listened to? he's quite an interesting man. he has a university degree in medieval history and he's also got a degree in theoretical physics. >> and a lot of officials at the white house think that he can be confirmed by the republican-led senate next year. we're continuing to monitor today's protests over the events in ferguson, missouri. i'll speak live with the attorneys for darren wilson. he's now the former police officer who shot and killed michael brown. but we're also following another major crime story, a computer attack and theft of some of the biggest movies of the year. get this, sony pictures is set to be looking at whether north korea is to blame. cnn's brian todd is following this story for us. brian, what are you learning? >> this upcoming film "the interview" is a comedy about

assassinating kim jong-un. tonight, tony is still dealing with a cyber attack and a possible north korean connection. >> i have a gift for you. >> oh, the dog is killing me. >> he's crazy cute. >> reporter: in the movie, two talk show hosts are recruited by the cia to assassinate kim jong-il. >> the cia would love if you could take him out. >> huh? >> take him out. >> for coffee? >> reporter: when the north koreans got record of the production, they called it terrorism, and vowed a strong countermeasure. now questions about possible retaliation. sony pictures is dealing with a massive cyber attack. corporate e-mails have been crippled and screener copies of five sony movies have been

posted on illicit websites. "the interview" is not one of the movies hacked. >> for an entity like sony, those movies are the keys to the kingdom. >> reporter: the website reports sony is exploring the possibility that hackers working for north korea could be behind the attack. a north korean official at the u.n. would not comment and a group calling itself the guardians of peace said it perpetrated the hack. could north korea even carry out such a sophisticated attack? >> they have the ability to tap into resources, but they can buy hackers on demand. >> reporter: experts say kim jong-un, like his father, is a voracious consumer of western movies. but that doesn't mean they can take a joke. >> when they see themselves being ridiculed, it must hurt

them more than a sanction by the united states or by the u.n. security council. >> reporter: this attack is still not over. sony is still working to connect some systems. sony would only say this is a criminal matter and they're working with law enforcement to address it. the fbi confirms it is investigating the sony hack. meanwhile, sony is likely to lose millions of dollars this holiday season from people viewing illegal downloads rather than going to theaters. >> you've got nanother example f north koreans monitoring western news media. >> reporter: when i explained who i was and worked for, he said yes, i know your name and face. they monitor the western media constantly, especially stories about them. >> this was a north korean official here at the united nations. >> they are said to be voracious consumers. >> brian, thank you very much

for that report. coming up, dozens of protests today across the united states one week after ferguson exploded in rioting. we have new details of the nationwide walkouts. and we'll talk to two lawyers for darren wilson who has resigned from the ferguson police department. they're standing by live to join us, the two lawyers.

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move? the man who shot and killed michael brown has quit the ferguson police force. i'll ask his lawyers about his future and whether his family is in any danger right now. plus, a new warning for u.s. troops that isis may be plotting to attack them right here on american soil. stand by for new details. and a senior republican staffer pays a big price for an online rant about the president's daughters. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news this hour, we just heard president obama promise to follow through to try to ease the anger and the distrust we've seen in ferguson, missouri and across the united states. dozens of new protests were held around the country today in solidarity with the people of ferguson and the slain teenager michael brown. it's been exactly a week since a grand jury decided not to indict

darren wilson. the former ferguson police officer who shot and killed brown. the president has been focusing in on the ferguson backlash all day long in a series of meetings at the white house. listen to some of his remarks just a little while ago. >> when i tried to describe the people is why this time will be different, and part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested in making sure that this time is different. >> we have our correspondents, our analysts and newsmakers all standing by to cover the big stories developing right now. first, let's go to michelle kosinski. >> reporter: you have this deep involvement of this administration in ferguson. the multiple investigations and statements. thousands of phone calls and meetings since this happened. but at the same time the president still doesn't have plans to go there.

so it is obvious the white house sees this as a very delicate balance. today, here all day, the focus was on ferguson. the fact that the emotion, demonstration has spread well beyond ferguson, missouri -- >> day after day. >> reporter: today, walkouts and protests from california to new york. a die-in outside the justice department. the st. louis rams angering police but unapologetic and unpunished over their handing up statement on the field sunday. officer darren wilson, who shot michael brown, has now resigned. his lawyer says there were serious threats to their safety. the white house knows this is an issue with a far deeper current that isn't going away. and is trying to figure out what to do about it. today, the president spent his entire day not in ferguson, but on it. >> there have been commissions before, there have been task forces and conversations, and nothing happens.

what i tried to describe to people is why this time will be different, and part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested in making sure that this time is different. >> reporter: he held meetings with his cabinet, young civil rights leaders from around the country, along with law enforcement and faith leaders. attorney general eric holder is in atlanta on the same issue, looking for ways to build trust. what the white house is doing now is asking congress for more funding for local police departments. more than $200 million that would include training and some 50,000 body cameras for officers. potentially answering some of the difficult questions in the futch they are are unanswerable in ferguson. and the white house continues to look into what some see as the militarization of local police departments. a review commissioned by the president released today shows nearly half a million pieces of federal military equipment given to police, including ammunition,

planes, mine resistant vehicles and more than 5,000 humvees. but the study also found a glaring lack of consistency, training, and community input in these federal grants. the white house wants to fix that. and get at some of the roots of unrest. >> these are the kinds of issues that i don't think anybody expecting these issues will be resolved overnight. he recognizes that not just one presidential trip to ferguson is going to solve the problem here. >> reporter: the white house is emphasizing this distrust between police and communities and say this is an issue that comes up when there's an incident and fades back from public view. the president said what this needs is a sustained commitment and effort. wolf? >> michelle, thank you very much. the attorney general of the united states, eric holder, is also working today to try to improve the relationship between the african-american community and law enforcement across the country. he's getting ready to hold a meeting at the church where dr. martin luther king, jr. once

preached. cnn's martin savidge is joining us with more on this part of the story. martin, set the scene for us. >> reporter: well, the attorney general is expected at any moment. there's going to be first a small meeting that will take place with community leaders. after that, there's going to be a public forum. there are already a lot of people that have shown up and all allowed to go inside. this is the first of a series of regional meetings. but the first one takes place right here. historically, the significance is this, as you point out, dr. martin luther king. this is where he was born and preached. this is where he grew up. then there's the date. december 1, 1955 is when rosa parks decided that she would not sit in the back of the bus anymore. she refused to move and step away from the white section of a public bus in montgomery, alabama. and that set off a historic chain of events.

so history hangs heavy over this gathering here. >> we'll stay in close touch with you, martin. let's go to the epicenter of the protests and the tension. cnn's george howell is joining us what more in what's going on in ferguson, missouri. george, what is going on? >> reporter: wolf, let's talk about it in different levels. nationally, we know that protesters here asked for a day of walkouts. in new york city, we saw that happen. in washington, d.c., we saw protesters surround the justice department, even blocking the streets in some cases. hear in ferguson, it's hard to forget those images of unrest and the riots by people. some people who decided to break the law that day. let's not forget about the main issue and it's being discussed here in this meeting that has been heated at times. the issue here in ferguson, many people who feel that they're not getting a fair shake when it

comes to economic progress or opportunity, when it comes to education, when it comes to how they're treated by police officers. again, we're monitoring this meeting because at times people are venting. the comments can be heated. but there is a real deep seated frustration from much deeper issues and we're hearing that from this community tonight. >> george, thank you very much. george howell is in ferguson for us. we're learning more about the resignation of darren wilson from the ferguson police force. what's next for him and for his family? we're joined now by two of wilson's lawyers. greg, danielle, thanks to both of us very much for joining us. a couple technical questions. danielle, first to you. darren wilson will not be receiving any severance pay from the ferguson police force. did he want severance pay? was he not eligible? give us the background here.

>> with a resignation, basically you're cutting ties with the employer. so here he is resigning from the ferguson police department and with that resignation, he's moving on. so as a severance goes in this situation, it wouldn't have been a good outcome for the tension that's going on. >> so what about that, greg? where does wilson go from here? >> that's the million dollar question. wolf, from the get-go, our two goals throughout this case was to protect his due process rights and to protect his safety. his safety is still an issue at this point in time. there's death threats out there, and so our paramount issue at this point in time is his safety. however, he's got to move on with his life, as well. he's probably going to go back to school. he's probably going to have to pursue other areas of employment, because i think it's

quite obvious a job in law enforcement is highly unlikely at this point in time. >> i would say so. does he have security, greg? does he have bodyguards? >> wolf, let me put it this way. he's in a safe place right now. >> let's talk a little bit about what's going on in his life, danielle. he recently got married. we've seen the marriage certificate and all of that. his wife is now pregnant, right? >> correct. >> and so where do they want to live? because she's a police officer in ferguson herself. is she going to give up her job? >> those are all decisions that will be made in the future. at this point, they're safe where they are and that's what matters. >> and you suspect they will stay in that area or they'll move elsewhere in the country or elsewhere around the world for that matter? >> i don't think they've made those decisions yet. so it would be really difficult for me to say. >> greg, we know that he has

been threatened and he's worried about his security. what about his wife? she's a police officer in ferguson. has she also been threatened? >> wolf, that was the impetus of officer wilson's resignation. we found out from the city that his fellow member and women in blue were receiving threats. we also found out that the police station itself, the building in and of itself, was under threats. so at that point in time, darren wilson said, for the safety of his fellow officers, for the safety of the city of ferguson, that's what the impetus was for him to resign. so yes, there are threats not only against himself but his family, as well. >> so she, i take it, is no longer -- she's on leave, as well, is that right? >> she's currently on leave. >> but she's been paid administrative lead as he was until he resigned?

>> she's on a medical leave, it's benefits that she had accrued as a police officer. so she's on paid medical leave right now, that's correct. >> but they're obviously both worried. what about other members of their family, danielle, are they worried, as well? >> well, from the beginning, members of the media and others have tried to get in touch with darren's family, both here and throughout the country. so it has been a concern and throughout the time that darren has been in the spotlight, his family has been of the utmost importance to him. so he's tried to keep them safe, but there's only so much you can do when information is public and people can be found. >> i want both of you to stand by, because i have more questions to ask right now about what's going on, get your reaction to some of the protests that have occurred not only in ferguson but elsewhere around the country. much more with the attorneys representing darren wilson right after this.

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we're back with the two lawyers for the former ferguson police officer darren wilson. he resigned from the force about 48 hours ago. danielle thompson and greg are joining us once again. danielle, if he goes back to school now, now that he's given up his job as a police officer, what is he going to study? >> there's been a couple of subjects thrown out there. anything from business to, you know, somewhere in that field, finance, accounting. there's a couple different options. >> let's talk about these other -- >> or maybe finish up a criminal justice degree. >> we'll see what he does on that front. greg, you know there's two federal investigations the

justice department is engaged in right now. one involves whether michael brown's civil rights were violated. have you been told anything about this investigation, when it might be completed? >> no, we've heard no word from the department of justice and when they may conclude their investigation. as you stated, there's an ongoing investigation and the department of justice has undertaken these investigations in the past and sometimes they never close the investigation. we have heard no word on when or if it will be closed. >> have you heard anything about the michael brown family filing a separate lawsuit against your client? >> well, we've heard a lot of michael brown's family's attorneys on television, and i think, you know, down the road that's probably going to occur. >> that they will file some sort of lawsuit against darren wilson. the that happens, i assume you guys will be part of the legal

team, is that right, danielle? >> we would always be there to support darren in whatever legal capacity there is. typically, though, in a suit like that, he would be sued in his official capacity, so the city of ferguson would decide whether or not to provide legal coverage as well since he would be sued as a ferguson police officer. >> given these two separate federal investigations still under way right now, would it be appropriate from your client's perspective for the president to go to ferguson and meet with michael brown's family? >> i don't think really from our perspective that's a decision we can make one way or the other. our main focus has been on darren and making sure that he's protected. and we know that there's a lot of tension and a lot of politics and a lot that's involved in everything that's happening in ferguson. it's not my place to decide what

should happen, you know, politically and what shouldn't happen regarding the president or any other politicians at this point. >> so greg, you wouldn't have a problem if the president went to ferguson and met with the family? i only ask the question because some legal experts have wondered if that might jeopardize the objectivity of these two federal investigation it is the president were to go and do that. >> i understand what you're saying. i don't disgreagree with that. that's why we ourselves made no statement to the media with regard to the criminal investigation, because that's one thing we did not want to do is taint the grand jury process. and we also didn't want to taint the criminal investigation. so will that potentially create a taint in this arena? that's for us to find out down the road, i guess. but yeah, i'm not going to make

any comments about whether or not with the president coming here to speak where the family, but that's the reason, wolf, we did not make a statement until the grand jury had made their decision, because we did not want to taint that investigation. >> i don't know if you were watching in the last hour, danielle, our show, but we had the president's comments over at the white house. he was meeting with activists and officials at the end of a very lengthy statement. a reporter shouted out a question whether justice was served in the darren wilson decision, not to indict. the president didn't respond to any questions, didn't answer any questions. would you have -- i assume you would have wanted him to respond in this particular case, right? >> we feel like justice was served for darren wilson and he got the justice he was entitled to. we would have loved for president obama to come out and say yes, everything happened exactly how it should have

happened. but there's a lot of other politics and racial tensions at play here, and to come out and say that would have been detrimental to him. >> greg, did you think -- looking back on the interview that your client darren wilson gave abc news, george stephanopoulos, he was nearly a one-hour interview. looking back on that interview, and i know you've had confidences with darren wilson, was there anything he said that he would have been better off rephrasing in a different way? >> i don't think so, wolf. ly tell you this, i was at the critical incident scene within wo one hour of the shooting that day. i took his statement down. we were subsequently interviewed by st. louis county detectives. normally i have to fill in blanks, fill in a few other things here.

the statement was consistent. the next day, we gave another tape recorded statement to the st. louis county police department. i didn't have to fill anything on my note pad. his story, his statement has been consistent since day one. we were thereafter interviewed by the department of justice. those questions were much more hard hitting and we heard a lot of things in the news too about there's been no opportunity to cross examine darren wilson. if you read that statement he provided to the department of justice, he was grilled. he was asked every tough question there was. so with regards to your first question, whether or not he was change anything in the interview he gave to george stephanopoulos, i don't think so. >> danielle, there's been some suggestion that if you believe his side of the story, and clearly the grand jury did, that if michael brown was, in fact, charging him at that last moment when he raised his weapon and

shot michael brown in the head, there has been some suggestion why did he have to shoot him in the head, why not shoot him lower in the body, not shoot to kill but shoot to stop him. what is his answer to that? >> as shown in all the autopsies and the witness testimony, at that point, numerous shots were already fired at michael brown and the threat still was occurring. at that point, there was no other option for officer wilson. he had to eliminate the threat that kept coming to him. and he had been giving numerous opportunities before that and took steps each time to try and alleviate the situation. but it just didn't happen. so eventually that was the only option that officer wilson had left. >> wolf, if i could add, at that fatal moment when officer wilson fired that fatal shot, michael brown crouched down into a

bulrush position. that was the only thing that officer wilson saw at that point in time, because michael brown crouched down and was ready to bulrush him. that's when he decided to take that fatal shot. >> he could have aimed a little bit lower towards the chest or his legs, right? that probably would have stopped him. >> that's where the shots were coming earlier, but it hadn't stopped him. >> that's a great question, wolf. that shows you just how close michael brown was to officer wilson at the time officer wilson had to make the decision to fire that fatal shot. >> you were there, we showed our viewers, greg, some video, him in the police station after the incident. what was going through his mind? you were speaking to him even then, right? >> that is correct. >> take us inside that police sti station when he's walking around

there. we saw some of the injuries he suffered from inside the car. >> shortly after i met with darren initially, and the st. louis county detectives showed up, i could see he had marks on the left side of his cheek, and the right side of his cheek was beginning to swell. so at that point in time, we decided we better get you checked out. that's the photos i believe you're talking about. >> so where does all this go? button this up for us, danielle, where does this all go from here? >> legally or otherwise? >> in terms of his life, legally, they've still got a lot of problems out there, including their own security. >> and legally, we just have to wait regarding the department of justice investigation, and if there is a civil suit. regarding their lives, they just

try and continue as they have been. they ore a fairly quiet and private couple, and they would like to continue with their lives and there is a version of a new normal that they're getting used to. and it's going to take some getting used to. so they don't know what tomorrow is going to bring, but they just take it head on and deal with it. >> danielle, thank you very much for joining us. greg, thanks to you, as well. the two attorneys representing darren wilson right now. we'll take a quick break, get analysis from our experts. much more on the breaking news at the white house, the protests around the country when we come back.

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the breaking news we're following this hour. the president of the united states saying he's deeply invested in solving the problems exposed by the ferguson, missouri shooting case and the violent protests that followed. let's bring in our panel. joining us, john gaskin, don lemon, jeffrey toobin, and tom fuentes. don, what do you think about these protests that have sparked up? i assume this is the result of the frustration, the anger. you were just in ferguson last week. talk about this. >> well, what we saw in ferguson the night after the announcement of no indictment was quite different than what we're seeing around the country now. what we're seeing around the country now, and people who are exercising their rights to protest peacefully and they are doing it. so i say amen to them. whatever you want to protest for or about, that is your right as

an american. what we saw the night of the announcement, the unrest, the looting, the burning, the violence, that wasn't right. that should never have happened and no one should make an excuse for it. but yeah, these are younger, mostly younger people who are feeling they're not being heard. they feel that mike brown did not get -- at least his family has not gotten a fair shot and they feel the officer should have been indicted. so the grand jury says that he should not be indicted. we have to abide by that, but these people have every right to protest. so if they want to do it, they want to do it. but justice has been served, many people just don't like the way it was served. >> john, now that darren wilson has resigned from the police department in ferguson, is the community calmer there? what is the latest on the ground feeling? >> well, the last few nights have been relatively peaceful. people are still waiting to see

what the family will do from a legal stand point. but many people quite honestly, wolf, are very disappointed in the grand jury's decision. they're disappointed in what took place in the grand jury room, how the prosecutor handled it. the fact that, you know, these grand jurors that have no legal experience were pounded with mountains of evidence and that there was no indictment. it was almost as though there was a criminal trial that took place versus a grand jury proceeding. so many people are very disappointed. but i just want to touch briefly on what don said about the protest. today is obviously the 59th anniversary of the montgomery busboy c boycotts. it became a national struggle and now the cries are being heard by president obama and his cabinet. >> jeffrey, legislation was

introduced today in missouri that would require police to wear these body cameras, it would scale back the use of deadly force laws in missouri. would that have changed what happened in ferguson? >> well, it certainly would have given us a lot more evidence or a lot more objectively accurate evidence than we had. that's certainly one of the potentially productive things that could come out of this. but let's be clear about one thing, which is what president did today was nothing. you know, maybe something will happen down the road, but all this talk about having conversation and what not, we've been having conversations for a long time. what the president has done is nothing. i don't know what he can do exactly, but just having these conversations seems small to me. >> he did create another commission chaired by the philadelphia police commissioner, charles ramsey, who is highly regarded in these

areas. and he also -- i want tom to weigh in on this -- he also basically said, using his executive authority, he's going to continue allowing the pentagon to provide all of this sophisticated military equipment to local law enforcement across the country and make money available for body cameras for local law enforcement, as well. >> i agree with the cameras. but this whole argument of militarization, we're the only country in the world that allows our public to carry assault rifles, armor piercing shells and wear body armor. so we have the most militarized public in the entire world. and often times we need a militarized police to deal with it. >> if the president, don lemon, did go to ferguson, you spent a lot of time there in recent months, do you sense it potentially could undermine these two separate justice department investigations? >> i think the president is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. i think jeffrey was very brave to say what he said. we heard when the president gave

his initial race speech a few years back after the trayvon martin thing, so we've been hearing a lot of talk, a lot of commissions have been established. i don't know how successful they have been. i certainly hope that they have been successful. but i think jeff toobin is very brave to say that. so maybe by going there, there will be action. but if he goes there, he's going to be criticized. but he is the first black president and many african-americans want to see more from an african-american president or hope to. >> jeffrey, would it undermine the two separate justice department investigations? >> i don't think so. i think those will operate on their own track. those are independent justice department investigators. the fact that president obama would go to talk to the parents or talk to other people, i don't think it would make any difference. i don't know what good it would

do, but i don't think it would be a barrier to any further justice department action. >> i want all of you to stand by. we have another special guest joining us now live from ferguson, queen barnes greens business was burned and destroyed last week. she's joining us now. you had a beauty salon. what happened to your place of business? >> it was bumped down due to, i guess, some misguided anger. we had some guys, i guess somebody burned down the beauty supply and the fire department going and destroyed the strip mall. >> how many people were working there at the sometime >> seven. >> seven people. >> my shop, seven. and quite a few at the other shops in the strip mall. >> and so basically, you closed up business that night. this is the second time you had problems. back in august you had some serious problems at your beauty

salon as well, right? >> yes. my air condition was tampered with. >> and because of the disturbances, did you -- you had to lay some people off from work to begin with, right? >> well, they just walked out. we had no heat because it was so cold outside, and the -- i'm sorry, it was so cold outside, they didn't -- they messed with the ac unit and we didn't have any ac. it was about 100 degrees outside. so they all walked out. and we had to shut it down for a couple weeks until we were able to get it fixed. >> do you have any idea who these people were who came into your shop and basically destroyed it? >> no, i don't. i definitely don't believe it was my community. >> do you think it was outside agitators, is that what you're saying? >> i don't know.

i just don't think it was my community. >> so what do you do now, queen? >> stay prayerful. i'm just thankful that we have a lot of people like you who is reaching out to us, who cares about our businesses and the families that are employed by us. >> did you have insurance? >> yes. >> so will the insurance allow you to rebuild your business? >> it's not enough. i didn't really take out that much insurance, i didn't think like this would ever happen. >> is there any indication that either local, state, federal agencies might provide you some money to help rebuild your shop? >> i'm not sure right now, but gofundme is doing a great job. natalie and christine has been doing a wonderful job getting my name and business out there. i definitely want to thank them. in the last 48 hours, they've been on the phone with me every

day and just keeping me comforted and putting my name out there, tweeting me every few seconds. so i definitely appreciate them. >> and your seven employees are now out of work right now looking for jobs? >> yes. they're looking for stations at other shops that they can work at to maintain their customers. >> queen barnes-green, the owner of queens royal touch massage, barber and beauty shop in ferguson. thanks so much for joining us. good luck to you and all the folks out there who had their businesses destroyed during these demonstrations that erupted after that grand jury decision. thank you very much. >> thank you. i'm very grateful for you having me on your show. >> thank you very much. good luck. stay with cnn. we're continuing to follow the national outpouring of anger. much more coming up. also, an alarming new warning about a threat to members of the united states military. not on the battlefield, but to

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we're keeping close watch on ferguson, missouri. new protests across the country. more on that coming up. but right now, members of the united states military are being warned that uicsis terrorists m be targeting them. let's bring in our security

correspondent jim sciutto. he's taking a closer look at this story. >> reporter: there have been previous bulletins about isis encouraging attacks on u.s. military personnel. but this includes information that isis members overseas are spotting and assessing like-minded people here in the u.s. based on social media postings who may want to carry out such attacks, what amounts to an online recruiting effort for attacks here on u.s. soil. an attacker shoots a canadian soldier dead in ottawa. another runs over two soldiers with his car, killing one. both attackers allegedly inspired by isis. now a new fbi bulletin warns that isis members are spotting an assessing like-minded individuals in the u.s. who would carry out attacks on members of the american military on u.s. soil. the first time an fbi bulletin

has included such a warning. bulletin s cite the attacks in canada are listens for the vigilance. >> they're reminding everyone to be careful of their surroundings, to walk in pairs, not wear uniforms when you don't have to. >> reporter: the fbi is warning members of the u.s. military to be aware of and review their online social media postings, as well. the goal, to make themselves less of a target to a terror group with an unrivals and aggressive online operation. the bulletin, obtained by cnn, advising members of the military "to use caution and practice operational security when posted." one grave concern of u.s. counterterror officials is so-called lone wolf attacks require little plans and little, if any, direct contact with isis commanders abroad. >> the new phenomena that i see that i'm very concerned about is somebody who has never met

another member of that terrorist organization, never trained at one of the camps, who is simply inspired by the social media, the literature, the propaganda, the message to commit an act of violence in this country. >> reporter: u.s. law enforcement posted this warning now in advance of the upcoming holiday season. many members of the u.s. military travel in uniform. the timing of this bulletin based in part on the upcoming holidays and the recent attacks in canada, which the bulletin says might embolden copy cat attacks here on u.s. soil. >> does the fbi bulletin say men and women of the united states military when on leave at home should be wearing civilian clothes, not uniforms? >> it does. that's a step the u.s. military hasn't taken not to wear their uniform off base in the u.s. but in other countries that is the rule, because the u.s. military follows the host country rules. in canada, after these attacks, their service members were instructed not to wear uniforms

off base. the uk has done something similar. the u.s. is not considering that at this time. >> thank you very much, jim sciutto, for that report. much more coming up on the ferguson fallout. plus, new details of the republican congressional staffer under fire after slamming the obama daughters online.

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crossed the line. our chief congressional correspondent dana bash has details. >> you are here by pardoned -- >> it was a standard first family event. pardoning the thanksgiving turkey until a republican congressional aide wrote a mean-spirited rant on her facebook page about the president's teenage daughters. try showing a little class. dress like you deserve respect. not a spot at a bar. that post class tiesing malia, 16, forcing the elizabeth lawton to apologize. but wasn't enough. today she resigned. >> children, especially the first daughters, should be off limits in the political discourse from attacks. >> that's the republican party spokesman agreeing with the white house. >> i was taken aback that there was some political operative on capitol hill who did use the occasion of the thanksgiving, of a thanksgiving themed event to

criticize members of the first family. >> it has long been bay partisan goal to almost and protect the privacy of presidential kids, living in a fish bowl through no fault of their own. but that hands-off policy has limits. chelsea clinton like the obama girls lived in the white house during her teenage girls and was largely left alone with some glaring exceptions. like when saturday night live mocked her appearance. >> rush limbaugh even compared her to a dog. >> cute kid. let's see who is the cute kid in the white house. no, no, no! that's not the kid, that's the kid. >> amy carter's first dave school was a media spectacle. when george w. bush's then 19-year-old daughters were charged with violating liquor laws in texas, it made headlines. even that was before social media where anyone with an opinion can express it. and occupational hazard in politics thatly liz lawton learned the hard way with her

mean girl facebook post lashing out at the obama daughters. they said it is an important lesson. >> what was your advice to republican press secretaries like her? >> we would always tell them, think before you tweet. think about what your boss wants to say and if that's what you want to echo. think about, would mom want to read it? if mom doesn't want to read it, you may not want to say the. >> good advice for all of us. >> in a toxic environment like our political system, it is hard to imagine there is a loin to cross anymore but there is and this unknown staffer working for a low profile staffer tripped over it. >> gloria borger is with us as well. 13-year-old, 16-year-old, clearly off limits. >> off limits. and there ought to be like a ten-second delay before you can post something like that on your -- >> facebook page or tweet something like that. particularly since this is a person whose expertise is in the

realm of communications, wolf. she ought to know better. i think everyone ought to move on from it. it is kind of a sad story. >> let's talk a little about, is it really possible there could be another government shutdown in the next few days? >> if i say no, which is what i really think and it happens, what will happen? will you come back and -- who knows? no. i really don't think it will happen. the republican leadership are absolutely, they're determined not to let the government shut down. more importantly, most of the rank and file republican who's push for a government shutdown last year because of obamacare don't want to do that with this. they don't think there's any way they can actually achieve what they want to. which is to stop, the whole reason we're talking about this. to try to push back on the president's immigration executive order. >> and our new poll showed that if there were some sort of shutdown, 50% would blame republican, congressional republicans, 33% said president

obama would be to blame. so this is not a winning issue. >> that's why republican leaders don't want to do it. having covered the last election as we all know. you know there was not any hell to pay. the public blamed republicans for shutting down the government and they gained, what? a dozen seats? in the house? and control. so yeah. and control of the senate. so the public doesn't want the government to shut down. i think they're fed up with everybody. they'll blame republicans. but they won't like either party. >> this new congress, and you'll be covering congress. it will have the largest dominant republican majority since 1929. republicans gained seats in the mid-term elections. the democrats in the senate. they lost obviously seats. mary landrieu loses, they'll have 54 seats compared to the democrats 46. two independents among those. yet harry reid stays on as the

minority leader. was there ever any consideration, serious consideration that maybe they should get some new leadership over there? >> was there serious consideration? no. was there talk about it? absolutely. for example, when they had their leadership elections in the senate in particular. before they left for thanksgiving break. there was a meeting that was supposed to be, maybe 45 minutes. it lasted well over an hour. i think it was about two hours. the main reason was because there were a lot of democrats who stood up and. sorry, harry reid. sorry the rest you leaders. you led us down there path and we don't think you should be doing it now. joe manchesteron from west virginia. even chair mccaskill. they rocked the boat but they didn't turn it over. >> they're angrier at president obama than they were at their own leadership of. so in the end they decided to stick with what they have. but i wouldn't be surprised if in the next iteration you do get

a change. >> we'll see what happens. we'll watch it. together with you guys. thanks very much. that's it for me. thank you for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. news. attorney general eric holder. this hour with an historic speech on race and the police in an iconic atlanta church. we'll take you there live. plus the fbi's strongest warning of isis attacking in the militants. spotting and assessing individuals to carry out attacks on the military on american soil. and outrage as the obama girls are called out. told to dress with respect, not for a quote, spot at the bar. are they fair game? let's go "outfront."