a change. >> we'll see what happens. we'll watch it. together with you guys. thanks very much. that's it for me. thank you for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. news. attorney general eric holder. this hour with an historic speech on race and the police in an iconic atlanta church. we'll take you there live. plus the fbi's strongest warning of isis attacking in the militants. spotting and assessing individuals to carry out attacks on the military on american soil. and outrage as the obama girls are called out. told to dress with respect, not for a quote, spot at the bar. are they fair game? let's go "outfront." >> good evening. "outfront," the breaking news.

the attorney general of the united states, eric holder, with an historic address on race in america. this of course, well, it all has to do with ferguson. he is about to speak at the ebenezer bamt church in atlanta. that's the chux where dr. martin luthootuther king preached. and across the united states there were walkouts in the wake of the ferguson grand jury decision. from new york to washington to chicago and san francisco. workers walked off the job. walked out of school, lying down on the ground as michael brown did when he lay for four hours. demonstrators often repeating the hands up symbol that five players from the st. louis rams did as they were introduced at sunday's game. this as the president of the united states held a series of meetings with civil rights leaders, students in law enforcement. he admitted, there have been commissions and panels before on these issues but he said, this will be different.

he said those changed and nothing ham. >> part of the reason it will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested in making sure that this time it's different. >> martin savage is in atlanta outside that historic ebenezer baptist church. marty, attorney general holder is planning events like this one. this one in atlanta though is very, very significant. >> reporter: right. ball history. and it is all about the civil rights movement and how it relates to the events after ferguson. the attorney general is inside the ebenezer baptist church right now meeting with the civic leaders that includes the mayor and chief of police in atlanta. but there is also an interfaith service taking place. that's what you're hearing. then the doors will be open to the public and a community meeting will take place and it is there attorney general holder

is expected to speak. it is all framed in the history of dr. martin luther king jr. this was the church where he preached. he is buried or entoomd across the street. and remember, for the civil rights movement for dr. king, it was about civil protest but doing it peacefully. that's clearly the message that the attorney general wants to reinforce here. people may be upset with the outcome of ferguson but to protest. >> >> there were protests around the nation today. people walking out. people as we showed you. everyone lying on the ground. trying to commemorate what michael brown, how he laid there for four hours when he died. the protests continual from the streets of new york city to the st. louis rams football field. in an incredible moment where some of the players put their hands up as they were introduced. george howell is "outfront."

>> reporter: protesters marched from coast to coast one week after a grand jury decided not to indict officer darren wilson. in ferguson, missouri, residents voiced their frustrations. from walkouts in new york to demonstrations in washington, d.c. protesters are making sure their message is heard. some gathered outside the justice departments, even blocking some streets. >> for them to be in there for 20 minutes is only a testament to how the lives of black people are stopped every day. >> reporter: at sunday's nfl game in st. louis, five rams players staged their own protest as they took the field. their hands up. a pose that has been widely documented by brown supporters. >> we wanted to come out and show our respect to the protesters and people that have

been doing a heck of a job around the world. >> we wanted to let the community know that we support them. >> reporter: but the st. louis police officers association condemned the players action, saying, it is unthinkable that home town athletes would so publicly perpetuate a narrative that has been disproven over and over again. despite pleas by the police organization to discipline the players. the nfl said none of the players will be punished, saying, quote, we respect and understand the concerns of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation. >> reporter: we're live here in ferguson, missouri, where it is more about the dialogue. it has been a peaceful night and a meeting happening right behind me. residents are talking about the deem seated issues that go beyond the riots. people are frustrated with the way they're treated by police. the education, the quality of education here. that's being discussed. people looking for solutions. and people are asking about darren wilson. what happens to him since he's

resigned? we their following from his attorneys. we'll show you. it says, darren has said at one point he thought of going back to school for business but nothing is concrete. you'll remember that he is no longer with the ferguson police department. not going to get any severance from the city. and as you know, for the last several months, he's been living in hiding after unrest and the riots we recently saw. and "outfront," a criminal defense attorney who is represented police officers for 30 years along with you. darren wilson says he might to go business school. not confirmed but that's something he might do. it is not as if someone who has been exonerated by the justice system has any responsibility to the system. that isn't something he has a responsibility to. but do you think he should go ahead and reinvent himself? >> well, i do. he is almost going to be a man without a country. he's been in hiding and he will to have stay in hiding and he

does have to cooperate with a civil suit if there's one filed by the family in order to be indem any identified financially. his fees paid and any potential damage award paid. he has that concern to go forward. but in a case like this, there is nowhere to go. at least for now. >> wilson told abc news he wanted to stay on the force for 30 years and retire as a sergeant. he said that's all i want. on saturday he said i wouldn't want to be a com but you never know. only time will tell. should he be allowed to go back to law enforcement? >> well, the hiring department would have to ask themselves, can he be effective? and it is hard to imagine a scenario where he could be effective. what community is going to trust him? particularly any community that has a large portion of minorities in it. and even more so, which community wants to deal with the likely media fallout and programs even protests upon his hiring? that's a very high ask to be

making for one officer. so i agree with your guest. it seems like he needs to remake himself and stay low and think about another profession. >> what about his wife? is she still on the police force? she is 36, 37 years old. she's been there for ten years. darren wilson said she was asked to resign but she hasn't said yes. should she stay on the force or be penalized by him? >> i don't know if she should be penalized by him. she had nothing to do with what he did or didn't do. but they've cited safety concerns within the department. threats against the department, threats against at least officer wilson and they have a baby on board. why would she want to stay in that department? it is a very small town. all things considered. why would she want to remain there? why would she want to put herself and her family in harm's way but also, why would the department want to put itself in harm's way by keeping her in the department? as somebody clearly recognized all over the nation. >> what about what we just saw with the st. louis rams.

you have the players in front of the nation and many around the world who are watching that game and a few of them put their arms in the air to show solidarity with their community. you have the police officers union coming out and aggressively saying, this was wrong. why would they do it? again and again, michael brown's side of the story, they say, has been disproven? were you shocked that they would come out and say that? >> was i shocked that the police officers would say that? >> yeah. >> definitely. i thought they hired a publicist. didn't they hire some pr firm to help them navigate this water? that's just another misstep in a series of misstems. don't forget, if you read the grand jury witness testimony, what you found was several people. most of the people who testify said that officer wilson shot michael brown when his hands were in the air. so while it's true that the criminal justice system may not have indicted officer wilson,

that doesn't erase the fact that people said what they saw and those football players opted to support those people. >> you've represented police officers for 30 years. but should, you know, as a group, should that statement have been made? what is the gain in that? what. why would they do that? >> i don't think it was a pr move. the bottom line is, everyone is trying to make peace. we've heard a lot of what the grand jury testimony is. we've read thousands of pages about what officer wilson said. what the forensic evidence says. why polarize it further by saying, you're exercising your first amendment rights. you went out with your hands in the air. you should be displinld for that. it is too polarizing. we need to work through this, through race relation issues. these shootings, i've handled many, many. people shut down i-5 in protests no, justice no, peace, et cetera and we have to get through this.

>> thanks very much. next, basketball great charles barkley weighing in on the ferguson shooting. >> what i'm saying, three or four witnesses who were black said exactly what the cop said. >> how reliable are those testimonies? that report coming up next. plus, we're live in atlanta. the attorney general speaking out at an historic event on race and police violence after ferguson. the president vows this time will be different. but will it? and the strongest warning. my name's louis,

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a manhunt is underway in west virginia. a man allegedly shot and killed four people near morgantown, west virginia. the suspect is identified as 39-year-old jody lee hunt believed to be driving a black pickup truck. on the phone with me now, lieutenant bayless. good to have you with me tonight. can you tell me a little more about what you know about this man? >> we have developed him as a suspect. we have three different crime scenes here and we're needing the public's assistance in helping locate him. we have all his information on our facebook site. and we put it out on various news outlets. we're hoping somebody can come

one that key piece of information that can lead us to him or that he will turn himself in. >> we're showing his picture now. a 39-year-old man wearing glasses. this picture, it looks like he hasn't shaved in a couple days but who whngs this was taken? my understanding this has been going on for many hours. >> i was made aware of it early this morning. and i'm be exactly sure what time they discovered the crime scene. but there are three different crime scenes. three different agencies investigating it so we don't have a time line put together as to when we believe each scene, when the crime occurred. we're going to get the investigators together and try to piece all that together. >> and where are you looking? how far do you think it is possible he may have gone or do you believe he's local? >> in that amount of time he could have gone anywhere. we put out a bolo and we've sent to it other agencies as well including out of state agencies and we've had contact with them as well. our focus is here locally.

but cannot rule out that he left the area. >> our understanding is that he knew the individuals that he allegedly killed today. do you know now though whether he is armed? >> well, we believe he is. we're telling the public for their safety, that we're considering him to be armed and dangerous. if they happen to encounter him or have information about him, the best thing they can do is contact their local state police or talk to 911 immediately. >> thank you for your time tonight. we hope that you find him and others are safe. quickly. the unrest over the ferguson grand jury decision. students across the united states walked out today to protest the decision not to indict officer darren wilson. protesters appointment to eyewitnesses accounts. here's the thing. eyewitness accounts in this case differed dramatically. i mean, gave completely different pictures about what

happened. kyung lah is "outfront." >> reporter: the now universal sign of the protests. the st. louis rams players igniting a firestorm of their own on national television. the grand jury ultimately rejected this notion, saying it lacked probable cause that an unarmed michael brown had his hands up in surrender. but how is it in the seconds after michael brown was shot that witnesses recording or recorded from three different angles, testified to the grand jury wildly differing accounts of that critical moment. from this recording, audio from a nearby unseen man who says he saw brown moving toward the officer. then there's this video. this contractor throws his hands up moments after the shooting and others also testified, brown did not run toward the officer.

>> turns around, faced the officer and puts his hands up. the officer continues to shoot him until he goes to the ground. >> who is telling the truth? >> maybe everyone. or at least they believe they are. >> just because somebody tells you something with a lot of details, just because they say with it confidence, just because they express it with emotion, it doesn't mean that it really happened that way. >> cognitive psychologist leslie's said she's testified in 300 cases since 1975. and says over and over again, eyewitnesses are often wrong. the trayvon martin case. one witness saw a blackman with a hoodie on top of a white man. another witness recalls a man with a white shirt on top of another. the 2002 d.c. sniper shootings. multiple witnesses described a white van or box truck. police shut down freeways to frisk scores of van drivers. the real car used? a blue chevy four door sedan.

the 1999 oklahoma city bombing. a key eyewitness rented temperature they mcveigh the ryder truck that carried the bombs used in the attack. but there was no john doe number two. that witness was not intentionally lying, says loftus. the memory is flaw asked affected by stress. the major cause of wrongful convictions is faulty eyewitness testimony. that's the major cause. and it is responsible. and maybe about three quarters of the cases. >> as time grows from the actual shooting, witnesses unknowingly then shape and document their own memories based on what they now hear and see in the media. here's the important thing on remember them all physically saw the same thing, that people who testified before the ferguson grand jury, they just processed it differently and they now remember it differently. >> thank you so much. i want to bring in paul, civil

rights attorney, paul, let me start with you. the report is fascinating. everybody saw it. they believe what they saw. you just heard charles barkley. he brings up that point. we've mentioned it too. look, they're african-american witnesses and they support darren wilson's side sfoefl someone who is black supports his side, it must be true. >> this case has been a trial by television, first of all. i've never seen a situation where the witnesses, some of whom we thought to be the most important witnesses, had press conferences before they went before the grand jury or talked to the police. one witness was being influenced by another witness watching them give statements on television. and i think the whole process sort of got corrupted as a result of the intervention of the media. the overly aggressive interviewing of witnesses. usually these are handles by the cops is that the grand jury and you don't have witnesses being influenced. >> the cops, when you think

about this, you could disdown witnesses altogether. but there were a lot of mistakes made there. the medical examiner didn't have batteries in his camera when he went to take pictures. darren wilson's first interviews were not even recorded. >> yeah. that's the problem. there have been so many mistakes made with respect to the investigation of this case. it just calls into question the integrity of the entire process. i think that this trust that the community that continues to voice through its protests is relate to how this investigation was conducted. and we have to remember, this grand jury was just trying to assess probable cause. not guilt or innocence. not beyond a reasonable doubt. i think those of us who read those thousands of pages see so many opportunities, so much witness testimony that gave rise to probable cause that it is difficult on understand what happened. >> so we don't, we'll never perhaps know what played into the grand jury's decision. one thing might have been the fact that tlrm eyewitness

testimonies from african-american who's supported darren wilson's version of events. we've reported on that. i want to play what you charles barkley said about that and how important it was to them. >> i'm hearing things today i haven't heard at all. you know, that even the black witnesses said, this guy came 20 feet at the officer. they were fighting inside the car. two bullets went off. i didn't know the kid came -- the blood splattered so the guy came at the com 20 feet. >> do you think it's possible the race of those eyewitnesses somehow made their testimony, that the grand jury then listened to it more? >> well, we know that there were three african-americans on that grand jury and one of the prosecuting attorneys is an african-american woman. clearly race played some role in this. there is no dispute that something ham at that car. the witnesses' testimony varied widely once the altercation ends. one thing i find really

incredible. when darren wilson was giving his testimony, a lot of questions about justifiable homicide. not a lot of aggressive questioning of darren wilson. >> let's be -- >> a lot of aggressive questioning. >> let's be fair. i was reading the questioning of johnson who was michael brown's friend. a key eyewitness. dorian johnson. >> the young man with amico brown that day. >> his testimony was they met at 7:00 in the morning. they would start smoking weed at seven clog in the morning and they were going to the convenience store. no questioning about where they were from the four hours from 7:00 until 11:53 when the convenience store stick-up takes place. softball questioning by the prosecutor throughout. >> hypothetically, why does that matter in we know they smoked pot it was. in his system. >> it matters because, it suppose the prosecutors were softball questioning everybody. they were just presenting all of the evidence to the grand jury and letting them decide.

it wasn't that they were just going soft on the cop. >> that's not accurate. >> that's just not accurate. when you read the testimony of those witnesses, many were questioned very aggressively. darren wilson was allowed to give testimony. the question of -- >> where were they between -- where were they in that four-hours? >> towed bring that point up himself. >> what about the point about darren wilson? we're always taught that the last they know you hear is the thing that sinks into your mind that's the most important. why do they have michael testify last? >> i would put him on last as well. if you're going after him, you wait until all the other evidence has come in and then you can go after him. >> but you said the questions were softball. >> then you can go on him on contradictions. this was not a trial. this was an investigation. in the end, there is so much reasonable doubt here. what would we be accomplished if

we indicted in this case? there would be an acquittal. the suffering would go on with people worrying about the case for months. does anyone seriously think that with seven witnesses saying that he charged the car, four witnesses saying he was reaching into his waist band, and everybody agreeing that michael brown had just done a strong arm robbery of a store. does anybody think that there is not reasonable doubt in this case? there would never be a conviction. >> thank you. next, we're live in atlanta as the attorney general is getting ready for this historic speech as you can see in one of the most important churches in this nation. plus, u.s. military, law enforcement, intelligence, personnel. the fbi issuing a warning that isis is targeting them for attacks on american soil. of quicken loans. y farnt and we're here in detroit with our amazing team members. the best part about working with quicken loans, is that you have a mortgage expert on the other line that's always gonna find out the best possible solution.

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we're for net neutrality protection. now, here's some news you may find even more surprising. we're comcast. the only isp legally bound by full net neutrality rules. in atlanta at the historic everybody knees he shall baptist church, you now see the attorney general eric holder. he is meeting with community leaders to discuss the august

shooting death of michael brown. this was one of several meetings the president requested in the wake of the protests in the grand jury decision to not indict officer wilson. in mes ms., tensions flared at the first meeting of the ferguson commission today that was created by the governor of missouri. they're supposed to be recommendations on how to deal with the issues that arose from this. >> so i've understood that when i was -- no, no, no. i've understood that when i was 14 years old and saw the place where my brother lay in the middle of the sidewalk because he was shot. please don't tell me what i don't understand. >> martin is there. what is it that is happening behind you? >> reporter: well, right now there's an interfaith service that's wrapping up. but you've had the attorney general who has had this meeting with a select group of civic leaders, they include the mayor

and the chief of police from atlanta and ann number of surrounding police. he pointed out this area had done a good job of community outreach between law enforcement and communities of color. so that's one reason he gave. the other reason is historic. that's the fact that this is of course, the birth place, the church, the community where dr. martin luther king jr. was raised, where he worked. as a result of that, his message had always been nonviolent. he worked for an entire civil rights movement. and of course, it is the belief that movement is very vital today and still very much connected to events regarding ferguson. but it is the message of nonviolence that you can expect to be reiterated tonight. we also anticipate, he could update the federal probes underway in ferguson. that being, revolving around the

case of the brown shooting as well as looking at the police practices of the ferguson police department. >> all right. thank you very much. we do hope that he will be giving a very direct and clear update on the federal investigation. into the michael brown shooting. joining me now, martin luther king iii and democrat everything committee woman from ferguson. i appreciate you both being with me. the president today talked about. this he said, look, there have been commissions on race and these issues before. he acknowledged they haven't worked and he said it will be different this time. let me play that for you. >> there was a cautionary note from everybody here that there have been commissions before, task forces, conversations, and nothing happens. what i try to describe to people is why this time will be different. and part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the united states

is deeply invested in making sure that this time is different. >> do you believe him, patricia? >> i most certainly do. people that live here in the st. louis region are going to make sure that whether it is through a commission or other actions, there are solutions. and there are actions that are taking place to address these issues. so i definitely commend the men and women on the commission. their work will not be in vain. it is the people in the community who will have to do the real work. >> president obama and his attorney general speaking in atlanta have spoken about race. and their commitment to justice. they've talked about it a lot. take a listen. >> too many young men of color feel targeted by law enforcement. guilty of walking while black, driving while black, judged by stereo types that fuel fear and resentment and hopelessness. >> there are still problems. and xluts of color aren't just these up.

>> we are committed to doing everything possible to ensure if every case, never community justice must be done. president obama has launched his personal goal, my brother's keeper. you heard the attorney general saying justice will be served. no doubt they believe in this and they believe in it passionately. the question to you is where is the action? >> well, the action really comes when you see number one, when you look at this issue around police brutality. if that is one of the major issues. what is creating this issue right now? there are a myriad of issues. poverty is one of the issues. poverty is an issue that must be addressed in america. the president, i believe, has a commitment. the attorney general. they have stated they have a commitment. i believe the other thing that has to happen is there has to be an outreach to congress.

congress will have to create additional legislation for to us continue to move forward. >> what about the issue of justice in ferguson? we expect the attorney general in just a moment. he'll be speaking. and we hope that he will be giving a very explicit update on the federal justice department investigation into whether civil rights were violated in the ferguson shooting. were they violated? how disappointing will you be if the department of justice declines to press charges? >> i don't know what their investigation had find. i think there will be another hit to the community. that will be another catalyst for us to continue to move forward. this is much larger than just the mike brown case. people need the remember that. it is not just about the one case. this is about men and women of color and policing and all sorts of other issues, that we cannot just be disappointed about one lack of indictment.

>> should the president to go ferguson? >> i think the president has to make that decision. i think the most important issue is that the president is finding a way to work with congress to get congress to enact things that certainly do trickle down to the communities. training, for example, in xluts so jobs are create. those are some of the thing that need to happen.communities so j. those are some of the thing that need to happen. it is a myriad of young people coming together. tragic that it took something like this for it to happen. but the road is being paved as we speak. >> thanks to both of you. next, the most serious terror warning yet. there isis.

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strongest fbi warning yet about possible terror attacks in the united states. officials specifically warning members of the american military. the fbi bulletin says, overseas based individuals are looking for like minded individuals in the u.s. to carry out these attacks. we also request members of the military review their online social media presence for any information that might attract the attention of extremists. information like their whereabouts at the specific time. officials fear copycat attacks similar to canadian military members including the october shooting in ottawa. peter king sits on both the homeland security and intelligence communities. good to have you with us. let me start by asking you how concerned you are about this bulletin? >> we have to be concerned. i don't believe there's anything new over the last 60 days. this is something the intelligence community has been aware of and the defense department has notified the military several months ago.

i think the fbi and also homeland security thought it was important to remind military personnel in this country that it's not just overseas there's a risk. a lot of troops will be traveling back and forth in uniforms. over the holidays. and it is really, a real reminder to them that isis is making a concerted effort to make. not just overseas. you almost expect that. they want to get military people. they want to get people in uniform. and it is not just even the hard core they're appealing to. they're also appealing to the fringes in society where you saw the person in jamaica queens who attacked a police officer with an axe. he was influenced by isis. so it is a real threat. we have to be on our guard. and i don't believe there's any specific threat right now but it is out there. on the internet and they told their supporters to attack. >> and there isn't necessarily a

trail. with some of the lone wolves. you don't necessarily see it coming. and i know the new fbi bulletin talks specifically about isis members and they use the word, quote/unquote, spotting and assessing individuals in the u.s. that they think will carry these attacks out on american soil. you have been briefed. how are they quote/unquote spotting these people? how is isis spotting people? >> they can do it, first of all, they can monitor the internet. people do basic things. sending pictures of themselves in uniforms. talking about military activities. stories in local newspapers. when you show you're in the military, that makes you a target. and again, they can just go on the internet. communications back and forth saying where you're moving to. where you've been reasigned. to saying you're going home for family birthdays. any of those thing they're

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a republican congressman resigned after she told the obama daughters to show a little class and act like you deserve respect, not a spot at the bar. here's what she was reacting to, this video of malia and sasha with their dad hayes pardons turkeys which is a white house tradition. dana bash is "out front". >> reporter: it was a standard first family event, pardoning the thanksgiving turkey, until a republican congressional aide wrote a mean spirited rant on her facebook page about the president's teenaged daughters. try showing a little class. dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar. that post chastising malia, 16, and sasha, 13, went viral, forcing elizabeth lauten, communications director for steve fincher, to apologize, but

it wasn't enough. today she resigned. >> children, especially the first daughters, should be off limits to the political discourse from attacks. >> reporter: that's the republican party spokesman agreeing with the white house. >> i was taken aback that there was a political operative on capitol hill who did use the occasion of the thanksgiving-themed event to criticize members of the first family. >> reporter: there has been scattered conservative criticism about the first daughters' appearance over the last six years. curly hair and a peace shirt while touring europe, but most public discussion of the first daughters has been noncontroversial. in fact, it has long been a bipartisan goal to respect and protect the privacy of presidential kids living in a fish bowl through no fault of their own. but that hands-off policy has limits. chelsea clinton, like the obama girls, lived in the white house during her teenage years and was largely left alone with some glaring exceptions. like when "saturday night live" mocked her appearance.

rush limbaugh even compared her to a dog. >> cute kid. let's see who is the cute kid in the white house. no, no, no, no, that's not the kid! that's the kid. >> reporter: amy carter's first day at school was a media spectacle. and when george w. bush's then-19-year-old daughters were charged with violating liquor laws in texas, it made headlines, but even that was before social media where anyone with an opinion can express it, an occupational hazard in politics that elizabeth lauten learned out by lashing out at the obama daughters. former aide doug high says it's an important lesson. >> this was her personal facebook page. that's fair play. >> we've moved to a world where everything is public now. does mom want to read this? and if mom doesn't want to read it, you may not want to say it. >> reporter: that's good advice for all of us, erin.

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north korea called it an act of war. in this country it's the latest seth rogen comedy. jeanne moos on why north korea may be hacking sony pictures. >> reporter: it's not nice to make fun of the dear leader. >> president kim jong un. >> reporter: but is it is possible north korea hacked sony pictures because they made a movie called "the interview" featuring seth rogen and james franco out to assassinate kim jong un? >> the cia would love it if you

could take him out. >> like for drinks? >> like to dinner. >> out on the town? >> take him out. >> you want us to kill the leader of north korea. >> yes. >> what? >> reporter: that's pretty much how north korea first reacted back in june, complaining to the u.n., calling it an act of war. those who defamed our supreme leadership can never escape the stern punishment to be meted out. in reply seth rogen tweeted, people don't usually want to kill me for one of my movies until after they've paid 12 bucks for it. >> want to go kill kim jong un? >> totally. >> reporter: last week sony pictures was hacked. the company's e-mail crippled. this image appeared. then at least five of sony's films were stolen. from brad pitt's movie "fury" to films like the yet to be released "annie." they were uploaded to piracy sites where people can download them for free. sony called it a criminal

matter. we're working closely with law enforcement. but is north korea really the culprit? honestly? we don't have a clue. the tech website recode quoted sources as saying the link to north korea was being explored. it was a decade ago that team america -- >> i'm so -- ♪ lonely >> reporter: mocked the current leader's father kim jong-il. well, he's not alone now. his son is riding shotgun. >> nice tank! >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. >> it was a gift to my grandfather from stalin. >> in my country it's pronounced stallone. >> reporter: new york. >> well, want to see if we ever see who the culprit is. it's been a week where they haven't had e-mail at sony. whatever it is, it's one of the most impressive attacks ever. thanks so much for watching. be sure to set your dvr to record "out front" so you can

watch us any time. ac-360 begins right now. good evening. john berman here sitting in for anderson. we do have breaking news on several fronts tonight including bill cosby cutting ties with the school to which he was so famously devoted. his old school, temple university in philadelphia. there's that tonight, and even as we speak, there's a high level conversation taking place on policing and race in the wake of ferguson. it's happening right now at really a wellspring of the civil rights movement, the ebenezer baptist church in atlanta. the reverend martin luther king j jr.'s church and king sr. you can see right now live pictures. we have already learned he'll be announcing new guidelines aimed at preventing racial profiling. we'll bring you more of that when had makes his remarks. it's part of an all-out administration push today with meetings in washington