>> that does it for us. thank you for watching. our coverage continues now with "cnn tonight" and don lemon. >> on the move for a second night in a row. even greater number, outraged over the chokehold death of eric garner in new york city. the grand jury's decision not to indict officer daniel pantaleo. the outrage is spreading, here in new york city in chicago. we'll take you to all of them this evening. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. as more and more take to the streets. america is facing tough questions about law and order, about black and white, and about our police and how we want them to do their jobs. we want to get into all of that tonight with our legal and police experts. so much to get to. first i want to get right out off to the middle of the streets now.

cnn's chris cuomoen the p ein t protests. chris, chris, what do you have for us? you are looking at a shot of new york city now. chris cuomo is out there. chris, can you hear me? as chris gets ready there -- we'll continue on here. and talk about the protests, again, spreading all across the country. we are looking now at new york city. there are also protests as we said in chicago. these are more organized than last night. more people are showing up to these protests. we are going to speak with the daughter of -- of eric garner. a short while here on cnn. meanwhile, why don't we go to brook, brook is in new york city out in the crowd. there she is. brook, last we saw you you were going back across the brooklyn bridge. where are you right now? >> this has been. i don't know huh to put the last

couple hours into words. you are right. for the last, 6:00 eastern time. we, and i say we, hundreds of pooh ha people have been walking from the heart of downtown manhattan, around where city hall, federal courthouse, if you are familiar with the city, this massive group, not on the pedestrian walk way, brooklyn bound, multilane part of the bridge. police shut it down. we walked into brooklyn. in the middle you can see the barkley center. everyone stopped. and it was, something i have -- never seen. having covered this since all of these, since the most recent stories have, have, reverberated. everyone, hundreds of people in the middle of the street stopped. and paused. and laid on the ground. with their cardboard coffins, mothers who have lost children. no matter how you feel on this issue, it was, it was

breathtaking. i spoke with one of the mothers. heading back into manhattan. over the manhattan bridge. excuse me. however you feel, i talked to a mother who lost her son 2 1/2 years ago. she agreed they're wonderful members of lauf enforce. in this country. she is frustrated as many of the people are that some of these members of law enforcement appear to be indiscriminately killing young people. her perspective. not everyone's. just one. we will head back over the manhattan bridge. back into manhattan. back to you, don. >> all right. brook, stand by. we'll get back to you. as you can imagine this is a, these are traveling protests. sometimes a bit difficult to get our correspondents. they're on the move. want to go to chris cuomo again out in the protest this evening. chris, where are you? >> hey, don. west side highway. turning off right now at 12th street. this is very different than last night. in numbers.

also in intensity. but numbers alone. you have at least, 10 times, what you had last night. thousand and thousand of people. and it is a very diverse crowd. you got young people. you have -- lifetime new yorkers here. you have have riff can americans. you have people of, all different colors. you have, a lot of white people. you have a lot of white kids. expressing a lot of anger and hostility towards whites. we asked them. you don't have to be a minority to feel the injustice that happens with minorities. and, what's been happening here tonight. i wouldn't call it cat-and-mouse. this is well orchestrated. use an echo effect. social media. they will say a couple of words. that gets repeated by circles. they have effectively first rated police efforts to keep them off the main arteries. partly because of how many their

numbers are. partly because of their tactics. these people are very focused on the message on being heard. i have seen no vandalism. there have been arrests. there was just a showdown right before you came to me, don. where the cops couldn't get them out of the lane of traffic. it was interesting. they started putting some flex cuffs on people. then they took them off. they did not arrest the people there. i think a couple they probably took into custody. just as many i saw them release. i think the police are being mindful of not doing anything to destaeblize the situation. >> all right. chris cuomo. get back to you. get back to brook. deb feyerick. and correspondents in the field tonight. as protests spread. this is not just politics or policy. a man is dead here. his family is in mourning. joining me now is eric garner's daughter, ericka. thank you for joining us. how are you doing? >> thank you for having me.

>> what do you think when you see thousand of people out, protesting what happened to your dad? >> oh, my god, it's like, yes. yes. you are doing it in a peaceful way. you are doing it in a united way. that's how we wanted it. how we said it from the beginning. we just want tight be peaceful. we want you to express yourselves. just be peaceful. come together. but tens of thousands in different areas all over manhattan, new york, it's just -- >> how do you manage to, to, to pull yourself together like this and be so strong in the midst of this tragedy? >> how do i pull myself together? i mean, some days it's like, i don't know how i keep it togeth together. i have a 5-year-old. she looks up to me. i have little brothers. i have a little sister. you know. and i guess i have to be the leader. i have to show them -- by me being strong. you can be strong too. >> uh-huh. how is -- how is mom?

how is his widow? >> aw . >> i mean she is what can be expected, i mean, you know, she expressed that. she was hurt. she expressed that sunny was sasa -- she expressed that she was upset. but, how is she doing? she tries how to keep her days, you know, fulllaughter and family. because family is what keeps us strong. >> you know, i asked you before. because i don't want to be disrespectful. and i have seen you've on television earlier. and i see the video of your dad. running. and i asked you if it's okay to play that video? and you said it's, you are used to it now. >> yeah. pretty much. >> why? >> because, i just wanted to see -- what happened. what happened, who did it, who

did what, who was standing where? and what conclusion -- >> you watched if the over and over. >> i watched if the over and over again. >> to the point you talked to the. >> i was talking to the tv. i was talking, "get off him. stop. don't touch him no more. why are you touching him? ." ad-libbing what people should have said. co-workers should have said. buddy, get up. you are overdoing it now. you know? and it happened. >> what did -- what do you make of the grand jury's decision obviously, sure you are not happy when you found out that your initial reaction what your thoughts after that? >> what was my thoughts. i expected it. but it was also a disappointment because -- being that we got -- the video. and my, my father dies on the video. and then you have -- these -- i guess politics or -- or -- you

know, certain people out there that wants to promote body camera. okay. my dad died on national tv on the camera. he still didn't get justice. what is justice going to do with these body cameras. but promote more killing. >> you heard -- chris cuomo and brook baldwin out there, they were saying, talking diversity in the crowd. wasn't just black people. wasn't just white people. >> sorry, because this is, this is not a black and white issue. this is a national crisis. i believe this is a crisis. i mean for white people -- to come out and show -- show how deeply was hurt and asians and people around the world they felt the same way i felt on the video. i greatly appreciate it. it is like a since such.

i am not the only one that feels this way. >> you said this is not a black and white issue. but do you, in that do you say, saying this is not an issue of race. you think it is a racial issue? >> i really doubt it. it was about the officers pride. it was about my father being 6'4", 350 pounds. and he wanted to be, you know, the top cop that brings this big man down. because he is just big. i mean, my father wasn't even doing anything. i mean -- he wasn't really doing nothing. he didn't have no gun. he run. smack him. >> lot of people will be surprised. you know this is being made out to be a racial issue. you are saying, you don't think it is about race. >> being that my father was black. the officer was white. that's different races. as far as the situation. i can't really say. it's like really -- a black and white issue.

it it is about, you know the police officers. and -- abusing their power. yeah. you were named after your dad? >> yes. >> yeah. all my brothers and sisters. eric, marie. and -- and eric, and then there is me. >> you sound like -- i can't remember my nieces' names. >> we are all es, named after my father. >> what would your father want the world to know about him? what do you say to the world who is watching this? you are, you are the daughter. you are saying it is not about race. what would he want them to know? >> he would just want them to know. he died in a horrible way.

for that person, in order to give the video how the to the world, i think e he would be ve proud of the way the protests are going. without being violent. without being, you know, burning stuff down, looting and all that. there is better ways to handle the problems. >> can you forgive the officer? >> can i forgive him. eventually i can bring myself to forgive him. eventually i can bring myself to forgiveness. but i will not forget what he did to my father. i'm sorry. i will not forget no matter. no matter how many sorries he say. no matter how many card you send. tweets he sends out. nothing will bring my father back. you either do the right thing, admit she was wrong. and do your time. and the rest of the officers, as well. do your time.

why like -- >> go ahead. this is your time. say what you want? >> this is my time? i just want him to do the right thing. i want other officers to come forward. admit they was wrong. that they made a big mistake. in their job. he was a professional. and you know. i hope, other officers in the world, you know, look at this. and don't think, hey, we are going to get -- no. think this is a very serious thing. when you do stuff to kill people for no reason. there is going to be consequences. there has to be consequences. because when you are a child and you get in trouble. there is consequences for the things that you don't do. you don't listen to your mother. you get consequences. don't listen in school. you get consequences. you know, it's just. >> adults should face consequences as well. >> as well.

>> thank you, erica. thank you, you are very strong. and our thoughts, tell your family we are thinking about them. thank you very much. we have much more to come on our breaking news tonight here on cnn. protesters are happening on the streets of new york city tonight. on other streets. chicago, around the country. over the chokehold death of eric garner. cnn's reporters are outen the crowd. we will get the very latest from them, of course. plus, former new york city mayor, rudolph giuliani, blasts the current mayor calling his response to the crisis racist. i want to know, what an coulter thinks. she is here tonight.

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. >> our breaking news here on cnn -- more and more protests on the streets of new york city, streets across the country. the death of eric garner. you're looking live now, times square, new york city. we will get to showing now. i saw you earlier on cnn, on lake shore drive, i understand that you are maybe making your way or already at michigan avenue now? >> michigan avenue. if you are familiar with michigan avenue, that's saks fifth avenue, heading up the miracle mile. basically what they have done is moved off lake shore drive on to a major thoroughfare. a bit different in the perspective of chicago. because, there are other roadways you can take. the police are being a bit more forgiving as they walk all the way up -- michigan avenue. but -- you can hear -- >> who do you protect? >> who do you serve? >> a familiar chant, don. similar chant here in chicago. it has been overwhelmingly

peaceful. there have been a couple of scuffles here and there. we witnessed one a short time ago. i haven't seen any one being arrested or throwing anything at the police. the police have been you, can see the officer here. riding his bicycle. trying to keep the crowd moving. we are walking quickly. this has been going on since 5:00, local. 6:00 eastern time. i am getting drowned out a little bit. the chant we have heard lately from the protesters. >> thank you, kyuang law in chicago. athena jones from washington where protests are going on there as well. athena, what are you seeing where you are? >> reporter: hi, don. we are right outside a wal-mart. you can see protesters are heading inside. one of the chants we heard all

night. we shut stuff down, they're not saying stuff. left the train station, union station, now here, entering the wal-mart. last hour we were discussing whether they would shut down, highway 395, major interstate in d.c. just as they did last night. sure enough, protesters, 200, 300, gathered on the freeway. 395. stood there. protesting. for -- about 10 minutes. several instances, protesters blocked traffic. laid down in front of police cars or vehicles to do a die in to represent the deaths of those, who have been killed by police. but, i will tell you this. a lot of folks out here. they feel that they're, making a difference. this its what it is going to take to make a difference when it comes to racial profiling. when it comes to police

brutality. one of the signize have seen. repeatedly says, we will not skip this generation. and so, this is part of the theme. they really feel like they are making a difference. we can see -- >> stand by, athena. >> they're protesters inside. they're trying to keep the rest from going inside. >> you can't lock them in there. >> code violation. >> you can't lock them in there. let them out now. let everybody out. >> athena, what's going on? can you ask them what is going on? >> reporter: what's going on here, how many peer afolks are ? >> there is a lot of people inside. >> you guys are trying to follow them. >> he locked them in there. >> they're concerned that the people who are inside are not being allowed out of the store.

>> they locked the doors. >> let them out! let them out! let them out! let them out! >> athena, there are protesters inside, what is this a mall? they won't let them out for safety reasons. >> this is a wal-mart. it is a new wal-mart. they're trying to -- they're trying to keep more people from coming in. is the issue. several protesters went inside. carrying signs. and, the people in the store, came and shut the doors to keep people out. protesters want their group to be allowed out. this is what you are seeing. >> uh-huh. and would imagine. >> i don't know what's going on here. are they going to open it? >> interesting. there has been no violence right, athena, no looting. maybe, maybe that's a concern. there has been -- >> you're starting confusion. you're not letting them out. >> there has been no violence.

many instances along the way, people using mega phones. warned the people, lying in front of cars or surrounding vehicle. when they're police vehicles. or ordinary vehicles. they're warning the crowd don't touch the cars. so they're trying to make sure that people do not -- do not -- go to the next level and show any violence. they're can seroncerned. we have not encountered this yet. >> it's a standoff. they walk through union station. >> open the door! open the door! >> let them out! let them out! >> open the door! >> let them out!

>> are there any -- athena, i see a security guard. are there any police officers around you? >> no, not outside. there was a police officer inside. it looks as though they may be letting the protesters out. they're walking a large group walking toward the door. looks like the door might open at any minute now. i have only seen a couple people addressing police. >> the doors are opening. they're coming back out. i suspect to be moving on. this is a fast moving crowd. if you can get one of the guys

coming out. and ask them. we'd appreciate that. >> of course. >> should we talk about what happened inside there just now. were you inside. can you tell us what happened inside? >> peaceful. marched around inside. came through. and came back out. >> were they not letting you down the stairs. >> i guess it was too many people. >> so there were customers inside. >> that's the situation. >> we couldn't quite hear. we couldn't hear. just recap what she said? >> no justice! >> no peace! >> they went inside. the protesters went inside wal-mart. they marched around. protesting peacefully. and chanting also inside. >> no peace!

no peace! no peace! no peace! no peace! >> they sound like they blocked or banned them from leaving. a pretty big wal-mart. they walked around inside. and were eventually let out. as you saw outside of here. they did not let want to let anymore people from this crowd get inside the store. so that's the situation out here, don. this is the first encounter like this we have seen. we didn't see any, use in union station. >> thank you very much. nice job there with all the noise. apologize, delay between athena and i. some times stepped on each other there. again happening in washington. there was a standoff. appeared to be a standoff at a wal-mart. there were people marching around the inside of the wal-mart. and the security would not let other people come in. because as you heard, athena say, they were afraid that they were scaring some of the customers. we are also hearing now from a protest in dallas. that we are seeing some arrests. in dallas. we are going to got to all of

thatt ein a moment. take you to cities all across the country. analysts and contributors, sunny hostin, and tara setmeier. we'll get their reaction to what we just saw among other things. we will be right back. female announcer: get on board for better sleep!

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feyerick. in times square. are you seeing arrests? >> reporter: yeah, seeing a lot of arrests. see the woman on the end of the line actually. there are about 15 people just ahead of her. i will tell you the police were much more aggressive. especially here at times square. and it almost appears as if they're using ambulances to disperse the crowd. the crowd was peaceful. walking against the flow of traffic. up 7th avenue. then am bah lenses stabulances . protesters would get out of the streets. once on the sidewalks. police were corralling them there. preventing their flow. they were walking in unison. then the groups. 100 people. 50 people. and then 100 people. nobody knew where to go. got to a point. stopped. walking in the streets. arrests began. it appears the police are fed up. they didn't want any protests here in times square. it shumet it down yesterday.

now you can see. the line. the police on the outside. look closely to their right. they're civilians. came out to protest peacefully. because they're in the street. not on the sidewalk. they were arrested. taking many by surprise. very strategic. where we were, walking up the west side highway. it was much, much more aggressive. police seemed to be out of patience. threatening them with arrests. really were able. strategically. divide the crowd. then just arrest it. as far as this goes, times square. the protest has been shut down, don. >> deborah feyerick.

in times square. left, you see protesters marching across the brooklyn bridge. when you got more information. we'll get back to you. thank you, deborah feyerick. we are hearing of arrests in dallas. sunny hostin is here. and a contributor at the blaze tv. thank you, a caveat here before we do this. as we speak, we are going to play you both this video. and i asked your daughter about playing the video earlier. didn't want to be disrespectful to her. july 17th. i don't want to do it too freak wently. want to warn our audience. it is disturbing. as we talk the video will roll. what is your reaction, sunny, your reaction as you saw what was happening in d.c.? didn't know what was going on? what was going to happen? >> i think that by and large we have seen peaceful protesting. >> because of this. >> we have seen people exercising their constitutional right to assemble and peacefully protest. this sort of -- civil disobedience has been around

forever. thoreau, ghandi, mlk jr. i am encouraged by what i see. also encouraged by the diversity of the protesters. >> yes. in ferguson, like the violence, that's not it. that's not it. this is the way you do it. >> exactly. exactly. >> do you agree? >> yeah, as long as you keep it peaceful. i think that's important. people have hey right to, express their feelings. but my concern about this though is that -- some of this anger is being incited by misinformation, by in citing certain things that just are not necessarily true. you know the hand up don't shoot stuff. that was a fallacy. you know, some of what was going on. that was a fallacy. that did not happen. the forensics didn't prove that. >> i guess the video of white construction worker with his hand up. saying his hand were up you didn't have to shoot. i guess that video was lying. >> no, what i'm saying. >> the protesters to be peaceful. then we should be peaceful.

so here's, here's the thing. >> but let's be accurate. >> we don't want to relitigate what happened. everybody argued the hand up. the hand up has become a message carried across the country because of -- eric garner. because of situations like that. i agree with you. maybe the forensics did not bear it out. but it has gone beyond. >> i don't agree. >> i said maybe. >> there were several witnesses. >> so let's move forward. >> the video. let's be accurate. >> let's move forward now. because there are thousand and thousand of people around the country. something is going on. they're saying hand up, don't shoot. let's live in the moment. and talk what is happening now. i want to talk about. sure you saw the daughter of eric garner here. i asked her several times. because she is not. she doesn't know the media that well. not used to speaking. she said not about racism. it's not about black and white. i wasn't trying to get her to say anything. i wanted to make sure we didn't miscontrue her word. she said this isn't about race,

it is power, abuse of authority. >> i was happy to her her say that. that was encouraging. a lot of people are trying to make this a racial issue. i don't believe it is either. i think there is, i respect his daughter. and my heart breaks for her. the fact that she was that poised, to be able to come out and talk about it that way. i am so glad that, coming from some one who is so directly affected by this, that she said it was not about race, it its about power. we can have that discussion about police brutality and how often that happens. but we need to make sure that we separate the discussions, one at a time. and not conflight the issues and become, you know an explosive situation like it is now. >> you know, i think it is an american issue. i think if you are black, white, purpling, you understand police brutality cannot stand anywhere in our society. but i think we would be remiss to say that, racism and racial bias isn't a part of, of the

injustices in our criminal justice system. we do see police brutality in african-american communities. more often than we see it in white communities. those are just statistics. police, you know, the captain, officer bratton made it clear before the city council in september of 2014. the police are too aggressive in policing minority neighborhood. >> as he said, she watched her dad die on television. she said she watched it over and over and over. >> we have to be mindful of that. y are watching a man die. >> she said the officer was white. her dad is black. and they, they, regardless, she said, she wants the country and the world to know it should be peaceful and we should talk about it. >> that's right. this is an american issue. this is an issue in our american justice system. again, i think everyone should be outraged. i said that from the beginning. everyone should be outraged, when they see not only a chokehold being used, an

aggressive chokehold being used, it was, a procedure that was, you know, prohibited and banned. but also, i think the lack of laid for seven minutes. >> i think there will be legal recour recourse. i thought an indictment should have happened here let it play out in court. i understand the police side of things. i also think they overstepped too. there is a civil, i think, civil liability here. >> possibly federal liability. >> that they why we have federal civil rights division in doj. >> we have to run. look at this. new york city. you see. you heard from -- from correspondents saying people of all different ethnicities. exercising their right to protest. we are going off to continue to carry this. there have been arrests. back to deb feyerick in a minute here. all of the people protesting the chokehold death of eric garner.

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>> breaking news now. look at this. times square, new york city. you see there are some commotion unrest happening. and, we are looking at this video with you. police officers in a confrontation with the protesters. pictures courtesy of wabc. we didn't have control over the pictures. this is what is going on. deborah feyerick is down there in the crowd as well. last time we saw deb, we saw -- people were being arrested and putten plastic constraints. do we have deborah? >> i'm here, don. >> what's going on, deb? >> reporter: don, can you hear me? >> what's going on. >> reporter: we have now, probably two dozen arrests here. these are protesters, they had walked from the west side highway. >> deb, can i ask you something. hate to cut you off. i want to ask you something.

>> yeah, please. go. >> we are looking at, at, live pictures here. not sure exactly where they are in the city. we are seeing, we saw witnessed commotion. and between protesters and police. are you an where near that? we are at times square. police were able to break up the crowd. they were much more aggressive second night. than the first night. protesters began walking up. appears, the nypd may have used ambulances. demonstrators were respectful. when an ambulance would come. they would get on the sidewalk. that's when police eventually enforce blocked the protesters, allowing just a couple through. at a time. thereby breaking up-- the energy. breaking up the numbers. so that, ultimately, the protesters simply became lost. and separated from one another.

when these protesters turned around. you can see -- they keep coming. when they walked back down. they were all arrested. >> what we are looking at. pictures of 7th avenue and 43rd street. again not sure if you are close to it. if you are just tuning in. hang on, deb. want to till our viewers we are looking at pictures from 7th and 33rd in times square. there has been a commotion between a police officers and the protesters. you see the protesters crowded around police cars. there was a big skirmish, just a short time ago. and you see there, some people being arrested at the top of your screen. and being placed in restraints. deborah feyerick, times square. asking an officer why they were arresting them?

again, this its what we are looking at now. and look at the people being pushed up again that police car. that is -- not -- not safe. again this is the first that we have seen, any, any real? >> i was arrested for standing and protesting. >> why were you arrested? >> another officer. >> deb, you are live by the way. >> what were you doing? >> i was walking out -- [ indiscernible ] >> why did they arrest you? >> they wouldn't let us whaalk through times square. what did the other guy say, deborah, deborah feyerick? can you hear me?

we lost communication with deborah feyrick. you can see what is going on in times square. obviously, a very fluid situation. and we, you know, situations like this, we can't always get in contact with our correspondent. you heard deborah feyrick talking to protesters there who had been restrained or, or, arrested. they're saying they wouldn't let us walk through times square. on the right. those are people arrested. on the left of your screen. you are looking at people who are, some of them, appear to be in the, in a squirmish with police officers. and there was a bit rougher, just a short time ago. as we continue to look at these pictures. you can see them putting plastic restraint on the right side of your screen. i want to bring in now jeffrey toobin. keep the pictures up. senior legal analyst here on cnn. and then forensic pathologist. dr. cyril wecht.

jeffrey, to you first. this had been pretty peaceful for the most part in new york city. now we are witnessing this. what do you make of this? >> well, i think it is, it is tense. there is pushing and shoving. but it's -- not, not a dramatic confrontation yet. the police have control. it is getting late. everybody is probably getting tired, cold, frustrated. that could lead to confrontations. the cops are generally behaving very well. and -- the situation -- for the moment. as time passes -- we will leave these pictures up as we talk about this case. we have learned. so, jeffrey, we learned more about the grand jury today. they sat for nine weeks and they

heard from 50 witnesses. 60 exhibits were admitted. and videos. is that normal procedure? >> well it was certainly an extensive grand jury investigation. and the interestingly, it also said -- that, that the release that that came out today from the court that there were four videos shown. i think we have only seen two publicly. they also said they introduced many, many documents relating to -- the official procedures of, of the new york city police department. so -- there was at least presented to the grand jury, the question -- of whether the police officers follow, followed procedure. but what is worth noting is, how much we don't know about the grand jury proceedings. the most important thing is we don't know who testified. we don't know what they said. the transcripts were not released. and they're not going to be released.

22 police officers. 2 civilians. emts, doctors. medical personnel. what they said is unknown. >> jeffrey, stand by. want to bring in dr. cyril wecht. times square, new york city. a bit of a squirmish with police officers, protesters, hearing from deborah feyerick, lost contact with her a little bit. when we get her back we'll bring her in. there have ben arrests. we saw police placing people in plastic restraints. this is all dr. wecht, because of -- because of a chokehold. and how eric garner died. very dangerous. there is a roone theason they w banned. >> yes, chokehold have been banned by all law enforcement agencies. just envision this, getting somebody's neck in the crux of your elbow and squeezing.

not only do you run the risk of breaking the thyroid cartilage. but you are blocking arterial flow off to the brain. you are obstructing venous return back to the heart, and you are pressing on the nerves that come down, one on each side, the vegas nerve, tenth cranial nerve from the brain, enter the chest cavity and control cardiac, respiratory function. that lead to a diminution of respiratory activity, cardiac arrhythmia, and results in death. so you have a man who its pleading that he can't breathe. keep this also in mind. unlike position on asphyxiation, not to excuse that also kind of banned police behavior. but there, police officers are on top of some body. face is down. you don't see it. here you have the chokehold. you are right next to the man's face. and you hear him gasping, you hear his word, for that to not have made an impression on that police officer for him to have released his hold, is absolutely, absolutely

inexplicable. and unacceptable. >> we appreciate your expertise. stand by. dr. cyril wecht. jeffrey toobin. times square. protests have been peaceful. it is nothing compared to what we have seen in ferguson. there have been confrontation with police officers and protesters you. saw some of it live here on cnn. i am sure you will continue to see it as we continue to broadcast here. the streets of new york. all across the country. people are coming out. protesting the chokehold death of eric garner. we are going to be back live with these pictures. and also -- some very interesting comments from ann ccoulter. -- ann coulter. ♪ they cut the power. it'll fix itself. power's back on.

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>> i'm don lemon. back now live with pictures of what is happening in new york city. people are out en masse. what you are looking at now, times square, where there have been confrontations with police officers. we'll continue to follow the developments here on cnn. but i want my next guest to weigh in. joining me now is ann coulter author of "never trust a liberal

over 3, especially a republican." do you think the officer should have been indicted? >> i am not sure. i will tell you why i reacted the way i think everyone did. five guys, for selling untapped cigarettes. and i, i think you have made a very good point. i was watching you last night. saying, would this have happened if he was white? i say, yes. and i would also add to this, why is it that "the new york times" and msnbc were not using this as the the case. this, the eric garner case is what they claimed ferguson was, but is not. here it is a gentle giant. here really is police aggression. i submit to you because these police were collecting taxes. you will never see fascism as a liberal trying to got your taxes. they do the same thing with ez pass. by the way there has been violence for untaxed cigarettes against other races mostly the indians. >> what i hear you saying is there is, there was some

ambiguity in ferguson. because of the, got inside the police car, reached for the officer's gun, there was a fighten the police car, and there is no videotape. this one, there is videotape. you saw the guy. it's pretty plain and simple. >> i saw the video of, i think it is more than videotape. no videotape. we do know, there are facts about ferguson. >> talking about videotape staten island. >> but here, i think everyone's reaction. the reason people are outraged. is because this was to collect taxes. if you knew that, eric garner for exam pu for example if they were arresting a rapist or some one who committed assault. maybe it wasn't excessive. what makes the video shocking. are you kidding me to collect taxes to pay for public sector union pensions. not the only place you will see it. give you another example. >> they should have written him a citation. frankly, i don't think they should be so pissy about untaxed

cigarettes. bloomberg wanted it. he is anti-smoking. liberals want the tax money. >> to buy a pack of cigarettes. cost you $12, $13. >> you find this all the time. liberals collecting taxes, and ez pass. aclu suedes to prevent ez pass being used to catch a rapist and murderer. but they use ez pass all the time to nail people for being new york residents to collect taxes. >> want to play this for you. get everything in here. former mayor of new york city, rudolph giuliani, and lashed out, to de blasio. let's listen. >> if he wants to train young black men in how to avoid being killed in the city, talk about police. police should never kill any body unjustifiably. i have put them in jail when that happens. you should spend 90% of your time talking about the way they're actually going to get killed which is by another

black. to avoid that fact, to avoid that fact, i think is racist. >> so he characterized that as racist. he said, he has characterized the mayor's response as racist. do you think the may your's response is racist? >> i think it was pompous and uncalled for. i don't think this has anything to do with racism. and de blasio, actually talking about this is what i was elected for as if he is martin luther king. give me a break. 12% of the city voted for you because people weren't paying attention. he gets in on a fluke. if obama is going to attack republicans in the midterm election for turnout being down. which it wasn't. >> are you blaming this on de blasio. >> no, commenting on what he is saying. all i am saying. thought he was pompous before. i think he is more pompous now. >> did you watch the daughter of eric gaern rner earlier? >> no, i didn't. thought it was aabuse of authority. not about race. i have 20 second. >> i hesitate.

should he be indicted. the way i feel about the cops is the way i feel about airport security guards. it's not their fault they're being forced to enforce, stupid, stupid lawsable. you will never see fascism like a liberal trying to collect taxes. and that's what we are seeing here. >> you need a little more passion. >> yes, i do. >> thank you. >> thank you. good to see you. >> good to see you. we'll continue to follow breaking new. we'll be right back here on cnn. i can... order safety goggles. play music for seedlings. post science fair projects. schedule guinea pig feedings. video chemical reactions.

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>> live pictures. protests in new york city over the chokehold death of eric garner.

and grand jury not indicting the officer who caused the death. i will get now to the streets of new york. deborah feyerick in the crowds. deborah witnessed arrest moments ago. what are you seeing in times square? >> this is what happened. all the police here in times square. 7th and broadway. 42nd street. a number of the demonstrators refused to get out of the street. police officers pulling them to the ground. handcuffing them individually. we saw two dozen arrests. people saying they were just standing there. they were doing nothing. what they weren't doing. they weren't on the sidewalk. that's what police wanted them. almost seemed, police were zero tolerance in terms of what we saw last time. you can see right here. you have police officers. crowd on the other side. police did disperse a number of the crowds. it was -- couple of hundred strong. and then they were, sort of, keeping people at the corners, refusing to let them go. so, you ended up, happening. a lot of the