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garner. and grand jury not indicting the officer who caused the death. i will get now to the streets of new york. deborah feyerick in the crowds. deborah witnessed arrest moments ago. what are you seeing in times square? >> this is what happened. all the police here in times square. 7th and broadway. 42nd street. a number of the demonstrators refused to get out of the street. police officers pulling them to the ground. handcuffing them individually. we saw two dozen arrests. people saying they were just standing there. they were doing nothing. what they weren't doing. they weren't on the sidewalk. that's what police wanted them. almost seemed, police were zero tolerance in terms of what we saw last time. you can see right here. you have police officers. crowd on the other side. police did disperse a number of the crowds. it was -- couple of hundred strong. and then they were, sort of, keeping people at the corners, refusing to let them go. so, you ended up, happening. a lot of the protesters got separated from one another.
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but again. got a lot of arrests here in times square. >> deb feyerick. top of the hour. watching cnn tonight. 11:00 p.m. east coast. live coverage of the protests that are happening all over the country this evening. you are looking at pictures now from times square. meantime, go to cnn's reporter, brook, you were in china town, near china town, what's going on where you are? brooke baldwin. we have been walking with the people for six hours. we talked six miles. we have gone into brooklyn. now back in manhattan. ahead of me if you know the lay of the land, this is china town. we are about to watch the arrests. surrounded by new york police. who have given these hundreds of people all night long. the freedom. and the openness to walk around.
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to shut down. this group shut down the brooklyn bridge. we walked into brooklyn. the group shuttle down the manhattan bridge. we walked over the manhattan bridge. and i don't know, don. walk with me. we'll watch this together live. there are all cardboard coffins which we saw them lay out in the middle of atlantic avenue. in brooklyn. right over by the barclay's center. they all stopped speaking. we well all just watch this together. they're placing now the coffins in front of themselves. they're seated in the middle of the -- of the -- >> what are they chanting, brooke? >> stopping traffic here. let me try to listen. ♪ weave ain ain't going to stop people are free ♪ now i'm in the struggle saying i
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can't breathe ♪ ♪ we ain't going to stop until people are free ♪ ♪ we aein't going to stop until people are free ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i can't breathe ♪ now i'm in a struggle saying i can't breathe ♪ >> here we go. i am going to step away. >> they're arresting people next to you. >> they're beginning the arrests. they're beginning. this is the first. with the plastic handcuffs. as you watch this. there is a woman in a green hat. these people in the green hats are lawyers. this is how it was explained
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earlier. what they're doing is they're asking each of these individuals, who are being arrested for their names. so they can then go find them. a little later tonight and tomorrow. but now you can see. this is the first time i have to say. we have been out here six hours. i have not seen a single arrest. here i am seeing an entire, yes, sir. seeing this entire area. people in the green hats are lawyers. are they there to monitor, to make sure people's right are not violated. keep an eye on officers. >> that's exactly right. but most importantly. excuse me. walk and talk to you. most importantly is for once the people, once the people sort of presume the people would be, arrested. walking around the crowds. going to fry try to talk to her. getting their names so they can help them get out of jail. excuse me. excuse me. ma'am, may i ask you, we are live on cnn right now.
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can you tell me what you are doing. >> i am a legal observer with the national lawyers guild. if you have questions -- >> you are helping them -- >> i am a legal observer. i observe the situation. eye h . >> that was the gist of what we got, don. here we go. >> brooke, stand by. i will keep you with me for a bit here. >> watch this. >> so, brooke baldwin is in china town. and the protesters sat in the middle of the street. and they do the mock demonstration of just laying there. brook, you are still on. how many people are with you. how many people are they putting in classic restraints. >> lot me take a look. they're taking away the coffins
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lech let me count. at least 20 people. i have to say, mostly, young -- multiple ethnicities. all sitting here. excuse me. excuse me. we will leave your picture up. and we will get back to brooke baldwin. a 12-year-old boy was shot and killed. he was holding a toy gun. police say the officer thought it was a real weapon. now, we have learned that officer timothy lohman resend two years ago from a different police department because he was about to be fired for what was described as immaturity on the job. i am joined now by pastor c.j.
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matthews. minister to his family. thank you for joining me tonight. as you watch this all over the country. you think what happened with eric garner, and tamir, ferguson, missouri. what are your thoughts right now, pastor? how unfortunate. we are having to take time and energy away from things that could be much more productive. to critique the relationship between the law enforcement community and the african-american community. in the case of tamir rice, the young child. once again we find ourselves in similar situations. though the connections may not be exact. the fact that it continues to happen repeatedly.
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as you are seeing, it is time for change. >> what's your message to police all over the country. >> i think if i were sitting with a group of officers as i have in the past, we as a community would love to see officer friendly in our community. and unfortunately, because of the antagonistic relationship between law enforcement and the african-american community, tonight we fiend ourselves once again, mourning the loss, senselessly of some one who could be alive today. if he had been arrested an not cited would have made bail probably on a personal bond. at home with his family. now once again we are mourning. and in the case of young tamir rice, unfortunately, it was unnecessary. unfortunate. when children cannot play at a rec center where can they go? >> pastor jay matthews.
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thank you so much. and as you can understand. i want to spend more time with you. because of the breaking news we need to got to this. >> i understand. >> our thoughts are with the family. if we can get you back. we will. thank you so much. okay. >> thank you. >> thank you. want to get back to brooke baldwin in china town in manhattan. brook spechlt. what have you got? >> we just, we have been walking with this group, don, for at least sex hours. this group, young, men, women, old, black, hispanic. a diverse group. started six hours age where we ended uh. where the group has stopped has been on the brooklyn side of the manhattan bridge. where they have just come back from brooklyn. hadn't seen a single arrest all night. we have been walking for six hours.
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they started singing. placed cardboard coffins in front of them. what are the coffins signify. and they had each of the different boroughs written on the coffins in different names. different young people. shot by police. shot and killed. they placed the coffins. so make sure i am out of the way of the police. take the coffins down. as they were singing. one by one. police were telling them to get up. they wouldn't. and they were holding hand. police started to pull out the plastic handcuffs. and, one by one. began to place the handcuffs on their wrists. pull them off the ground. place them and the patrol cars and arrest them. so that is what we have seen. again, i just want to emphasize. all night. it has been quite a sight to see. entirely peaceful.
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but, finally here at hour six. mile six. we are watching 20 people. >> happening behind you. we saw arrests. times square. placing plastic restraints on, on protesters as well. right behind you. a lot of police officers. folks in the green hat. attorneys. watching out. getting the names of the protesters. making sure their civil rights are taken care of. take us as far into the scene as you can. >> making sure, somebody wants to stand up here. they can do so. exactly right. so the green hats are for people watching out for those being arrested. let's be clear. s they been incredibly. i think well orchestrate the. and, organized. and also, i think, a lot of the people, i can't tell you for sure. but i think a lot of times when
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you know you are shutting down major thur troroughfares in manhattan. people knew full well probability was out there they would be arrested. what happened here. these people. for the most part. people have intentionally shut down a lot of bridges knowing protesters what want to march whchlt th when they come back from brooklyn into manhattan. they went directly into traffic. and this is when they sat done and got arrested. >> hold the thought. come right back. short break. don't go anywhere. breaking news here on cnn.
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>> breaking news tonight here on cnn. looking at pictures of new york city. that's time square. we want to got sue some unrest now. we see some unrest happening all over the city. this is, now, let's go downtown where brooke baldwin is. brooke is in chinatown. brooke, looking at people in plastic restraints. there were arrests happening. what's going on? >> sorry, officer, yes. exactly right. be asked to step a little away from what is happening. i will do exactly that. i am here. we are on the brooklyn side of
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the manhattan bridge. this way is china town. this is brooklyn. this group. noticed. walking and marching. group of hundreds of people. a group of 20, 25 people sat in the middle of this j of the manhattan bridge. the rest of the group has since left. so they have moved on. you know, this group started in one place. splintered off. so now what you are seeing, which is unlike anything i have seen so far. really majority police. and in the middle. what you can't see. we are, obeying the police. not getting any closer. what you can't see. is 10 plus people. seated. holding hands. still singing. about -- racist police. that's, just what they have been singing about over and over and over. you can still hear them. we aren't going to stop until people are free. this is what they're singing.
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and, we're watching. we saw police asking them to get up. we saw them, what, what appeared to be reading them their rights. can't tell you for sure. and then they began placing those, plastic handcuffs on their wrists. and are walking each of them out. >> brook. i want you to stay there. and we are going to, go to going to other folks. stay there. keep an eye on that. we'll get back to you. okay. i want to bring in now, cnn commentator, mel robbins, tom verni, former commissioner, bernard careck, and cornell belcher. guys, here we go, tom,s a formerp course, what is yoform tom, as a former cop, what's your reaction? >> this is not unexpected. natural reaction to the verdict, as the it was in ferguson to the verdict. i have to say, you would find it, be hard pressed to find a police department that could handle a situations like the
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nypd. you can see that these protests have been largely peaceful. there have been arrests, but not mass arrests. no one, to my knowledge has been injured. not severely. there has been no property damage that i am aware of. the police department does a fantastic job. when they are faced with -- large crowd like this. trying to keep them safe. one thing about the demonstration. generally. as mentioned yesterday. under normal circumstances you would have a permit. know how many people marching. have enough police, police that event. in a safe manner. here, you are talking thousand of people just, aimlessly, wand earring round the city. and that's, that's chaotic in a city like new york city you have 8 million to 10 million people on any given day to begin with. congestion. traffic. trying to keep them safe to protest freely. >> talk charges here, for the protesters. what is it, i don't know. obstruction, what, what were the
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charges? i was a public defender in new york. what they may not know. courts run 24 hours a day in new york. you can handle arraignments. you have to process people, within 24 hours of arrest. you got to get them in front of a judge. i suspect, don, most people beg arrested unless they get violent. most folks are going to got a desk arraignment ticket. it basically means the police give you a ticket to come back at a later date to be arraigned in criminal court. and i would find it shocking if any of these people are charged with anything other than disorderly conduct. and unless you have somebody with a long criminal record, don. nothing is going to happen to them. they'll probably be dismissed outright by the prosecutor's office. the protesters getting to voice
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their opinion and police doing what they're doing. >> i'm sure most people involved would rather not see any arrests. that happens. it doesn't appear to be violent. we don't know until we get specifics m from my vantage point. from what i am hearing from the folks in the field. doesn't appear to be any violence here. cornell belcher, quite different than what we witnessed in, in, ferguson? >> yeah, i think, first of all. look. kudos, hats off to new york city police department and the mayor's office. hats off to the guys in blue. women in blue. doing an excellent job. and also think, it is important here. i think this is actually. a very sad event that, that has brought this about. but i think, there is something larger here. more important. as a -- as americans. look. we got people, regular people,
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crazily taking to the street they feel as though our system has done something that is injust. our system has not been fair. and, there is nothing more beautiful than, than americans sort of taking to the street. >> cornell. >> and i have got to get to bernie. we are understanding the pictures that we saw from times square. officers were, taking pictures of the crowd. what is ham penni ihappening wi police department, describe what is going on? >> basically people will be taken into custody. as one of your other guests said. for disorderly conduct. >> guy on top of the vans. why there a taking pictures? >> they're taking videos and photos to protect staff. their own people. and also, to protect the -- the, the protesters as well. they can ensure there is no rough play. no negative team. as everybody has to agree -- the cops are doing their job.
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they're doing what they're supposed to. and -- and everything is going pretty smooth. >> police are in control? >> yeah, they're in control. they have, they have done their job. they'll continue to do it. and -- they'll be fine. >> stand by. all of my guests, we are going to be right back with our breaking news after this. people taking to the streets. seeing arrests in new york. we will check in on other cities as well. introducing... a pm pain reliever that dares to work all the way until... the am. new aleve pm the only one to combine a safe sleep aid
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our breaking news tonight. protests in the streets of new york city and the country over the chokehold death of eric garner. brooke baldwin in lower manhattan. she had been witnessing some arrests. we'll got to brook now. what's going on, brooke. >> what happened in the last couple second. we have the line of two lines of, new york police officers. if you can see they're continuing to arrest. watching. continuing to show you. nearly two dozen protesters. essentially, staged a sit in here. on the brooklyn bound side of the manhattan bridge. also just happened. photo-journalists. this massive white bus has just rolled out.
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all these individuals being taken away. mostly young. young white woman beg arreing arrested. young african-american. i have seen, 20 or so sat down. started singing. peacefully. still they were entirely blocking traffic. new york police asked them to leave. continue to block traffic. continue to sing. they're still, watching. here comes another one. in between the rows of officers arresting them. and are loading them in this big white correction bus. don't want you to go anywhere. brooke. rely on you to bring information down there. stand by. may use your camera as well. want to get my panel in. guests here. become to mel robbins, tom verni, and cornell belcher. so we are seeing here -- what police have planned. new york city police officers, police department deals with the issues all the time and crowds.
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>> we have specialized training for the cops. you know, in, in -- in, in riot control. they have demonstrations you. can see that in the way the cops are responding. >> cornell, you know, as, we have been sort of comparing -- what has happened, what we saw play out in ferguson. what we saw play out here. it is a tale of two cities. beauty of it. brook was talking about it. white people. black, being arrested. beauty of it. a lot of times. a political hack as you know. i will go to the politics of it. a lot of times we look to put people. sort of tribalize, and put people in their corners and make political calculations. a lot of the politicians sitting back. trying to figuree out, their political calculations here. and thought that, sort of the, the downside for weighing into,
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an issue look this. when you see the diverse, mass of young people. i think a lot of politicians are going to have to recalculate. rethink about their political calculations here. and perhaps even show some leadership around here. in a way that, that is going to be, hopefully stark and different. can bring about change. >> tom. i watched the mayor yesterday. watched the may your today. interviewed the police commissioner yesterday. listened to him doing press today. these officials are not tone deaf. you know the police commissioner, he is really sort of caught in the middle here, right? they're not tone deaf as the to what is going on. >> i don't see how you could be. when in you have thousand of people marching through the middle of your city. you have to take notice of that. they are going to have to respond. look, the pressure is on for them to respond in some way. you just can't ignore what
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happened here. same way you can't in ferguson. there are reasons why they unfolded in ferguson. same way in staten island. these are going to have to be reviewed. training is going to have to be reviewed. policy, procedure will have to be review. you just can't ignore what happened here. and just, pretend to move on like nothing happened. >> can i ask you something. what, what do police officers, you see batons. we are seeing different. not seeing the type of -- combat gear or, to the extremes that we saw in ferguson. and then, beyond that, talk to me about this training. this three day training. that officers are going to get after this. >> the quement you see, don, is basically, for, for protests. the equipment you see, don, is basically for protests. we talked about it in the early days of ferguson. in the first day. the ferguson response was -- was, really overboard. this is -- what it should have
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been. this type of response. as far as the training that officers will get. that's something that the police commissioner is going to put in place. you know, keep in mind, don, as -- as tom could, would probably agree. these cops get an enormous amount of training. sensitivity training. verbal judo training. things cops don't get anywhere else in the country. so this will be added training to what they already get. >> mel, how do you -- how do you train or, untrain -- some one, something that you may have learned from your mom or dad or something that you, that you, understand where i am going with this? >> yeah, i do. you are talking about. yeah, i think that you, you can teach people through great leadership. one of the things that i am really struck by watching images that you are playing, don.
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notice how relaxed the officers are. notice how, this looks more like a parade. than a protest. such a great reminder. so glad to be seeing this happening. we have been seeing people put in buckets. either anti-cop/pro cop. you are against what happened or for the police. it is wonderful that people are expressing sadness, outrage. anger. their constitutional right. what i feel about this -- this, this travesty. that thap pennhappened in the er case. so much bigger of in issue than just race. or even just brutality here. this is a reminder to people. i think. >> yeah.
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diversity of new york city. you see people out. it is everybody. everybody from all over the world. comes. we all co-exist together. again, obviously we have our issue. we would not be on television. at 11:31. easte eastern time on a thursday night. deborah feyerick. times square and what's going on now. deb? hey, don. regular police have steppeden for the riot police. it has really been actually very tense. very aggressive here. there is one particular captain that has, that has a zero tolerance policy. he has been telling people to get on the sidewalk. if they step off halfway. they will be arrested. really angered and upset the crowd. they're marching to protest. voice their discontent and anger. police are being told.
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step in. form a barricade. not let any body off the sidewalk. as a matter of fact we were also told if we stepped into the street. that we also would be arrested. this is not the tone we saw last night. which was the police sort of taking, sort of the step back. letting the protesters do what they needed to do. now, this is their, the police are making sure that the protesters, know where they belong. they don't belong in the street. they belong on the sidewalk. and it is actually created much more hostility tonight than weep saw last night. so, but, right now it is about 11:30. as you say, don. usually, it wraps up around midnight. what we saw last night. we don't know whether that will be the case. but, police are doing their best they cshut this down.
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thank you, deb dpchltfeyerick. deb is tired. the difference. protesters have been peaceful as well. people are not throwing jars and rocks, and, and, and other things at police officers. so it is a different -- definitely a different scene. more on our breaking news when we come back. my guests here on cnn. we will get to all of that. also we will talk to oliver stone. he will weigh in on the protests and the chokehold death of eric garner when we come back. also want to talk about sunday night here on cnn. cnn heroes. all-star tribute. honors the top ten heroes of 2014. celebrity presenters join cnn heroes every day people doing extraordinary things to help change the word. here is cnn's anderson cooper with the always outspoken, and freak weand -- frequently inappropriate kathy griffin. >> you have been trying to again involved with heroes for a long time now. >> first of all you have a lot of nerve of bringing up heroes to me. talk about a wounded warrior,
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okay. i have been wanting to p ing tia heroes forever. a truly amazing award show. i believe i confronted you new year's eve. >> let's talk abut mooe rose. cnn heroes amazing show. >> amazing night. >> number one, not only was i not even invilted. >> what do you mean not invited. >> they told me that they didn't trust me. >> did people not know that you were volunteering and going overseas sue afghanistan and iraq. >> i guess over at cnn you are so worried about my potty mouth. they actually said you can't come to the show or present. however, what if we showed you mopping up at a soup kitchen. >> to make up for past wrongs. i would very much look you to present at cnn heroes. something you want to do? >> you trust me? >> absolutely trust you. >> i'm excited to go. >> glad you will be there. >> do i have to mop the floors? >> no. >> just tell me? >> no.
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oliver stone, award winning director, producer, screenwriter and author of the untold history of the united states. young readers edition. thank you for joining me. you know in the last week, we have seen protests and rioting in ferguson, missouri, new york. really across the nation. after two grand jury decisions not to indict white police officers in the death of black men. do you think the cases are more about race or america's law enforcement. i think it is racial. it goes back over many years. the way we enforce the law. we do militaryize the police. since we have been, our empire involved in wars overseas. a huge amount of equipment going to the police forces which they dent need. to protect the people and to serve the people. on the can traer, thontrary, th. i am a white man in los angeles when i drive around.
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>> i was speaking to a young mother before this program. she said she watched what happened in ferguson. she said, don, i sat done and watched you. i real ied my kids needed to see this. i realized my kids needed to see this. this is history in the making. had i been around during the civil rights movement. i would have wanted my parents to sit me in front of the television. what do you make of what is going on in america. do you think, obviously progressed in some ways. i would look to got your take on that. >> well, the big, the big take. is that well are frying to say we are an empire. we are spread all over the word. we are spending fortunes on foreign wars and mant nanintena foreign bases trying to control, police the world, control through regime change. propaganda, news. giving our young people a view of the world with america as the the savior of the world. which is what woodrow wilson called it. we can't be. we have to look at the world through humbler eyes.
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or compassion that eyes. we have to look at the people of our own country with the same eyes. we have to understand that we are people together. we are not, not fighting in the, for a control of the world. we should be fighting to improve ourselves. to build up our own society. that include fergusons of the world. that include the young people. the reason you have been duke the series. for the first time since grand grant was president. america is not the leading economic power on the planet. the chinese e can economy overe united states to be largest in the world. we would talk, american exceptionalism. kids group in america. does that frighten you for the future of america and the children in this country? >> not at all. no, i mean economies. the american dollar is psychologically the strongest currency, the basket, everyone goes to, not everyone, most everyone. what scares me is america's
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military power. it is enormous. ten times larger than china and russia. we have ability to terminate life on the planet. we have nuclear capacity to do so. also through, through our missions, we have tremendous say in how this world is going. the planet might be ending. in a habitable way. within the next 100 years. this is very, very bothersome. we control our future. we control the destiny of the planet. by making enemies. we are looking for enemies. and taking the, the -- the concentration that we need now to take care of ourselves. you mentioned russia several times. you know, just in that last, that last response. on a recent trip to russia. you met vladamir putin now. you want to make a documentary on him. why?
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i met mr. putin. he gave me half an hour of his time. i want to -- i think there has been a lot of misreporting. you will find there is provocations that the united states made in ukraine. that made the russians react this way. i am trying. i believe in piece. i believe in freedom. i love my country. i would love the country to be strong, secure, not at the expense of other people. >> can i talk to you about hollywood now, something that is, it's important. but a little less heavy. are you living your direct torl dream rig -- dream, is there something out there that you haven't done? >> i enjoyed making documentaries same time as features. documentaries seeing the world. i made them on castro, as you know, on chavez, and the seven
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other presidents now, that took oaf in latin america 2000. untold history has been greatest achievement for me. i have taken all my theme from the movies and put them into a 12 hour series. so proud of it. each, each, each of the hours is like a little movie. a big movie. and it says a lot. i hope children will look and reading this. adults too. watching this for, into the future. >> what about us old guys. t thumbing through. >> you are the guys who can be changed too. a lot of people have read this book. millions of people have seen it on tv. and, and dvd. now the book is important. >> yeah, thank you, oliver stone "the untold history of the united states." really appreciate your time here on cnn. thanks. >> thank you, don. >> we have much more on the breaking news now. protests in new york city. also we are going to have the very latest on bill cosby.
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we get back to our breaking news on cnn, protests in the streets of new york and across the country over the chokehold death of eric gaerrner. i want to get to cnn's chris welsh, he is walking the streets of new york. what's your location and what's going on, chris? >> well, don, we are in lower manhattan. we really just left one police plaza, where it seemed like
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things we s were kind of dying . we were at foley square earlier tonight. when the huge rally began. there were easily more than 1,000 people. that group diverged into two large groups that moved through. one went across the brooklyn bridge, came back into the manhattan side, over the manhattan bridge. there was a second group that we followed that meandered through, lower manhattan, and the financial district here. that's -- that's what we -- essentially -- now, it looks like there are police behind us now, don. i want to show you that. sorry. trying to displace people here. >> and chris -- in your shot we were seeing officers. this is obviously coordinated. chris is walking up from lower manhattan. there is a police officer on a bull horn. if you look at the right of your screen. times square. dispersing the crowd with a big speaker there.
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new york city police department trying to get people off the streets. our chris welsh walking up again. chris, protesters are out. they're not budging, right? >> well, i won't say, it is a smaller group. couple hundred people here. they're not done for the night. we heard many of them talking that they wanted to continue moving. and move up town. going to try to get closer here to get a better view, don. chris, as you do that. we are going to -- we are going to stretchep a way for a moment. we'll get back to chris welsh as he continues to report there. we'll keep our eye on this story. i want to break away for a second here. if something happens we will not miss it. i want to talk about accusations against bill cosby. 20 women have come forward. and joining me civil rights attorney, gloria allred.
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gloria, you understand that we may have to break away if something happens as we keep our eye on this. and so, stand by, gloria. hold on. we'll got to gloria in a second. this is arrests happening in lower manhattan now. >> he's not resisting! he's not resisting! >> just back up. right now they're asking all of us, protesters, media here, stay on the sidewalk at this point. >> again you hear people -- saying well are not resisting arrest. this guy being arrested. >> people, a lot of anger. lot of tension going on right now. chris, stand by.
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>> i imagine people who stayed are some of the more passionate. >> keep an eye on it. gloria allred represents one of the women involved with one, three of the women i should say involved -- accusing bill cosby of -- abusing them sexually. so, there are now at least 20 women coming forward accusing bill cosby of sexual misconduct? you are representing three of them. do you think any of the women will be able to have their day in court? >> well, only if bill cosby agra agrees to waive and give up statute of limitations defense. in other word say that, even though they're no longer within the time period, for which they could file a lawsuit that he will give up that defense. and he will invite them to go ahead and file a lawsuit against him. and invite all others so this can be lit gatd igated in a cou law, a judge, jury will decide. or done confidentiality.
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>> what are your chances? he hasn't budged? what are the odds? >> well, actually i am glad he ha not said anything so far or his attorney hasn't said anything owe far. i hope they're seriously kidding it. both are very reasonable alternatives. both are alternative employed by some people in the past. i have done that. so for two of my clients. they would be, essentially time barred. but for one who alleges that what happened few her happened when she was 17, she would possibly have a window, an open window of opportunity, to file a lawsuit. if she can -- meet the requirements of california law which essentially grants a longer different period of time for personals who can, prove that they're victims of child sexual abuse. >> gloria? >> -- only discover injuries were caused by the abuse within the last three years.
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>> gloria, hate to rush you. we have breaking news. we'll have you back. >> i get. thank you so much. >> today, sat down with five women accusing bill cosby. they told me and told my colleague, in their own word, what they say cosby did to them and what they want to happen to him. listen. do you think he should say something, yes, no, or you don't care? >> i don't care. as long as it is long and painful and i think that -- he never cared what happened to us. >> barbara? >> we suffered, collectively, hundred of years of horrible intestinal emotional strife because of what this man put all of us through. and the hundreds that haven't come forward yet. i want him to suffer. suffer like we have all suffered. all these years. you can ask any of these women.
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how were your relationships, how were your marriages, jobs, psyches. >> huh were your dreams? >> i am having nightmares. waking up, 3:00 in the morning, 4:00 in the morning, having nightmares thinking that, bad things are going to happen. >> i thought what you said was so profound. >> what i want to happen? >> i want him to get well. >> it is not going to happen. not going to happen. >> i know, i am living in a fantasy world. >> like narcissism. there is no cure. personality disorders can be modified through maybe 25 years of behavioral therapy. but it is only superficial. they lack personal insight. >> i think it is remarkable, that first of all, we are very, very grateful to be here and to be heard. and to watch the masses finally listening.
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>> you are also starting an important conversation. you are breaking boundaries. i really think that. >> yes. it is so important. as the happy as we are to be here. it is really sad. >> to keep talking and explaining why, and -- and, this, this, this, shift in culture. and shift in education. for younger people. teaching what to look out for. as well as embracing the victims in the world who have no voice. i hope that we are creating a new platform for the people. i am not alone the i don't need to be alone any more. it wasn't my fault. >> you can see our special, the cosby show, a legend under fire. monday night. 9:00 p.m. eastern. to join the conversation you can engage with us on twitter using #k #k #koz c -- #-cosbyunderfire.
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>> welcome back now to our breaking news coverage on cnn.
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footage of breaking news earlier on times square where some protesters went up against police officers. there have been some arrests tonight. we don't have actual numbers but we'll continue to follow that for you. our coverage continues in the cnn sentner atlanta. >> welcome to our viewer es in the united states and of course all around the world. i'm rosemary church. >> i'm errol barnett. we're here with you for the next four hours. the first thing we want to do is get you back to new york city. there you're seeing and hearing the scenes that have played out over the past few hours. we're seeing much about the chokehold death of eric garner.