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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. in washington and 6:00 p.m. in london and 9:00 p.m. in moscow. from wherever you're watching around the world, thank you for joining us. up first, shades of the civil rights marches of the 1960s confronting the tensions of 2014. protesters here in the united states expected to stage another day of marches, sit-ins and so-called die-ins over the chokehold death of eric garner. the grand jury's decision in new york city not to indict the police officer involved in garner's death set off a wave of '60s style demonstrations. the latest protests in new york were mostly peaceful but some of them were disrupted. at least 200 people were arrested overnight. protesters also took to the streets and several other major cities across the united states.
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supporters of the officer at the center of the firestorm, they are coming to his defense. the head of the patrolman's benevolent association in new york describes officer pantaleo even as an eagle scout. new york city police officers are getting a refresh you are course in the proper use of force. the police commissioner says the entire force is being retrained. protesters, meanwhile, are calling for reform in the wake of garner's death. they are hoping to keep up the pressure on the police. we'll get the latest on the protests, the grand jury decision that set them all off in this report from cnn's alexandra field. >> reporter: protesters in cuffs across new york. >> they wouldn't let us walk through times square. >> reporter: after some seven hours of marching. police cracking down as thousands of protesters gathered
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for a second night. standoffs but no serious violence replicated across the country. nationwide, outrage, garner's daughter says, she appreciates. >> this is not a black and white issue. this is a national crisis. protesters clashed with police after shutting down a major thoroughfare. and in d.c., protesters stage a die-in only walks away from the white house. all of this after a grand jury declined to indict officer daniel pantaleo in the chokehold death of eric garner. the grand jury sat for nine weeks hearing from a total of 50 witnesses, 22 civilians and medical personnel. 60 exhibits were admitted into evidence including videos, records involving policies and procedures and garner's medical
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records and photographs of the scene. but the details of that evidence remains sealed. >> what video was they watching. >> reporter: the department of justice launching a federal investigation. >> there is deep unfairness when it comes to the gap trebetween professed ideals. >> reporter: new york mayor bill de blasio ordering a retraining of the 35,000 officers. >> we're changing how our officers talk with residents of the city, changing how they listen. >> reporter: and attorney general eric holder calling for reform. >> there are real practical and concrete measures that can be taken. >> reporter: they say it's needed nationwide. >> when we shine a spotlight on the criminal justice system, when we shine a spotlight on the
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experiences of people, it points to a very big problem. >> reporter: in ohio, a nearly two-year investigation found what they call a pattern of excessive force by police caused by insufficient accountability, inadequate training and inactive policies. the naacp is investigating racist text messages exchanged by several deputies. >> what do apples and black people have in common? they both hang from trees. >> reporter: the montgomery county sheriff has come out to say that those text messages have tarnished the office but words are not enough to soothe the tensions. protester protests are planned in 11 other cities. wolf? >> we'll have coverage,
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obviously, of that. alexandra field in times square for us, thank you very much. we're also hearing from the mother of eric garner about his death at the hands of police. she's expressing pride in the way protesters have responded and anger over the way her son died on cnn's new day earlier today she said the police officer who subdued garner overreacted. >> if you look at pantaleo, he's a little man and he sneaked up behind my son and grabbed him, which he didn't have to do that. my son was no threat at that time. if you look at the video, he's talking to them but he has his hands up at all times. they know that he wasn't going to try to attack them on anything. he wanted to be a hero and he went behind him and put him in a chokehold and brought him down. and then he wouldn't let him go. as my son begged for his life. he still held on. it was like a thrill kill. >> gwen carr applauded the
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demonstrators as she got to meet them up close during a traffic jam caused by the protesters. >> the traffic was held up, the protesters was walking past us. i had to let my window down. the first person who recognized me was a white gentleman. he came and said this is eric garner's mother. he came over and went to shake my hand. other protesters wanted to take a picture with me. i was sitting in the car and i was so thrilled, so thrilled even to be held up in traffic and they were coming by and they were standing for my son. i thank them so very much. keep up the good work. >> race relations in the united states are dominating the conversation right now coast-to-coast and indeed around the world people are reacting and now we're hearing more from a potential 2016 presidential
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candidates. we're also hearing from one former u.s. president. >> we have allowed our criminal justice system to get out of balance. and i personally hope that these tragedies give us the opportunity to come together as a nation to find our balance again. >> there are legal standards for a grand jury indictment but also a standard in that the police department should have for what kind of force is acceptable or unacceptable. and i think really to calm down the reaction to this, one thing that could happen is the police could say, this is unacceptable for a policeman and we can't have this type of an individual on the police force. >> i had dinner the other night and we talked about this subject. she just said, you've got to understand that there are a lot
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of black folks around that are just incredibly or and more distrusting of law enforcement. >> he was referring to condoleezza rice. george bush is a special guest on "state of the union" with candy crowley sunday morning at 9:00 a.m. today, new york city kicked off a pilot program to wearing body cameras. >> i'm minding my business, officer. please leave me alone. i told you the last time, please leave me alone. don't touch me. do not touch me.
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>> but the eric garner encounter with the police, all of which was caught on several different cell phone video, not body cameras, raises the question on whether it will help the police. this man spent 28 years with the nypd building his way all the way up to becoming chief of department. chief, thanks very much for joining us. first of all, before we get into some of the bigger questions, these body cameras, the experiment of using body cameras for the cops to walk around with these cameras, what do you make of that? >> well, you know, potentially it has a good effect. but like you said, this incident was caught on video. it was the ultimate body camera. and when the decision from the grand jury to not indict, it spurred a lot of mistrust or the increasing mistrust of the criminal justice system.
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i think it's how you apply it and what you do with the evidence that you come across, these body cameras, are they going to be the true test. >> if you're a street cop, do you want to walk around manhattan always knowing that everything you're doing is being recorded? >> well interestingly, wolf, i went to a conference in texas, at houston, about six months ago. and my initial reaction was that police officers were not going to want to wear these body cameras. when i went down to this conference, i met with some of my peers and police chiefs who have been utilizing this. they said the reaction to the police officers was quite welcoming. and after they had it for more months, officers were volunteering for it. so the initial response would be it's new. we don't know how it's going to be used or utilized against us but i think the more we start to use them, the more the police officers will be receptive to
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wearing them. >> i want you to stand by for a moment, chief banks. we have a lot more to discuss. major issues. you have unique perspective, 28 years in the nypd building your way up to becoming chief of department. we're going to get your reaction to what's going on in new york city and all across the united states. we'll be right back. ♪soft holiday music ]♪ can you help me up?
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industrial. 17,979 right now. we'll see if it hits that 18,000 mark this hour. stay with us for that. in the meantime, let's get back to philip banks, a 28-year veteran of the nypd, the new york police department. we've been discussing police wearing body cameras. chief banks, after the ferguson death shooting of michael brown, president obama called for equipping police with these body cameras. basically, bottom line, do you think it's worth experimenting and going forward with that? >> actually, i think it's worth it and i don't have mixed feelings on it. i think that the offices initially are going to have mixed feelings on it. the police are going to have to decide, is this something that can hurt or assist us. when they answer that particular question, you have the answer to how the police officers are going to be receptive. i think it can work and if implemented properly it will put
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a lot of transparency which is a large part of the problem. so i think it's a good thing and certainly work exploring. >> in the aftermath of the grand jury decision and the video that we've all seen of eric garner, a lot of new yorkers, as you well know, have lost confidence in the nypd and there are all sorts of accusations, built-in racism, two-tiered justice system. your reaction to what is going on? >> i think that there's a growing mistrust of the criminal justice system and the problem that the local law enforcement, the police have is that they bear the face of the entire criminal system. so this is a mistrust that's taken place for a very long time and appears to be growing. when you don't trust an entity, you start to question anything coming out of that entity and if you reverse it, if you trust the entity, you're certainly more willing to be acceptable.
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the law enforcement has to make a priority and has to tackle that problem immediately. >> because when we look at the video, we've all seen it numerous times by now, those cops went after eric garner and started to choke and force him to the ground, the allegation was that he was simply selling illegal cigarettes, right? did these cops overreact to what was really a minor alleged crime? >> you know, there's two ways to look at that, wolf. i'm not so sure whether we should be looking at just the fakd he was selling or not selling illegal cigarettes. i'm not sure if he was or was not. the issue is when the police officer is looking to make a lawful arrest, there are times when police officers become injured by making these low level offenses. now, that's not to suggest that this was handled in the correct manner. i think there are ways that this could have been handled better but i don't think the litmus
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test could be when we're making an arrest, we're arresting a violator for such a minor offense. officers have had injuries due to low-level arrests. >> police have more important things than going avids selling cigarettes illegally. i don't know if you were but you know all about this, right? >> i do. >> tell us your thought. because there's some suggest out there and i don't know if it's true, you were one of those cops who recommended going after these illegal cigarette sellers? >> yeah. that was totally untrue. the media outlet that put that out, i believe they could have done a little more due diligence in that. what happened is that my office -- and i came out with a policy that if anyone caused 311 numerous times, which we would categorize as a crime caller, they would send someone to visit the complainant and get to the bottom of the story.
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so that call, not necessarily eric garner, but conditions taking place in front of that location had reached a chronic level. so it necessitated for my office to reach out to the complainant and find out exactly what the issue is and it was ear rrroneo reported that my office was asked to take some type of action. and paying attention to 311 callers, the objective was specifically to reach out to the complainant and have a conversation and oftentimes we find that we can solve some of these issues without taking enforcement action. >> chief banks, i'm glad you explained and gave us the perspective of what was going on because i saw that other report and wanted to give you a chance to correct the record. >> thank you. >> thank you very much for joining us. i hope you'll come back. >> thank you. >> because you certainly do have a good perspective of what is
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going on in new york city, 28 years in the nypd, working your way up to be chief of department. thank you very much, philip banks. we're going to get an inside look at the protests gripping new york city and other cities across the united states right now. and president obama makes his choice official as he introduces ashton carter as his new defense secretary nominee. will the u.s. senate support the choice? we'll take a closer look at who ash carter is. gloria borger is standing by. we'll be right back. better menu at red lobster! with more of what you love! try our newest wood-grilled combination! maine lobster, extra jumbo shrimp, and salmon! so hurry in! and sea food differently. not to be focusing, again, on my moderate my goal was to finally get in shape. to severe chronic plaque psoriasis.
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jobs report. the november jobs report showed an increase of more than 320,000 jobs created last month. the president says the country is in a hiring pace it hasn't seen since the 1990s during the clinton administration. but also says there is still much more work to be done. >> so we've got an opportunity to keep up this progress if congress is willing to keep our government open, avoid self-inflicted wounds and work together to invest in the things that support faster jobs growth in high-paying jobs. that means exports, infrastructure, streamlining our tax code, immigration reform, giving minimum wage workers a race. >> let's bring in gloria borger, our chief political analyst. going down to 5.8%.
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very impressive number. but the president gave a little dig to the republicans talking about keeping the government open. >> yeah, he did. he doesn't want to do anything to hurt this. he wants what the administration wants to see is an acceleration in wage growth, wolf, because -- and you see a few signs of that in today's report. if you see that, if people's incomes actually start to grow and that would bolster the economy and there would be more consumer spending, then people would really feel it at home and it would be wind at the president's back, wind at the next democratic presidential candidate's back and might help the president push his agenda through congress a little bit because the public would give him stronger approval ratings. >> glouting about these positive jobs report where he formally made his announcement for the new secretary of defense nominee. listen to what he said. >> as we talked together in the past weeks, mr. president, we discussed the challenges and the
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opportunities and the need to keep both america safe and to make a better future for our children. if confirmed in this job, i pledge to you my most candid, strategic advice. and i pledge also that you will receive equally handed military advice. >> that's ashton carter, the nominee that is going to be confirmed by the united states senate, a former deputy secretary. >> right. >> of defense. during the obama administration he was assistant secretary of defense during the clinton administration. he probably doesn't have much problem getting confirmed. >> no. i think he's got a lot of bipartisan support. he's well-known to republicans like john mccain. to democrats who respect him as well. he served for an awfully long time. i think what you'll see in the confirmation process, wolf, is not so much ash carter being put on trial front and center,
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you're going to see republicans trying to point out the differences that he might have had with the president. for example, on keeping a residual force in iraq. did the administration fight hard enough for that? we heard leon panetta, former secretary of defense say to the president didn't do that. should the president have walked right up to the red line that he drew on syria and then walked away from it? ash carter may have had some different feelings about that. so i think what republicans will do is say, okay, we respect you. you differ from the president. what kind of influence can you possibly have on this tight circ circle of white house advisers. >> and let to be confirmed by a republican majority in the u.s. senate, could be 54 if mary landrieu loses in the runoff. >> and i think he will get
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confirmed but i think they are going to point out the difficulties that he might have with the administration. he said to the president, i promise you my candid advice, which means i may disagree with you. >> gloria, thank you. protesters are taking to the streets by the thousands in the united states. they are deeply angered over the chokehold death of eric garner. we'll look at the demonstrations. that and a lot more when we come back.
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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. >> since 6:00 eastern time, we -- and i say we -- hundreds of people have been walking from the heart of downtown manhattan, so right around where city hall, federal courthouse, if you're familiar with the city, this massive group crossed across the brooklyn bridge not on the pedestrian walkway, don, but on the brooklyn-bound multilane, part of the bridge, police shut it down. we have since walked into the heart of brooklyn, downtown brooklyn. >> that was cnn's brooke baldwin reporting from the front lines of the protests over the choke hold of eric garner. our viewers have given us insight on how the police have responded. brooke is joining us from new
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york and athena jones is with me here in washington. brooke, you did an amazing job last night. i think you walked for miles and miles and miles around new york, over the brooklyn bridge. i was watching you all night last night. give us a little flavor of what it was leak. >> sure. i think we clocked seven-plus miles and kudos to my fo photographers for carrying around the equipment. it began in downtown lower manhattan. it was incredibly organic. all ages. a lot of young people, though. i was really struck by the youth of these crowds. you just don't see this happening in a major, major metropolitan area such as new york. you have this massive police presence and they allowed these people, in the hundreds, to cross across the brooklyn bridge
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and on the side in which cars were driving. we go all the way across the brooklyn bridge and into the heart of downtown brooklyn and then, organically, it was led -- highly organized, i would say, organized and they stopped in the middle of atlantic avenue, right by the barclay center if you've been in brooklyn. they were stopped. you can see them carrying these cardboard caskets and they laid down on the ground. this is the first time i've seen pictures of it. i was standing right there. and it was a sight to be behold because these people who were there are frustrated, as they would say, they call it the indiscriminate killing of young, black youth. i talked to one of the mothers, wolf, who was leading one of the protests. she lost her son 2 1/2 years ago. people say it's less and less about race per se and it's more about the force, the abuse of
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power of police officers. and they have, you know, some specific ideas how they are hoping that it will stop. wolf? >> you've done an amazing job. athena jones was here in washington. you were working the story here in washington. what was it like in the nation's capital? >> it's been remarkable, the incredible diversity of the crowd. we've been talking about black males who have been killed by the police. michael brown, eric garner, not just black males out protesting. i spoke with a young white woman who said she came out because she wanted to support her minority friends who had been racially profiled. i talked to a young black man who recently graduated from college. he told me about stories where he was pulled out of a car, driving his mother's nice suv and how scary that was. you have diversity of people coming out. they may have a different story but they want to see the justice system and the police treat
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everybody fairly. >> and you're going to be working the story for us later toda today. brooke will have a lot more for our north american viewers. we look forward to your show. hopefully you'll be able to join us in "the situation room." brooke, thank you. athena, thanks to you as well. demanding accountability for the choke hold death of eric garner. americans across the country, they want answers. how community and religious organizers are working to ease tensions. that's coming up next. pe 2 diabs come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. with one pill a day, farxiga helps lower your a1c.
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fatal choke hold on her son. >> i would like to see a just decision in my son's case. the jury didn't give us a just decision from things that i heard, witnesses who went before the grand jury, i heard that they never even looked up at them or they might have been in there five minutes and never even got eye contact with the grand jury. i felt that was very disrespectful. >> eric garner's mother clearly shaken and upset by the grand jury's decision along with so many other people across the united states. joining us now, three guests. the staten island councilwoman, debbie rose. also joining us, cedric alexander, president of the national association of black law enforcement executives here in the united states and also the public safety director of dekalb county in the atlanta,
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georgia, yearea. and the senior pastor in atlanta at the spiritual home of the late reverend dr. martin luther king jr. reverend, i assume you're preparing a sermon and might address what is going on in the country, right? >> thanks for being here. the sermon is "the point i can't breathe." it's a message that as christians we stand in solidarity with people like eric garner who was trying to eek out a living in an economy that has been cruel to poor people. eric garner lost his life in a confrontation that began over a discussion about the sell of cigarettes. he lost his life. wall street bankers have gambled away trillions of household -- trillions of dollars of
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household health of millions of americans. we need a shift in values in this country and i think that time has come now. dr. king used to say there comes a time when the cup of human endurance runs over and the human spirit cries. that time is now. >> i assume that resonates with you, debbie rose. you're a councilmember. you hear those words. what goes through your mind? >> i totally concur with what the pastor said. you know, this whole case is about the lack of humanity that was shown another human being for something that amounted to a misdemeanor, a nonviolent misdemeanor at that, something that clearly was not worthy of loss -- the losing of his life. >> certainly it's a tragedy all around. cedric alexander, i know you don't want to necessarily
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second-guess what the nypd, the new york police department is doing now. you're looking at it from the outside. what do you think? >> well, i think one thing that nypd is doing right now, clearly, wolf, is that they have stepped back, they are re-examining themselves under the direction of commissioner bratton there and the training that they are reporting, i think it's a step in the right direction but the training has to be ongoing and not just in new york but across the country as well, too, because i think we have talked extensively about the case but here's what's important for me right now in terms of the role that i play as president and being a public safety director here in my own county in dekalb is that going forward we have to look at our training apparatus. we're going to have to reconnect or maybe connect for the first
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time with our communities in a way that we have not. even though we don't have that issue in dekalb county, but across this nation there's so many departments that have no connection with the community and so many departments will, too, that could benefit from that and could benefit from some new training, particularly around cultural competency and diversity. but in an in-depth way, not just in terms of race but across the whole spectrum of diversity across this country. >> i want all three of you to stand by. there's many more issues. we're going to hear from eric garner's daughter and in her opinion what motivated the confrontation between her dad and police. what she has to say may surprise a lot of our viewers. stay with us.
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police officer for the choke hold death of an unarmed black man, the 33-year-old father of six. let's bring back our panel, debi rose and also joining us cedric alexander and the pastor of the church in atlanta. debi, the protests have been pretty diverse. you're in new york right now. what are we going to see in the coming hours? >> you know, wolf, since this incident has happened, it has been an indictment on the policing that we see throughout the nation where there have been a number of incidents in many states where young men of color have been the victims of over aggressive policing that have resulted in the loss of their lives. now to that effect, it has
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gotten to the point where people are saying, enough is enough. and it's not any longer where anyone can feel safe, that people are feeling that their humanity is being disrespected and that they are at risk of becoming a victim of some type of overly aggressive policing. and so with what we're seeing, we're seeing a response. people are tired. people are demanding transparency and accountability. they want accountability for police officers who are persistent bad actors and are demanding -- and are demanding not only justice for eric garner but are demanding that human rights are respected. >> reverend warnick, how do we fix this problem? >> well, every good leader ought to make good use of a bad crisis. and so i was encouraged by some of the reforms laid out the
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other night but we saw with the return of the grand jury decision that body cameras alone won't solve this. we feed real reform in the process. this idea that police can police themselves is fool-hearty. there's a reason why our military is under civilian control. and so when it comes to the situations where you have these police shootings, there ought to be a special prosecutor or a special grand jury. the citizens of this nation deserve to know that there is transparency and accountability in the process. >> cedric, do you agree with the pastor? >> well, i do but let me clarify by saying this. there are a number of police departments across this country, wolf, who does it right and they do it right every day. they've got great community relations, they do good training and work well in communities.
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but at times you're certainly going to have those challenges in which it creates pause for all of us. but that being said, in regards to the criminal justice system as we know it, we need to step back as the reverend warnock is stating. we need to step back, take a look at our criminal justice system because in there, there is some inconsistencies and concerns that an entire nation is speaking out who are saying, something has to be looked at. something has to be reviewed. something possibly needs to be changed. and even if it's the grand jury process, what is the process as it is and what are some notable changes that could possibly be made because, at the end of the day, whatever process that we have, the american people have to feel comfortable with it as best that we can. but we've got to do something quite different. >> all of us have a lot of work
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to do in this very important area. debi rose, krccedric alexander, rafael warnock, thank you for joining us. listen to this, this just coming for its reporting on a sexual assault at the university of virginia. the story about one woman's struggle on campus after a brutal attack at a frat house gained national attention as so many viewers know and called the fraternity system at uva into question. the school promised a full scale investigation but now "rolling stone" magazine says the woman's account of the alleged incident may not be accurate. cnn here in the united states will continue to have much more on this story coming up on "newsroom" with brooke baldwin at the top of the hour. you heard the apology to the
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the battle for control of the syrian city of kobani has dragged on for months. it's been a brutal battle. the city has been reduced to little more than rubble. with such destruction, you would think it would be a ghost town but you would be wrong. there are civilians still there even some children. many are trapped and so many of them obviously are desperate. our nick paton walsh shows us what it's like. >> reporter: kobani feels haunted by those who are still alive in it. inhumane enough that the noise of coalition warplanes above is of strange comfort. the destruction so near complete, the fight is more now for victory alone and not for its spoils. here they've even given up on hospitals. this, the last one, flattened by a car bomb. the wounded now taken straight to the border. from the ground level inside the city, you can see what months of fighting has done.
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absolute devastation. almost impossible to imagine this city sustaining life any time in the near future but still the fighting persists. the shelling almost constant so much of it caused by crude homemade devices like this. there are civilians here but those who refuse or cannot flee and children besieged who cannot be protected from indiscriminate constant shelling. they can list their friends that have left. they show us their own option. what they do when the blast start. their uncle taught them to hide like this. this couldn't be further from playtime though. there are the remnants of lives enjoyed but also of lives taken early. this is a spot where a week
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earlier his young daughter was killed by a random mortar. the sort that are still falling. three to four mortars fell near us. the first one he escaped from. the second one we escaped from but the third fell on us. my daughter was seven years old, and she died. god bless and help us. he brought his six daughters and the 150 sheep they live off of here after isis attacked their nearby village. he could not leave the flock or the family car and flee to safety in turkey. she was 7 years old, he says. she was so beautiful. small. people who saw her felt the need to lift her up and down and play. he went to her grave the day before and sat there for 30 minutes. it is the graveyard that tells you about the near future and the more distant one.
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a trench dug by for the dead they expect next to those they had already buried. headstones from rubble. again, a morbid playground. too young to fathom the fight around them, they will decide what kind of life survival here could leave them with. >> nick is joining us now from beirut, lebanon, where he's safe. nick, an amazing series of reports you've been doing. here's what worries me. winter is coming to kobani and that entire region. what's the situation there as far as fuel, food are concerned? >> reporter: as far as we can see, food is scarce and it was for us and those we saw. the bakery we're told lacking flour to work at the capacity required. we don't know how many civilians are in there but certainly the food is not enough. fuel they have available is not going to be enough as
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temperature drops significantly. the issue is the turkish border. for weeks it had been a source of comfort. refugees could leave. we saw much the time food handed across that fence. that fence is now much less assessable and refugees are rarely allowed to leave. those people still in the city and not leaving for reason perhaps of pride or involvement in the fighting but as you saw there too because their livelihood is in the city and they worry if they left they may never see it again. a whole host of cars at the crossing points that aren't allowed across and people are milling around to make sure aren't stolen by somebody. a lot of conflicting facts with key civilians in the line of fire and those conditions getting worse and colder by the week. wolf? >> it's a source of great, great concern. nick paton walsh, fortunately you are out of there safe and sound. we were worried about when you were inside kobani but you got
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out. appreciate the excellent reporting. thanks very much for the courage that you show. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." for our international viewers, christiane amanpour is next. for our viewers in north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> what a development here in this "rolling stone" magazine story. they are now apologizing for its major spotlight piece here on alleged rapes and sex assaults at the university of virginia in charlottesville. this piece entitled "a rape on campus" described in graphic detail this fraternity house gang rape and the alleged victim here a woman in this article they called jackie. and it took the university to task for failing to respond to this alleged sex assault. let's be clear. "rolling stone" never talke