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miami where traffic is stopped on i-195. here in washington, d.c., demonstrators, getting ready to go in new york, boston and elsewhere around the country. erin burnett "outfront" continues our special coverage. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news, protests on the streets of new york and in cities all across the united states over the chokehold death of eric garner. police are out in full force but the protests are spreading around the nation. plus cnn has obtained aaron garner's autopsy, the cause of death chokehold, the manner of death homicide in black and white. why wasn't that along with the video enough for an indictment? my guests tonight two women so close to eric garner, his sister and his daughter. on this case that has sparked such outrage around the world. let's go "outfront." >> good evening.
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i'm erin burnett. and we begin "outfront" with the breaking news, protesters out in force in new york city and in cities across the united states. this is the third night of demonstrations in the wake of grand jury decision not to indict a white police officer, daniel pantaleo, in the death of an unarmed black man eric garner. we'll show you the scene. as can you see in miami, protesters there, as you can see they are blocking traffic. like the last two nights, the crowds are growing in number and intensity. more and more people flood in over the next few hours. there are also huge protests in boston, in cleveland, and in chicago. this, as the guardianer family released eric garner's autopsy to cnn today and under the heading final diagnosis it lists, quote, the cause of death, chokehold. the manner of death: homicide. athena jones is in washington,
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d.c. jason carroll is in new york. and we begin with deborah fayerick who is down on wall street. deb? >> reporter: there are a couple of dozen protestors here and light rain falling and so some are looking to go to areas where there are more protesters in a culminati culmination. and also those who have come out to support the garner family, there are a number of people here. [ inaudible ]. there is a talking about what the death men. >> there is trouble with deborah's audio so we'll go to manhattan where people have made their way to the iconic apple store on 5th avenue. jason, what are you seeing? >> reporter: they started in columbus circle, the numbers started to grow to more than 100. and then they got to the apple store, they staged the all-to
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all-too-familiar. none of them stopped them. none of the managers at the store. and now on 5th avenue, some of the new york expensive stores, past prada and gucci and past the gap now. they continue to march down 5th avenue. so far no arrests but this crowd is starting to grow. it started small and became larger and larger. at one point when we were walking down the street one young woman came by us and said is this a pro test and we said yes, it is. and she said i'm going to get my family to join in as well. the crowd is starting to grow. it is moving now down south on new york's fashionable 5th avenue. erin. >> and jason, what are they telling you about where they are planning to go and what their intent is tonight? >> reporter: i asked.
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they said they will keep marching for justice. in terms of where they go, it is anyone's guest. they are doing it on the fly. they didn't expect the crowd to grow and that is when the organizers at the front of the large group here. they are continuing to march south. how far south, maybe we'll end up with my colleague deborah fayerick downtown or maybe in times square. it is too early to tell. we'll keep following them to see where they go. but it was quite a moment to see hundreds of people as they descended down into the apple store, lying down right in the middle of the store. a lot of customers looking shocks as to wh-- shocked as to was going on. the manager's let the people stage their die-in and they got up and continues outside and continued down 5th avenue. >> an amazing sight when there was a die-in inside of the apple
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store. one of the busiest stores in manhattan right now and one of the busiest shopping days of the year. and i want to get to washington, d.c. you are looking at boston where there are police and protesters in washington. athena jones is there and protesters are gathering in china town and they want to make it difficult for people to get around, go to an nba game. so athena, what are you seeing? >> reporter: hi, erin. right now we are outside of the verizon center where the wizards are playing the denver nuggets. you can see the shots of people lying down on the ground, they are doing a die-in and a moment of silence and they will be there for four minutes to represent the four hours that michael brown's body was on the street in ferguson, missouri. you can see them getting up now. part of the plan is not just to block the streets here around the verizon center and make it difficult for people to get around and get home to work and get to the fabulous game, one of the plans i was told by a protester earlier by the organizers was to try to disrupt the nba game and have folks who
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bought tickets to attend the game to have them get on to the court. that is one of the other plans of the protesters tonight. they also have a gruch they sent -- a group they sent over to a highway they have blocked, on highway 395 in another group of town and college students that are marching on the union train administration. and so it is a multi front. and they want to bring about change with their voices and make sure there are no more eric garners and michael browns an put an end to the killing of young black men at the hands of police. >> athena. thank you very much. something we'll keep watching. goals slightly different than in other places. they want to disrupt a nba game and block a highway. in downtown chicago, an energetic group there, the demonstrators chanting, hands
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up, don't shoot and i can't breathe. kyung lah is with them tonight. what is it like in chicago? >> reporter: it is very energetic as you say and the same chants are being echoed here throughout downtown chicago. tag a look at this -- take a look at this crowd. it is a very diverse crowd, very young and very, very serious about the message they want to get across, that they are holding signs. you hear, again, i can't breathe. black lives matter. and look at the people who are chanting it. it is educated and it is very, very passionate. what they are doing is trying to engage the public. they say they just don't want to be seen as college kids who are out here, trying to get some attention. they actually want to engage in change. and i'm actually hearing them talk to the police officers as well occasionally. you can't quite see because we're in the center of the sizable crowd but the police officers are ringing the
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protesters. and every once in a while you hear the protesters talk to the police and say who do you serve, who do you protect? will you do this to me? one other tactic they've been doing, and they've been out here for a while, about five hours, what we're seeing is that they were walking very quickly through the city of chicago. but because we're hitting that high commute time, the police don't want them to go down the shopping district on michigan avenue. if you are familiar with chicago, it is highly traveled. they've chosen to stay here and they have ringed the area and you can see i'm completely surrounded by people. they want people to know that they will stay. if the people are going to say they can't walk anywhere, they will block this entire sidewalk and they will try to stay off the streets because the chicago police, have lost their patience as far as them trying to stop traffic here.
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erin. >> thank you very much. and some cities are still trying to stop traffic. we'll see whether there is confrontation on that tonight as the hours go by. and as i mentioned a couple of moments ago, we now have the official autopsy report for eric garner. here is the summary of what you need to know. the cause of death was listed as this: compression of neck, chokehold, compression of chest and what they call prone positioning during physical restraint by police and that means the way garner was lying, chest down on the ground. so that is the cause of death. contributetory conditions, they mention acute and common bronchial asthma, obesity and hyper tensive cardiovascular disease. method of death -- homicide. and the grand jury did not indict. why? "outfront" today, dr. cyril watts. based on the autopsy, do you think the officer daniel pantaleo should have been indicted?
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>> absolutely, erin. this is an excellent facility and they are conservative in dealing with matters like this. for them to have labelled this and described it in detail as they did is commendable and sets forth a scenario that in my opinion cannot be argued with. there are multiple focal areas of hemorrhage in both sides of the north carolina in the muscles we call the strap muscles and soft tish a-- tissu and that means pressure was put on both sides, as opposed to what someone said, pressure on one side. there were multiple hemorrhage on the eyes and the body and the face was sianotic. and it produced veinous production and couldn't make its way back into the heart and the pressure would be so great that blood to the brain would have
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been compromised. and you have nerved from the chest that send fibers to the heart and lungs and that pressure can produce cardiac stand still. so it is a serious matter. >> and it is a serious matter. and that is the manner of death, homicide. but the report listed this. contributing conditions and this is where they talk about with the appearance, his asthma, cardiovascular disease and ob e obesi obesity. it would seem that the grand jury somehow looked at that and must have come to a conclusion that, well those things were important -- extremely important. are they relevant or not? >> in this case, they are not relevant. to begin with, it is an axiom of law, legal principle, you take your victim as you find them. you don't say, gee, if i had gotten into a fight with a younger guy, it might not have happened. you take your victim as you find them. that is number one. number two, a certain who is obese, police officers know you
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don't put them in a prone position. you don't do that with anybody. compression is affixation but spaebl by -- but especially by with a obese individual, the diaphragm gets pushed and you don't have room for the lungs to move. and the branchial asthma is of questionable relevance. he did have an enlarged heart and did not have coronary artery disease. but he did have an enlarged heart. did it make him more susceptible but that does not excuse what the officer did. >> thank you very much. and next, the protests are growing. our reporters are covering the protests across the country and we are seeing this across the country. major crowds in boston and chicago, among other cities. and eric garner killed by a white police officer but many, even his daughter, say it is not about race. and two women who were close to garner, his sister and his
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breaking news, a third night of major protests across the united states. crowds of thousands now flooding the streets from boston to chicago, cleveland to jacksonville, florida. again, there are calls for change after another grand jury decided not to indict a white police officer in the death of a black unarmed suspect. jason carroll is walking with protesters. they have been moving through new york city down 5th avenue.
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obviously the center of new york's shopping world. and now moving toward the empire state building. jason? >> reporter: we are still moving south. we just passed rockefeller center and can you imagine what that was like as you have thousands of tourists come out to see the big christmas tree and hundreds of these demonstrators chanting and marching and walking right past them. to see some of the look on some of the tourist faces, that was definitely a moment. now we are heading down south on 5th avenue to come up on 46th street, the empire state building is just a few blocks further south from where we are. it is unknown if the protesters will continue south on 5th or head up west and end up in times square. they have given out a list of demands. they want this officer involved fired and they want the law changed so it is illegal to use the chokehold in the state of new york. many more demands.
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but also in terms of justice, that is why they are out here. they are staying -- saying they will keep marching for justice. i have seen this, sir, thank you. they are going to keep marching for change in ways that communities deal with people of color. so we'll keep marching with the protesters and just throughout the night. erin. >> jason, we'll talk back into you. and jason listing the demands, wanting the chokehold illegal, and with the nypd, it is also not to be used when this happened. and front now officer very much and van jones. and many people believe this was about race and not everybody and one person is the former mayor of new york, rudy giuliani. here he is. >> there was no racism in this case. there is no indication this was -- if this were a white man,
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resisting arrest of the same size, this would happen. in this case the officer was dealing with a criminal resisting arrest. maybe if mr. brown can't committed the crimes and this gentleman didn't resist arrest, they wouldn't be dead today. >> is this about race or a guy who committed a crime and resisted arrest? >> it is about a number of things. i wish that giuliani wouldn't say those kind of things. it shows so much disrespect and content. excessive force was used here. yes, you should comply with the police, but if you don't, it is not that any level of force is okay. there is something called excessive force and something called making sure that somebody who is not able to breathe is taken care of. none of that was done. but let me tell you where race comes in. if you notice, go on twitter, this hash tag criming while white. you now have white people coming out on twitter saying, listen, when i was in college, i got drunk and i punched a cop and he took me back to my frat house
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and told me not to do it again. and white people are saying i've done much worse than that and not gotten arrested. and george w. bush doesn't under the garner decision. and i hope we are past the point -- and young, white new yorkers say this is happening to their black friends. so this is past is this a racial dementimension and think about we can do about. >> so dan, you were a police officer with the nypd, and here is the question, and maybe it is a hard one and maybe it is overt, is there a racist atmosphere in the department? just an assumption that perhaps someone is black so they are a bigger threat or more likely to be doing something wrong? >> no, not in my experience at all. now i've been gone for a little while but i've been in law enforcement, most of my life between the secret service and nypd. i think it is dangerous for van to say something like that. i don't have a problem with his
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assertions. there is a problem with racism in america. but to introduce racism, not race, into the garner race, clearly one was black and one was white. that is dangerous. you are saying something that may not be true without any evidence to back that up. we don't know if the officer was motivated by a racist tendency and that is dangerous -- >> i would like to respond. >> because the racism gets swept to the side. >> dan? >> this is a great conversation because i think now when we say race or racism, people mean very different things. i'm not saying that individual officer at that moment was thinking to himself, i'm going to kill this black guy because he is black. if that is what we are talking about, that is right. there is no evidence of that. when people say race is involved, they mean the overall pattern of policing in the african-american community is so aggressive that you create cob texts -- contexts in which people can overrespond to you.
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listen, why don't police officers go to harvard and yale, where i graduated, where there is massive drug use going on and kick down the doors and beating people and they don't do that. there is massive crime on wall street, drug use and insider tradi trading. >> you are saying because it is white guys. >> so the over all pattern of policing is so aggressive that these kind of incidents are more likely in our community regardless of what one cop thinks or says. >> i want to play something for somebody getting a lot of attention. charles barkley. so he was critical of the protesters in ferguson and told me he supported the decision to acquit george zimmerman and he is getting people fired up now and here is why. >> we, as black people, we need the cops in our community. they are not there just to quote, unquote, "kill black
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men." they are there so protect us. and we as black people have to develop a relationship with them. >> so dan, what do you think? he's saying there is an attitude, the cops are just there to quote, unquote, kill black men. he is saying that is not true. but i path you completely agree with him. >> i do. >> i agree -- >> go ahead. i'm sorry. dan with a d. >> okay. i think charles barkley is bringing some balance to this but i think van with a v., and we may agree on this, and the perception is the reality. and if the perception in minority communities and not just the black community is that the police officers are an occupying force, whether or not that is true in reality frankly doesn't matter. the perception is there. and something has to be done to bridge that kaz imor we won't
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fix this problem. and think i we need to counter the hyperbole and it is pouring fuel on the fire. >> but, dan, there are statistics. more black men are killed by cops. this is a fact. >> well, erin, you have to put that in context in the amount of crime committed in the black communities. you can't view that in a vacuum. it is totally unfair. >> van, go ahead. >> well first of all, i think we've gotten into this weird thing where you have a false choice being grifb to the commune -- given to the community. you put up with terrible policing or you call for anarchy and lawlessness. and that is not a fear of choice. that is a false choice. we should say we want better policing and effective and fair policing and what is happening right now in too many places, not everywhere, but in too many places we have terrible policing. there is either neglect or abuse. they are not there when needed or when they show up, they think everybody is a criminal. not everywhere.
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but we should say we want that to change without being accused of saying we don't want any policing at all. >> thanks very much to bothch you. and next we are live on the streets of washington, d.c. and in cities across the united states. people are now gathering by the thousands. it is a friday night, you're going to see more than we've seen thus far. this is chinatown in washington. a third day of protests in the chokehold death of eric garner and these crowds as i said growing bigger by the minute. we're going live there. and eric garner's daughter and one of his sisters are coming to talk to us tonight. that is ahead "outfront." work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines,
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now, here's some news you may find even more surprising. we're comcast. the only isp legally bound by full net neutrality rules. breaking news news, we're monitoring protests across the united states, demonstrators in miami have shut down a major highway and protesters with their arms linked chanting, "i can't breathe." [ chanting ] >> and major protests in washington, d.c. protesters out in force after the grand jury decided not to indict a white nypd officer in the death of an unarmed black man, 43-year-old eric garner. we'll talk to his family in a moment. but i want to go to athena jones
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in washington, d.c., where they are trying to shut down an nba game and now it looks like there is a die-in. >> reporter: that is right. that is why you are not seeing me on camera. they are doing another four minutes of silence in honor of the four hours that michael brown's body lay on the street in ferguson, missouri. this is the third time they've done this moment of silence, as something periodically we've seen over the last several nights along with die-ins just like this one. this is the biggest one. they are blocking an entire intersection in a central part of town, chinatown, the wizards game is going on about half a block away and the traffic is stopped and they are doing this to bring attention to the changes they want to see in the justice system and in law enforcement. i spoke with a young college student, a young white woman who traveled here from connecticut and she came down here because she wants to rowe test police
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brutality and more police training. so there is a diverse crowd but they all want the same thing, which is law enforcement that treats people more fairly. and one other thing they brought up again last night is this idea of the $75 million going to be invested that the president would like so see invested in buying body cameras for police officers. 50,000 body cameras. the protest organizer made a statement earlier say egg would like to see that kind of money invested in communities because body cameras, as we've seen with the case of eric garner, having something happen on camera does not mean that justice will be served in their true. so that is another topic they've brought up over and over again, this idea that body cameras won't solve the problem, but it is changing in police tactics and training in order to bring an end to racial profiling and injustice. that is what we're seeing here tonight, erin. >> thank you, athena. and "outfront" now, emerald
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snipes garner and his sister, alicia garner. good to have you both with us. alicia, there has been an outpouring of support for your brother and what would you think he knew if this was happening. ain know you are planning another protest tomorrow. do you think this is making a difference? >> a big difference. especially from the past up until now. it is a very big difference. now everybody is more with unity. a lot of people don't look at racism any more. even the people whose parents tried to make them look toward racism, they don't look toward it because they feel it is not right. and it is good that people are going on with their own minds and not being brain washed into -- >> so emerald, officer daniel pantaleo released an apology and i wanted to read it for our viewers after the grand jury cleared him. i read this to your grandmother last night. here is what it says.
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my family and i include him, your father, and his family in our prayers and i hope they will accept my personal condolences for their loss. your grandmother said she doesn't accept the apology because he didn't say he was sorry for what he did. >> you didn't take responsibility for what you did. it is not like you spilled some milk, i'm sorry. it was just, i send my condolences, there was a disconnect. there was no genuine apology, it was just something wrote on a paper and said put your name on it. that is basically -- it is like a general apology you would google. >> not something you feel is sincere and heart-felt. and you just gave us a photo of you and your dad? >> yeah. >> and this is special of course because he is no longer here, but i know special also because this was the last -- >> the last picture that we took together. the weekend before this happened, they were -- we had a
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remembrance day in coney island and it was remembering all of the fallen soldiers and stuff. so my uncle -- two of my uncles, we were doing it for them, they were on a banner and it is crazy how next year, next to my uncles is going to be my father. so it is like -- it is going to be hard. and then i look at the picture all of the time and it is like the last picture we took together. >> you were close to your dadch he was a good dad. >> i knew my father my whole life. my birthday is going to come up and i'm never going to laugh and joke about my birthday being three days after christmas and christmas gifts. i will never joke about that again it. won't be the same. >> alicia, when you saw the video of your brother and i want to point out to viewers you are comfortable with us showing the video and you see his hands behind his back and six minutes go by between when he was put on the ground and the emtand the
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ambulance came. and when you see that video, this is your brother, how did you feel? >> disturbed. i felt my brother was neglected. they showed no compassion, no remor remorse. they didn't have no respect for a human life. if that was one of their family members, they would do their damnest to do everything to beat on their chest and to pump their stomach. >> oxygen. >> or anything possible to help them start breathing again. and i don't know if they thought he was playing a game, you know. that he was faking. but when you see that he wasn't responding, it is your duty to make sure that he becomes responsive to the best of your -- to the best of your ability. so they did nothing. they stood over him like a piece of trash in the street, like something that you would just step on and everything is okay. it wasn't okay for them to do that. >> i thank bonl of you -- both
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of you for coming and talking with us and sharing your feelings with us. >> thank you. and next, more of our continuing coverage around new york and across the united states as people in this country are rising up on a civil rights issue in a way we have not seen in decades. the nypd has begun issuing body cameras to police officers, they did that today. officials say they make for better police behavior and fewer complaints. are they really effective? e
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protests around new york city growing steadily tonight, over the past few hours we have seen the crowds grow. jason carroll is walking downtown in the heart of the business district. one of the most traffic and touristy, there is more people in new york city where you are tonight than any other night and yet this is happening too? >> reporter: absolutely. with the holiday season coming, the streets are so packed with tourists. we are making our way south on 6th avenue, we just passed 38th
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street and continuing to go south. an one of the demonstrators is jeff. he marched since it started at columbus circle. this isn't the first night you've been out here. tell me the demands you look for and what would real change mean for you and the others out here tonight? >> change means recognizing the system right now and people are being targeted and aren't being treated fairly. and we all have rights to be treated fairly. it is racism and for eric garner and michael brown, my problem is the government and the institution in general. that is why i'm here. >> and i heard the mayor that he said he talks about retraining the new york city police department, is that something you see as a significant change or a step in the right direction. >> i think it is a nice statement. i appreciate the mayor said that. i want to see the results of it. for me, it is easy to say you will train somebody but how will that translate to the streets and into treating human beings. that is what i want to see. >> reporter: thank you very much.
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so again, erin we'll keep marching with the demonstrators. i asked how long they will continue going. eric said it is not about tonight or tomorrow night, it is about the future. so they will keep marching and dep on straighting f inin ining demonstrating for change. erin. >> jason, thank you. and tonight new york city is launching a new program and they are outfitting dozens of officers with body cameras. some think this will offer protection, not only to citizens but officers as well. but it is not that simple. rene marsh is out front. >> reporter: this individual from police in laurel, maryland, captures a traffic stop turned foot chase. in florida, an officer's body camera catch ees the moment he opens fire. [ gunfire ] >> former player jermaine green shot at least four times. police were initially criticized. that issing in this video was --
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that is until this video was released, showing him holding his girlfriend hostage. >> the video really does provide justice for victims of abuse and some studies have shown it reduces complaints against police. >> reporter: public outcry followed the shooting death of michael brown by a ferguson police officer. with no video evidence, the facts of the case were disputed. but in new york city, there was video. captured on a cell phone, unarmed eric garner died after a confrontation with police. >> my dad died on national tv on the camera. he still didn't get justice. so what is justice going to do with these body cameras? >> reporter: new york and other major cities like los angeles, chicago, and philadelphia have all signed on to having their officers equipped with body cameras. on monday, president obama called for increased funding for an additional 50,000 body
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cameras for law enforcement agencies. some police departments have the numbers to back up that it works. in rialto, california, complaints against police fell 88% once the cameras were put into use in a year-long pilot program. in mesa, arizona, there were 75% fewer use of force complaints. but even those who support the use of body cameras say the jury is still out on how effective they will be. >> body cameras are not a symbol and won't make every problem in our criminal justice system go away but they can make it clear how bad the problems are. >> and at this point there is no official count on how many police departments are using these body cameras but the two primary vendors for the technology said they sold devices to more than 5,000 police departments nationwide. but what will also play into how effective the cameras are is the policies departments put into place.
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one of the aclu concerns is if officers are free to turn them on and off and it could edit the situation, recording only parts of the encounter. >> thank you, rene. and in new york city, they would only have to have them on at certain times because you end up with hundreds of thousands of hours up in the cloud that any citizen could request. i want to bring in our legal analyst paul cohen. and so in ferguson, they said if there were police cameras, there would be no problem. there was a camera and there was a video of eric garner's death and as the former president of the united states, george w. bush said about it, it is hard to understand what happened when you see that video. and yet it did. so how would a camera on police made a difference in that video wasn't an indictment. >> you are right. and anybody who looks at that video thinks how in the world could this grand jury not indict for this horrible situation. but it is all about camera angles. and for instance, the officer
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involved with the chokehold, daniel pantaleo, his claim was that he wasn't putting a chokehold on, that he was just trying to get leverage to knock mr. garner to the ground so he could be cuffed. if you had a second camera on another one of the officers demonstrating the chokehold from a different angle, you might have been able to refute his claim that it wasn't a chokehold or maybe it would have backed him up, maybe it would have shown that, in fact, his elbow had been pushed higher when he hit the ground. i'm not saying that happened, i'm just saying with different angles, you kind of get a more complete picture and it might change. it might help the cops or hurt the cops. >> so do you think that cameras are a good idea? that is the bottom line? >> i think they are a great idea and i think they are a great idea because it will cause more civilized behavior on both sides of the people being filmed. for the cops in particular, you know, the cops are on the street -- >> it is a check and a balance
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for them. >> it is more than that. they are trying to be tough guys on the street. what are they trying to do when they are confronting a ledge ilt matt bad guy, not somebody selling loose cigarettes but somebody that is a threat. they try to use aggressive language to scare the person into backing down an unfortunately that might be appropriate in one situation but it gets used on ordinary citizens, particularly in the minority community and they are offended. >> but when they should use it, a jury goes i can't believe you swore at this guy and then the police are afraid to use their jobs. >> i think they won't use that kind of aggressive language. >> what if that means they can't get a suspect then. >> well they'll have to find a different way. and you're right, maybe now they are pulling their gun instead of just threatening to do horrible things to the guy if he doesn't get on the ground. you know when they say get on the ground, they are using expletives and threatening to go for body parts to intimidate a
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person into getting on the ground. now they go for the gun instead. i don't know. we'll have to see what happens with the cameras. but we have seen -- the history of it seems to be complaints go down. now the police might say complaints go down because we have cameras and we didn't do anything wrong in the first place. and the citizens would say it is forcing them to act in a civilized way. we'll have to see. >> a fascinating debate around this country, being tested on 20 or 30 new york police officers at a time out of tens of thousands. and next, breaking news, as we continue to follow the protests around the country, washington, d.c., jacksonville, boston, new york, coast to coast, that is ahead. i've been called a control freak... i like to think of myself as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national.
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bigger. in washington, we see protesters in some cases trying to block roads as they had successfully done last night, i believe. let's go to athena jones who's there. she's been in the thick of these demonstrators all night as you've been seeing. athena, what are you seeing? >> reporter: hi, erin, well, we're on the move again walking up a major street. 14th street after blocking an intersection. a few minutes ago, protesters briefly blocked a fire truck that had its sirens blaring. it was coming down this road heading in that direction. some protesters felt the fire truck was there to break up the protest, not for a fire. it doesn't seem to be the goal of protest to block emergency vehicles like that but there was certainly a tense moment just now, a standoff with some of the protesters feeling like the fire truck was just a way to break them up. this has been very, very active. you can see we are marching along.
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it's a very fast-moving protest. i have not seen a protest move this quickly. another thing, protest organizers said if things don't change, they're prepared to do this everyday. shut down d.c. every single day until something changes. what do they want to see change? police change and end to racial profiling. back to you. >> thank you. jason carroll in new york, inside macy's, right? >> reporter: yes. walked into macy's, staging a die-in in the middle of the store here. as you can imagine what's happening here, a lot of the managers came to the front. police allowed them to come inside and stage their stage-in just like we saw at the apple store. an incredible moment when you consider what's been happening here. a huge shopping season here, so you can imagine right in the
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middle the die-in happening as we speak. erin? >> it is stunning to see what we're seeing. i think jason is telling everyone it's stunning. i want to emphasize for those of you watching around the country, it's stunning. people staging a die-in at a major store and it's peaceful. it's incredible to behold. all right. we'll be back in just a moment. how can in china,sumption impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment
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