got me sobbing up all in my chardonnay. >> cnn heroes of 2014. an all-star tribute. sunday on cnn. >> special night to uplift your heart for the season. thank you so much for joining us. i'll be back at 10:00 for a life edition of outfront. anderson cooper begins our breaking news coverage now. good evening, thank you for joining us. the third straight night, protesters out in force and new places tonight. miami, florida, for one. people out on city streets. for a short time, they were all over interstate i-95. also, protests on the road to harvard university. and back on the streets of chicago tonight. major demonstrations in washington, d.c. and of course, here in new york city. night three of protests in the death of eric garner in a grand jury's decision not to indict the police officer who put him in a choke hold. as we saw last night, the

numbers rising as the night goes on. this is times square shortly after we signed off last night. large crowds and unlike earlier in the evening, police making quite a few arrests taking people into custody mainly on disorderly conduct charges. 200 in all citywide before the night was over. these are always fluid, organic evolving situation. we're live for two hours tonight. there's live developments to talk about in the case. we obtained full autopsy report today. there's wnbc the staten island attorney did not give the grand jury for considering a lesser charge against daniel pantaleo. again, tonight a lot happening as we speak. a lot changing minute by minute with our correspondents as always in the thick of it. first, to our jason carroll outside of macy's department store where things have been happening a lot. jason, where are you exactly and what are you seeing?

>> reporter: well, we were outside and then we came inside. as you can imagine here, anderson, at the macy's store, demonstrators staged the die-ins in the middle of the store. it was quite a moment, as you can imagine. you had thousands of shoppers in the store. usually you think of macy's of the thanksgiving parade, but not tonight. hundreds of protesters staged a die-in. they stood and chanted for several minutes. now they're just making their way back out the store. earlier in the night, they did one of these die-ins at the apple store on fifth avenue. in terms of what's next, the protesters will continue marching. they go back to 6th avenue and we continue to follow them as they make their way probably towards times square. it's hard to be sure. they were taking this on the fly, anderson, in terms of what they do and what they do next. i know they meet up with another

group of protesters and those two groups merge. you can imagine what a moment it was first at the apple store, this is a protest that started at columbus circle and then the apple store. hundreds of people with a shocked look on the shoppers' faces and then for them to march down fifth avenue past new york's most iconic and expensive shops and then macy's, to walk in the middle of the store to stage a die-in there. it was quite a moment, anderson? >> reporter: a couple hundred, that's how big the crowd is right now? and when they go in the store, you said a die-in. how long, for instance, in macy's, how long were they staying inside macy's? >> reporter: yeah, it's remarkable because the police are following them as they go along here. the managers were somewhat overwhelmed as i would say are approximately 200 of these demonstrators filed into the store and then what they did is just started to lie down in the

middle of the store. at first, chanting and then stopping for a moment to honor michael brown. his body stayed there in the street for quite some time. the die-ins happening. last night, the night before and again tonight. in terms of what they're going to do next, perhaps stop at another store? it's anyone's guess at this point. >> fascinating stuff. jason carroll. this is night three of this in new york city. for those of us long time residents here have never seen anything like this in the city of new york. these large protests over the last two nights prior, particularly, moving so fluidly throughout the city without permits. just on the move constantly in different parts of the city at one time. in chicago now, our kyung lah is following protests there. we have seen last night there were confrontations between police and protesters as police

tried to get protesters off one of the, i believe, it was lake shore drive. kyung, where are you tonight in chicago and how's it going? >> reporter: anderson, you can see a lot of the backs of people's heads because we're walking quite quickly down michigan avenue. if you're familiar with chicago, this is the area called the magnificent mile. it's a huge shopping district filled with stores like sachs and neiman markcumarcus. i'll move quickly. this is a small part of the protest. people are walking and just like in new york, you hear the same chant. and then the police are on the street right next to them, walking in traffic, biking in traffic trying to keep them off of michigan avenue. yesterday, they had shut down parts of michigan avenue, parts of lake shore drive. they're trying to stick to the sidewalks now but a very

energetic group, anderson. they've been walking for almost 6 hours and playing cat an mouse with the police. they don't want them to disrupt the shopping area. sorry, i'm running out of breath. they try to contain them to the sidewalks. >> kyung lah, i appreciate that. on the right-hand side of the screen, earlier, a slight confrontation that didn't really seem to result in many arrests. this is the confrontation we saw last night. i believe it was lake shore drive. our kyung lah was there last night as well. police ended up basically trying to push the protesters off the road to allow traffic to get through. and basically pushing and shoving for a while and then police actually used their bicycles to parade a makeshift barrier. there's protests tonight in washington, d.c. as last night, athena jones is out with protesters there. athena, what's it like in washington? >> reporter: hi, anderson.

well, like last night, this crowd is large. several hundred strong and it's moving fast. we already covered a large part of the city. and now they're chanting off the sidewalks into the streets trying to get more people to join in, trying to get the by standers to join in to this protest. i've got to tell you, anderson, amidst of all this noise, the chanting, there's poignant moments as well. a young black man carrying a sign saying, quite simple, i could be next. i talked to a yale woman, a graduate in tears saying i'm in pain and when i come out here, i realize i'm not the only one who is in pain. these are some of the poignant moments we capture tonight in addition to these chants for justice and for peace. >> athena jones in washington, d.c. the protest is nationwide. the spark of course is in new

york. debra rose, i want to bring in from the borough. thank you for being with us. as you see these images of protest in new york city, what goes through your mind? >> it's actually encouraging to me because to see so many young people who recognize that this is a national crisis, they're responding to the fact that their lives have very little meaning. and so they are out there expressing the desire to ensure that something changes, that there's transparency, accountability, and that they can be safe in their communities and not be at risk of overly aggressive policing. >> there were huge numbers in new york city last night. several hundred where jason carroll was. we try to see any other

demonstrations if they pop up tonight. where does it go from here? jeffrey toobin, our legal analyst, on last night said after a while, protests tend to peter out unless there is certain demands people want, unless there's a call for action with some specifics. at this point, are you concerned that it will peter out and what is the change that people are hoping for, do you think? >> this is actually the catalyst. this is the catalyst that is propelling us into the new or the next civil rights movement. so their voices need heard. it's just the first step. because of their voices, because of the numbers, because of the visceral reaction they've had, it has stimulated government to change, to look at changes. we saw the police commissioner bratton definitely say that police officers need to be retrained. that they are going to find the money for body cameras.

there are legislators who are talking about the grand jury process and changes to that. so it is the catalyst. >> you believe that change has already begun? >> i believe that there has been some change. i believe that as a result of the fact that they have been peaceful but loud, they've been angry, and they've been very articulate about what their needs and fears are. yes, i do, because we saw the police commissioner say he was going to mandate training for police officers and mayor said he will find money for body cameras. we are talking about having the grand jury unseal the decision, unseal, something that hadn't been done before. >> one of mr. garner's daughters

were on the program last night. she was out the scene he died, protesting for a long time. sometimes everyday, day after day. the reaction she got from passers by she found a negative reaction. it contrasted from other boro h boroug boroughs. i wonder how this is playing out on staten island, which is more conservative than the other boroughs in new york. >> you know, what has happened in staten island is that there are communities that have been the victims of overly aggressive policing. they've been the victims of broken windows in excess, whereas there are communities on staten island where broken windows is embraced because the policing of it has not been -- >> broken windows, for viewers

who do not understand, it's a police that you go after quality of life crimes, low level crimes that mr. garner was accused of selling loosey cigarettes, to drop the crime rate overall. if you go after the broken windows in a community, it will have a trickle down effect on crime stats overall. >> and it does. and it can be expedited in a way that is fair and is beneficial to the community, but what we've seen is an overly aggressive response to small infractions. in fact, they're misdemeanors. mr. garner was accused of selling loose cigarettes, when in fact on that day, he was not selling loose cigarettes. he had just broke up a fight between two young people and was standing on the corner.

and was approached, enough is enough. why are you constantly approaching me and arresting me, when at that moment, he was not doing anything. >> do you believe he should, if he was selling loose cigarettes, do you think is that something somebody should be arrested for? it seems like if it was a different police officer, maybe if tension hadn't ratcheted up for whatever reason among the people who did, a summons might have been handed out in another case, a ticket might have been handed out. >> absolutely, anderson. it's about discretion and the officers using their skrediscre. it did not justify, especially killing him, for selling loose cigarettes if that's in fact what he was doing. this is an example of the overkill, no pun intended, but

the overkill when they approach certain communities in regard to low level crime. >> do you believe race played a role in the interaction that led to mr. garner's death? >> i think what played a real role is that they felt that mr. garner had a history and they were aware of it. and on other occasions. what happened was they have to be accountable for productivity. >> productivity within the police department. >> productivity within the police department. >> yes. i think knowing his past, they felt that here, we can get an easy arrest. because mr. garner never resisted arrest previously and that day, he was trying to say

to them, there's nothing going on here. leave me alone and i've had enough, back off. >> are you also concerned about the emt response? in the video we've seen, really nothing was done other than feeling his pulse. >> and if you look at it, it wasn't even properly, according to procedure, they could not feel his pulse at that location with the fingers that she used. and yes, that's what was amazing to me about the grand jury decision. that no one was indicted, that the ems came and they didn't administer cpr. there's something grossly wrong with that. and he had been saying he could not breathe, he could not breathe, and for them to come

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silence among the protesters on the streets. let's listen in.

>> thank you, everybody. >> a moment of silence there in chicago. we have seen moments like that here in new york. last night, protests in cities around the country last night. demonstrators on the streets of miami. there's new york but on the left-hand side of your screen. washington, cleveland, and in other cities as well. i want to go to jason carroll who is in midtown manhattan. jason, last we saw your protesters had actually gone into macy's to do what they call a die-in there and have left as well. i want to show the video to the viewers of the moment inside macy's. i'm just going to roll on in now. >> i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe.

>> jason, you were saying there were several hundred protesters, as many as 700 who had gone inside macy's. >> reporter: it was incredible. it was an absolutely incredible moment as you can imagine, anderson, to walk in the middle of that store and see all of those demonstrators there and the shocked look of shoppers who were there as well. the people working there, just trying to figure out what's going on as they marched in there and chant, i can't breathe. the same thing they're now chanting out here as we cross over on 42nd street heading towards times square eventually. the demonstrators say they will march towards grand central, perhaps stage another die-in there. as we marched down 42nd, the police try to keep them off the street, on the sidewalk.

took two people into custody not complying with what they said. we're partially in the street. these demonstrators, not seeing the same numbers we've seen out here in the past. the numbers are definitely smaller but the passion is definitely still here as well. >> a, i'm wondering how much of that is accounted for by the weather. i understand it's raining a lot. how much of that might be just be people after two nights of protesting have decided not to. do you know how this protest is organized? social media, people told to meet at a certain location? >> reporter: it is. it's been spreading through social media. in fact, before i started today, i was just checking to see how some of these protesters were, on facebook partially and on twitter. some are on headsets and

walkie-talkies to communicate. we're at the back but at the front they're trying to communicate. split up at macy's but far more organized than in the beginning. i think that's helped them as well in terms of gathering numbers of people as well. usually it spreads word on social media. meet at this particular location or meet at that location. that's how these groups start to merge. my colleague, deborah feyerick, talked about this earlier. there are several different groups involved with this. those in peace organizations, those involved in occupy wall street. you've got a merging of these different groups all rallying between this one particular point. >> jason carroll, we'll continue to check in with you. joining me now in the studio is daryl parks, and mark o'mara who represented gz, criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor

paul kallen. the prosecutor in staten island did not actually ask the grand jury to consider a lesser charge of reckless endangerment. you're a former new york prosecutor. does it surprise you why a prosecutor would not recommend, give the kind of full options to a grand jury? >> well, there's a huge menu of charges that might be appropriate in this case, so the prosecutor's trying to pick the best ones that fit the evidence and frankly, i don't think that would be the best charge. the best charge, i think, would have been -- it's a charge of criminally negligent homicide by commission. here's the theory. when they knock him to the ground and he's incapacitated and he's saying, i can't breathe, i can't breathe, he's in the custody of police officers and new york courts have held that when you are in custody, the police have an obligation and a duty to protect you. very different than the arrest duty. and by not getting him the help he needed and by making the

situation worse by putting pressure on his chest, they, in fact, exacerbated his position. the medical examiner's report said him in the position was what led to his death. unique theory by omission, the omission of the duty to protect him. they would have had a good shot of getting his indictment. and that theory was used and they got an indictment of a cop in manhattan. >> daryl, the possible charges has a lot of sway on what the grand jury ultimately decide. >> absolutely. in both these cases, michael brown and eric garner, the prosecutor doesn't seem to have the desire to get a charge. obviously, when a grand jury is sitting there, they can see whether or not this prosecutor really wants them to indict or not. and obviously, we have the results we have right now in both cases. >> mark, i mean, is there any

reason the prosecutor wouldn't have gone with a number of options to the jury? >> the quick answer is to give it to him but in his mind, here's the way to look at it. criminal negligence is sort of a lower standard. if we decide negligent behavior is going 20 over the speed limit in a school zone, reckless behavior is 40 miles per hour in a school zone. if you can't even get to negligent behavior which is what paul was talking about, the negligent homicide, then reckless is a higher standard and the fact that it's worse behavior. so i would have given to him as the prosecutor, but if that grand jury wasn't going to indict for negligent behavior, they certainly weren't going to indict for reckle lesless behav which is an egregious set of facts. >> paul? >> you know, anderson, the prosecutor's mistake in this case i don't think was which charges he gave to the grand jury. it was immunity.

he made a decision that he was out so much to get the cop who did the choke hold that the two other cops who are involved in the most active part of the arrest, he gave immunity to. he said to them, if you testify in the grand jury, i will not charge you ever with a crime and i'm betting when i look at the autopsy report in this case the jurors probably said, you know something, all of the cops acting together caused his death. it's very hard to isolate the choke hold as opposed to the chest compression opposed to just abandoning him when he was calling for help. but if the jurors wanted to indict all three cops, they couldn't because the prosecutor had given immunity to his two key targets. >> darrell, paul was saying he was out to get officer pantaleo. you don't believe he was out to get him at all though? >> it's rather clear he let the

other officers go. we see the officers hands on the ground, there's serious issues there as well. once we give immunity -- >> hands, knees, body weight. >> once he did that, just from the attitude you saw from how the charges were presented, the real desire to prosecute the officer wasn't there. what it says though, anderson, in our country, we have to seriously do something about allowing local prosecutors who work with police day in and day out from prosecuting those officers. because think about it, the very next day, they're going to have to do cases to save departments. >> mark, that is the criticism of this system as it is. i want to get your comments on it. as darrell was just saying, these are prosecutors who, after the grand jury is over and done with, they still have to work with the police and they, in order to progress in their own careers, the prosecutors, they need to win cases. in order to win cases, they need police officers who go the extra mile in future cases and if a

police officer feels like this is a prosecutor who doesn't respect the police, the criticism is that the prosecutor is not going to get the cooperation of the police. when there's an officer involved incident as well. >> it's a legitimate criticism. >> you're saying that happens? >> it does. in the mcculloch case, he didn't need to step down because there wasn't enough evidence in that case of that prosecutor but with the mistrust that exists right now, it's an easy fix to build up trust to say, do not be the prosecutor who is prosecuting your buddies. let some other prosecutor from two counties over, at least put in place we have special prosecutors on killing cases or maybe cop violent act cases. we need to rebuild trust in the system. we're not going to build it when one legitimate complaint is that

not prosecuting their buddy cops. that's just a reality. >> i want to show images. this is grand central terminal in midtown 42nd street in new york and now we have protesters going into grand central terminal. jason carroll anticipated this is perhaps where they were going to go but if we can, do we have contact with jason? jason, if you're there -- . >> reporter: yes, i can hear you. >> it's a sight to see protesters entering grand central on their own. >> reporter: that's true. >> he's too far underground. >> reporter: anderson, going to see them right back police officers and going by security guards. there's the front, as you can see what they're doing now, going to move to the central of grand central terminal where they in all likelihood stage another die-in. they're doing so much of this on the fly, it's sort of hard to

tell. there we see it happening now. they're starting to do another die-in at grand central stage-in. we've seen it before earlier tonight at the apple store and we saw it at macy's. now we see, anderson, they start to gather all around us here. starting today's to stage another die-in. it's hard to keep count here, but as you look around, maybe get a better look than i can. but maybe more than a hundred of them who started to gather here. i'm going to stop talking to listen and hear what they're saying. >> again, this is the center of grand central terminal. >> shut it down, shut it down.

>> eric garner, michael brown. eric garner, michael brown. >> eric garner, michael brown. >> shut it down, shut it down. >> jason carroll, it's interesting. again, this is now 8:30 on a friday night. a terminal sees tens of thousands of people moving through the terminal at the day. right now, a lot of people trying to get to trains and catch subways through this terminal to get home, places they may be heading to for the weekend. clearly, the protesters want to

make a statement but it's interesting how they don't stay in any one spot too long. if they tried to occupy grand central terminal, the police would have to move in and start to arrest them but a temporary sort of shutdown, the police clearly are holding back because they believe the protesters will, within a short amount of time, move on, correct? >> reporter: you're right. that's the tactic they're using. they come to spots like apple or macy's or right here where we are now staying just long enough to make their point but not so long that police eventually move in and end up making arrests. but what's incredible to me as we experience this, not only to see them here at some of these iconic spots but to see the looks on the faces of the people here watching as it happens. whether it's at the apple store or where we are now.

i think that's part of the point we try to do. they try to come to places like this and reach ordinary people who might not be socially or politically active to get them involved an hear their point of view. we don't know what they're going to do next but we know what they've done so far. if it's an indication of what we see later tonight, i would expect them to go to many other spots beyond here to want. their tactic, i think, is to come and stay long enough to make their point and move on. >> darrell parks, you do a lot of medical malpractice cases. michael brown and others. in terms of the medical response here, this is clearly something that the garner family is very upset about. the care he got as he was laying on the ground. you have no doubt this will be part of the civil case, or lack of attention? >> obviously, the police called

the emts to the scene for a reason. there's an issue already. when they got there, they failed to check him. it's very normal in our society that when an emt gets to you, number one, put the ekg machine to see the condition of the heart is. and two, they position you to check what your status really is. obviously in the video that we see, they do none of that to really check him. they touch him barely but don't do a full assessment of him which is common. the emt comes to you, they want to fully seassess you. >> stand back, we need to give him air, nobody was giving him oxygen or air. >> none at all. but go back to when they came to the scene, anderson, it's so important to do a full assessment to a person of that position. with bigger people, it's common to know of position.

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protests happening live, this is in miami. protesters blocking the street in miami. obviously, this is the first time we've seen relatively large demonstrations in miami the last three days. we're watching this one very closely to see the tone, the tenor of it, comparison demonstrations we've seen in previous nights in other cities as well as demonstrations occurring right now. as we talk about now, all of these protests have been very mobile. very much on the move organized over social media, on twitter, on facebook. and here in new york, certainly, though closely watched by police and followed by police and monitored by police, the

protesters are continually trying to keep on the move. the scene in chicago, trying to keep on the move. going into stores and in many cases tonight in new york, we see that or even train stations going into facilities, laying down for a short amount of time and then moving. not a situation where police are trying to force them out of a location. they basically try to take over a location, so to speak, block it temporarily, make a statement, and then move to another location. now the protesters who you saw laying down in the center of grand central terminal in new york on a busy friday night, this is the group now that is, they are now leaving grand central terminal and continue to be on the move. as you know, they've been into an apple store. they've already been into macy's, large department store on 34th street in harold square and now continue to be on the move.

demonstrations still going for a third straight night. it's worth looking closer at the incident itself now because we've learned more about it today. the moments that sealed eric garner's fate back in july. by now, we have, broadly speaking, three main narratives. what officer pantaleo said he did, what the video shows to lay people and to experts and now finally today, the full autopsy report. the question is, how do they square with one another and where do they all leave us on what happened to eric garner? today, as i said, we obtained the full copy of the autopsy report. a short time ago, i walked through it and with koep lin ski, an emergency medical physician, dr. sampson davis.

i want to talk about the choke hold. compression of the neck and the back that caused the death. let's look at this part of the video where the choke hold is used. >> he went underneath garner's right arm and up and up. >> it's still in a choke hold. >> it's a choke hold but the autopsy report shows this was a compression of the blood vessels. >> not of the windpipe. >> not of the windpipe, that's right. the blood vessel, the jugular vein was completely closed down whereas the carotid arteries were still flowing. that's how you get the patiikia. you're compressing the jugular. blood is able to go to the brain but not leave it. >> that's what the hemorrhage

is. >> that causes the patekia. >> there's something called the -- there's a gap here. can you explain this? >> that bone is above your thyroid cartilage and attached to the base of the tongue. as we get older, you can see the gap here. this bone fuses and becomes one, just like his hair and smooth and complete. >> this is a natural gap. not a sort of fracture. >> exactly. as we age, between 38 and 53, this will fuse. usually use this to identify how old a person is. with mr. garner here, still 43, was infused. this makes it less likely to break. you can imagine any outward pressure on the bone is going to give because of this gap right here. if fused, would have most likely fractured or broken in choking.

>> there's the moment he's actually on the ground. i want to show that video because dr. kupalinski, as important as the compression on the neck was, equally important, on the upper back. >> wasn't only pantaleo that should have been indicted. there were others involved with this killing because everybody who piled on compressing the chest could be implicated in this killing. >> so is somebody who isn't the size of mr. garner, mr. garner's bmi, i think, is twice the average person. >> higher level than normal. >> of somebody of an average weight though, would this maneuver of people piling on the back -- >> normally, a normal person with -- who's not, berking.

you can't breathe. >> three areas of the chest. the throat. the fact his head is turned also causes compression and then his core morbid issue is asthma, high blood pressure. it increases the likelihood of death in this position. >> several injuries listed as plethoric. >> it's kind of a rosy collection of blood underneath the skin. with the pressure around the neck in his facial area, you can see where the blood expanded. it gave it a rosy hue or a roselike color to it. increased blood flow. second to distal pressure and around his neck, causes a plethora of blood in the region. >> still open, jugulars are closed. and pressure builds up. >> dr. davis, dr. koblinsky,

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what protesters refer to as a die-in, the streets in washington, d.c. let's just listen to the sights and -- listen to the sounds and see the sights right now. the protests around the country have had similar themes and slogans. the prevailing slogan, black lives matter. not everybody thinks race had a role to play. erin garner said what happened to her father was horrible, a nightmare and tragedy but said

not necessarily about race. let's listen. >> you said this is not a black and white issue. do you say this is not an issue of race? you think it's a racial issue? >> i really doubt it. it was about the officer's pride. it was about my father being 6'4" and 350 pound and he wanted to be the top cop that brings this big man down. my father wasn't even doing anything. i mean, you know, he wasn't really doing nothing. he didn't have no gun. he didn't run or smack him. nothing. >> joining me now, former nypd officer, dan bongino and eric adams, also a former nypd captain. mr. adams, thank you very much for being with us. what do you make of what mr. garner's daughter said, she doesn't believe race was involved, it was a question of

the officer wanting to show his power? >> i think that she was given her perspective based on a simple incident that took place with her dad, but those of us who spent their lifetime looking at this issue and seeing how it impacts across the entire country, we realize that the great training that police officers have of deescalating situations is not applicable to communities of color or where they're economically challenged in locations. so i understand that that's her analysis, but there's a full analysis of how policing is done across the country. >> in reading your bio, you decided to get involved in the system because as a teenager, there was an incident where police officers took you basically to the basement of your building, kicked you repeatedly in the groin and you were urinating blood for days and didn't want to tell your mom because of the shame of it all. >> that's the reality of it. i think when civil rights leaders approach me, this young black man and told us they

wanted to go to into law enforcement and i jumped at the chance because i realize that there's a part of law enforcement that's a dark dirty secret in america and once you make reconciliation with others, you have to make it with yourself. i realize that. >> you say the great training the new york city police department receives, that it often doesn't survive long once you're on the streets, particularly in communities of color. can you explain what you learned in the academy once you got out on the streets, around veteran officers, they were telling you something different? >> exactly. in police academies, you spend a long time in training. 6 months in nypd but on the streets, you receive indoctrinati indoctrination. and the signal of what you get on the street but that's not the same application when you go to communities doing financially well. how we police on park avenue

manhattan is not how we police in brooklyn. different form of policing and that's what the commissioner mayor is saying now. we have to have one standard of policing. >> dan bongino, i'm curious of your perspective on was mr. adams is saying. >> i agree with the initial assertion that the training is high quality. i think, frankly, it's terrible. i don't think there's much of a focus what they call in service training. in other words, while you're an active police officer, you should be constantly going back to the police academy to refresh your training. none of that is done, anderson. you have some people coming into the police academy, never been in a street altercation their entire lives. i'm sure mr. adams met some of these people. the first altercation they'll have is as a police officer. you think a couple of weeks of control tactics training is enable to handle them someone who could be twice their body weight?

i don't think so. >> do you think, mr. adams, that -- what's the solution then? >> let me explain. this is very important to understand because this is what people are not understanding. all of our police aid department, particularly in new york city, receives some of the finest training known. the problem is you don't see young white males being shot in the stairway. people take their time, use deescalation tactics. you don't see white men in three piece suits trained out. the good training are not being applied to communities of color. and if we look at what the mayor and police commissioner did about the three day in service training, repeated in service training, you realize what they're saying is that we have to have the same form of reserve, the same form of professionalism that we do in other communities must be done. >> is this happening if the officer is the same color, same

race as the person they are policing? an african-american in a community of color, are they under the same pressure from their fellow officers? >> yes, entirelily. on that topic, want to be real. many african-american officers when they come into this department, they become indoctrinated and part of the culture of policing that believe the police department only see one race. the police department has not created the skism of racism. leave your predisposition at the door. modify your behavior and we've failed to do that. >> mr. adams and earthquadan bo thank you. a look at miami here, night three of protests are playing out on the city streets. we'll be right back. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000

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in front of me but you can see how the chicago police have tried to contain the protesters to this one street corner. what had been the tactic is just letting them move back and forth as quickly as possible, but at some point, they got caught between lights and the chicago police started to push them off the street and made the announcement that if they were in the streets, they would begin to arrest people. and that appears to have happened to at least three people. we're hearing from other protesters. i was too far back to see it myself. from what we understand, three people were taken away in one of the chicago police vehicles. so now they're just standing here on the street corner in this faceoff with police and they are saying that they want to be able to walk. what had been the tactic and you saw it in new york is that they had been moving as quickly as possible to try to avoid arrests.