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scene but it's the aftermath of what unfolded. any idea of why this happened there last night? >> i'm not sure there is a good answer. >> the chaos erupted when some of the groups went down university avenue in berkley. they targeted this trader joes. there is boarded up windows. they went to a radio shack and looted the store there. things are calm. the question is what's going to happen tonight. some people are trying to organize a protest at 5:00 p.m. if they are successful at
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getting people out you wonder what kind of behavior they will have. >> it was interesting, dan, too, and i am wondering what you are hearing in terms of what police are expecting tonight. >> i think it will depend on the protests. are they going to throw bricks and other things at police officers? if you do that, you are asking for trouble. at the same time police have to be restrained when the protesters are not doing anything that is unlawful. so police have a difficult job. but the protesters, they have to behave themselves as well.
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>> i want to start with this video. let me pull up this video for our viewers if you have it. i think we might have the pictures. there you go. the white house is holding the kennedy center honors reception. what's your reaction to seeing this? >> the president has led on this in terms of creating a task force. at the same time, however, we have to -- anywhere else, there
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are a lot of issues on the table here but aumplt cannot be intimidated. has to be able to protect innocent people and the protesters. >> what we just showed as the top of the shows. >> do you believe with these police are acting properly? >> we are seeing the ending. the cops don't know the ending. there are anarchists out there. they are coming there. they are a small number of people. they are not representative of the protesters. whether they are talking about
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manhattan, the business community, the business community in ferguson, you cannot have people running amuck. it disgraces the names of the people that we're talking about here. we have to have some significant improvements in the justice system but violence does not benefit anybody. >> training for every police officer here, i wonder if you think that is enough. sometimes we are talking about things that are much larger than physical training. you are talking about community relations. do you think it should be nationwide the same level of training? the exact same training for all police forces? >> unequivocally, yes. he has been right in the front.
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three days of train something a gigantic investment and the cops like the training. we could do a lot more than that. we need to look at nation aal standards for the cops. >> when you look at the sentiment towards police officers in this country, what we have seen recently, we're seeing a lot of verbalized, vocalized anti-police sentiment.
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>> elected officials who have been pandering an awful lot, they are not at the top. i would say, there's a tremendous chance for kree iteming a good relationship there. because i believe from my service as a police officer, that uniquely maybe more than any other community gets the idea of service. i don't know they are anywhere near the conversation they will have. a tremendous amount of common ground in this country. >> we appreciate the perspective that we have. stick with us. we're not done with you yet. should the officer have been charged? let's look at what happened. quick break and we will talk about that. also coming up, two westerners
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killed by al qaeda during a rescue attempt. they are now really dealing with new reports that if this raid didn't happen, perhaps one of those hostages may have been released today. also roling stone magazine rephrasing its own apology for the uva rape story. the details live from campus ahead. (vo) nourished. rescued. protected. given new hope.
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>> live pictures now of president obama. he is speaking at a reception in the east room of the white house. this is being held for those people that are going to be receiving the kennedy center honors this evening. just yesterday we did learn news on the president that he made an unexpected visit to walter reed medical center. they did a ct scan. that sore throat not enough to seep him from doing this at the
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kennedy center. and a new question, a big question facing military strategists. is it time to re-evaluate its strategy the almost of prize was lost. that mission ended with two western hostages dead. >> is it imperfect? yes. is there risk? yes. but we start with the fact that we have an american being held hostage and that american's life is in danger. that's where we start. and then we proceed from there. also joining us, our national
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security analyst. lieutenant, let me begin with you. and then ultimately these two hostages were shot and later died. talk to me about how special forces are trained when something goes awry like that. >> there's really only two organizations that are really the national forces for hostage rescue and they train all the time on these type of instances. it's lid rally the most critical. it eegs like being fourth and one on the goal line. anything can happen. dogs barking, cars pulling up. it's the years of experience
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that these men have. if something does happen, they go now and they have to go. there is three elements we use in any hostage rescue. surprise, speed, and action. you lose one of those three you can still do it but it makes the other two really ramp up. >> this was the second attempt in a week for u.s. special forces to try to rescue luke somers and ultimately what they found out to be another western hostage. there are reports that he was said to be released possibly today. >> well, it's virtually impossible. very difficult to get sources inside. and experiences they can't
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answer a question like that. and in this case we simply went in because there was a threat that an american hostage would be killed. these guys are well well trained and that's the best you can do. >> look at what went wrong with osama bin laden operation and they were successful in that. often there are hick ups. what does it tell you that twice in one week, president obama signed off on very risky rescue missions for luke somers? >> we will not stop trying to bring back and repateryuate our american citizens.
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they are always looking over their shoulders we all hear about other western nations that will pay for their hostages and sometimes get them back. do you think the u.s. should be thinking about considering paying ransom for hostages? >> the problem is france. they started paying isil for the hostages. so they virtually set up a market for the hostages. once we go down the road, paying to get people back, where does it end? >> but the fact that you're saying with grans doing it, has that set the stage where the united states has to ceasely
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reconsider the playing field right now? it's a political and moral decision. we really do have to ask ourselves whether we should be paying ransoms. that's not a question i can answer. >> don't go anywhere. i want to get your take on six detainees released. what does this all mean? we will be back in just a moment. ♪
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the yooit united states any safer? >> he was a figure head. we have been hunting him a long time. i do believe once you take out a senior leader, the network starts to crumble. the other gentlemen, kind of a headpiece from my perspective. >> i want to get bob's take. do you agree these both are key? >> they are key figures, absolutely. the operatives actually got in new york. and they had backpacks ready to go. any time cutting their head off
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like this is always helpful. the problem is it's -- this war is not over by any means. >> absolutely. and another really big story that broke. the u.s. government transferring six prisoners in the mittle of the night. a lot of people ask why. why now? why does the u.s. do this? any idea? >> well, a lot of these guys there's no evidence against them. you can't take them to court. military courts will not work. one of these guys is going to end up back in the battlefield. >> that brings up the concern that was voiced this morning. mike rodgers says you risk too much.
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that they will reengage in terrorism and that has happened. rur one of the advantages is we have an idea who these guys are. most could become more radicalized because they are ticked off now. but we know who they are. we know where they're going. we can track them. if they do slip out, that could become a trigger for us to looking at picking them up again and just doing international cop work. sometimes that might help them. it's frustrating because the folks that hunt these people down have to shake their heads
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why. >> the united states is betting on the count troy keep a detailed eye on these people and the u.s. pays money and resources to do that. how big of a risk is that that you lose them? >> i think they will be out within a year for certain. there's no way to monitor these people. some of these guys may just disabeer and go back to their villa villages. our military we are learning every day this can be a 100 years war and we will get better and win at the end of the day. >> if this is a government not
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capable of keeping track of these guys then why not somewhere else? >> well, we could put diplomatic pressure on them. so this is an easy play to put diplomatic pressure on them. other than that, no good reason. >> appreciate it. good to be with you both today. thanks. >> the royal couple has landed. they will arrive any moment. we will take you there live when they do. people with type 2 diabetes
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last week after a series of discrepancies and follow up by the washington post. the magazine retracted part of its story. but to many, that apology from roling stone appeared to blame the victim. now rolling stone says it is responsible for the mistakes. we have been tracking the story. we are live from charlottes vil, virginia. >> they did. and as you mentioned, the first apology, the one that we heard on friday put a lot of the blame on jackie. the first statement said in the face of new fgs, we have come to the conclusion that our crust in jackie was misplaced. we were trying to be sensitive
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>> your take on campus, what they are saying? >> absolutely. what you just said is what we have been hearing from a lot of people and a lot of groups. not just the womens groups but also from regular students they sid look, we want the focus to remain on other victims of sexual assault. >> thank you for the reporting. we appreciate it. protesters continue to take to the streets. i make a lot of purchases for my business.
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they are scheduled to arrive any moment at the carlisle hotel right there in manhattan. let me go straight to max, our royal royals correspondent. >> i think it might be a motorcade. there are a lot of crowds here that keep getting pushed back by the police. it's absolutely bitterly cold and people are slowly freezing, desperate for their moment for the car to come in. they will be staying here at the carlisle. the hotel staff have been standing out there longer than us. they do not have coats or anything. but today really is just about the arrival. they will go out to a private
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dinner with some very wealthy brits here in new york and they will have a discussion about how to raise money for various charities that the couple are involved with then storm it really starts. >> and i got -- personally being someone who resides in the great burro of brooklyn, i got excited to hear that the royals will be going to a nets game tomorrow? it's really a consistent theme keeps coming up. william is involved in conservation so they are linking up his charity with the nba. all of this talk about celebrities and people buying up tickets around the court side as well. i spoke to some people they have
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been absolutely bombarded by quest so i think it is a frenzy but we do hope they arrive soon before everyone freezes. >> we hope they arrive before you freeze, max. i wonder, this is their first joint tour of new york city together as a married couple and i'm wondering, are they going to partake in any new york city traditions. i know they do have a $100,000 a night fundraiser. >> that's right. there is a fundraiser for some university where they met and fell in love. 20% of the students are actually american. one block away, we're getting close, poppy. each seat is $10,000 that money
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goes towards university. all the seats have been sold out. the dutchess will be wearing her rocks. the screams follow down the street and gives us a sense of where they are coming from. police cars are just around the corner. their flight was actually delayed. >> and max, as we -- >> as we wait for them to arrive, what else are they going to be doing in new york? >> they are going to be hillary clinton because she is involved in the conservation trying to
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push the krouts back here. we will try to work out which car they are actually in. our viewers are watching that so they can see them about to come out of the motorcade. >> i was told that the dutchess is wearing a specialist pregnancy designer coat. lots of interest in what she wears as ever. crowds across the road. police have pretty much lost control but it's a calm crowd. >> and we're seeing them now. >> we're seeing them now walking in but you know who we're not seeing is their son. so traveling without prince george?
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>> it is a very intense series of events over two days. they decided it was not appropriate to bring him. they want to get back quickly as well. partly explains why they are only here for two days. bam said he has had such fascinating visits to london. he wanted to repay the compliment. so she is very interested in the youth in trying to help the issues going see lots of
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different elements in what they're interested in. a huge opportunity for the british government to try to get lots of powerful americans in a room and meet the duke and dutchess and sell their location as well. one of the most powerful couples in the world right now. >> no dwe about that, max, as we continue to talk about this visit, the first visit of the royals to the -- to new york together as a married couple, let's show our viewers them just arriving here to frenzy of people, fans awaiting them outside of the carlisle hotel. the reason they are staying there, it has a lot of history, a lot of mean iing. >> it does. william does not often talk about his mother, but constantly you see these references to her.
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this is where she always came. she always came here without prince charles and this is where he chose to come as well. they also are used to high profile guests coming here as well. my experience in new york is it does often go back to diana. they do see kate following in her footsteps. so i think that is a large part of the story here. kate and william are fascinated and want to meet as many people as possible. when you get crowds like this it's very difficult to go in and start meeting lots of people. >> i know you're cold, but i am a bit envieous of your assignment getting to be all
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new york police department, this officer comes from a family that has long served the city. his father is a retired new york city firefighter. his father an officer with the nypd. >> he's the model of what we want a police officer to be. >> he is 29 his mother, now retired worked as an assistant administrator of a nursing home. he is single according to the police union and doesn't have any children. >> he's a mature, mature police officer who's motivated literally by serving community. he literally, literally is an eagle scout. >> reporter: pantaleo joined the nypd in 2006 as a beat cop and in 2011, he moved on to the street narcotics enforcement unit. a year later, he joined the anti-crime unit dealing with serious crimes like rape, murder, and guns on the street. >> he is a good man. more importantly, for us here
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today, he's a professional police officer. >> reporter: the same police official told cnn pantaleo had over 300 arrests with very few complaints, adding that he's not a hot head but he has been at the center of racially motivated cases before. three men have filed lawsuits against him alleging unawful racially motivated arrests. one case, march 2012, two black men say they were forced out of their vehicle, handcuffs and strip searched on the public street. the lawsuit alleges they were forced to pull their pants and underwear down, squat and cough. later at the police station, the men were subjected to a second humiliating strip search and forced to lift their genitals. the charges against them were eventually thrown out. they settled with the city earlier this year for $30,000. in the second case, a man accused officer pantaleo of misrepresenting the facts to substantiate charges. the charges against this suspect were also dismissed. the man's lawsuit against officer pantaleo is still
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pending. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> randi, thank you for that. let me bring back in former nypd police officer, now a professor of criminal justice, eugene o'donnell. listening to randi's report and also seeing the video of the encounter between that officer, daniel pantaleo and eric garner, what do you see? was it done correctly? >> well, again, we have to restate over and over again because it's worth saying, that the death of mr. garner is a tragedy. that's unequivocally true and has to be said over and over again. but the reality with police work, especially nypd, an organization i was in, a relatively smaller number of the police officers do a relatively large amount of the work, and with that comes complaints of being not being happy. so you have to contextualize that and so as we're looking at the long view, this is probably not a good week to have a conversation in the long view, but we have to get our equilibrium here and policing is a physical business, viscerally
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maybe unattractive business to watch on video, but the police are doing this in our name. sometimes they do get complained about so you want to look at holistically, whether this officer did anything that's egregious. a lot of arrests. you could probably take dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers who don't make 300 arrests. >> why are you -- can you clarify that for us why you make the point a small number of officers do the majority of arrests and leads to more complaints? i mean, why is that? >> because it's the reality and that's whey we're having ice conversation about cameras. >> why is it the reality? >> police departments hire different people for different reasons. some people come in because they're idealistic and want to do the job and they're there for the right reasons and they're more hard charging. some people come in because it's the job and that's just the reality. and sometimes with police work, the people who see it as a job have no problems. the people that see it as a vocation, something, a higher calling, they do have problems. again, i'm not saying that's the
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case here. the police department has it do a much better job at monitoring officers. they're certainly -- nobody's denying there are officers out there in uniform that shouldn't be out there. they have to better. the department needs to do it. they need to do it proactively, they need to preempt people who shouldn't be on the street. >> eugene, this officer testified in front of the grand jury, his attorney said he did not intend to kill. he did not intend to inflict harm. that he was just trying to bring eric garner down. but this tactic did not work. and it's a tactic that he says he learned at the police academy. should this tactic even if it is a wrestling move, as he called it, what should happen so that someone else doesn't die? >> again, it's a really good time for americans to have the conversation, what do you want the police to do and how do you want them to do it? it's a physical job. in this case, the indictment here is there never should have been an arrest. that was the highest levels of people in the government that decided to put the -- the commissioner of police in new
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york city to his great credit decided the cops have to retrained and if you heard him carefully, he said cops are on their own, they don't have a lot of hands-on training. three days is a meager but costly investment. hopefully we can get police officers the time and training that they want. they want the training. they want to be competent. they want to do the job better. >> vieugene o'donnell, thank yo for your time. we appreciate it. coming up, we fast forward. we look ahead o the questions you're going to see this week. we've seen protesters, die-ins across the country. after the decisions in the michael brown and eric garner cases. could they escalate this week? we'll discuss. also, will more athletes use their fame and voices to add to the protest? we saw it play out this morning in the mnfl. and a huge article in the "rolling stone" about rape.
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